Laughing so hard. Never realized that guy has a gun out for no reason and is just pointing it at another soldier. That extra totally wanted to look badass in his scene and no one stopped him lolol
"You don't want to die a virgin, do you?" "I've used this line several times but without an impending alien invasion it's just straight up threatening..." I laughed out loud at this point, thanks :-)
Then the alien stayed unconscious for what had to be a couple of hours at least. Then again the Imperial Storm Troopers body armor is apparently useless.
The bio suit is just a giant dead animal they found on another planet, they clone it & use it as an exoskeleton. It is not designed to survive a crash. Source: The War In The Desert.
@@davidhonez8859 point taken but the suit should provide some protection. Either way the punch knocks it out for hours. Then it wakes up and is some kind of super being.
They forgot to add, when the military guy thinks Russel Case is crazy, be cause he said he was abducted by aliens and wanted payback, while in a meeting to plan how they are going to fight aliens...lol
To me one the existence of aliens doesn't necessarily prove he was indeed abducted. Seeing how they attack from the air with lasers leveling entire cities I can't really picture the aliens going one by one probing humans and stuff. More so, the movie never showed any sign of the aliens actually performing experiments in humans, their spaceships don't look like the usual "abducting cows via tractor beam" thingies and there's raally no any other reference of humans being abducted. I've always thought he was traumatized by the war or some stuff. But I accept that from the point of view of the characters they have no real reasons to laugh.
"Yes, bow down to your American saviors, rest of the world". As a Brit I must confess that I do find those RAF types in that scene hilarious. "About bloody time!"
One small one that always annoyed me - when Randy Quaid's character volunteers to fly in the attack, he says he wants payback for being abducted by aliens. Everybody looks at him as though he's talking crazy, or maybe remembering a hallucination - even though they all have solid proof that there are, in fact, aliens. He's not wearing a tin foil cap - they're all gearing up to fight the aliens. They've all seen them. The guy's story should sound 100 percent plausible at this point.
Just because there's proof aliens exist doesn't mean there's proof they've abducted anyone. It's just a bit more likely. He also seems to be the only person the aliens ever abducted, so while it's a bit more plausible, that doesn't mean they're just gonna believe him outright.
@@Elvisbackpack It's more than "just a bit" more likely. True, their existence in the sky isn't proof that they've abducted anybody - but any story about alien abduction should cease to sound crazy once the fleet of massive alien space ships appears in front of everybody's eyes, all over the world.
Kind off? I've never thought he was actually abducted, just imagining things. I don't know, seeing how the aliens attack from the air using lasers and stuff it never occurred to me that they were really interested in our anatomy so why would they abduct people?
One interesting thought: how do we know that these aliens are one and the same who abducted him? If there's one alien species out there, there will be more - though likely these bastards slaughtered at least a few other worlds before coming to Earth.
Missed my favorite one...that even AFTER the aliens showed up..and even AFTER people discover that the Roswell crash was real, these same people STILL look at Russell as if he is a crazy alcoholic any time he suggests that he was abducted by aliens.
To be honest, it kind of makes sense. These aliens are ruthless. It seems very unlikely they would bother to return him to Earth. They'd probably just kill him.
Just the fact that they now know that aliens in general exist and are visiting the planet should be enough to say "Hmmm...maybe SOME aliens..whether it was these or not...could have come here 30 years ago too." Not to mention...sending in a scout unit is a very common tactic in military. So the fact that the last ones were not ruthlessly trying to destroy everything is pretty normal. Scout units don't work very well if they start blowing up the enemy. What is the point of HAVING a scout unit if they are going to do that? It would be a losing strategy to send a small, underpowered unit to attack all by itself.
The existence of aliens doesn't necessarily mean that they've been abducting people and by the looks of it, they don't seem to be the type to do that. They attack from air with lasers and stuff, leveling entire cities. They don't seem worried about the biological and anatomical nuances of our bodies, they just shoot us from the air. Also their ships don't look like the kind of "flying saucers" abducted people described. The movie doesn't show any other reference of people being abducted either, nor it shows or hints to aliens blending in somehow. It only shows ships flying and shooting so we must assume that's all what aliens do. We don't really know, maybe the writers wanted us to believe he was abducted, in which case they did a terrible job convincing us. Anyway, I agree from the point of view of the characters, believing him would be the logical thing to do.
I literally just paused the video right after that so I could come find this comment while saying “please let it be there...”. You’re awesome Edit Wtf?! They added a sin there? For what? Using that actor?
R as in, Robert Loggia O as in, oh my god it's Robert Loggia B as in, By god it's Robert Loggia E as in, Everyone loves Robert Loggia R as in, Robert Loggia T as in, Tim look over there, it's Robert Loggia and so on
There's another flaw in this movie, as well. As we see, no missiles can get past the shields, but when Jeff's character David goes to stick a coke can on the ship before the Hero of Canton shoots it off; what happens? He puts the can on the ship with no problems. Slow-moving objects can get through, as evidenced by that scene. So rather than firing a nuke at it, just parachute one down on top of the ship. It'll descend nice and slowly, and should land onto the ship, past their shields without a problem. Then detonate it.
***** Who says it won't make a dent on the hull? Where'd you get that from?Considering crashing into the canyon disabled the alien fighter that was chasing Will Smith; the material the ships are made from isn't invulnerable. They rely on the shields. Without the shields, or getting something powerful enough like a nuke through the shields, they're vulnerable.
KrK007 Actually you see him doing something before the shields go down and Adam Baldwin fires the second shot.If that's not enough, though: look at Will Smith after he brings the fighter down at the Grand Canyon. He walks right up to it and opens the hatch.
***** Maybe Ceke cans are not threatening except to Pepsi co ALSO though futile forr us humans the Three main alien ships were by cities near water NO Air Craft Carrier launch ? NO Submarine Strike ? AND NO ground placement shooting up? Yea Yea the shelds thing BUT at least it would look more convincing counter attack The original 1953 War of The Worlds was on a fixed budget but at least they made the attacks on both sides a HELL of a lot more convincing And not a sin .............A stealth Plane is used to fire the Nuke Possibly alien radar would not pick it up?
Here's a few more sins: when Will Smith punches the alien, he somehow knows where its jaw is to knock it out even though it had a suit on and he doesn't know anything about their anatomy. Also, flying the little ship they had from Roswell is a cool plot point, but those ships don't land in the mother ship in space, they come from the giant ones already on Earth. ALSO that ship was about 50 years old, so even if they did figure out how to fly it, the aliens would have immediately noticed because its not a current model.
Even then, they probably have names or ID numbers on their ships. I imagine the controller would have noticed that fighter, 50 years missing, just coming in and landing like nothing weird had happened.
All what you said is true but there are a few details that I don't agree upon. First, even if you know where the jaw is, that doesn't automatically mean you can get somebody unconscious. I know I know, boxers do it all the time but it's not guaranteed, sometimes they got knocked out but most times they don't. Second, the "new vs old" spaceships. I don't expect the aliens to be changing the design of their ships every other year, just look our own planes, most current airplanes were designed like 30 years ago. When you reach a plateau in your technological evolution there's no need to change things just because. However, just like we have IDs and transponders in our planes, the aliens for sure have something similar and yeah, a ship that was lost 50 years ago for sure would be automatically flagged by their systems.
@@davidlewis5189 i agree, at some point, technology takes longer to progress or rather technology plateaus because there's no more threats for technological advancements. so, the 50 year old ship still looked like the ones before, but possibly less updates, lol, k, thanks for the post!
hey the americans saved europe in ww2 you know when they joined after pearl harbour on december 7 1941.... from september 1939 up until that time, well nothing happened in europe, they were defenseless
@@anitahand5699 Bullcrap. It was the Russians who destroyed Germany. They broke the Wehrmacht, and the British destroyed the luftwaffe. America only contributed mayorly against Japan.
To me the real sin there was "Why were you sitting around waiting for America to organize a counter-attack? Get off your arses and do it yourself if that's what you wanted to do!"
