I discovered your content a few weeks ago while I was looking for Deadlock guides and I have to say litterally ALL of your videos are absolutely peak content. Thanks so much for all this, keep up that awesome job dude
I played a similar build while i was learning the game i think its one of the most newbie friendly builds to understand the game and mechanics like spirit vs gun and how lifesteal works. Good video as usual
The main reason I use ricochet isn't to do damage to heros or to farm (although that's a nice bonus). It's to get more lifesteal and be more tanky. Ricochet combined with leech makes you almost invincible in crowded fights as long as you're not under CC. With Infernus, a CC isn't even that detrimental since your damage keeps ticking.
@@jcmonay3773thats exactly why I bought it late like I said in the video, applying stacks on multiple heroes greatly increase your survivability in teamfights
@@AverageJonas Yeah I agree with what you said in the video at the end, it would going the extra mile in the late end game, but you guys were able to end early.
Just been getting into infernous and i went dot builds and just get outhealed every game or stunned 24/7 from krill or abram or something similar so cant wait to try this build out.
I would always prioritize escalating resilience over bullet armor since Infernus has such a high rate of fire he's pretty much always going to walk around with max stack 40% bullet resist.
Sometimes I get distracted and forget to buy items.. till I notice I'm at 8k so I buy ricochet as my first item. Then snowball like a monster and end the game 20k higher than anyone in the match
another detail that is quite important about lifesteal/ healing heroes is that resistency is always better than raw hp. i see many people not get improved bullet or spirit but you have to realize that 100 hp regened with spirit lifesteal is more valuable when you stack resistencies.
I have been spamming this build for like 3 days since I found it ingame and it feels amazing. This is the most consistently powerful I have ever felt in this game. Thank you for sharing. I expect 2 things to bring this down in the future: - Infernus is really strong right now with the recent across-the-board nerfing of gun damage. Debatably the strongest character in the game for many reasons at the moment. Valve will probably reel him in a bit soon, which might hurt the viability of nonstandard builds like this. - People will adapt. They will learn that Infernus is not a fragile DPS machine hoping to stay at the outskirts, and start treating him more like a tank that is actually hoping you dive him. People do not expect Infernus to stand his ground early game. You can out-attrition almost anyone, and those you can't usually cannot stop you from flame-dashing away since they can't burst you. There are so many times midgame where an enemy will show up to defend their walker and start harassing me thinking I'm going to run away. Instead of run, I harass back, and 5 seconds later they're half HP, toxiced, on fire, slowed, and I'm full HP and still have all of my cooldowns. Super fun.
I also use this build and only get ricochet mid-late game depending on how it’s progressing. I go for leach instead of ricochet because it’s more forgiving and lets you stay in game longer. If you can afford go with both. Eitherway definitely focus on afterburn, any other build won’t show his full potential.
PLEASE! make a gun build (and/or) guide for Wraith. i think u are putting a lot of thought into your builds compared to other content creators. i really like watching your vids since u got a calm attitude and pleasant voice to listen to. keep it up!!!
Card Wraith is so far superior than gun Wraith there is no reason to play it. The current card Wraith might actually be a top 3 build across all characters. Maybe when she gets nerfed gun Wraith will return but until then theres no reason to play any other version of Wraith.
Thoughts on working inhibitor into the build? Since your afterburn already lowers Spirit damage output, having inhibitor lower damage from gun and spirit even more while also being tanky makes me think you'd be actually unkillable
Think headshoot booster is only for winning trade in lane, think rapid rounds/hollow point/monster round have better use outside the lane, considering your build you dont buy any gun item and kept the headshot booster for 30 min+.
I also seen some player that sell headshot booster in midgame for another tier 1 weapon item like basic mag/rapid round when they have abit extra gold at shop. Paying 250 to swap to higher value tier 1 midgame seem kinda worth it.
