The Story of Shaw, Mathias Shaw, the James Bond of Warcraft! [Lore]

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  • Spymaster Mathias Shaw has been serving the crown for nearly all his life and has gone more out of the shadows lately...What's his story? What has the leader of the SI:7 done in his time? That's what we're going to be talking about today! I hope you'll enjoy ^_^
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ความคิดเห็น • 516

  • @iceheart1289
    @iceheart1289 4 ปีที่แล้ว +370

    If hes a master of shadows and staying out of sight, why does he have bright gold all over his armor, expert I think not!

    • @Kylora2112
      @Kylora2112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      When you're that sneaky, you can dress like Liberace and still stay unseen. Mathias Shaw's spy teacher never saw him in stealth class.

    • @iceheart1289
      @iceheart1289 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@Kylora2112 if was never seen in stealth class did he get straight A's or did he fail because his teachers thought he never showed up.

    • @spikegilfer1997
      @spikegilfer1997 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@iceheart1289 Yes.

    • @moonchild4648
      @moonchild4648 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      it requires a LOT of skill to sneak around when you dress like that, so maybe it's a form of bragging about his habilities?

    • @ravipun9047
      @ravipun9047 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      gurr

  • @aprilmushroom8986
    @aprilmushroom8986 4 ปีที่แล้ว +405

    historians will say they were bestfriends

    • @hyukin56ace50
      @hyukin56ace50 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      KeennkojoTV they are buddies noting more

    • @neontenebrae1918
      @neontenebrae1918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

      Two bros chilling in a hot tub, five feet apart cos they're not gay 👀

    • @ogikay7056
      @ogikay7056 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      No they were room mates.

    • @TheHughgee
      @TheHughgee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They were cousins!!!! /s

    • @emcrae4764
      @emcrae4764 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      SI:7 will come for them

  • @philiplight226
    @philiplight226 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    If Mathias Shaw appeared in a WOW live action movie, he would be played by Ewan Mcgregor. I don’t know why, but it makes sense.

  • @bruel_9096
    @bruel_9096 4 ปีที่แล้ว +507

    James Bond got himself a Jack Sparrow ;)

    • @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723
      @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      HIDE THE RUM!

    • @SoupBrigade
      @SoupBrigade 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Are you thirsty? I'm thirsty!

    • @Nymphastraza26
      @Nymphastraza26 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      too true;)

    • @973walid
      @973walid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hé be of the gay i think? I hope Blizzard drops a bomshell like it. Ps. Hang the dark lady for Vol jin!

    • @DNGG10
      @DNGG10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@973walid I say you should read Shadows Rising!

  • @RoberMatts
    @RoberMatts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    All I want is for Blizzard to show Mathias being a badass rogue in a cinematic. Might not happened this expansion but would be lovely. BLIZZARD PLS!!!!!!!

    • @celiovicenteribeirofilho9740
      @celiovicenteribeirofilho9740 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Alliance? Being badas?? LOL! Sorry! The way Blzizard wants to write the alliance, we should always be grateful that they did not make him into Jonhy English during BfA.

    • @ValensBellator
      @ValensBellator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He’s basically what I had hoped Garona would be for the horde.

    • @yaboym9631
      @yaboym9631 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@celiovicenteribeirofilho9740 what about varian, he was as badass as they came

    • @celiovicenteribeirofilho9740
      @celiovicenteribeirofilho9740 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yaboym9631 Yep, yep! Varian! But Varian was the last good thing the alliance lost, before the current lore team decided that to tell a story of the horde, the alliance needed to be a patetica version, of itself, and play dumb for the horde to feel good. Alliance has half gods in their group? Let's make their leaders be idiots who forget the most basic of what we know about the Horde and blight, we will make them lose one of their capitals and never get back the act, by letting Syl use a tatica of devastated land to thwart this only chance to hit the horde hard, while not letting them use the advantages it has ( I'm looking at you Vindica , wherever you have beaten) and do everything ally conquered in BfA be just a phyrric vitory, while the horde not only destroyed Darnassus as deprered Darkshore and completed deforestation with Blight.
      And we haven't even seen Gilneas recovered in game. Just in a crappy book, that we would never allow us to see any reflection of something where it really matters, in game, as the horde can always see Gilneas ruined, Theramore nuked to hell and now, with Darnassus in the largest pile of coal in Azeroth and the horde coming out unpunished with another free pass and the alliance with its pride and union in tatters as we could see in our cinematic end-of-war motivator at the embassy that was depressing , which was sad, to the satisfaction of Blizzard and Horde.
      And let's not even talk about seeing Jaina and Geblin converted into loot pinatã for the horde, when we didn't even have the same in the alliance, having to be humiliated in seeing the fight for the horde version, purple blood elves who never gave a rotten apple by the alliance as placebo to High elves, obese kultirans who have not earned the respect of virtually anyone and junkgnomes who have an imperceptive minority that of them not garnering any prestige and interest to ally , as the opposite race of the vulperas superpopulars, relegating the alliance feel a lack of disgusting prestige, which seems more to have been made to demoralize the alliance in any assessment.

