Why Luffy Doesn't Need A "Garp" - Forced Parallels In One Piece

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  • @danielcarlos3239
    @danielcarlos3239 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2390

    god 100% this, OP is not Naruto

    • @dreamcastdazia4753
      @dreamcastdazia4753 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Shut up. Reincarnation has nothing to do with Naruto. Wtf is wrong with you. Just because Naruto had it doesn't mean something else is trying to be like Naruto for having it
      You bitches know what I mean by this so don't give me that "yOu aInT wAtChEd nArUtO" shit

    • @BakaryD
      @BakaryD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +333

      @@dreamcastdazia4753 Chill. Reincarnation has to do something with Naruto since Naruto used that theme for its major finale

    • @TuxedoMask512
      @TuxedoMask512 5 ปีที่แล้ว +207

      Dreamcast Dazia yo ass clearly didn’t watch naruto then 🤣

    • @BreakingTheGleipnir
      @BreakingTheGleipnir 5 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Imagine being this salty and this wrong about something hahahaha jesus

    • @MisterShine1912
      @MisterShine1912 5 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      @@dreamcastdazia4753 I guess you watched the wrong Naruto then....
      4kidz dubbed maybe

  • @bwhit7919
    @bwhit7919 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2416

    I would agree, were it not obvious that Buggy is a parallel to Whitebeard.

    • @wisdommanari6701
      @wisdommanari6701 5 ปีที่แล้ว +127

      He does have no interest in one Piece. Hell he probably went to the final island with shanks and everyone else on the Ora Jackson

    • @victorsmith11
      @victorsmith11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +256

      @@wisdommanari6701 Buggy has no interest in the world of humans, he is only trying to collect the cool DLC items then return to his thrown as Im sama

    • @machina5
      @machina5 5 ปีที่แล้ว +134

      I'd agree with you if the evidence for Buggy being a parallel of Oda himself wasn't so strong. I mean think about it, both are silly, perverted, and nonsensical, but both are also extremely skilled at planning events out decades ahead of time, and could kill any other character in the story with a flick of their wrist, 0 difficulty.

    • @victorsmith11
      @victorsmith11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@machina5 "Holy shit" -Joseph Joestar

    • @joeydollas1657
      @joeydollas1657 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      i laughed out loud reading this comment thank you.

  • @baladan7433
    @baladan7433 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1186

    Kaido was an apprentice in rocks ship.
    Buggy was an apprentice in Rogers ship.
    Buggy the yonko confirmed

    • @astora4671
      @astora4671 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Not a apprentice but a member

    • @pavishankar8021
      @pavishankar8021 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@astora4671 he was cited to be an apprentice

    • @astora4671
      @astora4671 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pavishankar8021 Talkin bout kaido ya dumb fuck

    • @acesnumber8
      @acesnumber8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Why is this dude so mad when he is wrong😂

    • @Nobody0117
      @Nobody0117 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@astora4671 So is he dumbass

  • @ChBrahm
    @ChBrahm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +491

    Whiteboard said it best himslef. He is a relic of the old era. Literally and figuratively. He himself was old and dying. But at the same time the world doesn't need a new Whitebeard - a shepard of lost children at sea- because Luffy will free the seas. The cycle ends with Luffy he will rally everyone behind him and challenge the world to duel. That will end the grand pirate era making Whitebeards "spot" in history no longer a thing

    • @ChBrahm
      @ChBrahm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      That said. I could eventually see Katakuri becoming the Big Bro of his family after Big Mom's defeat. Changing the dynamic of the family and ACTUALLY creating a paradise for all races given that he HAS a motivation to do so. He was shamed for his appearance since he was a kid and his sister suffered for it. It would make sense for Katakuri's character to stay at Totland and make it the paradise it was always intended to be. And he has the maturity and the power to see that through.
      That's why he asked Luffy to come back and defeat his own mother. Because he wants Totland to become all it can be but it can't with BM in power and he knows he is not strong enough to do it himself.
      So. If. *IF* you want to draw parallels between the old a new eras. Katakuri is Big Mom. A better version of her that is. And even that is a sketchy parallel at best

    • @zasper2237
      @zasper2237 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well said 👌

    • @mileycyrus201198
      @mileycyrus201198 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

    • @MooMoo-ud9te
      @MooMoo-ud9te 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      👌👏

    • @soversetile
      @soversetile 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ChBrahm excellently said!

  • @VolcanicGoku
    @VolcanicGoku 3 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    It's actually important that Luffy has differences from Roger. Shanks' role in the story seems to be finding someone like Roger, and ensuring he doesn't make the same mistakes. Shanks grew up watching Roger charge into battle against anyone who insulted his friends, and Shanks recognized that danger. He gave his arm so that Luffy would remember the importance of avoiding unnecessary battles. An important point of Marineford was that Ace inherited his father's refusal to back down, and died because of it. Shanks even points out how badly he wants Luffy to never make that mistake as he leaves Whitebeard's grave. Luffy may carry the same will as Roger, but their differences might end up making all the difference in the end.

    • @skidzzthewiz9226
      @skidzzthewiz9226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I think that’s shown the best in impel down when jimbe helps luffy realize he shouldn’t confront Blackbeard. Having his friends guide him to not making the same mistakes that his brother did.

    • @exbla7080
      @exbla7080 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      this is an god their analysis

  • @nyalan8385
    @nyalan8385 5 ปีที่แล้ว +354

    "If you're looking for a marine enemy, why not one who killed his brother, scarred him for life, swore to hunt him down and who Luffy clearly has a grudge against." - Mr. Morj, 2019

    • @TM-NTM
      @TM-NTM 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Akainu must die fans are warming up to him I don't like it

    • @TM-NTM
      @TM-NTM 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mephilesthedark7497 what does that mean

    • @drsam1248
      @drsam1248 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      luffy have stockholm syndrome so he won't kill akaino that is the problem ,i am sure oda will make luffy forgive him or act like nothing happend ,like he did with bellamy and i am sure he will be a good friend with doflamingo too

    • @TM-NTM
      @TM-NTM 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@drsam1248 oh I would hate that

    • @zeezoldyck1924
      @zeezoldyck1924 5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Dr sam Doflamingo is genuinely evil and Akainu killed his brother. Bellamy isn't half as bad as those two, he was just misguided and a bit of an asshole but he was never evil.

  • @maximilianbur2560
    @maximilianbur2560 5 ปีที่แล้ว +474

    I will refer to this video very often in the future. People try to draw way too many parallels to roger. We‘re watching luffys journey, not his

    • @Sunaki1000
      @Sunaki1000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Linsey ellis made something about Starwars and how obsessed people are whit bloodlines and destiny and reincarnations.
      (belife it was her)

    • @maximilianbur2560
      @maximilianbur2560 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I always pretend there is the original trilogy and rogue one (for the most part at least) so cant relate 😅

    • @MechaStorm7
      @MechaStorm7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We can also refer to Inuarashi's words to Nami about the first and second journey of the pirate king and the Log Pose.
      Notice how the straw hats have been guided by people from Roger's crew. Of course Luffy gets the hat from Shanks but shortly after setting sail, he encounters Buggy. Then they meet Crocus, then Rayleigh, then Inuarashi and Nekomamushi. Each one of these characters have played a major role in changing the path of their journey to the One Piece.

