Plz show link brooooo I have a 2024 r1 and ain't looking to drop 800 bucks on a midpipe and tip called sc project although it sound phenomenal, rather spend the 800 bucks on something else like dyno tune and ect.. 👀
what could possibly be the cost for a $1000 bike exhaust.. they are not using anything on that exhaust that could cost that much.. you are just buying vacation homes for those who charge that much...
You pay for the documents that come with the exhaust. Those documents prove to the technical inspector that the exhaust is legal. And the 100 dollar exhaust doesn't have it.
@micah.80665 I just found this on AliExpress: RSD4,870.46 | Slip-on for BMW S1000-RR 2017 2018 Exhaust Middle Link Pipe Carbon Fiber 51mm Muffler Escape Heat Shield DB Killer a.aliexpress.com/_Ewgmrn2
I've always tried to preach how a lot of exhaust options for westerners is half marketing and half extra effort on quality+materials. Having lived in southeast Asia for ten years now I've gotten to see the other side of the price spectrum and how people can make nearly identical stuff to the brand names while still achieving the same sound results (let's be real no one really cares about the 1hp gain from expensive stuff besides track people). The technology of the systems are pretty simple. Header pipes are non-negotiable so follow the blue print, mid pipe allows for creativity, and end pipe should have fiberglass packing and a baffle. None of this is space age tech it's all really cheap for the people running the factories in China. If you're chasing the sound it becomes absurd to choose a $1000+ usd full system when you can get within 90+% quality of sound with a $300 clone full system.
You are wrong by a lot! Western goods they will be more expensive all the time. They are so many equations between an original part made in West and the knock off made in Asia. Knock offs are just simply copied, cheap labor, cheap materials, they don't spend money on research and design, they don't follow rough regulations, documentations, approves and all kind of stuff. Of course all of this will reflect in the price of the goods that you are buying. Yes, maybe 1000$ full titanium system will sound absurd for you but when you buy 1000$ system you are guaranteed that you will buy the best quality available on the market!
The bike itself is doing that,it is caused by Secondary Air System (PAIR),in simple words bike is dumping fresh air in the exhaust in attempt to burn unused fuel and pass the regulations.
@@Motogents 😂Are you sure? I know bikes that have already been tuned will learn a new exhaust like if you change from a different exhaust.I didn’t know that a stock bike will just learn the new slip on or exhaust?K would still want to tune it because it will make the bike run really rich ?
I just bought the ebay stubby to slip on my SC PROJECT exhaust that came with my RS660 EXTREMA. I absolutely hate that the EXTREMA came with a permanent baffle.
He's short enough that there won't be much difference in performance, if he were long the resonance would make him sound different The front part of the fake exhaust pipe is not accurate enough so I would go with the expensive one
Yes it turned blue buy it’s self,bmw bike are known for running lean and because of that they are pretty hot,after one canyon ride it is already turned bluish,do you have full system or just slip-on?
Meh. Id rather spend the extra money for a nunber of reasons: im getting something i KNOW will fit perfect from a company who will honor their warranty. If i have questions or concerns about the product i can pick up the phone and talk to someone that speaks english... I researched exhausts for my Z400 for months. The SC P was hands down the best sounding by a long shot off all the brand name companies i was able to find and have a listen to. I spent less than $1000 n got the full system. Couldn't be happier. Could i have spent less money and got a similar sound? Its possible. But i just prefer not to cut corners when shopping for parts and building project fars/bikes. Most of these chinese knock off companies dont even have sound clips of their exhausts posted anywhere so that makes committing to those brands that much harder if you cant hear em first hand or in a video at the very least. From a morality standpoint, it's pretty much a slap in the face to those better quality companies that spend the time and money doing R&D to then go out and buy the shitty knock off version. Not that many people care these days, but lets just say you developed something badass or something hella useful for a motorcycle and you wanna brand and market it, then a shitty rep company comes around copies your home work so-to-speak n sells YOUR hard work for pennies to the dollar. You'd feel some type of way i guarantee it.
I agree with all that you said,but you are forgetting something it is after all a piece of pipe,if sc project didn’t charge 1000 bucks for something that cost them 100 bucks the knockoffs would not exist. And believe me everything you buy from china will fit as the original part because they are just cloning the thing.
@Motogents 😆😆😆😆nah fam you wrong for that one hahah, I've purchased enough cheapy low end parts in my day to know not to trust someone on the internet telling me "it'll fit fine" 😅 At the end of the day, I paid a lot of money for my bike, I dont mind spending a little extra for brand name performance parts.
