Mercedes-Benz W212 E-Class Facelift Review (2013-2016) - Solid Competent Executive | EvoMalaysia.com
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This generation of the E Class is so common in Malaysia. I see more of them than the new ones. And the car still looks so beautiful 10 years later.
Using my w212 2016 model and no regrets on it. Still look better than newer models (for me laa)
Dear Kon, I have owned this car for 9 years now bought it brand new in 2014... I completely agree with you on your thoughts about the product.. i have changed 3 cars since 2014 but still insist to keep this as my daily driver.. I will drop by you sometime when i come to prestige... Btw the car over its 9 years of ownership has been relatively trouble free with no issues... Maybe this will be helpful for someone who is planning to buy one used... thanks and keep up the good work...God Bless
How about the maintenance?
Looking forward to welcome you!!
I got mine last month It's a 2014 facelift e 250 bluetec i love how good it is and how smooth it rides
@kl3jvi congratulations on your purchase! The E 250 BlueTec was not officially sold in Malaysia. Whereabouts are you from?
@@KonWaiLuen Imported it from canada, I live in Albania Europe
Love for Malaysia, most beautiful country, humble peoples, food variety, landscap, rich culture, full of fun.
I always feel Kon can make a good lecturer.. I am sure everyone in class will pay attention and stay interested.
I did tutor engineering subjects for a semester in uni. 👓
@@KonWaiLuen no doubt Lecturer quality 👍🏼👍🏼
Excellent review! Loved watching this as I look towards W212 facelift as my next Mercedes collection after owning a W210 E200 Kompressor.
You made a fantastic video, Kon! I am currently looking into getting a used E200 Bluetec and start feeling only more hype after this video. Thanks!
E 200 BlueTec? May I know which market are you from? We didn't have the E 200 BlueTec in Malaysia.
So helpful in making decisions on which car to buy
Yep same thoughts on the rear lights, much prefer the pre fl. likewise with the F10, I much prefer the pre fl rear tail lights, the fl ones have less presence since it was made slimmer . The thickness in the pre fl much nicer .
F10, I actually like the face-lift tail lights better. Haha
Appreciate your review! 2 year owner heavy daily driver, e350 2014 facelift is definitely reliable
Great to hear! But we didn't have the E 350 officially in Malaysia for the W212 generation. Which country are you from?
Have you got the E350 diesel?
Hi Kon, excellent review! Totally agree with you… I myself own this car from 2014. I love it more than before. It is still easily very relevant in 2024 with its impeccable quality and reliability even at the cost of present technological features such as touch display controls etc….I try to find a reason to sell this car but I fail every time 😅
@@vvkishore 😂👍🏼💕 Use have made my mind up “thank use all” I’ve owned a ML450 & currently own the 2015 A250…I’m going to sell my A250 & buy the 2016 E350d which sounds like it’s the last year of the W212
W212 generation whether pre-facelift or facelift model are one of the best E class now and its still in demand especially in the second hand market.
Yes.... rock solid cars
@@KonWaiLuen totally agree. pls do a review on the CLS 350 w219 and S class W221.
I have a e350cdi SW 2012 and I agree, this is really a great and comfortable car.
Best I ever owned, no major issues after 250'000km
But I prefer mine with the split front optic.
Split front optic meaning pre-facelift? Yes, I like the pre-facelift look more too!
@@KonWaiLuen yes it is the pre face-lift
Hi Kon, the E200 or the E250 is the better one to go for? does the E200 feels underpower for 1,600kg car?
Very helpful. Thanks Kon. 👏🏽👏🏽
What's the difference between g-tronic and tiptronic autogearbox in these e classes? Is one more realible than the other?
my W212/facelift 2014 has an 'assist graphic' BUT can't figure out how to adjust it, kindly asking for your advice? thnx in advance...
I think the 2009 - 2013 conti models are perhaps one of the best years that the German carmakers ever build. Be it the bmw, mercedes or even Audis, they are build to last. Point to note that the W212 facelifted models or even the ones before that came with the 7g tronic gearbox had some gremlins in it. Particularly the ECU within the gearbox which caused a lot of inconveniences to the owners.
F10 5 series, Audi A6 C7 & the W212 E class. These three models are the best among the best, no contest at all.
@@johnmactavish5191 , agree… I don’t know why but I saw many G30, and W213s having problem with their electronic system. Simple thing such as DRL can fail within 1-2 years. My neighbour’s G30 CBU have these problems too.
The G30 overall reliability for the non-PHEV models are okay, but yes, the DRLs seem to fail early.
Just know that facelifted models are still being used as taxi some reaching over 1 million kms.
