The Model Beast: Rivarossi Cab Forward AC-11 Southern Pacific Locomotive (4272)- Review, Running!
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- My first American HO Steam Locomotive review; on my favorite US Steam Loco! :)
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My uncle has the same engine down to the running number, he had it since he was young. He had it in his attic until I got into model railroading and we decided to test run the ac-11 and another engine. And after a good few years of not running they both still worked!
that is really cool
I have been to the Sacramento train museum a couple times in my life my Dad and I always enjoy the cab forward!
same!
The cab-forward was built to keep the smoke away from the crew by being a almost reversed big boy locomotive apart from the wheel arrangement. They hauled mostly freight but they could do passenger service but it would be uncommon. All in all, cab-forwards are a pretty unique, powerful, and a great piece of American railroading history. Steam locomotives of all types will always remain awesome
Since it's a 4-8-8-2,I'd say closer to a reverse Yellowstone, since the multiple classes of Yellowstone Engines are 2-8-8-4s. The SP even had their own, classified as AC-9s.
The picture that you have of the real 4272 doesn’t have the “Southern Pacific Lines” on the tender likely because of all the dirt and grime that was on the tender from running in the tunnels over Donner Pass. Also Southern Pacific Lines is only on the Pre-war SP engines and rolling stock, if it just says “Southern Pacific” that is Post-war. The war being WW2
“Southern Pacific Lines” lettering on the tender was pre- October 1947… Just “Southern Pacific” lettering on the tender was post October 1947. It was very common for the lettering on the tender to be left off when it came time to repaint a cab forward… after a few runs, you would barely see the lettering on the tender anyway… I hope that clears a few things up :)
of all the things I know about railroading I never put more thought into cab forwards than "those look unique and interesting" and "somehow the fuel gets to the firebox"
even noticing the large tubes running from the tender it took you saying it to put the concept of liquid fuel into my head
All cab-forward pictures also show them with a oil tender so it's not hard to figure out how they were fed.
This is because we usually think of steam engines is running on coal, maybe would. Oil fueled steam engines just weren't very common in the history of steam locomotion.
If you looked at it from the front you would probably think it's a diesel Loco
Yeah
I did
It's just a few steps removed from it since it uses oil instead of coal.
No
I got mine just this month for $107, the guy who sold it was really nice. Only CF I found at the model train expo so I was mega lucky.
Also, you can go inside the cab at the CF in Sacramento, CA.
These were steam powered but ran on oil and water due to the lack of coal on the west coast and at the time oil was considered cheaper, cleaner, and more available.
It could get a bit over 100 degrees in the cab and up to 1,800 degrees in the boiler.
One problem with the CF was the routing of the oil lines, they were right in front of the driving wheels, so if there was a leak the wheels would slip. One incident happened were a CF got stuck in a tunnel and ended up suffocating the crew.
The CF was the last locomotive purchased by Southern Pacific.
They used sand to clean out the boiler, you can see the box that holds the sand right in front of the engines furnace. The sand was actually not good for the boiler.
The CF was built by women from 1944 due to WWII.
Steam actually lasted a bit longer because of the war and the parts for diesels was needed for the war effort.
The CF was the second largest American steam engine, behind the Big Boy and ahead of the Challenger.
Just seeing the locomotive being faced backwards from the tender is cursed. I mean it is a wonky design an all but creative at the same time.
Fun fact
The Broadway limited imports version does not make a good airplane
what
@@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory my club was redoing a large section of our layout and as I was returning my cab forward from the new roundhouse to my staging track after an open house it found a bad spot in the track work and took a nose dive from about 4ft to a concrete floor
@@fairywolf7515 that's terrible
@@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory eh
The paragon decoder burned out when I was first programming it so it was replaced with a tsunami2
However the tsunami didnt support the smoke unit so having to send it to Broadway to be fixed allowed me to get a new paragon 3 decoder and get my smoke back so while it cost me a few bucks because I didnt get proof of purchase for the warranty I'm quite happy with how things turned out
We have this same locomotive in the Sacramento train museum!
We have 60 in Chicago Ridge
I built an AC-12 in Minecraft, it was a lot of hard work getting the blocks in the right spot to make them look right.
Found the 4274 of this at a thrift store. I had just visited the museum in Sacramento a day before and when i saw this my jaw dropped. I had to pick it up. Had no price tag on it and I suggested $20. took it home for a crisp 20. Excited to try this on a layout.
Hey man, out of curiosity, can we expect any content for A History of TTTE anytime soon?
I'm a fan of the AC-4 Cab Forward as that engine is Lerry from The Fullbucket Line. A 12 episode series by Morden L Productions and is my childhood American train show.
Yeah as you said this loco is at my local museum in Sacramento. It's by far the largest there and it's is absolutely magnificent in person
A weathering video for the Cab Forward is a great idea imo. Since the Cab Forwards were known for getting dirty to the point where the “Southern Pacific Lines” was barely visible on the tender
It's awesome to see TrainBoy review American locos.
i cant wait for the model your working on it looks cool
Good Choice! I live in Sac, and love seeing the 4294
It must be so cool to actually be able to see it man! That sounds like a blast 😮💨
Take excellent care of that model, I have a Rivarossi Hiawatha Hudson and ever since the original Rivarossi went bust you cant get replacement parts very easily. anything that breaks almost certainly requires a doner model or a good skillset in 3d printing.
