That WAS cool. I was mostly listening in my shop, working on the carb., muffler, and start rope assembly, on a newest(1980) of vintage Canadian made XL Automatic chain saw. I will have to watch again, as the carb. had a bent needle. I made it straight though. The bend was from being hit or dropped, so the inside was still fine. My older saws though, need parts no longer available, so this is a good solution.
It’s really nice to see a young man that knows what he is doing. I have been trying to figure out how the governor spring and linkage were supposed to be set up. This was a great help. Thank you.
I love working on those small engines and they sound great, when they are running correctly. I once built a three wheeled go-cart and I had a 3horse powered Briggs and Stratton engine on it and it ran like a top. And I got it to start on a half of a pull with the pull-rope starter. And the idle was down low enough to count the time's that the piston came up. It was barely running. Love your videos and thank you
I enjoyed this video. My grandfather operated a small machine shop, repaired mower small engines and sharpened reel mowers with a home made setup he copied from the one he saw in a large shop. He also sharpened saw blades. I now have his Atlas drill press and his Atlas lathe.
Wish I had a mechanic as good as him near me, England to Australia is a bit far to get my garden machinery serviced correctly is a bit far ! But his videos show me what to look for and how to do it a massive help, we'll done
Awesome bit of 3hp CSI 😁 it's difficult to determine what linkages should look like from the exploded dwgs. Edit: you demonstrated the primary reason I want a drill press in my little shop. I used to turn brass into pipes when I was in college, using only the drill press in the scene shop 😁
@@VintageEngineRepairsyou can get a functional mini lathe pretty cheap, I bought a Sherline probably 20+ years ago for around $400 with all the tooling I needed, even the cheap Chinese ones are tight enough for turning small parts like what you're doing. I'm working on a 2hp horizontal shaft Briggs with the vacu-jet carb and it also had no spark but I hogged out the holes on a Honda coil and it gives great spark. I'm not advocating for it, I am impatient and I work with what I have on hand, but it worked and now the points compartment is sealed up and I don't have to bother with it anymore. I really just needed to see where the governor linkage went and you helped me right off with that, thank you
Glad I came across this video. I recently got an Onan Generator and I think it has this motor on it as the design, hardware and colors match what I have. This is a great video showing the details of how to diagnose issues of the running engine. I hadn't thought about points as I haven't messed with those in almost 30 yrs. Thanks for the great video!
I have always used a business card for the gap between the coil and the flywheel. It's about 30,000 gap? And it works Everytime. And it's flexible also. Rotate the magnet side of the flywheel directly under the coil and insert the cardboard business card and,then loosen the screws that mount the coil, and the magnet draws down the pickup coil. Then tighten the coil mount screws and rotate the flywheel until the business card comes out and you will have a gap. Easy that was a trick i was taught years ago back when I was 13 years old and starting out working on small engines. Im in my 60's now and it has never failed me yet?
Those are the best. I have a large collection of Old bridge and it's amazing how they change carburetors over the years on vertical shaft and horizontal shaft engines
Is it squeeling? It’s very common. The starter mechanism needs to be cleaned as well as the crankshaft it slides on. A light coat of oil on the wick at the end of the starter too. Secondly, the balls need to be cleaned and replaced without any oil. Hope this helps!
Great video, I mentioned elsewhere that I'm working on a 2hp but I got a lot of useful information out of your video. Keep it up, you're doing great and it's well appreciated
That video sure did bring back a lot of memories. I remember upgrading to B&S's Magnatron ignition system. I think they used to rate their horsepower at 3200 rpm and govern the engines to 3500. Thanks for the memories.
That's what I would do? replace everything that doesn't look like it is not a genuine Briggs and Stratton engine part? And I liked how you tried to rebuild the needle jet. That was classic! I would like to see you rebuild my 20 horse power Kohler engine? I'm not sure if I want to take it on? Even though I have enough experience to do it? My thing is climbing trees and I have gotten away from most engine work. Having ADHD, I would have to have extreme concentration? Not to miss anything? Thanks for the video
First time seeing one of your videos. Very impressed with the camera work, editing, video quality and knowledge! Well done sir. I have no doubt your channel will really take off soon.
Awesome , I found one of those jem mots ,with the water pump attachments, of the grid living, has been made a bit more accessible, to your persistent to get it work tk y very much
2:57 my first thought was "points". It's always dirty points on these, because well, there aren't too many spots for the PulsaJet to (totally) fail, although I guess the owner found one! I really like these horizontal Briggses. Brilliant save mate!
17:40 is why you'll do well on TH-cam. There are too many people who advise to replace perfectly serviceable parts, often with inferior quality ones, just because they don't know what they're doing past basic servicing or don't know how to fix/maintain those parts. You're absolutely the best mechanic I've watched and that's saying something. Keep up the good work mate. Nice one!! Whereabouts are you based? If i ever get something i can't sort out, id love to be able to bring it to you with a couple of beers in thanks for the videos. Taryl is great, as is steves saloon. There aren't many others id watch as they either like the sound of their own voice or they're just parts changers. There's a couple of saw tuners worth watching but they can be hard work at times, despite their knowledge. Thanks again fella.