In fact if the congress and the white house were blown away would we even notice? Wouldn't it be business as usual? Also, all of the What's Wong videos are so funny. I haven't found one I haven't liked. Where were these videos when I went to most of the movies in the first place?!
I know, aliens/villains never go for the one place we'd probably go "...OH." and get out of their way. In fact that would be a funny ending for a movie... our military clears a path for the aliens, they destroy Congress, we destroy the aliens and the ending is a newer, brighter world
This whole "hacking the giant alien ships with a laptop" is explained in the deleted scene - our computer technology is reverse engineered from that ship that crashed in Rosewell so basically aliens use the same computers as we do :)
@jemimallah It wouldnt need to be the same language. Any higher level coding language is converted down by our computers to binary anyway, which is assuredly what the alien space craft uses if reverse engineered.
the Roswell crash was in the late 1940s. ever see a computer from that time? vaccuum tubes. punch cards. Not exactly the kind of tech youd expect to be on a space ship.
Let's also not forget the opening scene where the sound of the ship caused vibrations that eroded the footprints left on the moon. Got to love sound in space.
You forgot this one sin, Will Smith is advertised as the biggest star of this movie, but is barely on screen compared to Jeff Goldblum and Bill Pullman.
spongebobfan190 Well he isn't on much until the July 3 part. I agree he was a bit over-advertised as Goldblum and Pullman already were prominently on screen since the beginning.
Ysmanol Batista While I agree that the American nationalism in this movie is stupid, it should be noted that America controls almost half of the world's total air force.
Lachlan Moon i don't think it's done intentionally. Sometimes it is but most of it just happens to be an american "saving" the world. Because, it's an american movie so usually they'll get american actors.
You really need to do this one again. There's so many sins in this movie that have been missed due to the time constraint you arbitrarily put on your videos in your early days.
I think CinemaSins should take a second look at Independence Day. It is without doubt one of the highlights of the 90s - still a sentimental favorite for me - but even I think 6 minutes is too short for tallying up the actual sins the film is guilty of.
I loved this movie at the time. I even watched it twice in the theaters, which for me is a lot (never did that with any other film). And yeah, this review is kind of lame, they weren't very good back then. He didn't have his comedic timing and insights down yet. The more recent ones are better. This one needs a remake. It's a sin for them not to even include Randy Quad in this video.
You forgot this one: The shot of the Empire State Building being blown up shows us a full-on view of it while looking down the middle of a city street. New York City streets aren't laid out like that; no roads lead to a frontal view of the Empire State Building and you can't see it looking down the middle of any street.
Not that I want to give any credit to the script in a Roland Emmerich movie but, it actually kind of makes sense that the aliens attack the cities first before military bases. First I think they wanted to kill as many people as they could before they all had the chance to evacuate major cities. And second the aliens don't regard the human military forces as a threat of them so why bother attack in the military first
+James Ryon The destruction of the white house is still stupid under your aspect - which I do agree with - because destroying vital infrastructure like power plants, water purification etc. would be more effective in decimating the natives. Destroying earth's national symbols just for fun or showing off works for the mischievous martians in "Mars Attack", but toying around with the inhabitants seems somehow "unprofessional" for a whole race of aliens who depend on the resources of a chosen target.
+Radonatos I agree with you but they probably did not even need to destroy the vital structures because their technology is far superior to ours they have space lasers and we have bullets. They probably see us as very primitive beings. We don't even have space craft which can travel lightyears yet.
Ashan Bhatoa True, but it seems their superiority is limited on the surface - they've lost a number of the small ships, and since they have dire resources (after all, that's what they camme for), it would be safer to depopulate a planet from an invulnerable mothership first and in a methodic way. They may even have meetings with flipcharts and alien-excel presentations to evaluate the most cost-effective conquering strategy ;)
The 15-mile wide ship stops directly over the underground base they are in at the end. It's about to shoot, but get destroyed. Presumably that ship then falls to the ground. We see its wreckage on the ground at a distance later. So how exactly did the people on the base survive a mountain-sized ship falling on top of them? And then, how did they get out from under that mountain of flaming wreckage? For some reason, that point has always bugged me.
yard if you watch the scene yes it is, it centers itself right over the base, prepares its weapon, and the lights at the base even turn out from the power of the weapon, but then Russ destroys it. And the wreck is shown way off I. The distance
its actually physics . . . specifically think about when you chuck a quarter into one of those water tanks . . . given the size fo the craft, and it being a saucer, the shear force of the air underneath it would shunt it in a direction when it lost power, thereby making it crash away from where it was when it lost power . . . same concept is actually used to land a helicopter using autorotation during a power loss
There was a scene that was deleted, that explains that all modern computer technology came from the crashed ship in Roswell. Which is why he can connect to it and infect it with a virus.
+WILLIAM PRICE Probably time and budget constraints. If you're interested in more you should check out the ID4 novel series published back in the 1990's. They go on to explain that the Roswell incident was indeed an alien crash landing from a scouting party collecting information about our societies, for the pre-invasion attacks in the movies as well.
Jason Martin I can't tell whether you're being intentionally obtuse by omitting the fact that I ALSO said "*TIME* _AND_ budget Constraints" or if you really are 'special'. Either way high five there, champ. XD
Re: Sin 61. Even though the attacks on the cities have been devastating, you'll always need ground troops to go in and clear up the remainder. Even if the attacks continued and killed 95% of the human race, that still leaves a few hundred million people left. They'll scatter: forests, jungles, mountains, deserts, tundra, sewers and subways beneath cities... they'll scatter to the point where the alien ships can't use their beams to eliminate them any more. Air power alone can't wipe us out.Especially considering the aliens have come here to live (they move from planet to planet, consuming every natural resource before they move on - President Whitmore). They'll need to secure landing sites and establish their own habitations, which means a ground invasion.
Same reason Bin Laden eluded us for so long. Cant just bomb the planet into smithereens if youre going to live on it,so you have to physically look for survivors. Doesnt take a genius to figure THAT out.
Fair point if they are after utter annihilation but their motives are kinda implied to just be steal all our shit. With their tech would they even need to be on the ground? What is a starved band of half dead poorly armed survivors even going to do? It kinda seems like literally the only vulnerable thing they have in their fleet is their week ass alien bodies yet they decide to use said bodies to go down and fight? Just fly around in your little attackers and keep killing us or set up a bit of defense at every mining site if you need to come down. Also after wiping out civilisation I kinda doubt any human would even fight we'd just hide in caves not daring to risk our lives in futile attacks. It just seems like a ground war is sorta the only way they could sustain any kind of major casualties. Also no drones or expendible ground forces that arent themselves? I think it is sin worthy
Your thinking is hopelessly outdated; you're acting like this is a vietnam situation or something. Any species with interstellar travel capability would have the capacity to sterilize a planet just by accelerating sufficient mass into intersection with the planet's orbit. And there would be no question of this interfering with the aliens' extraction operations, because the aliens would already have had to have adapted to planetary environments that are extreme (to them). And the idea of these aliens using conquered species as slaves is mind-bogglingly stupid, regardless of anything written in any novelization. The movie is clear that these aliens do not come here to live; they come, extract material resources, and move on, and the infrastructure of using indigenous species on their home planets, let alone carrying them off to be slaves elsewhere, is too expensive to be cost-effective. Heck, our own primitive species is only about a generation away from a technological singularity which will result in our human workforce being almost entirely replaced by AI. That's what conquering aliens would use as a workforce, robots, not indigenous slaves they'd have to adapt to in order to control them.
Has anyone else mentioned the fact that after they blew up the ship they still managed to crash near area 51 so that everyone could just drive to pick them up? did the earth stop rotating when they went into space?
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Cf No Man's Sky and how they removed the planets rotating and rotating around their solar system's star, because people got confused by it. :D
@@davidlewis5189 Yeah, but by the amount of time they are off-earth they should have needed a boat to cross the Atlantic. Earth rotates rather pretty quick on its horizontal axis, one full revolution every single day.
