Toyota RAV4 hybrid vs Subaru Forester hybrid 2020 comparison review

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  • Not all hybrids are created equally. And not all mid-sized SUVs are the same, either.
    But in this test we've got two of the most popular and practical models you can buy in the medium SUV space, and both of them are petrol-electric hybrids.
    Here we have the Toyota RAV4 Hybrid GXL AWD up against the Subaru Forester Hybrid L - and we want to see which is the best option for you.
    In this comparison test we’re looking at a pair of hybrid mid-size SUVs that are designed to meet the needs of family buyers, while also aiming to do their bit for the environment.
    Both of these popular models are powered by petrol-electric powertrains, meaning there’s a chance they’ll help you reduce your carbon footprint and lessen the impact on your wallet, too.
    The carryover benchmark in this segment of the market is the Toyota RAV4 hybrid, which has been selling up a storm since its arrival in 2019 - and understandably so. The Toyota RAV4 won CarsGuide’s Car of the Year in 2019, CarsGuide Family Car of the Year, and the hybrid model also won our midsize SUV comparison against a couple of likely competitors. This is one impressive Toyota hybrid SUV in either two or all-wheel drive configurations, and we’ve got the GXL AWD variant here, which is our pick of the range.
    It’s up against the all-new Subaru Forester Hybrid L, which might well offer an unexpected alternative for buyers after this sort of family-friendly, fuel-sipping motoring. The company admits it has the RAV4 to thank for a huge demand surge for this type of Forester model in Australia, and in this instance, the Forester L is more affordable than its rival... but we’ll get to all the nitty gritty about the new Subaru hybrid SUV soon.
    This comparison test review will go through important elements like value for money, practicality, safety, how they drive, ownership, and of course, how each of these SUVs performs when it comes to fuel consumption. They’re hybrids, after all!
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  • @gersonbarros24
    @gersonbarros24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Matt, I really like your reviews. With this one was not an exception.
    Congrats

  • @rolandrocchi1176
    @rolandrocchi1176 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Purchased a Rav4 hybrid today so very pleased with your assessment.

  • @tunoa2
    @tunoa2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thorough and clear .... like the format and presentation

  • @stevela19830402
    @stevela19830402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I had the Toyota hybrid beginning of this year. Love the car no problem at all.

    • @thilolg
      @thilolg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Had ?

  • @fragu123
    @fragu123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great review!👍

  • @damnhockey
    @damnhockey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    4.9 ltr/100 km is amazing. If you want even better petro saving look at a Camry Hybrid, less functionality. Toyota has been making hybrids for over 20 years. Great detailed comparison !

  • @benwilliams949
    @benwilliams949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    a decent review, good job.

  • @z1az285
    @z1az285 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    There are pros and cons for each brand, but in my experience Subaru's simply have a far superior AWD in slippery conditions and Toyota's are more reliable on average. That being said the Forester hybrid price point is too high without meaningful gas savings. I personally own a 2018 legacy and I get 35 mpg on the highway (30 combined) and purchased it with a 10 year extended warranty because of Subaru's reputedly lower reliability. So far, very happy with my choice and price wise a new limited 4 cylinder legacy was lower in price than a fully loaded top of the line Camry. No brainer for me.

  • @alanmay7929
    @alanmay7929 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    i think subaru should have used the toyota hybrid technology , toyota already owns a part of subaru

  • @seanyoung8355
    @seanyoung8355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    On the subaru it actually has a total of 7 usb ports apparently you didn't find the other 4. 2 are in the front center arm rest the other 2 are in the arm rest in the rear. The spare tire is located under the car with a crank to lower it AND it is a FULL SIZE tire NOT a damn donut like in the rav4. Also the hybrid forester uses the 2.5l boxer engine and does NOT offer hybrid in the 2.0 because the 2.0l is the sport turbo cold air induction motor meant for sport models like the wrx. The 2.5l motor produces 232hp and 213ft pnds torque at 4200rpm beating out the rav4 with its 209hp and 195ftpd torque AT 6500RPM. Also 0-60mph is subaru at 4.3sec. Compared to rav4's 4.8sec for 0-60mph! I love how these people also don't mention who's sponsoring the video..,in this case its Toyota and bottom line is this video is a lie!!!! The rav4 is a decent vehicle for the most part but its a shame Toyota has to lie to put their vehicle above what their competition is. The fact is Rav4 has had twice the recalls as the forester and hasn't got equal safety listing as subaru. Toyota has been chasing subaru's tail for the last 7 yrs and obviously will continue to in the forseeable future because they just cannot compete with symetrical all wheel drive!