Thanks for such a kind and considered comment mate, it’s much appreciate!! Means a lot to hear it. I do understand in some cases it’s either cheaper or easier to replace parts, but I have always been interested in repairing and seeing what fixes I can do myself, when necessary. That’s where the real fun is for me :) Thanks once again! :)
I bet it’s a beautiful machine!! I have a small Chinese built one. Nothing special, but it’s been absolutely fantastic for engine repairs :) making parts that are no longer available! I’m in Perth WA, Australia!
Whoever played with it previously has used an ebay carby kit. I've purchased a few of them, the jets have never worked, I usually just use the o-rings etc and retain the original jet. The gaskets and diaphragm's that come with the kits have worked well.
I don't know that the length of the throttle linkage, is important enough that you would not want to thin and stretch the metal hammering it. Probably not enough to matter, but making it weaker and more brittle may. If you wanted to, you could get a bit of brass to set on your anvil, and use a brass hammer. This way you straighten with much less denting/thinning/stretching and case hardening of the steel. You could also heat it some and straighten with very gentle hammering, but then you will dent it. If the metal seems brittle after hammering, you can heat it and let it cool slowly, to anneal, soften. Just some thoughts as I was watching you hammer :-)
Just today I wondered why the crank didn't go on properly or spin freely. And I found out it was because of banging on the end of the shaft to get the flywheel off. I had to fine sand both surfaces to get it to slide nicely.
I've done this all my life it's an amazing life I just got done with some old two and a half horse lawn mower engines and one just like that but I want to know how to figure out the year exactly
Honda are some of the finest small engines you can buy. I do like these Briggs for their agricultural simplicity, reliability, and affordability, but as far as smooth running longevity and reliability, Honda is up there with the best - you do pay for it though.
Great video, I have one of these and a little newer version but Ive never been able to get a new diaphragm for them. When I asked at the local agent he looked at me like I was mad to think I could be a new one for a motor over 20 years old. Maybe thats not the case in the US but sure is here in New Zealand unfortunately, might have to try ebay but I dont know the exact part numbers and most stuff is Chinese from what I can see.
Yes they’re readily available :) google “Briggs and Stratton service manual look up” and then select the link to Briggs and Stratton website. From there it asks for some numbers for your model type and code. These are found on the side of your fan cover. When you type these in, it will give you the manuals you’re after to find the right diaphragm :)
Yes you can its old and built well i have the same type of motor but its a Briggs and Stratton 5 horsepower wood splitter. Trying to get it running after 20 years fog and stored it when we put it away. No spark but turns over fine
@@VintageEngineRepairs where do you get parts for these motors I am looking and it seems a lot of the newer stuff keeps coming up on line. Thanks again Kyle
Great vid the machining was very cool. Btw Tom who is your go to for briggs parts. I am also in Perth and found green acres on line store pretty good, however I have not had to purchase serious hardware
Thanks, I typically go to my local stihl dealer, but there is a shop opposite the stihl dealer in Osbourne park who has all the parts you need, on the shelf, but he’s not cheap!!
Alright mate I've got a tiller with a briggs engine. I took it apart and cleaned it up! Was running great but half way through the day it just lost power so every time you try and work with it it cuts out. Starts up again runs fine then under load just cuts out! The governor springs and throttle where never great and I would just replace the whole carb but I have no idea what parts I should be getting that will fit. It's a 111202 - 0157 - 01 - 81022601 so I am proper stumped! Rather get it going than fit a new engine on the tiller as I love the fact it's so old but does such a good job (when it works)
Hey mate! It’s so hard to say just off that information. It could be a whole heap of things. Without hearing, seeing and testing I can’t be much help sadly! You can send a video to my email of what it’s doing, try your best to get as clear of a video without shaky camera so I can really see and hear :) tomscandian@hotmail.com alternatively, even better, go to @kenssmallenginerepair at 2pm eastern states time tonight and join in the live video, a bunch of us get together and can help you trouble shoot it!
I have one of these engines on an old cultivator. Looks like a tiller but is useless as one. I have it in storage but I know the engine is good. I put a diaphragm in it....ah....could be at least 15 years ago lol Anyway it ran then. Everything needs cleaning now. I haven't had a good use for a 3HP. 5 yes. 12 yes. I have two very old 5HP engines, one on my tiller which is older, and runs very well, and the original tiller's engine, still needing some parts, but actually in better condition than its' current replacement. You have to pay a lot these days to get a well made engine like these. Now if they would just make replacement gaskets of Teflon or something that can tolerate alcohol in the fuel....or stop putting alcohol in the damn fuel! They are deliberately ruining our carbs./engines IMO.
There are Teflon diaphragms for the fuel pump section of carbs, but not for the metering diaphragms, for lawn mowers, or those older 3-5HP carbs.. The rubber just does not like alcohol. I am putting the Teflon ones in my vintage chainsaws from now on.
Hi Tom, I could not see the carb adjustments you were making at top end? Is there 2 screws, idle and top? I have a newer version of this engine 3.5 HP which is a pain to start, had new diaphragms etc but no joy, it will start on bottle fed from throat of carb but refuses on pull start with filter in place. Any pointers on what to look at please?
Don't know how I missed this the first time around watching. A few questions... Did you indeed replace that condenser with a new one? Also I didn't notice any mention of what looks like a goopy attempt to seal up where the wire goes to the condenser. That sure looks like where all the moisture is getting into the electrics of the ignition system.
