There's a lot we still don't know about the situation, and a lot that could come out eventually. Don't believe every single comment you see about Kamp Koral online, it may not be entirely true.
Honestly the animation in the trailers for this show looks like it’s not even done. The colors seem unsaturated and designs seem like they were rounded everywhere. But, at least we still have the original show and rewatched our favorite episodes cause I guess cable is not a thing anymore:
Even if we ignore Stephen Hillenburg's death, they have disrespected Kamp Koral: SpongeBob's Under Years in other ways. Look at how Nickelodeon and ViacomCBS are treating Kamp Koral: SpongeBob's Under Years! Using unfinished footage to promote it during the NFL and releasing it on an obscure streaming service called Paramount+. No matter how you slice it, it just all feels disrespectful.
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He knows when you’ve been sleeping, he knows when you’re awake. He knows if you’ve been bastardizing his creations and is coming down to clap those cheeks.
I hate when people say oh this person would’ve liked this or this person would’ve wanted you etc. no one knows how that person would’ve reacted except that person.
@@dannigro8794 Isn’t that what people have been doing this whole time? But instead of saying he would’ve liked it their saying he would’ve hated it? I use to have the same opinion as them but I changed by mind we don’t know what Stephen would’ve wanted and even if he really would’ve hated the Spin-off Nickelodeon owns the show and he willingly signed a contract that allowed that so their not really doing anything morally wrong the spin off is still a lazy idea though.
I don't think we can definitively say he would've liked or hated Kamp Koral. We didn't know him personally. He barely spoke up about spinoffs too, and his opinion on things could've changed at some point. We just don't know.
@@dannigro8794 That's exactly the same as saying that Hillenburg would of hated this though. Everyone has been shitting on this spin-off for months and saying that it's disrespectful and a betrayal while also having no idea about his personal opinions on it. Some of his coworkers say this, some of his coworkers say that but at the end of the day no one outside of maybe a dozen people actually know the situation. If you really want to talk about disrespect then how about putting words in the mouth of a man who literally cannot defend himself?
For that reason I’m not hating the show, rather more uninterested because I expect it to possibly resemble the last movie and post era after the first 3 or 4 seasons when it felt like Sponge Bob didn’t really have charm to it. It could be good, always a possibility but I will stay rather neutral on all this. I hope people enjoy it though and hope it would have been something Sponge Bob’s creator would have loved.
Yeah and also i think he he wasn't a fan of spongebob spinoffs simply because he didn't see much that could be done with the franchise to sustain a spinoff
@@sergiorubens8475 it's actually because he knew it was gonna be a franchise and he didn't want that. He made the show just to entertain kids and it became such a big brand that's what caused him to step away as show runner. Same thing happened to Pendleton Ward with Adventure Time becoming the face of modern CN until TTG.
Let's be real here. Do you honestly think Stephen would look at this and think: "yeah this is really really good". I'll just stick to the classic episodes.
Well he obviously approved of it. If he didn't like it he would've rejected it. He came back as a writer for season 10 before he got als. And season 10 is season 10, not 1-3, not the "classic episodes" you'd rather watch. Stephen was apart of season 10 which wasn't all too great. He was also there for when the characters started to get those exaggerated expressions that everyone hates. So just people ya'll don't like kamp koral, doesn't mean steve wouldn't like it too. Most people don't like season 10 or the exaggerated expressions either, yet he was apart of that. I bet you, if steve died before season 10, and season 10 was exactly the same, people would STILL say "steve wouldn't have wanted this" just because they didn't like it
Kamp Koral definitely something that shouldn't exist if they only had SpongeBob and Patrick i'd be ok with it cause those 2 have known each other since childhood
@@TheBobblemin Yeah, it could be awesome! I mean, as long as they don't do the whole camp thing because honestly, its kind of generic. What if SpongeBob and Patrick met like at a movie theater? That could be fun. If they went with this (with no cg animation, 2d with a new art style would do WONDERS), people might have loved this.
@@HardcorePPGFan I don't know but negative continuity in cartoons are nothing new. People these days are seemed to take the lore, canons, and timelines a bit too seriously.
It still feels disrespectful cuz in the first season stephen wrote how sandy and spongebob met at jellyfish fields for the first time and exchanged names so why now all sudden they met at camp when they were young? I wonder how much details he knew since im sure the concept changed alot
You're grasping at straws here. The Krusty Krab blew up literally every episode. There were instances where there would be irreparable damage done to the Bikini Bottom. Spongebob is a cartoon, it has no continunity.
@@spankypants2793 well here’s the thing, those were jokes. Maybe those endings weren’t quite canonical, but original first episode 7 odd episodes were meant to set up the world of the characters and introduce things. Until then, they haven’t contradicted anything about him meeting Sandy in Tea At The Treedome, or Plankton in the episode Plankton! Plus from a logical standpoint it makes no sense. Sandy was sent as a scientist to study the undersea life and do scientific experiments, by which her Treedome gets funded for (Chimps Ahoy). Why would a random 7 odd year old be allowed to just wander around with no training, or supervision from any fully trained scientists (doubt any Bikini Bottomites know how or would need to know about water suits for “land critters”). Additionally, she’s also stated on many occasions that she grew up in Texas, so why would she be going back and forth like that. If she already lived there for a substantial amount of time why would she feel so homesick in the episode Texas? I could go on and on but they’re ruining Spongebob’s albeit small yet solid continuity and charm and turning it into just... an uninspired, dull, complicated mess. And it’s not even just the story, but the boring jokes, slow pacing, bland art style, darker shading, and even the entire concept of younger versions of a characters feels like those lame trends from the 90s and early 2000s designed for young children to make a quick buck. It’s really quite sad. I want to tell myself it’s good, but I just... can’t. I must ask myself as Spongebob once did, “Where’s the love...” And I wonder if even Stephen Hillenberg himself realized it’s cruel fate and exclaimed, “I tried to tell them... but they wouldn’t listen to me!”. And then a looming shadow of doubt.
@@nickelodeonstuff1572 pretty sure someone found out Kamp Koral was an alternate timeline that was spawned from the original spongebob timeline or something like that
I still think that this spin-off is rather unnecessary in my opinion, but at least Stephen was aware of it’s existence before his passing, so I can’t really say that Nickelodeon full-on waited for him to die.
@@carlrobinberdan7722 Bruh! Nick waiting Stephen to die is just a nonsensical invalid argument. He never said that he didn't want spin-offs but he said he didn't see spin-offs happening. For the Patrick Star Show, it's not even out yet but I think the misinformation is getting out of hand.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 It's just overgrown adults speaking on a dead man's opinion who they didn't even know it's clearly just them holding on to nostalgia that washed away after high school
This is like a mix of fanboy and chum chum, breadwinners, and Sanjay and Craig. All shows that didn’t work out well and only relied on fart jokes and childish nature. This is not a good direction but I will wait til it releases to gauge how it will be
@Dusk Raccoon I saw that on TV Tropes that Sanjay and Craig doesn't rely on toilet humor anymore and it got improved in Season 3. It turned out that the audience wasn't interested since the damage is done and the show was doomed from the start. So the show was cancelled without getting a second chance. Also, Fanboy and Chum Chum becomes a meme last year, but doesn't mean the show will redeem itself if only the show is going to revive. Memes are pretty much like a punishment tool rather than a laughing kit.
It’s Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures ALL OVER AGAIN, because they had the NERVE to insert the name of Toru Iwatani (The Father of Pac-Man) whenever episodes started, which to me, made me upset.
