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My favorite complaint from friends that give me sh*t about still collecting CDs is their whining when their better sounding, warmer, analog pure LPs don’t include a DIGITAL download code. Looking forward to pushing my 9,000 CD count upward in 2023! Thanks for setting the record, I mean CD, straight Phil.
Thank you 🙏 I will be joining you! Phil :)
I got nearly 6,000 CDs, so you winning me but it’s ok 😂
Very well said, Phil. I LOVE the CD box sets I have, and even if I collected vinyl, I would prefer them on CD anyway. I think both formats will always be around, who cares if one is outselling the other? It's all media bull crap.
Hi Larry, thank you for your support, I hope you find a ELO Box Set ! Phil :)
One reason I prefer CDs is that some albums can't be accessed on streaming services. Also, some albums might have bonus tracks on the CD, that aren't on the streaming versions
Hi Phil.
Happy New Year to you.
I saw these reports and I couldn't work out why the journalists (and I use this description lightly) seemed to be happy that CD seemed to be in decline.
It's bizarre that they would celebrate this and I was at a loss as to what they actually personally gained from it.
Do they stay awake at night frightened to death that CD will continue to be available.
Very sad people and I can only guess that it was a very slow news day.
Long live the CD!
Hi Rob, thank you for watching. I totally agree. The number of people watching this would suggest a lot of others like the CD! Phil :)
CDs had became the best value format for both high quality and media preservation all together.
I love vinyl, but yes indeed had become into a "overpriced for snobs" format, and the format itself demands expensive gear just for being playable, even more so for ideal quality, and the handling and care that the discs and sleeves demand is a whole other branch on it's own.
In my case if I want a band box set I buy CD, and also if an album on vinyl is insanely over priced due to it's rarity or had becoming a collector's item.
The Tribute live album to Randy Rhoads by Ozzy Osbourne is a perfect example, speaking on a Black Sabbath related note.
On vinyl if you didn't get it back in 1987 when it came out is now unaffordable, and hasn't been reissued yet on vinyl, not even for an anniversary or expanded edition box set while on CD on the other hand is dirt cheap.
Vinyl is more of a hipster thing at the moment , CDs will prevail in the long run !
Thank you for watching - Phil
Agree.
I'm sure these stories are written by people who stopped buying physical music ages ago. It's not really "news" as such and certainly doesn't tell the whole story. Which is where you come in, Phil. The stats are always interesting to hear and you have a real talent for putting everything into perspective.
Hi Clive, good point I feel the same the writers have no connection to the subject. It is just click bait. Phil
When they say that vinyl outsells CDs they're probably talking about in store sales. They're not talking about on line sales. Very few cassettes are sold in stores. They're almost always sold on line, and the same could probably be said about CDs. They're cheeper, especially when it comes to used CDs. When cassettes are added to CDs you may be surprised to find that CDs actually outsell vinyl, especially when you consider that vinyl can cost as much as 5 times what the same CD costs. Could be that another myth is busted.
Plus the fact that CD’s sound much better than other formats.
Hi Phil, great video again! I really appreciate the stats you shared. Long live the CD!
Hi Brian, thank you for watching - long live the CD indeed! Phil :)
I like CDs more and want them to continue being on the market. Vinyl records get scratched and dirty too easily. The more i clean them, the more the quality degrades
the last vinyl I bought was in the 80's and its been nothing but cd's for me ever since; I've only increased the rate at which I have bought cd's in recent years
I was looking at some comments, and I noticed that someone said that vinyl is not overpriced. When a new CD can cost in the neborhood of $15.00 and the same vinyl costs $37.00, that's more than the cost of inflation. Some more, some less, but I think you get the idea.
I am pleased physical sales of CDs and vinyl are generally increasing. Love to see young people liking the artwork on vinyl albums, and appreciating great artists of the past!
Hi David, thank you for watching. I agree it is a wonderful thing to see. Phil :)
Just looked at another press article in the Guardian - The post has 500 comments nearly all from people who love CDs. I guess that is the point. If people really had switched off from the CD format there would be no comments or clicks on the article. Phil
When they say that vinyl outsells CDs they're probably talking about in store sales. They're not talking about on line sales. Very few cassettes are sold in stores. They're almost always sold on line, and the same could probably be said about CDs. For one thing they're cheaper, especially when it comes to used CDs. You may be surprised to find that CDs actually outsell vinyl, especially when you consider that the vinyl record can cost as much as 5 times as much as the same CD. Could be that another myth got busted.
