I went in the pipe the first time. It was the obvious way to get in stealthily after looking around the perimeter. Afterwards I went back and killed everyone.
You look around the perimeter? Nah, unless the fixer asks it, I'm going in normally or try go stealthy from the main entrance (actually did it in this mission, kinda)
@@cunctator7622 even when the fixer doesn't ask, there can be different outcomes though usually it's just a dialogue change. If they put it as an optional objective for the gig then it's just an extra reward you go pick up at a dropbox. They'll also comment if you don't lethally neutralize your target for assassination missions sometimes.
There's a few neat little paths in this mission. If you kill all the Wraiths without raising the alarm, when Saul asks for a sidearm V will tell him that everyone's already dead which Panam will confirm. If you do raise the alarm, you'll be chased down by Wraiths when you leave. A lot of the game's missions are set up like this. There's almost always a shortcut that you'll see the first time through and can use on another playthrough.
I ALWAYS leave without being chased off. Either because I've "unalived" them all without raising an alarm, or they just never noticed me. Always took the time to hide the few bodies I'd have lol
@@Saarebas_ interestingly, discovered bodies don't raise an alarm. The enemies will go into search mode and you might get a netrunner try to trace you but as long you don't get seen you don't raise an alarm. Since I found that out I don't bother to hide bodies. Luring enemies using a body as bait is pretty useful.
I alredy knew about this too, but I always kill every single one of them in every playthrough for the loot, and the fun. Never really did anything on the hush, unless the fixer asked me to, which is boring and stressful.
Fun thing about most stealth missions - complete it silently, then just go back in and kill everyone after mission complete. Win-win! Works for almost all the stealth missions/fixer jobs
One time I thought: IF every enemy is dead and killed without raising the alarm, so still count as doing the mission quietly. I was surprised that I was right
I actually went through the long way without touching a soul and also crawling over every inch of the building and looting everything that i could get my hands on. It is possible, but it is difficult.
I went straight to the grid on my first playthrough. When I got out and approached the car, I realized how ridiculously fast this was and that I missing out a lot of things. So I loaded and strangled everyone on the territory (This was not easy without high-level abilities) This was truly “without a single shot” and 0 killed.
Knocking everyone out silently isn’t stealth? You achieved your objective, alarms didn’t go off, didn’t get hurt, didn’t waste ammo/resources, put the fear of God in them once they realize what happened to them. Sounds like stealth to me.
He also has dialogue if you ghosted every wraith in the camp without alerting them or being seen, as does V. Just come back quick after the storm to take them out I think if you snuck in then out, unless you are doing a pacifist run. First playthru....*guns blazing* Second... *sneak and quickhack murder fest, double tap each head* Third.. *nomad with a shotgun, face full of buckshot* Fourth... *Batsh*t crazy Corpo in a cobled together superhero costume goes cyberpsycho on wraith camp with a thermal katana* Fifth... *Grenades.....and the detonate grenades quickhack* Sixth... *Roleplaying a Mox V...pink baseball bat + cocktail stick...running into wraith and shoulder surfing em* Seventh... *Vinnie.... gorilla arms punch fest...lots of wraith heads go flying* I got 9 different V's and each has a different playstyle lol. But having fun with these gonks....never get old XD
didnt even see the pipe the first time around, but yeah 2nd time that was right the way i took * ^^ * didnt fail to alarm and eradicate the whole base on 3rd time tho, just for shits and giggles XD
In my game the door to enter the pipe way (after getting Saul), would not open for me, I had to take him another way to get out!!! That was just my experience..
So if I remember this right devs didnt knew that anyone would be doing this. I know coz at launch I did this on first try and it was stuck on waypoint that is on the underground hangar entrance. They fixed that in first big patch.
well they have to learn not to fuck with the Alvocados. Only rescuing Saul feels like half a job for me. The Raffen coming in the next day need to find the place completely deserted.
Shame about this game i bought it hoping to get the dlc, but they pulled a "Destiny" and didn't release the dlc for ps4. My fault really, should've known better than to trust any game company these days without extensive research into any game im interested in.
