New Tires Destroyed After 2 Days! RV Suspension Problems | Costly Repairs
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ต.ค. 2024
- ✔️ About the Episode:
This is Part 2 of what we call our "Tire Saga". In this episode, we take our brand new tires on a road trip from Maine to Ohio on our route to finishing the Lower 48 States. However, we quickly realized that our road trip was going to come to a complete stop very quickly. After 2 days of driving, we found our tires worn down on the inside of both rear tires on the same axle.
Yep, a classic bent axle sign and every mile leads us closer to the infamous tire "Blowout". Knowing that we have big suspension issues, we quickly get on the phone and start calling for new replacement tires. Two sets of brand new tires in only a few days. This is a costly RV suspension issue that will plague us for many more miles yet to come.
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Two words…De Walt! That’ll help with future tire changes. Tough luck on the axle y’all, but at least you’re finding good snacks along the way. Thanks for sharing.
Spam Sandwich, shred the spam with a food grater, add sweet pickle relish, mayo, mix together and slather it upon some white bread.
Epic! Thanks Tom. This is the best recipe ever. 😀
@@discoveryboundrv I lived off that stuff growing up :)
Hey Lee I feel bad for about tires, absolutely heartbreaking. To save your back and something you don’t want to have to use all the time is a Dewalt 1/2” impact driver. It has enough torque to do the camper and your truck. Better than an air wrench
Definitely a trailer repair shop, these guys are professional on trailer frames and you won’t have to wait for months. Nice video. Merry Christmas.
Great tip. It’s funny looking back on the video and asking ourselves “Why did we do that?” Live and learn, right. Thanks Bill! Merry Christmas!
Love your attitude. I love spam! One slice on a toasted English muffin with butter and melted cheddar cheese. God bless you and your family. Good luck on fixing your issue with the tires.
I love the two fur babies. We have a black, gray and white Shitzu and she is such a delightful little companion.
We had a similar problem with tire over time. We had a bad axle issue. Dealer did nothing for us, under warranty. Paid for a new axle, new tire, back on the road again. Safe travels
I have seen that map on so many videos but none say where you guys get them. Where do you get those maps with the stick on states as you travel???
I love your videos because I am going to be starting soon and it makes me think of how it is going to be for me just starting out. I will be alone and have started wondering how I am going to handle some of the things on the road, like backing into sites and stuff. You guys inspire me so much. Thank you and God Bless you and yours!
Just found your channel so I've only watched the two vids about your tire problem. first I have to say I don't know how
y'all are so upbeat and cool about this...and with 2 young'uns ....just amazing. I know UTubers vids are not posted in real time but sure wish yours weren't so far behind during this time as I have a coach and know the place that does my work up in Nappanee, IN might not have been able to fix your problem right away but I'm sure they would have diagnosed it for you. Might have been the video angle but at one point it looked to me like your axel had a slight bend in it. Wishing y'all the best and you are one lucky man to have a lady like you have sir!
Thank you so much for the great comment and warm regards. You guys are great! You are spot on with the videos. Life happens much faster than we can turn them into videos. :) We thought we would be able to find someone to help out while we were in Indiana. However, we weren't able to find anyone at all that had availability sooner than 4-6 months. We were thankful that we had someone scheduled in Michigan that would do the diagnostic for us. Thank you so much for the great support! The RV Community is, by far, the best part of RV'ing! If you don't know something, then just ask your neighbor. LOL. Thanks again and all the best, Pam & Lee
I'm sure y'all have thought this through well, but I'm curious. Why burn through two pairs of top-of-the-line tires...$1200 plus a ratchet breaker bar... to get to a Camping World?? If it's a warranty issue, couldn't you have gotten approval from Jayco or Lippert to get the work done someplace closer, like a truck-trailer axle shop perhaps? Even fronting the repair cost then waiting for a refund would be less stress/work/ulcers.
You're rocking those frameless glasses, Pam. Looking good!!!