Hmm once you're in space is relatively easy (realitvely I said!) to choose where to land. Assuming the mother ship was orbiting Earth and seeing how that little ship had enough power to leave low orbit in one go without doing burns or any major orbital maneuver (it just went up) it's easy to assume the ship had enough fuel and power to do any necessary burn, maneuver, correction, multiple attempts, etc etc to leave orbit and enter the atmosphere at any plane, angle and position from Earth's surface. Hiller is a pilot and also studying to become and astronaut so he knows how to do the calculations, more or less.
Consider this: the ISS orbits Earth at a rate of one revolution every 90 minutes, assuming a similar speed and the correct latitude they return to the landing point in like 45 minutes tops.
Two glaring ones you missed: 1) In End-of-the-Earth traffic, it's possible to drive from downtown NYC to DC in about 45 minutes, all while driving painfully slow in the left lane. 2) An alien culture capable of traveling between stars and destroying entire cities with a single shot needs to hijack native satellites in order to run a primitive countdown sequence, rather than simply synchronizing their watches.
Not really. Unless by "positioning your pieces" you mean setting out the pieces in their starting configuration, any attacking chess army has to make a series of developmental moves, which cannot go on without the other side making an equal number of moves, which as jeremy notes the humans weren't doing. And if you do mean "setting the pieces out in their starting configuration" then there are missing steps between that and attack.
And without the humans making moves to counter, like he said. Basically it's like playing chess with me. I'll be sitting there looking at the board dumbfounded and there goes the King. Long live the King!
@@scottmatheson3346 Given that it's an analogy in the first place, it makes sense that they would be talking about configuring your pieces through a series of phases of attacks and counterattacks to the point where you feel confident enough that, 5 moves down the line, any counterattacks your opponent can proffer will be inconsequential to your strategy. If the opponent is strong enough and has a viable enough position before they begin trading pieces, it may as well be analogous to the aliens placing ships all around the world and striking without resistance. Sure, in the human case we sat around and did nothing, but in the typical scenario in which aliens might attack a world, delaying your attack until the right moment when the enemy has a potentially viable counter-force(and counter-maneuvers before any fighting begins) makes sense. A lot of annoying bits about this anyway. Yes, maintenance closets could be structurally reinforced. When you fire a bullet, you're aiming away for a potential ricochet anyway, and there's a lot of vertical space in a large room. No, taking 6 hours to logistically position each ship in a critical position is not unreasonable, as is maneuvering a finite amount of ships to all major cities after the first shot. Containment would probably be much, much more concerned with viral/bacterial contagion from a foreign species. Ugh. Oh well, it's made for fun viewing =)
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@@monsterhanna6691 It was totally clean for you before? With all that Goop™ around? ;-)
+MWFilms1 I want an update with CinemaSins's new found glory! I'm sure this movie deserves more than 66 sins... There is so much to be added. How does a biplane keep up with F16s? How does it fly UP? WTF?
The Doctor. simply The Doctor. Interesting....here's my counterargument: 1) they sin movies because they have 30+ years. 2) they wear that badge because that's the motherfuckin point
@@JustinDeFouw ??? Russell was flying a jet. Did you fall asleep from boredom? Myself, I was wondering how his plane approached the alien weapon at a walking pace!
Hey, how did they place the coke can on the alien aircraft when the shields were up? They couldn't shoot through the shield with a gun. I guess coke is accepted everywhere.
5:20- There's another discrepancy around this time in the film, but it's not something that most people would be aware of: when Will Smith's character is being shown the interface for the bomb he comments something to the effect of, "it's like the one they have on the Stealths," obviously referring to either the F-117 Nighthawk or the B-2 Spirit. The problem is he's in the Marines, and the B-2 belongs to the Air Force, as did the F-117, before it was mothballed. So, he wouldn't be familiar with either one, even though he comes across as though he is.
Def Albino I'm aware of that. I was talking about him referring to "the stealths," and how he would have any idea how they looked like on the inside.
F117s were referred to as "stealth," also. Because it was a stealth aircraft, y'know? Will Smith says, "It's like the AMRAAM launch pad for the stealth," so obviously he was not referring to the B2, which does not launch air-to-air missiles.
One thing they didn't mention, the attack scene on El Toro... all those space fighters shooting lasers at things on the ground, with trucks and all kinds of things blowing up... except not one hit on any of the fighter jets *L*
Not only that, she would've died like 30 seconds ago, and the dog would've died even earlier, because it obviously shows her kicking the door down and the big fireball is like 15 feet away from her.
Dallin Webb maintenance rooms are relatively common portals to other dimensions, in this case the third. unlike the dog, the fire is not a living conscious being and could not even influence the dog's shadow within this 3rd dimension, let alone enter this portal. as you could obviously see with the car, the molecules will just vanish into nothing.
There should of been a 67th sin. When Smith knocks a fucking alien out with one punch. A much bigger, more powerful looking alien at that. I have to call bullshit on that. =/
I agree. I was waiting for that part in the video, but he didnt count it for some reason. WTF. But yeah, that part always bothered me even as a kid when it first came out. It was one of my favorite movies back then, but I could never understand how Will Smiths punch could knock the alien out, and while his protective armor was on too! He stayed knockd out for all that time while dragging him till they got picked up later in the desert
Not too hard to explain: the alien had crashed and was already injured, the human just finished the task of knocking it down. And the alien is not exactly using a protective armor, but a symbiotic thing, who could also be in shock for the crash landing; and it's not too hard, as demonstrated later when the scientists just cut through it with surgeon tools. And he did not awake earlier, cause the human was kicking him from time to time while dragging him through the desert. So, we have a bulky person, injured, with a bulky and heavy suit hanging useless around his whole body trying to get out of a crashed vehicle, suddenly facing a smaller person, but healthy, complete, trained in combat and willing to kill him. It's a miracle he would not end dead. In fact many of us believed it was dead until they realized he was actually alive. Imagine a car accident of the same magnitude of that ship crash. Couldn't an average man knock out the driver, despite their sizes, after that?
For the record, it's not an alien "body" they were dissecting, it was a kind of biological armor so the body is inside; I'm sure they even explain it in the movie.
I think the size of the armor is what confused people. I haven't watched this in years but the size of the alien to the armor was ridiculous right? I remember average sized aliens wearing big ass shells? Or am i wrong
The sequel is rubbish. I was embarrassed for the actors that they were involved in such a diarrhoea movie, seriously a shit film. Doesn't deserve to be a sequel the original movie.
Was watching the same movie and instantly remembered this last part of the cinema sins video so I had to comeback and watch it again just for that Last part.
Cuz its not. Spencer tracy. We werent alive but and i cant for the life of me remember the name of the movie but spencer tracy gave the greatest speach in a courtroom about the meaning of law and order and justice
@Ashlie Wasn't a movie, was a series called Newsroom. But yeah the scene was EPIC!!!! Another speech, from the same writer as Newsroom, but this time in a movie, was the one delivered by Michael Douglas in The American President.
@Ashlie The Jeff Daniels rant is total B.S. because it totally ignores all the great things America has done for mankind - like creating the greatest economy in the world, which has help lift 97% of the world out of poverty, made the quality of life better for the entire planet, and most definitely has made the world a much safer, more peaceful and moral place due to its influence and intervention. If you don't like America, move to a country you think it better. I guarantee you won't move. 🙄
@@cy8685 The US empire doesn't lift people out of poverty, it creates poverty. And ask the people of Libya, Iraq, Syria, Iran, Guatemala, Bolivia, Cuba, Yemen and a hundred other countries about how the US made their life "happier", "more peaceful" and.... LOL.... "moral" :D
+1 sin: "Art Dept." Is clearly labeled on the bottom of the trashcan that David knocks over in the "You're gonna catch a cold," father/son scene when David falls over due to drinking too much.