I think I left it in the end as I couldn’t source one without huge expense. That goo is silicone from the factory to seal up the gap between the HT lead and the points cover :)
I’m surprised u don’t have way more subscribers than what u do. I mean u have a quality channel great content. I can see u becoming a big channel soon. Thanks 4 sharing
@@VintageEngineRepairs Really normally engines that old you have to buy from USA and its costly, my local Stihl dealer would be too lazy to research a part, I use Parts Tree in USA to get the diagram then go from there Taryl Fixes all always talks about the Parts Tree site thanks for your response though
Got the exact same engine today some guy gave me a California lawn mower with the blades but it has a brig and Stratton 3hp mower hopefully I make it run
@@VintageEngineRepairsone question bro what was that tool u used to take the big thing out to get to the spark plug ima going to need that special tool it was the round socket
It all depends what is not working specifically. I’ll try and extract as much information from the owner if possible. If not I’ll have a look around the machine first, rotate the engine, look in the tank, check the oil, air filter, the blade. See if anything is missing, untoward or incorrect. See if it will start, if not I’ll bottle feed it and go from there depending on what I find.
@@themowerman Got it. There was one of those rascals around when I was a kid but that was probably over sixty years ago and about the only thing I remember was being scared of it. Never heard of'em referred to as cylinder mowers but I don't get out much.🥴
Ahhh I don’t know, they have gone so cheap with plastic cam gears, plastic carburetors, weak metal components etc they aren’t the brand they use to be imo. Hold onto your old one, they’re in a different league!
@@VintageEngineRepairs yea! I'm thinking either putting it in an offload go kart frame or a road go kart OR just playing with the engine Edit: you took yours WAY apart, I maybe took the head off, accidentally forgetting about it for a year, put back the head on with an old head gasket (I know not meant to have a worn out head gasket) and it fired right up, we would put some paper in it and it would shoot out the exhaust, then we threw in some isopropyl alcohol instead of gas and it was 200°F hotter burning than gas, poor engine that is lasting somehow, turned the engine over like, a year later and it seemed good, I love the lil orange engine (is what I call mine)
Hello! I live in the north part of Sweden and I bought yesterday a snow blower that has a Briggs&Stratton engine, it's a 5hp. Looks kinda the same like the one you have. I have a couple of issues. I cleaned the carburator, it was very messy and dirty. I checked the fuel tank and probably some water got inside at a point and I think it got a little rusted. I'm also missing the throttle cable, I can't seem to find it anywhere. Any advice would help!
Hey :) use some vinegar and soak the fuel tank to clean a fuel tank out, also regarding the throttle cables it’s just generic solid wire with a z-bend in it :) you can buy that wire at any mechanic shop! Best of luck, they’re awesome little engines!
@@VintageEngineRepairs thanks a lot for the reply and for the advices. Yeah, my personal opinion is that these engines can live forever if you take care of them properly. Cheers!
I have a question on flywheel removal. You used a hammer on the end of the crank. Is there a concern about mushrooming the end of the crank? I noticed you had a problem putting the starter clutch back on. Am I concerned about nothing?
Only ever use a brass hammer, or the correct knock off tool from Briggs, which is… a brass cover that you hit - same thing 🤣 You won’t mushroom hardened steel with a brass hammer. The starter clutch was already stiff and had burrs from a lack of lubricant that should have been applied to the felt pad. The previous owner didn’t do this and that was the result. Word of caution, don’t hit a crankshaft that is threaded without a nut on the end even with a brass hammer, that can damage the threads!
@@VintageEngineRepairs this is an awesome video because it gives great detail on the remedy for common issues found on these 45 year old machines. Will a 2022 PowerMore be running in 2067? I doubt it. But this engine might still be running then, especially since you got rid of the points.
@@haneyoakie14 I’m a sucker for points - I like their simplicity, but electronic ignition is hard to dislike until they start putting electronic rev limiters in them!
@@VintageEngineRepairs to be honest, I was disappointed that you converted it to electronic ignition, especially after you did a great job on cleaning, diagnosing, fixing, and explaining the points ignition system. I think it is fun to retain the historical accuracy of the old equipment. I do think it depends on the end use of the equipment. If he wants to put it on his minibike and never have another ignition problem, the electronic ignition makes total sense. If it were the motor on a generator that sits for a long time and then gets called into critical use, the electronic ignition makes sense. If it is for fun and educational purposes, I love the points.
@@haneyoakie14 I understand and I’m the same, however they would have had to be brought from America which would take weeks and also be very expensive. Some decisions have to be made logically rather that from the heart right!
ran into this site with lots of digging, have the similar motor on my lawn thatcher but is a 5 hp and the choke that is connected to the governor spring in sections 1:30 to 1:35 is totally frozen and can not pull it out to no avail. With some starting fluid the machine can start and runs strong. Just can not pull out that choke for the life of me. Any help you could give me would be of great value. Thanks
@@VintageEngineRepairs tried some carburetor cleaner and that didn’t seem to loosen it up. I used a pair of vice grips to try to pull it or twist a little bit to see if I could get it to move. Still frozen little starting fluid in the carburetor and the machine ran for hours with no issues. But even after using it, it still wouldn’t come loose turn twist at all to try to loosen to pull it out. When I put it away last year, it was free with no issues.
@@VintageEngineRepairs yes last year slid in and out no issues engine ran fine this year tried to pull it out frozen solid vice grips. Nothing twist turn pull out nothing carburetor cleaner. Nothing little starting fluid ran like a top, but still stuck after hours of running.