    • @bindair_dundat
      @bindair_dundat 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Passionately "backstabbing" Fairwind, or what?

  • @BioNichole1
    @BioNichole1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    "Just because he was attracted to Taelia, it doesn't mean that he can't be attracted to Matthias Shaw."
    Nobble said bisexual rights.

  • @HockeyStickDefence
    @HockeyStickDefence 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Seeing the story of a man who’s realised he hasn’t been living for his own happiness despite being one of the best to do his line of work, been on a path pre-destined for him by his mother/grandmother, and who now wants to find his happiness in a world where he could die at any time due to his job is refreshing to see.

    • @tylermucha9281
      @tylermucha9281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree. I never much cared about Matthias Shaw but I really enjoyed his whole story

  • @WillowHeartz
    @WillowHeartz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    23:52-24:04
    Mathias feeling his nice warm coat
    Flynn: "EASY SAILOR! I know I look good, but we got work to do"
    Freakin died! Good timing Noble!

  • @Girundy
    @Girundy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +164

    I’m a Horde player and this is one of coolest characters on alliance that I like.

    • @mk_gamíng0609
      @mk_gamíng0609 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @John Nabil Valeera has always been more of a alliance character, her loyalties are her own and shes loyal to house Wrynn so as long a Wrynn sits on the throne she will be more of an alliance char

    • @ValensBellator
      @ValensBellator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The only ally I played was pre-bc Vanilla to 60 as well as the cata quests in the old world... right now I’m rushing through all of the quests throughout the expansions for fear that they’ll soon be gone, and Shaw is one of the people I’m most looking forward to seeing! Dude is so cool.

    • @godlygamer911
      @godlygamer911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @John Nabil Valeera has pretty much always been Alliance...

    • @antoniojoe8918
      @antoniojoe8918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hahaha i know u feel men im horde player too and i like him too

    • @joel7342
      @joel7342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ValensBellator The quests won't be gone right?

  • @MrDrackus
    @MrDrackus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Does this make Flynn a bond girl?

    • @mezoglea5801
      @mezoglea5801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ABSOLUTELY

    • @kizu00
      @kizu00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      only in heteronormative terms :p

  • @greyworld6242
    @greyworld6242 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I hope alleria gets character development in this expansion. As well as vereesa.

    • @spikegilfer1997
      @spikegilfer1997 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Vereesa getting development has historically been a painful enterprise for her. Maybe she'll get a bit more of the Jaina BFA treatment?

    • @seanh1321
      @seanh1321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Hopefully they dont have her just standing in one place like she was pretty much the whole of BfA

    • @seanh1321
      @seanh1321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I also want the void elves as a whole to get more development, out of all allied races they have so little lore.

    • @gabrieleslinger6169
      @gabrieleslinger6169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Honestly, Alleria seems like she's going going to go down a Sylvanas route. Mind you, I don't think this is a bad thing; if done correctly, this could be used to have the Windrunner sisters foil off one another. No doubt Sylvanas is going to die or at least be defeated in Shadowlands, but I think Alleria could help build both characters, drawing similarities between herself and Sylvanas, whilst expressing the differences between the sisters through Vereesa.
      Mind you, this could be done correctly if Blizzard writes the story competently, like how Kathreen's character was built upon by Jaina and Lady Ashvane, whilst also building Jaina's character in the process. But you should also remember, these guys are the guys who didn't have us kill Grommash at any point in WoD and also killed N'zoth in a patch, so it's kinda a coin flip

    • @teacoon6399
      @teacoon6399 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hope she gets a bit more shit for painting Sylvanas as a horrible monster just for being undead and I hope Vereesa gets called out for at least pushing her into this direction as she was the one who wanted to kill Garrosh and later turned her back on her.

  • @mortenjusk
    @mortenjusk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    i guess rogues DO do it from behind

    • @tylermucha9281
      @tylermucha9281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This got me xD

    • @emh7769
      @emh7769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A good one

  • @Menion98
    @Menion98 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Mathias Shaw x Flynn Fairwind was the OTP I didn’t know I needed

  • @philippeblais8594
    @philippeblais8594 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    10:09 "an arms race that will change Azeroth forever." Well, up till 8.3 when Azerite was seemingly completely forgotten about in the face of N'zoth.

    • @DarkApostleNoek
      @DarkApostleNoek 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Except for the Tiragarde story, did Azerite actually play any real role story wise?

    • @seanh1321
      @seanh1321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DarkApostleNoek and when we kamehameha'd N'zoth, that's about it.

    • @philippeblais8594
      @philippeblais8594 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarkApostleNoekLady Ashvane was trying to produce weapons made from Azerite. So, yes. Azerite was prominent in Tiragarde.