@@africanchick23 Oken wasn't dead. They mentioned that the aliens communicate via a form of telepathy. Supposing that direct contact intensifies that effect then by holding Dr Oken the alien could project his thoughts with a degree of control into Dr Oken and use his brain to interpret the images. That's not actually very far fetched at all. Dr. Oken's brain certainly can recognize simple concepts like death, peace, war, etc and speak meaning to images. The alien doesn't have to speak English.
I just like that billions of people, aliens positioning their ships over every major city in the world, and Jeff Goldblum and Randy Quaid are the only ones who didn't take a whole day to figure out there was going to be an attack.
Attacking the iconic buildings makes sense on a few levels. But primarily - as it is with human on human wars - destroying iconic structures may be a waste of resources but it does have an immediate demoralizing or blind rage inducing effect on the general populace, allowing you to capitalize on a period of chaos.
You left something out. The CIA is in cahoots with the Aliens. They had been providing the Aliens with intel. That's the only way Area 51 makes sense and why it was hidden. The character Albert Nimziki gives himself away by not exposing it until after they have attacked. I can't believe they put it right in our face and we still can't see it.
Depends actually. With human bombs that explode upward on impact yes. But these were particle weapons and the explosion is more fire than force pushing down and outwards. There wouldn't be as much dust kick up.
Sin 67: The computer they’re using never once asks if they want to update their Adobe software. Totally unrealistic.
This is true. Damn Adobe.
And the movie took place in 1996 so how do they operate a laptops internet when wifi wasn't readily avaibable back then?
Really
Sin 68: Whitmore says Independence Day in his speech at Area 51. A Roll Credits moment.
@@joemckim1183 Because in the movie they are literally the military?
Also thanks for explaining the joke.
Laughing so hard. Never realized that guy has a gun out for no reason and is just pointing it at another soldier. That extra totally wanted to look badass in his scene and no one stopped him lolol
Those aliens should have installed Norton Antivirus and a firewall on their networks.
aliens are too moroon for make an anti virus for human maked virus and also cause i fucking wanted see those motherfuckers die soo badly
Maybe there are no viruses on the aliens’ planet.
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McAfee is a good one. I think the aliens should look into that
@@amroge8703 McAfee unfortunately expired recently
"You don't want to die a virgin, do you?"
"I've used this line several times but without an impending alien invasion it's just straight up threatening..."
I laughed out loud at this point, thanks :-)
Same. I have tears from laughing.
@@JustKelso1993 It totally changes the context of the statement, haha.
That's two offences.
1. You're threatening rape.
2. You're threatening murder.
🤣
What, no "Roll Credits" in Bill Pullman's speech "Today is our Independance Day!" "Roll Credits!"
Really though
They don't do the roll credits sins until later videos. This one was still in the early years
@@OkieTeacher918 ye
That was the best speech from any movie!!! President Whitmore did a good job
The fact that everyone else doesn’t say, “fuck off yank, you don’t speak for us” is sin-worthy
Oh my God I never realised that about the audio-only scene at the end! XDDD
That bit was enough to make me fall in love with this channel.
Worth the wait honestly
Thank you for commenting so I could stay and hear that 😂😭😂
Add a point for punching out an alien in a bio suit that is designed to withstand a spaceship crash.
who says the outer shell was designed to withstand a crash?
"he didn't knock the alien out, he knocked out his outfit" -patrice o'neal
Then the alien stayed unconscious for what had to be a couple of hours at least. Then again the Imperial Storm Troopers body armor is apparently useless.
The bio suit is just a giant dead animal they found on another planet, they clone it & use it as an exoskeleton. It is not designed to survive a crash. Source: The War In The Desert.
@@davidhonez8859 point taken but the suit should provide some protection. Either way the punch knocks it out for hours. Then it wakes up and is some kind of super being.
They forgot to add, when the military guy thinks Russel Case is crazy, be cause he said he was abducted by aliens and wanted payback, while in a meeting to plan how they are going to fight aliens...lol
Exactly! I was gonna say the same thing!!
To me one the existence of aliens doesn't necessarily prove he was indeed abducted. Seeing how they attack from the air with lasers leveling entire cities I can't really picture the aliens going one by one probing humans and stuff. More so, the movie never showed any sign of the aliens actually performing experiments in humans, their spaceships don't look like the usual "abducting cows via tractor beam" thingies and there's raally no any other reference of humans being abducted. I've always thought he was traumatized by the war or some stuff.
But I accept that from the point of view of the characters they have no real reasons to laugh.
"Let's proceed...now comes the really icky part"
+EC0205 "OOHH"
Pling!
+EC0205 "Ohhh my!"
Literally the first time I had sex.
@@MaCabaret LOL
"Yes, bow down to your American saviors, rest of the world".
As a Brit I must confess that I do find those RAF types in that scene hilarious. "About bloody time!"
Russians listening to Soviet martial hymns were pretty swell too.
I concur. Could they BE any more gayer?
One small one that always annoyed me - when Randy Quaid's character volunteers to fly in the attack, he says he wants payback for being abducted by aliens. Everybody looks at him as though he's talking crazy, or maybe remembering a hallucination - even though they all have solid proof that there are, in fact, aliens. He's not wearing a tin foil cap - they're all gearing up to fight the aliens. They've all seen them. The guy's story should sound 100 percent plausible at this point.
I mean, Randy Quaid's Character still is a drunken pilot. Do you want to risk putting him in the sky?
Just because there's proof aliens exist doesn't mean there's proof they've abducted anyone. It's just a bit more likely. He also seems to be the only person the aliens ever abducted, so while it's a bit more plausible, that doesn't mean they're just gonna believe him outright.
@@Elvisbackpack It's more than "just a bit" more likely. True, their existence in the sky isn't proof that they've abducted anybody - but any story about alien abduction should cease to sound crazy once the fleet of massive alien space ships appears in front of everybody's eyes, all over the world.
Kind off? I've never thought he was actually abducted, just imagining things. I don't know, seeing how the aliens attack from the air using lasers and stuff it never occurred to me that they were really interested in our anatomy so why would they abduct people?
One interesting thought: how do we know that these aliens are one and the same who abducted him? If there's one alien species out there, there will be more - though likely these bastards slaughtered at least a few other worlds before coming to Earth.
I’m a fan if only for the “Man they call Jayne.” Firefly reference!
I am ashamed that I didn't see him when I watched Independence Day
So good. Miss that. Lol
Missed my favorite one...that even AFTER the aliens showed up..and even AFTER people discover that the Roswell crash was real, these same people STILL look at Russell as if he is a crazy alcoholic any time he suggests that he was abducted by aliens.
To be honest, it kind of makes sense. These aliens are ruthless. It seems very unlikely they would bother to return him to Earth. They'd probably just kill him.
Right .the aliens leave half eaten cattle everywhere . I don't think they'd bother stopping to let the guy out of the ship just tuck and roll.
Just the fact that they now know that aliens in general exist and are visiting the planet should be enough to say "Hmmm...maybe SOME aliens..whether it was these or not...could have come here 30 years ago too." Not to mention...sending in a scout unit is a very common tactic in military. So the fact that the last ones were not ruthlessly trying to destroy everything is pretty normal. Scout units don't work very well if they start blowing up the enemy. What is the point of HAVING a scout unit if they are going to do that? It would be a losing strategy to send a small, underpowered unit to attack all by itself.
The existence of aliens doesn't necessarily mean that they've been abducting people and by the looks of it, they don't seem to be the type to do that.
They attack from air with lasers and stuff, leveling entire cities. They don't seem worried about the biological and anatomical nuances of our bodies, they just shoot us from the air.
Also their ships don't look like the kind of "flying saucers" abducted people described. The movie doesn't show any other reference of people being abducted either, nor it shows or hints to aliens blending in somehow. It only shows ships flying and shooting so we must assume that's all what aliens do.
We don't really know, maybe the writers wanted us to believe he was abducted, in which case they did a terrible job convincing us. Anyway, I agree from the point of view of the characters, believing him would be the logical thing to do.