I will say though, $1k for a lil slip on can is EXCESSIVE, I wouldn't pay that just for a slip on.. I paid a little under $1k for the SC Project full exhaust w header for my 23 Z400. There isn't a better sounding exhaust for this little bike out there and I'll put money on that even though it's just my opinion lol.
If there is issue with the 50 dollars one, u can buy another 9 more before break even with the sc project. Sc project charges a lot for a short slip On is only because they sell their brand, marketing department doing its job.
Pretty impressed and very upset. Let's get real here, not worth the $900 difference just for showing off. But at the end its your money, not trying to hate with my comment
I totally agree with that,in the end it is just a pipe. SC Project looks very nice in titanium and carbon but it is very overpriced, if you just chasing sound eBay copy is good enough.
I dont hear a difference to be honest, that copy is a bargain for 50 bucks..thanks for the video and cheers from Costa Rica🙂
yes just for certification is missing, some TUV just dont let you pass it if you dont have it :)
Doing God's work, man! Gonna grab me some knockoffs.
Tnx brother 👊
I highly recommend some knockoffs they are damn fine for the money 😄
Thanks for the video. Just got myself a fake Austin Racing exhaust and midpipe for my R1. Also got myself an Austin Racing sticker for it haha
Plz show link brooooo I have a 2024 r1 and ain't looking to drop 800 bucks on a midpipe and tip called sc project although it sound phenomenal, rather spend the 800 bucks on something else like dyno tune and ect.. 👀
Will it damage the engine?
@dpgamez6841 mah man ,you are good 👊
what could possibly be the cost for a $1000 bike exhaust.. they are not using anything on that exhaust that could cost that much.. you are just buying vacation homes for those who charge that much...
You pay for the documents that come with the exhaust. Those documents prove to the technical inspector that the exhaust is legal. And the 100 dollar exhaust doesn't have it.
Yeah, you're just buying vacation homes for the inspector who only "Inspect" it @@sayan1667
@@sayan1667 Both exhaust are not street legal so ...
@ricardsoler7500 They are in Serbia 😂😂😂
S.s. vs titanium
That´s with or without DB killer for the Austin Racing?
Without DB mate 👊
I like them both for different reasons. I love the low tone of the real one, but the fake one sounds like an F1 car and I love that sound.
The fake ebay ones are great. Previous owner of my bike added one, and I kept it until a car hit me and scuffed it up.
Yeap i agree for the money they sound great,and the build quality is awsome .
What about the riding feel & performance. Any negative effects? Cheers
sounds pretty awesome im waiting to add my fake sc project onto my street triple
Yeah it sounds great for the money.
Any issue with the fake one, needs tuning? And which air filter do you use👀
@@HmmIDLIsambar i had stock air filter no issues at all but i had it tuned on my street triple
the question is is it different in performance wise
the only difference is the exhaust loose and moving by vibration, and a minimal metal rattling sound
Any fake exhaust seems to sound better than straight pipe or those radiant cycle shorty pipes😊
Brate moze link gde si kupio? Uzeo bih i ja...
How do we find this exact one on eBay? When I search Austin Racing a ton pull up
I will try to find the link
thank u!!!
@micah.80665 bro i found it 👊
@micah.80665 I just found this on AliExpress:
RSD4,870.46 | Slip-on for BMW S1000-RR 2017 2018 Exhaust Middle Link Pipe Carbon Fiber 51mm Muffler Escape Heat Shield DB Killer
a.aliexpress.com/_Ewgmrn2
Since using the eBay fake one… did the bike threw any engine light ?? Also is that full exhaust or just the slip ons ?
It is just a slip-on so no engine light 👊
It’ll throw a light regardless if authentic or fake. You need to add what they call a Servo Buddy then it’ll remove the light.
do you have a link for this exhaust
I've always tried to preach how a lot of exhaust options for westerners is half marketing and half extra effort on quality+materials.
Having lived in southeast Asia for ten years now I've gotten to see the other side of the price spectrum and how people can make nearly identical stuff to the brand names while still achieving the same sound results (let's be real no one really cares about the 1hp gain from expensive stuff besides track people).
The technology of the systems are pretty simple. Header pipes are non-negotiable so follow the blue print, mid pipe allows for creativity, and end pipe should have fiberglass packing and a baffle. None of this is space age tech it's all really cheap for the people running the factories in China.
If you're chasing the sound it becomes absurd to choose a $1000+ usd full system when you can get within 90+% quality of sound with a $300 clone full system.
here in the philippines the fake austins costs 10USD hahahahahaha a full system would prob cost 100USD still cheap hahaha
Man you are living in dream land that is for sure 🤣
You are wrong by a lot!
