I drive a Subaru myself, and it's insane seeing all the hate it gets from Toyota and Honda fanboys. Drive a Subaru once, and you're hooked for life! They're truly amazing vehicles, VERY underrated.
I agree. Have the 2.5is for the last 1 year. Most safe car. You just cant crash it. Eyesight safety system does a great job. And it is very stable due to its low center of gravity.
@@abrahamakhtar2508 I've had a Mazda and three Hondas. Never thought I'd stray away from a Honda. I bought a 2021 Forester and now understand why people love their Subies and are loyal to them. I love my Forester.
All depends on what you want from a car. For me its the Mazda CX-5. Best looking, well built, luxurious interior, comfortable and drives like a dream. Just needs a bigger infotainment screen.
The Buick Envision 2.0T is putting down a faster 27.5s figure-8 time vs 2019 CX-5 2.5T and 2019 RDX 2.0T at 27.7 in Motor Trend testing. That continues in an Emergency Lane test by Consumer Reports that has the Envision 2.0T doing 55.5 mph while the CX-5(non-turbo) did 54 mph and the RDX 2.0T can only go 52.5 mph. For 2019 Envision 2.0T gets a new 9-speed and 295 lb-ft of torque, 316 lb-ft of torque on overboost. The twin clutch and torque vectoring AWD is something that Mazda cannot match only able to use brakes on a single on a wheel for torque vectoring. The Hiperstrut, as also seen on Honda Civic Type-R as dual axis strut, eliminates any torque steer under accleration. At a discounted $35K the Envision Prem ll offers heads up display, adaptive high beams and articulating HID, adaptive cruise control with full stopping, tri-zone climate control, sliding rear seat, 12-volt outlet, along with Buick's longer warranty than Mazda.
This is the best comparison video I have seen on TH-cam. The way things are visually lined up makes it so much easier to make a direct comparison than someone just mentioning the difference in a random order while driving (how it is typically done). Love the editing and the graphics. Subscribed.
The CX-5 is more premium than the others, a bit less trunk space but still enough for most people. The gearbox is not CVT and that I think it's a big advantage over the other cars. I bought a CX-5 a month ago and I am very happy with it, feels like I did the right choice.
Agreed. The Toyota is hideous as per usual and that screen looks like an iPad with a life proof case shoved on the dash. Overall go for anything other I’d say. Also the CVT is awful and we all know the hybrid engine is absolutely rubbish. Mazda certainly should’ve won.
@@7homas0wen This test has put me off the CX-5. If it hasn't got excellent grip, forget it. Unless I go for an all new Outback next year I might see how long it will be until we get an all new CR-V that will no doubt have the missing safety features on the current one and I suspect an all new engine option.
Worrywart I suppose it’s about how you use the car. I’ve got a fairly high apexes model for work and I’m not driving that aggressively. It’s such a nice car for regular driving. Perfect family car. It’s quite luxurious for a regular spec suv. I recently was updated to the new work car which was of course the Toyota rav 4. My hopes died down after the driving experience and interior quality. I’ve asked for the Mazda back and luckily the were more than happy to give the new car to someone else. Guess it’s just my opinion but the crv doesn’t sound like a bad choice for now.
Johnny Tampocao definitely the perfect most comfortable suv. Toyota sits too high up and interior quality is poor. Ride overall is not great. Mazda is definitely the clear winner. At least from my experience.
They must tune the suspension/steering differently on CX-5s down under, because the CX-5s up here in the states has lovely steering, well weighted and with some feedback from the road surface. Yes, the turbo engine is a brute (turn off the traction control and watch all four tires spin on launch), and there is some torque-steer when you plant the pedal, but the thing has 310 lb/ft of torque, for goodness sakes! The CX-5 will look nice in your driveway, too, being the most attractive vehicle in the group. We used to say cars without a lot of emblems, scoops, stripes and chrome were "sano" in design and the Mazda has that quality. There isn't one Mazda or CX-5 nameplate anywhere on it. Just the logo on the grill (hiding the radar sensor). If it wasn't needed for that important function, it probably wouldn''t be there either.
Sorry reply 2 years later. Mazda does tune steering and suspension differently for different markets. To be fair, Australian and American roads are equally as bad when compared to European/Japanese roads and likewise, both countries suffer from poor quality fuels. With this in mind, suspension might be fairly similar (a usual Mazda firm - which is in my opinion the goldilocks between too soft and too firm. Although most buyers will expect softer). But the real highlight getting into a Mazda (including here in Australia) is the steering. I like the well weighted nature with some feedback (exactly how you put it). Getting into the Mazda after getting out of some other test drives, I thought - wow, you can feel the steering. And yes, that means Mazda's cannot be parked with a single finger, but who would want that anyway. For the record, Mazda spent over a year of continuous testing in the US with a steering team purely for the North American steering tune. This is likely representative of other markets, but the US team was used in a lot of the US marketing.
@@craigbeatty8565 depends on how tall and how "leggy" they are I suppose. I had a guy that is 6'1" in the passenger seat and another that 6'2" right behind him and birth started they were quite comfortable.
Had a 2015 rav4 limited. Actually it was my wifes car that got dumped on me because she moved on to a luxury brand. I got bored of driving it around and the 2019 design caught my eye. Went for a test drive of the limited and was very disappointed. Except a little bit of power upgrade and interior tweaks not much has changed. Same boring steering and the engine and road noise is actually louder than my 2015 limited. Almost 40 grand car but does not even have illuminated power window buttons (only the driver window button is illuminated). Good luck fishing for the mirror adjustment button at night. Went to test drive the CX5 GTR and told them to take my money immediately. If you want your smile of the day go test drive the turbo. Puts one on my face everyday now. CVTs are out of question for me.
I drove a CRV and RAV4 Hybrid, both with CVTs. Actually, they were quite enjoyable to drive. CVTs have smooth response and as for the noise, I don't drive like a maniac.
The Buick Envision 2.0T is putting down a faster 27.5s figure-8 time vs 2019 CX-5 2.5T and 2019 RDX 2.0T at 27.7 in Motor Trend testing. That continues in an Emergency Lane test by Consumer Reports that has the Envision 2.0T doing 55.5 mph while the CX-5(non-turbo) did 54 mph and the RDX 2.0T can only go 52.5 mph. For 2019 Envision 2.0T gets a new 9-speed and 295 lb-ft of torque, 316 lb-ft of torque on overboost. The twin clutch and torque vectoring AWD is something that Mazda cannot match only able to use brakes on a single on a wheel for torque vectoring. The Hiperstrut, as also seen on Honda Civic Type-R as dual axis strut, eliminates any torque steer under accleration. At a discounted $35K the Envision Prem ll offers heads up display, adaptive high beams and articulating HID, adaptive cruise control with full stopping, tri-zone climate control, sliding rear seat, 12-volt outlet, along with Buick's longer warranty than Mazda.
@@Xyb3rTeCh "...when it comes to long-term reliability in particular, Buick has absolutely decimated their supposedly more fashionable family member. While most older Cadillacs rival old Kias when it comes to long-term quality, Buick is ranked #1 in our study when it comes to one important metric. Length of ownership. For active brands, the oldest trade-in on average in our study covering nearly 1,300,000 vehicles is not a Lexus or a Mercedes, it's a Buick. The reason is while a lot of premium brands try to pursue greatness to an audience that tends to have a more fickle and transient nature towards car ownership, Buick has been able to focus on what I would call 'fine'-ness towards a more conservative audience that simply looks for a car that can comfortably do the job. If you ask an owner of an older Buick what they think of their car, the answer you're likely to receive is someone in the realm of, "It's fine". There really isn't a lot of love for an older car that is created for conservative tastes. But for those who consider cars to be little more than a comfortable intermission between going here and there, Buick has fulfilled that reasonable expectation better than nearly everyone else...." thedrive GM vehicles do not cost a penny the first year or so. "The CX-5 went in for four scheduled services, which cost $340.57. For comparison, our 2015 CX-5 cost a total of $320.37 for three service visits, and our 2017 Honda CR-V cost $417.60 for two, not including the unscheduled battery and differential fluid change...." Motor Trend
@@Xyb3rTeCh and today Buick Envision 2.0T with torque vectoring AWD at $32-33K is a better deal than these econ boxes. The longer warranty is icing on the cake.
That's interesting, in the US the Forester Mid trims have leather and heated seats... and are MUCH cheaper. You can easily save $6K going with a Subaru here.
