As someone that owned a C5Z, I don't. C5's are really shoddily put together. You also get all the fun stigma of a 65+ year old's dream car. C5s have issues with EBCM module, hope you don't care about ABS, TCS, or stability and if you have an older C5 you're SOL if it fails so you need at least a 2000/2001+ I believe to send it off to ABSFixer when it inevitably dies due to poor engineering. Bad design on the rear main seal, so expect that to fail and leak and require the entire rear end + trans to be dropped to replace. Expect to replace the rear gasket seals on the rear end that always leak. Don't forget torque tube bearings, those also like to fail. You also want to make sure you undo the awful column lock setup, since C5s are extremely fiddly about voltage issues. You can get it stuck and be SOL without a tow or a little aftermarket tool that undoes it, so plan to install an LMC5 to bypass it and just have no safety since for manual C5s GM never fixed it right. And if you have a C5 FRC/Z06 the door seals are a PITA to find and you usually have to buy the entire set rather than just what you need thanks to the rarity and the fact most C5s had a targa top and the hatch. Also the pop up headlights use cheap plastic shafts that will absolutely be brittle by now and break if you try to aim the headlights right so plan to put in the bronze replacement. That's also if you can get over the really shit interior with the radio right out of a Silverado. Huge panel gaps and cheap plastic everywhere. Really chintzy seats that do nothing to hold you in place, but never fear, you can pull up and engage the ratcheting on the lower belt as the lamest attempt to make up for seats that don't hold you in place. These things are old as hell now, the engine is probably the only good part - unless you have an LS6 within a certain range where they had an increase risk of failure due to a bunch of poorly manufactured valve springs that you absolutely need to replace. I used to think these cars were all that, but no respect for them anymore. Let the old men buy them and putter around to Frisch's and Bob Evans and flex on little kids with their old man car. If someone really wants a Corvette for some reason, don't go below a C6.
@@SilverScarletSpider I think in a lot of ways the C6 has same underpinnings as the C5, but with overall improvements. You can see a lot of the same stuff there, but overall the quality is better (For a GM). It helps to understand, the C5 Corvette was built on a shoestring budget. GM almost killed it off with the C4, but with the limited budget they made the C5 so it had compromises due to that. Because it did well at the time, the C6 received a more proper budget. Mine had 28k miles and seemed very clean, but still developed those issues. It was fast, but the C5's you're getting for $10k are going to be like '97-'99 most likely. No idea what C5Z's go for these days but $20k~ seemed about right so not nearly as cheap, but if you want to go fast better to start with the better platform (of the two). I guess it would depend on what you want to do and the budget. I'm not sure there are many great performance cars for $20k or less, it's always a trade off somewhere either in reliability, power, quality, or something like that. I'd honestly avoid '90s cars, they're all quite old now and not as great as most remember them (when they were much newer). Personally I've been converted to German makes. I'm looking at an RS3 as an eventual next car. GT-R's used to be attainable in the $65k range for a '13 but they've gotten out of hand with the used car price hikes and now '09s are going for that and not worth it IMO. You can pick up a Tesla P90D for $55k~ which are stupid fast despite not being the latest hotness (Plaid). But most I think want some kind of affordable $10-20k performance vehicle. I wouldn't put much faith in an E92 3-series as mentioned in the vid, that era had HPFP issues and by now all that plastic coolant piping and everything will be drying up and cracking. I personally think the old 2010-2011 E63 with the M156 are pretty nice deals and scare stories on German reliability IMO way overblown, but they did have a head bolt recall that you have to make sure is done if certain years. An M156 powered C63 can be had for a little more but I always think of safety and know the C-class did not have a great crash result back then and would trust the E-class more. Maintenance is key to any car, but particular to German makes. Just have to look at what can fail, what's common, and the costs. Not a lot of options to play without paying, unless you don't want a lot of power or don't mind very sketchy reliability.
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Listen, I'm glad they're enjoying their Audi, and it's certainly worth more than my Kia, but I swear that thing is so hideous every time I see it I fear it's going to give me an aneurysm.
I just picked up a C6 Corvette and loving ever minuet with it. It is the best performance you can can buy for the money. Any C5, C6, C7 between 10-40k is an absolute bargain.
Missing the official supercar killer: Lotus Exige Cup 430. Not sold in America, but it manages to decimate cars costing 1mil and up. And it has a younger, less attractive, slightly slower sibling that is sold in America: the Evora 430.
As an Alfa Giula owner (AWD 2l Turbo not qv) I’m happy it’s getting some love from the ideal team for once. However, it does NOT get more looks than a genuine super car, but yes it is absurdly gorgeous.