“There’s no shame in hiding.”
“Dude, YOU have never been hiding.”
Honestly, that's the hardest I've ever laughed at CinemaSins. Surprised me.
There's no closet big enough to hold back Harvey Fierstein.
There should be a remake/extended version of this. Sooooo many more sins
There actually is an extended edition for this.
I lost it at "THE HERO OF CANTON, THE MAN THEY CALL JAAAAAAAYNE!!!"
They aim to misbehave.
+The Philly Madmen LOL I'm so glad he made a reference
+The Philly Madmen ME TOOOOOO!!
+The Philly Madmen That's not a sin! They sinned it! How dare they?!
I literally just paused the video right after that so I could come find this comment while saying “please let it be there...”. You’re awesome
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Wtf?! They added a sin there? For what? Using that actor?
R as in, Robert Loggia
O as in, oh my god it's Robert Loggia
B as in, By god it's Robert Loggia
E as in, Everyone loves Robert Loggia
R as in, Robert Loggia
T as in, Tim look over there, it's Robert Loggia
and so on
Oddly enough, this came to my mind when he mentioned him.
+ICantSplel you're thinking of Robert Losier.
TheSmartAntelope That reply is 10 times worse than posting something from Family guy, lol. Embarassing.
ICantSplel That's your opinion. And while I will let you have it, I find it to be stupid and irrelevant.
+TheSmartAntelope after all nice
There's another flaw in this movie, as well. As we see, no missiles can get past the shields, but when Jeff's character David goes to stick a coke can on the ship before the Hero of Canton shoots it off; what happens? He puts the can on the ship with no problems.
Slow-moving objects can get through, as evidenced by that scene. So rather than firing a nuke at it, just parachute one down on top of the ship. It'll descend nice and slowly, and should land onto the ship, past their shields without a problem. Then detonate it.
And it wouldn't even make a dent on the hull. Genius.
I think the shields weren't up yet. You see David doing something with the computer before the shot is fired. Like raising the shields, maybe.
***** Who says it won't make a dent on the hull? Where'd you get that from?Considering crashing into the canyon disabled the alien fighter that was chasing Will Smith; the material the ships are made from isn't invulnerable. They rely on the shields. Without the shields, or getting something powerful enough like a nuke through the shields, they're vulnerable.
KrK007 Actually you see him doing something before the shields go down and Adam Baldwin fires the second shot.If that's not enough, though: look at Will Smith after he brings the fighter down at the Grand Canyon. He walks right up to it and opens the hatch.
***** Maybe Ceke cans are not threatening except to Pepsi co
ALSO
though futile forr us humans the Three main alien ships were by cities near water NO Air Craft Carrier launch ? NO Submarine Strike ? AND NO ground placement shooting up?
Yea Yea the shelds thing BUT at least it would look more convincing counter attack
The original 1953 War of The Worlds was on a fixed budget but at least they made the attacks on both sides a HELL of a lot more convincing
And not a sin .............A stealth Plane is used to fire the Nuke Possibly alien radar would not pick it up?
I love this movie.
After 23 years its still THE prime example of a summer blockbuster.
A true classic.
28 years in -- still true!
Here's a few more sins: when Will Smith punches the alien, he somehow knows where its jaw is to knock it out even though it had a suit on and he doesn't know anything about their anatomy. Also, flying the little ship they had from Roswell is a cool plot point, but those ships don't land in the mother ship in space, they come from the giant ones already on Earth. ALSO that ship was about 50 years old, so even if they did figure out how to fly it, the aliens would have immediately noticed because its not a current model.
Even then, they probably have names or ID numbers on their ships. I imagine the controller would have noticed that fighter, 50 years missing, just coming in and landing like nothing weird had happened.
***** Exactly. It would be like if we had lost a space shuttle 50 years ago, and then it landed in Florida tomorrow. I think someone would notice.
Apparently the aliens did not change their fighter design in 50 years..
All what you said is true but there are a few details that I don't agree upon.
First, even if you know where the jaw is, that doesn't automatically mean you can get somebody unconscious. I know I know, boxers do it all the time but it's not guaranteed, sometimes they got knocked out but most times they don't.
Second, the "new vs old" spaceships. I don't expect the aliens to be changing the design of their ships every other year, just look our own planes, most current airplanes were designed like 30 years ago. When you reach a plateau in your technological evolution there's no need to change things just because. However, just like we have IDs and transponders in our planes, the aliens for sure have something similar and yeah, a ship that was lost 50 years ago for sure would be automatically flagged by their systems.
@@davidlewis5189 i agree, at some point, technology takes longer to progress or rather technology plateaus because there's no more threats for technological advancements. so, the 50 year old ship still looked like the ones before, but possibly less updates, lol, k, thanks for the post!
they obviously used usb to hook up the laptop to the alien spaceship. why do you think it's called universal serial bus?
'yes, bow down to your american saviours, rest of the world' = the premise of every single super hero film ever.
hey the americans saved europe in ww2 you know when they joined after pearl harbour on december 7 1941.... from september 1939 up until that time, well nothing happened in europe, they were defenseless
@@anitahand5699 Bullcrap. It was the Russians who destroyed Germany. They broke the Wehrmacht, and the British destroyed the luftwaffe. America only contributed mayorly against Japan.
To me the real sin there was "Why were you sitting around waiting for America to organize a counter-attack? Get off your arses and do it yourself if that's what you wanted to do!"
Shouldn't the aliens killing Congress be a sin REMOVED?
Definitely
In fact if the congress and the white house were blown away would we even notice? Wouldn't it be business as usual?
Also, all of the What's Wong videos are so funny. I haven't found one I haven't liked. Where were these videos when I went to most of the movies in the first place?!
I know, aliens/villains never go for the one place we'd probably go "...OH." and get out of their way. In fact that would be a funny ending for a movie... our military clears a path for the aliens, they destroy Congress, we destroy the aliens and the ending is a newer, brighter world
I'd remove 20 right there
@@MyoclonicJerkCough I'd have just gone and done the job myself amidst all the confusion
" You don't want to die a virgin do you"
That part cracked me up lol.
That bit was genius.
This whole "hacking the giant alien ships with a laptop" is explained in the deleted scene - our computer technology is reverse engineered from that ship that crashed in Rosewell so basically aliens use the same computers as we do :)
Really? Like tey actually HAD the explanation for hilariously joked about scene and they DELETED it? Like... woah.
Naxster Director thought that people wont make a big deal about it and simply cut it for better pacing. Yeah, pretty nice fail if you ask me.
@jemimallah It wouldnt need to be the same language. Any higher level coding language is converted down by our computers to binary anyway, which is assuredly what the alien space craft uses if reverse engineered.
Obviously they run Windows too...no wonder a virus did them in!
the Roswell crash was in the late 1940s. ever see a computer from that time? vaccuum tubes. punch cards. Not exactly the kind of tech youd expect to be on a space ship.
Let's also not forget the opening scene where the sound of the ship caused vibrations that eroded the footprints left on the moon. Got to love sound in space.
Don't forget how everyone still scoffs at the pilot that said he was abducted by aliens even after the attack 🤣
You forgot this one sin, Will Smith is advertised as the biggest star of this movie, but is barely on screen compared to Jeff Goldblum and Bill Pullman.
spongebobfan190 Ever noticed Will Smith doesn't act in movies he's not the main star of?
spongebobfan190 Well he isn't on much until the July 3 part. I agree he was a bit over-advertised as Goldblum and Pullman already were prominently on screen since the beginning.
Nikki Nv how about the persuit of happyness ( it as spelled that way)
He was the star of that movie. He even had his son cast in it.
+Nikki Nv yup....( looks at After Earth) ...and we all know how well that worked out ...**shudders
"Statue! Of Liberty! White! House! Submarine!" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I lost it when he said "Yes bow down to your American savior so rest of the world!" 😂
Ysmanol Batista Well, it IS true, they all act as such, so pathetic. ZERO sovereignty for them.