CD's are easier to store. Important because I don't even play most of them.
I collect certain bands, but they can't bring a good album out every time.
Who cares what the corrupt media says? I buy both CDs and vinyl, incidentally, and often both of the same title. I have no favorite between the two, and I don't stream. Neither are dead in my opinion.
Hi Michael, thank you for watching, I am like you, I like both! The media are looking for clicks that’s all. Humans love to collect. Phil :)
@@NowSpinningMagazine By the way, I really enjoyed your traverse through the Jethro Tull bookshelf CD/DVD compilation releases. I've got them all and am eagerly waiting for the delayed Broadsword and the Beast release. Ian Anderson is really doing those reissues in the right way. I hope he can keep doing them at least through the Crest of A Knave sessions.
Hi Phil, very interesting stats there. I'm still buying CDs, still own some vinyl records I won't part with, and still have a few cassesttes from years ago also. I've been buying music, like you, since I was a kid and it's simply a part of my DNA, and I've no plans to stop. I buy from shops like Fopp and online from Amazon, Cherry Red and also buy CDs and the odd vinyl record on ebay too. I also stream a little bit and still use an ipod- enjoying the shuffle function as you said you do in your previous video. So, I agree, all these different ways of enjoying music are out there for us to enjoy as we see fit. I think the media big up vinyl sales, sometimes while taking a swipe at CD, because to the media vinyl is a romantic story in their eyes whereas CD is a story that will get less clicks as there is less romance and maybe nostalgia involved. If they looked closer they would see a lot of younger people are now getting interested in CD as well as it's a relatively inexpensive way of exploring music which you can collect too without breaking the bank. Sorry, that's a bit of a ramble. Really enjoying your videos.
Hi, thank you for watching. I really enjoyed your ramble, it was like looking into a mirror! Thank you also for your kind words. Phil
Great video! People should think about why it means in regards to sales and formats
Thank you 🙏
Still buy both formats, I do buy mostly vinyl, but for those releases that are only on cd, I will buy it…Mostly Autumn are a band who only issue their music on cd, so I buy them…..of my 6000+ collection, 5000 or so is vinyl, the remaining are cd’s….I love both formats, certain bands such as Uriah Heep I buy both formats…..I have many amazing cd box sets and love these as they tend to include bonus tracks, alternate takes, B sides, great booklets with amazing photos and information on the artist…..I think both formats will be around for a long time, I remember when so many said vinyl was dead, I never listened to the rhetoric, still kept buying at many local vinyl stores, now vinyl has made such a huge comeback in the last 10 years or so, so I can’t really see cds ever disappearing……in the last year alone, I bought both of Heep’s box sets, Nazareth’s box set, Caravan’s box set….
Hi Glen, thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. I agree, neither format is going to disappear! Phil
The main portion of my collection is and probably always will Be Compact Discs. They're always significantly cheaper and easier to manage than Vinyl. And really in my experience, I almost always prefer CD over vinyl, except when they've mastered an album very compressed, but even then, I mostly listen to metal which kind of needs to be compressed to enjoy properly.
Hi Philip, thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts - Phil
At my local Walmart which I am ashamed to admit that I even shop there, seems to be hell bent on causing the demise of the CD. They only stock about 10 titles and the rest of the music that's available is on overpriced vinyl. The sad thing is, you have to wash your hands after browsing through these overpriced relics because of the dust that has accumulated over the months they have been setting there.
Hi Jerry, thank you for watching and sharing your experience. Very interesting! Phil
Businesses always measure things in turnover. The "CD vs vinyl" shouldn't be a thing among music lovers. Both formats are physical formats and that is what we should cheer about: many people still buying physical media, whether it is vinyl or CD (or both for some)!