    • @paxtonjolly7975
      @paxtonjolly7975 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean we did use the power of the azerite through our necklaces in order to destroy nzoth

    • @philippeblais8594
      @philippeblais8594 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paxtonjolly7975 I mean that we never saw Azerite come up in corrupted zones. Never saw old Gods trying to seize this obviously powerful stuff.

  • @andruism7
    @andruism7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Once they upgraded his gear, I couldn’t understand how he could be such an expert spy/infiltrator when his armor is so snazzy.

    • @saffronic3026
      @saffronic3026 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rule of cool my friend

  • @Frosty_Asshole98
    @Frosty_Asshole98 4 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    Is it me, or did Nobbel get hella sensual talking about FairShaw xD He ships it as hard as we do

    • @Dwayneff
      @Dwayneff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      noooo :( Vanessa and Shaw.

    • @randombloodleaf22
      @randombloodleaf22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The SS FairShaw will set sail!!

    • @noctusowl
      @noctusowl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Dwayneff She is more like a daughter to him.

    • @eaglebach3154
      @eaglebach3154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nobbel, I need to know who’s top and who’s bottom. Can you delve deeper into the lore for this?

    • @noctusowl
      @noctusowl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@eaglebach3154 Most fanfic put Flynn as top as Matthias as bottom. Official lore will never go that deep.

  • @Marcai
    @Marcai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    "Are you thirsty? I'm thirsty."

    • @Goldskull_96
      @Goldskull_96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      we're all thirsty for a bit of Shaw

    • @katzicael
      @katzicael 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Goldskull_96 and Flynn ;)

    • @aminsiagian364
      @aminsiagian364 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Shaw is hot, and greyman is daddy. Im gonna stop talking...
      Just some horny night elf here

  • @hkyle2212
    @hkyle2212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Better love story than Tyrande and Malfurion.

    • @Roamingfirebat
      @Roamingfirebat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed

    • @jackmion
      @jackmion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They have been together for too long. Ask someone who has been married for 1 year. It could be worse.

    • @karma0253
      @karma0253 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jackmion They only married after WC3

    • @eaglebach3154
      @eaglebach3154 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He spends most of the time sleeping and rarely there for her when she needs him. Not to mention he’s a clingy whiny loser.

    • @Poppzrox
      @Poppzrox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      every love story is better than theirs. they suck.

  • @Arigost
    @Arigost 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    People saying he's incompetent for being captured in Legion are being stupid what exactly can he do when a Dreadlord teleports and instantly slaughters your entire group and subdues you with magic within seconds of appearing in sight?

    • @gitgud4065
      @gitgud4065 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Cloak of shadows and vanish? :p

    • @oxeroth
      @oxeroth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Vanish, zap and run

    • @prinstyrio0
      @prinstyrio0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, people underestimate Dreadlords or the demons themselves. Just because we go around killing them willy-nilly by the time of Legion doesn't mean it's the same for everyone else. Dreadlords used to exclusively be powerful elites and they're meant to be the most masterful infiltrators in a cosmic conquering force.

    • @darkwhispersstories47
      @darkwhispersstories47 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wait..What?
      Dreadlords are basically the Daddies of all Rogues for fk sake..their entire Race is known for shadow magic..deception and being Cunning! What...HOW can you put the blame on 1 guy for this??

  • @ChuuniVT
    @ChuuniVT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I would love for a book or short story about Mathias' younger days, whether during training under his Grandmother or after, it's a lot of untouched potential!

  • @ericsigil
    @ericsigil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "Now do we worry?
    Nope, nope. Now we run!" lololol

  • @emh7769
    @emh7769 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    TERROR BY TORCHLIGHT?!?! no one ? No one read Terror by Torchlight ? It's a prequel story for the Exploring Azeroth: Eastern Kingdoms book. It's been officially posted by Blizzard, and in the story Mathias and Flynn become CANON and it's official. I'm so so surprised NO ONE is talking about this... Please PLEASE go read it - it's free online...

  • @ThatGUY666666
    @ThatGUY666666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    16:27 I found that particularly memorable because you just do not expect to hear such a retort from someone who is that good at keeping his emotions in check and had come across as being rather amoral for so long.

  • @greymanefxi6404
    @greymanefxi6404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Ms. Madeline Roux did an excellent job writing/building Mathias Shaw amd Flynn Fairwind's relationship together, it's so wholesome to read

  • @Whydoesthissitesuck
    @Whydoesthissitesuck 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I just came here to see if there was anyone in the comments in denial about Mathias and Flynn's relationship

  • @Eldest98642
    @Eldest98642 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    9:30 Valeera sitting on the chair is the best part

  • @heubbeujv6209
    @heubbeujv6209 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Wow. Never been into love relationships in this game but here, this is very refreshing and interesting! More than tyrande shouting MY LOVE 30 times in legion. Good to see some diversity in the game.

  • @MiaThorsteinsson
    @MiaThorsteinsson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    TBH I have shipped Mathias and Flynn ever since that little heist into the treasury.. Back then, it was little more than a fangirl's crazy ship, but to see them actually together makes my heart melt.. I'm so happy, that Blizzard is finally embracing the little details, like a spiring romance between their characters, it gives the game so much depth, rather than just hosting a vouple thousand murderhoboes..