You can't beat the price and practicality of Subaru Forester. Plus, I think it is the most handsome among the 4. The Mazda looks sleek too but but kinda bourgeois to my taste. And talk about visibility, Subaru Forester is the clear winner. And correction to the lady, the Forester has heated driver and passenger seat - at least for the higher trims, but not ventilated seats though.
Subaru has gas and oil hungry engine. It runs fine for a few years, then head gasket leak due to open deck engine design is guaranteed and they haven't changed that stupid design yet. Not to mention poor MPG it gives. Yes it had a good AWD system but that's it.
Resale and Depreciation: Our Mazda CX-5(Edmund's) had a sticker price of $34,505 when it was new. After a year of driving, our odometer had about 17,600 miles on it. Assuming clean condition, the CX-5 had a private-party appraised value of $24,818. This is a 28% depreciation, which is worse than our long-term fleet average of 22%. Edmund's
@@normt5463 American I'm guessing? As red book and glasses guide here in Australia rate it as one of the better ones. Mazdas generally have good resale here.
@@JohnSmith-nz4bn the Mazda brand has never been a good value as it was too expensive as a economy brand and not enough cache as a luxury brand. The Mazda retention rate a couple years ago was the lowest in the industry. Motor Trend magazine figure eight test measure not only grip but accleration, braking power, along with shock dampening, sway bars, spring rates. It's the recipe that has the 2018 GMC Terrain/Equinox one full second ahead of the 2018 CX-5 in that test. You see, the Japanese cook the books in making a lightweight, small, and great handling cuv that journalist rave about and get fuel economy as a result. When the buying public review the Mazda it is loud and rough riding and a turn off with just a ride around the block. So 2018 Mazda adds to the CX-5 missing sound deadening and adds heavier acoustic glass. Now the suspension is taxed with sway bar and spring rates from the previous updates along with shocks that need revalving. Braking performance has suffered with the extra weight with longer stopping from 60 than a 2018 Terrain by over 10 feet. And if you want to compare real world economy, fuelly.com-which are owners reporting, has the new 2018 Equinox 1.5T besting the CX-5. Sorry to burst your Japanese bubble but most everyone is on the same playing field today and many have passed them up and especially on the cost to buy front thanks to dealerahips advertising on places like cars.com. It is public perception that lags because of you and the journalist want to protect their internet clicks and keep inflated resdiuals as the prices are higher to buy than non-Japanese, negating any excellent resdiuals value. The auto auctions thank you guys. This is especially the case for the Honda CR-V. Regarding pricing and value the 2018 Terrain and CX-5 are dead even today and 3 year, 36,000 miles from now. The Subaru is $2,000 less today and $2,000 less in the same time period. This all based on info gathered from cars.com. It favors the Terrain if I used 2017 values as it is an out going model and the best deal here. Though the base 2018 Terrain doesn't have dual zone climate control it does have rear seat upper vents. The Mazda does not until you go up to the Touring model. The Terrain SLE has dual zone and the CX-5 Touring has rear seat vents starting the last two years or so. Both cars are the same price on cars.com Early Mazda models do not have rear seat venting. The 2018 Honda CR-V is the most expensive at $2,000 more than comparable 2018 Equinox. The Honda still offers the old 2.4l and is $5,000 more than a 2017 Equinox 2.4l. It is just over priced at all levels. And at 3 years, 36,000 miles later the CR-V cost less than a Equinox. Which means the more expensive, new Honda has dropped more in value than the Equinox. The Terrain 1.5T receives the 9-speed transmission and has not been tested. Only the Equinox 1.5t 6-speed has been timed.
@@normt5463 duuuuuude, just highlighting the difference between Australian and US markets. Also, not a Mazda owner. Just stating facts for Australia. Not America. Again, highlighting differences.
@@JohnSmith-nz4bn our media pumps up Mazda and other Japanese brands taking then from economy car status to super car. The fact is everyone else has caught up or passed them and offer more features at a lower price.
Hi guys, well ive just received my 2020 Rav4 2wd Hybrid Cruiser, I've been driving around in it for just over a week now. I have to say, not big noting myself or the car but it's one of the best SUV cars I've ever driven. It feels robust and it is very accurate as you guys do mention, the satellite cruise control works a treat especially good on the highway, and you can even use it around town.The new shape of the new Rav4 is definitely an improvement, now men can actually drive them without feeling bad LOL. The cvt and engine noise is not bad in my mind, like in the video its mentioned the car seems to have some road noise but saying that I only hear the road noise when the car is in electric battery mode. The sensors and all round parking cameras are amazing and work really well, especially when trying to park in some tight areas, and I've saved the best till last, "Fuel Consumption" , I feel is the one to gloat about for sure but only having the car for just over a week and 560 klms so far, and still having just under half a tank a juice left. I would've loved the panoramic glass roof but afraid I had to settle for the normal sunroof. All said and done Im very impressed :-) Well done Toyota Australia.
Hi, curious if you test drove the normal petrol Rav4 to compare? I test drove a petrol one and was pretty disappointed with how it drove. I really wanted to like it! It took longer than expected to accelerate & revved super high. It was not very responsive. I want to compare it with a hybrid but not sure I'll have a chance to test drive one. Do you know if it feels much different?
the public doesn't know about the mazda cx5 i-stop system. the long term ownership of cx5 is the most expensive among the cars reviewed. a battery of cx-5 can cost upto 4x more than a typical car battery. yes cx-5 is the most refined and family friendly car, but the ownership cost is a monster.
Nice article and comparison. I have just done this exact comparison and bought one of your test vehicles. I know you have to go on advertised pricing, but shopping around and hammering a deal at each outlet saw a much different outcome in price comparison. That and the individual spoken to at each dealership. I now own a Mazda CX-5 GT 2.5 Turbo. Longest wheelbase, shortest overhangs and 19” wheels means it will eventually be the best handling car here. As empty nesters we only need comfort upfront so any of these would have done. I really wanted the Honda CR-V, but you were kind. It’s gutless and still has a droning CVT. Drove nicely and was as comfortable as the CX-5. I liked the idea of the RAV4 due to Toyota’s reputation, but the high starting price, no willingness to discuss price and an arrogant salesman turned me off. Drove the Subaru and couldn’t wait to give it back. Gutless, droney and a little wallowing over speed humps. THE VERDICT: knowing that I can still fit my 2 grand children’s rear facing car seats in the back and by adding a decent set of Pilot Sport 4 tyres I will end up with the best midsize SUV. Try fixing the short comings of the others that easily. Footnote: we loved the buying experience so much when purchasing the CX-5, I bought a CX-3 Akari for my wife. Needless to say we saved quite a bit off MSRP of the cars for buying 2.
We know - but we decided four was our number, and these were the ones we choose... this time around. Stay tuned, we might have to see how RAV4 stacks up against Tucson and Sportage soon! Cheers Matt
My wife and I have taken all these cars for a drive in the past week. Honda CRV felt dated and the build quality was below all others. Toyota RAV4 GXL Hybrid had a fantastic quiet and smooth drive train with responsive CVT and clean interior lines (except for the gawky display screen). Braking problem has a manufacturers delivery hold atm and the current supply delay is 5 months! Mazda CX-5 Maxx Sports with 2.5 non-turbo motor was only ordinary but the cabin was luxurious albeit darker than others (great if you like black everything). Subaru Forester 2.5i-Premium was our pick for features, finish and driving performance. The fuel consumption figures that are listed in the video test are a concern! Maybe we'll wait 12 months and see if Toyota can sort out the regenerative braking problem in the RAV4 and improve supply lead times.
I am a non car person and bought a Rav4 today! Could you please elaborate for me what you're talking about with the braking problem as if you're talking to a complete novice of which I am. I tried to di my research when coming to my decision, but this is the first I have heard of such problem. Thanks!
We have been tossing up between the forester and rav. Your right the forester is the features. Really struggling though with the fuel consumption, that’s what’s holding us back.
Honda Engine Oil Dilution is a non-picker. Honda's quality has been in decline for years. Subaru has experienced multiple recalls. Subaru, like Honda, has been in decline. Toyota let their reputation ride, NO LONGER provide value for your dollars. Mazda seems like the winner of this pick.
@@subazealand9158 "...70 percent of new Subaru vehicles are now the object of recalls or service campaigns within two years of being purchased, noting that the “permissible limit” should be around 10 percent." www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2019/06/report-outlines-how-subaru-is-coping-with-quality-control-issues/
No doubt the Rav4 is the winner. Just bought mine last week and love it every single time i drive it. The safest, most economical and great looking vehicle. And last but not least, we all know Toyota’s are known for their reliability🚘
We have a 2015 Rav4 XLE with only 80,000 miles on it. Our dealer maintains it so it is handled with kid gloves, the rear seal is shot and will cost close to $3000.00 to fix. :-/ This is our first Toyota so perhaps we just got a bad one.