Did anybody else notice that in the Sponge On The Run Movie in Flashbacks, Squidward was one of the campers, while in a preview for the show, he's one of the counselors?
I like how people keep arguing that Kamp Koral: SpongeBob's Under Years is meant to be a spin-off of The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge on the Run, but even that has several contradictions. Sandy WAS NOT WEARING GLASSES in The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge on the Run, but she is wearing glasses in Kamp Koral: SpongeBob's Under Years. Like what the heck?
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I hate that they just act like anything the the original SB is thrown away and they just took the characters. We know that spongebob met sandy in season 1 so how would he know her at Camp koral?
I still hate what is happening now. Like, spongebob should have been over in 2004 after the movie, but OH BOY LOOK AT THIS it's 2021 and WE STILL sucking on it. It's okay if we don't know what Stephen Hillenburg was exactly thinking of this, it's okay if co-workers opinions are varying, but what about us? What about all of us who watched them for all of those years? I could understand a bit and tolerate why they kept the original show still going and created second movie, but anything else is just beyond me. It still painful to look at. It still does not feel normal or wanted. You're free to argue with me and tell the facts like these, but i stand this opinion. I loved spongebob for almost whole life, and this is heartbreaking.
I have a feeling it's gonna be like Teen Titans Go a show that created EXTREME backlash from fans of the original but overtime nowadays we don't really talk about it much anymore.
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@@sammyjaohnson5631 Why Pearl's mom can't be shown. 1) It's funnier when it's unexplained like how nobody knows what Gonzo is on the Muppets 2) You can just assume she was adopted.
Here’s how I see it: Stephen Hillenburg didn’t want spin-offs back in the days when they were planning on ending the show with the movie. If I remember hearing that he left the series for a while after that, and the time when he was gone is when the series was going downhill, and started getting good again when he came back. However, when he came back, he had a new perspective, because it was clear that the show would not going away anytime soon, so supporting and expanding the show with spin-offs at that point might’ve now been a good move.
i want to believe it but paul tibbett has said stephen would’ve hated this and called it a shameless cash grab - i can see him being more okay with kamp koral , it seems more true to the original spongebob dynamic but i rly doubt he would’ve approved of the patrick show
@@abbyschneider4644 I get that Paul worked on the original seasons with Stephen, but he also worked on the show when it declined. People seem to have forgotten that. I am not saying Paul isn't credible, but I wouldn't say he should be the confirmation of Stephen's feelings when he didn't even understand Stephen or SpongeBob enough to keep the show true to itself in those declining seasons.
The biggest problem for me surrounding it isn't the show itself, but the fact it's a prequel with all the characters. It has been well established that Sandy moved to Bikini Bottom a few episodes into the series and that Spongebob moved into Bikini Bottom almost on accident and that he and Squidward met when he moved in. Not to mention we also already Established that Spongebob and Patrick were friends since birth as were Mr. Krabs and Plankton. That is the established Spongebob Lore and it should have been stuck too. If it was just Spongebob and Patrick then it would be ok but not all the characters.
They could have easily made an all new supporting cast for Spongebob and Patrick. But instead they took the rest of the characters and stripped them of the context that made them work so they would fit the cookie cutter mold they wanted to advertise the show with.
My problem IS the show itself and what you mentioned. This spinoff seems completely unnecessary and it literally looks like nothing good will come from this show. there are no interesting factors about its story for me since the story had already been established in the main series and the animation and art also looks cheap and rushed.
Utterly agree there, though I am not sure how well established SpongeBob's and Eugene Crabs' acquaintanceship where before the first episode where he got the job but by the looks of it they seemed to have met each other in the past, perhaps at the restaurant to order a Crabby Patty with Patrick.
Don't forget that he was away from the show between the two movies, and during that time, it basically became *Family Guy* for kids in the sense that they wanted to push the limits of what they could do under a TV-Y7 rating. This also came at the expense of plot, characterization, and funny jokes.
Well... even if Steve approved its production, that still doesn't change how lazily made it is, from the animation, to the writing. But, at least they are not disrespecting his wishes; I can accept this show's existence now.
The CGI is actually okay but I can't tell about the writing. According to the voice actor, the animators did wanted to make something experimental with the CGI that can emulate the 2D animation, like squashing and stretching.
In and interview with TBI, Stephen hillenburg had this to say about spinoffs: "TBI: Have you thought about spin-offs featuring some of the other characters? Steve: The show is about SpongeBob, he’s the core element, and it’s about how he relates to the other characters. Patrick by himself might be a bit too much. So I don’t see any spin-offs." It's ironic that they choose patrick specifically Edit: even crazier, listen what Paul tibbit had to say : ""In the animation business, you know, there always used to be the sort of joke,” says Tibbitt. “When you run out of ideas, you just do Muppet Babies. Steve (hillenburg, the creator) would always say to me, ‘You know, one of these days, they’re going to want to make SpongeBob Babies. That’s when I’m out of here.’”"
It seems Tom Kenny has the same disrespectful attitude towards animated characters that Viacom has. "You don't want SpongeBob to have an arc." Why not? What's so wrong with character development?
Also on Instagram tom Kenny is expain the time line gary was found and spongebob adopt him when he is a adult also sandy is going to be explain in a episode
One thing I know for sure is that when Stephen was even creating the show, from the very start he has claimed he never wanted them to be kids, he always wanted them to be adults which is why spongebob was put into a boating school instead of a high school so he could remain an adult and still follow the rules Nickelodeon set for him in order for the show to run. Plus seeing the amount of continuity error is kinda “ouch” for long-term spongebob fans and Stephen was never certain about spin-offs either. It’s just a complete mess.
There is still so much that doesn't add up. Why did they wait until now to finally say something after all the controversies and death threats? Why did certain crew members flip-flop on some questions in regard to the situation? Regardless, this still looks like it will be a very underwhelming spin-off in which much of the creative decisions stem from what the executives want rather than from the actual creatives.
@@silntwaves Nah instead CN will probably drown it out with Teen Titans Go. Disney XD could be decent, even with all the sitcoms. Netflix however is definitely the most profitable and safe option.
Mmm... There's a lot of vagueness in the quotes. The stuff Stephen saw was related to a new animation style, specifically for the third movie. I don't think that DIRECTLY translates to, "he totally knew about the show and it 100% had his approval!!1" Could he have known? Possibly. The other thing to take into consideration is that Stephen was trying to take care of his health, so keeping up with what Nickelodeon's plans were for Spongebob was probably not his top priority towards the end of his life. Personally, I don't think he knew, not to the extent people are assuming. At most, he probably knew Nickelodeon wanted to do more Spongebob stuff in the new animation style (remember, they were ALREADY experimenting with a different style for the Christmas and Halloween specials). He probably didn't know any specifics, though. Mainly, with the end of his life approaching, he trusted the Spongebob team with his baby, hoping they would make the right decisions for the series. So... is this something Stephen would have approved of? ... The jury is still out. Honestly, we will probably never get an answer, because the man is dead now. Maybe Kamp Koral will be awesome... but even so, my thought is that it will be more like "authorized" fanfiction - in that it technically isn't canon, but Nickelodeon is giving permission to go ahead and make it anyway. At any rate, we can still enjoy the original show. =)
Maybe when they meant he knew about camp coral they were referring to the one in the movie? But I’m not sure and I don’t want to make big assumptions, either way this series is happening whether we want it to or not
Obviously its all manipulative lies. Had Hillenberg supported this show at the beginning, they would have had said it. Coincidence that they are mentioning this now when the show is about to come out instead of having Hillenberg stating this to the public while he was still alive?!