Automotive pop quiz at 00.08 the answer is Vauxhall with their all new Cavalier in 1988
Hi kok wai luen iam looking to buy a E200 2015 facelift or a E300 bluetech hybrid may i know how is the reliability of these vehicles
Hey there wonderful video that wished could have come much earlier. Being a Mercedes fan, just got the exact same model, with having some hands on experience with it during my MB days, this M274 engine would be the point of discussion.
The M274 was a need of new engine in that era taking the age of the M271 with later M271 evo for the CGI. M274 has piezzo direct injectors which makes the diesel-like sound and now its almost common in the new era of 2.0T direction injection, be it BMW as well. One key point to take note is the engine idling sound, ‘diesel like sound’ getting harsh, your morning cold starts becomes very noisy (timing chain) which usually goes away once the engine heats up to 60c. The issue is the engine oil pump in the sump. For some reason, MB decided to have a solenoid at the oil pump to control the oil pump pressure. The solenoid also has a wire directly connected to it inside. Look out for the engine code in the diagnostics ‘internal wiring short-circuit’ which causes to the solenoid to fail and the engine doesn’t get the required lubrication and next thing your engine jams. Could be solved with a RM 1.5k fix. Also take note on the LED headlights, they have a common issue where the RHS headlight highbeam doesn’t function and a warning will appear on the meter cluster. It could be due to the Headlight ECU or the actuator motor in the headlight. A complete set of it is RM 16k.
The suspension though, its AMG spec and our roads are bad.
Hope to see more videos on these era cars, which could help some petrol heads out there thinking of one.
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Congratulations on the acquisition, and thank you for your insightful share.
Speaking of the M274, once upon a time, a loyal E-Class owner (one of those guys who went from 123 to 124 to 210 and finally 212, 213) was complaining to me how the engine of his E 250 M274 was rattling like a diesel and wanted MBM to buy his car back!
I told him, this was the natural characteristic of the engine, it's not a defect, and highly unlikely MBM would accede to his demand.
Hi Kon, In my Indian W212 E350D facelift doesnt have this facility.
Nice but the Pre-face lift was the classic Benz to get. I miss the quad headlight design withe flared rear fenders.
my W212/facelift 2014 has an 'assist graphic' BUT can't figure out how to adjust it, kindly asking for your advice? thnx in advance... ANYONE???
Couldn’t agree with you more. Hope you get to try the M276 V6 variant soon.
We didn't get many M276 W212s here because Mercedes didn't bring it officially to Malaysia. The few that made it here are grey imports. Whereabouts are you from?
@@KonWaiLuen the Philippines 🇵🇭
I’ve had my E300 M276 for 10 years and I agree with you on your assessment on 212 e klasses vs 213 models and up. 6>4 hehe 😜
The Myvi at 5:30 needs to be given an aggresive honk lol.
Hahaha... it's ok. Came at the right time to test the system. 😄
Just brought E250 petrol from 2015, cannot find any reviews on that version as its really rare in Europe and UK
Congrats! In Europe, I believe this generation E-Class was primarily diesel?
Dear Kon, thanks for this great video clip. İt really helped me to get know the car features. I bought 2013 w212(facelift) E350 with m276 v6 engine. Mileage is 138 000 km. I really love this car. We always owned e class and it is like family tradition. But i want to get sure if my car is really facelift and produced in 2013 but not the pre facelift. How to know that? Was facelift really produced in 2013? I doubt my car was modified and tuned to w212r
the facelift (assuming yours is a sedan) has a completely different bodyline compared to prefacelift at the rear quarter fender. almost impossible to fake.
Thanks for the reply. Appreciate it
Drove the pre fl w212 e250 japan spec. Power wise is adequate, the interior is superb, same goes to exterior (amg spec of course). The only thing I didn’t like is the suspension. The front is too low compared to rear. And the suspension is definitely suitable for daily drive n town driving. Highway cruise is ok but going above that, you can feel the suspension can’t keep up. But overall a good cruiser. Btw, looking for G30 right now. Hehehe
In honesty, the F10 is already a superior car to the W212 in many aspects; the G30 is a significant improvement over the F10.
Any comments about the E300? The used section are fulled of the W212 E300 at a very very attractive yet probably deceptive price.
E 300 petrol V6 is good. Reliable, albeit slightly underpowered considering the road tax.
E 300 BlueTec Hybrid, that one is a risky buy, but fuel economy is fantastic, and all very highly specced cars.
I recently just test drive a pre facelift 2012 model Avantgarde, Japan spec. Wish to get a used to experience driving a mercedes. And being a Camry owner for a decade, i find this W212 ride comfort is out of my expectation. First noisy cabin mainly from tyres. Secondly there was noticeable coarse vibration at front floor when speed at 60km/hr. Third, the Distronic is inoperable at raining weather. Fourth, noticeable noise when rain which i thought an E class should have more insulation from such noise. That makes me wonder if I should keep searching for another of the same model or i should go for something else.