    • @chinuaalibatya7345
      @chinuaalibatya7345 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah some people even say Roger had Luffy's devil fruit

    • @notthechosenjuan2413
      @notthechosenjuan2413 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I completely agree with you, but people like bloodlines as it creates a narrative rhythm which gives a direction where the story is going. I despise bloodlines especially as it becomes an excuse for growth not a tool to demonstrate development of the character for my biggest example is "Zoro is a descendant of Ryuma and/or from Wano" theory. People desire to force a parallel between Zoro and the Wano people so much that everyone already believe it's canon. This of course goes the same for Luffy but it's Shounen so we all kinda expected a powerful bloodline and him being a prophesied one.

  • @gorunmain
    @gorunmain 5 ปีที่แล้ว +767

    Morj is so fluent and articulate

    • @samueltuang5560
      @samueltuang5560 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Can't stop listening to him & joyboy

    • @cesarvazquez6627
      @cesarvazquez6627 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you want to hear the opposite listen to LegendMac

    • @stephenurban1051
      @stephenurban1051 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@cesarvazquez6627 now legendmac theories are off the wall i tried 2 watch a video and it hurt my head how dumb it sounded

    • @cesarvazquez6627
      @cesarvazquez6627 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@stephenurban1051 yeah thats why i said hes the complete opposite of Morj

    • @redfootzeff1212
      @redfootzeff1212 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Put some respect on LegendMac
      He just on a higher frequency than yall that's why yall dont dig it
      That guy imagination is greater than Einstein

  • @oppositereality3792
    @oppositereality3792 5 ปีที่แล้ว +897

    *Just think about this:*
    Kizaru could already see every island in the world and find One Piece because his fruit is a damn light BUT he decided weed is more important.

    • @david0202095
      @david0202095 5 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Bruh

    • @hamzakherbouche9989
      @hamzakherbouche9989 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      He is lazy

    • @michaeldmingo1525
      @michaeldmingo1525 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Weed is more important. But he can't fly over the Sea and he cannot just go in a ramdom direction.

    • @redguy4636
      @redguy4636 5 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      He could have killed zoro in Sabaody but weed is more important

    • @DanielLawrence33
      @DanielLawrence33 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      OppositeReality thats why he is my fav character, he LIT

  • @namdjwox934
    @namdjwox934 5 ปีที่แล้ว +374

    Personally I feel like Koby isn’t meant to be part of Luffy’s league and is his rival but when One Piece ends, the celestial dragons influence and power is over, Koby will be the one of the great marine figure that will lead the world government and the new generation.

    • @GrugBonkers
      @GrugBonkers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      The world government won't survive. The revolutionary army is pretty much proven to be 100% right about everything and the void century seems very likely to have global genocide (committed by the world government)

    • @namdjwox934
      @namdjwox934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Grug Bonkers the rev army arent against the idea of government/governance. they are against the celestial dragons, and the higher ups who control it

    • @LinhTran_323
      @LinhTran_323 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The next generation of marine sounds good tho, we may not need a world gov anymore, but I think marine is still necessary

    • @dotus9959
      @dotus9959 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We definitely have to see him achieve his dream

  • @MarcoDToon
    @MarcoDToon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +847

    Naruto syndrome = forcing parallels into a series in every possible way. Many One Piece fans have it but Oda doesnt and that's what matters

    • @dreamcastdazia4753
      @dreamcastdazia4753 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What do you mean Naruto forced parallels

    • @MarcoDToon
      @MarcoDToon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +169

      @@dreamcastdazia4753 You know how Kishimoto made every ninja team have the same roles (genius, useless girl who likes the genius and hard-working dumbass), or how there are like 10 guys who are in every way except phisical exactly like Naruto? (his teacher from ep. 1, Jiraya, Minato, Konohamaru, Tsunade's brother, Obito, Hashirama, that one god whose name I forgot, the list goes on...)

    • @sayvonoftreehousearcade9281
      @sayvonoftreehousearcade9281 5 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      Marco D. Toon
      Naruto=Parallel Obito
      Sasuke=Parallel Kakashi
      Sakura=Parallel Rin
      Kakashi would be Minato later in his life.
      Naruto and Sasuke=Hashirama And Madara= Indra and Ashura
      Narutos team Leader was the future Hokage like how his counterpart Obito leader was the Hokage.

    • @sayvonoftreehousearcade9281
      @sayvonoftreehousearcade9281 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Marco D. Toon Obito is literally what Naruto would be if he ever gave in to the pain he felt of losing ppl he loved. While Kakashi is what Sasuke would be if he always remained good and positive

    • @MarcoDToon
      @MarcoDToon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@sayvonoftreehousearcade9281 So you're agreeing with me that they are all parallels

  • @UnoriginallyChrisLPs
    @UnoriginallyChrisLPs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1038

    The only parallel I'd be real mad to see is if Oda decides to give Roger the Gomu Gomu fruit

    • @wisdommanari6701
      @wisdommanari6701 5 ปีที่แล้ว +324

      Yeah I like how Luffy devil fruit is weak but it's luffys own strength and innovation that makes it so powerful

    • @urineformation
      @urineformation 5 ปีที่แล้ว +114

      Yeah that would be the worst

    • @Ken-pn4of
      @Ken-pn4of 5 ปีที่แล้ว +287

      That’s already been sorta debunked too cuz I would imagine Rayleigh or Garp or Sengoku at MF would mention that kind of thing seeing Luffy use it

    • @dylaninfinity9756
      @dylaninfinity9756 5 ปีที่แล้ว +188

      This is one of the falsified parallels that physically cause me pain... plus the more information we get about Roger I'm starting to think he was just a swordsman and not a DF user. I've always wondered why Shanks is so opposed to DFs and I feel it's likely because the Roger Pirates had the same ideology. I don't yet have 100% evidence for that

    • @zoeking95
      @zoeking95 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      UnoriginallyChrisLPs not possible Rayleigh would have noticed wb would have noticed Garp would have noticed

  • @sebcalvo5925
    @sebcalvo5925 5 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    I never thought about Luffy having a Garp... so when Morj was explaining the argument for having this I thought “oh that makes sense”. Then throughout the video, he convinced of what he was trying to unconvince me of despite convincing me otherwise at the start of the video 😅😅

    • @PibbDFanta
      @PibbDFanta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ...what

    • @sakura5sango6
      @sakura5sango6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOL xD

    • @sakura5sango6
      @sakura5sango6 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@PibbDFanta He thought the reasoning about why Luffy should actually have a Garp made sense.... until the following arguments proved it wrong and also made sense for him. LOL xD

  • @Amit_Munde
    @Amit_Munde 5 ปีที่แล้ว +915

    ...”but Zoro’s like legitimate alcoholic”😂😂😂

    • @michaeldmingo1525
      @michaeldmingo1525 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No he don't drink that much. Zoro is prety much soba.

    • @boredfangerrude
      @boredfangerrude 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @@michaeldmingo1525: What are you smoking?

    • @michaeldmingo1525
      @michaeldmingo1525 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Weed. You want some? No seriusly Zoro drinks but he don't drink that much. If Zoro was an Alcoholic he would be in the Pub all the time.

    • @boredfangerrude
      @boredfangerrude 5 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      @@michaeldmingo1525: Lol, he chugs barrels of alcohol like it's nothing. Ya okay, he doesn't have a drinking problem.

    • @michaeldmingo1525
      @michaeldmingo1525 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I know plenty of Alcoholic, Zoro's a light weight. A real alcoholic is down the Pub binge drinking for 3 days straight, can't even walk straight. Spends all their money on booze. Zoro spend hours trainning and weight lifting. Zoro's drinking does not interfere with his dream to be the Worlds greatest Sword fighter.