The short answer is that we didn’t know we had a bent axle at the time and we didn’t know the tires would go bad so fast. We called over 20 places from Maine to Michigan and we couldn’t find anyone to do any repairs for 4-6 months. Camping world in Michigan was the only one to take us in 2 weeks. This was during last summer when everyone was still in the RV frenzy. Instead of loosing our reservations we just kept on our path. It would have cost us more to break existing reservations and make new ones last minute during summer rates. Also, axles are built to order. When we called Dexter it would be a 1 month build once we place the order. Hence, just get to the place we already booked and wait it out. 😀👍 More to follow.
It makes my day when you post a new video. Thanks.
We have shyed away from the upper east coast, but I think we may go that way before we get too old.
Happy you found a grassy knoll for the doggies during your stop but I think if you awakened me at 4 am you would definitely be finding my anger points. 😆
From West Virginia. Spam sliced thin, fried on toast with a little bit of mustard. Dill pickle and kettle chips. A little bit of heaven on a sandwich.
LOVE IT! That sounds like a perfect sandwich, indeed. You're making me hungry! :) Fun fact: We have a SPAM ornament in our Christmas tree this year. It's fun for the kids and we laugh about it every time we see it. LOL.
Merry Christmas guys!! My husband and I will be going full time in our RV in 2023. Hopefully we’ll see you out there somewhere. We’ll try to have some Dilly Beans to pass along to you. We are currently living in Wisconsin….I never heard of Dilly Beans until we lived here.
I just found this channel. We use to have a 40 ft rig. Had to go to Elkhart. ! Not fun! Oh in your video there’s some chem trails. Right after you talked about height! Awesome video. We bought house not traveling anymore! Fun while it lasted. Be safe! ❤
So sorry for your loss. Tires are not cheap
All that scenery sure is beautiful, I love it. I love going side roads so much better.
Lee you had me laughing out loud when on the bridge’s, I remember those time in RV’ing so well. To bad it isn’t something you could get done at a big truck repair. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 🎉to awesome family looking forward to more of your travels in the new year.
Thank you Irene! Merry Christmas to you as well. All the best during the holidays from all of us here. Pam & Lee.
Check your axles, my trailer did the same thing and turned out the axles were out of alignment, the passenger side of most trailers do. Good luck, I bent my back in place myself, kinda crazy how it's done but found someone that can do...
I really enjoy your videos. Your calm demeanor throughout your travels is amazing! (Unless you edit out the angry spots. Lol). I don’t know how you guys stay so calm when trouble comes knockin’.
And the other posts are correct- you need an impact. It’s a much easier way to remove lug nuts.
Keep the vids comin!
Thank you! Maine is funny, we took the tires off at 5AM in the morning and it looks like it was mid-day. We didn't use the drill because we didn't want to upset our neighbors. LOL. Trust us, we definitely wanted too. We did throw the 4-Way tire iron away immediately after this video. Not a great tool at all. As for the calm nature, that's real. We actually enjoy the challenges that RV Life brings our way. We have lived overseas for many years in both Europe and Middle East and we have seen it all (as they say). We like to tell people "You have waited a long time to make the mistakes you're about to make". We enjoy the adventures of discovering new things and we are thankful for the experiences. Now, that definitely doesn't mean we know what we are doing....LOL. Thanks again and safe travels. Best, Pam & Lee
Spam Musubi; spam, rice, egg, wrapped in seaweed. Don’t judge!! 😂. It’s awesome. I don’t eat rice so, I’m all about spam and eggs. Not sure many would be be able to maintain your positive attitudes. Lord I hope this ends in a good way $$ and time wise.
Hello to you all. New subscriber here...
I just found you this morning with us following a few full timers here on TH-cam for a while now. We too are now doing the fulltime adventuring for 6 months now while we "snowbird" in the desert of eastern Californian not far from the Laughlin area.
I've got to spend some of my time with the hours and hours of video I've got and get my vlog going and watching you and what you've done with your editing, music, just all you're showing here is just so impressive and amusing as well! You really are doing an amazing job as I watch only the second of my experience of your creations! (Still early on this rainy New Years Day though!)