  • @theboofysystem
    @theboofysystem 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The in depth explanation of how Mathias thinks of Flynn was on another level... Also this is surprisingly new of bliz to have a romantic story like even the couples of this game don't rly have time to be romantic so this should be good

  • @jackies.6211
    @jackies.6211 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    People being confused about Flynn crushing on both Taelia and Shaw? Bi and pan people exist, y'all!

    • @Pweips
      @Pweips 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      🙌

  • @Styder111
    @Styder111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hey Nobbel!
    Suggestion. Maybe a series on forgotten lore? Important or significant characters/events that have been ignored, overlooked, forgotten over the years?Not including obviously retconned lore.

  • @amprenta15
    @amprenta15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    RIP Amber Kearnen

  • @Neviriah
    @Neviriah 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I hope we get more representation like this in the game. It doesn't have to be in anyone's face, but just for it to be there and be making everyone feel like it's the most normal thing. We need more of that ♥️
    Awesome video nobbel ^_^

  • @hallec504
    @hallec504 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Legion made shaw so cool, im glad they are using him a lot more. as a rogue it was so cool seeing shaw with valeera after that cutscene in bfa, really felt like the uncrowned was getting back together.

  • @abbyharker6686
    @abbyharker6686 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I'm an old heterosexual woman and I am all hyped about FairShaw. After 16 years of playing the first couple I really am excited for. I hope they will live long enough to develop their love.

    • @valkyriesardo278
      @valkyriesardo278 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm an old heterosexual woman who has played since BC. Apparently you skipped the Legion xpac because Flynn is straight. I am skeptical of Roux as an author for WOW canon. I think she's barking up the wrong tree. But then again, I personally dislike pink hair, piercings, and tattoos. I never have done fads.

    • @lio6502
      @lio6502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@valkyriesardo278 oh my god one of the people that worked for blizzard at that time and was involved in the creation of the quests with flynn literally said hes bi. his crush on taelia was never meant to go anywhere

    • @aaefvacce
      @aaefvacce 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@valkyriesardo278 (1) Flynn didnt exist in Legion. (2) Blizzard told Roux to set him up with Shaw as part of the outline of evemts they wanted to happen in this book.

  • @vindurza
    @vindurza 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I'm actually really happy to see him and Flynn together they make a fun duo

  • @Hydrargiros
    @Hydrargiros 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    better title : The Story of Shaw, Mathias Shaw, the James Bond of Warcraft!

    • @Nobbel87
      @Nobbel87  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      when you're right, you're right!

  • @Sachmeris
    @Sachmeris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thnx for the video Nobbel. It's been painful to see people completely ignorant towards the chemistry Flynn and Shaw have. Hopefully, your video put some light on it for them.

  • @dubiousbrick4483
    @dubiousbrick4483 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm happy you went over some of the Rogue order hall stuff, maybe random but im happy you brought up Amber Kiernen. I hated that they killed her off. i was really REALLY hoping she would be a follower in the Hunter order hall campaign you could recruit. It made perfect sense since she was a sniper that had your back in quite a few zones/quest chains. So dumb they killed her off, i liked Amber, im happy she played a semi-important part in the lore, i just wish she was still around. Who knows, maybe we'll meet her again and she will be sniping enemies in the Maw with us. idk, she was one of those characters thats been around for a while from classic, to the cata revamp quests, and my fav, the Jade forrest quest chain, she was awesome. Her and John J Keeshan have to be my fav side NPC characters.

  • @TheSpoegefugl
    @TheSpoegefugl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    The last time I was this early, my girlfriend was quite disappointed

  • @ValensBellator
    @ValensBellator 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    He’s basically what I had hoped Garona would be for the horde.

    • @gabrieleslinger6169
      @gabrieleslinger6169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The horde has a lot of potential with character development in rogue characters, Garona, Lillian Voss, Valeera; to name a few. The problem?
      They have almost nobody to play off of and make their characters interesting. Characters are made interesting by how they interact with their environment/other characters. Shaw is interesting because he plays off characters, such as Graymane and, most notably, Flynn. Are there any characters who Garona interacts with? Nope. What about Valeera, well yes, but that character is Shaw and she's mostly there to drive plot, like in the case of her attending the meeting with Wrathion, Anduin, and Magni at the start of 8.3 (the only purpose of her presence was so the horde could have an introductory quest to the cloak, visions, and new raid).
      Voss has potential to be driven by Stone, who mirrors her character quite a bit, in a sort of mentor and teacher sort of way, but in my opinion: the best character to further Lilian Voss's character was Thomas Zelling, who was infinitely more interesting than Stone and had the potential to become a badass main character, but was killed off to make Sylvanas seem ruthless. Truthfully, as pissed as everyone got at N'zoth's fast death and wasted potential, I was more pissed off by how a great character like Zelling was killed to make Sylvanas, the character who burned a city full of civilians alive because one elf told her that she couldn't kill hope, seem ruthless.

