@@whywhowhatwhere excuses 😂. Y’all internet fans don’t support or buy artist music it’s that simple. Y’all only support on the internet. Y’all really need to hang that nobody buys albums anymore excuse because thats not true. Streaming counts too so it’s really no excuse to flop if anything it’s easier for the new artist.
@@whywhowhatwhere the excuses. Melanie Martinez did 99k PURE sales and 160k altogether with streams. I’m not saying Chloe should have those numbers but her fans did not support like they screamed. They said she would outdo ungodly hour. In Pieces did 10k LESS than Ungodly Hour.
Chloe "fans" have been doing everything in their power to self-destruct that girl. Black youtubers making 1000 videos calling her flop everytime she breathes to ride ad revenue and priming people psychologically to hate chloe by repeating similar phrases over and over like forced sexuality until people are primed to respond with it even on her album where she is literally sitting down at a piano belting fully clothed, etc. Cancelling chloe for collabing with chris brown while not cancelling ANYONE else such as normani, h.e.r., etc (they criticized them but they were trying to like fully cancel chloe). She needs to crossover and make pop STAT and get away from these hating fans. She sounded good with the in pieces song.
No it’s not her fans saying that .. it’s people like you who been dragging her and belittling her is what caused this for her, and as for many of our black artist , y’all don’t support their music and it’s getting tiring .. y’all are always around to share y’all think pieces but y’all don’t support them,, whether it was good or not, we should’ve push her album to the top, we need to stop doing this to our black artist.. then when theses awards Shows comes along we get mad because they don’t win awards and this is the causes of that.. Y’all don’t buy music .. take Taylor swift for example: Her music ain’t all that, but the white community makes sure she gets her accolades, they ain’t running tot the internet giving their free opinion, they are out streaming … and then y’all complain when they win all these awards.. we need to stop being so dysfunctional with our black creators.
@@crispri3919 Oh yeah.. I been saying that.. She needs to get away from this negative black community and I say cuz it’s them - in the Shaderoom and these black bloggers, you right on that topic 💯.. she needs to pull a Nas, Lizzo, and Doja.. it’s the only she will succeed .. she needs to ditch them, then later you’ll hear “Oh she caters to white people” Oh it’s cuz y’all don’t support her, ya hate her, for what reason? We don’t know 🤔 but they keep spewing hate about her.. she needs to ditch them…
The problem is we have seen chloe do more creative things with her sister so this solo album is her stooping down to what mainstream artists do and we don’t want it from her.
@@txfxribut why are you comparing it to ungodly hour? Chloe and Halle are completely different then CHLOE as a solo artist. Y’a stay treating that girl like she’s 18. She’s a grown woman who wants to try different things creatively and she has the talent and the creativity to do that. Chloe and Halle are one unit and Chloe (the soloist) is a different thing.
@@torikpop822 lolll I fully recognize shes grown, And you’re not wrong about her being able to be creative and experimental with her work, but if she said it out of her own mouth that it took 3 different iterations for the album to finally be what it is now, and then only sell 10,000 copies(which I don’t think is representative of her talent at all, she deserves way more) it might be time to go back to the drawing board. There’s a general consensus that the album does not match her ever evolving capabilities, it is not a diss like how it sounds
Eggzacklee. I hate to compare but Coco Jones doesn’t make groundbreaking music yet her music is still A1 even though it’s familiar and nothing “new” tbh I can’t connect to Chloe at all as an artist anymore…. The kids are alright Chloe X Halle was my shiiih she should’ve rode with that and build her fan base on that! The whole indie/unique music her and Halle made. I was obsessed. They had their own lane. Then “Do IT” and ungodly hour came. Even better!!
@@Jess-ew3tm had she stuck with that her videos would still be getting 300 views per upload lol. Look at this album. How many views does that future song video have. Now look at the video with her fully clothed at piano sanging flat footed and compare how many views does that video have. It is like T-pain said. Everyone wants him to sing without autotune but people don't actually know what they want because his stuff blows up with autotune. She goes back to singing that stuff and everyone dissapears because people love to hate and it generates clicks. I think she needs to go even harder and cut out the ungodly hour fanbase because she will never be able to crossover and do pop or anything else until she gets rid of the cancerous fans who will hold her back, follow her name around and get digs and make 1000 videos everytime she even breathes let alone drop a song calling her a flop and expecting her to just recreate ungodly hour every time she makes a song. She can't grow past ungodly hour or the kids are alright if people don't let her stumble. Back in the day there wasn't as much internet and people just listened to what was given and liked or quietly disliked it. Now everybody is a wannabe journalist and make videos calling people flops and every commenter is a music critic, pr marketing firm, vocal coach, music theorist, even graphic designer down to people literally criticizing her album cover!!! Before she even dropped anything people were really going in about the album cover. I bet most of these people dont even rememebr the album cover from their favorite albums. At some point we need to acknowledge that there is some clear trickery going on to sway public opinion against chloe
Chloe just needs a few good writers to help her, a good producer, and to just be authentically her because the Summer Walker/Sza esque vibe just isn't for her. But I do hope to see her improve and succeed in the future.
Chloe needs to partner with songwriter/producer to help her refine her sound and sharpen her pen. Chloe has found herself nor has she found what type of music she wants to make. And it is obvious to the audience.
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People forget that Beyoncé is her own person and brand! She’s the head of the label, that doesn’t mean she personally had her hands in every single piece. It is a huge difference, just like how some of you work for a companies and have mishaps but it’s not the CEO’s fault lol.
@@KingOfThePirates101 she did tho? Beyonce’s job (from Parkwood) is managing her, like she did, as Chloe was booked and busy from performances, interviews ecc.
I just watched this video. Blaming Beyoncé is stupid. Beyoncé owns the label but Chloe has a pr machine behind her. She is getting a lot more help than most new artists. She’s just not connecting. People don’t like her for some reason.
If I was Chloe Bailey I’d work on just releasing small EPs or work on movie and/or tv show soundtracks like Beyoncé did for the lion king or her sister Hallie did for the little mermaid!!!!