We also have a North Point. 377RLBH 2018 with the Duramax Dually, LB,Crew and LTZ trim on it to drag this big ol' beast where ever we end up when spring time shows up again to take us to some stops, like WORLDS LARGEST BALL OF TWINE along the way to Florida. (I am one to NEED TO see the silly stuff like that!)
I can agree with the investment in the either DEWALT or, my favorite is the MILWAULKEE brands of the impact drill for the lugs on the trailer. You've save SO MUCH time and effort regardless of doing this so many times or just once in a long while.
Really am enjoying your vids and going on a little bit of a worthless day splurge so far this morning!
Always remember....
Be Happy. Be safe. Most of all.... Enjoy life the best you can. After all.... it's the only chance we all get!
Hi Chris! First off, You have great taste in RV’s. 😀 Secondly, Roadside attractions are the best part of traveling through America. They are everywhere and most of the time are a quick stop as you continue on your journey. We love them all! Great tip on the drill. Best, Lee & Pam
@@discoveryboundrv haha. Yeah.... I just saw the video when you stated the model you've got as well! I continued wondering what you had being all the windows looked very similar to the exterior on ours!
One thing about this one is the lack of storage. Now, in its defense, us having a washer/ dryer and then the dishwasher it might not be very fair of me to judge the lack of the storage concept but hey! We need to wash stuff once in a while..... RIGHT????!!!
I am still catching up, haven't found if the axle problem has been fixed but.... ???..... "stress is a good thing" some idiot once told me!!
Good luck my friend.
Thank you!
Oh no, hope y’all are ok, a shame season 4 starts with repairs, y’all are doing great 👍
Love spam and scrapple. Fried with mayonnaise and cheese…no bread. Sorry for the axle problems but like you said better safe then sorry, your family is worth millions more then $500. tires! Lee, I definitely want some Dilly Beans as well! The girls can have all the chocolate Moose poop!
We had the same thing going on with our 5th wheel, 2023 trailer. A new axle and $1150.00 later, we’re hoping it’s solved.
Time to think about independent suspension. If you're planning on keeping your fifth wheel it would be a good investment. All four wheels can be aligned like a car wheel.
We completely agree! Great tip, indeed. It's been on our wish list for a while now. :) Until then, I will be outside yelling and kicking my tires. LOL. Best, Lee
I felt bad for your problem but enjoyed your video...🤣
Merry Christmas to you all! We love your videos!
Welcome to my hometown Geneva-on-the-Lake.😁😁
How awesome is that. We had no idea where we were headed and it turned out to be n amazing time. Crossing railroad tracks was a memorable experience. We thought we were going to get stuck on the tracks. LOL. Great times all around. Best, Pam & Lee.
@@discoveryboundrv The tracks have been that way as long as I remember. Next time take route 20 east and go north on Austin road to avoid the tracks. You will end up west of Indian Creek campground. Don't forget to see the covered bridge south of Geneva on route 534. It is called the Harpersfield bridge. Do not take the fifth wheel down there since the hill is steep.
I'm 13'2" and that is bad enough. Can't imagine 13'7"! Have done a u-turn more than once because of low clearance ahead.
Oh Yes, the infamous “WHAT did that sign say?” 🤣 Glad you caught it beforehand.
I'm guessing there's about a 99% chance you have been spindles on your axle... and if you can afford it cuz I'm going to know if you're spending enough money on tires definitely get you a DeWalt or Milwaukee half inch battery powered impact and don't forget to get the torque bars as well it will make your life so much easier on changing or rotating tires in the future.. Also I'll give you guys credit from being able to to have a smile on your face and laugh about... ✌️
Or bent axle with insuficient or excess camber.
Great tips thank you
Freeze dried candy available in Southern Illinois. ALL kinds!!
Hun I’m stopping at the apple barn too get a ton of stuff with no apples in it 😂 and I got my dilly frittles omg 😱
I would have had the tires turned around on the wheels since you didn't have that many more miles to go.
Cotton Wood trees. If you look close the cotton has seeds in it.
SPAM😲 It's should only be consumed the day before Pay Day😝🤣😂Lol
Yes, a bad axle. Check your weight at a cat scale. And what size is your axle. Bad roads and a little over weight is VERY HARD on axles. Be safe. Remember, precious cargo.