  • @MaggotKing556
    @MaggotKing556 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1710

    It's moments like these I'm glad none of us are writing One Piece and it's in Oda's hands. We'd have ruined it a million times over by now

    • @mclordism
      @mclordism 5 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      Facts

    • @speewagon820
      @speewagon820 5 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Facts right here

    • @gilbertoflores7397
      @gilbertoflores7397 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Well if he had a good writing consultant, it'd be the best, but oda isn't as skilled a writer we'd like to belive he is; He leaves so much holes. And inconsistencies that we like to ignore and just see all the good parts. One piece is good, but we have to make huge assumption of what he meant/tried to do with his story. When he usually fails to deliver in terms of story telling, by kicking the can down the road with the promise of the real pay off.

    • @WTCAT500
      @WTCAT500 5 ปีที่แล้ว +206

      @@gilbertoflores7397 LOL

    • @luv83
      @luv83 5 ปีที่แล้ว +187

      @@gilbertoflores7397 Wtf are you talking Bout? Maybe use evidence when writing a point. Mr I critique writing while having zero idea on how to write an argument.

  • @cond.oriano8249
    @cond.oriano8249 5 ปีที่แล้ว +560

    We all knew that Luffy's "whitebeard" is the Foxy Pirates.

    • @MooMoo-ud9te
      @MooMoo-ud9te 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      It's official. Dont care if it is not canon.

    • @eVill420
      @eVill420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      if I have to fucking see that cumstain of a crew again I'll fucking kick my own finger off

    • @Silly_Illidan
      @Silly_Illidan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yup that afro is power

    • @DeclanVH
      @DeclanVH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      MooMoo, it is canon though

    • @soversetile
      @soversetile 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      LMAO

  • @SR-kh6yq
    @SR-kh6yq 5 ปีที่แล้ว +255

    "It's somehow turned into this criticism of Oda as if he's failed to properly develop Smoker into the Garp role" man, I feel this. I hate the "Smoker is weak" arguments so much.

    • @Mohamad-m7md
      @Mohamad-m7md 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      I want Smoker to be stronger not because he’s the next garp or anything but I just like the guy

    • @aidangreen4671
      @aidangreen4671 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Smoker is pretty weak lol. He relies on his sea stone sword and even then someone like Law shit on him. Fucking law. The dude that seems to be a walking L and has to get saved by luffy

    • @roto6834
      @roto6834 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Aidan Green law doesn’t take that many L’s in the show, it’s the fans that downplay him

    • @Mohamad-m7md
      @Mohamad-m7md 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Aidan Green
      Never understood why people created this L idea and made it a thing to compare which character is better if anything characters who take Ls and still have the balls to fight anyways are true badasses and it’s more relatable and interesting for a character to struggle rather than not that’s why I found Zoro to be worse after the time skip even tho he looks badass by not taking damage and I’m talking pre wano of course

    • @prabinlamsal5125
      @prabinlamsal5125 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Garp is Garp, brother. We can't expect any characters to get on his level,can we? |

  • @hansnase364
    @hansnase364 5 ปีที่แล้ว +224

    Before even watching this video: thank you.

    • @batoubalou
      @batoubalou 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Always like the video before watching when its Morj and Ohara work

    • @hansnase364
      @hansnase364 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@batoubalou Nah, man, I'm usually more critical than this (especially for Ohara's stuff, from what I have seen the guy doesn't really back up his random speculation). But for this one it's just a point that's been annoying me for a long ass time now. So even just reading the title lets me know this is a video I will enjoy.

    • @MrMorj
      @MrMorj  5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Thanks lol I felt like this was something a lot of people wanted vocalized

    • @hansnase364
      @hansnase364 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@MrMorj I definately did.
      You quickly grew to be my favourite One Piece youtuber, man. I love how rather than speculating about superficial plot progression or character strength, you often take a step back and analyze the themes of the series, the overall narrative structure, and the arcs of the characters. Do you happen to have a background in literary criticism? Just wondering. Keep up the good work, anyway!

  • @MisterShine1912
    @MisterShine1912 5 ปีที่แล้ว +343

    Finally
    Someone who speaks my thoughts
    I hated the idea of Luffy teaming up with Koby against Blackbeard

    • @EpicPalmTree
      @EpicPalmTree 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It can still happen

    • @john851231
      @john851231 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      If We see the Past Roger team up With Garp both have D in their name. But Coby even he is Potrait as Garp Replacement in the future he still not fit to fill Garp Role in the past. I rather Choice Law to team up with Luffy to Fight the Final Boss.

    • @JustButton
      @JustButton 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Shenoemeh Lyngdoh sorry to burst your bubble, but Morj only said that Coby doesn’t share enough character traits with Garp to be a parallel. He never said anything disproving a teamup against BB.

    • @staticshadic
      @staticshadic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shenoemeh Lyngdoh to me that always sound werid

    • @zoeking95
      @zoeking95 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shenoemeh Lyngdoh so explain to me how luffy is gna defeat the man who has the strongest of each type of DF he’s gna get kaido a fruit next jus wait n watch
      Bb gna kill shanks shiryu will kill mihawk jus wait n watch and I’m calling it now shiryu sword ate the diamond fruit

  • @williammedeiros2699
    @williammedeiros2699 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Man you have some of the best or the best arguments around One Piece story telling and theming dude, you're crazy good at it.

  • @michaeldmingo1525
    @michaeldmingo1525 5 ปีที่แล้ว +188

    Bartolomeo is a Luffy fanboy with his Ship named after him and BlackBeard is a fan of Rocks so he named his Ship after Rocks.

    • @xuereb2867
      @xuereb2867 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Bartolomeo should be the one who helps luffy at the end with a super huge shield or something like that

    • @michaeldmingo1525
      @michaeldmingo1525 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      What if Bartolomeo uses his Barrier on BlackBeard or turns it into a Giant Club and Luffy uses it to hit Kaido.

    • @bilbobaggins3464
      @bilbobaggins3464 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Actually makes sense. Maybe he is just a fan.

  • @potentialPizza8
    @potentialPizza8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    Video in a nutshell: No One Piece isn't Naruto goddammit.
    Morj I swear to god you keep posting these when I have barely not enough time to watch before getting to class.
    Liked it a lot, not your deepest analysis but it wasn't trying to be. Good to have an explanation of this basic stuff that the community really ought to internalize.

    • @mistersureshot1749
      @mistersureshot1749 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      This argument is the whole "Destiny" theme, which didn't work for Naruto in my opinion.
      If Luffy was destined to find the One Piece/be Pirate King, that would hurt the story (but with the OP fandom probably not that that much).

    • @MrMorj
      @MrMorj  5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Thanks man, and yeah wasnt an in depth analysis, my goal is to get out at least one in depth video essay a month and then stay consistent besides that with continued decent quality vids like this

    • @mistersureshot1749
      @mistersureshot1749 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @That boy Thats interesting because I think this introduce an interesting dynamic between Luffy and Blackbeard: Destiny vs Free Will.
      Blackbeard and his crew think that everything is happening because of "fate" Blackbeard sees the world as his oyster and taking everything for himself. His path to become pirate king is not so much of having freedom to do so, is because Blackbeard sees his role as destined to be, which is why Whitebeard's remarks on Blackbeard make sense because those who have the "D" are shown to act in ways that go against the norm of the world and they end up causing havoc for others. Luffy's free spirit is what counter acts anything that has to do with destiny because the One Piece wasn't made for him to find, anybody can find it and become Pirate king. However, the fact that he's willing to strive to become this greater person on his own accord and because he wants to do it, makes him more worthy to have the Will of D and frequently makes him a better pirate than Blackbeard. at Least something like that.

