@@dotsdot5608I honestly don’t I had sympathy for her in the beginning especially with her father pimping her out but the moment she had power she refused to do anything about it until Otto suggested slaughtering rhaenerya and her family that is when she put her foot down not before hand that is when my sympathy flew out the window and when she was working with larys.
I remember how she used to ask Rheanyra to present all her children to see if they were true Tageryeans, how she kept on the rumors of the children’s parentage, trained her children to hate Rhae and her kids, No she wasn’t innocent! She was power drunk too! Even Otto knew Viserys never changed his mind ! Why did she lock up Rheanys ? Why didn’t she inform Rheanyra her dad had died etc ! She deserved her fate ; happy she got to see Rheanyra’s son take the throne at the end ; wish she was alive to see Viserys the 2nd’s return! W
She basically dies alone, her whole family dead and she goes into a hysteria hating the color green and wanting to see her children again. after all the stuff her and otto did all for nothing, causing the excitation of dragons and almost causing the fall of house targaryen.
Agree. She'd have been MUCH better off if she just let Rhaenyra be queen. Most, if not all, of her children and grandchildren would probably be alive. If I made that big of blunder, I'd go crazy too.
@dante6985 her father poisoned her to believe her children would be in danger all bcuz he wanted her oldest on the throne and it was more power for the Hightowers.
I kno some fans gonna hate me but I don’t blame alicent for the war she just did what she thought was right by puttin aegon as king even tho she was wrong for doing that I just feel like this war should’ve never happened in my opinion I love both sides green & black they both have good characters on both sides and great dragons
That was the biggest problem with the Greens, they never knew when to stop. That’s Alicent’s children died and her father was remembered as a traitor and her son as a usurper. She outlived them all and suffered alone.
@@ambz-yb6zy tears rhaenyra is called a usurper by her own descendants(stannis and viserys) and aegon is recognized as king aegon ii. Even daenerys says there were 5 aegons that ruled
her father was the cause of it all. He was power hungry. He used his daughter as a tool. She got caught up in his plans. Lots of blame to go around. But Otto is number 1 in my book
I feel so bad for poor Helaena. She was truly innocent. She only did what her family expected of her. If they wanted a son for a son, they should have gone after Aemond.
Born in the wrong side of the family. Her mother was an andal, never believed in “queer” culture of targs despite having targ husband. So otto and alicent thought she was a looney. Her absent father never gave her an attention. If only they see her as a seer.. poor bstard. alicent thought how queer the targs are about marrying their siblings but was OK marrying her children to each other 😅
The north always remembers. Creggan stark was a real man of honour for still seeing to his queen's heir to be on the throne after her death. Can't wait to see creggan on the small screen.
I think the show will do something different with Jaehaera’s death and they will have her die a bit sooner while Alicent is still alive or they might make Alicent live slightly longer for her to hear the news that her last living descendant is dead. I think that will serve as one symbolic poetic justice of what scheming can cause devastation to your family. I think that the final death in her family will truly break Alicent and make her realize that her and her fathers plan did not come to fruition and it cost the lives of her loved ones. Because after the war, she was locked up and spending the rest of her days in Maegor’s Holdfast because her allies had turned on her and her son Aegon. She was in captivity because Tyland Lannister, a Green, wanted protection for the new regime of Aegon III, a Black. She died completely powerless than she ever was and she would have to bear the thought that even though her son wouldn’t have been the king of westeros, at least he and the rest of her children and grandchildren maybe would have been alive had they let Rhaenyra just ascend the throne without conflict. The show should defintley let Alicent still be alive during Jaehaera’s death becuase that would be a lot more poetic and hard hitting to watch that final domino of your family die in front of your eyes. And think about it the war completely decimated the entire Green faction within 4 years 129AC-133AC. So the Greens, in my opinion, definitely did not win because their goal itself was not to make sure that everyone goes by male precedent, that was just their main weapon of legitimization of their claimant Aegon to take the throne. The real ambitions of Otto and Alicent were for the Hightowers to become more powerful through the Targaryen-Hightower line to rule the Iron throne forever. The Dance of Dragons was all about the battle of the bloodline. And they completely lost that goal because thanks to their plotting their line was decimated within a pathetic 4 year timespan and Rhaenyra’s bloodline triumphed but at a great cost because the dragons went extinct but the blacks at least prevailed over the Greens and their personal pursuit of the dominating bloodline.