Started with vinyl in the 60's. Shifted over to CD eventually. You could not pay me to go back to using vinyl! No contest on ease of use, durability of media, accuracy of sonics, when mastered properly. The "warm" vinyl sound is a distortion that most humans interpret as pleasing, but it is not accurate. That said, most of my music consumption is via TH-cam. For me, having visuals of the artist with decent audio is more satisfying.
Absolutely true. Well said. 👍🏻 There's nothing more accurate than digital sound from a disc.
Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. Phil
I never cease to wonder at how tone deaf the music industry can be. Revenue is one thing, but look at the high production costs of vinyl, the fact that it cannot easily scale to meet sudden demand spikes and the undeniable reality that a cost of living crisis is making high value purchases more challenging. And yet the CD firmly remains the volume seller, can scale to meet almost any likely demand curve and, of course, is a lower cost option very much more in step with currently stretched budgets. And all this before we've even factored in the added convenience and general user friendliness. So reports of its new demise are, as you quite rightly observe Phil, grossly exaggerated, in fact totally untrue.
And, of course, chart stats are one thing, but there's also the fact that, in the enthusiast box set market, the CD wins by a long, long way. In fact it is the only format that is capable of delivering such collections at what most people would reasonably consider to be a fair and relatively affordable price.
What I think the stats demonstrate is that, as you allude to, all formats are doing pretty well. A very healthy situation, all things considered. Unfortunately press comment seems to thrive on the need for a hero and villain , a winner and loser, in almost anything.
Hi Chris, thank you for sharing your thoughts on this subject. I agree totally. I saw that on one article every comment was from music face who still bought CDs. I guess that is the point to get a reaction and help with advertising clicks! Phil :)
To quote Victor Spinetti, "It's a plot. A plot I tell you.
All formats exist together in harmony. The press just like to put whatever they like regardless of whether the information is correct or not.
Very true - thank you for watching, Phil
Very interesting update Phil. I don't know any young, working adults that purchase vinyl. Most do a combination of Hi-Res down loads, or cd's. Thanks for the video, and all the best.
Hi Jerry, thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. Phil :)
Great video. Vinyl is fine, but long live the CD!!!
Hi Ken, thank you for watching. I agree all formats are valid but the CD needs more support from the media! Phil :)
Cds is the best psycical format ever. I love vinyls too, but it is something about CDS i like better . Long live CDS 💿❤
Thank you for watching - I agree ☝️ Phil
:)
Thank you for watching and commenting on this video, I really appreciate it. I will be including a weekly update on CD and vinyl sales in my weekly Chart Watch video. Please subscribe, share and like ! Phil :)
Hi Phil. Once again certain people in the media have felt the need to start a format conflict that does not exist outside of their own minds. It is a bit twisted really. Yourself and other content creators always passionately stress that it is the music that counts and not the format it comes in. Pity these media types have such tunnel vision.
Thank you for watching. I do hope our voices are heard. I know more record labels are watching this channel now and i am passionate about keeping this story going for like minded music fans and artists. Phil :)
Hi dear Phil Happy New Year. I agree wholeheartedly with what you said. How devious it is to coerce people with limited funds to purchase the more expensive counterpart when cds offer so much more in boxsets... albeit a bit smaller and more difficult to read the liners because of our age. I cannot afford a turntable and stereo and vinyl counterparts at 40 dollars a pop. For those with deeper pockets... God bless and enjoy by all means. Because of the increase in vinyl the cd is providing a very important role in the physical media market and lives of music aficionados... clearly I am not alone. My two cents' worth. Thank you and to more great physical media and great videos from yourself in 2023.
Hi Tino, thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. Wishing you a happy new year and healthy 2023 - Phil
Hi Phil! Spot on. Someday soon everyone will go “CD Crazy” according to the press.
