I'm a Snapdragon 870 user yet, 8 Gen 3 seems to be a good chip, but now I'll wait for Oryon-based chips to upgrade. I really hope Qualcomm bring Oryon cores to a possible 7+ Gen 4, that's the one I would upgrade for.
Real usage its worst than 8gen2. :) 8gen3 its 8gen2 oc, with 3nm+ about 20% better but -40% efficient. Thats why 8gen2 the best. Check power consumption. 😊
@@furieux6742they use newer core designs tho and they added a core to cluster1 while taking one away from the efficiency cores the sd 8 gen 3 performs better than the sd 8 gen 2 but at peak the sd 8 gen 2 can't even reach the power consumption is way higher (similar story with a17)
My expectations were low for 8 Gen 3, only expecting an incremental improvement, a squeezing toothpaste, as I was excited for Oryon-powered 8 Gen 4. But goddamn, Qualcomm. god fkn damn.
Qualcomm is using all they have about the arm public core architecture on the 8 gen 3 as it would be no use when their 8 gen 4 with their own architecture comes out
Hello Engineers you have created great content so far but due to the language barrier a lot of people can not access the content of your videos your channel has a huge untapped potential.
Yunfei（Geekerwan's English channel host）was in the US when making this video so the English version can't be released at the first time just wait a few days,he's about to return to China
@@user-vl1yd1hs3k that is true and I am using that. I don't understand Chinese/mandrin. But if the content was in English it would be easier to understand especially the technical stuff.
Apple's MT and GPU leads are gone, all they retain is single core and the margin is narrowing substantially. I wonder if they can ever separate themselves from the pack again, or this is like the Zen moment of CPU convergence where AMD and Intel have just stuck close since.
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每次新手机CPU/soc出来的时候第一时间搜你们的节目看测评，客观准确，没有废话，强！
Your videos are THE BEST! The Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 is crazy impressive!
Thank you so much for adding English subs. You all really are the best tech channel on TH-cam
也是bilibili最好的科技频道
Thank you for the excellent review 👏
太棒了 雖然我是果粉 但很樂見安卓陣營超車蘋果！
不然近幾年蘋果真的都靠著老本一直在擠牙膏
軟體跟硬體都大不如前以外，很多功能也不下放
讓蘋果有危機感他們才會進步！！！
蘋果a系cpu工程師在19年走了，21年開公司，22年被高通收購了。😊
是这个道理，希望苹果有点危机感
可悲果粉只會繼續在ios圈安逸，沒辦法改了，他的功能早已是配屬價值，先不論你在夜店這種低消費層次的社交族群，貴許多的酒店一樣也是滿滿哀鳳，他們是為了炫耀嗎，某個程度上也不是，是因為很大族群的社交圈就是用這類東西，他們不在乎遊戲拍照多強，只在乎我身旁的大家是不是都在用這種「產品」
白話文：當一個品牌價值大於功能的時候，那族群分佈本身就是這個體系的，安卓再怎麼改他們也不會換，而這些族群消費能力剛好有很強，畢竟強消費不在乎CP只在乎VP，這就是消費生態有趣的地方
@@yang62696这是真的吗哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈没想到
yay! English subtitles!!
You're amazing Geekerwan! 😊
I was looking for your 8 gen 3 review and dound it here in the chinese channel. Good thing this chip wont disappoint us!
終於等到極客灣的8g3影片了！
THANK YOU SIR, THIS CHANNEL IS UNBELIEVABLY HELPFUL! 8GEN3 IS A BEAST!