@@DanceswithfishesThe blacks ultimately win due to Rhaenyra's son Aegon lll, getting the throne. In the end, the greens have no army and a huge northern army flying no colors but Rhaenyra's on the way to destroy the green remainders. The hour of the wolf occurs(Cregan Stark passing judgements) and all but 2 go to the wall. Clubfoot is executed, but I can't remember who the other was. So in the end, the Blacks win, but the new king hates dragons and the last of em, they basically die out during his reign. Can't blame him though.
@@Danceswithfishes if by win have their family destroyed then sure. By the time she is queen daemon cheated on her died, she lost all but 1 child and is then eaten. And history regards her as a traitor
@@Danceswithfishesin the books she was never mentioned again. Died of fever. She was just a passing thought by the writer’s POV. She was bitter and resentful, daydreaming about being a child once again reading to her king (father of viserys) tragic. But thats what happens when u lose the game
Lol. She claimed to want peace between families but in the same breath she hurt Rhae by basically saying that she shouldn't be so upset because the one who got killed was simply a bastard child which apparently means he wasn't worth much. Nah she definitely wanted a war cause that was practically a slap in the face for Rhae. She loved all her children.
Lol. You talk like Rhaenyra is some morally correct person when she's really not. When it's all said and done, both sides will commit unspeakable acts upon each other.
To be honest I actually don't know what Rhae did that was so bad for Alicent. When she married her father, Rhae was still nice to her and caring to some degree. She only got rid of Otto, but he did indeed plot against the king, wanting to plant his daughter already to the previous king. The worst crime she did was actually just being herself and overusing her power, yeah, but she did never openly did anything to Alicent. The lie about if she had slept with somebody was sadly, but a must for Rhae and understandable. Alicent was the most hurt by the bastards and the fight between the kids, but it's not like Rhae ordered it. And then it is Rhaes son who dies first.@@ninshu412
@@ninshu412 alicole banging each other in the season 2 will always be funny to me. Woe is me the seductress spidey rhaenyra who stole cole’s virtue 😭 but will eat alicent’s kitty. She’s a widow! That won’t count. Never mind he is a knight! SluttyRhaenyra a royal blood, who sleeps a lot with men, but it’s OK for alicent to fck a knight. Because duh, shes been thru a lot! “RULES FOR THEE AND NOT FOR ME”
She tries to do the right thing but is so consumed with bitterness of the supposed betrayal when rumors started of Rhaenyra and Daemon slept together, when they didn't. When Alicent found her former friend did sleep with Criston Cole, she didn't ask 'anything' about him, just with Daemon. SO her bitterness is delusional. Glad to hear her father was beheaded, as he's the Tywin Lannister of HotD. I think as she knows what her son is already like, flashfoward when he becomes crazy, she's gonna b part of his assassination to save the kingdom before it gets worse.
Honestly reading Alicent and Rhaenyras relationship through a “repressed queer” lens makes a lot of her behavior make sense. Her bitterness toward Rhaenyra not telling her about what really happened with Daemon and assuming the rumor as true is sorta outrageous. It’s more like that of a jilted lover. So you view it through her being secretly in love with Rhaenyra (and having zero idea that she is bc of the society they live in, and that it would be impossible anyway) her overreaction makes more sense, as does her carrying this bitter wound apparently years and years down the line. It’s also likely mixed up with a possible feeling of resentment at being married off to Rhaenyras father, and perceiving Rhaenyra more free than her while she has to be broodmare to an old king. I think it’s a combo of those things Alicent ends up becoming motivated about a lot of other things later that she probably doesn’t even remember or care specifically about the Daemon thing anymore. But the root hurt I think stems from all the above deep down They “broke up before they ever even dated and made it literally everyone else’s problem” 😂
I felt sorry for her (in the series) up until she gave that poor girl that her own son assaulted money and moon tea as if that would erase the trauma she endured.