It’s because of Beyoncé that Chloe *prematurely* booked the VMAs. Got Pepsi commercials. And received as much hype as she did. We all know she never would’ve got those opportunities so quickly without Beyoncé & Parkwood.
Listening to the radio and a DJ said Chloe album sales flopped due to her fans not buying. He's right, but when you have nearly six million followers on IG and others platforms, something is not adding up.
One thing I noticed is that people stay super envious of Beyonce. I'm shocked by all the women I've heard trashing her over the years. Yet I've seen Beyonce advocate for strong women and female empowerment plenty of times, even if not spoken, then in her music. And the crazy thing is it shows how messy women can be when I'm a guy and I haven't even listened to most of her songs and I realize all this yet a whole lot of women disrespect her.
Talk about it. They mad cause she stay unbothered. She drops her art and let it speak for itself. That lady has better shit to do then to try pleasing haters.
Understand that it's not just beyonce. The system want beyonce, riri, Taylor, nicki, and all the legends gone so that they can promote these mediocre 360 deal new artist. It's all bout making money and promoting mediocrity within the music industry. I'm so glad after all these years, to.still see all these women thriving in their careers and making their OWN decisions, something th3se new artist just can't do
@@torikpop822 Right and what’s with the “Beyoncé should have promoted her album” bull? Like what ever happened to making your way to the top? They just want her to get free handouts now. How is that gonna help her grow as an artist? 🤦🏽♀️
People just say anything about Beyoncé because she doesn’t give anything for people to talk about . Miserable asf . And she’s one of our people . A black women . One of the most successful women ever to live , let’s start respecting our legends because the stuff y’all come up with the internet is sad . But if she were to ever die , she would all of a sudden be the best to ever walk earth
Bey is giving them freedom to make mistakes by there selves carryons there careers would be easy and pointless that’s why Chloe is able to release when ever she wants and any kind of music
No, she waited too long to drop the album. She should have dropped it right after Have Mercy had it’s viral moment. With Treat Me as the second single on release day.
She went solo too soon. She does not know what type of music she wants to make, what type of audience she wants to have. Being older and a little more successful in her duo would have given her time to better develop a sound and style. releasing an album after Have Mercy when Treat Me didn't do that well would not have bode well at all for the album. Surprise did worst. For the Night did worst. She would have sold higher in the first week and then the album would have plummeted on Billboard.
I wonder how the outcome would’ve change had she kept it as a pop album instead of redoing it to an r&b album especially when the album came out during spring break for a lot of people
It’s simple , the music isn’t good , her fans keep complaining about promo when Chloe has literally been everywhere since and before the album dropped , everyday there is a new interview dropping on top of performances , say it for what it is the music isn’t good and has no replay value !!!
Chloe is signed under Beyoncé and I’m pretty sure they offered her help with the best writers/producers. It might just be Chloe’s deliverance and her album was all over the place. Instead she needed to put Have Mercy, Treat Me, and Surprise on the album.
CxH are signed to Parkwood and Columbia Records. Columbia is in charge of the music side. Of course they get advice and mentorship from B on a music tip, BUT Parkwood is doing their job. The movies, brand deals, major tv shows, etc. is all Parkwood. Beyonce gave Chloe x Halle creative freedom to do what they want.
Right Chloe worked with the migos main producer for have mercy and London on the track did the song with Chris brown I think. Hell she got collabs with Chris brown and future. The label is giving her resources. Can’t force good music out the girl.
I'm going to her concert today and I have a feeling her live performances could make me love it even more. The album was ok but after I listened over and over again I started to like it more. I don't think the album is bad though.
its cuz she's letting her sex appeal be her brand, which if we're being honest , she doesnt have that much so it always looks like she's trying too hard, thankfully she can definitely shake back bc she does have the talent, take ariana grande for example, she debuted and wanted to be sexy and break away from her nickelodeon image, her music was good but majority of people didnt take her seriously until she found her lane and sound. Chloe has to go through the same thing, find her sound and lane, this cant be her sound bc w her and halle it was nothing like this stuff its too much of a contrast, and she's trying to go mainstream quickly rather than build her brand more thoughtfully. Is this what she wants the world to remember about her and her music? Take Coco Jones, she has talent, her foot is in many doors, and she is sexy but not in a way where she wants it to outshine her talent. She connects with her fans more too,
Doja was way less known than Chloe when she dropped hot pink with not even an inch of the promo In Pieces has gotten lol streets and say so took off eventually. Chloe’s best bet is to try an get a few of the songs from the album trending on TikTok. It can cost anywhere from 500k to 1M to push a record.
@@dnicole4236 she wasn't really unknown. She had the hit with Tyga and her singles made people talk about her and it took a while for say so and other of her songs to be recognized same can happen here
A cosign gets exposure, but consistency builds a fanbase. She's talented. She just has to keep putting the work in. No shortcuts. Beyonce cosign or not.
I definitely agree. I don't think it was the right time for Chloe to go solo. They did have a buzz but I also think that it's possible that Halles Little Mermaid offer probably came around that same time. But again like Dee said, had they released her music while she was popping that would've made a difference. But also her moving away from her core audience wasn't a good move. She could've brought some of that to this album and still did her thing. But she has time to grow from all of this.
The album flopping is really sad tho. I feel like while her team worked A LOT on the image and she managed to get in the news once in a while the music was kinda...alright and besides the people that knew her from the group. She didn't find her ninche.
Chloe forgot why we bought the music with her sister. It was different and edgy. Yes, she is influenced by Beyoncé AND THATS OK! But, we see through the BS. Ppl are tired of cookie cutter r&b. We know she’s capable of more, that’s why ppl are harder on her. It’s rare to have a girl singing, writing, and producing! The sky is the limit for this girl.
I think Chloe has no idea who she is creatively and I think she does what she think will work, I think having a sister that is taking the role of modesty, in Disney movies and a younger fan base,and Chloe getting back shots on swarm and being over sexualize over half of the time, blame the branding and marketing, idc how many interviews and build boards she had, the brand they are pushing for her will always over shadow her talent and be her down fall
it’s not that she didn’t pick the right singles, it’s the fact that none of the songs on that album were single worthy to begin with. it’s all generic cookie cutter pop-r&b noise. no substance nor soul was put into it. i love chloe, i really do, but blaming beyonce won’t change the fact that chloe’s music is NOT it 🙃
Beyonce is not to blame lol. Beyonce has a dedicated fanbase and years of experience in the entertainment industry, Chloe does not. If Beyonce' would've even mentioned Chloe's album then people would be saying Chloe's numbers/success is unorganic and Chloe shouldn't rely on Beyonce to be successful. Its a "try and try again" situation but she'll eventually catch up.