Along with the Guilia they should include most of the s and rs cars from Audi with a fbo audi you can push around 500 on stock block and because it's awd that means basically a sub 3.5 second 0-60. That's just the s lineup s3-s5 but with the rs cars you can easily push 600whp. rs3-rs6.
@@djbis I was in love with them in 2012. Went to a dealer to get a S4, and they tried to play me for stupid to get me to buy an A4. I left because of this, and went up a block to Infiniti. Got the Manual transmission G37S.... and still with Infiniti to date. Currently driving my 3rd Infinti car the Q60S (Red Sport) and loving it. I still like the Audi's look, but don't care due to that they try to "play me for dumb" trickery 10 years ago.
E89 Z4 35i and 35is came with n54 aswell. More expensive than 135 or 335 but if you want something a bit different its a great choice aswell. Owned my Z4 for almost 6 years. GR Supra on a budget i would say. and it comes with manual or DCT.
Fuel efficient too. The base audi TT is a very feminine looking car. But the TTRS no woman would dare drive that thing that fast. Also the aggressive looks draw the Male crowds in. We have a 7 second TTRS in my country on a stock engine
I have both a c5 zo6 1000hp and also a 3rd gen trans am gta with a 406ci 603hp and ws6 now its not as fast as a supercar but with just over $40 000 into it she runs a 10.06 quarter it beat a challenger 392 and a few new mustang 5.0
These videos are exactly why I bought my 07 335i 3 days ago and altho it is a matinance heavy car it is WORTH IT. It's great on twisty roads, it's great on a straight road and rides so good.
I want an 06 GTO. Those things are fast with over 400hp and they are only like 20k vs some of these cars that are way more and will do pretty much the same times. Plus it’s an ls and you can get it to 500-600hp pretty easily and smoke pretty much everyone on the streets
That GTO and the Chevy SS are two on my short list along with the CTS-V. I love how GM shoved Vette engines into so many other bodies for a while there.
@@stupidpieceofequipment I do follow a lot of cars, but I didn't want to look like a fool because there actually was a model 459. Like a special edition or one off or something
5:00 while yes the stock Toyota GR Supra is fast in the straight line; it is a GT BMW Z4 car not built for the track. Throttle House and Best Motoring both did videos where the stock $35k Honda Civic Type R beat the $53K Toyota GR Supra Mark 5 at the track.
@@GokuTheHusky I love Jackie Ding and his channel. The stuff he does with his Toyota Supra and Honda S2000 are amazing. But you either have reading comprehension issues or are mentally deficient if you think Jackie’s Supra racecar is stock.
@@SilverScarletSpider Lmao you literally said "it is a GT car not built for the track". Who cares about stock though? Cars are meant to modded. The type R might be faster stock but just look up the overheating issues once you actually mod them. No way youre getting a type r for 35k in this market.
A mate of mine went on a corporate track day, he drove Ferraris, Lambos, Porsches and the Nissan GTR, I asked him which was the best car he said hands down the Nissan, he couldn't believe how the thing is a monster and makes even mediocre drivers good! He said all the other cars were OK but nothing like the Nissan. I said, so you'd buy the Nissan, he said Nope, he'd buy the Ferrari. I asked why, his response was....It's a Ferrari
The people that can afford supercars really don't care that they're getting beat at the track by these cars. They're paying for the prestige and that's recognized by everyone...not just car people.
i just love when he says those cheap cars will need a little bit of work, when the main problem of these cars when bying them is that you'd have to work on them ALOT
@@sebastianc.4627 APR, EI, CTS TURBO, 034 PARTS intercooler, turbo back exhsust system, throttle pipe, turbo inlet/ outlet pipes, hi flow boost hose kit, catch can kit, coil packs, dsg/ecu tunes, sway bars, adjustable end links, ohlins coilovers, track motor/trans mounts, intake, camber plates, light weight pully, probably some shit im forgetting but its a full stage 2 car not missing anything. And I have a dynograph to prove my power figures. Tuned for 91, 93 files rips tho
Would’ve definitely included the Mustang Gt w/ the 10r80 transmission. That 10 speed is no joke, then you add some bolt ons & e85 you’re already at 500whp simply N/A. Boost it & it’s nearly unbeatable.
@@Nunya644 I’ve had a 6gen Camaro 2ss, Cadillac V series, & have had two Mustangs, including my current Performance pack. I have enjoyed the Mustang far more than the previous cars. Yikes.
Dude you forgot about an Audi B8.5 S5. I have a manual version with 480HP that has same acceleration as a Gen 2 CTS V but will kill it in the corners. Payed 30k for a low mileage car in Sepang blue.
