Thank you guys very much, with your information and another great comparison video I found, I just installed Chinese exhaust on my bike with logo facing in so I'm not even fake repping the brand and it's much deeper and way louder. Not worth the money grab for me to buy named brand type for me. If my less expensive one breakdown I can buy 6 cheaper ones from China for the cost of one brand name. With your information I'll definitely add an air filter and get it dyno tuned asap. Thanks for taking the time and expense!!
Hey David thank you for watching hope it was helpful please let us know what type of bike you ride Bro. We would love to know what type of HP you get from Machine. Keep Chasing 299
@@Chasing299 I'm running a 2013 Ducati Monster 696, went down a tooth on the front sprocket 15t to 14t for better acceleration, and swapped the slip ons, with as discussed a sc project replica exhaust with logo hidden, and purchased Racing Motorcycle 51mm Exhaust Muffler Baffle Silencer DB Killer - Flat Tip. When I have numbers I'll pass them along 😊😊
@@PauloBriggs1 hey so I talked to Ducati and they said not worth getting tuned. Slip ons dont change the compression enough that thr money would be worth it or wreck the bike
Like what I speculated before, we are just only buying the name and it adds a lot to the price tag. Just a simple thing made of metal sheets and putting a high price tag is ridiculous. This is also the same thing about helmets, even the much cheaper helmets of not so popular brands are at par or even performs better according to test results. Again, it's just a name.
I do agree mate Ive been using and buying fake exhaust. And yes you are right about helmets too just for example the scorpion exo r420 is dot and snell approve. And some agv helmets are 250$ yet only has dot approve
Yup. That's why I bought Delkevic muffler: cheap, very well made and best DB killer setup. Dont understand why pay more for crappy Akra or SC for ex. I use MT helmets and replace after every crash. Great helmets. Only ventilation in more expensive brands seem a bit better sometimes
ehhh its not really just name....its materials...they arent real titanium so u do get cheaper stuff and heavier....but they are still good af forknock offs
So, lookng at this tests, one thing jumps out with both, dumping the stock CAN, and replacing it with an loud after market name brand or china version, it will kick up the performance/BHP by the good amount 😁
Videos are kind of old so I doubt ill get a responce. But I was told I did not need a tune if I only added a slip on. with a simple slipon without a tune mess up my bikes performance?
but then, different bike gonna yield different results. My Ducati Monster 1100 evo stock exhaust is pretty light with very little restriction at the end can. The cat is located in the mid pipe, so swapping the end can with after markets wont make much of a difference in performance except for the looks and sound of course. ANyways great effort on putting the bike on dyno for some real results.
@@Chasing299 kind a half assed test no? Of corse theres going to be only a small power difference if all you’re doing is trying different silencers bud. Silencers add no horsepower whatsover, as seen by these results.. a bit let down by this test..
I got a gsx 650 f but mine is limited 2 years. I can't tune nothing, just exhaust. It's a "fake" one bad with just 45HP? I hear no stock exhaust make the bike go worse at low revs, so it's even worst with a "fake" one? Ty :)
What we discovered is without a tune the exhaust will make your bike run rich or lean. This will send the bike out of wack. Power commanders are a good option for bikes without fly-by wire. Hope this helps
Subscribed. Thinking of slapping on a full exhaust on my R15, mostly so I can go find the right muffler that will make me happy. I can't chase 299 yet but will do when I get a bigger bike!
I also have an r15 and was wondering, do you need to remap/tune the ecu when changing full system exhaust even though it doesnt have a cat? Because i keep hearing that "its only a 150cc bike so its ok without a remap" but im afraid of damaging my engine and hard to find a tuner here in my country, so im asking if you can help me. Thankyou :)
@@michaeljohn5130 Actually you don't be producing very much gains with just an exhaust. It makes better sense to have a remapped or race ecu then slap on an exhaust system. I still have my stock exhaust, and I'm making the most of the bike since it's plenty fast enough for our narrow and twisty mountain roads.
Shame the last run was stuffed up with the stock pipe. Rpm measurement is wrong which makes it useless to compare with the other 2. With the stock pipe it revved to 14500rpm? While rev limit cut in at 13000 for the 2 other runs. Someone stuffed up there. Also, you can't get a proper a/f reading from a sensor chucked in the end of the standard pipe with a cat, so that a/f reading is not a true representation at all.
@@Chasing299 and if the bike has been tuned for a non cat pipe, it was always going to run really bad with the stock pipe, with fuelling tuned for a non cat pipe.
@@theonlynorton don't know what the rev limiter was set to but we do agree with your statement on fueling. The stock pipe was doomed to fail from the start. We were surprised to see what a difference it was because if small adjustments to fueling made that much of a difference it could be said that tuning your bike is more important then the pipe itself.
