W edit, thank you for not underwhelming suburu for how great he is, all though I love the take. I have a few that I'll be disagreeing on, but nonetheless W 💜 Parellels, monolouges, backstory (better executed imp, monika's also good but baru takes it imp) should go to subaru.
bro kept it civil absolute W, backstory and monologues were >= for me though, I didn't have use it cuz I thought it'd look nicer without it but both of those points were pretty 50/50 for me. Parallels though I standby, I do think Subaru does a good job of paralleling the strong men in Re:Zero (like Wilhelm and Reinhard, even Julius) but I think the side stories do such a great job of highlighting the parallels between Monika and each other club member- could be some bias in there though admittedly
@@FlameEMT 🤝🤝🤝 I meant more so that his strongest parallels are with the "good men" imo in RZ I agree with their being more out there. Appreciate ya takin the time to comment mate 🥂
Arc 6 makes such a significant difference? Fire edit anyways 🗿🍷. Interesting choice of effects, has a very 8-bit vibe. I really liked the faded x on my way soundtrack. The only thing i think i would change would be Monika's moniker(get it😂). Existential waifu doesnt have the powerful aura. Maybe something like the existential lady/princess/enigma or the girl in freedom's chains. Idk
I went with waifu specifically because it's what she is designed as/foils but I get your point, and yeah arc 6 buffs Subaru pretty handily it's really damn good
W Video I Have Subaru Extreme Diff Diff BTW I Am A New Subscriber And Content Creator Of This Kind Of Stuff As Well You Have Made Excellent Writing Videos So Far As A Fellow Writing Editor I Love Your Content And Videos
Symbolism to subaru imo his symbolism with greek ancient myth Sisyphus is top tier if you don't know i recommend you reading about it, still W edit tho
Not only is MC just as much of a Doki as everyone else is and deserves to be seen as such, he's also arguably more of a tortured soul than Monika is. Monika realizes she is all alone in a world she shouldn't be in, one that's fake. She created MC (presumably alongside Ive Laster using beta elements) to help her communicate with the world she longs for. But MC? He was effectively born to be a tool. Literally, you could apply so much genuinely harmful rhetoric to MC because he really does fulfill it. He has a personality, goals, ambitions, his own level of intellect, and yet he's nothing more than a puppet. A puppet, which, mind you, has really done nothing wrong and yet can never be allowed to be happy. Pursue Monika? Even if he doesn't know it, that's >!incest!
It's interesting to see someone go to bat for him as much as you have I find it fascinating. I do disagree on some points however. Specifically under the notion that he suffered more than Monika did. From our own perspective you can make that case for sure, but he is not dissimilar to Yuri, Natsuki, or Sayori. As you stated whilst he does possess his own intelligence and sentience he is not aware of the fictitious world around him. This makes him unaware of the "what could have happened". There's not enough in game detail in the side stories to assume that he would become a NEET and die alone. Furthermore I don't understand how the !! Point makes sense? As you stated MC is alluded to be in the anime club in the side stories, important for my point to note that Monika does not have her epiphany in the side stories, I don't think Monika created MC in the base game because of this reason. Without her Epiphany she remains ignorant of the outside world and would have no reason to create MC nor could she even do so in the first place (extrapolating again from her lack of an epiphany). I do like the perspective you bring though, whilst I wouldn't personally have him on the same level of the girls it is nice to see a self insert protagonist (quite literally in this case) have a genuine personality with actual thoughts
@CantOverDoIt hmmmmn you have a point. Idk I overdid it with the whole incest and Monika creating hin thing because she never did that since she couldn't keep the game from going haywire. Idk I guess it's because I feel like he's a character that got screwed over in the grand scheme of things. I think he's on the same level. It helps that he's one of the only characters that survives the entire game. Soooo...um....sorry if I killed the mood. I think I over exaggerated it 😅
@@animebro14 no no you didn't over exaggerate at all you're good I promise. I personally enjoy having smaller debates like this, I respect your position and I'm glad for you articulating your points. There are other people who would've just said "MC underrated" and left it at that with no substance. In that case I appreciate your comment mate 🥂
@@animebro14 01. Blame such as Dan (for Example) for that. ruining Monika/the entirety, existence of the setting (the DDLC game's Earth or whatever) itself that Yuri/she/Natsuki/etc etc are in, alright. (Heh, man....if the DDLC game were to have just been another normal, romantic/etc-like VN Instead and peacefully not another kimi to kanojo to kanojo no koi-esc kind of game, right? imagine that....outside of the obviously available (but still would've preferred official and not just through) mods themselves). 02. since When were the main male(/female) character (the in-game, and/or virtual body form, whatever, version) & Monika herself (blooded) siblings?....