    • @aethewulf4787
      @aethewulf4787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@gabrieleslinger6169 Valeera serve house Wrynn

    • @deadwar56
      @deadwar56 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I want some character development in some not evil warlock characters

    • @veselinrankov7322
      @veselinrankov7322 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gabrieleslinger6169 Valeera has nothing to do with the Horde, her only loyalty is to house Wrynn. Only reason why she was in Zandalar was because she was sent there by Anduin to tell the Horde hero (the player character) what had happened in Stormwind with Wrathion and introduce them to 8.3 content.

    • @voidwalker6581
      @voidwalker6581 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aethewulf she serve not becz allinace lol , she serve to make peace 2 faction , valeera bloodelvs Belong horde faction not alliance

  • @AlloyOzz08
    @AlloyOzz08 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So thankful that you did this video! I listened to the Audio Book of Shadows Rising and became very interested in Shaw and came here to take a look for a video and couldnt find one. Thanks for making this at the right time!

  • @lytherael2309
    @lytherael2309 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Pretty sure Flynn is bi.

    • @sylphephilippe449
      @sylphephilippe449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It has been confirmed by its creator ^^ ! On twitter if I remember. First he was in love with the girl from Boralus (don't remember her name, with her gryphon !) and then he fell in love with Shawn :p !

    • @lytherael2309
      @lytherael2309 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sylphephilippe449 Taelia Fordragon isn't a hard name to remember. o.o

    • @sylphephilippe449
      @sylphephilippe449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lytherael2309 tAEliA ! Sorry but it's too complicated in a game with so much similar names xd !

    • @darkwhispersstories47
      @darkwhispersstories47 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lytherael2309 so first with the Lich king daughter?(is his daughter right?)
      Damn thats quite the chain of love

    • @lytherael2309
      @lytherael2309 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darkwhispersstories47 Yep.

  • @scrimothy9849
    @scrimothy9849 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    damn 2 days ago i was searching for a lore video about mathias on your channel and i was kinda sad that there were no videos.and now you upload this.ty

  • @BrainGushersTV
    @BrainGushersTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These videos are why I really want to re-level a new toon all over again just to make sure I do allll quests and read thru all the lore lol. It's so much more interesting when I end up watching these videos first. But with Shadowlands coming out and the reworking of levels, Idk if doing something like that is pointless right now or not. >.>

    • @noctusowl
      @noctusowl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Every expansion I do that on both factions.

  • @girl1213
    @girl1213 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    My reaction to Shaw and Flynn: 😯😲👏
    Didn't expect that from either of them, but this is the first gay couple I'm aware of to be in Warcraft. At least among the major or high important support characters.

    • @MrAndido
      @MrAndido 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It’s the first. Trust me, I combed the entire wow lore 3 times over just to check that. And tbh, I’M SO HAPPY ❤️(even if it’s probably gonna be kept in the books ‘cuz blizz wants money from countries where gay is illegal. So yey. Still a cool romance, tho)

    • @QenaitheCustodianGuard
      @QenaitheCustodianGuard 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      "same sex couple" gay is an orientation.
      But I agree it was about time, but iam glad it was these two, they are a great match in my opinion.

    • @meltharion316
      @meltharion316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's the first canonically acknowledged. There's a few quests with suggestive dialogue (a tauren and night elf druid pair in firelands is the only one I can think of rn).

    • @girl1213
      @girl1213 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@QenaitheCustodianGuard I *completely* forgot Flynn's crush on Taelia

  • @SilverFoxGames1177
    @SilverFoxGames1177 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As a new rogue player. This was awesome thank you so much. I loved Flynn in BFA such an amazing character and I did not know about any book. I’ll check it out soon.

  • @Shervin86
    @Shervin86 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    They made Mathias Shaw into Capt. Flint! 😄

  • @a_viewer5386
    @a_viewer5386 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok but why is nobody talking about the subtitles at 14:21
    I love it when people do fun things with subtitles

  • @wizzolo
    @wizzolo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the spymaster that wanted the presence of his spies in orgrimmar to be known, but didn't consider them being fed misinformation by sylvanas.
    the one that lost track of a huge army marching in the open barrens, in full daylight, not hidden by magic, dragging along siege weapons, despite having spies in that army.

    • @darkwhispersstories47
      @darkwhispersstories47 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My quess is that the spies didnt had the chance to report

  • @elisabethkrenn6218
    @elisabethkrenn6218 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really hope it works out for them. I genuinely do.
    *looks for excuses to go bridesmaid-dresses shopping (flattering of course! Being a void-elf doesn't kill the fashion sense you know.)

  • @spikegilfer1997
    @spikegilfer1997 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    "More like 'Gaymes Bond' lmao."
    And that's my impulsive move for the day.