  • @Trevorfoggia
    @Trevorfoggia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Australia, greetings from Cumbria in the UK.
    Excellent review. It’s always nice to see ‘non biased’ reviews and non ‘top gear’ crap driving.
    Stay safe everybody, don’t let this bastard Coronavirus get you.
    When I look for new cars, I have some principle needs; car height (bad back), electric front seat movement, large boot for electric mobility scooter, good standard safety equipment, excellent seat comfort, decent steering wheel movement. And you know what, it is not easy to find a vehicle that has all this.

  • @afcgeo882
    @afcgeo882 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Toyota comes with a space saver wheel, but enough space for a full-size, if you want to upgrade.

  • @Lob00700
    @Lob00700 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nicely done

  • @georgel3657
    @georgel3657 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm definitely buying one of those rav4 in the new year, better than a Q7 but hybrid and less than half the price

  • @uasamuela8129
    @uasamuela8129 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the RAVC4 CRUISER and it's fantastic to drive, and it's smooth

  • @camf7522
    @camf7522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Don’t forget the back seats recline in the Forester!

    • @MisoTunjic
      @MisoTunjic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      as they do in the rav4...

  • @alexa4316
    @alexa4316 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This generation of RAW 4 is really great.
    We have done round trip from Seattle to San Francisco drawing 2019 RAW 4 hybrid before coronavirus .
    Extremely easy to drive. Only a glitch I discovered , - this car fuel tank capacity. It is impossible to fill it full at gas pump, so the range is around 350 miles from the one tank.

    • @kimberlykoester8703
      @kimberlykoester8703 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Someone commented about how to fix this. Slightly pull the gas nozzle out and slowly add gas until it's full...a bit slower but it apparently will fill it all the way up!

  • @IsaacLoven
    @IsaacLoven 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I am a Subaru fan, but Subaru really should be ashamed of the poor fuel consumption. It's like they didn't test it before putting it into production. Please send your engineers back to the drawing board. They need to do better.

    • @professorgimsara2180
      @professorgimsara2180 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Toyota owns Subaru

    • @bauboni
      @bauboni 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@professorgimsara2180 No, they own ~20% shares of it. They are partners.

    • @eaglen00b
      @eaglen00b 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think a Subaru Forester diesel would make a good touring vehicle. A couple of 20L jerry cans and you'll have a touring range of well over 1400km. More than enough to get you from Southern Cross WA across Nullabor to Ceduna SA.

    • @francispanes4258
      @francispanes4258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its probably bc of their eboxer implementation where it is integrated with the CVT. They can only fit a very small electric engine in there. hopes for the 2nd iteration though.

  • @rxcosmo76
    @rxcosmo76 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Are you able to tow with these vehichles?

  • @odonsaller5238
    @odonsaller5238 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good review and no doubt the RAV4 is an amazing car!

  • @GlowingTube
    @GlowingTube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    If you want a hybrid SUV, the only choice is Toyota. When Toyota releases the hybrid Kluger (Highlander) in Australia it will also have waiting lists.

    • @6speedtib
      @6speedtib 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty true, Honda does have the CRV but it may not be available in Australia. I didn't think it was bad when we test drove it but the GF was not impressed with it.

  • @Kamelemele
    @Kamelemele 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, makes sense right? Toyota has been making hybrids for longer. I have Prius but may move to Rav soon. Thanks for a helpful review.

  • @raychoy88888
    @raychoy88888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The US version of the Forester has a 8 inches infotainment system as an option. I have a 2019 Sport version, and I am very happy with it.

  • @wayneroberts9358
    @wayneroberts9358 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Waited six months for my Cruiser Hybrid and it was well worth it, a great car and lovely to drive.

    • @james6969
      @james6969 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      still going strong?

  • @chrisrose3915
    @chrisrose3915 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Totally agree. RAVH 4 every time. And in 5 years when you trade it you will get much more return.

  • @oddities-whatnot
    @oddities-whatnot 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Its all down to whether you prefer the sound of the boxer engine or not.

  • @rickyyip7611
    @rickyyip7611 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Having a spare tire is good, but some people would still call roadside assist anyways.

    • @IWillNotBeLabelled
      @IWillNotBeLabelled 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Roadside assist will still need a tyre to fit. If the flat tyre is wrecked then it is more likely you are waiting for a flat bed tow truck.

    • @eaglen00b
      @eaglen00b 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You'll be waiting a while for road assist if you get a flat tyre on The Great Central Road.......

  • @braylonking574
    @braylonking574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2020 RAV4 Hybrid definitely wins, I would definitely take a RAV4 Limited or XSE or the Forester.