This is awesome, thank you for posting!
I love my Rivarossi Cab Forward. It’s smooth, quiet, and powerful. I have a video on my channel from a couple years ago. Nice content 👍
Glad to see you have good taste in steam. Haha. I have an InterMountain Railway Co. HO AC-12 #4292 and oh my it is a beauty. I have a few videos of it on my channel. Currently the decoder it used to have is now gone and eventually will be replaced with an ESU Loksound 5 decoder.
These models were made years ago, And some Cab Forwards had "Southern Pacific Lines" on the tenders.
If you want to add some glazing to the windows I highly recommend Micro Kristal Klear. I used it on my Bachmann Skarloey and the windows look like they were factory installed. It's from the same company that does Micro Sol/Micro Set for waterslide decals.
Nice review trainboy! you might be the next unlucky tug!
I can’t get enough of the intro and I think you know why😂
Man the cab forward is a pretty cool engine. I can't imagine seeing how the TTTE cast would react to seeing this behemoth
I think they would be really surprised seeing how trains are generally like in the US
@@anhkietduongdo that they would but they have met an Allegheny named Sam and the American Irish twins which I can only assume are Hudsons but I could be wrong
I went to the sacramento railway museum and i saw one, the reason they were made is because there was a lot of tunnels and the smoke it made suffocated the driver and fireman so they put the funnel in the back and the driver snd fireman in the front
I have the same model but #4274 and the fire box is silver and the tender has large Southern Pacific Lettering. I converted it to DCC Sound too!
There is no lettering on the tender in that photo of 4272 because late in the steam days on the SP they would paint the entire tender black rather than wash it. This would typically happen if the engine was called out on a passenger run.
I would love to see you how you weather as another college railroader like myself, I always like learning about how other people do their weathering
Yes this an amazing video, I am a bit jealous that your second American loco is a cab forward , pls do more of these videos.
A beautiful engine and model
I absolutely adore the cabforward
I need one of these, and when I do I'm gonna have it alongside a Union Pacific Big Boy pulling one long train
First a cab forward, now a Peckett Percy? Cool! Will you build a bunker for him?
Oh please more American engines! I love your models and all, but I just LOVE seeing an American locomotive in your fleet!
Nice locomotive! They are very unique style of engines. There is a surviving tender of cab forward 4219. Which is used as a auxiliary tender to Southern pacific Gs-4 daylight 4449.
Really? Which one
@@hubithepyromain6927 4219s tender is still around and it is in Portland Oregon where SP 4449 is.
@@brendanstrains9725 ok now I know which one
@@hubithepyromain6927it’s a big shame that one of the Ac-6 cab forwards weren’t saved because some had the grey boiler and just had a different appearance compared to the later cab forwards.
Hey Lance/Trainboy. This Video actually cheered me up a tad bit, my dog, Vinny, is dying and I can't see them, so to watch this made me slightly happier
Hey liam, feel better soon, we miss you on the discord already :)
Been to Sacramento, love that exhibit in the museum :3
2:24 omg! Yay! I love this locomotive!
I enjoy watching the video about the steam locomotive and I was thinking can you do another one of the famous 611? If you got the time
Dude great video
Fun fact pretty much all rivarossi models have 3 pol motors but there are some upgrade kits on eBay.
Few quick comments, front coupler is a dummy, but can be modified to take a Kadee. I am in the process of rebuilding one of these into an AC9 at the moment. Of note, your model has the older version of drive. The newer ones have a can motor and cab detail.
I feel betrayed that Trainboy purchased the Lionel Diesel set and promptly gave up on O gauge Thomas. You're still missing:
-Thomas Passenger Set
-Thomas Christmas Passenger Set (good luck on that one, as far as I can tell, I purchased the very last sealed set in existence last year, have never seen another for sale)
-Percy Freight Set
-James Freight Set. James. Set. James.
-Thomas Christmas Freight Set
-Expansion Set I
-Expansion Set II
Also, since you seem to be rather limited on space, think vertically as well. An O gauge layout fits pretty perfectly on some simple 2x4 boards installed near the ceiling of your train room. Easy to install, easy to maintain, easy to decorate. The same is doubly true of OO or HO.
Wow that is awesome
Wow! That looks awesome! Great video! Those locomotives look cool!
I just see you in every Thomas community comment section
@@Mrc_kidd20 I'm subscribed to alot of people! (I subscribed to 3 people very recently)
@@bluebellsfan8704 you sub to 161 channels I think
@@Mrc_kidd20 that sounds almost accurate. But how'd you know that?
@@bluebellsfan8704 so look at your youtube channel and there a tab cold channel and it has the channels that you sub to
Looks great
I personally think that cabs should be on the front of engines instead of the rear so it's easier for the Driver/Fireman to see. So that's why I would LOVE to have that model, even though I don't even have a real model railway!