@@Flome810 ok that’s funny but 1.he knew about it it was in production when he was alive 2.the interview was 10 years ago his thoughts could’ve changed 3.he said he didn’t like the idea and didn’t see them becoming successful not that he didn’t want them 4.he signed every chance away if getting what he wants when he left 5.hrs not a spin off it’s a reboot prequel
@@Mirrorcomics24 there's no way to really know if steven actually wanted this or not, i mean he is sadly gone so everyone can assume but we will truly never know. we just know he knew about it existing
The thing is, Kamp Koral ruins the storyline for Spongebob. Spongebob didn’t meet sandy at kamp koral, neither squidward, Mr. Krabs, or any other main characters.
But it would be better if this is an alternate universe where Spongebob meet their friends too early before the events of the show so I don't have a problem with it. In the original timeline, Spongebob and Patrick met each other since childhood.
@@BlockImmigrants Basically, a spinoff is any sort of media that takes place in the same canon (universe), but with a different setting and story. It usually contains characters from the main media it is based off, but can contain different characters as well.
@vailskibum94 These people are gonna be judged & punished for making a profit out of Spongebob for the wrong reasons knowing the show should've ended after the 2004 film.
Paul isnt a producer any more he quited years ago way before KK was in development he is just very outdated when it comes to what steve liked and didnt like
“They announced the spin off right after Hillenburg died! Seems awfully Sus!” Don’t they schedule these promotions to give room for the production to make some final adjustments? Also, even though we all knew that he wasn’t going to be around for very long, his passing still happened rather suddenly. And sure, back in like 2006, he didn’t like the idea of there being a spin off, but times change, and he may have felt differently.
I'm seeing a lot of comments STILL talking about how Nick took advantage about Stephen's death when this video SPECIFICALLY talks about how he knew about the show
I find it understandable that the fans aren't happy about it but for me, I actually do understand what the video is saying and my perspective have changed. It's just that they don't accept the truth and prefer to believing in a lie. The worst part is that they even complained about the timelines too, like how Spongebob met Sandy in the first season, and people freaking out over it. Since negative continuity is pretty common in cartoons, it's rather a complicated one.
@@MoronBoshi Well, I have watched it, and honestly it was kind of disappointing independently of whether Stephen Hillenburg wanted it or not. But his illness and death made it hard for him to put up much of a fight regarding any objections he may have had.
What angers me is how they did the patrick star show. At least with camp koral stephen approved of it. With the patrick star show, it was made after his death, which makes me very angry.
We already knew this, its literally in the movie, it's the fact that the man didn't want any type of spin off to he made, he only wanted the main show to stand alone. Just because he knew dosen't mean he wanted it, we will never know if by the time of his death if he was on board or not, I hope he was
i'm going to take Paul Tibbitt's word over the current showrunner's. The current showrunners have changed the show so much its essentially a different take on spongebob at this point. i'm a massive spongebob fan, but i'm not going to be taking much of what the current team has to say about it considering nick has been having them all do damage control as best as possible for the past few weeks, they aren't taking criticism lightly, and pretty much anyone on the team could call the "baby version" of any show from a mile away as failure material. it never worked. flinstones babies, tom and jerry babies, pup named scooby doo, muppet babies, and many many more that went this same route. i can probably speak for most when i say they shouldve left the kamp koral plot in the movie and not touched it again. most people just want them to continue work on the main show. thats all they need. they didn't need this show, and certainly didn't need to make them children or essentially write out several established plot points only to last minute correct some lol. it may be a cartoon but they took the creator saying "ok, i guess we can give this a shot" and ran 1000 extra yards with it
*Muppet Babies* ran 8 seasons, won several Emmy Awards, and likely ensured there'd be Muppet movies after Jim Henson died. That was the first, but all the wannabes fell short because none of them had that show's basic conceit of the main characters interacting with real-world media that made it unique. For 1980s kids, it was our *Rugrats.* The new version managed to succeed where ABC's live-action *The Muppets* failed: instead of self-consciously trying to be "adult," they accept their lot as a kids' show and do the best they can within that realm.
Kamp Korral is just the kidification of a series in the same vein as “A Pup Named Scooby-Doo”, “Tom and Jerry Kids”, and many other shows. Whether it’s good or not is still up in the air. We have to wait and see the episodes.
You should do a video of how Planet Sheen was going to have a movie in 2017 about Jimmy & friends going to save Sheen from Zennu. Search it up. It was going to happen but due to Nick’s low budget it didn’t happen.
The news has been out for quite a while, but unfortunately this is the first thing I’ve seen on it, glad it’s getting some light, especially from you and the voice actors
I had a really tiny feeling that Stephen wanted a spinoff, I still don't like Kamp Koral because the timeline is way off, but at least we now know that Stephen wanted this :)
@@JojoTheVulture I mean, Korra did have a relation with the original series, like Aang is now an adult who has the beard and other characters in the original show were old now and have children. I haven't watched the show for a long time but I just saw a few clips of it.
I read about Stephen Hillenburg’s rules a while back and I think they were kind of pointless. For one thing, he didn’t want Patrick’s head to be droopy, which occurred a lot in the first season and another rule is that he wanted the characters to be cute at all times.
IF SANDY WAS FRIENDS WITH SPONGEBOB AT KAMP KORAL THEN HOW COME IN “Tea at the treedome” (The first episode that features sandy) THEY ACT LIKE THEY NEVER MET BEFORE. ALSO HOW COULD SHE HAVE THE FUNDING TO GO UNDERWATER BACK (Chimps Ahoy) WHEN SHE WAS A CHILD.
one thing Stephen hillenburg would never want is his show to be a cash grab and his story of spongebob to be changed like they did with spongebob meeting sandy
Hey vail nice Kamp Koral video, I still think that nick isn't caring about Stephen's choice about spongebob having no spinoff and the Patrick show spinoff
Why in this series spongebob and sandy are friends since childhood but in season 1 when spongebob met sandy for the first time he acted like he didn't saw her in his entire life is it because spongebob is a sponge and can't remember stuff or nickelodeon had hand in this??? But even if spongebob can not remember why sandy acted like him even though she is very smart could not she remembered spongebob??? It will stay a mystery😉💸💵
If he approved of it / knew of it then why did one of friend / co-worker call Nick out after the announcement? He literally said that they knew Steven wouldn’t have wanted this
The bigger question is why did Nick wait until near the release of Kamp Koral to say something now? Something is not right here too many unanswered questions and Nick is being way too vague.
People who currently work on the show (aka people who have something to lose) say he would've liked it. People who aren't on the show anymore (aka people who dont have anything to lose) say he wouldn't have liked it. Basically those people aren't allowed to say that Hillenburg would hated it even if he would have. They could get in trouble with Nick for saying that and the people who aren't on the show anymore have no reason to lie since they don't work on the show anymore. I'm not saying its fact he wouldn't have liked it, but it's more likely than not considering the evidence Pretty coincidental that they waited till he died to announce kamp koral though
@@bringme1kscrubscribers10 what do you mean wiki says that Stephen worked on it tom kenny said he worked on it too paul DOES NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT KAMP KORAL BEHIND THE SCenes he does not know the stuff on Kamp Koral he didn't work in years he even said he never worked in it also multiple crew members said he worked on it including tom kenny and tom kenny and Stepehn are great friends
@@Vailskibum Yeah, even if Steven Hillenburg was aware of Camp Coral, I'm not really going to watch it, because I already lost my interest for shows that turn Characters into little kids years ago. Plus, I have better things to watch. 🤷♂️
Can you not see the pattern here? People who currently work on the show (aka people who have something to lose) say he would've liked it. People who aren't on the show anymore (aka people who dont have anything to lose) say he wouldn't have liked it. Basically those people aren't allowed to say that Hillenburg would hated it even if he would have. They could get in trouble with Nick for saying that and the people who aren't on the show anymore have no reason to lie since they don't work on the show anymore. I'm not saying its fact he wouldn't have liked it, but it's more likely than not considering the evidence
Holy crap, you're right! I never thought about that until now. Even if they had said he would've hated it you're right about them getting into trouble with Nick.