  • @darylcheshire1618
    @darylcheshire1618 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    People talk about hybrids in terms of fuel economy, but the CVT sometimes cuts out under offroad conditions. Is it possible that the electric motor does the standing start in offroad conditions and hands over to the CVT at higher speeds? If that is true then the fuel economy is irrelevant and explains why the Forrester has an underwhealming battery. Alternatively, the Corolla uses an automatic first gear before handing over to the CVT, so the electric motor might just be like a first gear?
    I admit I know nothing and I’m probably wrong. I own a 2018 XV with CVT which cut out once when offroad, not sure why except to protect it, I would like to replicate the condition to determine if driver technique can overcome this condition.

  • @williambrewis1906
    @williambrewis1906 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi we,ve just purchased our new Rav4 Hybrid Cruiser, still on the waiting list for it to come to Australia can't wait, im so looking forward to it. big savings on fuel and servicing, aswel as parts being relatavley cheap too. Great value for money, me personaly not being racist, would say the New Rav4 is not only a Ladys Suv anymore the Gentlemen can have some great fun in it :-)

  • @SportsFotos42
    @SportsFotos42 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    a Subaru Liberty wagon owner here. as Subaru no longer make wagons, except the Outback, I am looking for a similar sized car to effectively carry the same amount of gear that the Liberty does. after driving a Corolla Hybrid for a day, I came away impressed with the Toyota hybrid system. to be honest, I'd like to go the full EV route, but for the same price as either of these vehicles tested, I'd be getting something half the size, so that option is not open at this time. I was waiting for Subaru to introduce their hybrids to the market and to say I am underwhelmed would be an understatement... and no spare! in this country that should be considered a criminal act. so, at this point in time, the RAV4 GX hybrid is the front runner, if not for the hybrid system, but also more importantly, the space saver can be optioned for a full-sized spare (only available on the GX model). it also runs on 91 RON fuel (as does the Forester), which is also a plus with the difference in prices here of around 20c a litre between 91 and 95, as Euro wagons (you know, a real station wagon) tend to run on 95, again while I'd really like one (damn shame we can't get their hybrids here), the 95 RON requirement kicks them into touch as well. not quite like the tester, I'm over 190cm tall, so that leg and headroom is important.

  • @ericv435
    @ericv435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what can the forester vs rav4 tow

  • @MichaelDitchburnAu
    @MichaelDitchburnAu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I get 8l/100k from my standard 2.5l Forester, pointless getting the Hybrid and loosing the space. I hired a RAV4 hybrid in NZ in Feb got 5l/100k, very Impressed with it. I love Subaru but if a bought a hybrid next it would be the RAV4.

  • @jpr3665
    @jpr3665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Currently own a petrol Subaru Forrester but will go for the RAV4 as Subaru are too late to the party, ordered for delivery in late December

  • @maciejsuchecki7653
    @maciejsuchecki7653 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Here in Europe, Rav4 is considered as a full hybrid. Forester is more like mild hybrid, very mild in fact. I believe Subaru designed this "hybrid" for people who don't want to pay to drive in many paid citi centres around Europe.

    • @laszlok53
      @laszlok53 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably so.

  • @squeezy99
    @squeezy99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’m considering both the eBoxer Forester and the RAV4 hybrid - this review was very helpful. I’m leaning more towards the RAV4 - I like it has the lower fuel consumption while being more powerful.

    • @dharmpara
      @dharmpara 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      also pls consider that toyota has been making hybrid for long time now compare to subaru and tell u from my camry hybrid experience this vehicals are very good..

    • @bennyXTZ
      @bennyXTZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Everything is nice..but..thing also about 4x4..RAV4 Virtual rear axle. Forester Symetrical AWD..🤔What do you thing,how long is possible use 4x4 at RAV 4? OK..RAV4 good technology about hybrid..But! Subaru 4ever..🤣

  • @boiii3productions945
    @boiii3productions945 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both are listed as compact SUVs in the US and why would Subaru not sell the hybrid forester in North America?

  • @videowsatcher
    @videowsatcher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    From a pure hybrid perspective yes, the Forester make no sense given your figures, might as well go non-hybrid. With regards to steering controls you judge too quickly; I have an Outback with a similar set-up and it makes complete sense when you use it everyday (I never once had to rely on the manual from new); its even better than a rental F pace I had recently. With regards to the Rav4 it has a knees up seating position in the rear seat which immediately rules it out for me. I actually was cross shopping for SUVs not too long ago, and it included Mazdas, Toyotas, Nissans, Volvos, even Audis and I went with an Outback. Nothing could match it for comfort, front and rear, thought the CVT is a pain the ... it also feels premium which can't say for all vehicles in its segment.

    • @afcgeo882
      @afcgeo882 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      andred gb You sit in the back of your car often?