It's irrelevant unless you really are after pure speed. Supercars are as such because they are no-compromise at every level. You buy them because they have hand-stitched dashboards, titanium gear linkages and carbon fibre prop shafts... Not simply because of numbers round a track.... My E46 M3 got spanked by a fantastic looking '87 Fiesta XR2 couple years back... but he's still driving a Ford.
A C5 Z06 or a C6 Z06 or Z51/GS or really any LS3 vette & up. I have a 2003 Z06 makes 718whp on a mustang dyno (typically lower reading than dynojet) & it’s “overbuilt”….you could get to that level for $15-20k for car itself, $15-20k for cam/headers/centri blower/extra cooling/shifter/fueling/meth/tune/tires
@@troynewman3647 i know. C5’s were 10-15 for a pretty good one but they are shooting up fast. Im 23 so i cant afford insurance and a payment id have to buy it outright and that’s getting impossible
None of these sleeper lists is complete without the 1996 Volvo 850 Turbo wagon.......just saying that because I owned one. AND I owned a Honda CRX which is another wonderful sleeper car that is so easy to mod. I believe who ever had the car before I did had done something to it (I was just 17 when I got her and knew nothing about cars) when I smoked a 300Z on Utopia Parkway in Queens. Me and my best friend had taken her cruising and got honked at - and my car was just so much easier to weve in and out of traffic. There was more "woo!!" in my car that day than a Ric Flair WWE promo. Good memories.
It is nice to see BMW cars on lists, as for1/4 times your correct, my 2008 runs the 1/4 in 10.63, then takes me to work day in day out. It is the most fun and rewarding car I have ever owned. Yes there a little most costly to build up to this point but so worth it. Can you say 4 door sleeper.....Yes I can
When did they fix the carbon sludge buildup Issue on backside of valves? When they added port injection back in addition to DI like Ford did? I remember was common to bring in to bmw for a top end tear down & walnut blast. Other than that….yeah can be fast. My buddy had a 2009 335xi that was tuned- pretty fast w/ just a tune
1992 honda civic si hatchback with j32a2 swap and cali approved, also a 12 sec car all stock and yes stock with those 14 in steelies hubcaps, full interior, system, no filter or exhaust system, even has power steering, and A/C..its just a California BARD approved true Sleeper ride..still have it.
That giula is no joke. I own a performance Tesla and thought it would be easy w as it pulled along side of me. We both hammered at the same time and I could not pull on that thing. Mad respect for that Alfa, it’s a stupid fast car.
It depends where you live ..to modify a BMW 335i in Aussie would cost you a packet...just to maintain and service it you may as well buy a supercar in the first place. Plus your reliability would then taste like vegemite.
I bought a Corvette c5 z06 in November 2021 for $15,000. It was modded and has 460whp. You cannot go faster for the money, especially just buying a rocket without doing work.
Get you a 2010 to 2016 Camaro 2SS with the 6.2L LS3 and the 6sp trans. Remove anything not needed to shave weight. Swap in a higher duration cam. Slap on some long tube headers. Then have it dyno tuned. You'll then laying down some pretty quick 0-60 and quarter mile times as well as a potential 170+mph top speed. All for a pretty cheap price and a car that can beat almost anything from red-light to red-light.
Or you can spend just a little more for a stroker kit to take the LS3 from the stock 376ci(6.2L) to 416ci(6.8L) using forged internals. Then add a moderately sized turbo or centrifugal supercharger for outrageous power. A street beast that will skull drag any super or hyper car...for potentially less than $20k. And I'm a Mustang guy!
That fix thing can clear the check engine light wherever u r whenever u want? It definitely doesn’t work right before getting an inspection done for registration… right???
I'm mean cool list and everything, but if you mention the GR supra, and the Alfa Romeo, for that price you can get a second hand M4 F82 in decent condition...
Doesn’t matter what you buy, it depends on who’s behind the wheel! You can have all the gear & no idea or you can just destroy people who “think” they can drive!!👌
Your program is well prepared and filmed . The amount of information injected pip is also helpful. You also command credible knowledge of products and values . So what’s not to like? Your concepts of relative value between the self worth of a Human Being and stature based upon kinship with aging pieces of Metal. You do this by offering various comparative innuendos of the aforementioned. These provide nothing to enrich your Channel other than highlight your equation of separateness from others. I’ve enjoyed and have owned many classic cars /fast cars and boats bikes and those who formed an appraisal of me based on possessions were usually completely incorrect. You are so practiced and polished in the presentation of valuable info concentrate on it!! Your comments on attire color etc are exhibited in the color and theme of the Paint Motif on your Audi and it’s blending with your designer Windbreaker. I appreciate your show and prep wk.