When you look at Subaru's specs, all Foresters have heated seats except the entry-level. You don't need leather, either, the cloth seats have it as well.
In my opinion, the only downside of the Mazda CX-5 is the lower space, but I find it plenty enough space for me and I would trade in some space for a much nicer quality interior.
Probably the best look, turbo engine with automatic transmission, dynamic, good interior and GT comes with sunroof. I would go with CX5. Smaller boot space can be a decisive factor for someone.
Great review guys! So if I’m right and according to the video the Honda won the tests on ride quality and handling, best interior, the most space in the back seat and one of the biggest boots. It also had the second lowest price and lowest fuel economy versus the comparative cars which were not a hybrid (Mazda and Subaru). It did not win on engine performance (but neither did the Mazda and that was the most powerful of the bunch - so peak performance can’t be the deciding factor then). Arguably, if the CR-V handles the best then this means it has the best steering, suspension setup and chassis engineering for the power it delivers. So I think the whole package is what is most important. It did however lack two safety features the other three had. So I’m struggling to understand what made the RAV4 get across the line in first position? If it has won and it was based on Honda’s lack of engine performance and safety then why didn’t the Mazda win as it had the exact same safety features? Answer: because it didn’t have the most dynamic driving package - this belonged to the CR-V. So why wasn’t the win by the RAV4 supported by the statement if the CR-V had all the safety kit then it would have won? Also Considering resale, which CR-V has always performed very well, and given parents would be looking to upgrade as the family grows in the years to come, I think this is an important criteria which has been overlooked. Objectively, I find it hard to see how the RAV4 won.
A perhaps more critical criteria for those of us in more wintry climates is the performance of AWD. This is where the Subaru excels and tips the scales in favour of Subaru. Comparisons of AWD vehicles is deficient if the merits of the off-road and slippery road performance are not considered.
You guys can’t tell me that the drone of the CVT is not the most irritating noise you can experience when going on a drive. So the real winner is the vehicle which doesn’t have CVT.
I have a 2018 CX5 AWD, isn't so bad, but isn't that good either. If I'd known then what I know now after a year of ownership, I hadn't buy it. It's slow, the infotainment is very slow and do stuff it shouldn't do, has a lot of rattles, fuel economy isn't good, the driver's mirror sometimes doesn't fold completely, and a lot of other little things.
The Cr-v had serious engine problems with the turbo and oil problems, the seats are reportedly uncomfortably firm, the interior has a digital only spedometer and awkward looking gear changer posted like a minivan, and most seriously reviewers say the turbo lag is so bad, the car sometimes doesn't seem to move at all from a start, ie. consumer reports. Furthermore, reliability of honda has gone down as has design. And you're surprised? Give me a break. All the other cars, every single one of them, from the hyundai, rav4, forester, and mazda are superior to the crv.
@@desmondventurato_1585 what's the new rav like?? I've gotta 2010 version but looking to upgrade, gonna be hard to give up my 2010, I've got over 200ks and not giving me any problems at all,
Rav 4 the winner of that bunch mmm I hope with this new model they have fixed the problems they had with the previous model. I drive a 2017 Rav as my work car driving people to and from hospital appointments and shopping etc. We are on to our second Rav in our district due to brakes grinding and shuddering in our first one which could not be fixed completly after several trips to the mechanic, so they swapped cars over and now this one has the same problem, with only 50 to 60 thousand on the clock. these two cars are out of a fleet of mixed Toyotas and with other cars reporting similar problems within the fleet.
Toyota doesn't have Android auto or Apple carplay, that's a huge disadvantage. If you're at all interested in usage of smartphones, navigation and music in your car.
I’ve had the new Subaru Forester top model for half a year now and love it. Have gone on quite a few road trips and camping trips already and it’s perfect for those ☺️
Yep. And they don't even mention the Forester's advantage in ground clearance for anyone who wants to occasionally leave the city. Nor do they mention that the Forester has a proper full-sized spare tyre. Personally I wouldn't leave the city with a space saver or repair kit instead.
nissan xtrail lemon by ex owner.... i bought a 2012 2.4 xtrail and took it to the beach which is the most common off road environment.. it could not drive the wheels out of the sand.. just revd a little and nothing... stuck.. i checked the gear ratio of 1st gear which has an overall ratio of 10 to 1... way to high... other suv are 15 to 1 overall in 1st and can pull out of the sand...i sold this lemon within a month and bought a mitsi outlander... no problem...spins all wheels in the sand.. this is a diesel as at low revs the diesel has more torque and hp than the petrol ....the 2l version xtrail has 15 to 1 overall ratio in 1st... overall includes the diff ratio
These videos are great thank you! I’m about to buy one of these and it is helping with my decision! Thank you ☺️ I’m looking forward to test driving some myself!
Just a tech question you state that the Subaru doesn't have front and rear parking sensors, but it does have Reverse Auto Braking and front view camera? Not worth mentioning?
It does have rear parking sensors. It misses out only on the front parking sensor. It is well compensated by the front camera. It is the most safest car. Hands down. I have one for the last one year. These pple are always paid well by Toyota. So they tend to play down on Subaru despite of it having a full time power for all 4 wheels. Others will engage rear wheels only when they start slipping. This make a huge difference when you are losing control on a highway where only subaru will save you.
Why didn't you consider off-road capabilities? RAV4 Hybrid is one of the worst (because of hybrid) in this. A lot of European automotive journalists prove it and there are tons of video... Also you found that it's noise inside Toyota... and it's a winner? Weird result
None of the Aussie reviewers are consistent, the only source i trust now are chasing cars (AU) and carwow (UK). very professional and cut the crap. i used to read a lot of caradvice, and carsguide, but they both swayed towards their sponsors.
@Dulnyavka, it is very strange to hear about cabin noise isolation problem in RAV4. I tested RAV4 German Style version and I can say the isolation is quite close to what Mazda CX-5 has. Toyota uses double glass for sound insulation for Europe market. USA version uses single layer glass to get more chipper price. Maybe Australian version uses the same glass like in USA version. Toyota customizes RAV a lot for different markets. For example European version of RAV4 has more sporty suspension for all versions. But if we are talking about USA (I think like for Australia too) version then only RAV XSE has more sporty suspension.
See how stress free you feel when the CRV 1.5L has oil dillution problems and your stuck on the side of the road waiting over 2hrs for roadside assistance.
Oh I don't have any great problems on that front. You could just as well say they should have tested the non-turbo Mazda. They showed the prices of them all which, excluding the Mazda, were pretty much in the same ball-park. An interesting test. Unfortunately, on looks alone, I couldn't bring myself to buy the RAV4.
Hi guys - thanks again for a great review. Surprised you didn’t include Peugeot’s 3008 after you picked it as a winner over the CX5 in a previous head to head
@Classic AFL Matches. Funny how the only people complaining about the Subaru CVT's are the people who don't own them. Subaru CVT's are 5th generation compared to 3rd generation of other manufacturers.
CVT gearbox is a big NO, me and my surrounding friends had a very bad experience with them. Personally, whenever a car fitted with CVT I will not consider at all or totally not looking at them too.
I just traded in my 2018 crv after 8 months because I hated it. Slow, loud, plastic materials inside scratch if you look at them, and oil issues with turbo. No thanks. Plus it drives like a mini van. Of all I’ve owned it was the most boring car I’ve ever experienced. Got the new rav and it’s night and day better. Truck feeling, rugged, and just a solid machine.
I find all Honda's garbage now. I was a Honda fanboy and owned many Hondas and the last model I bought was 2012 Accord fully loaded. I think Hondas has lost its reliability image and over-all experience.
The Mazda is certainly nice but seriously let down by the small infotainment screen and lack of wireless charging. The Toyota is huge, waaay to big for the class now. I think the boot space being so large should detract points during tests. The Mazda looks a little too feminine for my liking. The Subi looks like an oversized wagon rather than an SUV. The Honda looks like it’s sticking its bottom lip out. CVT’s?? Bahhhh
The toyota hybrid has just stopped production due to hybrid break issues. Are hybrid regenerative brakes safe? I've had NY taxi drivers tell me they're not. The recall just makes me question this even more than I had? Is the Rav4 non-hybrid still the best here? Seems like it, no? Where's the Hyundai Santa Fe. At about the same price it seems you get perhaps the nicer car and a bit more size.