    • @brucelimyk
      @brucelimyk 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      agreed. bought forester in mid 2019 over the rav4, both are ICE. Decisions over the seating position, both front and rear, instrument layout and boot layout are the pivoting reasons I have chosen the former

    • @videowsatcher
      @videowsatcher 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@afcgeo882 carry adult passengers sufficiently frequently that it matters

  • @TheAnniegoo
    @TheAnniegoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Driving noise info is confusing. He says the Subaru is noisy, when driving it, but when driving the Toyota, says it is noisier, “but not too bad” or words to that effect. So what is the Subaru noisy compared to?? A car in the luxury class??

  • @pauljj5547
    @pauljj5547 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How about driving them in snow and see which one is better?

    • @WildDanHibiki
      @WildDanHibiki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No snow here in Australia, so can't do that.

  • @eru6ite
    @eru6ite 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I ordered mine 6 months ago and was supposed to take delivery this week (February 2021) but delayed indefinitely. The Melbourne dealer advised that there's a global parts shortage (notably computer chips) plus the massive global demand and Toyota can't keep up. The dealer advised there's a meeting next week with Toyota Australia to discuss what they're doing about it and firm up new delivery dates.

    • @mustafacabdule9872
      @mustafacabdule9872 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      WHAT KIND OF RAV4 U ORDER MATE AND HOW MUCH IS GONNA COST U OVER ALL

    • @eru6ite
      @eru6ite 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mustafacabdule9872 ordered the GX hybrid for $39K

  • @WorthyBuzz
    @WorthyBuzz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You forgot to mention the Subaru has reclining rear seats to make the angle more comfortable for longer trips.

    • @MisoTunjic
      @MisoTunjic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      as does the rav4...

  • @nanutmadalin6368
    @nanutmadalin6368 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where can you buy a new Rav4 Hybrid starting from $35 490? The lowest I can get is from $46 000! Even the base Rav 4 non-hybrid starts from $36 000. What's happening?!

    • @therealoddman
      @therealoddman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nanut Madalin this doesn’t include on road costs, although the prices you are quoting still seem high. I was quoted a GXL 2WD Hybrid 44000 today.

  • @67daltonknox
    @67daltonknox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And now there's the RAV4 Prime to consider.

    • @johnlambert1744
      @johnlambert1744 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not going to be released in Australia unfortunately.

  • @Brahmdagh
    @Brahmdagh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Why don't they just make an electric car with an electric motor in each wheel, and floor full of batteries (loads of torque and fewer moving parts)
    And just put a diesel generator in the hood.

    • @bauboni
      @bauboni 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Price - batteries are really expensive. The RAV4 Hybrid has an 18kWh battery, while full electric cars these days have over 60.

  • @marcobephage1396
    @marcobephage1396 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'll go for the Rav 4
    How much will it cost to replace the battery in the Rav 4 ? & how long does it last?

    • @aussiedeplorable8670
      @aussiedeplorable8670 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The battery is guaranteed for ten years

    • @user-yi9fx4ke6r
      @user-yi9fx4ke6r 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I wouldn’t worry about the battery Toyota Hybrids have a reputation for being extremely reliable.

    • @bauboni
      @bauboni 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      a Prius battery (half the size) goes for around 6-7k, this one in today's prices would cost above 10k to replace.

    • @PM-do2yu
      @PM-do2yu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Crazy Tachikoma In Australia in the 20 years of Toyota offering hybrids only about a dozen batteries have been replaced

    • @laszlok53
      @laszlok53 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aussiedeplorable8670 Well, not really. The "guarantee" is that it keeps it's capacities 80% up to 10 years. But with a long list of conditions. And they have a tendency to always find some conditions you did not meet - and then it looses it's validity. Standard procedure nowadays with everything. :-(

  • @igormonzani
    @igormonzani 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rav4 is the top for me!

  • @dharmpara
    @dharmpara 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Toyota is a king off hybrid Technology ,,

  • @mmadhamster
    @mmadhamster 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't mean to alarm you but the steering wheels on the wrong side

  • @trancenut81
    @trancenut81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    4.9 per 100 for a medium sized SUV is darn impressive! Well done Toyota!

    • @martintsang1662
      @martintsang1662 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I own the Toyota GX Hybrid for a year..., whilst fuel econ is good, I've never achieved 4.8L/100L no matter how hard I try "on a return trip". Its possible to get less than 4.8L on a one way trip because there is generally one direction of a trip which is going more downhill. However, with Premium unleaded 98 petrol, I have achieved 5.2L-5.8L/100km in a mix of heavy traffic, straight up traffic jams when travelling to work in Sydney Traffic. When driving in "Sports" mode and trying to use as much petrol as I can, e.g. accelerating off the lights very hard. Then my results are around 6.8L/100km with airconditioning on. The car doesn't do that much better in highway driving versus traffic jams. In traffic jams, you can pretty much use electric only. My worst result of 6.8L/100km does not include accelerating when i see a red light in next 100m, then to deliberately break just in time. So 6.8L/100km is just me not trying to deliberately use the battery.