希望能測試看看carx street 雖然說不算大眾，但還是喜歡能看到，畢竟那款也蠻吃效能的。
評測專業度讚
不错啊，等看看后续什么机型搭载
高通自研构架的CPU看着着实有点太美好了，这个他们会给测试机一类的吗，好期待极客湾能测一测看看实际情况到底如何
thanks for subtitles ❤
頭香，期待
頭香，B站剛看完就上片了
好厉害，希望苹果也努力
超有效率的
期待下一部整活測試進一步了解8gen3的極限，也期待紅魔9的評測地表最強的電競手機
星铁估计可以60帧运行了
還有RO G8
@@paulliu5176那时就真正的征服
有內建風扇，溫度牆調高，在高溫環境當然強。高溫度牆設計，沒上風扇，電池很快就壞了。經典之作，1+舊機型7 pro跑原神燙爆又順，電池一年多就鼓包了
@@user-ny5ek5dn5j 👍
期待早日出小米14和一加12的对比测评
厲害, 要是放到VR眼鏡上應該很有潛力？
感謝極客灣的專業評測，這才是真正的遙遙領先啊！
敌人的装备遥遥领先有什么值得高兴的呢？
@@zangdahe6913台積電製造的晶片算的人嗎？🤔
@@zangdahe6913敵人？ 😂 你的敵人是全世界唷😂
@@zangdahe6913 谁是敌人？小米跟高通互持股份
= =?
Nice with captions [E]
Thank you
Хороший обзор. Спасибо парни!
太棒了！十几年苹果老用户了，最近一直在犹豫要不要换安卓，只是我的账号深度绑定苹果实在是不好换，骁龙8gen3出来绝对可以威胁苹果，苹果再也不能自视甚高挤牙膏了！
Nice presentation 🐐
應該測試下 麥塊（我的世界）的Deferred Technical Preview和戰車世界高畫質+HD PBR紋理
大家做好心理准备，明年一定蹦。好好珍惜今年的大爆发
邊框感覺跟13一樣 只有下巴變窄 但螢幕變好了還是好評!!
小米14还是很值得买的
❤❤❤❤感謝
看來我的9T pro(k20)能換掉了
第一台手機用820,後來懂手機，幹上了賊船
所以新架構推出，我都會等他的改良版
難怪庫克趕緊賣走自己的股票😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
8Gen3真香，過了幾年好像又可以回來買安卓手機了。
哈哈, 看到了老罗当年的 keynote 特效
能不能评测一下AYN家的掌机奥丁2?
I'm a Snapdragon 870 user yet, 8 Gen 3 seems to be a good chip, but now I'll wait for Oryon-based chips to upgrade. I really hope Qualcomm bring Oryon cores to a possible 7+ Gen 4, that's the one I would upgrade for.
7 gen 5 in 2025 or 2026 for poco f7 or f8 more relaistic
@@piplupempoleon4225 yeah, maybe.
非常期待明年的驍龍8Gen4的安卓新機！😊
我也是，8gen4是口碑之战
看完我只覺得，Switch 性能要是有這一半就好了，畫質不至於那麼破🥲🥲🥲
任地獄表示Switch還能再戰3年
我真的無法想像巫師3跟APEX是被砍了多少才能在Switch 跑
这样价格会很高，买的人会更少，所以。。
@@user-cg4pb5ht7g不会，8GEN2的安卓掌机 奥丁2已经1999了，任天堂N64失败以后，一直是垃圾性能卖正常性能的价格（对比索尼和别的电子产品来说）
8gen2跑模拟器玩野炊帧数都比switch强🤣
我期待今次8 gen電腦版表現
下回极客湾用千元改造机888干翻8gen3吧？😂
Waiting for English version of the review.. hope you upload it soon 🤞🤞
There’s eng subtitle
They hv English Channel too
什么时候测一下metal fx下的A17pro表现
高通的供應鏈相關股票感覺可以關注起來了
挺好的，照这么下去未来可以去干M芯片。
这次为了c口换的17promax，但苹果这些年挤牙膏，真感觉不出来哪里不一样，不像安卓机迭代那么有新鲜感。
骁龙X Elite的性能CPU性能和能耗已经强于苹果M2 max了
驍龍8g3 能效與體驗是第一選擇。好奇 A720x5 對比 天璣 X4 x3的2.85分Ghz, 哪個更勝一籌😅
天機緩存砍的太厲害了，體驗還是略不如高通，當然遊戲效能是遙遙領先
YOOOO LET'S FUCKING GO I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS❤
期待天璣9300的開箱😂
我從iphone5開始用智能手機 一直都用Apple 今年才剛換了iphone 15 pro max 讓我來說一句︰
打得好啊高通 繼續大大力打下去讓蘋果吃虧了才會好好做事不再擠牙膏