Imagine if Otto, you know, just didn't marry Alicent to Viserys. He was already a rich and powerful lord. Had Rhaenyra and Alicent's friendship remained, Otto would have kept an honorable position even if Corlys or Rhaenys eventually replaced him as Hand. He knew the danger he was putting his daughter and future grandchildren in, and he willingly risked it all.
*"What have I done but what was expected of me? Forever upholding the kingdom, the family, the law. While you flout all to do all as you please. Where is duty? Where is sacrifice? It's trampled under your pretty foot again! And now you take my son's eye, and to even that, you feel entitled!"*
@@nayakiabates8814yea that's exactly what she's saying and not getting sick of rhaenyra's dangerous entitlement after her kid not only took her son's eye, but wanted him tortured and their father threatened to cut off his tongue to appease the lame ass..
All this for the Iron throne. Alicent is treacherous. She became greedy after she had her sons and felt they had the right to the throne over Rhaenyra simply because they were boys. If she mistook Viserys's last wish, then all the drama was due to one misunderstanding.
in her tv show adaptation i feel really sorry for her, she's like 15 in the first part of season 1 and she's made to have sex with a man probably three times her age and get pregnant almost instantly, break her relationship with probably her only friend and getting manipulated to do all these things by her FATHER growing to be kind of a bitter woman but still having her family only for all of your children and grandchildren die in horrific ways, almost all her life was defined by trauma i hate otto hightower with all my heart, there's a special place in the seven hells for that monster
No they didn’t and you don’t know what your talking about. The average marriage age at the time was the late teens to early twenties and most people married others in their age range, not someone obscenely older. Such a notion is a historic myth.
@@liafbaby7791Absolutely. And the way the showrunners depicted Alicent as knowing nothing at all what happening around her makes my blood boiling. A 15 years old girl not an 7 years old girl. She knew what was Otto plan. She knew what could happen If she serially attending the King in his bedchamber. Maybe she was young to understand how s*x is working, but the society norms and hierarchy, etc. indicating even these kind of matters too.
@@annabellad.7298but… but… my baby girl she was manipulated, poor queen has to rule westeros with her ailing husband, poor queen has to sell her feet to onlyfans, poor alicennnnntttt
I feel as though its important to mention, that the show and books are different for a reason. The books are what the Maester's wrote, and therefore, the winners. We can see the Maester's are incredibly biased, and are willing to lie when documenting. Its the history the people ultimately know. But, the show is what truly happened. Its an unbiased truth of the dance of the dragons, and what the people wont ever know. The show, therefore, is more cannon than their bookish counterparts. And its only fair to compare the books to them, not them to the books
Great video, when I first started watching the show I really liked Alicent and felt a bit sorry for her but as the show went on I saw her jealousy and yes her righteousness and i started disliking her. She heard what she wanted and I believe deep down she was also power hungry. Thanks for sharing your time with us and keep the good work going 💕💕
Why doesn’t the show make sense and Rhaenrya and Alicent’s relationship and dynamic and core of conflict seem so stupid is because in the books or chronicles of the time it was clearly stated that this two women did not share a grain of care or love between them. By 129 AC With Rhaenrya living in dragonstone with Leanor and later with Daemon since 115AC only froze more the relationship between Rhaenrya and her haft siblings. Allowing alicent to poison Aegon, Helaena, Aemond and Daeron against their sister. Consider Rhanerya was already a mother of 2 by then with Jace being 1 and Luke just been born. While Aegon was 8, Helaena was 6, Aemond was 5 and Daeron had just been send off to old town with less than 2 years old by alicent. When Viserys finally died alicent went all out. She put her 23 years old plan in the making. Took her 10 days to gather her green Lords which she had been collecting since Aegon was born, and prepared Aegon’s coronation which she had also prepared for the past 23 years. So when Rhaenrya find out she wanted to go and kill them all. However, the show also Change that it was Daemon who convince Rhaenrya to not use the dragons on the greens to try the envoy. That is why he left for riverlands. However, after Luke was killed by Aemond. Rhaenrya wanted to give up but Daemon send her a raven with the word “an eye for an eye and son for son. Luke will be avenged” Daemon send for Mysaria who was in KL and hired blood and cheese. When the greens capture blood with Jaehaerys head still in sack. Blood mention they were hired by the white wyrm “lady misery”. Mysaria flee to dragonstone where she remain until the fall of KL then she return to the red keep until her death. Then the war fully escalated. Alicent tried mid war to try to stop and maybe even divide Westeros into two but Rhaenrya have lost too much and she wasn’t killing come to settlement. This two women hated each other. Alicent died regretting what happened to her kids not what happened to Rhaenrya and hers
I just wish someone would give her the biggest wake up call known to man and I hope it will be rhaenyera to give it to her especially when she comes to kings landing and takes her hostage rhaenyera needs to tell her the truth and she needs to hear it and perhaps a slap for her children slaughtering rhaenyera’s regardless of if it was an accident or not. The target she placed on her family’s back the moment she helped crown aegon.