    • @lucabrasi2130
      @lucabrasi2130 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@martintsang1662 very interesting with detail explanation keep it going. Can you do a video test and upload

    • @martintsang1662
      @martintsang1662 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lucabrasi2130 I don't do TH-cam vids...but reading my comment from the past. It still stands

    • @lucabrasi2130
      @lucabrasi2130 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@martintsang1662 full tank of gas in heavy traffic. Will this last two weeks?

    • @martintsang1662
      @martintsang1662 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lucabrasi2130 heavy traffic sometimes is better... especially traffic jams. This is because you use the battery only. When batt is low....the engine will recharge it for a few mins. This is most efficient.

  • @gabrielhauser5988
    @gabrielhauser5988 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what about offroad
    ?

  • @johnlambert1744
    @johnlambert1744 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally I much prefer the Subaru's dash to the RAV, however overall the RAV is a much better SUV. I currently own a 2018 XV and whilst it's a great car, the RAV is bigger, better, and more economical. The RAV's reversing camera is pretty ordinary too compared to the one in the Subaru, not sure why Toyota can't improve on this - especially since it's now 2020.

  • @bobjuniel8683
    @bobjuniel8683 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want a full spare wheel for off road driving.
    NO WHEEL, NO DEAL.

  • @valdius85
    @valdius85 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Forester hybrid has the worst of most attributes of a SUV: no spare tire, higher price, no power, bad fuel economy.
    Subaru marketing management did a very poor job of planning it - this combo fits XV but not Forester. The second needs 2.5l engine and stronger electric motor.
    Subaru already developed the first revision of the two electric motors all-time AWD system. For now, Forester hybrid doesn't make sense.

    • @bartonez123
      @bartonez123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The kicker is that the hybrid Forester uses more fuel in real world use than the non-hybrid. None of it makes sense!

    • @eaglen00b
      @eaglen00b 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hybrid SUVs - Hey Subaru, YOU'RE DOIN' IT WRONG.

  • @TreenighetMaranata
    @TreenighetMaranata 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rav4 all day!

  • @auswhofan
    @auswhofan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's far to much effort spent here concocting reasons to make both cars seem to be similar. Other reviews are panning the Forester for bad value and horrible fuel consumption, no spare tyre, this review is way too kind, don't want to offend Subaru after-all, might need another car from them in the future :-(

  • @6speedtib
    @6speedtib 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We recently drove a top trim 2021 Rav 4 Hybrid, then a top trim 2019 Forester (Hybrid not available in the US unfortunately). That said almost everything he found to be better in the Rav 4 we disagreed with. The seats were far better in the Subaru, as the Rav 4's were like sitting on a board. The ride was significantly harsher in the Rav 4, and LOUDER oh my gosh If I am paying $40k+ for a car it should not be as loud as a that Rav 4 was on the highway. There was wind noise from the mirror, road noise in the back it was just bad and that's me comparing it to my mustang convertible... Just overall I was really disappointed in the Rav 4 even more so for the money. I am a little Subaru biased having loved and owned two previously, but I was surprised when the GF said she want's to wait till there is a Hybrid SUV Subaru available rather than get a Rav 4. So all of that said, I hope they improve a little on the tech as the Rav 4 definitely wins in the MG battle at the moment and that is the main reason its still in the running. If we could get our hands on a Rav 4 Prime, we would be buying one they cant be found nearby and without huge mark ups though.

    • @james6969
      @james6969 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      lamo the rav4 is a much better car overall

  • @pauljj5547
    @pauljj5547 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No off road comparison? Shame.

  • @haisamabumustafa8022
    @haisamabumustafa8022 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree 👍.

  • @paulvandierendonck9346
    @paulvandierendonck9346 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My forester hybrid does well on the beach pulling a loaded trailer at low speed. But pulling a trailer (800 kg all in) up hill on the motorway the car lacks power. Doing 60 km/h full power with trucks passing and hooting is not a nice feeling. With a trailer I drive the car in manual mode as on auto she revs up to 5600rpm, no one can rest due to the noise. In manual the revs 3000 and 2 gears higher. I feel there is s software problem in the gearbox. I will sell my forester and look for an awd with more torque!!!