  • @noraj.5100
    @noraj.5100 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the Exploring Azeroth: Eastern Kingdoms book, there's a snippet where Shaw talks about Amber Kearnen and how she was his close (best?) friend, which is really sad :(

  • @vcxlll
    @vcxlll 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi nobbel, haven't watched in years. Glad ure still doing these!
    Actually if I want to start learning about the Lore of WoW from the beginniningining, which vidya/Playlist would you recommend starting from? Is there a series of playlists and an order to watching them?

    • @Nobbel87
      @Nobbel87  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I got some playlists in chrono order yea! 1: th-cam.com/play/PLV3Yvqnl3FYcsI4px2GaIxUQ8io4kuZ2s.html 2: th-cam.com/play/PLV3Yvqnl3FYfJu8KqFv-MAj88mPue6ZH4.html 3: th-cam.com/play/PLV3Yvqnl3FYeF53PWfZgFAKYtmRSjS5hH.html 4: th-cam.com/play/PLV3Yvqnl3FYdrisuybIZzneHMAtGMRFuf.html

  • @nezunskyfire292
    @nezunskyfire292 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Welcome to my secret lair on Skullcrusher the Mountain~
    ...wait...

  • @Adjusting
    @Adjusting 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's about time.

  • @TheSoprah
    @TheSoprah 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:58 omg I forgot that this area existed. in a newer Expansion, blizz added training dummys there. Times goes too fast man..

  • @TheLastPoulpe
    @TheLastPoulpe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Daddy Shaw :3 I'm happy for him and Flynn

  • @blindfold1046
    @blindfold1046 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    you know, i'm here for Mathias x Flynn

  • @notyourdaughter666
    @notyourdaughter666 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i love mat and his boyfriend, they’re so cute

  • @magstheghoul
    @magstheghoul 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for this!! I really wanted to learn more about Mathias after reading Shadow's Rising 😍

  • @AmberWrath
    @AmberWrath 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just started watching the video, haven't seen much, came here for Flynn x Matthias

  • @tynao2029
    @tynao2029 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    the Old Towns and certain wards of Stormwind are filled with awesome

  • @adelukun
    @adelukun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I know my devianart of shaw/flynn would shine one day
    Yass!

    • @blake6402
      @blake6402 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was all about a matter of time^^

    • @cabriacousins2714
      @cabriacousins2714 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now if we can just get Wrathion and Anduin...
      I will go down with this ship. This, or Anduin and Taelia.

  • @kulrigalestout
    @kulrigalestout 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I loves me some ladies and am fond of their jiggly bits, and I'm not a big fan of my fellow man in that way. But if Shaw or Fairwind were to approach me from the shadows, I certainly wouldn't complain if the night ended with a dagger in the back.

    • @ratboygirl
      @ratboygirl ปีที่แล้ว

      i know this comment is from a few years ago but i just want to say i appreciate it especially after seeing the not-so-nice responses to the video :)

  • @pandakc1
    @pandakc1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Just love how people are complaining about “Oh it’s being forced!” Or “Oh I’m unsubing because there just happens to be a non straight relationship!”. One their story if you actually pay attention isn’t forced at all.. two most of those who are complaining about it being two guys wouldn’t say crap if it were about two girls now would you? No, you wouldn’t complain at all. So, who cares if a character is bi?! It’s 2020! Get over it!!

  • @ProxyRacks
    @ProxyRacks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why do people keep talking about his bright alliance-ey armor? Do people still not realize rogues in WoW can literally turn invisible? It's not just regular sneaking. It was confirmed once more in the cinematic where those undead assassin try to kill Thrall/Varok, and then again very recently in the Afterlives: Maldraxxus with Draka blipping in and out of view constantly followed by the rogue stealth noise. Given that they've had abilities like Cloak of Shadows and Shadow Dance for ages now, do people have a hard time believing rogues know some shadow magic to bolster their abilities?

  • @tuggerjaegger2886
    @tuggerjaegger2886 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    14:53 instead of a huge builder, a golden monster appears x'D i love WoW with their movies and othe games references

  • @902100101
    @902100101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So shaw is gay for flinn? Honestly they had a great, albeit small interaction in BFA, but like the majority of BFA they didn't explore that story, interaction, whatever at all. More wacky Shaw/Flinn hijinks would have been great.

  • @Vanessa_exe
    @Vanessa_exe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    i can't wait for Matthias and Flynn to become slightly more overt in game, and despite setting it up from pre-BFA/legion, and people get super mad about "LGBT-pandaren"

    • @hyukin56ace50
      @hyukin56ace50 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vanessa they are not gay

    • @icarusstudio6960
      @icarusstudio6960 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@hyukin56ace50 erm.... I don't know how to tell you this.... maybe you should read shadows rising

    • @Vanessa_exe
      @Vanessa_exe 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know they aren't gay. However unless blizzard makes it very, very clear, and just leaves it at "oh Flynn while the zandalari were torturing me for weeks, I couldn't stop thinking about us being together in a small winter lodge, I want to get to know you better and enjoy living together with you" people will very very easily extrapolate that into gay.
      And I'm all for that, but I know Blizz cares about Chinese and eastern European sales numbers, so they won't risk making it official. And they will never be able to say anything insinuating it is.
      As much as I love and live LGBT couples, I hate when companies do breadcrumb shit like this. "Haha see were leaving just enough to bait you, but we care about out eastern market shareholders!"

