777-8 Rival - Airbus Improves A350F
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- To better compete with the upcoming Boeing 777-8 Freighter, Airbus has increased the payload of its own A350F set to launch in 2026. This is the companies first entry into the next generation of freighters and their own attempts at cancelling out Boeing's firm grip on the freight market they've had for a considerable period.
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this will enter service and we will still be waiting for the 777x. 🤣Boeing, get ahead of your game!
777F’s are still being produced and will continue to be made, likely through 2027. Boeing just needs the 777-8F capable of delivery beginning in 2028.
I've had this weird feeling that Boeing either will never deliver the 777X or that it will do so even later than is currently projected by 1-3 years. I hope I'm wrong.
The standard and now the new -300ERF are on the table and ready for delivery, they will just continue to bridge the gap until the -8F is ready to take off.
@@redbaronahpofc they are still getting produced but there will be 4-5 years where the A350F will ve the best available option
The only real advantage of A350F is lighter 'operating empty' weight than competition. We'll see lots of old 777s & A330s converted to freighter form in years to come, so don't see a huge market for brand new freighters.
Payload doesn’t mean that much when the cross section is smaller than the MD-11F…
"smaller" Where do you get that from?
@@evaluateanalysis7974Look at the data. It’s not rocket science
@@evaluateanalysis7974 The cabin width of the A350 is smaller than an MD-11. 222 vs 225 inches. Not only that but the floor level of the A350 is higher up in the fuselage than the MD-11. There is no way the A350 has a larger cargo envelope than an MD-11 nor a 777. This is probably the reason why Airbus has not yet publicly released the cross section details of the A350F.
Well it’s wide enough to fit all standard pallets and containers, so payload does mean something
@@djonymorais No, it’s not. It can not load two AMJ or Q5 contour containers side by side like a 777F can. Q5 is now the standard since the advent of the 777F. And there is no way it can carry two Q7 contour containers side by side. Only the 747 can do that. So no the A350 can not fit ALL standard pallets and containers. The only aircraft that can do that is a 747F
The A350 is such a beautiful and an amazing aircraft. I'm sure the freighter version will sell well.
This is good progress. I hope it'll succeed and gain market share. 777F operators will need a lot of convincing to avoid an upgrade to the 777-8F but may as well get the a350F as we are uncertain when the former will take off for the first time
777-8F most likely will beat 350F to market in real life
@@stevesmoneypit6137 Correct. Seeing as Boeing has decided to launch the freighter now before the passenger version, I could see that being possible. However the -8F is expected to enter into service in 2027.
@@dmcr9525 Which gives the a350f a little time to prove itself
@@Tpr_1808 I agree, but only if its launch is on time. If not they may enter service around the same time since the 777x seems to be back on track.
Its too expensive for a freighter
The 777-300ERF and 777-8F are both more expensive.
Very cyclical market....
Both offerings will have to compete with the flood of conversions on the market..
Fed Ex already starting to feel the downturn in demand , phasing out older models quicker than expected.
An advantage of lighter OEW
no big deal. Normal adjustment during the development process. You're likely to see the same on the 777-8F.
350F just going to be like the 330F and 300F tht barely ppl bought so
I'm pretty sure alot of airlines ordered the a300F
@@SouthJerseyTransitFanThey weren't talking about the A300
Generally speaking freight operators seem to largely prefer the 777X. Maybe unlike in the passenger market, they really want the biggest plane that can carry as much cargo as possible in one flight - the hub and spoke model is very much how they work.
777X?
@@ahmedayaat2727 He ment thr 777-8F
A50F n B777XF
Airbus and it’s fans are always jealous of Boeing 😂
Boeing has nothing for Airbus fans to be jealous about, Boeing will not be around for much longer.
@@chrissmith2114 not true
That thing cant even compete with the 777X watch it be a faulire like the A330F
There’s going to be an A330neoF. Boeing will have to stop making the 767F soon so they’re poised to be a replacement
@@harstofthe 767F might be replaced by the 787-8/9F if they don't get an exemption to continue production
@@mmm0404Boeing has huge problems by fitting a large cargo for on the 787 due to the the fuselage is produced in an Autoclave. On an 777x/A350 you can just cut a large hole in the fuselage and put in a cargo door, this is not possible on the 787
@@12345anton6789I think what Boeing should do for their smaller freighter is to make a 767XF, with the same wings from the 767-400ER and same GENX-2B engines from the 747-8
@@12345anton6789 Sorry but your quite out of date. While the A350 was initially designed using a normal frame they changed that later in the design phase. Both A350 and 787 use the same style composite materials for the frame itself with metal strips. That's how they both can achieve higher cabin pressure and was the crux of the paint problem along the structure. It was done way back in 2007.
What Airbus has done with narrowbody aircraft, Boeing has been doing in the freighter sector for decades, which is offering a diverse fleet to meet almost every need from small, midsize to large. Airbus will never catch Boeing here, especially since there are now talks about a P2F conversion for the 787. Once that goes into market, it will definitely outperform the A350F
It's a matter of time and what airbus may try to do to control the damage
Shall we talk about what Airbus did the last around 50 years? Remember Boeing where the dominant factor in the narrowbody market too untill Airbus came with the A320
@@ViktorFromDK You're basically repeating what I said. Airbus has dominated the narrowbody sector, and Boeing has dominated the widebody and cargo sectors.
The formulas that Airbus is winning with in the narrowbody sector are Boeing and McDonnell Douglas designs. Boeing had the 707, 727 and 737 with the 3-3 configuration, and The Mad Dogs were 2-3 configurations. Airbus started with a widebody, and the success of the 737 and 757 led to the A320 series. Bombardier saw how successful the Mad Dogs were when they designed the C Series, especially since Boeing decided not to build a replacement for the 717.
These planemakers improved on designs and formulas that already existed. Airbus fans can scream about fly-by-wire, and that's fair, but Airbus has been cashing in on other people's ideas for a long time.
@@sainnt Well it is known that they didn't invent it but just did it better
@@sainnt Well it is known that they didn't invent it but just did it better