  • @douglasyong6939
    @douglasyong6939 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    CRV hybrid next.. closer "fight"

  • @douglasstemke2444
    @douglasstemke2444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I recently moved from a gas (petrol) Subaru Outback to a RAV4 XLE hybrid. The car does take some getting used to but I like it so far. I had to make the jump quickly so it nice to see I may have made the right choice.

  • @hi9580
    @hi9580 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only good thing about the subaru is off road performance and full time awd

  • @lulolee5325
    @lulolee5325 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Subaru Forester has way better AWD, noticeably better noise insulation, better suspension and control of the vehicle, and more advanced boxer type petrol engine. And those facts alone for lots of men means Subaru Forester is a better SUV car. That said, this new Toyota RAV4 is a very good car and will always have its own lovers.

    • @davidgapp1457
      @davidgapp1457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For a lot of men, power is important. As for the engine, I don't see how the Subaru engine is more advanced than the dual port injection, Atkinson cycle Rav4 engine - maybe you could enlighten me? The Rav4 uses eCVT which uses a planetary gear system rather than a hydraulic/metal chain system (lineartronic). As such, the eCVT is more energy efficient and is considered more reliable in the long term. As for the AWD, I expect in extreme conditions you are correct, however on snow and dirt roads, I have found the Rav4 Hybrid to be remarkably competent. It helps that the rear-axle electric motor has a decent amount of power and a lot of available torque - now if only they'd included an electronic rear-axle lock! Anyhow, unless you go rock hopping, you're unlikely to notice much difference in off-road handling. To be honest I don't own either vehicle - I bought a Rav4 Prime instead. Now that puts both the Forester and the Rav4 Hybrid in the shade. I'm averaging better than 5L/100km which includes more highway driving at 80+ mph than you would expect to see in Australia. Around town I'm getting the equivalent of around 3L/100km (based on the cost of recharging the battery at home). Indeed, except for camping excursions, I can't remember the last time I went to the gas station! But to be honest, what I really like is the power. And the torque. 0 to 100kph in under 6 seconds.

  • @rahuls6015
    @rahuls6015 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That Rav4 needs to have happy face and Subaru definitely needs a redesign the front end, specially considering the price brackets. Well presented review though..

  • @littlejohnny47
    @littlejohnny47 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hard to find much good to say about the Forester Hybrid. Toyota has been doing hybrid long enough to know how to do it. There will always be folks who want to pay more and get less so the reviewer had to find a good point or two for the Subaru. Good luck I say to them....

  • @2157AF
    @2157AF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Good Toyota, i guess they learnt a lot from the prius.

  • @laszlok53
    @laszlok53 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    An addition to the comparing:
    teknikensvarld.se/test-provkorningar/test/toyota-rav4-laddhybrid-farlig-i-algtestet/?referrer=exp-rotator-item-1
    Yes, I know that most of you don't understand the language, but you understand the IMAGE?

  • @trd42
    @trd42 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much is petrol nowadays?? Cheap right!!! I don't mind fuel consumption nowadays!! By the way i own 2020 forester eboxer.

  • @andreaskahr2583
    @andreaskahr2583 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rav4 look so much better too

  • @kentaylor2950
    @kentaylor2950 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    unless you live in the inner suburbs i could not justify any car without a proper spare tyre. no spare tyre wtf

    • @aussiedeplorable8670
      @aussiedeplorable8670 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can fit a full size spare into the Toyota

    • @petron1954
      @petron1954 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aussiedeplorable8670 At extra cost

    • @worrywart1311
      @worrywart1311 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@petron1954 Natch.

  • @laszlok53
    @laszlok53 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd just love to see them in a half a meter deep snow and some ice under... :-)

    • @seanyoung8355
      @seanyoung8355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then you'll find your Rav4 having to be pulled out by the subaru when you get stuck. Why do you think this video DOESN'T compare offroad abilities? Because everyone know Subaru is the king of all wheel drive!! Don't believe me see for yourself look up Subaru has to pull out Rav4 from stuck in snow during review. There are several videos of this and Toyota is so embarassed by it that none of their review comparisons EVER show the Rav4 taking on subaru in offroad scenarios!

    • @laszlok53
      @laszlok53 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seanyoung8355 You must have misunderstood something. I actually HAVE a Subaru Forester, and I am very pleased of it.
      While I don't deny Toyotas usually good qualities.