Regenerative brakes are quite effective and are used in conjunction with friction brakes depending on what part of the braking curve your stopping is at. It what they use to brake suburban trains (in Perth anyway). I agree that for Toyota, this is not a good look so soon after the launch of the RAV4 and it affects all of their Hybrid vehicles.
Chose the Honda. Quietest, better ride and handling. 7 year warranty and capped service at $300 per service. Not sure where they got the Toyota boot capacity as the Honda is best in class and with the seats down further extends its lead. But all in all there wasnt a lot in it.
@@baileycummings2874 Many vehicles with CVT have had problems when hitting a certain mileage and it needed to be changed which cost a lot. Most particular examples I guess would be Nissan, many Nissan owners have had it and some have made some videos about it here on youtube. I don't know the rate of the failure but I prefer a regular transmission than after what I reviewed about other vehicles that had CVT. I was shopping for an SUV and nearly got a Rogue but then after all that I went with CX-5.
@@archvile1313 that's like me saying a Hilux normal auto is crap so all autos are crap. Every manufacturer is different and every one has its own problems even transmissions aside. I think the only actual argument to not get a cvt is personal preference.
@Arch Vile, this is very unprofessional review! There is no any CVT in RAV4 as you thinking about Nissan. More over RAV4 does not have any transmission too. The transmission is implemented as a planetary gear (automatic transmission in Mazda contains the same planetary elements) which works together with electrical engine (this engine works like CVT). This is very reliable system and it allows to drive 1M km without any problems. There a lot of Toyota hybrids in USA which drive more than 600K km without any problems.
All are very good cars! Depends what do you prefer... I'm an ex owner of Honda CR-V 2.2 CDTi and present owner of CX-5 2.2 Skyactiv D manual 6speed and I'm very satisfied...of course there are always some things that could be better, and mazda upgrades them non-stop... Honda and Toyota are more family and practical cars, and mazda more sporty and stylish, Subaru is similar to all of them but definitely the best 4x4.
@@JohnSmith-nz4bn Yes , Europe version. My mazda is 2.2. D 150hp, manual 6speed, fwd, Attraction trim level - led lights, all parking sensors, heated f seats+steering wheel+windshield wipers etc, but no camera, 19wheels... Consumption average is 6.2 L/ 100km
You just put a base model Subaru against 3 mid level competitors and complained it was missing features even though it was $3000 cheaper? That seems like a glaring oversight in a real review. It's the only one with STANDARD AWD.
I guess car reviewing guys make money by doing such stuff, if they lie about the cars, they might get sued. So they just use some tricks to promote some vehicle or highlight some lacking of features of some other cars. Until the car companies pay them.
I would not touch the Honda CR-V, small turbo engine and they have had a lot of problems with oil dilution , so would avoid it. The rav4 is just too noisy and does not drive as well. the Forester is a pretty reliable car, but for me the CX-5 just out performs the rest and I thought it handled the road very well.
I recently bought Subaru Forester. It is so awesome to drive. I really love it.
I drive a Subaru myself, and it's insane seeing all the hate it gets from Toyota and Honda fanboys. Drive a Subaru once, and you're hooked for life! They're truly amazing vehicles, VERY underrated.
How about the noise? Are the car quiet enough in highway? I really thinking about the forester and XV
@@abrahamakhtar2508 does the boot fits three full size checkin bags? Your feedback on maintenance pls?
I agree. Have the 2.5is for the last 1 year. Most safe car. You just cant crash it. Eyesight safety system does a great job. And it is very stable due to its low center of gravity.
@@abrahamakhtar2508 I've had a Mazda and three Hondas. Never thought I'd stray away from a Honda. I bought a 2021 Forester and now understand why people love their Subies and are loyal to them. I love my Forester.
All depends on what you want from a car. For me its the Mazda CX-5. Best looking, well built, luxurious interior, comfortable and drives like a dream. Just needs a bigger infotainment screen.
Most stylish and quickest by far, but it is also bit small and the thirstiest.
The Buick Envision 2.0T is putting down a faster 27.5s figure-8 time vs 2019 CX-5 2.5T and 2019 RDX 2.0T at 27.7 in Motor Trend testing. That continues in an Emergency Lane test by Consumer Reports that has the Envision 2.0T doing 55.5 mph while the CX-5(non-turbo) did 54 mph and the RDX 2.0T can only go 52.5 mph.
For 2019 Envision 2.0T gets a new 9-speed and 295 lb-ft of torque, 316 lb-ft of torque on overboost. The twin clutch and torque vectoring AWD is something that Mazda cannot match only able to use brakes on a single on a wheel for torque vectoring. The Hiperstrut, as also seen on Honda Civic Type-R as dual axis strut, eliminates any torque steer under accleration. At a discounted $35K the Envision Prem ll offers heads up display, adaptive high beams and articulating HID, adaptive cruise control with full stopping, tri-zone climate control, sliding rear seat, 12-volt outlet, along with Buick's longer warranty than Mazda.
This is the best comparison video I have seen on TH-cam. The way things are visually lined up makes it so much easier to make a direct comparison than someone just mentioning the difference in a random order while driving (how it is typically done). Love the editing and the graphics. Subscribed.
The CX-5 is more premium than the others, a bit less trunk space but still enough for most people. The gearbox is not CVT and that I think it's a big advantage over the other cars. I bought a CX-5 a month ago and I am very happy with it, feels like I did the right choice.
Agreed. The Toyota is hideous as per usual and that screen looks like an iPad with a life proof case shoved on the dash. Overall go for anything other I’d say. Also the CVT is awful and we all know the hybrid engine is absolutely rubbish. Mazda certainly should’ve won.
@@7homas0wen This test has put me off the CX-5. If it hasn't got excellent grip, forget it. Unless I go for an all new Outback next year I might see how long it will be until we get an all new CR-V that will no doubt have the missing safety features on the current one and I suspect an all new engine option.
Worrywart I suppose it’s about how you use the car. I’ve got a fairly high apexes model for work and I’m not driving that aggressively. It’s such a nice car for regular driving. Perfect family car. It’s quite luxurious for a regular spec suv. I recently was updated to the new work car which was of course the Toyota rav 4. My hopes died down after the driving experience and interior quality. I’ve asked for the Mazda back and luckily the were more than happy to give the new car to someone else. Guess it’s just my opinion but the crv doesn’t sound like a bad choice for now.
Yes, you made the right choice because CX-5 is the best compact SUV among this group, it has the best interior and is fun to drive plus no CVT.
Johnny Tampocao definitely the perfect most comfortable suv. Toyota sits too high up and interior quality is poor. Ride overall is not great. Mazda is definitely the clear winner. At least from my experience.
I watched this nervously as I am on my way to purchase the Rav 4. Wanted to do some very last minute comparisons for the millionth time! Thanks guys!
Let me how did you go. I did a test drive last week, on a beach road 80kmph didnt hear much cabin noice.
They must tune the suspension/steering differently on CX-5s down under, because the CX-5s up here in the states has lovely steering, well weighted and with some feedback from the road surface. Yes, the turbo engine is a brute (turn off the traction control and watch all four tires spin on launch), and there is some torque-steer when you plant the pedal, but the thing has 310 lb/ft of torque, for goodness sakes! The CX-5 will look nice in your driveway, too, being the most attractive vehicle in the group. We used to say cars without a lot of emblems, scoops, stripes and chrome were "sano" in design and the Mazda has that quality. There isn't one Mazda or CX-5 nameplate anywhere on it. Just the logo on the grill (hiding the radar sensor). If it wasn't needed for that important function, it probably wouldn''t be there either.
Sorry reply 2 years later. Mazda does tune steering and suspension differently for different markets. To be fair, Australian and American roads are equally as bad when compared to European/Japanese roads and likewise, both countries suffer from poor quality fuels.
With this in mind, suspension might be fairly similar (a usual Mazda firm - which is in my opinion the goldilocks between too soft and too firm. Although most buyers will expect softer).
But the real highlight getting into a Mazda (including here in Australia) is the steering. I like the well weighted nature with some feedback (exactly how you put it). Getting into the Mazda after getting out of some other test drives, I thought - wow, you can feel the steering. And yes, that means Mazda's cannot be parked with a single finger, but who would want that anyway.
For the record, Mazda spent over a year of continuous testing in the US with a steering team purely for the North American steering tune. This is likely representative of other markets, but the US team was used in a lot of the US marketing.