    • @notthechosenjuan2413
      @notthechosenjuan2413 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MrMorj I loved the video and one question, Still think Zoro is from Wano and/or a descendant of Ryuma? I say no because it's pretty weird that Oda is just smothering us with Zoro is the "lost samurai of Wano" with out right saying it. Also Zoro name isn't Japanese, even though weirdly enough he's from a Wano-esque village. Unless you believe he's one of the MANY individuals with a fake or secret names.

    • @Gluffy-G
      @Gluffy-G 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mistersureshot1749 Yup! 100% agree...if Luffy is destined to find the One Piece and become Pirate King - all he has to do is chill in a rubber dingy and destiny will find the One Piece for him!

  • @24xv555
    @24xv555 5 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    Agreed. There is no Garp for Luffy.....at least up to this moment.
    Smoker, Coby, Lucci are all unique on their own.

    • @Teddy_Gautier
      @Teddy_Gautier 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’d argue that Sentomaru is a contender. Luffy himself told him on Sabaody that he expected to run into him again out on the sea

    • @24xv555
      @24xv555 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Teddy/DarkMugiwara The conclusion of the video is Luffy’s marine generation is different than Roger’s. So stop forcing parallels. They are and will have different journeys.

    • @24xv555
      @24xv555 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Teddy/DarkMugiwara And no, he most definitely cannot be. Too damn weak.

    • @Teddy_Gautier
      @Teddy_Gautier 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      24xv555 oh they will for sure. However they are rivals and they both intend on facing each other off eventually. The way you speak about Koby makes me think you really don’t believe in his potential in spite of his growth. I don’t blame you though.

    • @24xv555
      @24xv555 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Teddy/DarkMugiwara
      Coby is unique, Garp is unique, as are the rest. Its not about not trusting his potential.
      OP is so vast & Oda is so creative that each character has its own story. Thats where my trust is.

  • @NotTheWheel
    @NotTheWheel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +510

    Careful man you're trying to use logic on Fan Boys.

    • @あずみ-x8f
      @あずみ-x8f 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Ikr

    • @Ultimodestructico
      @Ultimodestructico 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      NotTheWheel 😂😂

    • @zolo7111
      @zolo7111 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t get it

    • @vikramc7977
      @vikramc7977 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was not very effective

    • @shn4449
      @shn4449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Fanboys are gonna be fanboys, no matter how logical the counter-arguement is.

  • @jpem4664
    @jpem4664 5 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    This is a huge thing. People try to fit characters like Law into the role of characters from Rogers day by saying he’ll be the next Whitebeard as you say then miss what seem to be more deliberate ones like Garp/Sengoku and Luffy/Law as a “grandson” duo who have similar dynamics of personality. Like you said Luffy is a lot like Garp even if he shares Rogers view of freedom.

    • @tercial
      @tercial 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Garp and Luffy resemble each other a lot like young Garp looks like a buff Luffy

    • @eyeconicgamingph2018
      @eyeconicgamingph2018 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tercial Precisely man.

    • @tercial
      @tercial 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Jordan Vance yup funny how Luffy at 60 looks like Garp lol

    • @LinhTran_323
      @LinhTran_323 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now I am imagine Sengoku always shout at Grap and Grap never follow his plan =)))))

  • @jwallE93
    @jwallE93 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Law: We are going to take down
    Luffy: sounds good
    Law: I didn’t even finish the plan
    Luffy: sure thing buddy let’s eat
    Law: -_-
    Luffy: =D

    • @jwallE93
      @jwallE93 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Colby: I’m here to take you in!
      Luffy: HEEEEY COLBY nice to see you again!
      Colby: Luffy you’re under arrest!
      Luffy: Remember Albert!
      Colby: you mean Alveda?
      Luffy: Yea whatever happened to her?
      Colby: I arrested her.
      Luffy: oh good for you, nice catching up say hi to grandpa for me next time you see him.
      Colby: ok I will. See ya
      Colby: DAMNIT LUFFY YOURE UNDER ARREST!!!!
      Helmepo: Sire he got away again.

  • @elcangridelanime
    @elcangridelanime 5 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    I blame naruto for this mentality.
    In Naruto, every generation has the same archetype in team 7. Naruto/Sasuke/Sakura, Obito/Kakashi/Rin, Tsunabe/Jiraiya/0rochimaru, etc...
    This is the reason why People feel that in Onepiece the same archetype will repeat themselves. in a different generations.

    • @chinuaalibatya7345
      @chinuaalibatya7345 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ye it's just copy and paste

    • @acegames2482
      @acegames2482 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      And they are doing same with boruto you know those meme where they go like if you are copying my homework just copy it a little different that's what is happening with boruto

    • @FarahRace
      @FarahRace 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Leo Savage naruto is a completely different story so it really isn’t to blame

    • @JP-zb3yb
      @JP-zb3yb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Interestingly, Obito/Kakashi/Rin is probably the most unique one. While the Sannin and Team 7 were portrayed as carbon copies, and the women all ended up in the same role, I liked how there was depth to the Obito/kakashi/rin one. In some aspects, Naruto and Obito resembled each other, kind, wanted to be hokage, goofballs, etc while kakashi and sasuke were the cool, suave, elite, style persona, yet Naruto and Kakashi are also alike, and Sasuke and Obito are too, Naruto and adult Kakashi both became Hokage, wanted to save their friend, have some similar ideology, and Sasuke and Obito were Uchihas who were as Obito put it "fellow traitors" who went on a dark path. So while I do agree that the Team 7 archetype repeated often and contirbuted to the forced parallel mindset, Obito Kakashi Rin wasnt just a simple archetype reflection. It still is but it it followed two different parallels simultaneously with Naruto/Sasuke and Kakashi/Obito which i wish more people would acknowlege (though the argument of how successful it was is completely different).

    • @zolo7111
      @zolo7111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @JP I’m not reading this

  • @AcDCsama-rt5qz
    @AcDCsama-rt5qz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    The fact that calling Koby the next Garp is laughable. Seriously? Garp is literally something else.

  • @RagingPeanutButter
    @RagingPeanutButter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    Morj here seems pretty frustrated with the fandoms forced parallels here. I haven't seen much of this side of the fandom, but man, the little ones i do see are downright cringe. Glad the Morj here isnt one of them.
    Though, i do kind of disagree with the xebec / blackbeard parallel, just because we still havent seen enough of xebec himself.

    • @MrMorj
      @MrMorj  5 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Yeah sorry this was maybe a little more "ranty" than my usual vids but I had to get this off!

    • @WTCAT500
      @WTCAT500 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@MrMorj YES! I want to see more Morj rants😂

    • @abdtmran
      @abdtmran 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@MrMorj it's completely justified

  • @jotasm6630
    @jotasm6630 5 ปีที่แล้ว +368

    This is good because i don't like Koby as a main obstacle for Luffy's goals.

    • @Teddy_Gautier
      @Teddy_Gautier 5 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I do, because their fates were intertwined from episode 1, or chapter 2. Plus, my perception of the relationship between those two is different from a typical pirate/marine relationship.

    • @BreakingTheGleipnir
      @BreakingTheGleipnir 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Nor Ruffy nor Coby will achieve anything by being adversaries to each other.
      The One Piece world isnt black an white and theere are people in the marines that have interests that would align with even pirates.
      Coby has no interest in stopping Ruffy, he is no obstacle for him.
      I rather see the whole story work out in a way that Coby will realize the freedom fighting Pirates and revolutionaries ideals to be somewhat reflective to his own ideals.