    • @luisfh5975
      @luisfh5975 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seanyoung8355 th-cam.com/video/OdbS-1eltDc/w-d-xo.html

    • @luisfh5975
      @luisfh5975 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Off-road test ofrecer they both. th-cam.com/video/OdbS-1eltDc/w-d-xo.html

    • @laszlok53
      @laszlok53 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@luisfh5975 And where is the snow and ice? Never mind.
      At the test of the Subaru in the sand, the driver obviously don't want to take up the hill, he presses the BREAK instead of the throttle. You can see how the front left wheel PUSHES the dust upward at the first attempt, and then its trace is visible all the time after. Whata-mistake-to-maka....

  • @ocavaleiro177
    @ocavaleiro177 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting because of fuel consumption. In the other hand 400 ppm of CO2 average concentration causes no global warming.

  • @afcgeo882
    @afcgeo882 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Rav4 doesn’t have a CVT transmission. It has an eCVT transmission, which works completely differently than a CVT.

  • @Aurun30
    @Aurun30 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    since when did subaru make a hybrid

  • @10tenman10
    @10tenman10 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    182 cm is how many feet/inches?

    • @bauboni
      @bauboni 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      6ft

    • @eaglen00b
      @eaglen00b 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      16 Stonkles and 5 Splinks.

  • @kelvpoon
    @kelvpoon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First! I nearly got a RAV4 hybrid. Ended up getting a Skoda Kodiaq lol

    • @karlnormanmordeno3130
      @karlnormanmordeno3130 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      what made you change your mind?

    • @kelvpoon
      @kelvpoon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Karl Norman Mordeno I guess in the end we decided to go for a slightly more lux car, bit bigger, and just a more fun car to drive. We feel that the value is there for what you get but obviously extremely subjective. I wouldn’t mind getting the klugar hybrid but the new one wasn’t here yet.

    • @eaglen00b
      @eaglen00b 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@kelvpoon The words "SKODA" and "luxury" should never be used together in a sentence.

    • @jaisejacob4516
      @jaisejacob4516 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@eaglen00b why?

    • @kelvpoon
      @kelvpoon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      eaglen00b key work is. “More”. It’s not a luxury car. But it’s more than a Toyota, for me.

  • @robteskeyteskey161
    @robteskeyteskey161 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is there never a choice on interior detailing they all seem to be boring black these days in Au anyway

    • @carsguide
      @carsguide  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The RAV4 in Cruiser grade has the choice of black or nutmeg leather-accented seat trim, while if you want a non-hybrid RAV4 the Edge has the choice of orchid brown and light grey softex (fake leather) with orange accents, or black with orange accents.
      Same with Forester. Buy the Sport grade and you get a grey/black trim combo with orange highlights. But not available in the hybrid.
      Watch our 2021 Hyundai Tucson review - that top-spec variant has the choice of grey, brown or black leather, and if you option the N Line pack you get black/grey leather/suede combo.
      Thanks!

  • @kodessa
    @kodessa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    tbh. there shouldn't be a comparison because the Forester is just a half assed attempt at a hybrid

    • @jpr3665
      @jpr3665 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could not whisk an egg with the Toyota electric motor!

  • @marceroble3849
    @marceroble3849 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ¡Hello! Plis traducción al español. 🤗

    • @elizabethmoodie1954
      @elizabethmoodie1954 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yo hablo español pero estoy practicando inglés 🙂

    • @elizabethmoodie1954
      @elizabethmoodie1954 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Si quieres aprender Inglés puedes descargar la aplicación Learn Mach creo que es asi😁

    • @marceroble3849
      @marceroble3849 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok. Muchas gracias. 🤗❤

  • @PersingerJim
    @PersingerJim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s really an incomplete review without mentioning that virtually all 2019 and 2020 RAV4 Hybrid models, which claim to have a 14.5 gallon gas tank, have a serious design flaw which shorts the tank at least 1-2 gallons. In some serious cases, such as my 2019 model, only 3-5 gallons can go in at a fill up. And it does NOT get 40 mpg - Mine claims that, but has never gotten better than 26, and Toyota’s response to that is it is operating “normally.” Since I have a 200-275 mile commute each day, that means I have to fill up the tank at least once or twice a day. Toyota has known about the problem for at least 8 months, yet is still selling the vehicles without disclosing this flaw. There is still no fix and none on the horizon. In meantime, if you request a buyback as I did, with my new vehicle now in the shop unfixable for 6 continuous months, Toyota will inform you that no fix or buyback is available. Buyer beware. In my case, I’ve had to hire a lawyer and file suit. I’ve bought three Toyotas in the last 30 years - they’ve lost a lifelong customer.

    • @IWillNotBeLabelled
      @IWillNotBeLabelled 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm not sure if in Australia we get a different fuel tank or our petrol station pump nozzles are different but I have no problem filling my 2019 RAV4 in Australia,

    • @PersingerJim
      @PersingerJim 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tom de Jongh Glad to hear it. In U.S. there are multiple class action lawsuits regarding it.