@@HereMays It's a possibility. But sometimes, corporations doesn't care about what you what want. If your stuff makes money, you can bet they're gonna milk your stuff until it's dead and that's another reason why these spinoffs are gonna fail.
SpongeBob's face in the thumbnail is my reaction. 😱 wait, so camp coral is an idea that Stephen Hillenburg had a long time ago?! That's crazy to believe!
In the movie sponge on the run in the uk on netflix where it is a Netflix original (came before paramount+) “Kamp Koral” is called “Camp Coral” on the camp sign.
> didn't want spin-offs > *didn't see spin-offs happening* Steve didn't think a spin-off was gonna happen; his opinions would've changed during that time. _Be educated before you speak._
There's a lot we still don't know about the situation, and a lot that could come out eventually. Don't believe every single comment you see about Kamp Koral online, it may not be entirely true.
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Agreed Vail. :)
can you make a video on amphibia? the season 2B trailer came out a while ago.
Now this, is what you call a plot twist
We’ve been tricked, backstabbed, and quite possibly bamboozeled!
We've been smeckledorfed!
@@cyberz55 that made no sense yet i agree with you!
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Honestly the animation in the trailers for this show looks like it’s not even done. The colors seem unsaturated and designs seem like they were rounded everywhere. But, at least we still have the original show and rewatched our favorite episodes cause I guess cable is not a thing anymore:
its india they made the animation
It looks like the French made it lmao
Hahahaha... Hahaha.. that's cause it is unfinished. The storyboard artist confirmed on Twitter awhile ago.
Even if we ignore Stephen Hillenburg's death, they have disrespected Kamp Koral: SpongeBob's Under Years in other ways.
Look at how Nickelodeon and ViacomCBS are treating Kamp Koral: SpongeBob's Under Years! Using unfinished footage to promote it during the NFL and releasing it on an obscure streaming service called Paramount+.
No matter how you slice it, it just all feels disrespectful.
@@MBG-CC Interesting. link?
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If that was the source, Stephen faked his death.
@Samuel Lebler That would be horrifying.
BECAUSE HE’S DEAD.
He knows when you’ve been sleeping, he knows when you’re awake. He knows if you’ve been bastardizing his creations and is coming down to clap those cheeks.
“Stephen would’ve liked this.”
I swear if that doesn’t sound like extreme manipulation with those few words, I don’t know what does...
I hate when people say oh this person would’ve liked this or this person would’ve wanted you etc. no one knows how that person would’ve reacted except that person.
@@dannigro8794 Isn’t that what people have been doing this whole time? But instead of saying he would’ve liked it their saying he would’ve hated it?
I use to have the same opinion as them but I changed by mind we don’t know what Stephen would’ve wanted and even if he really would’ve hated the Spin-off Nickelodeon owns the show and he willingly signed a contract that allowed that so their not really doing anything morally wrong the spin off is still a lazy idea though.
I don't think we can definitively say he would've liked or hated Kamp Koral. We didn't know him personally. He barely spoke up about spinoffs too, and his opinion on things could've changed at some point. We just don't know.
@@Vailskibum oh
@@dannigro8794 That's exactly the same as saying that Hillenburg would of hated this though. Everyone has been shitting on this spin-off for months and saying that it's disrespectful and a betrayal while also having no idea about his personal opinions on it. Some of his coworkers say this, some of his coworkers say that but at the end of the day no one outside of maybe a dozen people actually know the situation. If you really want to talk about disrespect then how about putting words in the mouth of a man who literally cannot defend himself?
R.I.P Stephen McDannell Hillenburg
(1961 - 2018)
Still miss you the best creator of a Nickelodeon Show
I didn’t know that was his middle name
Yeah I don’t know what happened to Sponge Bob after he died:(
Rest in peace.
Rip 🥺😪💛❤
Rest in peace, he will forever be remembered as a legend.
People need to remember that Stephen didn’t say he “didn’t want spin-offs”, he said he “didn’t SEE spin-offs happening”
For that reason I’m not hating the show, rather more uninterested because I expect it to possibly resemble the last movie and post era after the first 3 or 4 seasons when it felt like Sponge Bob didn’t really have charm to it.
It could be good, always a possibility but I will stay rather neutral on all this. I hope people enjoy it though and hope it would have been something Sponge Bob’s creator would have loved.
Yeah and also i think he he wasn't a fan of spongebob spinoffs simply because he didn't see much that could be done with the franchise to sustain a spinoff
Yeah, I'm really excited for the show!
@@sergiorubens8475 it's actually because he knew it was gonna be a franchise and he didn't want that. He made the show just to entertain kids and it became such a big brand that's what caused him to step away as show runner.
Same thing happened to Pendleton Ward with Adventure Time becoming the face of modern CN until TTG.
Ohhhhhhhh ok
Let's be real here. Do you honestly think Stephen would look at this and think: "yeah this is really really good". I'll just stick to the classic episodes.
Again they wouldn't make anything he wouldn't approve of this is just you being stuck in your Nostalgia but I ain't hating
@@Kingmationproductionz not even nostalgia. Old spongebob is clear of the new one
Well he obviously approved of it. If he didn't like it he would've rejected it. He came back as a writer for season 10 before he got als. And season 10 is season 10, not 1-3, not the "classic episodes" you'd rather watch. Stephen was apart of season 10 which wasn't all too great. He was also there for when the characters started to get those exaggerated expressions that everyone hates. So just people ya'll don't like kamp koral, doesn't mean steve wouldn't like it too. Most people don't like season 10 or the exaggerated expressions either, yet he was apart of that. I bet you, if steve died before season 10, and season 10 was exactly the same, people would STILL say "steve wouldn't have wanted this" just because they didn't like it
Yes? The show looks nice and it works really well for a kids show
@@mattpunk931 actually, he came back for the second half of Season 9, but did stay on for the whole of Season 10 and 11 :)
Kamp Koral definitely something that shouldn't exist if they only had SpongeBob and Patrick i'd be ok with it cause those 2 have known each other since childhood
Exactly but why is sandy there she was an adult when they met
I'd actually like a Spongebob and Patrick specific spin off. Like how they became friends
@@TheBobblemin that is a good idea
@@TheBobblemin same, idk how they meet, but I like to think they were playdates
@@TheBobblemin Yeah, it could be awesome! I mean, as long as they don't do the whole camp thing because honestly, its kind of generic. What if SpongeBob and Patrick met like at a movie theater? That could be fun. If they went with this (with no cg animation, 2d with a new art style would do WONDERS), people might have loved this.
Why is Sandy in it? Sandy arrived during the show, she wasn't already there.
Nickelodeon and Spongebob doesn't actually care about the canon so sometimes the episodes and movies will change especially the stories.
@Antonio Mccoy Yeah...
Look at the second episode
Kamp Koral takes place in the Alternate Universe.
@@HardcorePPGFan I don't know but negative continuity in cartoons are nothing new. People these days are seemed to take the lore, canons, and timelines a bit too seriously.