I recently compared all four and needless to say, I agreed with you and I'm now the proud owner of a top spec Hybrid RAV4
Nick Muggli a shame there’s inadequate leg room for taller people.
@@craigbeatty8565 depends on how tall and how "leggy" they are I suppose. I had a guy that is 6'1" in the passenger seat and another that 6'2" right behind him and birth started they were quite comfortable.
Had a 2015 rav4 limited. Actually it was my wifes car that got dumped on me because she moved on to a luxury brand. I got bored of driving it around and the 2019 design caught my eye. Went for a test drive of the limited and was very disappointed. Except a little bit of power upgrade and interior tweaks not much has changed. Same boring steering and the engine and road noise is actually louder than my 2015 limited. Almost 40 grand car but does not even have illuminated power window buttons (only the driver window button is illuminated). Good luck fishing for the mirror adjustment button at night. Went to test drive the CX5 GTR and told them to take my money immediately. If you want your smile of the day go test drive the turbo. Puts one on my face everyday now. CVTs are out of question for me.
Mazda for motor, dynamic and no cvt
Most people won’t notice what gearbox they’re driving, these are for the masses. I wouldn’t buy one
I drove a CRV and RAV4 Hybrid, both with CVTs. Actually, they were quite enjoyable to drive. CVTs have smooth response and as for the noise, I don't drive like a maniac.
The Buick Envision 2.0T is putting down a faster 27.5s figure-8 time vs 2019 CX-5 2.5T and 2019 RDX 2.0T at 27.7 in Motor Trend testing. That continues in an Emergency Lane test by Consumer Reports that has the Envision 2.0T doing 55.5 mph while the CX-5(non-turbo) did 54 mph and the RDX 2.0T can only go 52.5 mph.
For 2019 Envision 2.0T gets a new 9-speed and 295 lb-ft of torque, 316 lb-ft of torque on overboost. The twin clutch and torque vectoring AWD is something that Mazda cannot match only able to use brakes on a single on a wheel for torque vectoring. The Hiperstrut, as also seen on Honda Civic Type-R as dual axis strut, eliminates any torque steer under accleration. At a discounted $35K the Envision Prem ll offers heads up display, adaptive high beams and articulating HID, adaptive cruise control with full stopping, tri-zone climate control, sliding rear seat, 12-volt outlet, along with Buick's longer warranty than Mazda.
@@Xyb3rTeCh
"...when it comes to long-term reliability in particular, Buick has absolutely decimated their supposedly more fashionable family member. While most older Cadillacs rival old Kias when it comes to long-term quality, Buick is ranked #1 in our study when it comes to one important metric.
Length of ownership. For active brands, the oldest trade-in on average in our study covering nearly 1,300,000 vehicles is not a Lexus or a Mercedes, it's a Buick. The reason is while a lot of premium brands try to pursue greatness to an audience that tends to have a more fickle and transient nature towards car ownership, Buick has been able to focus on what I would call 'fine'-ness towards a more conservative audience that simply looks for a car that can comfortably do the job.
If you ask an owner of an older Buick what they think of their car, the answer you're likely to receive is someone in the realm of, "It's fine". There really isn't a lot of love for an older car that is created for conservative tastes. But for those who consider cars to be little more than a comfortable intermission between going here and there, Buick has fulfilled that reasonable expectation better than nearly everyone else...." thedrive
GM vehicles do not cost a penny the first year or so.
"The CX-5 went in for four scheduled services, which cost $340.57. For comparison, our 2015 CX-5 cost a total of $320.37 for three service visits, and our 2017 Honda CR-V cost $417.60 for two, not including the unscheduled battery and differential fluid change...." Motor Trend
@@Xyb3rTeCh and today Buick Envision 2.0T with torque vectoring AWD at $32-33K is a better deal than these econ boxes. The longer warranty is icing on the cake.
What an excellently written and entertaining review. Good chemistry between the presenters.
Thank you! Me and Nedahl will certainly aim to do more of these.
Cheers
Matt
YES all those specs graphics above the cars, clear, easy and very clean😍
Thanks! We think it helps, so we'll keep doing it!
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Matt
That's interesting, in the US the Forester Mid trims have leather and heated seats... and are MUCH cheaper. You can easily save $6K going with a Subaru here.
You can't beat the price and practicality of Subaru Forester. Plus, I think it is the most handsome among the 4. The Mazda looks sleek too but but kinda bourgeois to my taste. And talk about visibility, Subaru Forester is the clear winner. And correction to the lady, the Forester has heated driver and passenger seat - at least for the higher trims, but not ventilated seats though.
I woipd probably still choose the Subaru, I reckon it's the best all rounder
It is a great allrounder. But it's a better value buy lower in the model range. :)
Cheers
Matt
@@carsguide lol, appreciate it
@@Xyb3rTeCh Yeah it would, good point
Subaru has gas and oil hungry engine. It runs fine for a few years, then head gasket leak due to open deck engine design is guaranteed and they haven't changed that stupid design yet. Not to mention poor MPG it gives. Yes it had a good AWD system but that's it.
The Jatco CVT is unreliable and expensive to replace.
You guys just convinced me to buy the Mazda cx5.
Resale and Depreciation:
Our Mazda CX-5(Edmund's) had a sticker price of $34,505 when it was new. After a year of driving, our odometer had about 17,600 miles on it. Assuming clean condition, the CX-5 had a private-party appraised value of $24,818.
This is a 28% depreciation, which is worse than our long-term fleet average of 22%. Edmund's
@@normt5463 American I'm guessing? As red book and glasses guide here in Australia rate it as one of the better ones. Mazdas generally have good resale here.
@@JohnSmith-nz4bn the Mazda brand has never been a good value as it was too expensive as a economy brand and not enough cache as a luxury brand. The Mazda retention rate a couple years ago was the lowest in the industry.
Motor Trend magazine figure eight test measure not only grip but accleration, braking power, along with shock dampening, sway bars, spring rates. It's the recipe that has the 2018 GMC Terrain/Equinox one full second ahead of the 2018 CX-5 in that test. You see, the Japanese cook the books in making a lightweight, small, and great handling cuv that journalist rave about and get fuel economy as a result. When the buying public review the Mazda it is loud and rough riding and a turn off with just a ride around the block. So 2018 Mazda adds to the CX-5 missing sound deadening and adds heavier acoustic glass. Now the suspension is taxed with sway bar and spring rates from the previous updates along with shocks that need revalving.
Braking performance has suffered with the extra weight with longer stopping from 60 than a 2018 Terrain by over 10 feet. And if you want to compare real world economy, fuelly.com-which are owners reporting, has the new 2018 Equinox 1.5T besting the CX-5. Sorry to burst your Japanese bubble but most everyone is on the same playing field today and many have passed them up and especially on the cost to buy front thanks to dealerahips advertising on places like cars.com. It is public perception that lags because of you and the journalist want to protect their internet clicks and keep inflated resdiuals as the prices are higher to buy than non-Japanese, negating any excellent resdiuals value. The auto auctions thank you guys. This is especially the case for the Honda CR-V.
Regarding pricing and value the 2018 Terrain and CX-5 are dead even today and 3 year, 36,000 miles from now. The Subaru is $2,000 less today and $2,000 less in the same time period. This all based on info gathered from cars.com. It favors the Terrain if I used 2017 values as it is an out going model and the best deal here.
Though the base 2018 Terrain doesn't have dual zone climate control it does have rear seat upper vents. The Mazda does not until you go up to the Touring model. The Terrain SLE has dual zone and the CX-5 Touring has rear seat vents starting the last two years or so. Both cars are the same price on cars.com Early Mazda models do not have rear seat venting.
The 2018 Honda CR-V is the most expensive at $2,000 more than comparable 2018 Equinox. The Honda still offers the old 2.4l and is $5,000 more than a 2017 Equinox 2.4l. It is just over priced at all levels. And at 3 years, 36,000 miles later the CR-V cost less than a Equinox. Which means the more expensive, new Honda has dropped more in value than the Equinox.
The Terrain 1.5T receives the 9-speed transmission and has not been tested. Only the Equinox 1.5t 6-speed has been timed.
@@normt5463 duuuuuude, just highlighting the difference between Australian and US markets.
Also, not a Mazda owner. Just stating facts for Australia. Not America. Again, highlighting differences.
@@JohnSmith-nz4bn our media pumps up Mazda and other Japanese brands taking then from economy car status to super car. The fact is everyone else has caught up or passed them and offer more features at a lower price.