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2:37 i would rather feed my sons to the dragons then have them hold shields or cups for your bumbling druken usper of a grandson- Daemon Targaryen to ser otto of the hightower
I hate Otto he used his child like a pretty doll for luring the King. I don't think he want the Kingdoom to be in peace he want more than that he want power and Peace for Westeros but only in is term. But he was right there is no way Alicent's children would be safe if Rhaenyra is Queen.
I feel like the show wants me to hate Alicant, but I just love her. To me she seems really kind, and she seems to genuinely want to do the right thing.
She may outlive just about everyone but she’s going to wish she hadn’t
I hope she finds peace in the show
@@dotsdot5608I honestly don’t I had sympathy for her in the beginning especially with her father pimping her out but the moment she had power she refused to do anything about it until Otto suggested slaughtering rhaenerya and her family that is when she put her foot down not before hand that is when my sympathy flew out the window and when she was working with larys.
True
@@Mcherriyou greatly misunderstand what power she had, what a flippant comment
I remember how she used to ask Rheanyra to present all her children to see if they were true Tageryeans, how she kept on the rumors of the children’s parentage, trained her children to hate Rhae and her kids,
No she wasn’t innocent! She was power drunk too!
Even Otto knew Viserys never changed his mind !
Why did she lock up Rheanys ?
Why didn’t she inform Rheanyra her dad had died etc !
She deserved her fate ; happy she got to see Rheanyra’s son take the throne at the end ; wish she was alive to see Viserys the 2nd’s return! W
She basically dies alone, her whole family dead and she goes into a hysteria hating the color green and wanting to see her children again. after all the stuff her and otto did all for nothing, causing the excitation of dragons and almost causing the fall of house targaryen.
Agree. She'd have been MUCH better off if she just let Rhaenyra be queen. Most, if not all, of her children and grandchildren would probably be alive. If I made that big of blunder, I'd go crazy too.
@dante6985 her father poisoned her to believe her children would be in danger all bcuz he wanted her oldest on the throne and it was more power for the Hightowers.
I kno some fans gonna hate me but I don’t blame alicent for the war she just did what she thought was right by puttin aegon as king even tho she was wrong for doing that I just feel like this war should’ve never happened in my opinion I love both sides green & black they both have good characters on both sides and great dragons
I blame Otto Hightower for treating her a chess piece
All because some old king just had to marry a teenager.
That was the biggest problem with the Greens, they never knew when to stop. That’s Alicent’s children died and her father was remembered as a traitor and her son as a usurper. She outlived them all and suffered alone.
Except they weren’t. Rhenyera was considered the usurper and even her short six month reign was wiped from the history books
@@arunsingla3452 King Aegon II was known as "The Usurper" by the people of Westeros while Rhaenyra was known as The Half-Year Queen
@@arunsingla3452and Rhaenyra's child got the throne.