Ysmanol Batista While I agree that the American nationalism in this movie is stupid, it should be noted that America controls almost half of the world's total air force.
Why is America the "hero" in so many movies? It reminds me of a TH-cam video called "America, fuck yeah"
Lachlan Moon i don't think it's done intentionally. Sometimes it is but most of it just happens to be an american "saving" the world. Because, it's an american movie so usually they'll get american actors.
because the movies are mostly made in or by america ( american producers, so the targeted customers / viewers are from america?
You really need to do this one again. There's so many sins in this movie that have been missed due to the time constraint you arbitrarily put on your videos in your early days.
Love the Firefly reference for Jane, and the sin for keys above a sun visor! Awesome 😊
sadly no refernce to the the oval office scene
I think CinemaSins should take a second look at Independence Day. It is without doubt one of the highlights of the 90s - still a sentimental favorite for me - but even I think 6 minutes is too short for tallying up the actual sins the film is guilty of.
+Martin Houston yes including Randy Quaid this time - automatic sin doubling
Martin Houston well its a science fiction still..
its much easier to sin such movies
while war movies and well non-fantasy films are easier to produce
I loved this movie at the time. I even watched it twice in the theaters, which for me is a lot (never did that with any other film). And yeah, this review is kind of lame, they weren't very good back then. He didn't have his comedic timing and insights down yet. The more recent ones are better. This one needs a remake. It's a sin for them not to even include Randy Quad in this video.
Jimmy M A drunken Randy Quad with just 24hrs of sobriety at that.
You forgot this one: The shot of the Empire State Building being blown up shows us a full-on view of it while looking down the middle of a city street. New York City streets aren't laid out like that; no roads lead to a frontal view of the Empire State Building and you can't see it looking down the middle of any street.
He should have gotten rid of a sin for the “what in the hell is that smell” scene
Not that I want to give any credit to the script in a Roland Emmerich movie but, it actually kind of makes sense that the aliens attack the cities first before military bases. First I think they wanted to kill as many people as they could before they all had the chance to evacuate major cities. And second the aliens don't regard the human military forces as a threat of them so why bother attack in the military first
+James Ryon plus the aliens attacked on a holiday so most military bases weren't at full capacity.
+James Ryon
The destruction of the white house is still stupid under your aspect - which I do agree with - because destroying vital infrastructure like power plants, water purification etc. would be more effective in decimating the natives.
Destroying earth's national symbols just for fun or showing off works for the mischievous martians in "Mars Attack", but toying around with the inhabitants seems somehow "unprofessional" for a whole race of aliens who depend on the resources of a chosen target.
+Radonatos I agree with you but they probably did not even need to destroy the vital structures because their technology is far superior to ours they have space lasers and we have bullets. They probably see us as very primitive beings. We don't even have space craft which can travel lightyears yet.
Ashan Bhatoa
True, but it seems their superiority is limited on the surface - they've lost a number of the small ships, and since they have dire resources (after all, that's what they camme for), it would be safer to depopulate a planet from an invulnerable mothership first and in a methodic way.
They may even have meetings with flipcharts and alien-excel presentations to evaluate the most cost-effective conquering strategy ;)
+James Ryon Valid point
The 15-mile wide ship stops directly over the underground base they are in at the end. It's about to shoot, but get destroyed. Presumably that ship then falls to the ground. We see its wreckage on the ground at a distance later. So how exactly did the people on the base survive a mountain-sized ship falling on top of them? And then, how did they get out from under that mountain of flaming wreckage?
For some reason, that point has always bugged me.
The ship is not ober the base yet
Yes this always bugged me
yard if you watch the scene yes it is, it centers itself right over the base, prepares its weapon, and the lights at the base even turn out from the power of the weapon, but then Russ destroys it. And the wreck is shown way off I. The distance
its actually physics . . . specifically think about when you chuck a quarter into one of those water tanks . . . given the size fo the craft, and it being a saucer, the shear force of the air underneath it would shunt it in a direction when it lost power, thereby making it crash away from where it was when it lost power . . . same concept is actually used to land a helicopter using autorotation during a power loss
There was a scene that was deleted, that explains that all modern computer technology came from the crashed ship in Roswell. Which is why he can connect to it and infect it with a virus.
+Mason Bowen That's what I figured.
+Mason Bowen I just figured that was something they figured out in the 50 years they had the damn thing
+WILLIAM PRICE Probably time and budget constraints.
If you're interested in more you should check out the ID4 novel series published back in the 1990's. They go on to explain that the Roswell incident was indeed an alien crash landing from a scouting party collecting information about our societies, for the pre-invasion attacks in the movies as well.
+John Doe Budget constraints to DELETE a scene?
Jason Martin I can't tell whether you're being intentionally obtuse by omitting the fact that I ALSO said "*TIME* _AND_ budget Constraints" or if you really are 'special'.
Either way high five there, champ. XD
Bill Pullman’s speech though. Still gives me chills 🥰
Re: Sin 61. Even though the attacks on the cities have been devastating, you'll always need ground troops to go in and clear up the remainder. Even if the attacks continued and killed 95% of the human race, that still leaves a few hundred million people left. They'll scatter: forests, jungles, mountains, deserts, tundra, sewers and subways beneath cities... they'll scatter to the point where the alien ships can't use their beams to eliminate them any more. Air power alone can't wipe us out.Especially considering the aliens have come here to live (they move from planet to planet, consuming every natural resource before they move on - President Whitmore). They'll need to secure landing sites and establish their own habitations, which means a ground invasion.
@Sammy N Thats just gross🤢
Same reason Bin Laden eluded us for so long. Cant just bomb the planet into smithereens if youre going to live on it,so you have to physically look for survivors. Doesnt take a genius to figure THAT out.
Fair point if they are after utter annihilation but their motives are kinda implied to just be steal all our shit. With their tech would they even need to be on the ground? What is a starved band of half dead poorly armed survivors even going to do? It kinda seems like literally the only vulnerable thing they have in their fleet is their week ass alien bodies yet they decide to use said bodies to go down and fight? Just fly around in your little attackers and keep killing us or set up a bit of defense at every mining site if you need to come down.
Also after wiping out civilisation I kinda doubt any human would even fight we'd just hide in caves not daring to risk our lives in futile attacks. It just seems like a ground war is sorta the only way they could sustain any kind of major casualties. Also no drones or expendible ground forces that arent themselves? I think it is sin worthy
Your thinking is hopelessly outdated; you're acting like this is a vietnam situation or something. Any species with interstellar travel capability would have the capacity to sterilize a planet just by accelerating sufficient mass into intersection with the planet's orbit. And there would be no question of this interfering with the aliens' extraction operations, because the aliens would already have had to have adapted to planetary environments that are extreme (to them). And the idea of these aliens using conquered species as slaves is mind-bogglingly stupid, regardless of anything written in any novelization. The movie is clear that these aliens do not come here to live; they come, extract material resources, and move on, and the infrastructure of using indigenous species on their home planets, let alone carrying them off to be slaves elsewhere, is too expensive to be cost-effective. Heck, our own primitive species is only about a generation away from a technological singularity which will result in our human workforce being almost entirely replaced by AI. That's what conquering aliens would use as a workforce, robots, not indigenous slaves they'd have to adapt to in order to control them.
King Steve Great...now they KNOW!
I laughed so hard at that final audio part
Independence Day is one of those movies you don't care about how bad it is, because it's so fricking badass!
You can definitely see the difference of CinemaSins 7 years ago, and today. Nice glow-up
Sin....Will Smith is somehow able to knock an alien by punching it while the alien is wearing its body armor
If he had a club or something in his hand maybe but good point
but his bare hands?? lol
what in the flying fuck are you talking about??
the fact that u stole that shit. the video where he talks about its got 175 000 views
stole what from who?