I’m trying to find out the type of Briggs & Stratton engine is very difficult because it’s been painted by the person that I got it from before it’s all black and beat up, any idea what the bolt pattern is on a 5 hp motor like this?
Oh you limeys are a riot snd your kings english. A reel mower is a Cylinder mower 🤣. Makes perfect sense actually, learned a new one today. I have two Mclean cylinder mowers with these old briggs with pulse jets. The damn governmor spring is a pia. I converted mine to run on propane much easier than dealing with the carb and the propane keeps them clean inside, oil always looks perfect. Did the same with my riding mower. Got tired of dealing with the ethanol gas here. Now at least you can find non ethanol at various stations again.
They’re awesome machines. Besides the thin rails on the SB, they’re my favourite cylinder mower. Nicest intermediate clutch pull, simple to work on and easy to adjust.
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20:40 that is the coolest thing I have seen this week. Machining that tip was genius.
Thanks :) I’m pleased with the result!
That WAS cool. I was mostly listening in my shop, working on the carb., muffler, and start rope assembly, on a newest(1980) of vintage Canadian made XL Automatic chain saw.
I will have to watch again, as the carb. had a bent needle. I made it straight though. The bend was from being hit or dropped, so the inside was still fine. My older saws though, need parts no longer available, so this is a good solution.
That sounds like a homelite XL automatic I used to have one of those, they were great saws. And they had good torque to them also
It’s really nice to see a young man that knows what he is doing. I have been trying to figure out how the governor spring and linkage were supposed to be set up. This was a great help. Thank you.
Thanks for the kind words, glad the video helped :)
Funny, I'm working on a 2hp and I needed to see the same thing
Nice bit of machine work I mean chucking that up and truing it up that was brilliant 👍👍👍 Can't ask for better man !!!
Thanks Bill :) I appreciate the kind words!
I love working on those small engines and they sound great, when they are running correctly. I once built a three wheeled go-cart and I had a 3horse powered Briggs and Stratton engine on it and it ran like a top. And I got it to start on a half of a pull with the pull-rope starter. And the idle was down low enough to count the time's that the piston came up. It was barely running. Love your videos and thank you
That’s awesome :) thanks for sharing!
I enjoyed this video. My grandfather operated a small machine shop, repaired mower small engines and sharpened reel mowers with a home made setup he copied from the one he saw in a large shop. He also sharpened saw blades. I now have his Atlas drill press and his Atlas lathe.
Awesome, thanks for sharing! 👍🏻👍🏻
I have this engine on my 1963 Jacobsen reel self propelled mower still starts on second pull runs beautifully and lawn looks like a putting green !!
That’s awesome!
Watched the whole thing! Thanks for your hard work. Nothing like a true tinker
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it :)
Awesome. How satisfying getting these things running again.
Couldn't agree more!
Wish I had a mechanic as good as him near me, England to Australia is a bit far to get my garden machinery serviced correctly is a bit far ! But his videos show me what to look for and how to do it a massive help, we'll done
Thanks for the kind words :) I really appreciate it!!
@@VintageEngineRepairs well deserved
Awesome bit of 3hp CSI 😁 it's difficult to determine what linkages should look like from the exploded dwgs.
Edit: you demonstrated the primary reason I want a drill press in my little shop. I used to turn brass into pipes when I was in college, using only the drill press in the scene shop 😁
Hahah thanks Stella :) yes it’s very useful!! I’d love a mini metal lathe, but that won’t happen any time soon, the drill press will have to do 😂
@@VintageEngineRepairsyou can get a functional mini lathe pretty cheap, I bought a Sherline probably 20+ years ago for around $400 with all the tooling I needed, even the cheap Chinese ones are tight enough for turning small parts like what you're doing. I'm working on a 2hp horizontal shaft Briggs with the vacu-jet carb and it also had no spark but I hogged out the holes on a Honda coil and it gives great spark. I'm not advocating for it, I am impatient and I work with what I have on hand, but it worked and now the points compartment is sealed up and I don't have to bother with it anymore. I really just needed to see where the governor linkage went and you helped me right off with that, thank you
I now have one haha :) it’s been fantastic!
Glad I came across this video. I recently got an Onan Generator and I think it has this motor on it as the design, hardware and colors match what I have. This is a great video showing the details of how to diagnose issues of the running engine.
I hadn't thought about points as I haven't messed with those in almost 30 yrs. Thanks for the great video!
Thanks for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed it :)
Awesome Tom. Love the custom fabricated main jet. Pretty cool.
Thanks Patrick! I’m pleased It worked so well :)
I have always used a business card for the gap between the coil and the flywheel. It's about 30,000 gap? And it works Everytime. And it's flexible also. Rotate the magnet side of the flywheel directly under the coil and insert the cardboard business card and,then loosen the screws that mount the coil, and the magnet draws down the pickup coil. Then tighten the coil mount screws and rotate the flywheel until the business card comes out and you will have a gap. Easy that was a trick i was taught years ago back when I was 13 years old and starting out working on small engines. Im in my 60's now and it has never failed me yet?
Yes you can, I prefer to use a gauge as I work on so many engines it just makes sense :)
Those are the best. I have a large collection of Old bridge and it's amazing how they change carburetors over the years on vertical shaft and horizontal shaft engines
awesome :)
Great video, I have the exact motor to work. You gave us the confidence to try to repair it.