Hi guys, well ive just received my 2020 Rav4 2wd Hybrid Cruiser, I've been driving around in it for just over a week now. I have to say, not big noting myself or the car but it's one of the best SUV cars I've ever driven. It feels robust and it is very accurate as you guys do mention, the satellite cruise control works a treat especially good on the highway, and you can even use it around town.The new shape of the new Rav4 is definitely an improvement, now men can actually drive them without feeling bad LOL. The cvt and engine noise is not bad in my mind, like in the video its mentioned the car seems to have some road noise but saying that I only hear the road noise when the car is in electric battery mode. The sensors and all round parking cameras are amazing and work really well, especially when trying to park in some tight areas, and I've saved the best till last, "Fuel Consumption" , I feel is the one to gloat about for sure but only having the car for just over a week and 560 klms so far, and still having just under half a tank a juice left. I would've loved the panoramic glass roof but afraid I had to settle for the normal sunroof. All said and done Im very impressed :-) Well done Toyota Australia.
Hi, curious if you test drove the normal petrol Rav4 to compare? I test drove a petrol one and was pretty disappointed with how it drove. I really wanted to like it! It took longer than expected to accelerate & revved super high. It was not very responsive. I want to compare it with a hybrid but not sure I'll have a chance to test drive one. Do you know if it feels much different?
After seeing the reviews: maybe rav4, maybe mazda.... After test driving: Definitely the Subaru. Definitely the best driving car of the 3
I’d have to agree with the testers, if driven all and the CR-V drives the best. Not necessarily the best overall but easily the best driving.
Subaru has the best AEB breaking and the rav 4 has the worst AEB breaking and should not have won
the public doesn't know about the mazda cx5 i-stop system. the long term ownership of cx5 is the most expensive among the cars reviewed. a battery of cx-5 can cost upto 4x more than a typical car battery. yes cx-5 is the most refined and family friendly car, but the ownership cost is a monster.
I'd go for the Subaru, by a mile and a half.
Dat CVT kills it for me. :/
Fuel is everything so Rav is the winner for me.
But then you have to fork out 10+k for new batteries after like 10-20 years...
Maybe I missed it, but the only category the RAV4 won outright was efficiency...and somehow it is your winner? Interesting
Captain Jack though it only won that category, it placed high enough in each other category to claim the overall win.
He said the winner was the Honda I believe.
He said RAV4 is the winner
I check out the dealers' price for the comparative RAV4 and CRV. RAV4 is at least 15-20% more expensive, guess which I would buy?
Have a RAV4 exactly as the one reviewed since November. 2000k on the clock. Fuel consumption since new is still 5.9l/100 Beautiful car
Fred59fc how about the noise? Are they quiet enough in highway?
I choose the Mazda cx5
Why
Forester or CX5 for me. elegance. classy, engine, and good value
Charles Jordan Aslarona the did miss quite a bit in terms on the tech and safety detail
Mazda 🙂
Nice article and comparison. I have just done this exact comparison and bought one of your test vehicles. I know you have to go on advertised pricing, but shopping around and hammering a deal at each outlet saw a much different outcome in price comparison. That and the individual spoken to at each dealership. I now own a Mazda CX-5 GT 2.5 Turbo. Longest wheelbase, shortest overhangs and 19” wheels means it will eventually be the best handling car here. As empty nesters we only need comfort upfront so any of these would have done. I really wanted the Honda CR-V, but you were kind. It’s gutless and still has a droning CVT. Drove nicely and was as comfortable as the CX-5. I liked the idea of the RAV4 due to Toyota’s reputation, but the high starting price, no willingness to discuss price and an arrogant salesman turned me off. Drove the Subaru and couldn’t wait to give it back. Gutless, droney and a little wallowing over speed humps. THE VERDICT: knowing that I can still fit my 2 grand children’s rear facing car seats in the back and by adding a decent set of Pilot Sport 4 tyres I will end up with the best midsize SUV. Try fixing the short comings of the others that easily. Footnote: we loved the buying experience so much when purchasing the CX-5, I bought a CX-3 Akari for my wife. Needless to say we saved quite a bit off MSRP of the cars for buying 2.
Thanks for the comment. Hope you love your CX-5!
Cheers
CarsGuide I do. 4 days of ownership and there is so much I’m still learning. Around town and a quick Cruise up the M1 and it is smooth and sweet
Would have been nice up against Hyundai/Kia Tucson or Sportage as these vehicles are favourite as well in this sector!
Wrong. We just didn't include them this time around.
Thanks
Matt
We know - but we decided four was our number, and these were the ones we choose... this time around. Stay tuned, we might have to see how RAV4 stacks up against Tucson and Sportage soon!
Cheers
Matt
Korean cars do not compete against Japanese.
East Coast yes they do
@H Maccas Agreed, Silly cars.
My wife and I have taken all these cars for a drive in the past week. Honda CRV felt dated and the build quality was below all others. Toyota RAV4 GXL Hybrid had a fantastic quiet and smooth drive train with responsive CVT and clean interior lines (except for the gawky display screen). Braking problem has a manufacturers delivery hold atm and the current supply delay is 5 months! Mazda CX-5 Maxx Sports with 2.5 non-turbo motor was only ordinary but the cabin was luxurious albeit darker than others (great if you like black everything). Subaru Forester 2.5i-Premium was our pick for features, finish and driving performance. The fuel consumption figures that are listed in the video test are a concern! Maybe we'll wait 12 months and see if Toyota can sort out the regenerative braking problem in the RAV4 and improve supply lead times.
Great feedback, and interesting decision! The lower grade Forester models make more sense than the top spec, so good choice!
Cheers
Matt
I am a non car person and bought a Rav4 today! Could you please elaborate for me what you're talking about with the braking problem as if you're talking to a complete novice of which I am. I tried to di my research when coming to my decision, but this is the first I have heard of such problem. Thanks!
We have been tossing up between the forester and rav. Your right the forester is the features. Really struggling though with the fuel consumption, that’s what’s holding us back.
Honda Engine Oil Dilution is a non-picker. Honda's quality has been in decline for years.
Subaru has experienced multiple recalls. Subaru, like Honda, has been in decline.
Toyota let their reputation ride, NO LONGER provide value for your dollars.
Mazda seems like the winner of this pick.
Honda's problem only affects USA and Canadian market. Pretty much same with Subaru (if you are talking about the CVT issues in the US)
@@subazealand9158 no Subaru CVT outside of the U.S.?
China recalled all Honda 1.5t and only TSB for everybody else. Though they extended warranty on U S. 1.5t.
@@normt5463 not the amount of problems that Subaru CVT has in the US.
@@subazealand9158
"...70 percent of new Subaru vehicles are now the object of recalls or service campaigns within two years of being purchased, noting that the “permissible limit” should be around 10 percent."
www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2019/06/report-outlines-how-subaru-is-coping-with-quality-control-issues/
No doubt the Rav4 is the winner. Just bought mine last week and love it every single time i drive it. The safest, most economical and great looking vehicle. And last but not least, we all know Toyota’s are known for their reliability🚘
We have a 2015 Rav4 XLE with only 80,000 miles on it. Our dealer maintains it so it is handled with kid gloves, the rear seal is shot and will cost close to $3000.00 to fix. :-/ This is our first Toyota so perhaps we just got a bad one.
The deal breaker is the Toyota's cheap running costs and legendary reliability, just ask ISIS
When you look at Subaru's specs, all Foresters have heated seats except the entry-level. You don't need leather, either, the cloth seats have it as well.
In my opinion, the only downside of the Mazda CX-5 is the lower space, but I find it plenty enough space for me and I would trade in some space for a much nicer quality interior.
2019 Subaru Forester was my choice. Cheapest Insurance rates.
insurance rates LOL people still believe that myth
Transmission issues.
How you presented yours findings is the single best content for a comparison I’ve ever seen. Thank you for doing that!
All great choices. Grab the one you like. I just ordered a 2022 Subaru Forester. Lesssss go!
Probably the best look, turbo engine with automatic transmission, dynamic, good interior and GT comes with sunroof. I would go with CX5. Smaller boot space can be a decisive factor for someone.
Such an informative and detailed review. Love the graphics and layouts that makes comparing the 4 so easy!
What a great review! Thanks guys. The exact vehicles we are currently deciding between. Keep up the good work! 👍 (oh and the graphics 👌)
i choose Subaru Forester..
Great review guys! So if I’m right and according to the video the Honda won the tests on ride quality and handling, best interior, the most space in the back seat and one of the biggest boots. It also had the second lowest price and lowest fuel economy versus the comparative cars which were not a hybrid (Mazda and Subaru).