    • @fitzsam4795
      @fitzsam4795 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Subversive 怒り he does have an interest in stopping him, he literally said he wanted to catch him in the future

    • @Teddy_Gautier
      @Teddy_Gautier 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Big Boss Sam exactly. It’s not even wanting to draw parallels that aren’t there. It’s been stated in the story by the characters themselves. Even if there is a shift in the way pirates are perceived to where they’re not enemies anymore, they will face off eventually

    • @MarcoDToon
      @MarcoDToon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@BreakingTheGleipnir Just call him Luffy please, that's his name

  • @gibbs5720
    @gibbs5720 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    Luffy's story is supposed to be bigger than rogers. The world needs to change in a drastic way; No more world government, no more marine as we know it. Luffy's the the bringer of a great change in the status quo. Roger himself said that he was too soon. If we keep forcing parallels with Roger's arc, one piece will end up with Luffy finding the one piece than dying and that's it. He will only be the second one who did, before the third one and so one. That's why he doesn't need a garp, that's why he doesn't even have to die like Roger. If at the end of the story the world is going to be that different, it's more likely that Coby and Smoker are going to have a role in that new era that's unique, that no one had before.

    • @nekosaiyajin8529
      @nekosaiyajin8529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      >Luffy finds one piece
      >It's a note saying "if you read this ur gay -from PK (pirate KING), aka Gold Dick Roger, aka GolD$$RodgR
      Ps get on my level, loser
      Pps we're not the same"
      >World governement corners luffy at laughtale and he gets sentenced to death after judged for his crimes.
      >luffy before his death: "my secrets, my treasure? I left it all in that place..." gets ended

  • @inasinas226
    @inasinas226 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    you are the first guy pointing out how kobi is used as a plot device oda used to highlight " you dont need to be strong to start something"
    salute man..

  • @lasersGoPewPew123
    @lasersGoPewPew123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Wow couldn't agree more about this! I've been attacked in forums before for saying this. It annoys me that so many people thinks there has to be these parallels and decide how powerful people are gonna be by the made up fact of 'there has to be a parellel to this'. Not saying Luffy can't have some of these parallels but let the story decide, we the readers don't need to decide. About koby though, outside of all the parallel nonesense, he's gotten very strong and could be stronger than a typical rear admiral. Can't wait to see what he looks like eos. All in all, really great video!

  • @ivanlakoseljac5293
    @ivanlakoseljac5293 5 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Speaking of parallels people also believed that Roger had the rubber devil fruit just becouse Luffy has it.

    • @wisdommanari6701
      @wisdommanari6701 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Gawd please no

    • @speewagon820
      @speewagon820 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      My biggest fear

    • @michaeldmingo1525
      @michaeldmingo1525 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Or that Rocks must have Black Beards fruit.

    • @bayekofsiwa5847
      @bayekofsiwa5847 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The only thing holding that theory is because it was stated during Luffy's battle with Lucci that "Gear 2nd takes a great toll on the users body, shortening the lifespan of the one using it." Coincidentally, Roger came with "a disease that cannot be cured." What disease cannot be cured? Shortened lifespan.

    • @sigmainuass
      @sigmainuass 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Aids

  • @tebogolefophana3010
    @tebogolefophana3010 5 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    You made me not like all other TH-cam One Piece creators.
    Quality content

  • @PlagueOfGripes
    @PlagueOfGripes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Fans like putting things together like pokemon masters like collecting trophies. There's no substance. It's like people wanting any new character to be a straw hat the moment their design shows up on the page. They don't care about their long term use or character. They just want to "have" things to put into a pile.

  • @islandboy9381
    @islandboy9381 5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    One Piece would be really clichéd and boring if everything that happens will turn out the same as in the past. Even Roger himself said ''everybody has a ROLE to fulfill'' a unique role, not to follow in the exact same steps as their previous incarnations. Plus it also takes away the unique motivation of the current main cast, like everybody says Zoro is the next Rayleigh and ignore his own dream of becoming the world's greatest swordsman and his other character traits that make him different from Rayleigh.

  • @PepeMetallero
    @PepeMetallero 5 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Luffy's Garp is an Armada of allies from all the islands Luffy has helped

    • @wisdommanari6701
      @wisdommanari6701 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well... Yeah

    • @Sunaki1000
      @Sunaki1000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      you mean whitebeard?

    • @Eugene_TEC
      @Eugene_TEC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Maybe the real Garp was the friends we made along the way.

  • @somniloguy12
    @somniloguy12 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Preach it, this video is absolute catharsis.

  • @octocattraveler
    @octocattraveler 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Love your vídeos man!
    You and Ohara really make good analitycal vídeos, instead making empty reviews and crazy theories!

  • @zurialcarey4767
    @zurialcarey4767 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Morj being active....
    Thats wild
    That's insane
    That's unthinkable

  • @EayuProuxm
    @EayuProuxm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You're simply the best OP analyst on TH-cam. Never thought I'd see such a thoughtful and mature, even gentle rebuttal to this point. Props to you man.

  • @TJ-iq2xk
    @TJ-iq2xk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    "The Wheel of Time turns, and Ages come and pass, leaving memories that become legend."

    • @jasondrell7099
      @jasondrell7099 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wot was big in Japan too.. Adapted with manga style artwork..
      Prologue feels like Uchiha plot..
      Cyclical nature of time..
      Characters directly parallel past generations..
      Weaving threads, kinda like weaving hand signs..
      Combat involves reading what a person is weaving..
      Spoilers...
      - Special golden eyes everyone is intimidated by.
      - Eye magic reads special hidden message [like Uchiha tablet?]
      - Illusions about having those eyes taken out by enemy
      - Forced to re-experience death of family by enemy
      - Protag uses someone else's hand to complete his weave vs them.. [Just like Sasuke did...]
      - Eos merged Yin/Yang abilities into one god tier ability [Truth Seeking Orbs]
      - Protag draws upon power of mad spirit that dwells within him and can control him
      - Izanagi is like Balefire, it rewinds things like it was an illusion.
      - Bad guy that coalesces out of the air
      - Group of enemies that wear rings..one shoots fire out of his eyes
      - False child of Prophecy [Pain] just like "the False Dragon"
      - Very detailed hype moment where an ally raises a forest from nothing that kills broken powerful people [1st hokage]
      - Protag 2 heavily wolf based, smells everything, even emotion left in a room. [Kiba/Kakashi]
      - The dark one controls resurrection, and tempts the good side to evil w promises using it.. [Orochimaru/Tsunade]
      - Dream magic is clone/substitute type battles, transform into other people to attack them, people poof away, ect.
      - Prediction that protag and rival will kill each other at eos..
      Old Gen: 1st Hokage vs Madara ==== Lews Theron vs Ishamael
      Current Gen: Naruto and Sasuke ======= Rand Al'thor vs Moridin
      I would be shocked if Kishimoto WASN'T a Wheel of Time fan.

  • @rubberbandsam1743
    @rubberbandsam1743 5 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Luffy being a Pirate Garp makes so much sense. I’ve never been fond of the constant parallels people make between Roger and Luffy

    • @tercial
      @tercial 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Also funny how Young Garp looks like a buff version of Luffy

    • @Kannotwait
      @Kannotwait 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Exactly, Ace is more like his father

    • @sechmascm
      @sechmascm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Luffy's similar to Roger in many ways but his personality is basically pirate Garp. Obviously, Roger didn't have the goal to become Pirate King. Luffy takes this goal based on the notion that the Pirate King Roger conquered the Grand Line and lived freely as he wished, choosing even his death. But that's it. Their stories are meant to be different as much as they're similar. For one, Luffy will succeed and if not, why even state that Roger was too early and he's waiting for someone to inherit the Will of D? (Which Luffy seems the ultimate inheritor of)

    • @chainclaw07
      @chainclaw07 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      but Luffy despise the image of heroes which Garp is. and if we follow the logic put forth by the video, loose similarities are not enough to draw parallels.
      I'm not saying you can't think that, but Morj is...