不管在哪個陣營 只要是對平台上有益的增長 對消費者來說都是好的 有競爭才會有進步嘛 廣東話正所謂唔屌唔鬆化 我們一起來看看蘋果是下一個intel還是nokia
苹果如果倒下那一定有划时代的产品推出，它被替代掉
反正你小子不打算用高通😂
Imagine a overclocked SD 8Gen3 in a gaming phone with proper cooling 😮
高通近期骁龙能校都非常不錯阿，888 8Gen1除外..看得出來都在追趕著蘋果現在GPU效能整個超越且功耗還低，CPU多核效能終於超越A17 Pro，單核效能則是落後些，看完小米14配8Gen3能校比又比上一代8Gen2好上不少也沒翻車問題且散熱能力又更佳!，看來又會是好評熱賣了~最後還是免不了感謝極客灣的測試介紹~
Real usage its worst than 8gen2. :) 8gen3 its 8gen2 oc, with 3nm+ about 20% better but -40% efficient. Thats why 8gen2 the best. Check power consumption. 😊
@@furieux6742they use newer core designs tho and they added a core to cluster1 while taking one away from the efficiency cores
the sd 8 gen 3 performs better than the sd 8 gen 2 but at peak the sd 8 gen 2 can't even reach the power consumption is way higher (similar story with a17)
不错不错
i will watch this channel even if i had to read the captions.
Excited for the dub as much as waiting for an Anime episode
省流 這次超車 CPU GPU 都贏了A17PRO
屁拉 單核又沒贏
@@whitesolaYT 試問現在有多少只吃單核的程式?
但銷量還是贏不了蘋果
Cpu中低频并没有超越
@@whitesolaYT笑死，只剩單核
My expectations were low for 8 Gen 3, only expecting an incremental improvement, a squeezing toothpaste, as I was excited for Oryon-powered 8 Gen 4. But goddamn, Qualcomm. god fkn damn.
Qualcomm is using all they have about the arm public core architecture on the 8 gen 3 as it would be no use when their 8 gen 4 with their own architecture comes out
@user-iv4dh7zp7s nope. They could put a beefed-up cache like 8MB or 4MB.
I was thinking of upgrading to 8Gen3 but knowing Oryon is coming next year I don't know what to do now
@@lasue7244你们都能看懂中文吗😂通过图表还是翻译
@@copycat8227翻译成英文字母不就行了
很期待後續手機廠商們的表演，也很好奇如何發揮這款芯片的全部實力🎉
比較期待rog因為之後想用門號方式來買他
從高通幾季的電話會議來看，他們是為了在手機端跑 Edge-AI做準備，一般手遊已經不需要這麼強大的硬體能力了
想想未來 AI 時代，我們拿著手機就有個個人助理，真讓人興奮 : )
只有ROG能壓榨出所有實力，也因此我希望ROG8頂規版用8+GEN3
高通自研架构之后，如果能效还能提升，估计摄影要全面超越苹果了
@@jonathanchentw 红魔：?
Damn the 8gen 3 is truly getting the hype they deserve
So damn right
Imagine de 8 gen 4 with oryon cores 👀🔥
fire dragon！
just normal upgrade, more like apple being shtty these years
@@zihechen3111 no they're making apple look like shtt these years 😁
Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 is truly a BEAST ‼️🤯🔥🔥
Yea trottling and 7h sot😂 not 9-10 on 8gen2.