Jonas your videos are always S tier. I sincerely appreciate your detail where it's needed. A perfect balance of detail and consice content. Which Is very hard to do. Thankyou for your hard work.
it is... group stun + allows you to act first (eg steal the rejuv). the amt of games ive comeback from just from an infernus ult rejuv steal is crazy. but you have to use it properly 👀
These types of Infernus builds basically require the enemies to spend their precious souls on anti heal to even deal with Infernus effectively at all. Even then, Infernus still might be able to out heal them unless their opponents all picked up two, even three of the antiheal items.
I just played a game with an Infernus who also thought he was unkillable (and he sort of was for 80% of the game) but then I got Sharp Shooter, Ricochet, Glass Canon, Leech playing as a McGinnis and then I was the unkillable
Seems like theres 2 builds atm - 3 Max passive afteburn with soul shredder and toxic thay scales really hard -2 Build max bc flame charge does sick dmg with leech some resistence and a shit tonne of spirit
You don’t need to force bad fights if you have better map macro than the enemy team. You just win slowly and safely:) also you can’t always predict what items are gonna be in a future situation either, the whole point is to be ready for fights if you have to. The build is literally called tank infernus
@@AverageJonas fair. early ricochet on infernus really accelerate your farm that much means you can get the tank items faster that you need. you'll be fighting creeps/jungle anyway so i just dont get why the spirit bullet armor that early
@@rylul9519because then it would be the same build everyone else uses and that defeats the entire purpose of theorycrafting new playstyles and discovering new ways to play the game:) gotta always experiment to push the meta forward!
Pointless comment. This is literally how the game is designed. Look at your opponents' builds and counter them. You could make a similar comment about any build.
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I discovered your content a few weeks ago while I was looking for Deadlock guides and I have to say litterally ALL of your videos are absolutely peak content. Thanks so much for all this, keep up that awesome job dude
Thank you that means a lot!! 👌
I played a similar build while i was learning the game i think its one of the most newbie friendly builds to understand the game and mechanics like spirit vs gun and how lifesteal works. Good video as usual
The main reason I use ricochet isn't to do damage to heros or to farm (although that's a nice bonus). It's to get more lifesteal and be more tanky. Ricochet combined with leech makes you almost invincible in crowded fights as long as you're not under CC. With Infernus, a CC isn't even that detrimental since your damage keeps ticking.
I'm glad I saw someone said it, I was about to say it does help the leech be even better in most fights.
@@jcmonay3773thats exactly why I bought it late like I said in the video, applying stacks on multiple heroes greatly increase your survivability in teamfights
@@AverageJonas Yeah I agree with what you said in the video at the end, it would going the extra mile in the late end game, but you guys were able to end early.
True, I sometimes get double CCd ulted and I just stand there like "alright" then kill them both haha
Replace leech with Inhibitor for damage reduction
Just been getting into infernous and i went dot builds and just get outhealed every game or stunned 24/7 from krill or abram or something similar so cant wait to try this build out.
I would love more videos like this, I've learned so much more about the game from this video alone!
I would always prioritize escalating resilience over bullet armor since Infernus has such a high rate of fire he's pretty much always going to walk around with max stack 40% bullet resist.
There is probably a world where you can get both but you are forgetting the HP boost from vitality items too!
But in a tank build id always prioritize permanent stat over situationals, good idea tho! Ill try it
I do feel like if you’re engaging with your 2, not shooting before, you’d just get popped, damage is nice and all but the util gun items are too good
I think escalating resil is a must in bruiser builds but i agree with jonas on tanks being better with guaranteed stats.
Sometimes I get distracted and forget to buy items.. till I notice I'm at 8k so I buy ricochet as my first item. Then snowball like a monster and end the game 20k higher than anyone in the match
This video was very helpful to help me quickly understand Infernus. Thank you!
Good build, Jonas. This was also a good infernus guide overall, clarified some things for me.
Love your guides. Keep posting more insteresting approaches on playing the heroes. Thx
another detail that is quite important about lifesteal/ healing heroes is that resistency is always better than raw hp. i see many people not get improved bullet or spirit but you have to realize that 100 hp regened with spirit lifesteal is more valuable when you stack resistencies.