Hey guys, you definitely seem to have bent axles! Not sure when you noticed this issue, why you didn’t order a replacement axel. You can get shipped in a week or two and it’s simple to replace. Would have saved all the extra tire expense!
Hi Ian! The truth is we didn't know it was a bent axle at the time. We also wanted to go through Dexter Warranty if it was a bent axle (which it was) but we had to get an inspection done on it first to process for Warranty Claim. The problem is that we spent 2 days calling around and couldn't find anyone to do the inspection. It was the summer and everyone was still in RV frenzy. Packed campgrounds and packed repair shops. The Camping World in Michigan was the only shop that would take us in within 2 weeks. The problem was that we had to get there first. We didn't know, at the time, that the tires would go bald so fast. We found that out in Ohio as you could see. LOL. All the best, Pam & Lee
Your axle is bent. It’s too weak and has flattened out changing the alignment. I just helped a friend put the bend back in his. He had the same issue. I would yours are undersized for the rig.
You have bend axles. Good luck. Love the videos
Thanks Thomas! You are spot on! We just didn't know that at the time. Having ZERO experience in RV suspension repairs, we were still in our confused stage. LOL. Best, Pam & Lee
I had uneven tire wear, found a shop that could align our axles.
We bought a freeze drier for skiddles ( and other stuff) but we are in Las Vegas
1st x viewer. New subscriber!! Solo empty nester full time RV Nomad. 2019 Jayco Northpoint 385thws 44' 11" triple axle toy hauler. Thank you for your video! I have 6 Goodyear endurance tires!! Yikes
Welcome fellow Nomad and Northpoint brother! 😀 You’ve come to the right place. LOL. Don’t worry about the tires. We shaved our Goodyear Endurance down to the cords and they didn’t blowout even with all of the weight. They are a Beast and great quality. In fact, it could have been a lot worse with other tires. We were very lucky. However, you might want to get to know your axles. Ours are 7K Dexter axles and should have been at least 8K axles. We found out the hard way. New upgraded axles are on our list for future mods, but we would always go back to the Goodyear Endurance tires. All the best, Lee & Pam.
I bought a brand new 7000 lb. Bri-Mar dump trailer.
The first time I went to dump it I noticed something was wrong with one of the axels, it was bowed in the wrong direction. (there made with a curve, so as there loaded it sits straight)
I contacted the dealer where I bought it and they where uses less!
I called Bri-Mar and they told me it was not there problem, to call Dexter.
I called Dexter, and they must have know there was an issue, because all they asked was for me to read the bar code off the axel and they would send me a new one, but would not pay to have it installed. WTH!
They had welded the brackets on the wrong side of the axel!
I also found they installed the brake wires wrong and they where crushed.
Merry Xmas!
There's an app called to go RV it's a GPS routing for campers.... You put your truck and trailer size in the app and it will avoid low bridges.. ✌️
Obviously your videos lag from shooting to posting, but darn if you didn't route through locations between this and your last video where you could have had repairs properly done at heavy truck/trailer repair shops so as to not eat tires and risk blowout... I had to have a shop do a frame repair in order for Lippert to pay for it even though I am both an engineer and certified welder, and had our coach into and out of the truck repair same week! Definitely don't think you need to go to an RV repair, and I strongly recommend not using Camping World for anything! Nonetheless, you guys haven't been RVing long and you're learning and your trials and tribulations will help others too. RV long enough, it will make you an adept repairperson as it becomes a necessity to be as self-sufficient as possible. Hopefully the next video will be of proper repairs to your Jayco! Safe journeys.
Thanks for the support. You’re completely right. No help and no idea what we were doing. We made a plan and stuck with it. At the time we didn’t know what was wrong and how bad it actually was. In Maine we said, just replace the tires and move on. It wasn’t until Cleveland that we realized we had a bigger issue. We even routed through Elkhart, IN and couldn’t find anyone to diagnose it. Everyone was booked for months. We are long past a full repair now and we laugh at ourselves, but it’s all a learning experience on the road. Everyone gets to see us clueless and unfiltered. Hopefully it will help others not make the same mistakes we did. Thanks again and all the best, Pam & Lee
Just rotate left rite side for ride home 😂
Every time you get new tires I would put the new ones on the front good axel and the older tires to the back axel at least your are getting the benefit of the new tires and when you get the axel fixt you will have new tires all around on all 4.