    • @ozatwar
      @ozatwar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No problem filling my 2020 model here in Brisbane. Fuel pointer showed way past full when finished.

    • @ozatwar
      @ozatwar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I am averaging 5.5 litres per 100kms at the moment which is 42.7 mpg

    • @kimberlykoester8703
      @kimberlykoester8703 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've heard that if you slightly pull out the nozzle and slowly add the remaining gas, it will fill the tank up to full! Takes a little longer but it apparently works.

  • @fasksaleem4109
    @fasksaleem4109 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Subaru is abit high on consumption and maintaining.

  • @jaisabai4155
    @jaisabai4155 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    NB Subaru. No spare wheel = no purchase.

  • @laurentiutrifan8173
    @laurentiutrifan8173 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subaru 👍

  • @gerardrager7353
    @gerardrager7353 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    06:46
    02:02
    02:41

    • @Honestandtruth
      @Honestandtruth 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oooooohhh I like the Boookay

  • @shamingandembrassingdriver2718
    @shamingandembrassingdriver2718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No manual no deal, autos r just too boring and too many lazy people who rather look at there phone and not feel more connected to car. True facts

  • @tano1747
    @tano1747 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subaru is having a lend of us surely? 12.3 kW isn't going to do anything worth talking about either for power or for regen ... hence the poor fuel consumption

  • @7homas0wen
    @7homas0wen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Screw carbon impact where’s the Mazda CX-5 and its 2.5l turbo, fun handling and luxury interior.

  • @grizzlyaddams3606
    @grizzlyaddams3606 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd just wait for the next Forrester. The interior of the RAV-4 is amazing but that exterior has, "kid" written all over it. No thanks.

  • @rickfoley5596
    @rickfoley5596 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Toyota has one hudge drawback it is not built for full size people. I am 6 3 and cannot drive the Toyota because there is not nearly enough head room for me to sit up. So if you are a full size person there is no choice you have to go with the forester.

    • @kimberlykoester8703
      @kimberlykoester8703 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmm...we just ordered one and my husband is 6 foot...the guy in the video must be really short because he's got a lot of head room! lol

  • @aldoraine9949
    @aldoraine9949 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Subaru seems over overengineered. As far as the cabin goes, this style was the thing 10 years ago, but not anymore.

  • @letsseeif
    @letsseeif 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Forester panel has that "I'll blind 'em with science" look. Looks a tad 'dorky' . RAV4 has that 'gravitas' to impress mums (& dads) esp at sport and schools. The real truth is that while I like Subeys, Toyo's mojo has been revived (of late). [Melb Aussie]

  • @JH-wt8ls
    @JH-wt8ls 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    both great, reliable vehicles, but Toyota out shines with the hybrids........2 cents

  • @bartonez123
    @bartonez123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This hybrid Forester uses more fuel per 100km than the non-hybrid, as tested by you guys (non hybrid 7.4L, this hybrid 7.8L). Probably because it's not only heavier, but because the hybrid is so small, relies on the smaller base motor more and has to thrash more to get going. Combined with the lack of spare tyre and the fact you have to pay more for the lower fuel consumption (not to mention the long term costs you might get from batteries down the line), you'd be an idiot to buy one. It's all negative with no positive. It basically has zero appeal to anyone.

    • @alarcilam
      @alarcilam 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not to mention that the regular fuel consumption of a non hybrid Rav4 is about the same than the hybrid Forester, and if keeping the planet safe is a concern, the CO2 emissions in the regular Rav4 are also lower than the forester.

  • @915buck
    @915buck 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That settles it, I am buying the Subaru!!

  • @rajaindo
    @rajaindo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Although toyota wins for hybrid cars it certainly falls short when it comes down to safety in comparison to the Subaru which has one of best industry leading awd powertrains not to mention their eyesight system which is standard across all their models since 2014. Do your research guys.

    • @milopichu
      @milopichu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      rajaindo kru yeah the video is for hybrid shoppers and the Subaru is the bad choice to say the least

  • @petron1954
    @petron1954 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can see no reason to buy either car based upon so called electric capabilities. Forrester no spare tyre (a must for Australia) and RAV4 (space saver spare). Neither of these cars would be capable of taking off-road with those specifications.

    • @hmaccas738
      @hmaccas738 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Buy 4wd then idiot

  • @vsboy2577
    @vsboy2577 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When the electric motor goes your wallet will not stand a chance

  • @gamingsoldier5314
    @gamingsoldier5314 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subaru Forester must win

  • @plamengeorgiev1
    @plamengeorgiev1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    German and Italian cars are much faster and have low consumption.