@@ambz-yb6zy tears rhaenyra is called a usurper by her own descendants(stannis and viserys) and aegon is recognized as king aegon ii. Even daenerys says there were 5 aegons that ruled
That’s the problem with the blacks they don’t win and they loose everything also mate what are you talking about lol
Alicent's biggest fear came true. All of this wouldn't have happened if she hadn't pressured Aegon to take the throne and challenge Rhaenyra's claim
She was afraid for their son's lives😢
her father was the cause of it all. He was power hungry. He used his daughter as a tool. She got caught up in his plans. Lots of blame to go around. But Otto is number 1 in my book
I feel so bad for poor Helaena. She was truly innocent. She only did what her family expected of her. If they wanted a son for a son, they should have gone after Aemond.
Dosent matter. Her family shouldnt have started a war
@@envi3244 you're right. Her family. Not her. She didn't do anything wrong.
Born in the wrong side of the family. Her mother was an andal, never believed in “queer” culture of targs despite having targ husband. So otto and alicent thought she was a looney. Her absent father never gave her an attention. If only they see her as a seer.. poor bstard.
alicent thought how queer the targs are about marrying their siblings but was OK marrying her children to each other 😅
@@envi3244 that's the bs ideology of collective punishment
The north always remembers.
Creggan stark was a real man of honour for still seeing to his queen's heir to be on the throne after her death.
Can't wait to see creggan on the small screen.
I think the show will do something different with Jaehaera’s death and they will have her die a bit sooner while Alicent is still alive or they might make Alicent live slightly longer for her to hear the news that her last living descendant is dead. I think that will serve as one symbolic poetic justice of what scheming can cause devastation to your family. I think that the final death in her family will truly break Alicent and make her realize that her and her fathers plan did not come to fruition and it cost the lives of her loved ones. Because after the war, she was locked up and spending the rest of her days in Maegor’s Holdfast because her allies had turned on her and her son Aegon. She was in captivity because Tyland Lannister, a Green, wanted protection for the new regime of Aegon III, a Black. She died completely powerless than she ever was and she would have to bear the thought that even though her son wouldn’t have been the king of westeros, at least he and the rest of her children and grandchildren maybe would have been alive had they let Rhaenyra just ascend the throne without conflict. The show should defintley let Alicent still be alive during Jaehaera’s death becuase that would be a lot more poetic and hard hitting to watch that final domino of your family die in front of your eyes. And think about it the war completely decimated the entire Green faction within 4 years 129AC-133AC. So the Greens, in my opinion, definitely did not win because their goal itself was not to make sure that everyone goes by male precedent, that was just their main weapon of legitimization of their claimant Aegon to take the throne. The real ambitions of Otto and Alicent were for the Hightowers to become more powerful through the Targaryen-Hightower line to rule the Iron throne forever. The Dance of Dragons was all about the battle of the bloodline. And they completely lost that goal because thanks to their plotting their line was decimated within a pathetic 4 year timespan and Rhaenyra’s bloodline triumphed but at a great cost because the dragons went extinct but the blacks at least prevailed over the Greens and their personal pursuit of the dominating bloodline.
So the Blacks won? I always thought the Greens did. Ok, now I'm confused. I haven't read the books, only watched the show, ans read some stuff online.
@@DanceswithfishesThe blacks ultimately win due to Rhaenyra's son Aegon lll, getting the throne. In the end, the greens have no army and a huge northern army flying no colors but Rhaenyra's on the way to destroy the green remainders. The hour of the wolf occurs(Cregan Stark passing judgements) and all but 2 go to the wall. Clubfoot is executed, but I can't remember who the other was. So in the end, the Blacks win, but the new king hates dragons and the last of em, they basically die out during his reign. Can't blame him though.
@@Danceswithfishes if by win have their family destroyed then sure. By the time she is queen daemon cheated on her died, she lost all but 1 child and is then eaten. And history regards her as a traitor
@@tunedude19 traitor? That's harsh
@@Danceswithfishesin the books she was never mentioned again. Died of fever. She was just a passing thought by the writer’s POV. She was bitter and resentful, daydreaming about being a child once again reading to her king (father of viserys) tragic. But thats what happens when u lose the game
Lol. She claimed to want peace between families but in the same breath she hurt Rhae by basically saying that she shouldn't be so upset because the one who got killed was simply a bastard child which apparently means he wasn't worth much. Nah she definitely wanted a war cause that was practically a slap in the face for Rhae. She loved all her children.