It did not win on engine performance (but neither did the Mazda and that was the most powerful of the bunch - so peak performance can’t be the deciding factor then). Arguably, if the CR-V handles the best then this means it has the best steering, suspension setup and chassis engineering for the power it delivers. So I think the whole package is what is most important. It did however lack two safety features the other three had.
So I’m struggling to understand what made the RAV4 get across the line in first position?
If it has won and it was based on Honda’s lack of engine performance and safety then why didn’t the Mazda win as it had the exact same safety features? Answer: because it didn’t have the most dynamic driving package - this belonged to the CR-V. So why wasn’t the win by the RAV4 supported by the statement if the CR-V had all the safety kit then it would have won?
Also Considering resale, which CR-V has always performed very well, and given parents would be looking to upgrade as the family grows in the years to come, I think this is an important criteria which has been overlooked.
Objectively, I find it hard to see how the RAV4 won.
100% agree with you.
Also they did not use the top spec CR-V as the AWD Touring variant does come with blind spot monitoring and rear traffic camera.
A perhaps more critical criteria for those of us in more wintry climates is the performance of AWD. This is where the Subaru excels and tips the scales in favour of Subaru. Comparisons of AWD vehicles is deficient if the merits of the off-road and slippery road performance are not considered.
Black on Black Forester Sport here. Love it.
You guys can’t tell me that the drone of the CVT is not the most irritating noise you can experience when going on a drive. So the real winner is the vehicle which doesn’t have CVT.
People need to get over the whole 'CVTs are noisy' thing. Yes, they are. But on fit-for-purpose, they're terrific.
Cheers
Matt
If you compare CVT sales to comments about how CVT this CVT that you'll be at about a 1000000:1 ratio lol.
@@JrVtec Well done.
@@carsguide When most CVTs can make it to well past 300k km without repair, I will consider one. Until then, not likely.
Gary Allman, just check out the majority of Taxis (which are Toyota Camry hybrid CVT's), reliability statistics, you may be surprised.
Hybrid is the real winner. Its such a standout in the class. Who can say no to the performance of a turbo but fuel consumption of a hatchback
C.X-5 the winner. It’s that good, classy, well engineered.
I have a 2018 CX5 AWD, isn't so bad, but isn't that good either. If I'd known then what I know now after a year of ownership, I hadn't buy it. It's slow, the infotainment is very slow and do stuff it shouldn't do, has a lot of rattles, fuel economy isn't good, the driver's mirror sometimes doesn't fold completely, and a lot of other little things.
David L. I have a 2018 as well and have had none of your experiences. Complete joy to drive and own... and so much quieter than the CR-V.
It’s too small. It could barley hold any cargo.
@@JJustinXu its a midget car
cx5 still stunning than the 3 .. and hopefully it will be my 1st car on 2021 🙏🏻
FYI: Except for the base trim, all trim levels of the 2019 Forester have heated power seats.
Yes, in the US version.
Based on this review I was surprised to not see the Honda CR-V be the overall winner.
MNAndrew 1971 crv got issue with the gasoline dilution an
and it evaporate when it is not driven. Honda recall over 100k crv
There was a brand new 2019 CRV in the Philippines after one month of used it got stalled on the highway, lemon car.
The Cr-v had serious engine problems with the turbo and oil problems, the seats are reportedly uncomfortably firm, the interior has a digital only spedometer and awkward looking gear changer posted like a minivan, and most seriously reviewers say the turbo lag is so bad, the car sometimes doesn't seem to move at all from a start, ie. consumer reports. Furthermore, reliability of honda has gone down as has design. And you're surprised? Give me a break. All the other cars, every single one of them, from the hyundai, rav4, forester, and mazda are superior to the crv.
Full size spare in the Forester.
in this competition,the Toyota rav4 is certainly the best choice.
Definitely not.
It definitely is just wish the V6!
@@7homas0wen the new rav makes the cx5 like a little tin can little bitch hahhahaa
@@desmondventurato_1585 what's the new rav like?? I've gotta 2010 version but looking to upgrade, gonna be hard to give up my 2010, I've got over 200ks and not giving me any problems at all,
Mazda CX five I like the best😄
Rav 4 the winner of that bunch mmm I hope with this new model they have fixed the problems they had with the previous model. I drive a 2017 Rav as my work car driving people to and from hospital appointments and shopping etc. We are on to our second Rav in our district due to brakes grinding and shuddering in our first one which could not be fixed completly after several trips to the mechanic, so they swapped cars over and now this one has the same problem, with only 50 to 60 thousand on the clock. these two cars are out of a fleet of mixed Toyotas and with other cars reporting similar problems within the fleet.
Toyota doesn't have Android auto or Apple carplay, that's a huge disadvantage. If you're at all interested in usage of smartphones, navigation and music in your car.
Xypleth I’m pretty sure that soon you can take it back into the dealer who will upgrade to ACP and AA at no cost. Cheers
CR-V torque is 240Nm, btw. (Civic 1.5T is 220Nm.)
At 8:21 she said the Rav4 is the narrowest of the bunch.
From watching other videos, I thought it was one of the widest in it's class.
Toyota for me! Really like this new video style, clear & concise. Very good!
Thanks for the feedback - we're glad you like it!
Matt
I got the 2021 Honda CR-V EX- L and I'm very happy with it.
I’ve had the new Subaru Forester top model for half a year now and love it. Have gone on quite a few road trips and camping trips already and it’s perfect for those ☺️
Yep. And they don't even mention the Forester's advantage in ground clearance for anyone who wants to occasionally leave the city.
Nor do they mention that the Forester has a proper full-sized spare tyre. Personally I wouldn't leave the city with a space saver or repair kit instead.
nissan xtrail lemon by ex owner.... i bought a 2012 2.4 xtrail and took
it to the beach which is the most common off road environment.. it could
not drive the wheels out of the sand.. just revd a little and
nothing... stuck.. i checked the gear ratio of 1st gear which has an
overall ratio of 10 to 1... way to high... other suv are 15 to 1 overall
in 1st and can pull out of the sand...i sold this lemon within a month
and bought a mitsi outlander... no problem...spins all wheels in the
sand.. this is a diesel as at low revs the diesel has more torque and
hp than the petrol ....the 2l version xtrail has 15 to 1 overall ratio
in 1st... overall includes the diff ratio
The comfortablerunabout-vehicle is actually the full name that Honda gave the cr-v
CR-V is both spacious and comfortable. Pity the tiny 1.5 L turbo must work so much harder than the 2.0 and 2.5's.
Well Honda have beefed up most of the parts so I wouldn’t worry unless you’re going to keep it for more than 10 or so!
Years
Beautiful,smooth,comfortable car...but trust me, that engine design is problematic.
These videos are great thank you! I’m about to buy one of these and it is helping with my decision! Thank you ☺️ I’m looking forward to test driving some myself!
Get the Forester if you can afford paying a little more for gas compared to a RAV4!
Great review guys, been waiting for this comparison review.. in the popular SUV category class !
Thank you!
Toyota Fail - th-cam.com/video/VmvAwjE2gg4/w-d-xo.html
I only watched it to hear her mention her tall husband which she didn’t so I’m disappointed
previous video's she has said 6ft 3
Forester for me. 👍
Exactly! Subaru hands down.
think Honda should change the side mirrors to what toyota did to the rav 4. it makes them more appealing and younger
I would choose Subaru forester
Just a tech question you state that the Subaru doesn't have front and rear parking sensors, but it does have Reverse Auto Braking and front view camera? Not worth mentioning?
My Subaru Forester comes with front camera and rear camera + senser. Australia model.
It does have rear parking sensors. It misses out only on the front parking sensor. It is well compensated by the front camera. It is the most safest car. Hands down. I have one for the last one year. These pple are always paid well by Toyota. So they tend to play down on Subaru despite of it having a full time power for all 4 wheels. Others will engage rear wheels only when they start slipping. This make a huge difference when you are losing control on a highway where only subaru will save you.
Hybrid model vs gas model? Not fair
Hybrid must vs hybrid
Gas model vs gas model hello
Why didn't you consider off-road capabilities? RAV4 Hybrid is one of the worst (because of hybrid) in this. A lot of European automotive journalists prove it and there are tons of video... Also you found that it's noise inside Toyota... and it's a winner? Weird result
We drove them how people who buy them will drive them. Lots of urban driving.
We will look to test the hybrid AWD system soon.