Hahaha.. you've been spoiled by the Camry.
Perhaps test 1 or 2 more units to compare?
I agree with this. I actually have a facelift 2014 E350 diesel. For me, the previous W211 E Class from 2002 to 2009 was quieter and more refined. The W212 has quite a bit of road noise and wind noise in comparison.
Hi kon, what about the mercedes benz e300 bluetech model like? mind making a video on that
That model a bit risky. Hit and miss in terms of reliability, and suspension famous for bottoming up. Much cheaper than the regular E 200 or E 250, for good reason
Mine E is all black... ppl said to me, too much 'Ggstar' one.... what?? 🥺🥺
I do have both s90 and e300 hybrid, but still i more prefer to volvo s90 in term of comfort 😁
Well done!
Hi Kon can you review the Kia Optima K5 2013 to 2015 model?
Happy to do so if I can get my hands on a unit.
Great video.. about to buy one..
Congratulations!!
one of the drawback of this car is the engine sound at outside is not pleasant, sounds like a lorry with the diesel a-like clutter and is loud. But the good thing is none of them get into the cabin.
Yes, the 1.8 CGI does not make the same sound.
funny how bmw's b48 also makes the same clatter. maybe its the direct injection
How is the reliability of the E250 CGI Facelift Models with thr 2.0 4 Cylinder Engine?
Reliability is okay, just that the engine rattles a bit like a diesel. The older 1.8 CGI actually behaves smoother and more refined.
Hi Kon, this review could not have come at a better timing. Considering an JP Spec 2014 W212 E250 AMG against a MY Spec 2014 F10 528i as a company car. How would you compare the 2 having driven both - I am trying to get behind the wheels of an E250 for a test drive soon myself. I have driven the older 3.0 litre version of the 528i and owned a JP Spec 2004 525i M-Sport for almost 8 years before selling it off 2 years back. The F10 probably handles better no doubt but I still don't feel like it's as solidly put together and made compared to a W212. Cheers!
Your opinion is valid. The W212 does have a bit more solid feel than the F10, but the F10 itself is pretty reliable. Have you spotted a specific unit?
@@KonWaiLuen will be heading out to see a few units next week - all LCI models. Pricing wise they are both within the amount we are looking to spend. I have had 2 BMWs prior to this - a 1998 E36 328i (still regret selling it) and the E60 525i after that. Never had a Merc before and the facelifted W212 is looking like a pretty impressive package.
The W212 is pretty good, and I highly recommend anyone interested to just go ahead and get it.
Kon, local model does not come fitted with distronic plus?
Unfortunately no. Even early batches W213 didn't get Distronic.
Quite an opposite experience for me, coming from a 2010 Camry. No doubt on the solid feeling of the car but the ride quality from the sport suspension is just harsh. Couple with a tight driver's footwell area and an aggresive bolster on the front seats, boy the comfort level is questionable. Not a relaxing car to travel in and not forgetting the fact that the low ride height & the suspension tuning really cannot handle speedbumps. IF you fancy the facelift AMG Line like this, it is recommended to also try the UK-spec car or even the local E250/E400, then only you decide.
The ride is firmer than one would expect of an E-Class, but it still feels better sorted than the W213.
An impressive review indeed. Is there a way to contact u? Im looking for a good post facelift w212. Tq
Drop me a line at 012-488 0367.
Hi boss,w212 only Japan spec
Have distronic plus cruise control?
They didn't offer this feature in Malaysia, but for Japan spec, it really depends whether the car came with it or not.
How about a 2010 pre facelift e200? How's the reliability and any major problems to take note of? Thinking between this and a 2011 pre facelift 523i
I personally like the pre-facelift more than the face-lift, so yes, good buy. Maintenance wise, just minor wear and tear. The 1.8 M271 CGI engine is pretty reliable. Is there a specific unit that you are scoping? If not, do consider the E 250 instead as you get better performance and spec for not much more money.
Oh, and for the record, although I prefer the F10, 523i vs E 200 or E 250, I'll recommend the E-Class any day.
@@KonWaiLuen ahhh okok how about the transmission? Any major drawback of the 5tronic compared to the newer 7tronic? Yeahh I am looking at an acquaintance who is letting go of theirs at about 50k, is that price okay for a 2010 model?
@@KonWaiLuen any reason why? Build quality and comfort? 523i tempts me with it's inline 6 😂
@@TheProBadminton RM50k is a fair price. If you are confident of the car's history, go for it.