Sin no. 22 made me laugh out loud, having seen Close Encounters of the Third Kind before along with Moonraker. Yes I'm old, thank you very much.
th-cam.com/video/kZci4tZ-Wfk/w-d-xo.html Thumbs Up! :)
Oh......you are going to have so much FUN sinning Independence Day Resurgence!
That ending audio! XDDDD
Has anyone else mentioned the fact that after they blew up the ship they still managed to crash near area 51 so that everyone could just drive to pick them up? did the earth stop rotating when they went into space?
Cf No Man's Sky and how they removed the planets rotating and rotating around their solar system's star, because people got confused by it. :D
They did have to drive a while to get Hiller and Levinson...
@@davidlewis5189 Yeah, but by the amount of time they are off-earth they should have needed a boat to cross the Atlantic. Earth rotates rather pretty quick on its horizontal axis, one full revolution every single day.
Hmm once you're in space is relatively easy (realitvely I said!) to choose where to land. Assuming the mother ship was orbiting Earth and seeing how that little ship had enough power to leave low orbit in one go without doing burns or any major orbital maneuver (it just went up) it's easy to assume the ship had enough fuel and power to do any necessary burn, maneuver, correction, multiple attempts, etc etc to leave orbit and enter the atmosphere at any plane, angle and position from Earth's surface. Hiller is a pilot and also studying to become and astronaut so he knows how to do the calculations, more or less.
Consider this: the ISS orbits Earth at a rate of one revolution every 90 minutes, assuming a similar speed and the correct latitude they return to the landing point in like 45 minutes tops.
Two glaring ones you missed:
1) In End-of-the-Earth traffic, it's possible to drive from downtown NYC to DC in about 45 minutes, all while driving painfully slow in the left lane.
2) An alien culture capable of traveling between stars and destroying entire cities with a single shot needs to hijack native satellites in order to run a primitive countdown sequence, rather than simply synchronizing their watches.
5:58 "They're ship" THAT'S A HELL OF A SIN.
This guy would be excellent at sinning cinema sins. ding
lol
hejeval777 Oh. My. Gods.
Umm, the chess thing makes sense. David mentioned positioning your pieces and then striking, which is exactly what the aliens did.
Also thanks for ruining the alien cutting scene for me. It's so dirty now.
Not really. Unless by "positioning your pieces" you mean setting out the pieces in their starting configuration, any attacking chess army has to make a series of developmental moves, which cannot go on without the other side making an equal number of moves, which as jeremy notes the humans weren't doing. And if you do mean "setting the pieces out in their starting configuration" then there are missing steps between that and attack.
And without the humans making moves to counter, like he said. Basically it's like playing chess with me. I'll be sitting there looking at the board dumbfounded and there goes the King. Long live the King!
@@scottmatheson3346 Given that it's an analogy in the first place, it makes sense that they would be talking about configuring your pieces through a series of phases of attacks and counterattacks to the point where you feel confident enough that, 5 moves down the line, any counterattacks your opponent can proffer will be inconsequential to your strategy. If the opponent is strong enough and has a viable enough position before they begin trading pieces, it may as well be analogous to the aliens placing ships all around the world and striking without resistance. Sure, in the human case we sat around and did nothing, but in the typical scenario in which aliens might attack a world, delaying your attack until the right moment when the enemy has a potentially viable counter-force(and counter-maneuvers before any fighting begins) makes sense.
A lot of annoying bits about this anyway. Yes, maintenance closets could be structurally reinforced. When you fire a bullet, you're aiming away for a potential ricochet anyway, and there's a lot of vertical space in a large room. No, taking 6 hours to logistically position each ship in a critical position is not unreasonable, as is maneuvering a finite amount of ships to all major cities after the first shot. Containment would probably be much, much more concerned with viral/bacterial contagion from a foreign species. Ugh. Oh well, it's made for fun viewing =)
@@monsterhanna6691 It was totally clean for you before? With all that Goop™ around? ;-)
cant wait for him to review Independence Day Resurgence
***** one can only hope
+MWFilms1 I want an update with CinemaSins's new found glory! I'm sure this movie deserves more than 66 sins... There is so much to be added. How does a biplane keep up with F16s? How does it fly UP? WTF?
+MWFilms1 Don't you people know?
1) There are 2 of them
2) ln their own words, they're not reviewers, they're assholes.
The Doctor. simply The Doctor. Interesting....here's my counterargument:
1) they sin movies because they have 30+ years.
2) they wear that badge because that's the motherfuckin point
@@JustinDeFouw ??? Russell was flying a jet. Did you fall asleep from boredom? Myself, I was wondering how his plane approached the alien weapon at a walking pace!
Hey, how did they place the coke can on the alien aircraft when the shields were up? They couldn't shoot through the shield with a gun. I guess coke is accepted everywhere.
Milo Ngo Then how can the alien attacker ships fly through the shields of the destroyers?
"The man they call Jayne!" Laughed my ass off. Firefly FTW
I know right firefly was the shit... and then Fox fucked up and said canceled.
dontdisthafet42 SCREW FOX!!
I watch CinemaSins to remind me some of my most beloved movies are awful and sometimes completely illogical. And, I am okay with that.
5:20- There's another discrepancy around this time in the film, but it's not something that most people would be aware of: when Will Smith's character is being shown the interface for the bomb he comments something to the effect of, "it's like the one they have on the Stealths," obviously referring to either the F-117 Nighthawk or the B-2 Spirit.
The problem is he's in the Marines, and the B-2 belongs to the Air Force, as did the F-117, before it was mothballed.
So, he wouldn't be familiar with either one, even though he comes across as though he is.
+Ernie Velveeta indeed
It's a b-2...there are no f-117s at all
Def Albino
I'm aware of that. I was talking about him referring to "the stealths," and how he would have any idea how they looked like on the inside.
F117s were referred to as "stealth," also. Because it was a stealth aircraft, y'know? Will Smith says, "It's like the AMRAAM launch pad for the stealth," so obviously he was not referring to the B2, which does not launch air-to-air missiles.
Some Random Bald Guy the F stands for fighter, fyi
Please make one about the new Independence day movie
It would last about 2 hours, not the movie, to count the sins I mean
Free Bee
LoL
I wuld love to watch it, 2 hours of fun and laugh!
Done.
Da Pleyer they made one already
discount mini keanu reeves.... BAWAHAHAHAHA
The real Keanu Reeves would be to expensive..
It's funny cos the guy has way more facial expressions in one scene than keanu
“You don’t wanna die a virgin” moment absolutely killed me 😭😭😭😭
Jaden isnt in this movie. Remove 10 sins
***** Yes.
And it has the man called Jayne.
Another 5 sins removed.
de0509 it would be better to remove all the sins in a way.
***** Jaden didn't exist when the movie was made: automatic 50 sins removal.
Um Yeas he does in will smith balls
...the end of this clip is priceless!
More movies should be made like this one. One of my all-time favs.
Shame on u
This needs to be revisited and given the real Cinema Sins treatment. I guessing 200+ sins in a full length video.
What's sold the sequel to me is David's last line in the trailer
'They always go for the landmarks!'
One thing they didn't mention, the attack scene on El Toro... all those space fighters shooting lasers at things on the ground, with trucks and all kinds of things blowing up... except not one hit on any of the fighter jets *L*
That last part with just audio was gold!
I forget, sometimes, how on point and wonderful this critique is.
Stay at the end of the video for one more sin.
It's the most funniest shit I've heard.
White House Submarine sounds like the name of a shitty indy rock band.
This.
TheoneandonlyCrowMan that's what i told my brother
you guys forgot the dog always survives when it comes to Armageddon
True lets just say German Shepard's are unlucky because usually there always the bad guys
True.
but.. there always exceptions when it comes to movie's. Just in general i'm talking about
but a clap to you sir for knowing you movies. XD
Chello I'm just amazed he was able to watch the entirety of Beverly Hills Chihuahua!