I really agree with your inclusion of the C5 Corvette. I also really like the Pontiac Firebird Trans Am WS6
@Jason Shenk too bad your Fox body looks like ass. 🤓🤡 New Edge SN95 Terminator Mustangs from 1999-2004 are the best by far.
As someone that owned a C5Z, I don't. C5's are really shoddily put together. You also get all the fun stigma of a 65+ year old's dream car. C5s have issues with EBCM module, hope you don't care about ABS, TCS, or stability and if you have an older C5 you're SOL if it fails so you need at least a 2000/2001+ I believe to send it off to ABSFixer when it inevitably dies due to poor engineering. Bad design on the rear main seal, so expect that to fail and leak and require the entire rear end + trans to be dropped to replace. Expect to replace the rear gasket seals on the rear end that always leak. Don't forget torque tube bearings, those also like to fail.
You also want to make sure you undo the awful column lock setup, since C5s are extremely fiddly about voltage issues. You can get it stuck and be SOL without a tow or a little aftermarket tool that undoes it, so plan to install an LMC5 to bypass it and just have no safety since for manual C5s GM never fixed it right. And if you have a C5 FRC/Z06 the door seals are a PITA to find and you usually have to buy the entire set rather than just what you need thanks to the rarity and the fact most C5s had a targa top and the hatch. Also the pop up headlights use cheap plastic shafts that will absolutely be brittle by now and break if you try to aim the headlights right so plan to put in the bronze replacement.
That's also if you can get over the really shit interior with the radio right out of a Silverado. Huge panel gaps and cheap plastic everywhere. Really chintzy seats that do nothing to hold you in place, but never fear, you can pull up and engage the ratcheting on the lower belt as the lamest attempt to make up for seats that don't hold you in place.
These things are old as hell now, the engine is probably the only good part - unless you have an LS6 within a certain range where they had an increase risk of failure due to a bunch of poorly manufactured valve springs that you absolutely need to replace. I used to think these cars were all that, but no respect for them anymore. Let the old men buy them and putter around to Frisch's and Bob Evans and flex on little kids with their old man car. If someone really wants a Corvette for some reason, don't go below a C6.
@@SilverScarletSpider I think in a lot of ways the C6 has same underpinnings as the C5, but with overall improvements. You can see a lot of the same stuff there, but overall the quality is better (For a GM). It helps to understand, the C5 Corvette was built on a shoestring budget. GM almost killed it off with the C4, but with the limited budget they made the C5 so it had compromises due to that. Because it did well at the time, the C6 received a more proper budget.
Mine had 28k miles and seemed very clean, but still developed those issues. It was fast, but the C5's you're getting for $10k are going to be like '97-'99 most likely. No idea what C5Z's go for these days but $20k~ seemed about right so not nearly as cheap, but if you want to go fast better to start with the better platform (of the two).
I guess it would depend on what you want to do and the budget. I'm not sure there are many great performance cars for $20k or less, it's always a trade off somewhere either in reliability, power, quality, or something like that. I'd honestly avoid '90s cars, they're all quite old now and not as great as most remember them (when they were much newer).
Personally I've been converted to German makes. I'm looking at an RS3 as an eventual next car. GT-R's used to be attainable in the $65k range for a '13 but they've gotten out of hand with the used car price hikes and now '09s are going for that and not worth it IMO. You can pick up a Tesla P90D for $55k~ which are stupid fast despite not being the latest hotness (Plaid).
But most I think want some kind of affordable $10-20k performance vehicle. I wouldn't put much faith in an E92 3-series as mentioned in the vid, that era had HPFP issues and by now all that plastic coolant piping and everything will be drying up and cracking. I personally think the old 2010-2011 E63 with the M156 are pretty nice deals and scare stories on German reliability IMO way overblown, but they did have a head bolt recall that you have to make sure is done if certain years. An M156 powered C63 can be had for a little more but I always think of safety and know the C-class did not have a great crash result back then and would trust the E-class more. Maintenance is key to any car, but particular to German makes. Just have to look at what can fail, what's common, and the costs. Not a lot of options to play without paying, unless you don't want a lot of power or don't mind very sketchy reliability.
This dude knows nothing about building cars bro lol he is not a gear head
love a Firebird
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you kn it the corvette
Mazda race car
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@@blujet I see you
Just got mines n the mail yesterday...
Listen, I'm glad they're enjoying their Audi, and it's certainly worth more than my Kia, but I swear that thing is so hideous every time I see it I fear it's going to give me an aneurysm.