    • @Vanessa_exe
      @Vanessa_exe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Remember Bi doesn't exist to some people, not everyone saw that tweet, and some people take his in game flirting with her as him being straight.
      I want the big gay spy ship as much as next girl but until we reach GW2 levels of gay we are nowhere to those who won't look, and hellspawn to shareholders.

  • @giovannysilva7735
    @giovannysilva7735 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ty for the heads-up... I'm reading the book ;)
    As always, awesome vid m8

  • @emcrae4764
    @emcrae4764 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The ship has officially sailed. Shaw x Fairwind is what wow needs. (At least for intellectual ones)

    • @CaiRobinson
      @CaiRobinson 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      At first I was confused by it as they are just two very different types of people. But now I'm intrigued

  • @insecdroid
    @insecdroid 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Waited until I finished Shadows Rising to watch this. So glad I did.

  • @CheezeSailor
    @CheezeSailor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shaw and Flynn are a canon couple in my head.

  • @ryle1732
    @ryle1732 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That thumbs up at 14:40 always kills me.

  • @Sututiv
    @Sututiv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:18 "Dream Brew" at the bottom right

  • @skittlez13gurl
    @skittlez13gurl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I didn’t know I needed this ✨

  • @93iheb
    @93iheb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Mathias and Flynn have a better love story than twilight

  • @Poppzrox
    @Poppzrox 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    jaina's voice when she interrupted shaw before the treasury heist ,, she knew what was going to happen there XD

  • @harrisonvc9175
    @harrisonvc9175 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    *sigh* i dread it whenever i hear that blizz (or any other popular game, tv show, etc...) is writing in a gay relationship. Every time this happens everyone loses their mind. im gay and it sucks to see so much homophobic hate boil to the surface yet again :/

    • @KabukiJava
      @KabukiJava 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I feel ya but I think overall this ones been pretty positive the only people who seem to be bitching are the same people that bother to whine on the forums and troll on trade chat and literally nothing makes them happy so easy to ignore them like I always do lol

    • @stormstrider1990
      @stormstrider1990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      When a popular manga or anime introduces an LGBT character, nobody bats an eye.
      When a popular western franchise introduces an LGBT character, it's "SJW"- this and "liberal pandering"- that.
      It seems you can no longer enjoy a franchise without choosing sides.

    • @saffronic3026
      @saffronic3026 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think people were just rooting for Valeera and Shaw, seeing as how that's out the window I'm hoping for Valeera and Feathermoon, a strong lesbian couple would do some good I think

    • @vikkysenpai
      @vikkysenpai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@saffronic3026 shouldve been Thalissra and Lady Liadrin for the strong lesbian couple and shaw and valeera as a strong hetero couple. I'm all for same sex relationships when it feels they make sense. Shaw and Flynn really only had that 1 interaction in 1 war campaign quest and it felt like a forced relationship to me in the book. The gay farmer and the lesbian Zandalari trolls didnt feel forced it felt like it gelled in perfectly but Shaw and Flynn felt like a "diversity couple" to just push a major character gay for no reason. Idk my personal opinion on it. I'm fine if they had more chemistry but I dont see it tbh

    • @twelvezeros
      @twelvezeros 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm gay and i LOVE it. Just enjoy it, why focus on the negativity?

  • @nathancarpathia9591
    @nathancarpathia9591 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wholesome AF

  • @Anftuel
    @Anftuel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the people who are saying they should've only been good friends at the end of the novel are the same people who think subtlety rogues don't use void magic because it is only heavily implied in their description LMAO

  • @N3cr0S0ulja
    @N3cr0S0ulja 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Shadows Rising Book is not OUT released everywhere on planet Earth Yet...
    Australia does not have the (paper copy out in stores yet).

  • @allenc4731
    @allenc4731 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Finally a gay character in WoW, and imo he (and his lover Flynn) is about the most interesting character in the game at the moment. I hope they manage to make a baby in Shadowland ;)

  • @sandi-zli9567
    @sandi-zli9567 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stormwindzz,riotzz,streatzz,takeoutzz,freindzz,thatzz,insteadzz,headzz,deathz,treatzz,highlandzz,fun factzz,worldzz -> I like that zzz on the end,nice touch :D

  • @Sara-it9se
    @Sara-it9se 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The most underrated badass in wow.

  • @kasesmith261
    @kasesmith261 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved this. Happy flynn and shaw are on their way to b a couple. Nice to see more variety in game. Csnt wait for that one book!
    Thanks for the awesome vid

  • @goldfishprime
    @goldfishprime 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait, the Broken Shore.... the Horde and Alliance didn't even know where they were attacking just hours beforehand? They just loaded up onto boats and were like, "Set sail!?"