@@Chasing299 with a lot of modern bikes, a tuned bike with standard exhaust is comparable to a non tuned bike with an aftermarket exhaust. Fuel injected bikes don't suddenly increase in power with an aftermaket exhaust. Mt10 for example loses power with an aftermarket pipe. Once tuned, people get that power back and are happy with their amazing gains. But they rarely have a stock run to compare to. I've seen tuned standard mt10 power and graphs that are extremely close to tuned de cat systems.
We determend that it's not so much the pipe but the tune that makes the real difference. If your on a budget get the cheapest pipe and pay for a good tune 😁
@@Chasing299 thanks man Ive done CVT tuning, planning to make it faster without boring up, there's a lot of 150cc ECU tuners here I'm just doubting that it might give me an headache aren't they?? Does ECU tuning needs a maintenance tuning like tuning it time to time?
This test only compares silencers man, and the header pipes are the same for both tests..not good man.. the conclusion is still inconclusive until tested properly.
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$850 for an akrapovic or $150 for a replica and only lose 2HP.. I'll save the $700 and put it into other mods.. thank you
Thank you guys very much, with your information and another great comparison video I found, I just installed Chinese exhaust on my bike with logo facing in so I'm not even fake repping the brand and it's much deeper and way louder. Not worth the money grab for me to buy named brand type for me. If my less expensive one breakdown I can buy 6 cheaper ones from China for the cost of one brand name. With your information I'll definitely add an air filter and get it dyno tuned asap. Thanks for taking the time and expense!!
Hey David thank you for watching hope it was helpful please let us know what type of bike you ride Bro. We would love to know what type of HP you get from Machine. Keep Chasing 299
@@Chasing299 I'm running a 2013 Ducati Monster 696, went down a tooth on the front sprocket 15t to 14t for better acceleration, and swapped the slip ons, with as discussed a sc project replica exhaust with logo hidden, and purchased Racing Motorcycle 51mm Exhaust Muffler Baffle Silencer DB Killer - Flat Tip. When I have numbers I'll pass them along 😊😊
@@davhews1 sweet dude we are so glad this video was helpful for someone. Let us know how the numbers turn out
@@davhews1 Did you have to get it tuned or can you just add the exhaust and ride ? I am thinking of getting the exhaust and throwing it on my Ducati
@@PauloBriggs1 hey so I talked to Ducati and they said not worth getting tuned. Slip ons dont change the compression enough that thr money would be worth it or wreck the bike
Like what I speculated before, we are just only buying the name and it adds a lot to the price tag. Just a simple thing made of metal sheets and putting a high price tag is ridiculous. This is also the same thing about helmets, even the much cheaper helmets of not so popular brands are at par or even performs better according to test results. Again, it's just a name.
I do agree mate
Ive been using and buying fake exhaust. And yes you are right about helmets too just for example the scorpion exo r420 is dot and snell approve. And some agv helmets are 250$ yet only has dot approve
Yup. That's why I bought Delkevic muffler: cheap, very well made and best DB killer setup. Dont understand why pay more for crappy Akra or SC for ex. I use MT helmets and replace after every crash. Great helmets. Only ventilation in more expensive brands seem a bit better sometimes
ehhh its not really just name....its materials...they arent real titanium so u do get cheaper stuff and heavier....but they are still good af forknock offs
It's research and design something new stands behind the name.
Arai helmet are definitely worth the price. Just look up how they test their helmets and QC.
So, lookng at this tests, one thing jumps out with both, dumping the stock CAN, and replacing it with an loud after market name brand or china version, it will kick up the performance/BHP by the good amount 😁
Videos are kind of old so I doubt ill get a responce. But I was told I did not need a tune if I only added a slip on. with a simple slipon without a tune mess up my bikes performance?
better MICs would have helped with the audio
I just go for the slightly used legit ones being sold on ebay for the same or sometimes less than the price of a replica
They are never cheaper used than a replica get real. Unless the pipe is absolutely wrecked, dented and rusted it's still overpriced
What’s the song in the background? It’s so mellow and upbeat at the same time. Haha
Two girls one cup
Good job boys 😎
Thank man 🤙
What about the o2 sensor? Just cut it off?
Some bikes you can replace by plug or just cut the wires. Some you need to flash ecu or buy O2 eliminator so no faultcodes appear
Go straight to 2:30 to miss the crappy music video!!
but then, different bike gonna yield different results. My Ducati Monster 1100 evo stock exhaust is pretty light with very little restriction at the end can. The cat is located in the mid pipe, so swapping the end can with after markets wont make much of a difference in performance except for the looks and sound of course. ANyways great effort on putting the bike on dyno for some real results.