It still feels disrespectful cuz in the first season stephen wrote how sandy and spongebob met at jellyfish fields for the first time and exchanged names so why now all sudden they met at camp when they were young? I wonder how much details he knew since im sure the concept changed alot
SpongeBob has never had any continuity
You're grasping at straws here. The Krusty Krab blew up literally every episode. There were instances where there would be irreparable damage done to the Bikini Bottom. Spongebob is a cartoon, it has no continunity.
@@spankypants2793 well here’s the thing, those were jokes. Maybe those endings weren’t quite canonical, but original first episode 7 odd episodes were meant to set up the world of the characters and introduce things. Until then, they haven’t contradicted anything about him meeting Sandy in Tea At The Treedome, or Plankton in the episode Plankton!
Plus from a logical standpoint it makes no sense. Sandy was sent as a scientist to study the undersea life and do scientific experiments, by which her Treedome gets funded for (Chimps Ahoy). Why would a random 7 odd year old be allowed to just wander around with no training, or supervision from any fully trained scientists (doubt any Bikini Bottomites know how or would need to know about water suits for “land critters”).
Additionally, she’s also stated on many occasions that she grew up in Texas, so why would she be going back and forth like that. If she already lived there for a substantial amount of time why would she feel so homesick in the episode Texas?
I could go on and on but they’re ruining Spongebob’s albeit small yet solid continuity and charm and turning it into just... an uninspired, dull, complicated mess. And it’s not even just the story, but the boring jokes, slow pacing, bland art style, darker shading, and even the entire concept of younger versions of a characters feels like those lame trends from the 90s and early 2000s designed for young children to make a quick buck.
It’s really quite sad.
I want to tell myself it’s good, but I just... can’t. I must ask myself as Spongebob once did, “Where’s the love...” And I wonder if even Stephen Hillenberg himself realized it’s cruel fate and exclaimed, “I tried to tell them... but they wouldn’t listen to me!”. And then a looming shadow of doubt.
@@nickelodeonstuff1572 pretty sure someone found out Kamp Koral was an alternate timeline that was spawned from the original spongebob timeline or something like that
It's kinda like Zelda, where they change timelines left to right.
I still think that this spin-off is rather unnecessary in my opinion, but at least Stephen was aware of it’s existence before his passing, so I can’t really say that Nickelodeon full-on waited for him to die.
@Dusk Raccoon exactly
And that's not the only spin-off. The Patrick Star Show is coming soon too. Now it really looks like they waited for him to die.
@@carlrobinberdan7722 Bruh! Nick waiting Stephen to die is just a nonsensical invalid argument. He never said that he didn't want spin-offs but he said he didn't see spin-offs happening.
For the Patrick Star Show, it's not even out yet but I think the misinformation is getting out of hand.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 It's just overgrown adults speaking on a dead man's opinion who they didn't even know it's clearly just them holding on to nostalgia that washed away after high school
@@poweroffriendship2.0 It came now so you can swallow your words
This is like a mix of fanboy and chum chum, breadwinners, and Sanjay and Craig. All shows that didn’t work out well and only relied on fart jokes and childish nature. This is not a good direction but I will wait til it releases to gauge how it will be
I feel like Breadwinners was at least sometimes funny
"Fart jokes and childish nature" although the preview of Kamp Koral makes jokes about abstract art and old Charlie Brown cartoons.
When were there any fart jokes in this
@Dusk Raccoon I saw that on TV Tropes that Sanjay and Craig doesn't rely on toilet humor anymore and it got improved in Season 3. It turned out that the audience wasn't interested since the damage is done and the show was doomed from the start. So the show was cancelled without getting a second chance.
Also, Fanboy and Chum Chum becomes a meme last year, but doesn't mean the show will redeem itself if only the show is going to revive. Memes are pretty much like a punishment tool rather than a laughing kit.
I liked Fanboy and ChumChum
They really just slapped, “Created by Steven Hillenburg” in the intro. SMFH
It's a bit odd given how, in the end credits, it has a "developed for television by" credit for the people currently working on Spongebob.
Yah he's the one who came up with Kamp Koral but I guess he wasn't apart of the episode writing but he did know about the CGI and all
It’s Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures ALL OVER AGAIN, because they had the NERVE to insert the name of Toru Iwatani (The Father of Pac-Man) whenever episodes started, which to me, made me upset.
I think this should be called "based on the characters by Stephen Hillenburg".
@@acesamm Yes, God forbid they give credit to the original creator...🙄
Did anybody else notice that in the Sponge On The Run Movie in Flashbacks, Squidward was one of the campers, while in a preview for the show, he's one of the counselors?
Probably a continuity error.
I like how people keep arguing that Kamp Koral: SpongeBob's Under Years is meant to be a spin-off of The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge on the Run, but even that has several contradictions. Sandy WAS NOT WEARING GLASSES in The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge on the Run, but she is wearing glasses in Kamp Koral: SpongeBob's Under Years. Like what the heck?
Well at least it makes more sense him being a conselour
@Orion Jean I'm aware, but Kamp Koral: SpongeBob's Under Years said screw that.
@Orion Jean Again, what does that fact have to do with Sandy Cheeks from the TV show SpongeBob SquarePants?
Doesn't this show retcon everything? Squidward first met spongebob as a neighbor, didn't sandy grow up in Texas?
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@@AxxLAfriku shut up and go away
@@AxxLAfriku no
@@AxxLAfriku please shut up
At the same time, even if he knew of it's existence, whose to say he had any say in whether or not it was made
He would've shut it down, wouldn't he?
@@TixGames he likely did not have any say in the matter and also he probably would not have timr to do it because of his illness that sadly killed him
Your putting words into a dead mans mouth
@@jadenbryant9283 he was an executive producer he knew about it stop making up bs statements to try and knock the fact that he knew about the show
@@orangebiscuits3848 Sorry
I hate that they just act like anything the the original SB is thrown away and they just took the characters. We know that spongebob met sandy in season 1 so how would he know her at Camp koral?
I still hate what is happening now. Like, spongebob should have been over in 2004 after the movie, but OH BOY LOOK AT THIS it's 2021 and WE STILL sucking on it. It's okay if we don't know what Stephen Hillenburg was exactly thinking of this, it's okay if co-workers opinions are varying, but what about us? What about all of us who watched them for all of those years? I could understand a bit and tolerate why they kept the original show still going and created second movie, but anything else is just beyond me. It still painful to look at. It still does not feel normal or wanted.
You're free to argue with me and tell the facts like these, but i stand this opinion. I loved spongebob for almost whole life, and this is heartbreaking.
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This comment is funny but pretty irrelevant to what this video is talking about (no offense)
I have a feeling it's gonna be like Teen Titans Go a show that created EXTREME backlash from fans of the original but overtime nowadays we don't really talk about it much anymore.
this will be way better then ttg
@@bug8357 I'm not entirely sure about that.
@@bug8357 I'd rather watch Teen Titans Go than support Kamp Koral
@@stitchlover4381 it hasn’t even came out yet but go off i guess
@@alxandro5504 hey it had backlash when it was announced after Hillenburg's passing. when it DOES come there will be more.
In my opinion, Stephen Hillenburg's rules for the show were crap. His ideas, however, were anything but.
Same Patrick had the right to be suprised
Wait I swear your comment was different or did I reply to the wrong comment...
Steve hated patricks droopy head for some reason and didnt wunna show pearls mom or tell why mr krabs daughter is a whale
@@fernandothesailorwaddledee6237 why did you remove the video about you liking guys? Did you edit the video?