Thank you - Phil :)
No vinyl for me. Embracing vinyl is the same thing as embracing the Laserdisc again (in my opinion). Back to something very bulky and inconvenient. There was a reason we ended up with something much smaller (and better): the dvd/blu-ray disc. ;)
Both format are or were generational in existence. When the 50s, 60s, & 79s was solely dominated by analog format (vinyl & cassette), everybody were not expecting the onset of digital format. When cd was introduced in the 1980s, it brought fascination to all music lovers to the extent of dumping vinyls. Hence, the famed term "vinyl dump" for several years or few decades later. Literally vinyl was dead. During this period, young generations never had a chance to experience spinning and listening to vinyls. Came the mid 2000, the resurgence of analog music thru reintro of vinyl caught the huge attention of wide young generstions bringing the sales to surprising heights. But the cd format continued to persist, never really dead contrary to what some analouges said. In fact, cd players including advanced digital music formats never ceased in production unlike the turntables and cassette players. In due time, vinyls will warp, gather dust, create storage space problem, waste of money, and irritating tick and pops sound. Do not be surprised tgat vinyl will again find its grave in the near future.
Hi Shaun, thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. Everything turns full circle eventually! Phil
Easy math..Cds are cheaper to produce and yield smaller profit..Vinyl is a super expensive option..Cds are the thorn in the side of the music industry plan to charge outrageous prices for physical format..if cds go away we're stuck as consumers
Hi Phil, firstly Happy new year to you sir! I haven't posted much on your channel recently but I am watching! :)
Interesting video, as has been posted already, the "media" are corrupt and just post "news" for clicks. As you say in your videos, stay away from the news!! It's about the best advice for people these days. Honestly! All the best for 23 Phil. 🤘🎧💿
Hi Keith, thank you for watching and great to hear from you again. So pleased you are still enjoying what I do here. Take care and keep spinning those discs. Phil :)
Interesting video but its the music
that matters for me......
The boring is a home who is empty
Without even LP and CD......
Thank you for watching. First thing I look for when a visit someone is their CDs, Records or books. It does not feel like a home without stuff! Phil :)
interesting stats. Thanks, Phil
Hi Damian, thank you for watching. Phil
I think many of those media articles are written by clueless Gen Z or Millennials who've never owned music, and think all music should be free or available for a small monthly rental/streaming fee, and think CDs are unnecessary, as they mainly use music as a lifestyle accessory that plays in the background while they do other things.
Thank you for watching. I think you are right they do not understand the audience that still love’s physical music. Phil
New subscriber here. Very interesting stats. Perhaps not that surprising that Cliff Richard's fans are buying relatively few vinyl copies. The stats on Muse on the other hand was something completely different, almost 50/50 for CD & vinyl sales . I guess many of their fans buy both formats. Though I'm an old fart I bought one of the CD versions of Taylor Swift's latest album. I don't know how many versions there are - 4 on CD I think - but maybe there are almost 20 000 UK residents who bought 7 versions each. 😉
Hi Max, thank you for watching and welcome aboard! It also crossed my mind how many Taylor Swift fans were responsible for about 4 - 6 sales each. However, each to their own. I bought Whoosh by Deep Purple on CD, vinyl and the box set! Phil :)
@@NowSpinningMagazine Whoosh is on one of my many - too many -wish lists on amazon. But I think I'll settle for the standard CD version. :)
And if they keep pushing the oil industry out vinyl is going to keep going up.A big byproduct of the oil industry is styrene which is a component of vinyl and the plastic industry.Alot of the vinyl is on back order because of Walmart and their colored vinyl which is tying up the vinyl industry
Hi Thomas, thank you for watching. I don’t understand the appeal of coloured vinyl. I bought an album by Opeth recently which came in limited black vinyl! Phil
Fantastic video!!
Thank you 🙏
I hope I helped out with those statistics on CD. Cos I brought all my music last year on CD. And will continue in 2023.. love buying Compact Discs...
CDs rule..... Just my opinion
Hi Graeme, thank you for watching, I am sure you did! Here’s to a another great year for the 💿 Phil :)
Vinyl is been pushed on other channels on youtube really tired of this i cannot afford to be buying records too expensive . I am not foolish will stop buying music if they get rid of compact discs . The recording industry will force consumers back into the arms of music pirates if they do not stop with there greed do they ever learn.
Phil, the media getting something wrong?! I don’t believe it! Lol! 😂Anyway, great analysis, as usual. Rock on and cheers from the USA!
Hi Dave, thank you 🙏 have a great 2023 and thank you for the support! Phil
:)
Absolutely correct analysis Phil.