Halle is actually releasing her solo album after the little mermaid film comes out in May, in the months after and she's shared snippets of some of her songs
Honestly I think she just went solo too soon, She has the talent but Chloe x Halle needed to be bigger to give her a headstart. Sure the group had a good run during ungodly hour but a lot of people were just now getting introduced to them. The general audience needed to get more familiar with them before she went Solo. With Halle it’s a different case because she not only has a huge A list celebrity like Beyoncé on her team but she also has Disney backing her up. So her run is guaranteed to be more successful
THIS!! I said the same thing tbh she went solo way to soon right when Chloe x Halle were REALLY taking off (Ungodly hour) and people were still getting to know them fr.
The bigger problem is just that none of us care to listen because we don't know her. Her brand is very manufactured, I don't feel like I can relate to her or what she is putting out. Every artist has to have a rhyme and a reason for their records. For Beyonce it's always been a narrative of ambition and love for art, her brand angle is her artistic vision. Chloe needs to build a brand that we can relate to. People have to be able to connect the art to the artist.
Before she started rollin out the singles I was basically expecting a solo version of Ungodly Hour (I love that album so much). When it was clear that wasn’t the direction she was going I was disappointed.
Chloe isnt an industry plants. Industry plants are people who the industry brings to the forefront to go against another artist like J-Lo vs Mariah, Ice Spice vs Cardi. Industry plants blow up overnight and are normally untalented but somehow reach mass success.
@@jujubee6030 she’s not an industry plant but I think maybe they are saying she is getting a lot of opportunities for someone who ppl love to say they don’t care for.
Oh yes cuz we all know it's someone else's fault when something doesn't go your way or something gets ruined instead of actually taking responsibility but why not let's blame someone else
They are will still be releasing music as a duo in the future Right now, after In Pieces, the release order is (musically): The Little Mermaid and soundtrack Halle’s solo album Chloe x Halle’s 3rd album
Chloe needs to figure out her sound and do crazy promo, like Beyonce did when she first debuted solo, interviews all over the US and internationally. She should have performed at the Grammy, Country music awards, international award shows etc. Beyonce could have at least did a quick IG story, but these labels don't really invest in their artist like that. Chloe best hope now is to continue to get brand deals, movie roles that use her music. Figure what audience she wants and her sound.
THE FANS ARE ON DRUGS ITS EMBARRASSING. This is not Beyoncé’s problem. She gave her the platform the rest is up to Chloe. Is it Lil Wayne’s fault Tyga wasn’t as big as Drake? No. Next case..
Ima just say it, don't give a damn who likes it or not.....Beyonce ain't got nothing to do with that....The fact of the matter is nobody is trying to hear Chole without her sister. If Chole was focused more on her music more so than how thick she is gettin or her being "sexually free" then maybe she would be better off as a musician.
Since she did the collab songs it started to go little down 😢 but blaming others people for this is just dumb, have mercy, treat me and even surprise it was good
I do think releasing for the night at the time of her poll and without latto would have mad a difference. By the time it got released I think the interest for the song had gone and the feature did nothing!
Beyoncé has done that before for ChloeXHalle tho… she literally would make a post on her IG promoting their albums so idk why she ain’t do it for Chloe 🤔
I'm curious to know what a Halle album would sound like. Chloe music changed so much from what her and Halle music sounded like. Which got me thinking that maybe the music they made came more so from Halle than it did from Chloe.
I like Chloe, I loved treat me, but her new album was boring and monotonous to me. If the music isn't good, it's not good, period, and that's not beyonce's fault lol.
I Blama chola because when her sister went to Flim the little mermaid she just jump and went solo out of no where and I wish that she waited for her sister and i just hope Halle solo this year will be a hit her voice is too beautiful . Halle is going up her popularity is sky high and knows worldwide.
Actually the projection isn’t higher 😭 the 4-5k were only streaming sale predictions they never counted the pure sales into the 4-6k cause nobody knew how much she can sell
Personally, I think that Chloe made a mistake by going solo too fast.. She should have stayed in a duo with a little sister a bit longer.. It would have given her more time to grow artistically, as a woman & master her own craft. I mean they should have keep functionning as a duo the time of one or two more albums. Then go solo, knowing exactly what she wanted, with her own signature.
That ain’t Beyoncé fault lmaooo blame her for not getting the help she need she need some producers and stop writing it herself 😂 ain’t nun wrong wit some help
The issue with blaming Beyonce is the only thing she gave Chloe was freedom. This album honestly reminds me a lot of Solange 1st album good people worked on it but the direction of the album is so all over the place.with the way Renaissance tracks flow into each other its hard to believe Beyonce took any parts of lead on this.
All imma say is this… DON’T SLEEP ON CHLÖE! Dee I love your reaction tho ❤ Ungodly Hour was fire asf 💯 I want y’all haters to shut tf up and hear a piece of what Chlöe can bring. She is so immaculate with her vocal ability and Halle is releasing an album. Let these artists do what they do. At least they bringing originality in terms of what they have experienced. #TheKidsAreAlright
8:02 she release Surprise before For the Night. She released For The Night multiples weeks or months after Surprise bc Surprise flopped and her label didn't want her to drop For The Night
Nothing was going to help that album , because none of the songs were great . Chloë has millions of followers, preformed at multiple shows , had major promo and yes she abandoned her core audience . It’s her choice to make the music she wants , but people have the right not to buy her music . She should have never gone solo . Not every artist is good as a solo artist .
Here we go again. Congratulations Ms. Chloe Bailey on your album! it's FIRE!!!. Expressed on your own creative terms and in your own way Don't let those non-buying, hateful, easily social-media brain-washed, click baiting trolls box you in, acting like they work for the productions, publishing, marketing and PR companies. I know the root of this negativity. I am here for all of your self expressions and creativity - it's called art. Slay all day! Trolls (from that camp), get some love and joy in your lives.