Awesome :) !
well, you've got a REAL freight hauler now!
I love the cab forward!! 😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️
"cad forward" uhhh ok..?
@@mainlinestudios1441 so just fix
@@Im_here170 yeah you liked your own comment and reply and then fixed it
@@mainlinestudios1441 ok what’s deal? Like calm down
@@Im_here170 did it even sound like i had a problem? you're trying to start an argument, not me.
Banger
Sacramento, eh? I might go there if I can afford it when I've got the time. Overall, a very lovely engine and great review, Trainboy!
That has to be my favorite engine next to the sdp40f
Ya know Sunny, I think it would be a pretty cool idea if you expanded your collection of American Rolling Stock
Bruh it's 12:00 am here in the Philippines
They also had the opposite version of it which was partly stream lined
Yes sir
What a unique locomotive! Would be interested to k now what other American locos you have in your collection.
Also interested to know where you found this beauty?
You should see about adding number boards and replace the motor for a can motor. It seems to be an ok runner as is however replacing the original pancake motor for a five pole can will make it run virtually silently and way smoother.
I have a rivarossi Berkshire that I managed to crammed a much too large three pole motor from an old rc boat and although it liked to run fast, it's way smoother than it ever was and is nearly silent when running.
I do love the Cab-Forwards!
The reason why the picture probably doesn't have the name on The Tender is probably it was photoshopped out for some reason Southern Pacific never ran locomotive usually without the name on it somewhere
God I love that engine. It's 2nd to the Lima Berkshire.
I'm an American so the first thing i thought of when I saw this was "It's a Big Boy, but backwards"
YAY FINALLY
I love now that you're looking into America locomotives. And yes the price you paid is a freaking steel. There is a dcc ready Ontario western camel back. Wich is smaller than your locomotive that is worth 245 dollars in my local train store so ya. That is a steel.Also are you doing a rws percy.
You should look into getting a Big Boy locomotive, I got one two years back and I like it
Cool Cab forward engine I like SP!
Holy! I want that! Also, are you going to add a face?
I got my model of 4272 for 5 dollars and it ran, so I guess I got a steal 🤯
“If I choose you, will you work hard?”
*Friends… is this the end of our dear comrade?*
*R.I.P Crovan*
*1919-2021*
I was gonna wait to reveal it but Crovan had an accident that messed him up a good bit, I am not one for throwing away models though and figured I’d save the Peckett 🤣
Intresting to see the contrast between british engines and American ones American ones have much more of industrial and cluttered look with rivets and other things visible while british steak engines are much more smooth and less clustered and ocassionly more colorful
Can you do more American steam locomotives TrainBoy?
Would like to visit, this is a nice history look in on SP AC11 #4272 as I have the same AC11 but it's SP #4274, overall the model may look nice but it is extremely difficult to keep wheels clean, it picks up lots of the "Black Resedue" on those wheels but if it is kept clean like the track, it will run spot on! Also please don't put a face on this locomotive, it ruins everything about it and makes it look like those cringe Thomas OC's all over the Internet, I've been following your Twitter, really nice job on your take on Molly and the Plarail Puffa is just perfection, keep going on to review any models of your choice and make the best out of it.
-TheCrazyRailroader
Also, no the Knuckle coupler on the front is still a dummy and I've paid 85 bucks for mine at a trainshow, little reminder, almost all SP AC11s had SP 6 Chimes
Wow, sir. That loco runs beautifully, especially for a loco that was made in the 70s/80s. Did you put a sound decoder in it? or just a non sound, one.The decoder is what makes or breaks a good running loco.Did you have to repower it, at all?. Nice job, & nice video, too. Thanks Michael NZ
when you weather it be sure to paint the smokebox that’s always bugged me about these rivarossi locomotives
You should try to a model of diesel 10.
It's mainly a class 42 warship
It’s like 12:16 AM where I live
I'd love to own one of these soon. I have the money, but I can't get one just yet.
will you get the Lionel The Polar Express, Electric HO Gauge, Model Train Set w/ Remote and Bluetooth Capability set?
Yasss
Yeah
I recommend buying there UP challenger.
nice
Since TrainBoy named this video “the model beast”, I think if he gave the engine a face he would name it “Beast”
so look closely at the front of the loco and you see the horn in the meddle of the loco it looks like it weaseling
I have an intermountain n scale cab forward if you want to review it also parting out my n scale collection
ayo that boi big
you should make your own custom engine, and i mean like, buy a bunch of parts, have it be unbuilt, to give you a challenge, then build it, if its a tank engine, tram, tender engine, diesel, or electric, you choose, its just a idea.
Can you review any model of UP big boy 4014
Hey Lance. What are your thoughts on the new Trainz Mobile game releasing tomorrow?
how bout the class 800 trainbow can you review it?
Everyone's talking about the engine not the percy thing at the end
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
Is the front coupler easily removed
What about the PERE MARQUETTE locomotive 1225 that is been built from the (LIMA LOCOMOTIVE WORKS) that is in Owosso Michigan.
Well this is about the AC-11, that’s definitely a nice engine but that’s why it wasn’t mentioned.