能解BL了吗？有国际版固件，或者原生安卓固件可用的吗？如果有，现在就下单，没有的话只能选别的了
8Gen3可以拆下來,組成一台輕筆電或準系統
Melhor canal de test 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Ahhh finally English caption for translation
已入手小米14，感谢极客湾
啊？还没上市去哪买？
小哥最近幸福了不少的感觉 😂😂😂
高通終於來了，只要緩存在拉高，軟體上適配更好再來就要換天了
換天還是很難 大多數人買手機都不會看規格的 都是無腦蘋果
就像電腦一樣 amd現在足夠強 還是一堆人只會買intel
@@jjjj88521 AMD是用來逼Intel好好升級，和不要買太貴
ROG8 用這顆CUP應該可以賺得盆滿缽滿了
很想看看美版和国行iphone在性能和散热有什么区别，毕竟主板不同
Thanks.. we need more videos for the English channel
虽然用mac和iphhone。。。但还是太好了，苹果这么多年只会守着生态圈吃老本，ai热没赶上，硬件也逐渐被迫近，引以为傲的工业美学也十年不变，我自己都记不得用的是13还是14，希望能被逼出来点儿新东西。也幻想下新Switch能有安卓旗舰水平！
只怕蘋果在蹲 其實已經發展出黑科技了 等到GEN3出來他又變出一款性能更強的 之前只是在COSTDOWN等你追上罷了
任天堂的機器不會給你性能的🤣
其實蘋果ai很厲害，像是空間音訊和watch的兩指手勢都是靠著大量機器學習實現的
現在蘋果A系列處理器機基本上就是M系列的實驗室，蘋果已經對手機上的A系列soc不上心了
首席硅仙人跳槽了，并且制程红利太小了
For Galaxy 版本頻率會超到多少呢？
发哥，你们等着
期待ROG PHONE 的新機！！
2:51 我印象中當時發展多核的理由，好像是因為一顆核心做太大時，製造的良率很低，結果現在還是把一顆核心愈做愈大，不知道這算不算製程進步帶來的技術變化
其實是有些事情就是大核心來做效率比較高，加上非伺服器超算應用對多核的優化都很慢，因為優化多核其實很貴
1.邊際效應
以intel來舉例 p core的晶圓面積占到e core的四倍 耗電也是數倍 效能卻不到兩倍
2.程式效率
16顆3ghz的核心跟8顆6ghz的核心理論上效能是相同的 但實際執行時因為優化的關係16核低頻那邊會明顯低落 俗稱一核有難多核圍觀 這也是為什麼e5這種多核低頻洋垃圾不適合打遊戲的原因
@@ABABBAB 但過了均衡點後單核太胖也會造成功耗過高能效不佳的窘局，所以不是把單核堆到不能再堆就天下無敵
专业
Please test the new qualcomm powered laptops that are said to come out
sure，
hopefully snapdragon 8 gen 5 perform at gtx 1660 laptop level
Nah that's too big of a leap if they can damn.
@@Nico-Lconsidering Qualcomm CPU made by nuvia for snapdragon 8 gen 4, TSMC 3nm, and new adreno 800 GPU series, it's possible for snapdragon 8 gen 5
期待下一代高通自研架構
第一代不用期待肯定不如ARM公版，参考骁龙820
+1+1
牙膏擠爆
會先烙賽 買S24U擋著看戲等他穩ˋ了再換
第一代自研絕對打不贏ARM公版
感謝~可以衝三星S24U了.
We need this in your english channel
Hello ! Good work ! Why there aren't single core comparisons though ?
No permission from manufacture to get the root access I guess.
now give us the English version!!! also, last time, I felt the English version lacked the technical complexity this version provides...
Use subtitles
Hello Engineers
you have created great content so far but due to the language barrier a lot of people can not access the content of your videos
your channel has a huge untapped potential.
Yunfei（Geekerwan's English channel host）was in the US when making this video so the English version can't be released at the first time
just wait a few days,he's about to return to China
@@user-ji7kr2cj7j thnx. But how did u get this information??