Chloe is very lazy in promoting her work. For her latest movie she posted on Instagram days after her costars. So I’m sorry if someone is to blame is her. If she can’t do that she can leave her ig to her management.
People Just want to see Beyoncé Fall, that's all Everybody knows that for an album to be successful or interest people, You must have at least one hit Single, Something Chloé is Yet to achieve She changed her image in the process and started singing about nasty stuff, just because "Sex sells" Later on, the girl Can sing, but she's not really that RnB voice, or that Pop Voice, She's Lost in the middle of nothing How Can you blame for Beyoncé for That ?
Chloe seems like she’s still trying to figure out who she is, I know y’all say let her be herself she’s grown, but this image seems so forced and unnatural.
She had a few good songs on there especially the one with Chris brown which gave early 2000’s vibes. It was pretty good it’s just this era of ppl that listen to “music” isn’t the same
Parkwood made sure Chloe was on every major talk show, every radio show, tons of public appearances and performances! None of that will ever matter if the public dont like her personality!!! All Beyonce can do it make sure that we’re constantly seeing her but she cant make us like Chloe! Thats all Chloes responsibility
Chloe is signed to Beyoncé's label. The direction of the album and it's rollout could have been different if someone at the label had interfered or consulted differently.
Ok but heavy on that For the Night/Surprise poll shade, cause I remember everybody loved FTN immediately, then she said Beyonce wanted her to drop Surprise first (when Break My Soul was Abt to drop), AND she had to add that garbage feature to FTN, the rollout has been a complete mess & it's Parkwoods fault 100% fr cause the singles were poorly timed & wrong order
As manager I mean yeah. Fans need to buy more but it needs to be worth buying. How you gonna mentor someone but have nothing to do with their career. Better not as well be not damn mentor if you ain’t gonna help with stuff not only behind the scenes but marketing wise cool promo vids nothing. Why train somebody and not train them at the same damn time ??????
Ppl will find anyone to blame except their idol. Like is it so impossible that majority outside her fan base don’t likes her songs. I mean just a thought. 🤷🏽♀️
I think it’s all about promotion. I drive a lot so listen to the radio a lot and the “top” artist are being played on the radio several times an hour. Maybe that’s payola lol but I think she need to be pushed and paid to play more on the radio (at least in my area. Maybe she gets play elsewhere)
Blame the fans for not buying it it's really that simple
@@whywhowhatwhere excuses 😂. Y’all internet fans don’t support or buy artist music it’s that simple. Y’all only support on the internet. Y’all really need to hang that nobody buys albums anymore excuse because thats not true. Streaming counts too so it’s really no excuse to flop if anything it’s easier for the new artist.
@@whywhowhatwherepeople do buy albums it’s just that Chloe’s album is bad lol so people are not checking it out
@@whywhowhatwhere other artists can pull numbers so that ain’t an excuse
@@whywhowhatwhere the excuses. Melanie Martinez did 99k PURE sales and 160k altogether with streams. I’m not saying Chloe should have those numbers but her fans did not support like they screamed. They said she would outdo ungodly hour. In Pieces did 10k LESS than Ungodly Hour.
Swear people always tryna blame someone else when it's their fault, like YOU'RE the fan ☠️
Chloe’s fans are blaming Beyonce? Blame yourselves wtf 😂
Right like ain't yall the ones who are supposed to be streaming 😂😂
Chloe "fans" have been doing everything in their power to self-destruct that girl. Black youtubers making 1000 videos calling her flop everytime she breathes to ride ad revenue and priming people psychologically to hate chloe by repeating similar phrases over and over like forced sexuality until people are primed to respond with it even on her album where she is literally sitting down at a piano belting fully clothed, etc. Cancelling chloe for collabing with chris brown while not cancelling ANYONE else such as normani, h.e.r., etc (they criticized them but they were trying to like fully cancel chloe). She needs to crossover and make pop STAT and get away from these hating fans. She sounded good with the in pieces song.
No it’s not her fans saying that .. it’s people like you who been dragging her and belittling her is what caused this for her, and as for many of our black artist , y’all don’t support their music and it’s getting tiring .. y’all are always around to share y’all think pieces but y’all don’t support them,, whether it was good or not, we should’ve push her album to the top, we need to stop doing this to our black artist.. then when theses awards Shows comes along we get mad because they don’t win awards and this is the causes of that..
Y’all don’t buy music ..
take Taylor swift for example:
Her music ain’t all that, but the white community makes sure she gets her accolades, they ain’t running tot the internet giving their free opinion, they are out streaming … and then y’all complain when they win all these awards.. we need to stop being so dysfunctional with our black creators.
@@crispri3919 Oh yeah.. I been saying that.. She needs to get away from this negative black community and I say cuz it’s them - in the Shaderoom and these black bloggers, you right on that topic 💯.. she needs to pull a Nas, Lizzo, and Doja.. it’s the only she will succeed .. she needs to ditch them, then later you’ll hear “Oh she caters to white people”
Oh it’s cuz y’all don’t support her, ya hate her, for what reason? We don’t know 🤔 but they keep spewing hate about her.. she needs to ditch them…
@@JinxSAW all bc she Chung up her style like what? 💀
The problem is we have seen chloe do more creative things with her sister so this solo album is her stooping down to what mainstream artists do and we don’t want it from her.
@@txfxribut why are you comparing it to ungodly hour? Chloe and Halle are completely different then CHLOE as a solo artist. Y’a stay treating that girl like she’s 18. She’s a grown woman who wants to try different things creatively and she has the talent and the creativity to do that. Chloe and Halle are one unit and Chloe (the soloist) is a different thing.