Good point!
ugly is an understatement 🤮
Are there people that think audi is ugly?
@@m.o.5291 Where did he say that you biggot
each to their own i guess
I just picked up a C6 Corvette and loving ever minuet with it. It is the best performance you can can buy for the money. Any C5, C6, C7 between 10-40k is an absolute bargain.
every american musclecar/supercar is a bargain. Sadly not so much here in the EU, but the Mustang GT is still the cheapest car to offer 500 bhp.
Yea my only probably with corvette interiors look so outdated on c6 n down
Brad drives an R8 now,
He has a new definition of Cheap.
Missing the official supercar killer: Lotus Exige Cup 430. Not sold in America, but it manages to decimate cars costing 1mil and up. And it has a younger, less attractive, slightly slower sibling that is sold in America: the Evora 430.
Less attractive? Bite your tongue sir that baby is fire😩
I forgot about that one
Ultima isn't here either, given its a kit car, but still.
@@ninetenduh Yup true
He called the 458 a 459 in the intro 😂😂😂
I was about to say
He is a car youtuber so that is not good
No, thats definitely a 459
Because he doesn’t know what he talking about
He's just taking the piss boys.....
Ferrari 459 🙂
It hurts me
its ferrari 469 duh everyone knows that lmao
@@rayhanrizvi334 nope nope 419 👀😅
@@chicoj-r1906 stop the cap, its 429
Can't wait for the upcoming 619
As an Alfa Giula owner (AWD 2l Turbo not qv) I’m happy it’s getting some love from the ideal team for once. However, it does NOT get more looks than a genuine super car, but yes it is absurdly gorgeous.
Along with the Guilia they should include most of the s and rs cars from Audi with a fbo audi you can push around 500 on stock block and because it's awd that means basically a sub 3.5 second 0-60. That's just the s lineup s3-s5 but with the rs cars you can easily push 600whp. rs3-rs6.
@@gabehodos-rich2372 as an Audi lover I have to agree I’ve seen some rs6 hit 800hp
Nice car
I love Audi's looks and design, but I hear a lot of stuff about being expensive to maintain, and to boot, not all that reliable...? 😢
@@djbis I was in love with them in 2012. Went to a dealer to get a S4, and they tried to play me for stupid to get me to buy an A4.
I left because of this, and went up a block to Infiniti. Got the Manual transmission G37S.... and still with Infiniti to date. Currently driving my 3rd Infinti car the Q60S (Red Sport) and loving it.
I still like the Audi's look, but don't care due to that they try to "play me for dumb" trickery 10 years ago.
Cough Cough...135i also came with the N54 & is slightly faster due to less weight & shorter wheelbase
Thank you
E89 Z4 35i and 35is came with n54 aswell. More expensive than 135 or 335 but if you want something a bit different its a great choice aswell. Owned my Z4 for almost 6 years. GR Supra on a budget i would say. and it comes with manual or DCT.
Ferrari Four Five Nine !!!
we are still 15 seconds into the video dude come on 😂
The ideal cars team should get an Audi TT RS that is faster than this guy’s Audi R8 just to mess with him 😂👍
I've always thought the TT to be a feminine car kinda like a Mitsubishi eclipse
@@snowjammma same
@@snowjammma agreed but still gorgeous to some. I love my 8J TTRS ^_^ gets beastly with the tune, downpipe, intake, IC lol
@@djjhydro I would definitely drive one if given the chance, I mean it's still an Audi
Fuel efficient too. The base audi TT is a very feminine looking car. But the TTRS no woman would dare drive that thing that fast. Also the aggressive looks draw the Male crowds in. We have a 7 second TTRS in my country on a stock engine
C5 is the popular choice, but what about the LS1 Trans Am/Formula or Camaro Z28/SS?
I have both a c5 zo6 1000hp and also a 3rd gen trans am gta with a 406ci 603hp and ws6 now its not as fast as a supercar but with just over $40 000 into it she runs a 10.06 quarter it beat a challenger 392 and a few new mustang 5.0
The audi's colour is really getting to me 😂
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How to get a supercar for free? Make your own with wood and put in real engine and headlights and all important stuff
It's a wrap
These videos are exactly why I bought my 07 335i 3 days ago and altho it is a matinance heavy car it is WORTH IT. It's great on twisty roads, it's great on a straight road and rides so good.
welcome in the club mate congrats! i have 335i 2012 , fu*king awesome machine
Bimmer all the way man! I have a 135i n54 fbo 2+ tune and it flat out rips! Real sleeper!