Edit:nvm you did remove ur video of you rubbing ur hand against a mans chest. 🤢
@@TH-camCommenter1st I know that now because after I made that edit I realized that so I probably clicked on the wrong comment
@@sammyjaohnson5631 Why Pearl's mom can't be shown. 1) It's funnier when it's unexplained like how nobody knows what Gonzo is on the Muppets 2) You can just assume she was adopted.
Here’s how I see it: Stephen Hillenburg didn’t want spin-offs back in the days when they were planning on ending the show with the movie. If I remember hearing that he left the series for a while after that, and the time when he was gone is when the series was going downhill, and started getting good again when he came back. However, when he came back, he had a new perspective, because it was clear that the show would not going away anytime soon, so supporting and expanding the show with spin-offs at that point might’ve now been a good move.
This is a really nice theory ngl
This is probably what went down.
That's exactly how I see it
i want to believe it but paul tibbett has said stephen would’ve hated this and called it a shameless cash grab - i can see him being more okay with kamp koral , it seems more true to the original spongebob dynamic but i rly doubt he would’ve approved of the patrick show
@@abbyschneider4644 I get that Paul worked on the original seasons with Stephen, but he also worked on the show when it declined. People seem to have forgotten that. I am not saying Paul isn't credible, but I wouldn't say he should be the confirmation of Stephen's feelings when he didn't even understand Stephen or SpongeBob enough to keep the show true to itself in those declining seasons.
The biggest problem for me surrounding it isn't the show itself, but the fact it's a prequel with all the characters. It has been well established that Sandy moved to Bikini Bottom a few episodes into the series and that Spongebob moved into Bikini Bottom almost on accident and that he and Squidward met when he moved in. Not to mention we also already Established that Spongebob and Patrick were friends since birth as were Mr. Krabs and Plankton. That is the established Spongebob Lore and it should have been stuck too. If it was just Spongebob and Patrick then it would be ok but not all the characters.
They could have easily made an all new supporting cast for Spongebob and Patrick. But instead they took the rest of the characters and stripped them of the context that made them work so they would fit the cookie cutter mold they wanted to advertise the show with.
My problem IS the show itself and what you mentioned. This spinoff seems completely unnecessary and it literally looks like nothing good will come from this show. there are no interesting factors about its story for me since the story had already been established in the main series and the animation and art also looks cheap and rushed.
Utterly agree there, though I am not sure how well established SpongeBob's and Eugene Crabs' acquaintanceship where before the first episode where he got the job but by the looks of it they seemed to have met each other in the past, perhaps at the restaurant to order a Crabby Patty with Patrick.
There is still the argument on why Nickelodeon waited until after Stephen Hillenburg got ALS to tell him about doing a SpongeBob spin-off.
This
Don't forget that he was away from the show between the two movies, and during that time, it basically became *Family Guy* for kids in the sense that they wanted to push the limits of what they could do under a TV-Y7 rating. This also came at the expense of plot, characterization, and funny jokes.
@@Attmay It's not even funny when you realize that both SpongeBob SquarePants and Family Guy have been running since 1999.
Nickelodeon to Stephen Hillenburg:
“Am I really going to defile this grave for money?”
“Of course I am!”
Did you even watch the video?
Dude are you serious? HAVE YOU EVEN WATCHED THE FUCKING VIDEO?
It's a joke guys, jesus
@@beautifulmeeses The joke doesn't make sense either way
@@ardecosstuff8338 you're still unreasonably angry
Well... even if Steve approved its production, that still doesn't change how lazily made it is, from the animation, to the writing. But, at least they are not disrespecting his wishes; I can accept this show's existence now.
The cgi is fine, but the premise and execution is shit
The CGI is actually okay but I can't tell about the writing. According to the voice actor, the animators did wanted to make something experimental with the CGI that can emulate the 2D animation, like squashing and stretching.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 Something about it feels off, and the story felt kind of predictable and derivative.
He never said in the video that Steven Hillenburg approved of this.
As mettaton from undertale once said, “What’s a good show without a plot twist?”
In and interview with TBI, Stephen hillenburg had this to say about spinoffs:
"TBI: Have you thought about spin-offs featuring some of the other characters?
Steve:
The show is about SpongeBob, he’s the core element, and it’s about how he relates to the other characters. Patrick by himself might be a bit too much. So I don’t see any spin-offs."
It's ironic that they choose patrick specifically
Edit: even crazier, listen what Paul tibbit had to say :
""In the animation business, you know, there always used to be the sort of joke,” says Tibbitt. “When you run out of ideas, you just do Muppet Babies. Steve (hillenburg, the creator) would always say to me, ‘You know, one of these days, they’re going to want to make SpongeBob Babies. That’s when I’m out of here.’”"
It seems Tom Kenny has the same disrespectful attitude towards animated characters that Viacom has. "You don't want SpongeBob to have an arc." Why not? What's so wrong with character development?
Kamp Koral throws all Spongebob Squarepants canon out of the window.
Also on Instagram tom Kenny is expain the time line gary was found and spongebob adopt him when he is a adult also sandy is going to be explain in a episode
One thing I know for sure is that when Stephen was even creating the show, from the very start he has claimed he never wanted them to be kids, he always wanted them to be adults which is why spongebob was put into a boating school instead of a high school so he could remain an adult and still follow the rules Nickelodeon set for him in order for the show to run. Plus seeing the amount of continuity error is kinda “ouch” for long-term spongebob fans and Stephen was never certain about spin-offs either. It’s just a complete mess.
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There is still so much that doesn't add up. Why did they wait until now to finally say something after all the controversies and death threats? Why did certain crew members flip-flop on some questions in regard to the situation? Regardless, this still looks like it will be a very underwhelming spin-off in which much of the creative decisions stem from what the executives want rather than from the actual creatives.
Yeah there’s still a good amount of unanswered questions
A bunch of SpongeBob crew members on Twitter got harassed over the spin-off.
@@andykishore yeah I definitely think that’s going to far
Finally, someone said it
Something's fishy going on.
But why did it take so long for them to say this? Something smells fishy here
To persuade the people into watching it my friend.
Vincent Waller had already tweeted about it back in 2019 saying Stephen liked what they were doing.
Because they were probably on NDA. You generally can't speak on shit like this.
Well yeah it smells fishy it takes place under the sea
Nick: *Doesn’t give Harvey beaks a chance*
Also Nick: *Haha, Sponge go BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR*
I'm just hoping Harvey Beaks will give a second chance. Probably it would be better if it's on Netflix.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 or CN.
@@silntwaves Nah instead CN will probably drown it out with Teen Titans Go. Disney XD could be decent, even with all the sitcoms. Netflix however is definitely the most profitable and safe option.
"Stephen Hillenburg knew about Kamp Koral"
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Alright, that’s a clever spin on it
@@mao2037 thanks
Still not a fan it ruins to much continuity
Mmm...
There's a lot of vagueness in the quotes. The stuff Stephen saw was related to a new animation style, specifically for the third movie.
I don't think that DIRECTLY translates to, "he totally knew about the show and it 100% had his approval!!1"
Could he have known? Possibly.
The other thing to take into consideration is that Stephen was trying to take care of his health, so keeping up with what Nickelodeon's plans were for Spongebob was probably not his top priority towards the end of his life.
Personally, I don't think he knew, not to the extent people are assuming.
At most, he probably knew Nickelodeon wanted to do more Spongebob stuff in the new animation style (remember, they were ALREADY experimenting with a different style for the Christmas and Halloween specials). He probably didn't know any specifics, though.