@@torikpop822 lolll I fully recognize shes grown, And you’re not wrong about her being able to be creative and experimental with her work, but if she said it out of her own mouth that it took 3 different iterations for the album to finally be what it is now, and then only sell 10,000 copies(which I don’t think is representative of her talent at all, she deserves way more) it might be time to go back to the drawing board. There’s a general consensus that the album does not match her ever evolving capabilities, it is not a diss like how it sounds
Beyoncé is her mentor…”what does Beyoncé have to do with this” is a dumb question
Eggzacklee. I hate to compare but Coco Jones doesn’t make groundbreaking music yet her music is still A1 even though it’s familiar and nothing “new” tbh I can’t connect to Chloe at all as an artist anymore…. The kids are alright Chloe X Halle was my shiiih she should’ve rode with that and build her fan base on that! The whole indie/unique music her and Halle made. I was obsessed. They had their own lane. Then “Do IT” and ungodly hour came. Even better!!
@@Jess-ew3tm had she stuck with that her videos would still be getting 300 views per upload lol. Look at this album. How many views does that future song video have. Now look at the video with her fully clothed at piano sanging flat footed and compare how many views does that video have. It is like T-pain said. Everyone wants him to sing without autotune but people don't actually know what they want because his stuff blows up with autotune. She goes back to singing that stuff and everyone dissapears because people love to hate and it generates clicks. I think she needs to go even harder and cut out the ungodly hour fanbase because she will never be able to crossover and do pop or anything else until she gets rid of the cancerous fans who will hold her back, follow her name around and get digs and make 1000 videos everytime she even breathes let alone drop a song calling her a flop and expecting her to just recreate ungodly hour every time she makes a song. She can't grow past ungodly hour or the kids are alright if people don't let her stumble. Back in the day there wasn't as much internet and people just listened to what was given and liked or quietly disliked it. Now everybody is a wannabe journalist and make videos calling people flops and every commenter is a music critic, pr marketing firm, vocal coach, music theorist, even graphic designer down to people literally criticizing her album cover!!! Before she even dropped anything people were really going in about the album cover. I bet most of these people dont even rememebr the album cover from their favorite albums. At some point we need to acknowledge that there is some clear trickery going on to sway public opinion against chloe
Chloe just needs a few good writers to help her, a good producer, and to just be authentically her because the Summer Walker/Sza esque vibe just isn't for her. But I do hope to see her improve and succeed in the future.
Yea she's still finding herself, seems confused about which direction she wants to take her career.
Totally agree! The lyrics are a bit weak and the production on 70% of the album feels unfinished, rushed ands a bit predictable.
Chloe needs to partner with songwriter/producer to help her refine her sound and sharpen her pen. Chloe has found herself nor has she found what type of music she wants to make. And it is obvious to the audience.
People forget that Beyoncé is her own person and brand! She’s the head of the label, that doesn’t mean she personally had her hands in every single piece. It is a huge difference, just like how some of you work for a companies and have mishaps but it’s not the CEO’s fault lol.
If Tommy Motola is able to help Mariah Carey succeed, why couldn't Beyonce do the same for Chloe?
@@KingOfThePirates101but she literally did? Empressive literally talked about all the things parkwood did for Chloe
@@KingOfThePirates101 what? mariah carey and chloe bailey ain’t on the same level.
@@KingOfThePirates101 she did tho? Beyonce’s job (from Parkwood) is managing her, like she did, as Chloe was booked and busy from performances, interviews ecc.
@@KingOfThePirates101 but she did. Didn't you watch the video?
I just watched this video. Blaming Beyoncé is stupid. Beyoncé owns the label but Chloe has a pr machine behind her. She is getting a lot more help than most new artists. She’s just not connecting. People don’t like her for some reason.
Yet but u blame drake for this artists not doing good so
@@fabianwright3502 I have not mentioned Drake once, because I don’t even listen to his music but whatever
@@mielissa100ify yea if u say so
@@fabianwright3502 what does drake have to do with anything? 😭 last time i heard of him, he was trying to make ice spice his “girl”
@@fabianwright3502 Drake has artists? Oh I guess there’s OVO. I don’t know that I’ve heard any OVO artists.
"where is that being released? on Tubi?"
dee is too f*%king shady i'm done with her 😭✋🏽
Fr I fell tf off 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It’s her team. Not Beyoncé’s fault
It's not even the teams fault...this is solely on the consumers
If I was Chloe Bailey I’d work on just releasing small EPs or work on movie and/or tv show soundtracks like Beyoncé did for the lion king or her sister Hallie did for the little mermaid!!!!
Already done.
Singles Have Mercy, Treat Me, Surprise & For The Night
Movie --> Praise This
TV Show > Swarm
@@medylemaproductions she should probably stick to those cos she’s more successful in those projects compared to the album releases!!!!
It’s because of Beyoncé that Chloe *prematurely* booked the VMAs. Got Pepsi commercials. And received as much hype as she did. We all know she never would’ve got those opportunities so quickly without Beyoncé & Parkwood.
Beyoncé not even promoting her own album
Because she knows it was trash ..😂😂😂
@@zyajones9360it sold 331k first week debuted at number 1 and have over a billion streams
@@zyajones9360 pls be so fr. If that’s the case why is it breaking records???
@@zyajones9360 I’ve listened to Renaissance a good fiftyleven times now. It’s different
@@quayquaywalk5205 Right, ppl just be saying anything LFMAO
Listening to the radio and a DJ said Chloe album sales flopped due to her fans not buying. He's right, but when you have nearly six million followers on IG and others platforms, something is not adding up.
It's the FANS fault not Beyonce
People are always looking for someone else to blame
One thing I noticed is that people stay super envious of Beyonce. I'm shocked by all the women I've heard trashing her over the years. Yet I've seen Beyonce advocate for strong women and female empowerment plenty of times, even if not spoken, then in her music. And the crazy thing is it shows how messy women can be when I'm a guy and I haven't even listened to most of her songs and I realize all this yet a whole lot of women disrespect her.
Talk about it. They mad cause she stay unbothered. She drops her art and let it speak for itself. That lady has better shit to do then to try pleasing haters.
Because she evil and she’s get jealous of other women that’s literally better than her lol. Like Keri Hilson.