Lol. You talk like Rhaenyra is some morally correct person when she's really not. When it's all said and done, both sides will commit unspeakable acts upon each other.
To be honest I actually don't know what Rhae did that was so bad for Alicent. When she married her father, Rhae was still nice to her and caring to some degree. She only got rid of Otto, but he did indeed plot against the king, wanting to plant his daughter already to the previous king. The worst crime she did was actually just being herself and overusing her power, yeah, but she did never openly did anything to Alicent. The lie about if she had slept with somebody was sadly, but a must for Rhae and understandable. Alicent was the most hurt by the bastards and the fight between the kids, but it's not like Rhae ordered it. And then it is Rhaes son who dies first.@@ninshu412
Rhaenyra didn start a war the greens did the greens betrayed her so what we talking here
It's funny bcuz she act like the Strongs weren't at least high lords they were well respected in the kingdom
@@ninshu412 alicole banging each other in the season 2 will always be funny to me. Woe is me the seductress spidey rhaenyra who stole cole’s virtue 😭 but will eat alicent’s kitty. She’s a widow! That won’t count. Never mind he is a knight!
SluttyRhaenyra a royal blood, who sleeps a lot with men, but it’s OK for alicent to fck a knight. Because duh, shes been thru a lot!
“RULES FOR THEE AND NOT FOR ME”
She tries to do the right thing but is so consumed with bitterness of the supposed betrayal when rumors started of Rhaenyra and Daemon slept together, when they didn't. When Alicent found her former friend did sleep with Criston Cole, she didn't ask 'anything' about him, just with Daemon. SO her bitterness is delusional. Glad to hear her father was beheaded, as he's the Tywin Lannister of HotD. I think as she knows what her son is already like, flashfoward when he becomes crazy, she's gonna b part of his assassination to save the kingdom before it gets worse.
Crazy how she was upset at the uncle - niece combo but not the ones of her own children sibling marriage 🙃
How HYPOCRITICAL of her 🙄💯
That's an insult to Tywin . After putting his grandson on the throne, Otto proves to be useless that even Aegon sets him aside .
Otto is not the twin of hot his the little finger of hot tywins counterpart is corlys
Honestly reading Alicent and Rhaenyras relationship through a “repressed queer” lens makes a lot of her behavior make sense. Her bitterness toward Rhaenyra not telling her about what really happened with Daemon and assuming the rumor as true is sorta outrageous. It’s more like that of a jilted lover. So you view it through her being secretly in love with Rhaenyra (and having zero idea that she is bc of the society they live in, and that it would be impossible anyway) her overreaction makes more sense, as does her carrying this bitter wound apparently years and years down the line. It’s also likely mixed up with a possible feeling of resentment at being married off to Rhaenyras father, and perceiving Rhaenyra more free than her while she has to be broodmare to an old king. I think it’s a combo of those things
Alicent ends up becoming motivated about a lot of other things later that she probably doesn’t even remember or care specifically about the Daemon thing anymore. But the root hurt I think stems from all the above deep down
They “broke up before they ever even dated and made it literally everyone else’s problem” 😂
She heard what she wants to hear
I hate Alicent, the actress does a good job though. But Rhaenyra is my Queen.
you say that until your taxes are taking all your money thanks to her
They both dumbasses to me honestly lol
For someone who caused so much unnecessary death and pain, Alicent got off rather easily instead of dying a brutal death like she deserves.
Hated her in the books but in the show she’s actually very likable. Way more empathetic
lol I still hate her
Ye shes one of my fav in the show but I hate her in the book
Damn, she must be REALLY awful in the book then lol. Can’t stand her
I felt sorry for her (in the series) up until she gave that poor girl that her own son assaulted money and moon tea as if that would erase the trauma she endured.
What else was she supposed to do? This is based on medieval Europe, not modern day America.
Imagine if Otto, you know, just didn't marry Alicent to Viserys. He was already a rich and powerful lord. Had Rhaenyra and Alicent's friendship remained, Otto would have kept an honorable position even if Corlys or Rhaenys eventually replaced him as Hand. He knew the danger he was putting his daughter and future grandchildren in, and he willingly risked it all.