That’s awesome! Pleased to hear it :)
same here. Have the pull start issue and seems like the carb needs some love.
Is it squeeling? It’s very common. The starter mechanism needs to be cleaned as well as the crankshaft it slides on. A light coat of oil on the wick at the end of the starter too. Secondly, the balls need to be cleaned and replaced without any oil. Hope this helps!
Such an enjoyable video. I love seeing old engines given a new life. And what a beautiful job you did on that jet needle.
Thank you Peter! I really appreciate it!
@@VintageEngineRepairs My pleasure! Greetings from Sydney.
Greetings from WA :)
Great video, I mentioned elsewhere that I'm working on a 2hp but I got a lot of useful information out of your video. Keep it up, you're doing great and it's well appreciated
Thank you! I appreciate it :)
That video sure did bring back a lot of memories. I remember upgrading to B&S's Magnatron ignition system. I think they used to rate their horsepower at 3200 rpm and govern the engines to 3500. Thanks for the memories.
That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing:)
Great job straightening that link. The engine really runs good.
Thank you!
27:20 that sound of the 2-3 HP Briggs is one of the nicest sounds in the small engine world.
Haha thanks and thanks for the comments :) hopefully you caught my reply about the hammer on the crank shaft!
@@VintageEngineRepairsexcellent point on the brass hammer. I need to get one. I did mine recently with a block of wood and a regular hammer.
Great video Tom, and really helpful information for anyone with engines like this 👍
Thanks Nev! :) much appreciated buddy
That's what I would do? replace everything that doesn't look like it is not a genuine Briggs and Stratton engine part? And I liked how you tried to rebuild the needle jet. That was classic! I would like to see you rebuild my 20 horse power Kohler engine? I'm not sure if I want to take it on? Even though I have enough experience to do it? My thing is climbing trees and I have gotten away from most engine work. Having ADHD, I would have to have extreme concentration? Not to miss anything? Thanks for the video
Thanks for watching and commenting :) I have too many projects on at the moment to take another 🤣👍
First time seeing one of your videos. Very impressed with the camera work, editing, video quality and knowledge! Well done sir. I have no doubt your channel will really take off soon.
Thank you!! :) I really appreciate it!
Awesome , I found one of those jem mots ,with the water pump attachments, of the grid living, has been made a bit more accessible, to your persistent to get it work tk y very much
Thanks for the kind words!
I liked it very much I’m working on an older model Briggs very helpful thank you
awesome, they’re great machines!
I also appreciate the response to the comments and the advice that you give? It is greatly appreciated
You’re very welcome! Thanks for watching :)
Nice job Tom I've got a part two with one of these gorgeous girls
I look forward to seeing it Rob :) thanks for watching!
Great job Tom. Love the fact that you repair rather than replace
Thanks for watching Al :) glad you enjoy my content!
Well done Tom very clear and good video angles on this one with top quality audio. You keep getting better with every video produced keep er going eh!
Thank you Wayne, that’s much appreciated :)
Legendary, Brilliant to see skill at work, greetings from Australia
Thank you! :)
2:57 my first thought was "points". It's always dirty points on these, because well, there aren't too many spots for the PulsaJet to (totally) fail, although I guess the owner found one! I really like these horizontal Briggses. Brilliant save mate!
Thanks mate :) much appreciated!
Very thorough Tom, Love the clear closeups! Good job!
Thanks Kenny! I hope you enjoy the second half of the video too!
Love the Vertical lathe! Nice recovery Tom, sounds sweet!
@@KensSmallEngineRepair thanks Kenny!!
Lovin your videos keep ‘em coming
Thank you :)
Im currently restoring one these on a moto mower snow blower but i'm doing the coil upgrade to do away with the points and condenser
Yeah they’re very reliable ! Enjoy 👍👍
17:40 is why you'll do well on TH-cam.
There are too many people who advise to replace perfectly serviceable parts, often with inferior quality ones, just because they don't know what they're doing past basic servicing or don't know how to fix/maintain those parts.
You're absolutely the best mechanic I've watched and that's saying something.
Keep up the good work mate.
Nice one!!
Whereabouts are you based?
If i ever get something i can't sort out, id love to be able to bring it to you with a couple of beers in thanks for the videos.
Taryl is great, as is steves saloon.
There aren't many others id watch as they either like the sound of their own voice or they're just parts changers.
There's a couple of saw tuners worth watching but they can be hard work at times, despite their knowledge.
Thanks again fella.
There's a lovely looking myford ml6 for sale very cheap near me.
Looks like you could make use of it!!
Thanks for such a kind and considered comment mate, it’s much appreciate!! Means a lot to hear it. I do understand in some cases it’s either cheaper or easier to replace parts, but I have always been interested in repairing and seeing what fixes I can do myself, when necessary. That’s where the real fun is for me :)
Thanks once again! :)
I bet it’s a beautiful machine!! I have a small Chinese built one. Nothing special, but it’s been absolutely fantastic for engine repairs :) making parts that are no longer available! I’m in Perth WA, Australia!
@@VintageEngineRepairs ah sweet as!!
Im down south but come up to the big smoke occasionally.
How do I track you down if i need your services?
Ah awesome, that’s good :) best to email me and I can forward my details to you! Tomscandian@hotmail.com
"and there's your dinner"
Ha! Love Taryl and gang!