Yep thats correct!
I have been spamming this build for like 3 days since I found it ingame and it feels amazing. This is the most consistently powerful I have ever felt in this game. Thank you for sharing.
I expect 2 things to bring this down in the future:
- Infernus is really strong right now with the recent across-the-board nerfing of gun damage. Debatably the strongest character in the game for many reasons at the moment. Valve will probably reel him in a bit soon, which might hurt the viability of nonstandard builds like this.
- People will adapt. They will learn that Infernus is not a fragile DPS machine hoping to stay at the outskirts, and start treating him more like a tank that is actually hoping you dive him.
People do not expect Infernus to stand his ground early game. You can out-attrition almost anyone, and those you can't usually cannot stop you from flame-dashing away since they can't burst you. There are so many times midgame where an enemy will show up to defend their walker and start harassing me thinking I'm going to run away. Instead of run, I harass back, and 5 seconds later they're half HP, toxiced, on fire, slowed, and I'm full HP and still have all of my cooldowns.
Super fun.
So happy to see you make a new home in Deadlock! This is gonna be good!
not only is this a good guide for the infernus but also good to understand how to use a lead or recover from a losing lane
I also use this build and only get ricochet mid-late game depending on how it’s progressing. I go for leach instead of ricochet because it’s more forgiving and lets you stay in game longer. If you can afford go with both. Eitherway definitely focus on afterburn, any other build won’t show his full potential.
Thank you for the vod!
Been using this build since this video dropped and have a 60% wr, been having so much fun honestly haha survived some very insane scenarios
I like these kind of videos ngl. Hoping you will do one on your gunbob since I'm only used to the double bombs bob
I might do but honestly I suck at gunbop too lmao
Love seeing more character guides
Thanks! I don’t make them too often cause I want to make sure I have a good idea on how to play the hero first
@@AverageJonas totally understandable. I'm sure the people who play the character a lot already appreciate it 😁
smeefus build is the best
Yea his build is great!
PLEASE! make a gun build (and/or) guide for Wraith. i think u are putting a lot of thought into your builds compared to other content creators. i really like watching your vids since u got a calm attitude and pleasant voice to listen to. keep it up!!!
I might try some wraith stuff but I have barely played her!
@@AverageJonas ill be here, waiting :D
Card Wraith is so far superior than gun Wraith there is no reason to play it. The current card Wraith might actually be a top 3 build across all characters. Maybe when she gets nerfed gun Wraith will return but until then theres no reason to play any other version of Wraith.
@@JtotheDoubleL fair enough.... I take a card build too :)
@@JtotheDoubleLeverybody in tourneys and high Elo games playing gun wraith lol
Thoughts on working inhibitor into the build? Since your afterburn already lowers Spirit damage output, having inhibitor lower damage from gun and spirit even more while also being tanky makes me think you'd be actually unkillable
Its in there! Game just ended too soon:)
Think headshoot booster is only for winning trade in lane, think rapid rounds/hollow point/monster round have better use outside the lane, considering your build you dont buy any gun item and kept the headshot booster for 30 min+.
I also seen some player that sell headshot booster in midgame for another tier 1 weapon item like basic mag/rapid round when they have abit extra gold at shop. Paying 250 to swap to higher value tier 1 midgame seem kinda worth it.
Ur supposed to sell it for berserker! Maybe Inforgot in this game. I agree though
I hate going against infernus. Theres always two kind, one mega lifesteal build, strong afterburn build
Yeah the escalating exposure stuff is scary to play against haha
Jonas your videos are always S tier. I sincerely appreciate your detail where it's needed. A perfect balance of detail and consice content. Which Is very hard to do. Thankyou for your hard work.