Ezeeee peeezeee cheezzeee mcsqueezeeee!!!
That looks like cotton from a cottonwood tree. There are lots in the Midwest and it blows in the wind in the summertime.
No spam, but I recommend Taylor Ham, lettuce, tomato, mayo on a hard roll!
You'll be screwed with Camping World. I'd be headed to the Jayco factory.
LOL. We called Jayco. They said it wasn’t their problem. They suggested we take it to a repair facility. 😀
It’s maddening about the repeated tire replacement. It’s even more maddening about how long it takes to get into a repair shop. A couple thoughts…
Have you thought about calling a mobile repair tech? Maybe they could at least diagnose what’s up and if it’s an axle they could possibly get authorization from the manufacturer to order parts.
Also you REALLY need to get yourself a cordless 1/2” impact gun. Break the lug nuts loose with a breaker bar, zip then on/off with the impact, and check with the torque wrench. Easier peasier.
Hi Shane. You are 💯 on all points. The mobile repair guys we called weren’t authorized by Dexter to perform the evaluation. It could only be someone authorized by Dexter to submit the evaluation report. Guess who was authorized…Yep, Camping World. Also, the only reason we didn’t use our impact drill was because it was earlier in the morning each time we did this and we didn’t want to wake our neighbors. LOL. Trying to be good RVers here. I hope others read this post and take notes from your suggestions. Doing it our way is absolutely NOT recommended. Best, Lee
18 wheeler Truck & Trailer repair shop can bend your axle or align them.
Thanks for the great tip Paul! At the time, we had ZERO experience in RV suspension knowledge and even less experience in fixing it. The best part is that we learn so much through the process. All the best, Pam & Lee
Needs axle job. Also I fry my spam and put it on. Roll with ketsup. Hmm.....
Now I’m hungry again. LOL. Love it! It’s definitely an axle.
Instead of a camping world what about a place that sells and installs just the axles like a suspension place
We tried several of them and we couldn’t find an RV park near the truck repair center. The axle would take a month to build from Dexter. There were no axles available. Also at the time the RV parks were booked for the summer. We were in a tough spot indeed. Best, Pam & Lee
I gave up on RV dealers and took mine to a heavy duty trailer shop. They knocked it out in 2 days..this was in the Charlotte, NC area.
Curious what shop you used? I am also in the area.
@@loydstephenson89 Golden Gate Trailers in Concord. I get parts from them, hitch installation and repairs.
Love Dilly Beans.
If your 13 foot 7 inches tall your lucky to have your AC Unit on your roof.
Hi Chad. You’re right. We had a neighbor that wasn’t so lucky. 13’ 7” is our safe zone. We see a LOT of bridges and tunnels across America. Best Pam & Lee
Poop happens! I put all new tires on my trailer, the next one was flat, I fount a screw in it, I plugged it and want to work. I get to the job and another one is flat, there was a framing nail sticking out of the side wall, WTH!.
I had to replace my truck windshield to get it inspected, had it replaced, got it inspected, crossing a bridge the very same day a truck carrying stone tossed out a rock and busted the windshield.
I couldn’t see how you jacked up the rig to change your tires on both side at once.
We did it the wrong way. We used the leveling jacks/stabilizers.
@@discoveryboundrv so how would you do it now, considering that you have to have two tires off at once?
Guaranteed you have a bent axle which can be straightened.
You are 100% correct. We just didn’t know that at the time. LOL. Best, Lee
Are your axles aligned?