    • @NinjaSanji
      @NinjaSanji 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@chainclaw07 luffy does not despise heroes, he despises rules which is what marines are about. Soba mask or usopp claimed to be a hero and luffy loved him .

  • @daxmasterix
    @daxmasterix 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Law is Luffy's Law. God damn it. I really don't understand why the "need" of havin' a "new Whiterbeard" for the "new Roger", I support you 100%

  • @joacimtorneus
    @joacimtorneus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was also on the Smoker = Garp train for the longest time. A lot of things seemed to fit like you described, and Smoker is 1) a character who's been with us for such a long time, you could even say he started his "journey" at the same time as Luffy in a sense, and 2) just an extremely likeable Marine even though he's totally different from Garp in personality - so a part of it is a desire to see him have a major role in the story going forward. As much as I love the Admirals, they all have more of a lofty air to them, while Smoker is the closest thing to a more personal rival/antagonist figure among the Marines.
    And while I don't have any attachment to it being some kind of parallel for the sake of it, I still can't deny that I remain disappointed that Luffy has seemingly just zoomed way past Smoker. It went straight from Smoker being untouchable, to it being impossible to see him as even a respectable threat. It now feels impossible that we'll ever get anything close to a hard-fought duel between them even though it seemed like a fight so long in the making, you know? Maybe I'm underestimating Smoker and he'll actually rise to an Admiral by the end of the story, which should be enough for an entertaining scrap between them, but if that was Oda's plan I think he would've prepared the stage better for it - drop us some "it's the White Hunter, the crazy Marine who went into the New World and threw himself into all the harshest battles..." lines... and not have him be so clearly inferior even to Law, who in turn was very clearly inferior to Doflamingo, who lost to Luffy and so on.
    I suppose the point of all this is that a reason to make these parallels, at least to some extent, can also arise from an attachment to a character and feeling like something really is building with them. Smoker's character is still fine, I really liked the way you described how the current era is different and not meant to have a Marine like that - makes me see the patterns in Oda's decision to move things in this direction better - but I still can't help but feel Smoker got the short end of the stick, to some extent.

  • @artypyrec4186
    @artypyrec4186 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I forgot Kid fought Shanks, lost an arm and still decided to go mess with Big Mom...and Kaido. He's 0 and 3 but still have to admire the dedication.

    • @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
      @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kid would have also joined the Heart Pirates and left the Heart Pirates if he was a parallel of Shiki which he isn't.

  • @TheHarshguy
    @TheHarshguy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    This issue started becoming more once Naruto ended. Draw whatever conclusions you want, just an observation.

  • @lodestar_prime
    @lodestar_prime 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Thank you. I never felt comfortable with the idea of Cobi out of knowhere being on par with Boa Hancock. I think he might not lust for her & Boa Hancock might end up developing some respect for Cobi. That's character development.

    • @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
      @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Koby teamed up with Law on Rocky Port like Garp teamed up with Roger to stop Rocks, and Honesty Impact is the Worst Generation version of Galaxy Impact meaning clearly now Koby is Luffy's Garp instead of Smoker.

  • @ClawCyber
    @ClawCyber 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This has been my biggest gripe with a lot of one piece youtubers. They have so many discussions and debates about who parallels who, who's going to fight who because they have to mirror each other and so many other examples. Good Vid!

  • @harlizuga
    @harlizuga 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Condoriano is Luffy's Garp and Foxy is Luffy's Whitebeard.

  • @gelm1r
    @gelm1r 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you, one of the few sensible One Piece TH-camrs, keep on the good work! Enjoyed all your videos so far !

  • @HomeWingGamer
    @HomeWingGamer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video!
    The One Piece world is so vast and diverse that it really makes no sense for patterns of people to be so widespread, even as we do draw parallels and see foils of characters clash all the time.
    The fact that Luffy is so similar to Roger isn't a point to be extrapolated across the series by the fanbase, but a logical indicator to other characters in the story that this is a man worth following.
    Luffy will lead them to the places Roger has before, and supporting him may lead to him reaching the heights that Roger couldn't in his day.

  • @PaperPatriot
    @PaperPatriot 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm so happy your channel exists, and I'm equally glad that you have a decent audience now, you deserve it

  • @rajatsreeraj6203
    @rajatsreeraj6203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In my personal opinion, Coby is the protagonist of the show from the marine perspective.

  • @gebrock163
    @gebrock163 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    This video makes me realise how little we know of Garp' philosophy and motives since there just isn't enough information about Garp as a character during Roger's era. For example why did he join the marines or why did he side with Roger during Battle of the God Valley. Basically we know very little on one of the most important characters of the series. On the flipside even though we just have a chapter's worth of info on Rocks we still can comfortably draw a parallel between Teach and him.

    • @JP-zb3yb
      @JP-zb3yb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I've been saying this for some time. I lowkey feel Garp is being built up to have one the saiddest stories in One Piece. On key thing to note is that Garp is like Luffy in appearing carefree. Yet luffy never talked about his past or sad moments, like sabos death or being beating up. Just his backstory in geneal he was very quiet about. Garp is the same way i feel. He has a face of carefreeness but theres a lot of stuff connected to him. His son is public enemy no1? Thats gotta be sad for him. His grandsons became notorious outlaws? We new how much that pained him. But more interestingly, the fact that luffy didnt seem to have a mother or grandmother growing up is intriguing. I feel like there's yet another implied tragedy there and obviously itd tie into dragons backstory but my point is that the more Garp is championed as a carefree unwavering symbol, it feels more and more likely that such a figure was formed by not just one sad event but multiple. Theres even more stuff like defying his bosses to harbor Ace, and we dont know if/how long he protected Dragons info from WG. Garp is such a clear foil to Luffy, i cant wait too see what Oda will do with his character

  • @theartistformidablyknownas3807
    @theartistformidablyknownas3807 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The reason that so many people in the marines seem like luffy's Garp is because Garps ideals have been passed down throughout the marines

  • @duckrat3115
    @duckrat3115 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're very good at proving how well you know your audience in each video you make.
    Keep making them for the sake of every current and future OP fans.

  • @lukadjordjevic3716
    @lukadjordjevic3716 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I actually do believe that Coby will become the strongest marine, but not because of some stupid parallel and his relation to Luffy, I just want to see him achieve his dream

    • @lukadjordjevic3716
      @lukadjordjevic3716 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @I hate toxic fans Well admirals have to be among the strongest

  • @Slade1984
    @Slade1984 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I blame joy boy for trying to parallel everything

    • @Rectiifyy
      @Rectiifyy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s not just him it’s whole community

    • @Rectiifyy
      @Rectiifyy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The*

    • @asmmahfuz8569
      @asmmahfuz8569 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@Rectiifyy You can edit your comment on youtube

    • @chinuaalibatya7345
      @chinuaalibatya7345 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This aged nicely

  • @lordsword4121
    @lordsword4121 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "Being friends" is not only parallel between Law and White beard: there us also lack of will to become a pirate king. But I agree that Law is NOT Luffi's Whitebeard

    • @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
      @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Roger and White Beard also had a temporary alliance with one another just like Law and Luffy, so yes Law is similar to White Beard, but he isn’t a copy and pasted version of White Beard.

  • @wuxy4169
    @wuxy4169 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First time viewer here, just stopped the video to say this: This video seems so cozy, all you need now is a small table by the chair with a glass of wine and to relax a bit more. Definitely subscribing btw

  • @thyago.dsantos
    @thyago.dsantos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Luffy, in my opinion, has always been what Garp and Dragon whanted and could be.