Western goods they will be more expensive all the time.
They are so many equations between an original part made in West and the knock off made in Asia.
Knock offs are just simply copied, cheap labor, cheap materials, they don't spend money on research and design, they don't follow rough regulations, documentations, approves and all kind of stuff.
Of course all of this will reflect in the price of the goods that you are buying. Yes, maybe 1000$ full titanium system will sound absurd for you but when you buy 1000$ system you are guaranteed that you will buy the best quality available on the market!
How do you get that pop at the end of the rev?
The bike itself is doing that,it is caused by Secondary Air System (PAIR),in simple words bike is dumping fresh air in the exhaust in attempt to burn unused fuel and pass the regulations.
@@Motogents The bike does it by itself when the water hit 60°C.Tips to be quiet in city street ! drive it in rain mode it cancel the pop
Can I just upmap it after or take to shop to tune the ECU for the exhaust?
Any ECU related stuff can be done later,bike will work just fine without flash 👊
@@Motogents 😂Are you sure? I know bikes that have already been tuned will learn a new exhaust like if you change from a different exhaust.I didn’t know that a stock bike will just learn the new slip on or exhaust?K would still want to tune it because it will make the bike run really rich ?
For 50 bucks, I ain’t complaining 😂
Even for 120 $ i think it is still good product 😂
I am not sure who has 1000€ for the slip on
You must've been lucky to buy this pipe 🤣😂
I purchased a set for my Hayabusa sounds amazing!. Until i install a full exhaust im leaving them on .
Nice. Do you have a link to this eBay seller ?
Oh i think i don have it anymore but I will checkout and get back to you.👊
Nice bike. Just want to ask if there is any harm to the engine if we use slip on muffler
Tnx man,nah you are completely safe with slip-on.
@@Motogents Many thanks man
No biggie, what bike do you ride ?
@@Motogents I'm riding a Ducati Monster 821 Dark 2016 😀
Does the fake stay in place without a hanger while riding??? 😮
yes depending on how its set up, i had a fake austin racing and it stayed in place on my s1000rr and its loud and shoots flames
link for the exhaust
€ 58,94 20％ Off | S1000RR 2017 2018 Slip-on Exhaust Middle Link Pipe Carb
a.aliexpress.com/_m0fuvs6
I just bought the ebay stubby to slip on my SC PROJECT exhaust that came with my RS660 EXTREMA. I absolutely hate that the EXTREMA came with a permanent baffle.
Mislio sam da ce fake biti pre glasan i odvratan zvuk al ovo je vrh!! Imas li link od fake aupuha?
U brate odlično se čuje skoro pa identično ka SC project sad ću pokušati da nadjem link .
@@Motogents ajde hvala
For 1000 bucks, I would expect a full system, not just a slip on!!
You are damn right buddy,but someone got to pay those MotoGP stickers on theirs bikes 🥹😟🤔
Both are great but a lot of popcorn effects in the original pipe
Yeah that is side effect of the secondary air injection system (PAIR), but i kinda like it to ne honest 😂
Sadly that non of the fake once have ece nunbers so you cant really use them in Europe.
Yeap that is true 🥲
Can I have that fake austin racing tip?
Unfortunately it is already sold 😢
1000 $ make from gold?
You are paying the brand 😢
Wow
This video was helpfull
All I can hear, is that the original is a bit deeper in the sound.
Yeap you heard correctly,that is only difference 😀
SC sounds like two feet tap dancing.,,, the fake sounds like one foot tap dancing.
Hahahahahahgahah legend 😂
He's short enough that there won't be much difference in performance, if he were long the resonance would make him sound different
The front part of the fake exhaust pipe is not accurate enough so I would go with the expensive one
Its perfect exhaust for pravac majstori 🤭
Wtf??
Its the same sound.
Very very close,in person you can hear the slight difference but nothing major.
Close your eyes see if you can tell difference..?
I could tell the difference with close eyes 🤣
@@Motogents thats because you know the sound of the SC.. but to us there is no difference..
Did your exhaust turn blue on it own or did you treat and blue it yourself? Ps I have a titanium sc projects on a r6
Yes it turned blue buy it’s self,bmw bike are known for running lean and because of that they are pretty hot,after one canyon ride it is already turned bluish,do you have full system or just slip-on?