Whoever played with it previously has used an ebay carby kit. I've purchased a few of them, the jets have never worked, I usually just use the o-rings etc and retain the original jet. The gaskets and diaphragm's that come with the kits have worked well.
Ah how interesting! Thanks for letting me know, I’m glad I changed out the diaphragm - I try to avoid AM where possible :)
I don't know that the length of the throttle linkage, is important enough that you would not want to thin and stretch the metal hammering it. Probably not enough to matter, but making it weaker and more brittle may. If you wanted to, you could get a bit of brass to set on your anvil, and use a brass hammer. This way you straighten with much less denting/thinning/stretching and case hardening of the steel. You could also heat it some and straighten with very gentle hammering, but then you will dent it. If the metal seems brittle after hammering, you can heat it and let it cool slowly, to anneal, soften.
Just some thoughts as I was watching you hammer :-)
Should have watched further what?
👍👍
Cheerios and a chap chap my good fellow, you're video helped me greatly many thanks.
Hahah you’re welcome.
Just today I wondered why the crank didn't go on properly or spin freely. And I found out it was because of banging on the end of the shaft to get the flywheel off. I had to fine sand both surfaces to get it to slide nicely.
Yep! They can mushroom when impacted, even with a brass hammer!
I've done this all my life it's an amazing life I just got done with some old two and a half horse lawn mower engines and one just like that but I want to know how to figure out the year exactly
They’re awesome machines aren’t they!
Had Briggs but went with Honda... worth the extra money.
Honda are some of the finest small engines you can buy. I do like these Briggs for their agricultural simplicity, reliability, and affordability, but as far as smooth running longevity and reliability, Honda is up there with the best - you do pay for it though.
Hi had the same engine on cemetery grave pump night mare 2 start just before a funeral regards
Thanks for watching and sharing :) These engines should start easily if they are looked after, probably the easiest starting machine in my opinion
Nice job, and nice Dawn vice. And there's your dinner.. woooooooo weeeeeeeee
Thanks! :) gota love Taryl and gang!!
Great video, I have one of these and a little newer version but Ive never been able to get a new diaphragm for them. When I asked at the local agent he looked at me like I was mad to think I could be a new one for a motor over 20 years old. Maybe thats not the case in the US but sure is here in New Zealand unfortunately, might have to try ebay but I dont know the exact part numbers and most stuff is Chinese from what I can see.
Yes they’re readily available :) google “Briggs and Stratton service manual look up” and then select the link to Briggs and Stratton website. From there it asks for some numbers for your model type and code. These are found on the side of your fan cover. When you type these in, it will give you the manuals you’re after to find the right diaphragm :)
Yes you can its old and built well i have the same type of motor but its a Briggs and Stratton 5 horsepower wood splitter. Trying to get it running after 20 years fog and stored it when we put it away. No spark but turns over fine
Clean the points :)
@@VintageEngineRepairs where do you get parts for these motors I am looking and it seems a lot of the newer stuff keeps coming up on line. Thanks again Kyle
Generally online :)
Great vid the machining was very cool. Btw Tom who is your go to for briggs parts. I am also in Perth and found green acres on line store pretty good, however I have not had to purchase serious hardware
Thanks, I typically go to my local stihl dealer, but there is a shop opposite the stihl dealer in Osbourne park who has all the parts you need, on the shelf, but he’s not cheap!!
Alright mate I've got a tiller with a briggs engine. I took it apart and cleaned it up! Was running great but half way through the day it just lost power so every time you try and work with it it cuts out. Starts up again runs fine then under load just cuts out! The governor springs and throttle where never great and I would just replace the whole carb but I have no idea what parts I should be getting that will fit. It's a 111202 - 0157 - 01 - 81022601 so I am proper stumped! Rather get it going than fit a new engine on the tiller as I love the fact it's so old but does such a good job (when it works)
Hey mate! It’s so hard to say just off that information. It could be a whole heap of things. Without hearing, seeing and testing I can’t be much help sadly! You can send a video to my email of what it’s doing, try your best to get as clear of a video without shaky camera so I can really see and hear :) tomscandian@hotmail.com alternatively, even better, go to @kenssmallenginerepair at 2pm eastern states time tonight and join in the live video, a bunch of us get together and can help you trouble shoot it!
I have one of these engines on an old cultivator. Looks like a tiller but is useless as one. I have it in storage but I know the engine is good. I put a diaphragm in it....ah....could be at least 15 years ago lol Anyway it ran then. Everything needs cleaning now. I haven't had a good use for a 3HP. 5 yes. 12 yes. I have two very old 5HP engines, one on my tiller which is older, and runs very well, and the original tiller's engine, still needing some parts, but actually in better condition than its' current replacement. You have to pay a lot these days to get a well made engine like these. Now if they would just make replacement gaskets of Teflon or something that can tolerate alcohol in the fuel....or stop putting alcohol in the damn fuel! They are deliberately ruining our carbs./engines IMO.
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There are Teflon diaphragms for the fuel pump section of carbs, but not for the metering diaphragms, for lawn mowers, or those older 3-5HP carbs.. The rubber just does not like alcohol. I am putting the Teflon ones in my vintage chainsaws from now on.
You need a knob of axle grease on the cam between the points to prevent wearing of the points
Absolutely 👍🏻
Hi Tom, I could not see the carb adjustments you were making at top end? Is there 2 screws, idle and top?