Backstory for her comes in the form of DDLC+ detailing the formation of the club, tbh though I think both of their backstories aren't that amazing and is the category both struggle in the most when compared to other characters
@@CantOverDoIt oh I didn't play DDLC+, so it kinda explains, but I wouldn't call Subaru's backstory bad. I am not a writting debater, but his backstory adds lots of depth to his character. It also explains the main source of his complexes and thus we understand many of his past actions and his motives. That much I can say. Like I don't know if it is impressive, but surely is not bad.
@@toxico814 yeah I don't think either are actively bad by any means, I just find both to be "perfectly serviceable". These 2 are amazing characters in just about every way I just think each of their "backstories" are weaker compared to categories they strive in like Nuance and Complexity
@@CantOverDoIt 'The two best fictional charac-'. 'the [Light] (within Destiny's version) [Itself]. or to All others (Good Side and Evil Side) beneath [It], from the main Destiny omniverses'/franchise: "'right'...."'.
@@CantOverDoIt (not even one of my main favored ones, though here): 'those from the OPM universes and world: "yes, I don't agree too much on that as well."'.
@@CantOverDoIt 'those from the manifold multiverses and books: "don't forget about us, everyone."'. EDIT: (I'm just going to scrunched these other more, random, exampled settings in here instead then). - 'those from the marvel omniverse and Earth(s)/franchise: "seriously? 'The-' Very '-Best'? coming from that Little cosmology's? come on.... no offense to Subaru there."'. - 'those from the xeelee sequence multiverse and books: "us as well."'. - 'those from the warframe multiverse and Sol System/franchise: "perhaps we should remind you, yes?" [Shows off their Space Magics coming their own setting's version of the [Darkness] and such capabilities like [IT] though of a weaker example]'. - 'those from the AK universe and world/franchise: "we are not an Anime high up there, but....still enjoyable if you choose so?~"'. - 'Old One era/Sirius era Humankind, from the horizon universe and galaxy/(two worlds)/franchise: "...."'. - 'Conduit Humans-normal Humans war era Humankind, from the IF universe and world/Timelines: "one, main character of a (electric-Mostly type) Conduit: "What have I missed?-" his main and non-Conduit friend: "basically, the Mainstream has been telling Most them that, we are, er-our setting is 'Forgettable'/Etc too." said-first main character of a Conduit: "oh. 'nice'...."'. etc else....
@@CantOverDoIt you have read arc 6😭😭 Man i gonna cry in season 3 for real Also, i like Tanya Degurechaff, but not anime version, Manga is way better writting! You should try, Tanya from Youjo Senki LN/Manga
@@CantOverDoItDDLC is a VN where I first watched multiple streamers playing it before I decided to touch the vn (so was heavily spoiled) , lol. It was extremely popular even in the midst of popular video games. BTW have you watched all of matpat's videos on DDLC ?
@@CantOverDoIt i guess i never really focused much on her writing huh? still thanks to this it made me wonder about her as a character itself but still atleast you were honest
@Deflamed_Sphere yeah ofc, I can still back up why I find her to be well written but it's important to point out my inherent bias given that I've spent a lot of time personally analyzing her character probably more so than any other character tbh
the edit is actually so peak im gonna tweak so hard
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Subaru arc 7 and 8 mid-high
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Woah, W edit. Subaru V.High Diffing Monika was something I didn't expect. That's definitely a huge Subaru buff for sure. W take, and again W edit.