Not only that, she would've died like 30 seconds ago, and the dog would've died even earlier, because it obviously shows her kicking the door down and the big fireball is like 15 feet away from her.
Dallin Webb maintenance rooms are relatively common portals to other dimensions, in this case the third. unlike the dog, the fire is not a living conscious being and could not even influence the dog's shadow within this 3rd dimension, let alone enter this portal. as you could obviously see with the car, the molecules will just vanish into nothing.
The last bit had me in tears...
Nicely done!
I liked the part when David went to his fathers house and his father answered the door while racking a double barreled shotgun, hilarious.
President Bill Pullman should just build a wall around the alien spaceships and make the aliens pay for it.
Make The Universe great again
+Roberto Tully with a small lone of 1 million space credits
I think the aliens should build a firewall
You've made a mistake, the President is really Ted Cruz. Look at his face.
He should have just deleted all his emails :P
Of course Steven knows how to use alien based technology. Isn't he part of MIB?
When I saw the first bit of the movie and saw aliens in the movie I thought it was something they cut from MIB.
There should of been a 67th sin. When Smith knocks a fucking alien out with one punch. A much bigger, more powerful looking alien at that. I have to call bullshit on that. =/
Welcome to Earth!
Kevin Curran
erff!
I agree. I was waiting for that part in the video, but he didnt count it for some reason. WTF. But yeah, that part always bothered me even as a kid when it first came out. It was one of my favorite movies back then, but I could never understand how Will Smiths punch could knock the alien out, and while his protective armor was on too! He stayed knockd out for all that time while dragging him till they got picked up later in the desert
***** I guess they were trying to make him look cool. They failed. lol
Not too hard to explain: the alien had crashed and was already injured, the human just finished the task of knocking it down. And the alien is not exactly using a protective armor, but a symbiotic thing, who could also be in shock for the crash landing; and it's not too hard, as demonstrated later when the scientists just cut through it with surgeon tools. And he did not awake earlier, cause the human was kicking him from time to time while dragging him through the desert.
So, we have a bulky person, injured, with a bulky and heavy suit hanging useless around his whole body trying to get out of a crashed vehicle, suddenly facing a smaller person, but healthy, complete, trained in combat and willing to kill him. It's a miracle he would not end dead.
In fact many of us believed it was dead until they realized he was actually alive.
Imagine a car accident of the same magnitude of that ship crash. Couldn't an average man knock out the driver, despite their sizes, after that?
"The first Lady needs immediate medical attention, but first, lets make out in front of her"
😂😂😂😂😂 this one made my day !!
you forgot to mention the massive coincidence that will smith`s wife and the first lady meet accidently!
"The hero of Canton! The man they call Jayne!"
omg I knew I knew him from somewhere thanks
Thumbs up for the Hero of Canton.
I still love this movie more than twenty years later. And I just realized some inspirations the infinity saga drew from this movie.
the Firefly reference made my day :D
I just rewatched the video for just that joke and I almost died from laughter.
For the record, it's not an alien "body" they were dissecting, it was a kind of biological armor so the body is inside; I'm sure they even explain it in the movie.
I think the size of the armor is what confused people. I haven't watched this in years but the size of the alien to the armor was ridiculous right? I remember average sized aliens wearing big ass shells? Or am i wrong
Oddball Skull
You're not, I remember it that way too.
Seeing the new one tonight, after 20 years, of seeing the first one at least 1000 times, because there was nothing better on.
Ok my movie overall summery for Resurgence after seeing is: "Its a Trap.".......3.75/5
It seriously lost it's heart, and forgot to be somewhat funny......darn new actors trying to get Oscars.
The new movie is literally 60% of the original, 30% of Aliens and 10% film cliches. Can't wait to see how much fun Jeremy was with it
The sequel is rubbish. I was embarrassed for the actors that they were involved in such a diarrhoea movie, seriously a shit film. Doesn't deserve to be a sequel the original movie.
+Trent Vickers the new one was definitely worst. And your literally me, I'm pretty sure I've seen that movie a million times 😂
I burst out laughing at the "Hero of Canton". Okay, it's official, you guys are HILARIOUS and WONDERFUL! I love these.
1:14 - als this must be the worst drawn world map in TV ever. *ding*
I am still laughing about "When I try that line, it comes off more as straight up threatening" 1:25
DAT ENDING IS SO BRILLIANT
Was watching the same movie and instantly remembered this last part of the cinema sins video so I had to comeback and watch it again just for that Last part.
You are Legend. CinemaSins is legend. May my grandchildren know and appreciate your legend.
You didn't even take off 100 sins for the greatest movie speech ever.
Cuz its not. Spencer tracy. We werent alive but and i cant for the life of me remember the name of the movie but spencer tracy gave the greatest speach in a courtroom about the meaning of law and order and justice
@Ashlie Wasn't a movie, was a series called Newsroom. But yeah the scene was EPIC!!!! Another speech, from the same writer as Newsroom, but this time in a movie, was the one delivered by Michael Douglas in The American President.
For me, the greatest movie speech is Charlie Chaplin at the end of The Great Dictator.
@Ashlie The Jeff Daniels rant is total B.S. because it totally ignores all the great things America has done for mankind - like creating the greatest economy in the world, which has help lift 97% of the world out of poverty, made the quality of life better for the entire planet, and most definitely has made the world a much safer, more peaceful and moral place due to its influence and intervention. If you don't like America, move to a country you think it better. I guarantee you won't move. 🙄
@@cy8685 The US empire doesn't lift people out of poverty, it creates poverty. And ask the people of Libya, Iraq, Syria, Iran, Guatemala, Bolivia, Cuba, Yemen and a hundred other countries about how the US made their life "happier", "more peaceful" and.... LOL.... "moral" :D
Man, this really makes me want a Pepsi.
+1 sin: "Art Dept." Is clearly labeled on the bottom of the trashcan that David knocks over in the "You're gonna catch a cold," father/son scene when David falls over due to drinking too much.
missed one. They say the Aliens have no vocal cords, yet squeal like pigs when shot.
how about he was using a dead man's vocal cords? how could his tentacles around the doctor's neck automatically make him able to speak in English?
@@africanchick23 Oken wasn't dead. They mentioned that the aliens communicate via a form of telepathy. Supposing that direct contact intensifies that effect then by holding Dr Oken the alien could project his thoughts with a degree of control into Dr Oken and use his brain to interpret the images. That's not actually very far fetched at all. Dr. Oken's brain certainly can recognize simple concepts like death, peace, war, etc and speak meaning to images. The alien doesn't have to speak English.
loool! the ending with jus the audio...oh my
You don't wanna die a virgin do you
''I've used this line before but it doesn't work so well when there's not an impending alien invasion''
LOL
"it sounds threatening without an impending alien invasion" because he would be implying he is going to kill her after
How is Jayne Cobb a sin? He's the hero of canton
Unless you mean it's a sin that he's in this movie
1:52 Ooh, the McLaughlin Group! I miss that show.
That last bit is hilarious
I just like that billions of people, aliens positioning their ships over every major city in the world, and Jeff Goldblum and Randy Quaid are the only ones who didn't take a whole day to figure out there was going to be an attack.
Aliens, shitty macs and dial up internet.... man I love the 90s.
Attacking the iconic buildings makes sense on a few levels. But primarily - as it is with human on human wars - destroying iconic structures may be a waste of resources but it does have an immediate demoralizing or blind rage inducing effect on the general populace, allowing you to capitalize on a period of chaos.
You left something out. The CIA is in cahoots with the Aliens. They had been providing the Aliens with intel. That's the only way Area 51 makes sense and why it was hidden. The character Albert Nimziki gives himself away by not exposing it until after they have attacked. I can't believe they put it right in our face and we still can't see it.
All the dust and pollution from the explosions would take a really long time to settle. But in the film it like happens within the same day no %?
Depends actually. With human bombs that explode upward on impact yes.
But these were particle weapons and the explosion is more fire than force pushing down and outwards. There wouldn't be as much dust kick up.