I have a newer version of this engine 3.5 HP which is a pain to start, had new diaphragms etc but no joy, it will start on bottle fed from throat of carb but refuses on pull start with filter in place. Any pointers on what to look at please?
Hey, yep! It’s the idle adjustment at the top and the one below that is the main full supply. Turn that out 1/4 to 1/2, a turn and see how you go :)
Don't know how I missed this the first time around watching. A few questions... Did you indeed replace that condenser with a new one? Also I didn't notice any mention of what looks like a goopy attempt to seal up where the wire goes to the condenser. That sure looks like where all the moisture is getting into the electrics of the ignition system.
I think I left it in the end as I couldn’t source one without huge expense. That goo is silicone from the factory to seal up the gap between the HT lead and the points cover :)
Poking a screwdriver through the flywheel fins to hold the crank was known as a hanging offence in our workshop !!
I live life on the edge 😏🤣👍
just out of interest whats a better method?
@@defenda1 The correct tool is called a flywheel holder. Far safer and smarter to use one than my hack method here.
You're a surgeon. I got the same motor out of someone's trash. It will sit in my cargo trailer to push my bicycle. Thanks.
Thanks for the kind words :)
Do you know how to replace or retrofit if all your tabs are broken off on the metal housing that holds the pulley ?
You could tig weld them back on 👍🏻👍🏻
I’m surprised u don’t have way more subscribers than what u do. I mean u have a quality channel great content. I can see u becoming a big channel soon. Thanks 4 sharing
That’s really kind, thank you!
Great comitment to your work, where did you buy the parts may I ask
Thanks! From a shop in Perth city Australia :)
@@VintageEngineRepairs Really normally engines that old you have to buy from USA and its costly, my local Stihl dealer would be too lazy to research a part, I use Parts Tree in USA to get the diagram then go from there Taryl Fixes all always talks about the Parts Tree site thanks for your response though
Yeah this guy has all these old Briggs parts. Expect to sell your kidney to fund it though LOL
Got the exact same engine today some guy gave me a California lawn mower with the blades but it has a brig and Stratton 3hp mower hopefully I make it run
Nice :) they’re awesome machines!!
@@VintageEngineRepairsone question bro what was that tool u used to take the big thing out to get to the spark plug ima going to need that special tool it was the round socket
@@MyRcGoSlow hey mate have you got a time stamp?
@@VintageEngineRepairs3:39 thanks bro appreciate it
www.amazon.com/Briggs-Stratton-19244-Starter-Replaces/dp/B005F6PYVO
Great job Tom Mate
Thanks Conker :)
I’ve been watching u a while What procedure do u use when u first get a mower in that’s not working properly.
It all depends what is not working specifically. I’ll try and extract as much information from the owner if possible. If not I’ll have a look around the machine first, rotate the engine, look in the tank, check the oil, air filter, the blade. See if anything is missing, untoward or incorrect. See if it will start, if not I’ll bottle feed it and go from there depending on what I find.
Great info thanks
You’re welcome!
Good job there Tom.Theres your dinner.
Thanks Pete :)
Is there a website to find Parts for these old motors I’m working on a 1966 huffy lawnmower with a 5 hp Briggs & Stratton
There isn’t that I know of here in Australia, but maybe in the USA! I just call around different shops :)
What is the model of this engine? i have the exact same one, looking for part numbers for the governor spring and the flapper gasket.
The codes you need are written on the side of the cowling (cover )
Cylinder mower? Is that the same as a reel mower?
Morning! 👍🍻
That’s right William :)
@@themowerman Got it. There was one of those rascals around when I was a kid but that was probably over sixty years ago and about the only thing I remember was being scared of it. Never heard of'em referred to as cylinder mowers but I don't get out much.🥴
You scare me starting that on that super dry pine needles and a squeeze bottle of gas.
Thanks for your concern 👍🏻👍🏻
You'll get it going
Thanks Dennis :)
What were these engines primarily used for?
Any small machine really, lawn mower, rototillers, cement mixers, snow blowers
Love it!!!
Thanks!
I have the exact same engine, instead of having the 3hp sticker it said jacobsens, it was because it was on a jacobsens lawn equipment tool
Great engines aren’t they!
@@VintageEngineRepairs yep! They still make good engines, I think
Ahhh I don’t know, they have gone so cheap with plastic cam gears, plastic carburetors, weak metal components etc they aren’t the brand they use to be imo. Hold onto your old one, they’re in a different league!
@@VintageEngineRepairs yea! I'm thinking either putting it in an offload go kart frame or a road go kart OR just playing with the engine
Edit: you took yours WAY apart, I maybe took the head off, accidentally forgetting about it for a year, put back the head on with an old head gasket (I know not meant to have a worn out head gasket) and it fired right up, we would put some paper in it and it would shoot out the exhaust, then we threw in some isopropyl alcohol instead of gas and it was 200°F hotter burning than gas, poor engine that is lasting somehow, turned the engine over like, a year later and it seemed good, I love the lil orange engine (is what I call mine)
Hello! I live in the north part of Sweden and I bought yesterday a snow blower that has a Briggs&Stratton engine, it's a 5hp. Looks kinda the same like the one you have. I have a couple of issues. I cleaned the carburator, it was very messy and dirty. I checked the fuel tank and probably some water got inside at a point and I think it got a little rusted. I'm also missing the throttle cable, I can't seem to find it anywhere. Any advice would help!