Understand that it's not just beyonce. The system want beyonce, riri, Taylor, nicki, and all the legends gone so that they can promote these mediocre 360 deal new artist. It's all bout making money and promoting mediocrity within the music industry. I'm so glad after all these years, to.still see all these women thriving in their careers and making their OWN decisions, something th3se new artist just can't do
@@torikpop822 Right and what’s with the “Beyoncé should have promoted her album” bull? Like what ever happened to making your way to the top? They just want her to get free handouts now. How is that gonna help her grow as an artist? 🤦🏽♀️
It’s always funny though when people have millions of followers and you still don’t pay enough attention to them to buy their albums.
People just say anything about Beyoncé because she doesn’t give anything for people to talk about . Miserable asf . And she’s one of our people . A black women . One of the most successful women ever to live , let’s start respecting our legends because the stuff y’all come up with the internet is sad . But if she were to ever die , she would all of a sudden be the best to ever walk earth
They talk about her because she's with jay z & they think she's in the illuminati
@@NorthPhilly-zr7xc they talk about her child , her body , her husband , everything they can dig at . Most of the things aren’t even believable
Bey is giving them freedom to make mistakes by there selves carryons there careers would be easy and pointless that’s why Chloe is able to release when ever she wants and any kind of music
Bottom line Chloe went solo TOO SOON.
Yeah should've take a year or 2 to experiment to find her own sound than worked on her music solo
No, she waited too long to drop the album. She should have dropped it right after Have Mercy had it’s viral moment. With Treat Me as the second single on release day.
@@NebularNoel Treat Me is such a good catchy and commercial song, it wasn’t even included in the album 😭😭
She went solo too soon. She does not know what type of music she wants to make, what type of audience she wants to have. Being older and a little more successful in her duo would have given her time to better develop a sound and style. releasing an album after Have Mercy when Treat Me didn't do that well would not have bode well at all for the album. Surprise did worst. For the Night did worst. She would have sold higher in the first week and then the album would have plummeted on Billboard.
@@NebularNoel Why not both?
I was waiting for you to see this, cause how Beyoncé get thrown in it, see how she gets thrown in it, she ain’t even do anything.
I wonder how the outcome would’ve change had she kept it as a pop album instead of redoing it to an r&b album especially when the album came out during spring break for a lot of people
It’s not Beyoncé’s job to promote her, it’s Columbia’s job. Beyonce hasn’t even promoted her own album and has a world tour in under a month🤣
It’s simple , the music isn’t good , her fans keep complaining about promo when Chloe has literally been everywhere since and before the album dropped , everyday there is a new interview dropping on top of performances , say it for what it is the music isn’t good and has no replay value !!!
Body Do definitely has potential to be a hit tbh. I think Chlöe did an amazing job in Swarm. I think you’d like it, Dee
Chloe is signed under Beyoncé and I’m pretty sure they offered her help with the best writers/producers. It might just be Chloe’s deliverance and her album was all over the place. Instead she needed to put Have Mercy, Treat Me, and Surprise on the album.
CxH are signed to Parkwood and Columbia Records. Columbia is in charge of the music side. Of course they get advice and mentorship from B on a music tip, BUT Parkwood is doing their job. The movies, brand deals, major tv shows, etc. is all Parkwood. Beyonce gave Chloe x Halle creative freedom to do what they want.
Right Chloe worked with the migos main producer for have mercy and London on the track did the song with Chris brown I think. Hell she got collabs with Chris brown and future. The label is giving her resources. Can’t force good music out the girl.
@@babygirl4949 Hitmaka did the song with Chris
have mercy is old
I'm going to her concert today and I have a feeling her live performances could make me love it even more. The album was ok but after I listened over and over again I started to like it more. I don't think the album is bad though.
its cuz she's letting her sex appeal be her brand, which if we're being honest , she doesnt have that much so it always looks like she's trying too hard, thankfully she can definitely shake back bc she does have the talent, take ariana grande for example, she debuted and wanted to be sexy and break away from her nickelodeon image, her music was good but majority of people didnt take her seriously until she found her lane and sound. Chloe has to go through the same thing, find her sound and lane, this cant be her sound bc w her and halle it was nothing like this stuff its too much of a contrast, and she's trying to go mainstream quickly rather than build her brand more thoughtfully. Is this what she wants the world to remember about her and her music? Take Coco Jones, she has talent, her foot is in many doors, and she is sexy but not in a way where she wants it to outshine her talent. She connects with her fans more too,
Exactly!!!!
Beyoncé is (hopefully) still working on those visuals, and she is only one person. How much did y’all expect her to do?
I mean you never know cause Doja's Hot Pink also debuted with 9k pure sales and people caught to it after a while
Chloe sold 10k copies…including pure ones
Doja was way less known than Chloe when she dropped hot pink with not even an inch of the promo In Pieces has gotten lol streets and say so took off eventually.
Chloe’s best bet is to try an get a few of the songs from the album trending on TikTok. It can cost anywhere from 500k to 1M to push a record.
@@dnicole4236 she wasn't really unknown. She had the hit with Tyga and her singles made people talk about her and it took a while for say so and other of her songs to be recognized same can happen here
I’m glad she’s being optimistic and not focusing on other people’s opinions
This video got recomended to me today on youtube. Thought to myself: Dee is going to react to this, I'll wait and get a 2 in 1. And here it is 😂
A cosign gets exposure, but consistency builds a fanbase. She's talented. She just has to keep putting the work in. No shortcuts. Beyonce cosign or not.
I’m sure the fans blaming Beyoncé are the fans who didn’t buy the album. I mean she can only hold her hand for so long.
Nobody is blaming Beyonce but anything to make things worse for that girl Chloe....
Yeah, she was wrong for making that video. She knew what she was doing, bringing a whole other fan based to hated on Chloe.
They are releasing a 3rd album Dee. After TLM comes out Halle will drop her solo album and then they will do their joint album!
I definitely agree. I don't think it was the right time for Chloe to go solo. They did have a buzz but I also think that it's possible that Halles Little Mermaid offer probably came around that same time.
But again like Dee said, had they released her music while she was popping that would've made a difference. But also her moving away from her core audience wasn't a good move.
She could've brought some of that to this album and still did her thing.
But she has time to grow from all of this.