Kuz that's what power hungry people do
*"What have I done but what was expected of me? Forever upholding the kingdom, the family, the law. While you flout all to do all as you please. Where is duty? Where is sacrifice? It's trampled under your pretty foot again! And now you take my son's eye, and to even that, you feel entitled!"*
Queen Pretty Feet would know all about a pretty foot.
That says it all, so jealous and unable to stand up to her father
@@BleedingGrafitti exactly what I was thinking! Lol 😂
@@nayakiabates8814yea that's exactly what she's saying and not getting sick of rhaenyra's dangerous entitlement after her kid not only took her son's eye, but wanted him tortured and their father threatened to cut off his tongue to appease the lame ass..
Right she is so jealous fitting that she's a green
All this for the Iron throne. Alicent is treacherous. She became greedy after she had her sons and felt they had the right to the throne over Rhaenyra simply because they were boys. If she mistook Viserys's last wish, then all the drama was due to one misunderstanding.
in her tv show adaptation i feel really sorry for her, she's like 15 in the first part of season 1 and she's made to have sex with a man probably three times her age and get pregnant almost instantly, break her relationship with probably her only friend and getting manipulated to do all these things by her FATHER growing to be kind of a bitter woman but still having her family only for all of your children and grandchildren die in horrific ways, almost all her life was defined by trauma
i hate otto hightower with all my heart, there's a special place in the seven hells for that monster
She could have said no married so other man. Not her best friends father. Knowing that is gonna cause issues for rhyneera
And honestly most people that age were getting married and having sex with men way older than them in that time
No they didn’t and you don’t know what your talking about.
The average marriage age at the time was the late teens to early twenties and most people married others in their age range, not someone obscenely older. Such a notion is a historic myth.
@@liafbaby7791Absolutely. And the way the showrunners depicted Alicent as knowing nothing at all what happening around her makes my blood boiling. A 15 years old girl not an 7 years old girl. She knew what was Otto plan. She knew what could happen If she serially attending the King in his bedchamber. Maybe she was young to understand how s*x is working, but the society norms and hierarchy, etc. indicating even these kind of matters too.
@@annabellad.7298but… but… my baby girl she was manipulated, poor queen has to rule westeros with her ailing husband, poor queen has to sell her feet to onlyfans, poor alicennnnntttt
I feel as though its important to mention, that the show and books are different for a reason.
The books are what the Maester's wrote, and therefore, the winners. We can see the Maester's are incredibly biased, and are willing to lie when documenting. Its the history the people ultimately know.
But, the show is what truly happened. Its an unbiased truth of the dance of the dragons, and what the people wont ever know.
The show, therefore, is more cannon than their bookish counterparts.
And its only fair to compare the books to them, not them to the books
They also lied in favor of the greens multiple times . It's not about "the winners" considering both sides objectively lost
Thank you for saying this. Most people think the book is cannon and it isn’t.
Great video, when I first started watching the show I really liked Alicent and felt a bit sorry for her but as the show went on I saw her jealousy and yes her righteousness and i started disliking her. She heard what she wanted and I believe deep down she was also power hungry. Thanks for sharing your time with us and keep the good work going 💕💕
Why doesn’t the show make sense and Rhaenrya and Alicent’s relationship and dynamic and core of conflict seem so stupid is because in the books or chronicles of the time it was clearly stated that this two women did not share a grain of care or love between them.
By 129 AC
With Rhaenrya living in dragonstone with Leanor and later with Daemon since 115AC only froze more the relationship between Rhaenrya and her haft siblings. Allowing alicent to poison Aegon, Helaena, Aemond and Daeron against their sister. Consider Rhanerya was already a mother of 2 by then with Jace being 1 and Luke just been born. While Aegon was 8, Helaena was 6, Aemond was 5 and Daeron had just been send off to old town with less than 2 years old by alicent.
When Viserys finally died alicent went all out. She put her 23 years old plan in the making. Took her 10 days to gather her green Lords which she had been collecting since Aegon was born, and prepared Aegon’s coronation which she had also prepared for the past 23 years.