Hey :) use some vinegar and soak the fuel tank to clean a fuel tank out, also regarding the throttle cables it’s just generic solid wire with a z-bend in it :) you can buy that wire at any mechanic shop! Best of luck, they’re awesome little engines!
@@VintageEngineRepairs thanks a lot for the reply and for the advices. Yeah, my personal opinion is that these engines can live forever if you take care of them properly. Cheers!
Where to get coil\points\capacitor for old b&s 8 up motor?
Online :)
I have a question on flywheel removal. You used a hammer on the end of the crank. Is there a concern about mushrooming the end of the crank? I noticed you had a problem putting the starter clutch back on. Am I concerned about nothing?
Only ever use a brass hammer, or the correct knock off tool from Briggs, which is… a brass cover that you hit - same thing 🤣
You won’t mushroom hardened steel with a brass hammer.
The starter clutch was already stiff and had burrs from a lack of lubricant that should have been applied to the felt pad. The previous owner didn’t do this and that was the result. Word of caution, don’t hit a crankshaft that is threaded without a nut on the end even with a brass hammer, that can damage the threads!
@@VintageEngineRepairs this is an awesome video because it gives great detail on the remedy for common issues found on these 45 year old machines. Will a 2022 PowerMore be running in 2067? I doubt it. But this engine might still be running then, especially since you got rid of the points.
@@haneyoakie14 I’m a sucker for points - I like their simplicity, but electronic ignition is hard to dislike until they start putting electronic rev limiters in them!
@@VintageEngineRepairs to be honest, I was disappointed that you converted it to electronic ignition, especially after you did a great job on cleaning, diagnosing, fixing, and explaining the points ignition system. I think it is fun to retain the historical accuracy of the old equipment. I do think it depends on the end use of the equipment. If he wants to put it on his minibike and never have another ignition problem, the electronic ignition makes total sense. If it were the motor on a generator that sits for a long time and then gets called into critical use, the electronic ignition makes sense. If it is for fun and educational purposes, I love the points.
@@haneyoakie14 I understand and I’m the same, however they would have had to be brought from America which would take weeks and also be very expensive. Some decisions have to be made logically rather that from the heart right!
So - where on line can someone find a repair/parts manual to download for this??
Briggs and Strattons own website, you just put in the model type and code 👍
ran into this site with lots of digging, have the similar motor on my lawn thatcher but is a 5 hp and the choke that is connected to the governor spring in sections 1:30 to 1:35 is totally frozen and can not pull it out to no avail. With some starting fluid the machine can start and runs strong. Just can not pull out that choke for the life of me. Any help you could give me would be of great value. Thanks
Without seeing it it’s hard to say, have you tried a little heat after removing all rubber / plastic?
@@VintageEngineRepairs tried some carburetor cleaner and that didn’t seem to loosen it up. I used a pair of vice grips to try to pull it or twist a little bit to see if I could get it to move. Still frozen little starting fluid in the carburetor and the machine ran for hours with no issues. But even after using it, it still wouldn’t come loose turn twist at all to try to loosen to pull it out. When I put it away last year, it was free with no issues.
@@sporttman6315 seems like rust, but man it sounds tough!!!
@@VintageEngineRepairs yes last year slid in and out no issues engine ran fine this year tried to pull it out frozen solid vice grips. Nothing twist turn pull out nothing carburetor cleaner. Nothing little starting fluid ran like a top, but still stuck after hours of running.
I’m trying to find out the type of Briggs & Stratton engine is very difficult because it’s been painted by the person that I got it from before it’s all black and beat up, any idea what the bolt pattern is on a 5 hp motor like this?
How small is the gap between the anvil and hammer?
0.02” / 0.5mm 👍👍
28:47 there you go get the screwdriver on that jet
Yep :)
I love small engines
Nice :) welcome to my page!
the way you're running it the dirt the flywheel magnet is going to be caked with iron sand .
Its all ok
Oh you limeys are a riot snd your kings english. A reel mower is a Cylinder mower 🤣. Makes perfect sense actually, learned a new one today. I have two Mclean cylinder mowers with these old briggs with pulse jets. The damn governmor spring is a pia. I converted mine to run on propane much easier than dealing with the carb and the propane keeps them clean inside, oil always looks perfect. Did the same with my riding mower. Got tired of dealing with the ethanol gas here. Now at least you can find non ethanol at various stations again.
Hey mate, yeah I call them both - cylinder and reel lol. That’s interesting! Do you have a video of them running on propane?? Thanks for sharing!
@@VintageEngineRepairs i just made the short propane conversion video.
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@@VintageEngineRepairs i just made the short propane conversion video.
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i had one of these B&S on my roller mower. fyi crows remember faces and are a pest to everyone who grows.
Brilliant machines! Yeah they’re very smart.
I have same engine on scot bonner brigs and straton 45 she is still going
They’re awesome machines. Besides the thin rails on the SB, they’re my favourite cylinder mower. Nicest intermediate clutch pull, simple to work on and easy to adjust.
Only runs on the bottle you should have opened up the main jet.
Thanks for watching
Why not just replace the existing points with an electronic ignition coil…..cheap and easy
I can’t remember what I did in the end! I think I may have done? I’d have to rewatch the video
not Kamala ad. She is so lame
Urgh they just can’t keep politics away, even from a mechanics channel! Rest assured, I won’t ever discuss it lol