我记得油管有字幕，可以自动翻译成英文，极客湾也有英语频道
@@user-vl1yd1hs3k that is true and I am using that. I don't understand Chinese/mandrin. But if the content was in English it would be easier to understand especially the technical stuff.
@@Yossef_M for god sake, caption exist, though there are 20 percent mistranslation
哎 才剛買 小米 13 不到兩個月 Gen 2 晶片我就覺得真的不錯了 下次換應該要 小米 16 吧
能像苹果一样搞一个转译层吗
13:31 我們可以大膽猜測12年後手機會有4090性能的GPU
沒啥不可能，但半導體材料難題要先解決
架構不同很難說，而且手機完全沒有驅動可言，就算理論性能達到4090應該也無法被充分利用
散热和电池是大问题，最主要是电池，现在真的缺一个新电池的诺贝尔奖的得主
显卡是16090
@@user-iq4xz4pd2p 主要是電池沒找到更好的新材料，不然真的能得諾獎
更期待天璣9300到底是真香？還是個火璣😂
Shits on tensor, wrecks A17 pro mostly, looking forward to upgrade my phone this year
Cover X elite as well
看到這麼強的性能，看看有沒有爆炸性的軟體配合，例如實用的語音助理等，如果無線技術跟顯示技術能滿足超輕頭戴式裝置，我相信會跟當初智慧型手機出現一樣，說不定之後的手機沒有螢幕了，都靠眼鏡處理掉顯示問題
Windows 11
軟體問題回歸到Android身上基本沒救，要Google做出來給大家用還不如各廠自己研發
@@user-im2fn2wq9y然後看好用估狗直接拿來用在安卓
真的要給安卓各廠respect
想當初htc sense也是一堆有趣實用功能被整合到google優勢都沒了
@@user-im2fn2wq9y 看看有沒有劃時代的公司出現
小米这次宣布了自研的HyperOS，面向全球。目前系统底层不少组件已经重写，不过人家大大方方的承认自己还是兼容AOSP，不像华为直接改名@@user-im2fn2wq9y
Apple caught sleeping for too long. Now they’re finally defeated!
虽然前半节啥也没听懂，但是觉得很厉害😂
小米數字系列背面繼承以往簡單又粗暴的設計
一个小建议 表格的数字列要么右对齐要么居中对齐，最好不要左对齐 （例如 2:46 ）
为啥，有什么说法吗
照8gen3的能效看来，明年就是高通称霸移动端的时候了
有沒有王者120幀率8gen3和A17 pro的功耗穩定對比阿
好快啊
为什么不测一测soc众生平等的CODWZM，感觉IW8引擎优化是真迷
Apple's MT and GPU leads are gone, all they retain is single core and the margin is narrowing substantially.
I wonder if they can ever separate themselves from the pack again, or this is like the Zen moment of CPU convergence where AMD and Intel have just stuck close since.
apple fanatics doesnt care. apple is apple😂
Most talented chip designers left 😅
Qualcomm Oryon chip already beats A17 and M2 in single core tests by a good margin and its coming to SD 8 Gen 4 next year.
@@Sand_1995 no its the next after we are not even into next year yet
@@Sand_1995 Doesn't matter, by then the A18 is out and if the M3, released just tonight, is anything to go by, Qualcomm is defeated
终于牛逼了。🎉🎉🎉🎉
希望能看到手機點亮8K螢幕
蘋果手機可能要步上個人電腦的後塵了，核心性能僅能勉強追趕，只剩用戶體驗能留住客群😢
笑死！沒有體驗你是要當作業員是嗎？
XDDDDD
@@esterior7198 對呀，所以我用iphone、imac、macbook、ipad😳
😢也就吃准了果子用户不差钱，不然2023年的60帧电子垃圾硬体垃圾咋敢发布
@@user-kx7fd2zc1z 個人電腦不差啊，用起來也很順，工作也方便
苹果手机无线和信号是硬伤