Thank you 🙏
Staggering to see cassette sales, and large numbers too! When did prerecorded tapes make a comeback? The last one I bought was Santana's Supernatural in 2000. I use cassettes all the time for my own music and bootlegs (mostly from the internet, or recorded firsthand if I go to a gig). For those of us who make and sell (occasionally) our own music, CDs and cassettes are cheaper and easier to use than vinyl, so long live all three formats. Maybe those cartridges will be reintroduced ere long.😁
Hi Alex, thank you for watching. The Cassette revival is very unusual. I thought at first it was because they were being bundled together with vinyl sales but although this is happening they are also being sold individually! Perhaps mini disc and 8 track will be next! Phil
I believe the first and last prerecorded tape I bought (showing my age) was Eagles "Hotel California". Not the year it was released, 1976. Probably 1977 or 1978...
@@maxslamer: Worth getting in any format!
@@NowSpinningMagazine: Hi Phil. People know what they like! Hope this brings down the cost of blank tapes. On eBay, though, you can get professional quality cassettes in nice colours, some of 41-minute duration. PS Thanks for an interesting video.
@@AlexAlexon3897 Yes, I bought it on vinyl later the same year or the next, and I believe the CD version I own is the second I bought. 😇
Why push tapes cassettes , it about what money as thay try to get as much from you as thay can. C.Ds are great and so is vinyl. It's about the spinning and the music you love. It's not a competition it's about buying what you love and enjoy, whatever format, one, the over, or all as long as you are spinning and loving it.
why not both!!?? music should always be listened to on your favorite medium!
i hate vinyl because it is obsolete!! a compact disc can store hours upon hours of music!! and can be played in high quality in every car!! how are u supposed to play vinyl on the go?
CD, Casette and Vinyl revenue is always better than Streaming revenue (which is deplorable) 100 streams don't buy a McDonald's Happy Meal. 100 physical units sold is a STACK!!! ($1000.00 +)
Actually it is down to human nature! People seem to hate anything or anybody that is very successful. CDs made billions for record companies and their repertoire of artistes in the 1990s. The same magazines which praised the CD format are belittling it today. I remember that the very publications that ridiculed the vinyl format as 19th century technology in the 1980s are singing praises for that format today. There are people who will condemn The Eagles or Michael Jackson as commercial dross. But the truth is both these musical acts are supremely talented. The criticism comes from those who are envious of their mega platinum success. The same goes for those who are critical of CDs. The reality is there is no such thing as an inferior format.
Hi Jegaraj, thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts and observations. You are so right ! Phil :)
I feel the same as you
Hi Richard - Thank you 🙏
Lp vinyl records are horse drawn carriage...according to them is a CD space rocket...people don't know anything about sound technology...the CD is superior in all aspects of recording and reproducing sound...!!!
It has been proved again and again that the CD sound is better by far. However, if one likes the “warm” sound of vinyl, which is surface noise which has nothing to do with the music, so be it. With this argument in mind, one could prefer wax rolls, they are even sounding warmer. No, the whole vinyl craze is just marketing for a life style product (you can get LPs on red vinyl!) and people are willing to pay for it because they want to belong to a certain group of people. The labels of course jump on that waggon, as their margins are higher.
Everyone is happy: the vinyl fans feel special, the labels earn more and the CD listeners get CDs for a reasonable price.
@@jameschen2168 On one side we have putting sound in plastic, mechanical record and reproduction, on the other hand we have light laser record of sound, heaven and earth, the stone age and distant future....
How about the sale of Mini-Discs? Are they going up in sales.
Hi Tim, thank you for watching. Well if you had asked this time last year there would be a cassette revival I wouldn’t have believed it. So who knows! Phil :)
@@NowSpinningMagazine I was surprised to hear cassettes are making a comeback as well. I wondering far most of these physical media forms can go? Could they be like they were before the internet and what about the players you play them one? How are the sales of those?
And thanks for all the hard work for these vids.
Good point, there are no real cassette players out there at the moment. I think as humans we like to collect stuff! Thank for your kind words about my videos. Phil
Oh one more thing, hopefully I'm not to pesky with the questions, it would fun to see you do a vid ( that is if you haven't already) is what are some your favorite Album cover art. I have mine I'd like share if you ever do one.