  • @jamesbishop3217
    @jamesbishop3217 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mr Morj proving once again why you are the only S Tier OP TH-camr.

  • @BakaryD
    @BakaryD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Whitebeard is closer to Katakuri than Law : WB never got a wound in his back, Kata never fell on his back/ WB wanted a family, Kata want to protect his family/ Katakuri and Luffy eating cover looking like Roger and WB eating.

    • @ew275x
      @ew275x 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      So you mean that Flampe is Katakuri's Squardo

    • @BakaryD
      @BakaryD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Haikami yeah he's way older than liffy

    • @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
      @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BakaryD , your Katakuri examples are the only example I can see Katakuri being similar to White Beard than Law, but there’s so much evidence backing up how Law and White Beard parallel one another.

  • @totalishnc
    @totalishnc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    day always gets better with a Mr Morj video

  • @hayazanpresent910
    @hayazanpresent910 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This is not Naruto, was about to write this before video even started and saw people already realise this

  • @Ken-pn4of
    @Ken-pn4of 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This video was so good and relevant I had to run it back..twice! Fans should hear this

  • @zombiesquad8041
    @zombiesquad8041 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "Thirsty for parallels"😂😂😂😂

  • @fybso3057
    @fybso3057 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    People be treating the strawhats like the tiny tunes of roger

  • @EzRadena
    @EzRadena 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    'People being thirsty for parallels'

  • @Caitvi45
    @Caitvi45 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are so so good, I know a lot of people say this but people praise anything. Your videos are genuinely god tier. Best part was when you pointed out Luffy is Garps parallel

  • @bruhbruh4635
    @bruhbruh4635 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Reading the comments, it looks like power scalers come from DBZ fandom while people who wants fight after fights comes from naruto fandom. They read or watched those series first then jump to One Piece after those series ended. They salty cause what their reading now was something new and big.

  • @mayur461
    @mayur461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watch a lot of one piece theory channels. This guy is the best.

  • @MariaMochileira
    @MariaMochileira 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mr. Morj: Makes a video about forced parallels
    Also Mr. Morj: makes a video about how Luffy will die as a parallel to Roger's death

  • @xShineyxDiverx
    @xShineyxDiverx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank god you exist, Mr Morj. Your views and way of thinking for the One Piece universe is such a breath of fresh air. Keep it up.

  • @noahskinner4452
    @noahskinner4452 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I wont lie...I dont care about having a garp but I honestly want to see Koby become strong 😭😭 i wanna see my boi have that final glow up

  • @laurelerousseau1253
    @laurelerousseau1253 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Morj, thanks for risking everything to put panels in the video, it really is a nice visual aid

  • @fullmetalalchemist1758
    @fullmetalalchemist1758 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I've wanted someone to make this video

  • @arunabhalahiri4931
    @arunabhalahiri4931 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Brilliant analysis, you have given words to all my thoughts and intuition.......

  • @keygaming4409
    @keygaming4409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You’re definitely on point with this vid...you can’t find one similarity in 2 characters and consider them parallels...Blackbeard could be Luffy’s biggest enemy as Rocks was to Roger but they could have had completely different motives and different personalities which would probably change the narrative pf the story for the new generation

  • @jokerlou
    @jokerlou 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is so crazy..... I was thinking somewhat on the lines of this video a couple of months ago. I'm glad that you went a deeper break down bc I could not break down my thoughts like you did. Thank you for your analysis of one piece🧐✌

  • @Lkiod
    @Lkiod 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Shanks knew that one of his former nakama ODEN was killed by Kaido and yet he did not do anything to Avenge his death. Knowing that he stopped Kaido from coming to the Paramount War, I wonder if Shanks is also going to be tied to the Wano arc. What do you think?

  • @taleleny5999
    @taleleny5999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Coby isn't like any other marine, he cheers for Luffy despite him being a pirate, Coby knows there are bad pirates like Alvida and good pirates like Zoro, who was called an evil swordsman.

  • @stevelucky7579
    @stevelucky7579 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Honestly the closest to being Luffy’s WB might be Sanji. Weird I know, but he is the most kindness wise and he is one of the big 3 in the straw hats.

    • @GladiusTR
      @GladiusTR 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why does luffy need a WB?

    • @stevelucky7579
      @stevelucky7579 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GladiusTR because he already has a Garp (Koby) just trying to fill in a few more of his Pirate King gaps.

    • @GladiusTR
      @GladiusTR 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevelucky7579 I don't buy it at all. This whole video explains very convincingly that Coby is definitely not Luffy's "Garp"
      But even before this video I never bought that Luffy had a Garp in the first place.
      Roger was great, but his story ended without the major change that Luffy's story seems headed toward.
      By the time OP is over there might not even BE a WG left for Coby to serve, let alone time for him to grow into an antagonistic force against Luffy.
      Luffy is NOT Roger. He is inspired by Roger, but his adventure is all his own.

    • @stevelucky7579
      @stevelucky7579 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GladiusTR I’m glad your not buying it, I haven’t sold it in 6 months.

    • @GladiusTR
      @GladiusTR 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevelucky7579 Point taken, I guess I was kinda silly getting serious about something like this

  • @thepmanimaker4380
    @thepmanimaker4380 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Out of all the one piece community i think you are the best at understanding the story and themes

  • @musicf3b
    @musicf3b 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think some people are just using characters as shorthand for what they mean. 'His whitebeard' kinda just means his top tier friend. Like his Garp just means marine rival

    • @SennaHawx
      @SennaHawx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This. Character parallel =/= exact copy.
      In many instances it's just common story bits showing up for different characters. Like Coby and Luffy are friends. There is no denying it. Coby is also getting pushed hard through the ranks of the Marines. Smoker and Hina are considered fast rising stars, yet Coby surpassed their speed in 2 years. No matter how you see it...The relationship between Coby and Luffy is hugely relevant to both characters'' future. Saying he is going to be "Luffy's Garp" does not mean that it will be a copy of the Roger/Garp relationship. Just that it will repeat certain story beats. Ergo Coby is the Marine most associated with the Pirate King.
      It certainly does help that Coby is trained under Garp, while Luffy is under Rayleigh and that Coby is already known as a hero

    • @daemonspade8316
      @daemonspade8316 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SennaHawx What story beats will repeat from Garp/Roger? So far there's very little and the only one I see is him joining with Luffy against BB but it doesn't hold much weight.
      Same with Law/WB, Kid/Shiki. There's no basis. WB's whole dynamic with Roger is so different from Luffy and Law.