DEE KNOW SHE WRONG FOR SAYING THAT MOVIE IS BEING RELEASED ON TUBI😂😂😂😂😂😂
SHADY DEE
Lol lol at Tubi, that's really where deh put certain movies now
The album flopping is really sad tho. I feel like while her team worked A LOT on the image and she managed to get in the news once in a while the music was kinda...alright and besides the people that knew her from the group. She didn't find her ninche.
Now y’all blaming Beyoncé again?! Just say y’all feel inferior to her that’s why y’all hating…..
GET INTO IT🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝🐝
Chloe forgot why we bought the music with her sister. It was different and edgy. Yes, she is influenced by Beyoncé AND THATS OK! But, we see through the BS. Ppl are tired of cookie cutter r&b. We know she’s capable of more, that’s why ppl are harder on her. It’s rare to have a girl singing, writing, and producing! The sky is the limit for this girl.
I think Chloe has no idea who she is creatively and I think she does what she think will work, I think having a sister that is taking the role of modesty, in Disney movies and a younger fan base,and Chloe getting back shots on swarm and being over sexualize over half of the time, blame the branding and marketing, idc how many interviews and build boards she had, the brand they are pushing for her will always over shadow her talent and be her down fall
I agree with you totally. There is a disconnect with her image and branding.
it’s not that she didn’t pick the right singles, it’s the fact that none of the songs on that album were single worthy to begin with. it’s all generic cookie cutter pop-r&b noise. no substance nor soul was put into it. i love chloe, i really do, but blaming beyonce won’t change the fact that chloe’s music is NOT it 🙃
Beyonce is not to blame lol. Beyonce has a dedicated fanbase and years of experience in the entertainment industry, Chloe does not. If Beyonce' would've even mentioned Chloe's album then people would be saying Chloe's numbers/success is unorganic and Chloe shouldn't rely on Beyonce to be successful. Its a "try and try again" situation but she'll eventually catch up.
Halle is actually releasing her solo album after the little mermaid film comes out in May, in the months after and she's shared snippets of some of her songs
Honestly I think she just went solo too soon, She has the talent but Chloe x Halle needed to be bigger to give her a headstart. Sure the group had a good run during ungodly hour but a lot of people were just now getting introduced to them. The general audience needed to get more familiar with them before she went Solo. With Halle it’s a different case because she not only has a huge A list celebrity like Beyoncé on her team but she also has Disney backing her up. So her run is guaranteed to be more successful
THIS!! I said the same thing tbh she went solo way to soon right when Chloe x Halle were REALLY taking off (Ungodly hour) and people were still getting to know them fr.
LMFAOOOO not major Thats Ti’s Son Heiress is the daughter 💀💀💀
The bigger problem is just that none of us care to listen because we don't know her. Her brand is very manufactured, I don't feel like I can relate to her or what she is putting out. Every artist has to have a rhyme and a reason for their records. For Beyonce it's always been a narrative of ambition and love for art, her brand angle is her artistic vision. Chloe needs to build a brand that we can relate to. People have to be able to connect the art to the artist.
“Their image was very polished and sophisticated” *insert your MMHMMMM here* 😹😹😹 we said that at the same time ahaha
Before she started rollin out the singles I was basically expecting a solo version of Ungodly Hour (I love that album so much). When it was clear that wasn’t the direction she was going I was disappointed.
The industry needs to realise that we the people are tired of these fake celebrities and industry plants they keep forcing on us.
Chloe isnt an industry plants. Industry plants are people who the industry brings to the forefront to go against another artist like J-Lo vs Mariah, Ice Spice vs Cardi. Industry plants blow up overnight and are normally untalented but somehow reach mass success.
@@jujubee6030 Ice spice vs Cardi is crazy lmao
@@sllkp5747 LFMAO but Cardi was def an industry plant used by Atlantic to take down Nicki Minaj tho
@@jujubee6030 when did Ice Spice vs Cardi become a thing?💀
@@jujubee6030 she’s not an industry plant but I think maybe they are saying she is getting a lot of opportunities for someone who ppl love to say they don’t care for.
Oh yes cuz we all know it's someone else's fault when something doesn't go your way or something gets ruined instead of actually taking responsibility but why not let's blame someone else
*I've had Body Do and In Pieces on repeat* 🙌🏼
They are will still be releasing music as a duo in the future
Right now, after In Pieces, the release order is (musically):
The Little Mermaid and soundtrack
Halle’s solo album
Chloe x Halle’s 3rd album
Beyoncé can only do so much. She can't hold Chloe's hand forever, Beyoncé did not stop people from supporting the album, so how is she to blame??
Chloe needs to figure out her sound and do crazy promo, like Beyonce did when she first debuted solo, interviews all over the US and internationally. She should have performed at the Grammy, Country music awards, international award shows etc. Beyonce could have at least did a quick IG story, but these labels don't really invest in their artist like that. Chloe best hope now is to continue to get brand deals, movie roles that use her music. Figure what audience she wants and her sound.
Fans can come up with any excuse for why their faves are flopping, but can't use that same energy to stream their faves' music. Make it make sense.
THE FANS ARE ON DRUGS ITS EMBARRASSING. This is not Beyoncé’s problem. She gave her the platform the rest is up to Chloe. Is it Lil Wayne’s fault Tyga wasn’t as big as Drake? No. Next case..
Omg REAL Chloe fans aren’t blaming anyone 😭💀like who’s making us look bad?!🙄
And nobody is trying to hear her "My man cheated on me so I fucked his best friend" music neither...
Ima just say it, don't give a damn who likes it or not.....Beyonce ain't got nothing to do with that....The fact of the matter is nobody is trying to hear Chole without her sister. If Chole was focused more on her music more so than how thick she is gettin or her being "sexually free" then maybe she would be better off as a musician.
Since she did the collab songs it started to go little down 😢 but blaming others people for this is just dumb, have mercy, treat me and even surprise it was good
I do think releasing for the night at the time of her poll and without latto would have mad a difference. By the time it got released I think the interest for the song had gone and the feature did nothing!
The internet is sooo unserious😂😂😂 like y’all need HELPPP
Beyoncé has done that before for ChloeXHalle tho… she literally would make a post on her IG promoting their albums so idk why she ain’t do it for Chloe 🤔
I'm curious to know what a Halle album would sound like. Chloe music changed so much from what her and Halle music sounded like. Which got me thinking that maybe the music they made came more so from Halle than it did from Chloe.