13:05 LMAO the shade on people saying infernus ult is good in the tierlist video
😂😂😂😂😂
it is... group stun + allows you to act first (eg steal the rejuv). the amt of games ive comeback from just from an infernus ult rejuv steal is crazy. but you have to use it properly 👀
I personally think that if an ult’s main usage is stealing rejuv its not a great ult but im glad you like it!
@@AverageJonas not the main use but a nice perk ;)
The thing about my games, i always struggle to get to those high end items because i keep dying.
Watch the minimap and be less aggressive
@@donkeykong315yep!
Fight less, farm more.
These types of Infernus builds basically require the enemies to spend their precious souls on anti heal to even deal with Infernus effectively at all. Even then, Infernus still might be able to out heal them unless their opponents all picked up two, even three of the antiheal items.
What wuold you say is the main difference to Smeefus tanky Infernus build?
No idea! Haven’t checked it out in detail but I assume it’s very similr and you can use either
Good guide Jonas, but was there a change in the items?
leeches only give me 35% spiritual lifesteal instead of 44%
Leech was changed a while back, or are u talking about how healing booster changes the tooltip?
@@AverageJonas It was about the item, I didn't know what had changed, thanks
I just played a game with an Infernus who also thought he was unkillable (and he sort of was for 80% of the game) but then I got Sharp Shooter, Ricochet, Glass Canon, Leech playing as a McGinnis and then I was the unkillable
Seems like theres 2 builds atm
- 3 Max passive afteburn with soul shredder and toxic thay scales really hard
-2 Build max bc flame charge does sick dmg with leech some resistence and a shit tonne of spirit
I feel like every game since the zipline boost nerf is hyper aggressive lanes. it's just too rewarding to knock someone out of lane for that long.
My go-to counter is toxic bullet plus healbane. For 4250, it pretty much counter lifesteal/healing heroes. I basically bought it on every hero.
Since when jonas moving to deadlock from valo?
Is there a good tank Wraith build, folks?
So I made a build and it's almost identical to this one, good to know I undestand at least something in this game
Nice job!
But i think infernus is still killable by shiv if infernus is low shiv can ulti and kill him instantly
feeeed the algorithm nomnom
Add echo shard x2 flame dash = immortal infernus
i miss wen you steream valorant :(
I like to press my buttons so yeah ty
having bullet armor and spirit midgame kinda waste when you still focus on jungling and split pushing. i dont really see you engaging in fights tbh
You don’t need to force bad fights if you have better map macro than the enemy team. You just win slowly and safely:) also you can’t always predict what items are gonna be in a future situation either, the whole point is to be ready for fights if you have to. The build is literally called tank infernus
@@AverageJonas fair. early ricochet on infernus really accelerate your farm that much means you can get the tank items faster that you need. you'll be fighting creeps/jungle anyway so i just dont get why the spirit bullet armor that early
@@rylul9519because then it would be the same build everyone else uses and that defeats the entire purpose of theorycrafting new playstyles and discovering new ways to play the game:) gotta always experiment to push the meta forward!
@@AverageJonas you're awesome dude
im using infernus now hes been irritating and antagonizing me so much i must join the dark side
Isn't this build super old? Btw, Ammo Scav is bugged, the changes in the patch were not applied
I made it like a week ago! I’m sure there are many similar ones though!
Infernus feels so way over tuned, and about anyone could just stomp on him.
Smeefu build
nice
Or I can just buy toxic bullets and headbane against it and this infernus becomes completely useless
Thats how the game works:)
Pointless comment. This is literally how the game is designed. Look at your opponents' builds and counter them. You could make a similar comment about any build.
Even then at full build or close to this build has like 165% lifesteal lol. And has more innate lifesteal if it hits its 1 or 4 on you
Build spirit lifesteal once and your already outhealing 2 peoples damage
this is such a broken build!
Nooo you're gonna make people play my main :c
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HEALBANE
Leech is bad
no views in 30 seconds bro fell off
Cease?
We miss your valorant plays 😒
Who's we?
This is so good as an Infernus main. I hope they don't nerf him now 🥲