It never did, technically. But being that there were different life paths as well as dialogue bits, and many other things, it lends itself to reason that CDPR hoped gamers would play through the game more than once. And besides that, there is now for pc a near-native NG+ mod on Nexus, updated for 2.13 as of the past few weeks or so
I went in the pipe the first time. It was the obvious way to get in stealthily after looking around the perimeter. Afterwards I went back and killed everyone.
I tried my first playthrough but I had either low technical or low body so I couldn't open one of the doors :(.
The right way to play lol 😂
You look around the perimeter? Nah, unless the fixer asks it, I'm going in normally or try go stealthy from the main entrance (actually did it in this mission, kinda)
@@cunctator7622 even when the fixer doesn't ask, there can be different outcomes though usually it's just a dialogue change. If they put it as an optional objective for the gig then it's just an extra reward you go pick up at a dropbox. They'll also comment if you don't lethally neutralize your target for assassination missions sometimes.
Ah, so no one else just rammed through the front door guns blazing lmao
The Danny DeVito method? Every time.
I did 😂😂
Every time, Sovereign in hand
I tried stealth, got spotted, went "fuck it" and, well, anyway, I started blastin'.
I had to wipe them out with my satara in my first playthrough...
There's a few neat little paths in this mission. If you kill all the Wraiths without raising the alarm, when Saul asks for a sidearm V will tell him that everyone's already dead which Panam will confirm. If you do raise the alarm, you'll be chased down by Wraiths when you leave.
A lot of the game's missions are set up like this. There's almost always a shortcut that you'll see the first time through and can use on another playthrough.
Cool dev huh this game is rlly something
I ALWAYS leave without being chased off. Either because I've "unalived" them all without raising an alarm, or they just never noticed me. Always took the time to hide the few bodies I'd have lol
@@Saarebas_ interestingly, discovered bodies don't raise an alarm. The enemies will go into search mode and you might get a netrunner try to trace you but as long you don't get seen you don't raise an alarm. Since I found that out I don't bother to hide bodies. Luring enemies using a body as bait is pretty useful.
always just stealthed everybody and walked back out the front door. you miss to many iconic weapons if you let people live
I don't recall Iconics in this mission. Do you mean legendary gear?
@@sergeantsapient guy at the front gate drops the problem solver
You can always go back after the mission and get them...
Never thought bout this, feeling so dumb rn
Same...
Yyyyyep...😑
I was today years old when i learned there's a pipe there
you're not alone choom
I still love going and out of the front entrance... that's what he said
no stealth all swords front door like im the boss of the place.
2:20 those sound effects make it sound like V is a little cat running a pipe
I alredy knew about this too, but I always kill every single one of them in every playthrough for the loot, and the fun. Never really did anything on the hush, unless the fixer asked me to, which is boring and stressful.
I personally find stealth in this game fun, if your character is specced for it. If you're not specced for it, it definitely is stressful.
Fun thing about most stealth missions - complete it silently, then just go back in and kill everyone after mission complete. Win-win! Works for almost all the stealth missions/fixer jobs
One time I thought: IF every enemy is dead and killed without raising the alarm, so still count as doing the mission quietly. I was surprised that I was right
@@ukaszonski5163 "it counts as stealth if there's no witnesses"
100% this. Cyberpunk isn't necessarily a stealth game at its center, so being stealthy was only an option when it was necessary
I actually went through the long way without touching a soul and also crawling over every inch of the building and looting everything that i could get my hands on. It is possible, but it is difficult.
the killing animations alone makes me go guns blazing everytime instead of stealth
I found the exit on accident my first play through and went in that way every time lol
Same. Stealth games have made me extra nosy trying to find alternate paths that avoid combat.
The amount of playthroughs I’ve done and never thought about going to that pipe 😂😂
Wow -- totally did not realize you could sneak *in* that way. I thought that tunnel was only accessible on the way out. LOL!
12th playthrough is stealthily quickhacking all of the wraiths because it's funnier that way.
I went straight to the grid on my first playthrough. When I got out and approached the car, I realized how ridiculously fast this was and that I missing out a lot of things. So I loaded and strangled everyone on the territory (This was not easy without high-level abilities) This was truly “without a single shot” and 0 killed.