To ME…. her music and her voice hits for me!!! Like this girl will be here in 30 years so I’m kinda just looking at people like…..📲 😊
I like Chloe, I loved treat me, but her new album was boring and monotonous to me. If the music isn't good, it's not good, period, and that's not beyonce's fault lol.
I Blama chola because when her sister went to Flim the little mermaid she just jump and went solo out of no where and I wish that she waited for her sister and i just hope Halle solo this year will be a hit her voice is too beautiful . Halle is going up her popularity is sky high and knows worldwide.
Difference is Beyoncé at her age actually put ART out, and was singing with Luther vandross on her debut album…. Bye
Actually the projection isn’t higher 😭 the 4-5k were only streaming sale predictions they never counted the pure sales into the 4-6k cause nobody knew how much she can sell
Personally, I think that Chloe made a mistake by going solo too fast.. She should have stayed in a duo with a little sister a bit longer.. It would have given her more time to grow artistically, as a woman & master her own craft. I mean they should have keep functionning as a duo the time of one or two more albums. Then go solo, knowing exactly what she wanted, with her own signature.
I said that this album came out to late she should’ve released it last year and really left her core audience behind
That ain’t Beyoncé fault lmaooo blame her for not getting the help she need she need some producers and stop writing it herself 😂 ain’t nun wrong wit some help
The issue with blaming Beyonce is the only thing she gave Chloe was freedom. This album honestly reminds me a lot of Solange 1st album good people worked on it but the direction of the album is so all over the place.with the way Renaissance tracks flow into each other its hard to believe Beyonce took any parts of lead on this.
All imma say is this… DON’T SLEEP ON CHLÖE! Dee I love your reaction tho ❤ Ungodly Hour was fire asf 💯 I want y’all haters to shut tf up and hear a piece of what Chlöe can bring. She is so immaculate with her vocal ability and Halle is releasing an album. Let these artists do what they do. At least they bringing originality in terms of what they have experienced. #TheKidsAreAlright
8:02 she release Surprise before For the Night. She released For The Night multiples weeks or months after Surprise bc Surprise flopped and her label didn't want her to drop For The Night
It was the ‘Tubi’ comment for me because we know how most of the movies on Tubi are😂😂😂 9:30
praise this is a rlly good movie imo
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I personally think she chose great singles. Cheatback and how it feels been on repeat since they were released!!
Nothing was going to help that album , because none of the songs were great . Chloë has millions of followers, preformed at multiple shows , had major promo and yes she abandoned her core audience . It’s her choice to make the music she wants , but people have the right not to buy her music . She should have never gone solo . Not every artist is good as a solo artist .
beyoncé don’t even promote her own damn music soooo what are other people mad for?
5:31 HEAVY ON THAT😂😂😂
Here we go again. Congratulations Ms. Chloe Bailey on your album! it's FIRE!!!. Expressed on your own creative terms and in your own way Don't let those non-buying, hateful, easily social-media brain-washed, click baiting trolls box you in, acting like they work for the productions, publishing, marketing and PR companies. I know the root of this negativity. I am here for all of your self expressions and creativity - it's called art. Slay all day! Trolls (from that camp), get some love and joy in your lives.
Chloe is very lazy in promoting her work. For her latest movie she posted on Instagram days after her costars. So I’m sorry if someone is to blame is her. If she can’t do that she can leave her ig to her management.
Lol it’s the facial expressions for me 😂
People Just want to see Beyoncé Fall, that's all
Everybody knows that for an album to be successful or interest people, You must have at least one hit Single, Something Chloé is Yet to achieve
She changed her image in the process and started singing about nasty stuff, just because "Sex sells"
Later on, the girl Can sing, but she's not really that RnB voice, or that Pop Voice, She's Lost in the middle of nothing
How Can you blame for Beyoncé for That ?
Chloe seems like she’s still trying to figure out who she is, I know y’all say let her be herself she’s grown, but this image seems so forced and unnatural.
She had a few good songs on there especially the one with Chris brown which gave early 2000’s vibes. It was pretty good it’s just this era of ppl that listen to “music” isn’t the same
It’s probably because she changed the album 3 times
Parkwood made sure Chloe was on every major talk show, every radio show, tons of public appearances and performances! None of that will ever matter if the public dont like her personality!!! All Beyonce can do it make sure that we’re constantly seeing her but she cant make us like Chloe! Thats all Chloes responsibility
Chloe is signed to Beyoncé's label. The direction of the album and it's rollout could have been different if someone at the label had interfered or consulted differently.
Ummmmmm we are stilling waiting on visuals from Beyoncé 😂 hardly doubt she got time to promote Chloe
Ok but heavy on that For the Night/Surprise poll shade, cause I remember everybody loved FTN immediately, then she said Beyonce wanted her to drop Surprise first (when Break My Soul was Abt to drop), AND she had to add that garbage feature to FTN, the rollout has been a complete mess & it's Parkwoods fault 100% fr cause the singles were poorly timed & wrong order
How do these fans know that Beyonce didn't try and Chloe told her don't interfere?
As manager I mean yeah. Fans need to buy more but it needs to be worth buying. How you gonna mentor someone but have nothing to do with their career. Better not as well be not damn mentor if you ain’t gonna help with stuff not only behind the scenes but marketing wise cool promo vids nothing. Why train somebody and not train them at the same damn time ??????
I agree with Dee. They waited too long to release this album. Should have released it a long time ago. Either way, I like some songs!
Chloe is not as talented or as famous as people think she is. She sounds like another R&B girl. It didn't sell because the music is bad/bland.
She’s beyond talented tbh
Ppl will find anyone to blame except their idol. Like is it so impossible that majority outside her fan base don’t likes her songs. I mean just a thought. 🤷🏽♀️
I think it’s all about promotion. I drive a lot so listen to the radio a lot and the “top” artist are being played on the radio several times an hour. Maybe that’s payola lol but I think she need to be pushed and paid to play more on the radio (at least in my area. Maybe she gets play elsewhere)