Cheers
Matt
None of the Aussie reviewers are consistent, the only source i trust now are chasing cars (AU) and carwow (UK). very professional and cut the crap. i used to read a lot of caradvice, and carsguide, but they both swayed towards their sponsors.
@@stevenlee7195 We aren't swayed towards any sponsor, mate. You clearly still watched this, since you're commenting on it.
Matt
@@carsguide Maybe it's a good reason to title your video "[models] how good they are for urban driving"? :)
@Dulnyavka, it is very strange to hear about cabin noise isolation problem in RAV4. I tested RAV4 German Style version and I can say the isolation is quite close to what Mazda CX-5 has. Toyota uses double glass for sound insulation for Europe market. USA version uses single layer glass to get more chipper price. Maybe Australian version uses the same glass like in USA version. Toyota customizes RAV a lot for different markets. For example European version of RAV4 has more sporty suspension for all versions. But if we are talking about USA (I think like for Australia too) version then only RAV XSE has more sporty suspension.
Subaru FORESTER XT 2.0i....
Strangely enjoyed the cvt in CRV, so stress free to drive..not keen on hybrid
douglas yong, Toyota's have been reliably, and successfully running with CVT and hybrid Taxis for ages, with no significant problems.
See how stress free you feel when the CRV 1.5L has oil dillution problems and your stuck on the side of the road waiting over 2hrs for roadside assistance.
It wasn’t a fair comparison including a hybrid in there. Apples were compared with oranges.
Oh I don't have any great problems on that front. You could just as well say they should have tested the non-turbo Mazda. They showed the prices of them all which, excluding the Mazda, were pretty much in the same ball-park. An interesting test. Unfortunately, on looks alone, I couldn't bring myself to buy the RAV4.
For me it would have to be the comfortablerunabout-vehicle or cr-v for short
I like that name!
Matt
Yes i love mycrv
We have a SZI Ford territory titanium RWD
Nothing wrong wit RAV4 except the interior design. Just look at the infotainment design. It sucks, specially when u look it at the side.
Tan Derrick, the infotainment screen is however in the line of sight
@@aussiedeplorable8670 yes, u r right. But the ugly design i just cant accept...lol
Hi guys - thanks again for a great review. Surprised you didn’t include Peugeot’s 3008 after you picked it as a winner over the CX5 in a previous head to head
Forester hybrid coming out soon so will be the winner soon
Wow Subaru Forester is so underrated
Agree. It doesn't mention the high tech feature, such as facial recognition, and other safety features.
Oh...also 2 adjustable back positions for rear seat
Looks outdated, is slow and crappy transmission.
@Classic AFL Matches. Funny how the only people complaining about the Subaru CVT's are the people who don't own them. Subaru CVT's are 5th generation compared to 3rd generation of other manufacturers.
CVT gearbox is a big NO, me and my surrounding friends had a very bad experience with them. Personally, whenever a car fitted with CVT I will not consider at all or totally not looking at them too.
Mazda CX5 Wins
I just traded in my 2018 crv after 8 months because I hated it. Slow, loud, plastic materials inside scratch if you look at them, and oil issues with turbo. No thanks. Plus it drives like a mini van. Of all I’ve owned it was the most boring car I’ve ever experienced.
Got the new rav and it’s night and day better. Truck feeling, rugged, and just a solid machine.
Cx5 💪
Supreme leader, who are you planning to carry on that big car?
Mrs Kim Jong-un, I fully agree with you
I thought you would prefer a Pyeonghwa!
Cxshit
Of course the most best selling SUV of all the time RAV4
I find all Honda's garbage now. I was a Honda fanboy and owned many Hondas and the last model I bought was 2012 Accord fully loaded. I think Hondas has lost its reliability image and over-all experience.
Yes quality went down design is garbage and interior boring quite unlike Hondas of before
I got the 2019 Toyota Rav4. It is definitely the best of all.
The Mazda is certainly nice but seriously let down by the small infotainment screen and lack of wireless charging.
The Toyota is huge, waaay to big for the class now. I think the boot space being so large should detract points during tests.
The Mazda looks a little too feminine for my liking.
The Subi looks like an oversized wagon rather than an SUV.
The Honda looks like it’s sticking its bottom lip out. CVT’s?? Bahhhh
Japanese manufactures they King in these segment!
in every segment except pickup trucks lol
Wondering about how Skoda would have performed in the test?
They don't show you any of crash tests that'salso important I think.
Cant go wrong with any really, matter of personal preference. We just bought the forester as love the cameras and how spacious the interior feels.
The toyota hybrid has just stopped production due to hybrid break issues. Are hybrid regenerative brakes safe? I've had NY taxi drivers tell me they're not. The recall just makes me question this even more than I had? Is the Rav4 non-hybrid still the best here? Seems like it, no? Where's the Hyundai Santa Fe. At about the same price it seems you get perhaps the nicer car and a bit more size.
Regenerative brakes are quite effective and are used in conjunction with friction brakes depending on what part of the braking curve your stopping is at. It what they use to brake suburban trains (in Perth anyway). I agree that for Toyota, this is not a good look so soon after the launch of the RAV4 and it affects all of their Hybrid vehicles.
Most of people chose Mazda CX 5 but in real life rarely seen
Love how they not mentioning about Honda engine oil dilution problem it ruins safety problem 🤔🤭🤫🤭🤔
Not everyone has it. Thats why
It's a design problem, everyone has it sooner or later😂
Mazda CX-5
One of the best comparative analysis so far 👍
Chose the Honda. Quietest, better ride and handling. 7 year warranty and capped service at $300 per service. Not sure where they got the Toyota boot capacity as the Honda is best in class and with the seats down further extends its lead. But all in all there wasnt a lot in it.
All of them have CVT except the CX-5, Mazda wins.
What's wrong with cvt?
@@baileycummings2874 Many vehicles with CVT have had problems when hitting a certain mileage and it needed to be changed which cost a lot. Most particular examples I guess would be Nissan, many Nissan owners have had it and some have made some videos about it here on youtube. I don't know the rate of the failure but I prefer a regular transmission than after what I reviewed about other vehicles that had CVT. I was shopping for an SUV and nearly got a Rogue but then after all that I went with CX-5.
@@archvile1313 that's like me saying a Hilux normal auto is crap so all autos are crap. Every manufacturer is different and every one has its own problems even transmissions aside. I think the only actual argument to not get a cvt is personal preference.
@@baileycummings2874 Yeah you can say that, it's a perspective thing.
@Arch Vile, this is very unprofessional review! There is no any CVT in RAV4 as you thinking about Nissan. More over RAV4 does not have any transmission too. The transmission is implemented as a planetary gear (automatic transmission in Mazda contains the same planetary elements) which works together with electrical engine (this engine works like CVT). This is very reliable system and it allows to drive 1M km without any problems. There a lot of Toyota hybrids in USA which drive more than 600K km without any problems.
Great review. Have already ordered my RAV4 so this backs up what I’d already researched.
Toyota Fail - th-cam.com/video/VmvAwjE2gg4/w-d-xo.html
All are very good cars! Depends what do you prefer... I'm an ex owner of Honda CR-V 2.2 CDTi and present owner of CX-5 2.2 Skyactiv D manual 6speed and I'm very satisfied...of course there are always some things that could be better, and mazda upgrades them non-stop... Honda and Toyota are more family and practical cars, and mazda more sporty and stylish, Subaru is similar to all of them but definitely the best 4x4.
European version? We only get auto diesel combo here in Australia. Only manual is front wheel drive base petrol.
@@JohnSmith-nz4bn
Yes , Europe version. My mazda is 2.2. D 150hp, manual 6speed, fwd, Attraction trim level - led lights, all parking sensors, heated f seats+steering wheel+windshield wipers etc, but no camera, 19wheels...
Consumption average is 6.2 L/ 100km
@@domagojstefan7308 that's awesome you guys get a manual!
Fantastic video
You just put a base model Subaru against 3 mid level competitors and complained it was missing features even though it was $3000 cheaper? That seems like a glaring oversight in a real review. It's the only one with STANDARD AWD.
I guess car reviewing guys make money by doing such stuff, if they lie about the cars, they might get sued. So they just use some tricks to promote some vehicle or highlight some lacking of features of some other cars. Until the car companies pay them.
Fantastic review guys x
I would not touch the Honda CR-V, small turbo engine and they have had a lot of problems with oil dilution , so would avoid it. The rav4 is just too noisy and does not drive as well. the Forester is a pretty reliable car, but for me the CX-5 just out performs the rest and I thought it handled the road very well.
I'll have anyone of them thanks. I'm not that fussy.