You put Monika and Subaru dialogues in the edit?
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It was a paint to get the audio levels just right tbh lmao, turned out good though I think, appreciate ya for the support 🙏
@@CantOverDoIt i like watch yours edits ma man/girl!
Continue pls.
Beautiful edit 🎉
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So, great edit. Nothing to say except you're goated. That's all.
🥂🥂 much appreciated I brought out all the stops for this one 🙏
@@CantOverDoIt And it was worth it 🥂
oh no! I can't wait ngl and I like the thumbnail a lot!
Tbh I didn't spend a super long time on this one, not as much as I did on my Danganronpa thumbnail at least ☠️☠️
I appreciate the kind words though 🥂
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@@Nobody_3143 agreed 🗿
Congratulations on your first year here, it’s crazy how much you’ve improved so far 🙌🙌
Much appreciated man 🥂
W edit, thank you for not underwhelming suburu for how great he is, all though I love the take. I have a few that I'll be disagreeing on, but nonetheless W 💜
Parellels, monolouges, backstory (better executed imp, monika's also good but baru takes it imp) should go to subaru.
bro kept it civil absolute W, backstory and monologues were >= for me though, I didn't have use it cuz I thought it'd look nicer without it but both of those points were pretty 50/50 for me. Parallels though I standby, I do think Subaru does a good job of paralleling the strong men in Re:Zero (like Wilhelm and Reinhard, even Julius) but I think the side stories do such a great job of highlighting the parallels between Monika and each other club member- could be some bias in there though admittedly
@@CantOverDoItit's not just the strong men Subaru and Emilia probably has some of the best parallels in the story. Very respectable take though!
@@FlameEMT 🤝🤝🤝 I meant more so that his strongest parallels are with the "good men" imo in RZ I agree with their being more out there. Appreciate ya takin the time to comment mate 🥂
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Wonderful edit. It was well worth the wait . The voice over at the end made the experience even better. 👍
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Arc 6 makes such a significant difference? Fire edit anyways 🗿🍷. Interesting choice of effects, has a very 8-bit vibe. I really liked the faded x on my way soundtrack. The only thing i think i would change would be Monika's moniker(get it😂). Existential waifu doesnt have the powerful aura. Maybe something like the existential lady/princess/enigma or the girl in freedom's chains. Idk
I went with waifu specifically because it's what she is designed as/foils but I get your point, and yeah arc 6 buffs Subaru pretty handily it's really damn good
@@CantOverDoIt actually I just thought of it. Why not call her existential mommy🥵
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I'm glad 🥂 I look forward to your content
It was brilliant
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Another fire edit 🔥
For some reason, I expected Subaru to win, I got it right, haha.
Also, that song brings me a lot of memories 😢
The song is so good man 😭😭😭
@@CantOverDoItif I may ask it's faded x "what" ?
@@Powerlevelover9000 faded x on my way
An absolute beautiful edit (now I won't have to use RBD on myself), Once again congratulations on reaching this 1 year mark
Glad ya liked it, appreciate the kind words mate 🙏
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W edit, infact you used this song during Makise vs Monika and Monika won very high diff
Definitly you got me
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W best edit youve made so far
I think I agree, it definitely took me the longest too 😭😭
Even if sabaru wins it should be extreme diff. W edit nonetheless .
Symbolism to subaru imo his symbolism with greek ancient myth Sisyphus is top tier if you don't know i recommend you reading about it, still W edit tho
I'll look into it thanks 🤝
Ur best edit yet imo
Happy to hear it 🙏 it's defo the one I'm the most proud of
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@@CantOverDoIt I’m peaking to this
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Peak edit bro 🎉
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W edit by the goat
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Not only is MC just as much of a Doki as everyone else is and deserves to be seen as such, he's also arguably more of a tortured soul than Monika is. Monika realizes she is all alone in a world she shouldn't be in, one that's fake. She created MC (presumably alongside Ive Laster using beta elements) to help her communicate with the world she longs for. But MC? He was effectively born to be a tool. Literally, you could apply so much genuinely harmful rhetoric to MC because he really does fulfill it. He has a personality, goals, ambitions, his own level of intellect, and yet he's nothing more than a puppet. A puppet, which, mind you, has really done nothing wrong and yet can never be allowed to be happy. Pursue Monika? Even if he doesn't know it, that's >!incest!