Mainly, with the end of his life approaching, he trusted the Spongebob team with his baby, hoping they would make the right decisions for the series.
So... is this something Stephen would have approved of?
... The jury is still out. Honestly, we will probably never get an answer, because the man is dead now.
Maybe Kamp Koral will be awesome... but even so, my thought is that it will be more like "authorized" fanfiction - in that it technically isn't canon, but Nickelodeon is giving permission to go ahead and make it anyway.
At any rate, we can still enjoy the original show. =)
Maybe when they meant he knew about camp coral they were referring to the one in the movie? But I’m not sure and I don’t want to make big assumptions, either way this series is happening whether we want it to or not
I wish they would’ve said this sooner.
Obviously its all manipulative lies. Had Hillenberg supported this show at the beginning, they would have had said it. Coincidence that they are mentioning this now when the show is about to come out instead of having Hillenberg stating this to the public while he was still alive?!
@@RockNRollSurf What they actually going to do that but he died?
You claims are conspiracy
It would've been better if Nick admitted that Stephen Hillenburg did saw Kamp Koral but I think the fans become pretty anxious and angry about it.
Haters gonna hate
Lovers are going to love
But mostly hate because of this out of all
(I mean like people hating kamp koral )
Exactly there’s many reasons why it actually is respectful to Steven
Reason 1: just like my dad, nonexistent
@@Flome810 ok that’s funny but
1.he knew about it it was in production when he was alive
2.the interview was 10 years ago his thoughts could’ve changed
3.he said he didn’t like the idea and didn’t see them becoming successful not that he didn’t want them
4.he signed every chance away if getting what he wants when he left
5.hrs not a spin off it’s a reboot prequel
@@Mirrorcomics24 okay i agree with you but most people say nick waited for stephen to die and made kamp koral but still ur answers are good
@@Mirrorcomics24 there's no way to really know if steven actually wanted this or not, i mean he is sadly gone so everyone can assume but we will truly never know. we just know he knew about it existing
@Jazzy Clown Shoes exactly
The animation looks so trash
The thing is, Kamp Koral ruins the storyline for Spongebob. Spongebob didn’t meet sandy at kamp koral, neither squidward, Mr. Krabs, or any other main characters.
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But it would be better if this is an alternate universe where Spongebob meet their friends too early before the events of the show so I don't have a problem with it. In the original timeline, Spongebob and Patrick met each other since childhood.
its a kids cartoon who cares if its retconned
@@worstperson2ask Yeah Ik but it sucks. The thing is, they are changing everything about spongebob
@@worstperson2ask There are adult cartoons that also have continuity errors.
“Are Ya Ready For The Spin-Off Premiere, Kids?!”
Hey uhh can you tell me what spin-off mean?
@@BlockImmigrants Basically, a spinoff is any sort of media that takes place in the same canon (universe), but with a different setting and story. It usually contains characters from the main media it is based off, but can contain different characters as well.
No, not at all
Proof that even real life has plot twists. Not just media.
But what about the Patrick Star Show?
@vailskibum94 These people are gonna be judged & punished for making a profit out of Spongebob for the wrong reasons knowing the show should've ended after the 2004 film.
I think it makes sense. The show was announced not long after Steve died, I mean it takes a long time to make shows (specifically animated)
I thought it was confirmed that Stephen *didn't* know about this, and one of the show producers lied...
Paul isnt a producer any more he quited years ago way before KK was in development he is just very outdated when it comes to what steve liked and didnt like
It’s nick, what would you expect?
“They announced the spin off right after Hillenburg died! Seems awfully Sus!” Don’t they schedule these promotions to give room for the production to make some final adjustments? Also, even though we all knew that he wasn’t going to be around for very long, his passing still happened rather suddenly. And sure, back in like 2006, he didn’t like the idea of there being a spin off, but times change, and he may have felt differently.
Stephen will be disappointed.
Actually I'm happy with this show
I'm seeing a lot of comments STILL talking about how Nick took advantage about Stephen's death when this video SPECIFICALLY talks about how he knew about the show
I mean we should just stay neutral for now but let Viacom know if the show isn’t good when it airs
Yeah, they aren't very bright or are just spouting their opinions before watching
I find it understandable that the fans aren't happy about it but for me, I actually do understand what the video is saying and my perspective have changed. It's just that they don't accept the truth and prefer to believing in a lie. The worst part is that they even complained about the timelines too, like how Spongebob met Sandy in the first season, and people freaking out over it. Since negative continuity is pretty common in cartoons, it's rather a complicated one.
@@MoronBoshi Well, I have watched it, and honestly it was kind of disappointing independently of whether Stephen Hillenburg wanted it or not. But his illness and death made it hard for him to put up much of a fight regarding any objections he may have had.
What angers me is how they did the patrick star show. At least with camp koral stephen approved of it. With the patrick star show, it was made after his death, which makes me very angry.
I thought Stephen Hillenburg knew about the spin off the whole time, but I thought Nickelodeon asked about the spin off and he said no.
He said he didn’t see a spin-off working not that he didn’t want one
We already knew this, its literally in the movie, it's the fact that the man didn't want any type of spin off to he made, he only wanted the main show to stand alone. Just because he knew dosen't mean he wanted it, we will never know if by the time of his death if he was on board or not, I hope he was
i'm going to take Paul Tibbitt's word over the current showrunner's. The current showrunners have changed the show so much its essentially a different take on spongebob at this point. i'm a massive spongebob fan, but i'm not going to be taking much of what the current team has to say about it considering nick has been having them all do damage control as best as possible for the past few weeks, they aren't taking criticism lightly, and pretty much anyone on the team could call the "baby version" of any show from a mile away as failure material. it never worked. flinstones babies, tom and jerry babies, pup named scooby doo, muppet babies, and many many more that went this same route. i can probably speak for most when i say they shouldve left the kamp koral plot in the movie and not touched it again. most people just want them to continue work on the main show. thats all they need. they didn't need this show, and certainly didn't need to make them children or essentially write out several established plot points only to last minute correct some lol. it may be a cartoon but they took the creator saying "ok, i guess we can give this a shot" and ran 1000 extra yards with it
@EXTV pup named scooby doo did well but not until waay after its original air date, it was the rebroadcasting that did most of its popularity and hype
*Muppet Babies* ran 8 seasons, won several Emmy Awards, and likely ensured there'd be Muppet movies after Jim Henson died. That was the first, but all the wannabes fell short because none of them had that show's basic conceit of the main characters interacting with real-world media that made it unique. For 1980s kids, it was our *Rugrats.* The new version managed to succeed where ABC's live-action *The Muppets* failed: instead of self-consciously trying to be "adult," they accept their lot as a kids' show and do the best they can within that realm.
But did he know about the Patrick Star Show? No hate this is an actual question
Kamp Korral is just the kidification of a series in the same vein as “A Pup Named Scooby-Doo”, “Tom and Jerry Kids”, and many other shows. Whether it’s good or not is still up in the air. We have to wait and see the episodes.
Pup Named Scooby doo was great though. Other ones like Baby Looney Tunes were just meh though.
But it's not 1990 anymore.
S. Bakyhnh It’s still a trend even to this day. Total Drama Rama is a recent example, though I never saw the show.
0:01 is that a club penguin chair? Bruhh
before watching, I just hope he approved of it
edit: I have mixed feelings
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Same
HAA me too
**gasps** ME TOOO
I question how a baby Pearl can exist when Mr.Krabs is a kid and the mother is still not seen.