Thanks for watching. Each bike have there own things that make them unique and for that reason this is definitely not a comprehensive test.
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You mean if I put that exhaust on my Ninja 400 I won't make 170whp?! What a scam *shocked face* . No really thank you captain obvious.
@@Tiralful mate, u high?
What were the headers that they ran, test I assume was only the mufflers
Test was on link pipe and slip on. headers were the same.
@@Chasing299 The headers are where the efficieny would be found, were they after market like Yoshi/Akro/AR etc or just the stock pipes
@@robc3757 stock pipes I believe. Maybe Chinese but not name branded
@@Chasing299 kind a half assed test no? Of corse theres going to be only a small power difference if all you’re doing is trying different silencers bud. Silencers add no horsepower whatsover, as seen by these results.. a bit let down by this test..
I got a gsx 650 f but mine is limited 2 years. I can't tune nothing, just exhaust. It's a "fake" one bad with just 45HP? I hear no stock exhaust make the bike go worse at low revs, so it's even worst with a "fake" one? Ty :)
What we discovered is without a tune the exhaust will make your bike run rich or lean. This will send the bike out of wack. Power commanders are a good option for bikes without fly-by wire. Hope this helps
@@Chasing299 it does ty :)
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Subscribed. Thinking of slapping on a full exhaust on my R15, mostly so I can go find the right muffler that will make me happy. I can't chase 299 yet but will do when I get a bigger bike!
Dude save your money for your big boy bike. The power gain is not worth the money.
@@Chasing299 most likely not in the big picture, but it will still be loads of fun!
@@jojobaluyot1198 Haha it always fun modding your bike.
I also have an r15 and was wondering, do you need to remap/tune the ecu when changing full system exhaust even though it doesnt have a cat? Because i keep hearing that "its only a 150cc bike so its ok without a remap" but im afraid of damaging my engine and hard to find a tuner here in my country, so im asking if you can help me. Thankyou :)
@@michaeljohn5130 Actually you don't be producing very much gains with just an exhaust. It makes better sense to have a remapped or race ecu then slap on an exhaust system. I still have my stock exhaust, and I'm making the most of the bike since it's plenty fast enough for our narrow and twisty mountain roads.
ok lets see complete exhausts now
Go chuang
Shame the last run was stuffed up with the stock pipe. Rpm measurement is wrong which makes it useless to compare with the other 2. With the stock pipe it revved to 14500rpm? While rev limit cut in at 13000 for the 2 other runs. Someone stuffed up there. Also, you can't get a proper a/f reading from a sensor chucked in the end of the standard pipe with a cat, so that a/f reading is not a true representation at all.
Sure makes sense. Do you reckon the other 2 were accurate tho ?
@@Chasing299 what rpm does the rev limit kick in on that bike? The runs with correct rpm would be accurate.
@@Chasing299 and if the bike has been tuned for a non cat pipe, it was always going to run really bad with the stock pipe, with fuelling tuned for a non cat pipe.
@@theonlynorton don't know what the rev limiter was set to but we do agree with your statement on fueling. The stock pipe was doomed to fail from the start. We were surprised to see what a difference it was because if small adjustments to fueling made that much of a difference it could be said that tuning your bike is more important then the pipe itself.
@@Chasing299 with a lot of modern bikes, a tuned bike with standard exhaust is comparable to a non tuned bike with an aftermarket exhaust. Fuel injected bikes don't suddenly increase in power with an aftermaket exhaust. Mt10 for example loses power with an aftermarket pipe. Once tuned, people get that power back and are happy with their amazing gains. But they rarely have a stock run to compare to. I've seen tuned standard mt10 power and graphs that are extremely close to tuned de cat systems.
soo fake exhaust are beter??
We determend that it's not so much the pipe but the tune that makes the real difference. If your on a budget get the cheapest pipe and pay for a good tune 😁
Just changing pipe needs tune sir? What tune do you mean sir? Ecu tuning?I have 155cc scooter :)
@@nullifyingacid4507 ecu tune is the best for big bikes 600cc up not sure about yours. Could be good to try
@@Chasing299 thanks man Ive done CVT tuning, planning to make it faster without boring up, there's a lot of 150cc ECU tuners here I'm just doubting that it might give me an headache aren't they?? Does ECU tuning needs a maintenance tuning like tuning it time to time?
@@nullifyingacid4507 no maintenance required should just be a once off if it's done right the first time.
The Chinese brand exhaust does not measure back pressure on their R and D. I've blown many engines because of Chinese exhaust.
Glutton for punishment. You like to blow engines or what? Many engines from the same components that you believe don’t work……. Bizarre .
This test only compares silencers man, and the header pipes are the same for both tests..not good man.. the conclusion is still inconclusive until tested properly.