And do you make your own mixed tapes/CDs? I still do.
A lot of fudging the numbers. They are clearly counting used vinyl record sales since many stores sells used vinyl records with only new CD sales in many statistics.
People buy music a lot more than movies. Formats like DVD and Blu-ray would be lower sales than CD.
This is the computer tech industry against consumer electronics.
Cd players are consumer electronic devices.
MP3 player or streaming devices are small computers that hook to the internet.
Car radios have turned into car computers. You can add an after market CD player to the computer just like a desktop. But, it is essentially a computer and not an electronic device (radio) anymore.
I personally find a lot of the computer devices to be poor quality that don't last as long compared to electric devices.
Some forms of music sound better on CD, electronic, ambient, classical or anything with quiet passages
Hi Brendan, that is so true. I have a lot classical music and ambient albums where CD is totally the best format to experience silence between the notes. Phil :)
👍😊⭐. - Heather
Thank you 🙏
What is that ELP box that can be seen next to the Skid Row boxset?
Hi Stephen, thank you for watching - it is this one th-cam.com/video/7zGFY0I8rL0/w-d-xo.html.
@@NowSpinningMagazine Hi Phil, thanks very much. Happy new year!
I think the music industry is pushing this narrative in press releases because they have a vested interest in promoting the thing that makes them the most money never mind the facts.
I would imagine further down the charts old albums such as Fleetwood mac rumours would mainly be vinyl and streaming sales but for all the new stuff CD’s are still in the game.
Hi, thank you for watching. I totally agree. I hope this video and my weekly chart watch series helps balance this out. Phil :)
Being an old chart nerd I'm frustrated when a popular artist release a new album and most of the songs - or all - on the album enters the single chart the first week after it's released. However that seems to be a smaller problem in UK than in the US and Sweden where I live. I've confessed in another comment that I bought Taylor Swift's latest album but 10 of her songs in the top 10 on Billboard was ridiculous. Is streaming counted differently in UK? I'm watching the UK charts every Friday and I haven't seen anything like the Swift case there as far as I can remember. When it comes to the UK album chart I'm a bit curious about why ABBA Gold, Bob Marley's Legend and other old compilations as well as several Arctic Monkeys and Oasis albums are high up on the chart week after week, year after year. Are they still selling so many CD copies of these albums or are there "too few" Harry Styles and Ed Sheerans in competition?
Hi Max, thank you for watching. Yes, streaming is different and tracks can only be official singles. On one of my Chart Watch videos I explain how this works. Older best of albums still sell really well and most of these are vinyl and CD. This can be triggered by a track bring on the TV or just repurposed on TikTok! The sales are usually to younger fans who are buying classic albums. Us older fans already have some of these several times already! Phil :)
@@NowSpinningMagazine Thanks. I'll watch your previous Char Watch videos. My theory is that The Beatles and old Elvis albums sold very well in the 70's and 80's but that the competition from newly recorded albums were stronger then. There's so much old stuff on the UK album chart, which gives me mixed emotions. I mean, I like most of the old stuff :)
Fancy the media lying...who would've thought!! Twisting figures for some sort of agenda is their forte these days. If I only bought vinyl then I'd be buying probably a third or even less of the amount of music I do each year. No way could I afford buying 10-12 LPs a month
Hi Jimmy, thank you for watching, totally agree - Phil :)
This cd-vinyl debate is media bullshit. I am a cd man and am happy with that as cd's are a lot cheaper than the prehistoric vinyl. The so called better sound of vinyl is a myth that has no value no more with the exception for those who have a high market and very expensive wi fi. These days the sound quality of the cd match the vinyl.
Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. Phil
Cd s are dead since the are so cheaply made - for max profit with minimum invest so they dont care
They are still the most popular format -BPI 2022 UK Vinyl Sales = 5.5 Million UK CD Sales = 11.6 Million Germany 2021 Vinyl Sales = 4.5 Million CD Sales = 25.1 Million USA 2021 Vinyl Sales = 39.7 Million CD Sales = 46.6 Million
CD is superior to vinyl in every possible way
Now Spinning Magazine is multi format so we love both and collect both - Phil :)