Hush, don’t tell anyone, I still want mine)
The disel version is much more reliable and can produce more power and torque
Sooooo true running 239,000 sewing machine tell get down on it💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿💯🏆
Wow I missed there was a Ferrari 459, this is so informative. Thank you.
It's called "459 China"
That Alfa Rome model in the end of the video was on the movie “6 Underground”, in a minty green to fluorescent green colour.
man i hate it when i see a car that cost 10k in America while it cost 20k here in Europe :(
We, in america, feel the same about euro cars.
I love this mans enthusiasm my respect for the effort he puts into these videos.
3:35
This hurt just a little bit
We love our vegemite over in the land of AUS🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
I want an 06 GTO. Those things are fast with over 400hp and they are only like 20k vs some of these cars that are way more and will do pretty much the same times. Plus it’s an ls and you can get it to 500-600hp pretty easily and smoke pretty much everyone on the streets
That GTO and the Chevy SS are two on my short list along with the CTS-V. I love how GM shoved Vette engines into so many other bodies for a while there.
ferrari 459? thats the backend of the 458 right? or did i miss a whole new model?
I hope ur joking lol
@@stupidpieceofequipment thats what the voiceover says. ferrari 459.
He clearly meant to say 469, because nice.
@@ArunKumar-hy8rz yes i know that but i said i hope ur joking as in the fact that u asked it u missed a whole new model
@@stupidpieceofequipment I do follow a lot of cars, but I didn't want to look like a fool because there actually was a model 459. Like a special edition or one off or something
I paid 15k CAD for an ultra clean E63 AMG 2008 507HP, it keeps up with supers on the highway BONE STOCK. Ultimate sleeper.
Here in poand, cars are generally ~~30% more expensive than in us, but quatrofromaggios go for roughly 45k
Quadrofrommmmmmmaaaaaagggiiiooo
Quatrifoliiiiiigliooooo 😅
QuadrantePerformante?
Home to india habibi.. 300% tax
E90, e92, the difference is mainly your personal preference. Both the sedan and coupe 335i slay once you mod them
5:00 while yes the stock Toyota GR Supra is fast in the straight line; it is a GT BMW Z4 car not built for the track. Throttle House and Best Motoring both did videos where the stock $35k Honda Civic Type R beat the $53K Toyota GR Supra Mark 5 at the track.
Look up jackie ding and that is easily proven wrong...
@@GokuTheHusky I love Jackie Ding and his channel. The stuff he does with his Toyota Supra and Honda S2000 are amazing. But you either have reading comprehension issues or are mentally deficient if you think Jackie’s Supra racecar is stock.
@@SilverScarletSpider Lmao you literally said "it is a GT car not built for the track". Who cares about stock though? Cars are meant to modded. The type R might be faster stock but just look up the overheating issues once you actually mod them. No way youre getting a type r for 35k in this market.
im not a fan of the Zupra but thats just a Honda. nothing special. the Zupra was bred on the nurburgring. GT car??! lol silly ricer.
A mate of mine went on a corporate track day, he drove Ferraris, Lambos, Porsches and the Nissan GTR, I asked him which was the best car he said hands down the Nissan, he couldn't believe how the thing is a monster and makes even mediocre drivers good! He said all the other cars were OK but nothing like the Nissan. I said, so you'd buy the Nissan, he said Nope, he'd buy the Ferrari.
I asked why, his response was....It's a Ferrari
Never mess with a Honda civic 😂😂😂💯
Only Honda Civics where the owner put $15k into on top of the $1,500 he bought it for on the Facebook Marketplace
@@SuperEman500 still 16.5k for a supercar slayer is still cheap
Problem with civics. There is 7 fast civics. Now every civic driver thinks they are fast because they cut off their exhaust.
@@ihelpidiots5102 Lol dumb idea
Your vids are sick bro,keep up the good work Brad. 😎
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The 335i coupe e92 is the best option !!!!! I got the sedan but the coupe is wayyy better it takes corners like butter !!!
The people that can afford supercars really don't care that they're getting beat at the track by these cars. They're paying for the prestige and that's recognized by everyone...not just car people.
That introduction, Epic 😂😂
I love your videos keep up the good work
i just love when he says those cheap cars will need a little bit of work, when the main problem of these cars when bying them is that you'd have to work on them ALOT
Honorable mention should be mk7 golf r. Mqb platform is heavily tuneable i have 17, stage 2 430bhp 360whp that car absolutely rips
What’s done to it?