So when Rhaenrya find out she wanted to go and kill them all. However, the show also Change that it was Daemon who convince Rhaenrya to not use the dragons on the greens to try the envoy. That is why he left for riverlands. However, after Luke was killed by Aemond. Rhaenrya wanted to give up but Daemon send her a raven with the word “an eye for an eye and son for son. Luke will be avenged” Daemon send for Mysaria who was in KL and hired blood and cheese.
When the greens capture blood with Jaehaerys head still in sack. Blood mention they were hired by the white wyrm “lady misery”. Mysaria flee to dragonstone where she remain until the fall of KL then she return to the red keep until her death.
Then the war fully escalated. Alicent tried mid war to try to stop and maybe even divide Westeros into two but Rhaenrya have lost too much and she wasn’t killing come to settlement.
This two women hated each other.
Alicent died regretting what happened to her kids not what happened to Rhaenrya and hers
I hope Alicent lives long enough to hear of Jaehaera's death
Poor Halena
Just found your channel and am loving the content. Keep up the good work mate. Wish you all the best 💯
I just wish someone would give her the biggest wake up call known to man and I hope it will be rhaenyera to give it to her especially when she comes to kings landing and takes her hostage rhaenyera needs to tell her the truth and she needs to hear it and perhaps a slap for her children slaughtering rhaenyera’s regardless of if it was an accident or not. The target she placed on her family’s back the moment she helped crown aegon.
Keep the peace with a lie, or go to war over the truth type of situation. Like it or not, The Iron Throne can not be handed down to bastards.
Agreed it's like everyone forgets that like I thought being a "bastard" was like the worst thing in this world than being born to the lesser folk 🤣
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Except he wasnt a bastard
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Can you do life of Tyrion Lannister
Blood and cheese are coming
Miss your videos. Hope you are well.
Never watched the series.
Idk why
I love mmorpg/rpgs and fantasy but I just ignored the series
Yt shorts suddenly shown me every important scene in the show the past few days and now I'm intrigued.
I blab on to say your lore videos are done exactly the way I like for my other favorite series and i thank you.
I'm inspired to do mmo videos after binging some vids.
Keep it up!
Tl;Dr you are awesome and inspire me
2:37 i would rather feed my sons to the dragons then have them hold shields or cups for your bumbling druken usper of a grandson- Daemon Targaryen to ser otto of the hightower
It sucks the show didn’t portray her correctly
I hate Otto he used his child like a pretty doll for luring the King. I don't think he want the Kingdoom to be in peace he want more than that he want power and Peace for Westeros but only in is term. But he was right there is no way Alicent's children would be safe if Rhaenyra is Queen.
Alisson is a great character, I hope the show Season 2 will tell a better ending for her.
Outliving children and passing the torch to Cersei.
I can’t wait for season two just a few short months 🐉🖤👑🔥
Did you read the books my guy or you just a fan of the shows?
@@TH-cam_Street_Drifter read the books loved the show so obsessed I have dragon scales on my body as well as wings and a tail
I love her so much.
I hate alicent
I feel like the show wants me to hate Alicant, but I just love her. To me she seems really kind, and she seems to genuinely want to do the right thing.
You should read the book
what? her and her father are the reason for the war in the first place.
@s_.777 Tywin Lannister wannabe lol..yeah I know he was before Tywin but still..
I felt bad cuz all her Grandchildren were killed by the blacks😢
this is cruel. she lives to see it all meant nothing on her end hahahahahahahaha
Aegon is the true king! To hell with Rhaenyra long live Aegon the true high king of Westoros.
Yes long live Aegon the king who is better at raping his maids and sending his children to the fighting pits then actually leading.
Lol
Rhaenyra is very flawed but Aegon is a drunk and a rapist. How can you support someone like that?
Dim witted individual
I wish you didn't speak so fast
Thank you for this video. I shared it with a few friends. They were so excited.!!! Wow, you need to research *promo sm*!!
I hate Alicent, the actress does a good job though. But Rhaenyra is my Queen.