... FLIP--THE--TIRES--ON--THE--RIMS ... GET 3=EXTRA=DAYS FOR EACH TIRE ...🥰😇🤪🤑
Wow !!. . . That's significant damage in such a short distance. Since it's both sides, I'd check: 1) Axle alignment: looks like the wheels are dragging. My guess is that you have loose bolts somewhere on that axle that as caused it to shift when you hit a bump. Have a mechanic check the alignment and adjust if that's the cause. 2) Have the wheel bearings and spindle nuts checked. Do the wheels have play on the spindle when they are properly torqued? I'd put my money on #1 since it seems to have happened suddenly on your way up to Bar Harbor. Also, bearings usually fail on one side or the other, not both sides at the same time. Needs proper diagnosis by a good RV/trailer mechanic ASAP. Look at your video pulling into the Arrowhead Campsite at 9:40 to 9:50. Looks like the rear axle and wheels are carrying most of the load. Are you too heavy in the rear? Maybe the front of the trailer needs to be lower if the rig is not level while driving. Just guesses on my part . . . Not sure if a bent axle would cause this type of tire wear, but can't rule that out. Hope it's only misalignment, height adjustment or weight redistribution - that would be cheapest to fix. Bent axle . . . ouch!
** It's not the tires themselves. The tire wear is the symptom not the problem itself.**
that tire damage, looks more like a bent axle. replace with stronger axles, even if custom built.
It's a lippert frame, needs axle alignment
Have seen new units with that problem
We had neighbors that had 2 bent axles in their toy hauler from their motorcycle. It taught us that what comes with the rig isn’t always what is needed for the road. Best, Lee
Didn’t you know you had a problem before you installed the new tires.
We did, but we couldn’t find anyone to help fix it. During last summer, all the repair shops were booked out for months. At the time, we didn’t know it was an axle issue. Our thought was to change the tires and get to the repair shop in Michigan. They were the only ones that would take us in within 2 weeks. We didn’t know our issue was that bad. Live and learn, right! All the best, Pam & Lee
No Harvest Host, or Boondockers membership?
I know you have solved this problem but I hope you are still not on E load rated tires. They are overloaded. Upgrade to G rated tires.
get the RV on a strate and get it line up as your RV out or line m8 all your do is wear more out so get it look at now
My money is on bent axle. 💰💸
You need to go buy lottery tickets because you are spot on. Wished we would have known that at the time. LOL.
@@discoveryboundrv shh....don't spoil the suspense.
I'm also allergic to pollen.
Lee
Milwaukee M18 FUEL Gen-2 18V Lithium-Ion Brushless Cordless Mid Torque 1/2 in. Impact Wrench. 600lb of torque.
you must have a bent axle
Well I like your videos but I guess I am going to have to pass them up from now on because TH-cam has way to many interruptions and adds that I never pay any attention to but they are annoying so goodbye and safe travels
I DONT eat;em...EVER🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
LOL
I would have turned the tires around, inside- out. You didn't have to put new ones on.
Hi Lyle, Maybe if it was just Pam and I in the truck we would have thought about that. However, with the kids we don't take any risks. We probably could have got another few hundred miles out of those tires, but we were parked for a few days and the tire shop was right around the corner. It seemed like a great plan at the time. Well, not a great financial plan. LOL. Best, Pam & Lee
Absolutely 💯% turn them around and scuff them on the other side. Would have gotten you to your destination 😉
Maybe you're adding an inch of height but you shouldn't be taller than 13' 6". I'm a truck driver and if I'm taller than 13' 6" I need a permit to be over size load
Hi Tom! From all of us here…Thank you for what you do! We appreciate it! We use 13’7” as our “comfort zone” height. I’m sure if you grabbed a tape measure we would be spot on 13’6”. At least that is what we measured last time I crawled up there. Best, Lee and Pam
I like to use Google street view to check out over passes that aren't listed in rand McNally motor carriers map. To know what the bridge height is. Either by sign on bridge or sign between bridge and nearest intersection. Sometimes you will see a truck going under the bridge. Be careful doing that because not all semi trailers are 13' 6" tall. Some are shorter in height. When all else fails. I zoom in on screen and see if it looks like it's been hit a lot.
You need to buy a tape measure
Hey Lee n Pam merry Christmas 🎄 n happy new year n awesome videos as always also get the RDS 71799 🧰 toolbox/fuel combo 97 litre for extra fuel for the truck