@@sebastianc.4627 APR, EI, CTS TURBO, 034 PARTS intercooler, turbo back exhsust system, throttle pipe, turbo inlet/ outlet pipes, hi flow boost hose kit, catch can kit, coil packs, dsg/ecu tunes, sway bars, adjustable end links, ohlins coilovers, track motor/trans mounts, intake, camber plates, light weight pully, probably some shit im forgetting but its a full stage 2 car not missing anything. And I have a dynograph to prove my power figures. Tuned for 91, 93 files rips tho
Would’ve definitely included the Mustang Gt w/ the 10r80 transmission. That 10 speed is no joke, then you add some bolt ons & e85 you’re already at 500whp simply N/A. Boost it & it’s nearly unbeatable.
Yeah, but then you have to drive a mustang. Yikes.
@@Nunya644 I’ve had a 6gen Camaro 2ss, Cadillac V series, & have had two Mustangs, including my current Performance pack. I have enjoyed the Mustang far more than the previous cars. Yikes.
Should also consider G8 GXP, Chevy SS
3:12, bov went flying 🤣
Dude you forgot about an Audi B8.5 S5. I have a manual version with 480HP that has same acceleration as a Gen 2 CTS V but will kill it in the corners. Payed 30k for a low mileage car in Sepang blue.
LOOK @ ALL 😍that SMOKE f____ Funny .lololo😂😂😂😂😂
It's irrelevant unless you really are after pure speed. Supercars are as such because they are no-compromise at every level. You buy them because they have hand-stitched dashboards, titanium gear linkages and carbon fibre prop shafts... Not simply because of numbers round a track.... My E46 M3 got spanked by a fantastic looking '87 Fiesta XR2 couple years back... but he's still driving a Ford.
That suped up Supra had nothing on that Chevy II/Nova. He wasn't catching that Chevy, it was gone.
Exactly the video I've been waiting for, what gets around a track quicker than Cayman GT4 but costs less than $50K, well lets see...
A C5 Z06 or a C6 Z06 or Z51/GS or really any LS3 vette & up. I have a 2003 Z06 makes 718whp on a mustang dyno (typically lower reading than dynojet) & it’s “overbuilt”….you could get to that level for $15-20k for car itself, $15-20k for cam/headers/centri blower/extra cooling/shifter/fueling/meth/tune/tires
That Jacket Ooooooooooooooops Hoody is *SCREAMING* "Do the Right thing" Jordan's #6 & IS400
b5 s4.. nuff said. price will sky rocket soon tho
Mate I love your R8 with roof box! Mega!!!
Ferrari 459. Yeah that’s my favourite Car.
The Alfa is just 1/20th of a Zonda. Not 200th 😝
Clearly math wasn't his strongest subject in school...
I drove Nurburgring over the spring and there was a pack of Alfa Romeros burning it down. 🔥🔥🔥💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
2:30 "little work" 😂
I want a C5 so bad. Theyre so slept on but they are getting snatched because of horsepower and the LS. Alfa’s are beautiful and sound phenomenal.
Fr C5 or a C6 🤤 they all over 23k now for a good maintained vette
@@troynewman3647 i know. C5’s were 10-15 for a pretty good one but they are shooting up fast. Im 23 so i cant afford insurance and a payment id have to buy it outright and that’s getting impossible
Thank you for sharing
Nice rides here wow
no love for the V10 S6? ok, more for me! :D
Our shop car is mk4 Toyota Supra, only other 95 car that still gets invited on rallies and exotic car cruises 👍🏽
Thanxz great info
Duuuude I'm ouchea in Zimbabwe the video is dope, but that hoodie though the colours are magic💯💯💯
None of these sleeper lists is complete without the 1996 Volvo 850 Turbo wagon.......just saying that because I owned one. AND I owned a Honda CRX which is another wonderful sleeper car that is so easy to mod. I believe who ever had the car before I did had done something to it (I was just 17 when I got her and knew nothing about cars) when I smoked a 300Z on Utopia Parkway in Queens. Me and my best friend had taken her cruising and got honked at - and my car was just so much easier to weve in and out of traffic. There was more "woo!!" in my car that day than a Ric Flair WWE promo. Good memories.
It’s more so about what handles the best you can add power to anything
Love my 135i same engine as the 335 in a slightly smaller package
Your R8 is no more of a super car than a GTR. Keep grinding Junior.
It's nice to want cars that beat supercars for cheap but having supercars performance means supercars cost for maintenance
Exactly what I was thinking... most if not all examples here are "cheap", but if you add cost of ownership on them... they're anything but cheap.
@@emp1985 Exactly that's the catch
It is nice to see BMW cars on lists, as for1/4 times your correct, my 2008 runs the 1/4 in 10.63, then takes me to work day in day out. It is the most fun and rewarding car I have ever owned. Yes there a little most costly to build up to this point but so worth it. Can you say 4 door sleeper.....Yes I can
It’s nowhere near as expensive to build up to this point as say b8 s4.