    • @DrApplezman
      @DrApplezman 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      my guess fake shaw fed them false info.

    • @goldfishprime
      @goldfishprime 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DrApplezman But they show Detherac ambushing Shaw and the others as they were about to withdraw, then taking on the disguise. Shaw was going to warn the fleet, "It's a trap, don't attack" but he was taken. But the fleet was already on the way, so it was like the Horde and Alliance wanted to attack something, didn't know what and they would figure it out when they got there. They didn't even need a dreadlord deceiving them, they did themselves in.

    • @prinstyrio0
      @prinstyrio0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They knew it was the Burning Legion coming and it makes sense they'd wanna hit them before they got any sort of foothold, cause once they do there was a chance it'd be impossible to push them back and it's over. It's a big risk, but the other risk of not acting is letting the Burning Legion win.
      Ofcourse we do manage to recover and we as the hero does manage to turn everything, but it's more meant as a miracle and a great struggle than anything that a reassured thing after losing Broken Shore. We know as players we will win against the threat, but I'm pretty sure it's meant to appear more hopeless and that the Legion has already won, we're just slowing them down from conquering, yet we prove the opposite which is the point of our story.
      Eitherway it was a desperate attempt to halt the invasion at its core and it failed. It's the Burning Legion afterall, it's unlike any other threat that anyone has faced and it remains the biggest and greatest threat we've faced so far in terms of the critical emergency and need to act upon it before any sound strategy can be made, or if that's even possible as to us at the time the Burning Legion is infinite.

  • @Andnyqv
    @Andnyqv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What Soverreign king that was slain in his own home is Varok talking about at 16:23?

    • @baiberr
      @baiberr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      King Rastakhan of the Zandalari Trolls

    • @vindurza
      @vindurza 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Either Rastakhan, or the Original King Liane Wrynn Varian's father.

  • @ogikay7056
    @ogikay7056 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mathias makes rogues look cool.

  • @zorigoobatjil2246
    @zorigoobatjil2246 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally thank you.

  • @1337Higgins
    @1337Higgins 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I too am excited to be here early. HI NOBBEL :3

  • @TheBrimfire
    @TheBrimfire 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    truly a story about backstabbers

  • @Pweips
    @Pweips 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I wish blizz will continue and include more LGBTQ + story like this. It's refreshing.

  • @MagiWolfeGamingHD
    @MagiWolfeGamingHD 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Nobbel, what weapon are you using? I've got a troll that I definitely want to cosplay as a shadow hunter and that wep would suit magnificently!

  • @seancooley3839
    @seancooley3839 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do a video on the death stalkers?

  • @Scourgelorde
    @Scourgelorde 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I see Mathias and Flynn getting shipped

    • @heathmcrigsby
      @heathmcrigsby 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Disgusting.

    • @Scourgelorde
      @Scourgelorde 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@heathmcrigsby homophobic in 2020? Run, they'll come for you

    • @heathmcrigsby
      @heathmcrigsby 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Scourgelorde I'm muslim, it's against my religion.

    • @Scourgelorde
      @Scourgelorde 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@heathmcrigsby you can be religious and not homophobic. To call it disgusting and using religion as an excuse is pretty low iq

    • @oloipop
      @oloipop 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@heathmcrigsby I am not a muslim. But i am pretty sure, that your religion is saying, to not do it on your own. Not to rate or suppress them. There is no point of the Quran that strictly says, that it is a real sin. It's says in some ways, that its disqusting. But thats not a reason to take the opinion just, because a old book tells me to.
      Why i am answering if i am sure i wont change anything?
      Well its 2020 and we all have our "flaws" (don't see beeing gay as a flaw, but some do) and we should accept everyone on this planet. I mean due to wrong pictures of people we had people like Hitler or other evil personalities in the past. Think about you action. You don't have to be gay, but to tolerate people should be a thing that everyone can do.
      PS: I am a christian and thats not a reason for me to wait for sex until marriage or be disgusted by people that aren't waiting either.

  • @Dragonsamurai300
    @Dragonsamurai300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First time I've ever heard of any homosexuals in WoW. It's nice to see blizzard is willing to give us more variety in characters sexualities. Most other characters we've seen so far are heterosexual.

  • @vorriengaming2257
    @vorriengaming2257 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do Magni Bronzebeard, he is my favorite and I am pretty sure you haven't yet

  • @C4NIVORE9273
    @C4NIVORE9273 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I feel like if the people who are against the idea of the pairing would just take the time to listen and to watch this video they would understand how amazing the writing is for these two it feels natural as it should i hate when Entertainment shoe horns in LGBTQ characters to check a box off the list, (if you dont know what i mean watch pretty much any Netflix original) this is definitely not that and it is a shining example of how character development should be done. I just hope they give Taelia and Anduin the same treatment I want to see a ceremony at the end of this next expansion or at the begining of the next (sort of that Velen moment at the end of legion) Anduin knows he needs to leave a bloodline and who better for a potential wife...