I skip killing everyone so that I can stay underleveled for the hidden quest for scorpions funeral.
Knocking everyone out silently isn’t stealth? You achieved your objective, alarms didn’t go off, didn’t get hurt, didn’t waste ammo/resources, put the fear of God in them once they realize what happened to them. Sounds like stealth to me.
@@MUMUMUMUist HA!
Yeah, my V was too weak to break that fence, so we went out the same way V went in. By that time there was nobody standing to notice us, anyway.
And that is why you scout and plan, people. xD
Second option was my first.
My dumb ahh who went through the front door and left the same way 🤣
I did it on my first playthrough by accident looking for alternate entrances.
never knew exaclty where that exit was so never tried goin IN that way NICE
Dude that was 1st playthrough, second one I just walked in through the sewer grate.
Never new that sewer tunnel existed.
Even with a stealth build on stealth missions, I always kill/incapacitate everyone.
He also has dialogue if you ghosted every wraith in the camp without alerting them or being seen, as does V.
Just come back quick after the storm to take them out I think if you snuck in then out, unless you are doing a pacifist run.
First playthru....*guns blazing*
Second... *sneak and quickhack murder fest, double tap each head*
Third.. *nomad with a shotgun, face full of buckshot*
Fourth... *Batsh*t crazy Corpo in a cobled together superhero costume goes cyberpsycho on wraith camp with a thermal katana*
Fifth... *Grenades.....and the detonate grenades quickhack*
Sixth... *Roleplaying a Mox V...pink baseball bat + cocktail stick...running into wraith and shoulder surfing em*
Seventh... *Vinnie.... gorilla arms punch fest...lots of wraith heads go flying*
I got 9 different V's and each has a different playstyle lol.
But having fun with these gonks....never get old XD
so wait Panam has the dialogue "there should be a quick exit out the cellar" meaning she knows about it. but doesn't direct you in that way?
I did just that in my 2nd playthrough. But decided to start shooting anyway, cant miss that Problem Solver SMG
didnt even see the pipe the first time around, but yeah 2nd time that was right the way i took * ^^ * didnt fail to alarm and eradicate the whole base on 3rd time tho, just for shits and giggles XD
I feel like that just bleeds all the fun out of it lol
In my game the door to enter the pipe way (after getting Saul), would not open for me, I had to take him another way to get out!!! That was just my experience..
You need 15 body to open it.
i did the first playthrough but went outside the accidentally went through the sewer and saved the guy
So if I remember this right devs didnt knew that anyone would be doing this.
I know coz at launch I did this on first try and it was stuck on waypoint that is on the underground hangar entrance.
They fixed that in first big patch.
I already knew that before you did
I think this was intended for 1st time play, too.
Where is the part that developers tell you "Nice try but do it normal?"
Mmm, I just knocked out everyone and looted everything
pretty sure you couldn't have accese at launch, this was added at certain Pacht right?
Always been in the game since day 1 they just changed the attributes to access it
I did it after completing the main story so I was unable to go through this pipe😂
well they have to learn not to fuck with the Alvocados. Only rescuing Saul feels like half a job for me. The Raffen coming in the next day need to find the place completely deserted.
Alvocados 😭 not trying to be mean but thats just so funny 😭😭
@@adammonsterzero Avocados 🤣
wtf i wish its gonna be my third
Lol i did use the sewer on my 56th gameplay 😭
I new this the first week the game came out😂
I went down the pipe my first time lol
Lynx Paws?
Shame about this game i bought it hoping to get the dlc, but they pulled a "Destiny" and didn't release the dlc for ps4. My fault really, should've known better than to trust any game company these days without extensive research into any game im interested in.
It's weird that in your "first" playthrough,you knew where the enemies were with out any recon
2nd playthrough? Didnt know this game finally got NG+.
It never did, technically. But being that there were different life paths as well as dialogue bits, and many other things, it lends itself to reason that CDPR hoped gamers would play through the game more than once. And besides that, there is now for pc a near-native NG+ mod on Nexus, updated for 2.13 as of the past few weeks or so