When did they fix the carbon sludge buildup
Issue on backside of valves? When they added port injection back in addition to DI like Ford did? I remember was common to bring in to bmw for a top end tear down & walnut blast. Other than that….yeah can be fast. My buddy had a 2009 335xi that was tuned- pretty fast w/ just a tune
@@MS-mr4zm you can get it done for about 300$ at the average shop that knows the platform
1992 honda civic si hatchback with j32a2 swap and cali approved, also a 12 sec car all stock and yes stock with those 14 in steelies hubcaps, full interior, system, no filter or exhaust system, even has power steering, and A/C..its just a California BARD approved true Sleeper ride..still have it.
No dyno tune on the N54 335i. Just MHD back end flash buddy. FYR regarding Vegemite. You are an acquired taste.
cannot believe you forgot the old mercedes sl65 amg. that thing eats hellcats for dinner if you remove the speed guvnor and lighten it up
Yeah I drove one at a dealer crazy fast sleeper smooth as silk too.
7:37 especially their sleeper wagon
The best super car killer is the 98 Eagle Talon TSI AWD or Eclipse GSX.
With a couple thousand in mods they are absolutely amazing.
Really hot takes here
I’m happy for ya u got a r8 I can’t help saying it tho I don’t like the wrap and roof mount
in the video description : Wanna do 0-60 in 2.80 seconds for less than $40,000?
me : 40,000 USD??? thats expensive!!!
Awesome sweater man
That giula is no joke. I own a performance Tesla and thought it would be easy w as it pulled along side of me. We both hammered at the same time and I could not pull on that thing. Mad respect for that Alfa, it’s a stupid fast car.
Mk7 golf should be on this list it has great tuning potential
It depends where you live ..to modify a BMW 335i in Aussie would cost you a packet...just to maintain and service it you may as well buy a supercar in the first place. Plus your reliability would then taste like vegemite.
Like anything light with tuned 1.8t is good to go.
I bought a Corvette c5 z06 in November 2021 for $15,000. It was modded and has 460whp. You cannot go faster for the money, especially just buying a rocket without doing work.
Dude that sweater is cool AF!!
Get you a 2010 to 2016 Camaro 2SS with the 6.2L LS3 and the 6sp trans. Remove anything not needed to shave weight. Swap in a higher duration cam. Slap on some long tube headers. Then have it dyno tuned.
You'll then laying down some pretty quick 0-60 and quarter mile times as well as a potential 170+mph top speed. All for a pretty cheap price and a car that can beat almost anything from red-light to red-light.
Or you can spend just a little more for a stroker kit to take the LS3 from the stock 376ci(6.2L) to 416ci(6.8L) using forged internals. Then add a moderately sized turbo or centrifugal supercharger for outrageous power.
A street beast that will skull drag any super or hyper car...for potentially less than $20k.
And I'm a Mustang guy!
Wait... That's a R8? I always thought that that's a super-cheap Bugatti Chiron lol 😂
07 Mercedes S600 V12
2008-2011 Audi S6 V10 both under 20k and pretty fast also
Lmfao @ ‘be a credit card mechanic and put in the dollars like me’ 🤣🤣🤣🤣
idel hoodie,itll go well with my lebrons👌🙋
My Silverado crushes a Ferrari 459. 😂
Maybe with a lift kit and big wheels.
That fix thing can clear the check engine light wherever u r whenever u want? It definitely doesn’t work right before getting an inspection done for registration… right???
I'm mean cool list and everything, but if you mention the GR supra, and the Alfa Romeo, for that price you can get a second hand M4 F82 in decent condition...
Cool thumbnail 😍😍😍
Man, love your car!
335i 😍🔥🔥
And no one is gonna talk about the ferrari 459 🤐
Yeah Yeah, we going to mention a Mazda race car, but totally ignore the Ariel Atom is basically a 2 seater race car itself
New to getting into cars. Just curious what the thumbnail is. Is it the bmw with a body kit? Looks pretty sick
how bout a pontiac fiero a real head turner with an LS4 swap, very light weight, cheap, customizing might cost about $10k if done by yourself.
The c5 front kinda looks like an rx7
Doesn’t matter what you buy, it depends on who’s behind the wheel!
You can have all the gear & no idea or you can just destroy people who “think” they can drive!!👌
Mitsubishi evo. (Also known as the Lambo killer) "Am I a joke to you?"
Thank you for this video, my next daily is the ariel atom 2 lmao 😂
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Personally, I’d prefer the Nomad over the Atom.