Awesome it has akrapovic headers and matched it with the Sc slip on. I haven't really pushed her in the Canyons yet buy I will she sounds amazing 😍
Ohhh that is a perfect combination,that will scream in the mountains,I always wonder why sc project doesn’t make headers 😕
Glad I bought the ebay one
If we take price in consideration you have made the right choice 😁
Dude some guy did a dyno test and the knock off had a better performance 😅vs real
C’mon really,thats fucking hilarious 😂
SC titanium all day!
Yeap I agree 😀
I prefer the called Fake " . But it's not a fake is a real one !!!
Sc sound’s slightly better sure not worth 950 more
That is for sure brother 👊
these are loud as fuck people. know that before you buy them. you can hear them from 6 blocks away
Yeah I agree with that,I almost got banned from race track 😂
Yeah fuck premium brands, no way I'd pay 1k$ for a freaking slip on exhaust that can't harm the bike since the cat is still there.
Absolutely same from my point of view
And from mine too 🤣
Lo mismo escucho yo o esque soy el único que tengo mal el oído 😮😮😮😮
i felt that fake sounded much better
Nice 👌🏻 love from Pakistan 🇵🇰
Thank you so much 👊
Hahaha just the video i need
👊✊💨
I love fake exhauste
Дио прэзыдэнт Блаттэр, колигз оф зэ эгзэкутив комити.
Лец ми спик фром май харт ин инглиш.
Май фрэнц, тудэй из э юник момент ин тайм, боуф фо май кантри энд фо фИфа.
Раша репрезенц итс нью харайнзытц фо фИфа.
Раша минз э биг промоушен оф ауа эгейн
Fake one absorbe bad sounds
Maybe,in the flash they really matched in terms of sound 👊
Kdje si narucio
One difference....Price😂
same sound and same quality ,
That is correct 😂
The real coffee can exhausts are overpriced lol😂
They are bro,it’s like they made from vibranium god damn 🤣
The 50 bucks is more better! 😂
I love cats.
We eat cat😂
50 € 💪🏽
👊✊💨
Meh. Id rather spend the extra money for a nunber of reasons: im getting something i KNOW will fit perfect from a company who will honor their warranty. If i have questions or concerns about the product i can pick up the phone and talk to someone that speaks english...
I researched exhausts for my Z400 for months. The SC P was hands down the best sounding by a long shot off all the brand name companies i was able to find and have a listen to. I spent less than $1000 n got the full system. Couldn't be happier. Could i have spent less money and got a similar sound? Its possible. But i just prefer not to cut corners when shopping for parts and building project fars/bikes.
Most of these chinese knock off companies dont even have sound clips of their exhausts posted anywhere so that makes committing to those brands that much harder if you cant hear em first hand or in a video at the very least.
From a morality standpoint, it's pretty much a slap in the face to those better quality companies that spend the time and money doing R&D to then go out and buy the shitty knock off version. Not that many people care these days, but lets just say you developed something badass or something hella useful for a motorcycle and you wanna brand and market it, then a shitty rep company comes around copies your home work so-to-speak n sells YOUR hard work for pennies to the dollar. You'd feel some type of way i guarantee it.
I agree with all that you said,but you are forgetting something it is after all a piece of pipe,if sc project didn’t charge 1000 bucks for something that cost them 100 bucks the knockoffs would not exist.
And believe me everything you buy from china will fit as the original part because they are just cloning the thing.
@Motogents 😆😆😆😆nah fam you wrong for that one hahah, I've purchased enough cheapy low end parts in my day to know not to trust someone on the internet telling me "it'll fit fine" 😅
At the end of the day, I paid a lot of money for my bike, I dont mind spending a little extra for brand name performance parts.
I will say though, $1k for a lil slip on can is EXCESSIVE, I wouldn't pay that just for a slip on.. I paid a little under $1k for the SC Project full exhaust w header for my 23 Z400. There isn't a better sounding exhaust for this little bike out there and I'll put money on that even though it's just my opinion lol.
If there is issue with the 50 dollars one, u can buy another 9 more before break even with the sc project.
Sc project charges a lot for a short slip On is only because they sell their brand, marketing department doing its job.
Mesma coisa mas mais barato 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Pretty impressed and very upset.
Let's get real here, not worth the $900 difference just for showing off.
But at the end its your money, not trying to hate with my comment
I totally agree with that,in the end it is just a pipe.
SC Project looks very nice in titanium and carbon but it is very overpriced, if you just chasing sound eBay copy is good enough.
Real one is better
It god damn should be 🤣
same shit, go aliexpresssssssssss
sounds identical lol
Yeap it is identical 🤣
It’s the same😂😂😂😂
Yeah kinda is 😂😂😂😂😂