Well at least Steven would've been happy,to see his show success again.
( possibly )
They shoulda listened to cartoon network on this one. We didn't like total dramarama we don't like this either😐😑😐
You should do a video of how Planet Sheen was going to have a movie in 2017 about Jimmy & friends going to save Sheen from Zennu. Search it up. It was going to happen but due to Nick’s low budget it didn’t happen.
I'd say this is going to be interesting.
The news has been out for quite a while, but unfortunately this is the first thing I’ve seen on it, glad it’s getting some light, especially from you and the voice actors
“Spirit of a legendary cartoonist gets the move tutor to teach him outrage so he can take his frustrations on a spin-off”
I had a really tiny feeling that Stephen wanted a spinoff, I still don't like Kamp Koral because the timeline is way off, but at least we now know that Stephen wanted this :)
@shaquille mccray No thats not true
@shaquille mccray bro Stephen wanted camp koral
And the show dont have a time line tell me once just one instance when the show had a consitant story?
@@sammyjaohnson5631 I get that, but the timeline is so off, it really bothers me
@@randomreviewsrebooted5156 ok i know what you mean and it bothered me at first but i recommend you do what I did wich is "Dont think to much about" 😂
I used to like Stephen Hillenburg until I realized he was a $100 millionaire
I feel like its going to be like legend of kora if you ignore the first series its pretty good on its own
This isn't a sequel with no relation to the original like legend of Korra, this goes against a lot of things set up in spongebob's canon
I actually thought Korra was pretty good, except for Book 2 which was pretty weak.
Book 3 was my personal favorite, and Book 4 ended the series good.
@@JojoTheVulture I mean, Korra did have a relation with the original series, like Aang is now an adult who has the beard and other characters in the original show were old now and have children. I haven't watched the show for a long time but I just saw a few clips of it.
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I read about Stephen Hillenburg’s rules a while back and I think they were kind of pointless. For one thing, he didn’t want Patrick’s head to be droopy, which occurred a lot in the first season and another rule is that he wanted the characters to be cute at all times.
IF SANDY WAS FRIENDS WITH SPONGEBOB AT KAMP KORAL THEN HOW COME IN “Tea at the treedome” (The first episode that features sandy) THEY ACT LIKE THEY NEVER MET BEFORE. ALSO HOW COULD SHE HAVE THE FUNDING TO GO UNDERWATER BACK (Chimps Ahoy) WHEN SHE WAS A CHILD.
one thing Stephen hillenburg would never want is his show to be a cash grab and his story of spongebob to be changed like they did with spongebob meeting sandy
Hey I’ve been a fan for a couple of years now. Your videos are great keep up the good work!
this is Why I'm NOT Getting Paramount+
Hey vail nice Kamp Koral video, I still think that nick isn't caring about Stephen's choice about spongebob having no spinoff and the Patrick show spinoff
Akira Toriyama knew about Dragon Ball GT, that doesn't mean he liked it.
Why in this series spongebob and sandy are friends since childhood but in season 1 when spongebob met sandy for the first time he acted like he didn't saw her in his entire life is it because spongebob is a sponge and can't remember stuff or nickelodeon had hand in this???
But even if spongebob can not remember why sandy acted like him even though she is very smart could not she remembered spongebob???
It will stay a mystery😉💸💵
They said that they would come up with a good explanation.
If he approved of it / knew of it then why did one of friend / co-worker call Nick out after the announcement? He literally said that they knew Steven wouldn’t have wanted this
The bigger question is why did Nick wait until near the release of Kamp Koral to say something now? Something is not right here too many unanswered questions and Nick is being way too vague.
I don't know why people are agreeing to this so easily. It's kind of obvious that this is sus
People who currently work on the show (aka people who have something to lose) say he would've liked it.
People who aren't on the show anymore (aka people who dont have anything to lose) say he wouldn't have liked it.
Basically those people aren't allowed to say that Hillenburg would hated it even if he would have. They could get in trouble with Nick for saying that and the people who aren't on the show anymore have no reason to lie since they don't work on the show anymore. I'm not saying its fact he wouldn't have liked it, but it's more likely than not considering the evidence
Pretty coincidental that they waited till he died to announce kamp koral though
@@bringme1kscrubscribers10 what do you mean wiki says that Stephen worked on it tom kenny said he worked on it too paul DOES NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT KAMP KORAL BEHIND THE SCenes he does not know the stuff on Kamp Koral he didn't work in years he even said he never worked in it also multiple crew members said he worked on it including tom kenny and tom kenny and Stepehn are great friends
THAT WAS THE LOUDEST IMAGINARY RECORD SCRATCH IVE EVER HEARD
So all this time, we were all angry about Kamp Koral for nothing.
Yep. You just wasted your own breath.
nah there are still valid reasons not to like the show tbh, I just hope people keep more of an open mind
@@Vailskibum Yeah, even if Steven Hillenburg was aware of Camp Coral, I'm not really going to watch it, because I already lost my interest for shows that turn Characters into little kids years ago. Plus, I have better things to watch. 🤷♂️
People still hate it because it is a prequel and cgi
Kamp Koral, perhaps we treated you too harshly.
Kamp koral litterally broke character from spongebob
Not the first thing I expected to see when I opened TH-cam
Can you not see the pattern here? People who currently work on the show (aka people who have something to lose) say he would've liked it.
People who aren't on the show anymore (aka people who dont have anything to lose) say he wouldn't have liked it.
Basically those people aren't allowed to say that Hillenburg would hated it even if he would have. They could get in trouble with Nick for saying that and the people who aren't on the show anymore have no reason to lie since they don't work on the show anymore. I'm not saying its fact he wouldn't have liked it, but it's more likely than not considering the evidence
Holy crap, you're right! I never thought about that until now. Even if they had said he would've hated it you're right about them getting into trouble with Nick.
@@HereMays It's a possibility. But sometimes, corporations doesn't care about what you what want. If your stuff makes money, you can bet they're gonna milk your stuff until it's dead and that's another reason why these spinoffs are gonna fail.
Wait so is this still a disrespectful spin off series?
It never was
We still might not know yet
Yeah, sandy was an adult when she met spongebob, not a baby/child lol
Exacly thats what im mostly confuzsed about and not just that sandy was a scientist when she was a child
Because thats why shes in the ocean in the first place because shes studing the ocean
@@cloud99955 studying*
@@LoonyBoony ok
YES PEOPLE, STEPHEN KNEW ABOUT THE SPIN OFF AND HE HELPED CREATE IT!
But hey, they gotta get food on the table somehow
You can say that about literally any controversy
That's the oldest excuse in the book.
Nickelodeon at this point doesn't give a fuck now!
it really just shows that this company can be very disrespectful
SpongeBob's face in the thumbnail is my reaction. 😱 wait, so camp coral is an idea that Stephen Hillenburg had a long time ago?! That's crazy to believe!
In the movie sponge on the run in the uk on netflix where it is a Netflix original (came before paramount+) “Kamp Koral” is called “Camp Coral” on the camp sign.
It still feels scummy to me considering he didn’t want spin-offs, but I’ll give it a chance.
> didn't want spin-offs
> *didn't see spin-offs happening*
Steve didn't think a spin-off was gonna happen; his opinions would've changed during that time.
_Be educated before you speak._
My assumption: The series began development in 2016-2017-ish
Nickelodeon is continually taking orange shits on Hillenburg's grave
And you're continually shoving the words in my mouth again
Stephen knew about Kamp Koral? But that's impossible!
Watch the video atleast
Nick is gonna be freaking busted