It's interesting to see someone go to bat for him as much as you have I find it fascinating. I do disagree on some points however. Specifically under the notion that he suffered more than Monika did. From our own perspective you can make that case for sure, but he is not dissimilar to Yuri, Natsuki, or Sayori. As you stated whilst he does possess his own intelligence and sentience he is not aware of the fictitious world around him. This makes him unaware of the "what could have happened". There's not enough in game detail in the side stories to assume that he would become a NEET and die alone. Furthermore I don't understand how the !! Point makes sense? As you stated MC is alluded to be in the anime club in the side stories, important for my point to note that Monika does not have her epiphany in the side stories, I don't think Monika created MC in the base game because of this reason. Without her Epiphany she remains ignorant of the outside world and would have no reason to create MC nor could she even do so in the first place (extrapolating again from her lack of an epiphany).
I do like the perspective you bring though, whilst I wouldn't personally have him on the same level of the girls it is nice to see a self insert protagonist (quite literally in this case) have a genuine personality with actual thoughts
@CantOverDoIt hmmmmn you have a point. Idk I overdid it with the whole incest and Monika creating hin thing because she never did that since she couldn't keep the game from going haywire. Idk I guess it's because I feel like he's a character that got screwed over in the grand scheme of things.
I think he's on the same level. It helps that he's one of the only characters that survives the entire game.
Soooo...um....sorry if I killed the mood. I think I over exaggerated it 😅
@@animebro14 no no you didn't over exaggerate at all you're good I promise. I personally enjoy having smaller debates like this, I respect your position and I'm glad for you articulating your points. There are other people who would've just said "MC underrated" and left it at that with no substance. In that case I appreciate your comment mate 🥂
@@animebro14 01. Blame such as Dan (for Example) for that. ruining Monika/the entirety, existence of the setting (the DDLC game's Earth or whatever) itself that Yuri/she/Natsuki/etc etc are in, alright.
(Heh, man....if the DDLC game were to have just been another normal, romantic/etc-like VN Instead and peacefully not another kimi to kanojo to kanojo no koi-esc kind of game, right? imagine that....outside of the obviously available (but still would've preferred official and not just through) mods themselves).
02. since When were the main male(/female) character (the in-game, and/or virtual body form, whatever, version) & Monika herself (blooded) siblings?....
@@CaptainPilipinas Like I said, I felt like I overreacted when I said that last part
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Goated pfp lmao
@@CantOverDoIt thank you 🤣
Big W! What backstory does Monica have, cuz I played the game and I don't remember her backstory. Is there anything outside of the game?
Backstory for her comes in the form of DDLC+ detailing the formation of the club, tbh though I think both of their backstories aren't that amazing and is the category both struggle in the most when compared to other characters
@@CantOverDoIt oh I didn't play DDLC+, so it kinda explains, but I wouldn't call Subaru's backstory bad. I am not a writting debater, but his backstory adds lots of depth to his character. It also explains the main source of his complexes and thus we understand many of his past actions and his motives. That much I can say. Like I don't know if it is impressive, but surely is not bad.
@@toxico814 yeah I don't think either are actively bad by any means, I just find both to be "perfectly serviceable". These 2 are amazing characters in just about every way I just think each of their "backstories" are weaker compared to categories they strive in like Nuance and Complexity
10th like and 16th comment , i like this so much❤❤❤❤❤.😊😊😊😊
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*Imo* monika extream diffs
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Is this some meme about Subaru in WN? IDK fr😅
@@Sad1_SadoYasu nah this just a thing homie does lmao
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This gonna be a peak vidio fr
My predictions: Subaru very high diff
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Peak edit 🥂, subaru wins mid-high diff i think
Valid, I've got higher opinion on Monika's writing accolades than both, I imagine you're closer to the consensus than I am
The two best fictional characters
I wouldn't quite agree but they're both in my top 4 in fiction
@@CantOverDoIt 'The two best fictional charac-'.