    • @SennaHawx
      @SennaHawx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@daemonspade8316 See. Here you are asserting something completely different from what people claim. You want direct copies of events, with minimal changes between these character roles in the story in order to recognize them as a parallel. That's not what that means, though.
      The story beats that are repeated are much simpler than that and much more clean cut.
      Law/WB ---> In flashbacks we got a glimp at the relationship between Roger & Newgate. Against all expectations they were rather friendly with each other. They sat down and had a talk and generally had different goals. Once Law revealed that his main goal was actually getting his revenge against Doffy for Corazon's death and the alliance between the StrawHats & Law took shape, people theorized that Law would have a similar relationship to Luffy, as Newgate had with Roger. People that are seen as rivals, but are actually friendly with each other. That's it. Rarely anything else is implied when people speak about Law's/Newgate's role regarding Luffy/Roger.
      Kid/Shiki ---> Similar thing, opposite direction. From the beginning Kid was stated to be more ruthless than Luffy and definitely more classical-pirate-y in that regard. The character of Kid doesn't seem like the guy that will ever see himself beneath the Pirate King, let alone being friendly with him. The same was the case for Shiki in Chapter 0. Again...That's it. That's all people are referencing. Nothing regarding their actualy personalities, powers or development.
      Coby/Smoker/Garp ---> "You chased me all over the world." - Roger about Garp
      "One day I will arrest you." - Coby & Smoker about Luffy
      Smoker was the first strong Marine officer we met in the story and after Smoker named his intentions AND resurfaced in Alabasta, while rising through the ranks of the Marine-world, just like Luffy with the pirates, people saw that this very well is the implied behavior of Garp regarding Roger. Again...That's it. Every famous Pirate will have made some Marine officer look foolish. Every famous pirate is going to have a member of the Marines dedicated to stop/capture them. Early beats in the story seemed to suggest Smoker being that for Luffy. After Smoker's rather secondary performance in Punk Hazard - ending in a dedication to the save kids - alot of people hopped off this train, as it did no longer look like Smoker being the one "chasing Luffy all over the world." That is all about it. Again...Nothing about the powers, actual story or characterization of Garp/Smoker.
      Then Reverie happened and Coby was put over strong. He was "just" a Captain, which was already impressive, but he had a good showing and already gained some fame, thanks to his excellent work as a Marine. Then the most recent chapters revealed that in the last few days of the Reverie Coby actually recieved another promotion, factually making him the youngest cannon and non-cannon Admiral-ranked (not "Admiral"-rank) person in One Piece. Not only that, but we learned that he is a member of a top-secret Marine sub-division. Combine that with the recent reveal of Roger & Garp teaming up against a supreme enemy and the fact that Garp sepcifically and personally trained Coby for 2.5 years and you get some more story beats that just naturally flow together. Especially considering the Blackbeard/Xebec association is there in the manga, for everyone to see. The beat that many people think will repeat itself with Coby & Garp...is the team up to defeat a formidable opponent. For the fourth time...That's it. All that happened is that the Marine rival of Luffy switched from Smoker to Coby, because that journey, in any sense of the word, is happening in direct parallel to the journey Luffy is having. That's all the parallel that people see is refering too.
      TL;DR: What Naruto had were repeated characters, stories and character developments. What One Piece has is repeated story beats, with different characters and different character development.

    • @daemonspade8316
      @daemonspade8316 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SennaHawx Parallels also don't mean vague nitpicky similarities either.
      Most of what you said are not even "story beats", they're character traits. And the story beats you did mention are not parallels.
      Law/WB- Law's main goal is not revenge against Doffy. That is a lifelong goal of his, yes. However, he wishes to find the One Piece just as much as anyone. If you go back to Pre-TS, this is very much clear. You can have multiple goals in your life. However, the community conveniently ignored this for their forced parallel.
      So, Law being friendly with Luffy (a character trait) essentially warrants a parallel. This is so flimsy.
      Kid/Shiki- Shiki wanted Roger in his crew, he was more than ready to be friendly with him. Kid showed 0 interest in such things. Nothing similar at all.
      Coby/Smoker/Garp- With Smoker and Garp, Morj explained it already, there were clear parallels but with distinct personalities. So whether Oda intended them to parallel is maybe up for debate but that idea holds little weight nowadays due to the current direction of the story.
      As for Coby, his recent climbing of ranks+being Garp's underling is enough to see him standing shoulder to shoulder with Luffy as the Marine ally against BB. However, this only works if you're completely disregarding the story beat that the event in the past was 3 D members fighting, which is most likely a monumental event. But for the sake of the parallel, this plot point has to be ignored.
      All of these parallels you suggest only work when you leave out the conditions that come along with it. Good parallels flow naturally without having to be put under scrutiny.

    • @SennaHawx
      @SennaHawx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daemonspade8316 Doesn't matter what YOU mean when talking about parallels. I simply said what MOST PEOPLE that use these words regarding the character arcs in One Piece mean by that

  • @richardlancelot3829
    @richardlancelot3829 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, really makes me think a bit differently about the story!

  • @TheBobby2legs
    @TheBobby2legs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I boarded the “katakuri is Luffys whitebeard” ship from the moment I saw their fight through. Katakuri checks a lot of whitebeard ticks, he’s a man of the highest caliber with great honour, strength, and love for his family. I bet you he’s the type to die standing without a single wound on his glorious back.
    Edit: i agree with everything you said though, I just want Katakuri to play a fantastical role in the story like Whitebeard because he left that good of an impression on me.

  • @Sandra_aschenbach_doyle
    @Sandra_aschenbach_doyle 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are unique among your peers, my dude. Keep doing what you do. You are, so far, the only dude talking about manga/anime i didn’t want to shoot

  • @timothypolanco8622
    @timothypolanco8622 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Only a Mr Morj video can make a good day into a great day 💯

  • @ariadgaia5932
    @ariadgaia5932 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally off topic.. but I like your voice and your depth of thought. You've helped me see things I missed and your voice is soothing. I love your analyses~ I hope you keep doing them! Can't wait for more character analyses! Would love to see one of Law~ 😍

  • @prestontable
    @prestontable 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I hope Oda never explains how Zoro lost his eye

    • @muffinfighter3680
      @muffinfighter3680 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What?? But he has to have a secret weapon under his eye. All those theorists said so :(

  • @kristophersanchez5684
    @kristophersanchez5684 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Loved the way you broke down Luffy kid and laws dynamic.

  • @Everythinggoodstaken
    @Everythinggoodstaken 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    White beards nature of being a protector of many islands is why I say Luffy is that figure and the Pirate King figure of his generation. He’s pretty good friends with a lot of pirates too, but he’s still more powerful than whoever he really meets. It’s impossible to give a white beard connection for his generation when he’s the only one helping people really.

  • @luisaguirre3983
    @luisaguirre3983 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really enjoyed this video Morj! Forcing these parallels always seemed to me like a really easy way for readers to sour on characters and their respective arcs.
    Videos like these are nice compliments to your big analysis videos. Keep it up Morj! 👍

  • @davidwoodard665
    @davidwoodard665 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    People been watching too much Naruto, these ain't no reincarnations lol

  • @koldraiynedownskayle5744
    @koldraiynedownskayle5744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just thought of this, though it has little to do with "Luffy having a Garp."
    Smoker represents Real Justice while Coby represents True Justice, and those are different
    Most Marines pursue a form of justice that is not true or real, but borders on Injustice
    Smoker represents what justice really is. He's gritty, dirty, but he goes after real criminals, and admits when real justice has been served. He's Batman as far as his justice is.
    Coby represents what justice is supposed to be. Coby's justice is the idealized form of justice, the Knight of Lore, what we wish justice was and what it truly should be. He's Superman with his justice.
    By comparison, marines like Akainu are just zealots that aren't interested in justice at all.

  • @CAnton-it5pn
    @CAnton-it5pn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I agree, if anything, then Law has more parallels to Sengoku than anyone else. Man even inherited the mans will through Korazon.

    • @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr
      @RoronoaZoro-ur6hr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's now clear in Egghead Island and during Wano clearly Law is more of a pirate version of Sengoku than him being a parallel of Whitebeard.

  • @blazekaizer9000
    @blazekaizer9000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Morj! I just want to say that I love all your videos, I often rewatch them. One particular aspect that I love is how you constantly point out the big picture, the background themes, inspirations, and are not quick to jump into conclusions. After watching many of your videos I've found an even higher level of respect for the series and Oda. It has given me a new perspectives on many arcs, and the symbolism of it all, specifically your analysis about Wano. That being said, is there any other mangas, books, or literary works that you'd recommend? If something can capture your attention a fraction of what One Piece has, it is definitely worth checking out. Thank you and keep up the great content :)