'the [Light] (within Destiny's version) [Itself]. or to All others (Good Side and Evil Side) beneath [It], from the main Destiny omniverses'/franchise: "'right'...."'.
@@CantOverDoIt (not even one of my main favored ones, though here):
'those from the OPM universes and world: "yes, I don't agree too much on that as well."'.
@@CantOverDoIt 'UCN/ISA/ICSA era Humankind, from the killzone universe and galaxy/franchise: "same here too."'.
@@CantOverDoIt 'those from the manifold multiverses and books: "don't forget about us, everyone."'.
EDIT: (I'm just going to scrunched these other more, random, exampled settings in here instead then).
- 'those from the marvel omniverse and Earth(s)/franchise: "seriously? 'The-' Very '-Best'? coming from that Little cosmology's? come on....
no offense to Subaru there."'.
- 'those from the xeelee sequence multiverse and books: "us as well."'.
- 'those from the warframe multiverse and Sol System/franchise: "perhaps we should remind you, yes?" [Shows off their Space Magics coming their own setting's version of the [Darkness] and such capabilities like [IT] though of a weaker example]'.
- 'those from the AK universe and world/franchise: "we are not an Anime high up there, but....still enjoyable if you choose so?~"'.
- 'Old One era/Sirius era Humankind, from the horizon universe and galaxy/(two worlds)/franchise: "...."'.
- 'Conduit Humans-normal Humans war era Humankind, from the IF universe and world/Timelines: "one, main character of a (electric-Mostly type) Conduit: "What have I missed?-"
his main and non-Conduit friend: "basically, the Mainstream has been telling Most them that, we are, er-our setting is 'Forgettable'/Etc too."
said-first main character of a Conduit: "oh. 'nice'...."'.
etc else....
And now we wait 🍜🗿
Don't worry I cooked something to hold ya over for the night 🗿🍷
arc 4 Subaru is enough for her (even anime)
and ln/wb Emilia, Ram, Beatrice, Julius, Otto, Garfiel, priscilla, Todd, Al, Theresia and Todd all>
Oh and Vincent
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Same bro
there are more points that go for subaru. for example backstory.
Just a little bit longer
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Imo Monika takes complexity and high-extreme diffs
I would've agreed before arc 6 but arc 6 is such a buff to Subaru's writing tbh
@@CantOverDoIt Well I only watched the anime 😭
@@anuradhamallick138 gotcha, yeah I would say Monika takes anime only Subaru, probs around high diff sounds right
@@CantOverDoIt you have read arc 6😭😭
Man i gonna cry in season 3 for real
Also, i like Tanya Degurechaff, but not anime version, Manga is way better writting!
You should try, Tanya from Youjo Senki LN/Manga
@@Sad1_SadoYasu w for mentioning Tanya, I wish she (or I should say he) receives more attention. An underrated char.
Monika from?
Doki Doki Literature Club+ (Visual Novel)
@@CantOverDoItDDLC is a VN where I first watched multiple streamers playing it before I decided to touch the vn (so was heavily spoiled) , lol. It was extremely popular even in the midst of popular video games.
BTW have you watched all of matpat's videos on DDLC ?
@@Powerlevelover9000 I've not no, I do need to though especially now that he's gone 😭😭😭
Subaru > no diff ☠️
amn is ddlc+ monika that good?
i am surprised to see subaru got a very high diff on that
@@Deflamed_Sphere I have a rather inflated opinion on Monika's writing merits, I imagine most would have Subaru pretty handily over her
@@CantOverDoIt i guess i never really focused much on her writing huh?
still thanks to this it made me wonder about her as a character itself but still atleast you were honest
@Deflamed_Sphere yeah ofc, I can still back up why I find her to be well written but it's important to point out my inherent bias given that I've spent a lot of time personally analyzing her character probably more so than any other character tbh
@@CantOverDoIt fair enough
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I WIN POOKIES GYATTTTTT
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Monika slams
Lf vs monika solo neg diff lf iq monika solo too