Wondering if this car still available or have some more like this? Contact plz.. 😊
This car is available. Can get in touch with us at 012-4880367 for more info
that little car driver got our with brown pants
used to have w212 'pre-facelift' but the facelift one is way better
What engine did your car have? In our market, majority had the 1.8 CGI in the pre-facelift and the 2.0 M274 in the facelifts. I generally find the 1.8 CGI to be smoother in comparison, but that's just me
next video will be the w221 😅
Hye kon..,mana lagi mudah dari segi penjagaan dan kos.. m271 vs m274
Saya lebih suka pada M271 1.8. Enjin tu rasa lebih lancar bila tekan.
M274 lebih baru, lebih power, tapi saya rasa ada sedikit kasar
How can i diffentiate the w212 got all the precrash feather and ACC?
See the Mercedes logo on the grille. If plastic laminate, means there is the radar module behind.
@@KonWaiLuen i hv survey on few unit w212 few month ago, alot used car dealer will jz change the logo grill to the one look like hv radar. So really cant diferentiate it. I think the only way is look into the meter menu inside hv the ACC function or not.
I am much more a believer now
I watched the whole video , although it's long , the car is fantastic,and it is worth it. Thank you, man .I'm getting it inshallah
From Morocco 🇲🇦 ♥️
Congrats and good luck with your hunt! What is the popular spec of this car in Morocco?
@KonWaiLuen we love mercedess so much in Morocco. There's a city called El Nador , where you will find more mercedess cars than any place in the world . My father had an e220 1996 avant-garde, and I will buy this e 250 2016 inshallah, the e 250 is not so popular here but , the e 220 from 1996 to 2022 , is everywhere you go , literally everywhere,,
about the price of the e 250 2016, the car before face lift , is worth around 160000 MAD , wich is 16000 €, IT'S a very good care ,
Thank you for the video again brother
@@PEACE...1khoya nta mn nador
@@oneshot308 la a khay ana mn oujda
Even W140 has a distronic :)
Will this car year 2014 eligible for loan? Do you have any video guidance in related to this matter?
Is it a wise choice to let go of my city 2021 for a used 10 years old merc?
Just checked for you, still available for loan, but with 6-year tenure.
As for guidance, I have published this video which you can check out: th-cam.com/video/gJ3AX0JW8wU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=HiniNCR7Nb2gAqDt
@@KonWaiLuen thanks!
Well done
Thanks for watching!
The video the legendary V221 pls!
Not many in running condition, unfortunately
@@KonWaiLuen Can't be that hard to maintain an old S-class?
@incisor78 not hard, but not cheap. Haha
@@KonWaiLuen For sure😅
w212 over 5 series? planning to get one year 2016 model😅
I just looked up the W212’s & they’re all E class from 2009-2016
Whatever said, nothing beats a Toyota Camry.
A twenty year old Camry can put new cars to shame.
Camry sure win lo.
Winner in the boring department for sure, for all you "safe" and "pragmatic" types.
Yup, winner of fugliest car 🤣
@@KonWaiLuen this is a joke, right?)
Kon boleh full review & test drive bmw g12 2.0...berapa harga model kon review ni?
Boleh je. Once dapat kereta, kita review
@@KonWaiLuen terima kasih kon...model merc ni berapa harga u review ni?
@@shakirdarius1772 harga RM115k sebelum insurance dan road tax, tapi termasuk processing. Kalau nak loan, boleh pinjam sampai RM120k (5 tahun)
@@shakirdarius1772 boleh Roger 012-488 0367 untuk pertanyaan lanjut
@@KonWaiLuen ooooo baik kon...terima kasih ya reply😁👍
S Class is the leaders on safety technology.. Mercedes benz is alwyas a head of time . But watching car buying show on Monday i find a strong biased towards BMW.
We generally prefer the driving experience offered by BMW, but this gen of Mercs, I have a great liking for.
Kon I have some questions.
Can you fill in your details in this form.... we'll be in touch... forms.gle/XJTpugthfeVh4Tub9
I want this, is it still available?
can you buzz us at 012-4880367
"Solid and competent" meanwhile best in its class 😂
The f10 5 series handling is way better.more supple ride and way more powerful.only that the e class will not bleed your money as much😂
You may be surprised. The W212 is a relatively reliable car, but the F10 is pretty decent too.
F10 is not really as powerful as w212
@@egwuogusmarth.c4949 f10 with 245 bhp,212 e250 2.0 only with 211 bhp..refinement;handling goes to f10,reliability is a tie between this two
@@egwuogusmarth.c4949Power is subjective. If you compare a F10 M car Vs the 212 E63 ,the BMW fares better with BMW ALWAYS underclaiming BOTH the Power and O to 100( 62mph) km/ h!
Tell me more! I’m closing a deal on an e class 2014 and I am looking at the f10 also. I thought the sound isolation was better in merc?
So it is BAD. BAD, but not Too BAD. Then you say the car after this….. It appears your statement is confusing. No Good and then Good.
First
Hello!
@@KonWaiLuen really enjoyed your review!
You talked so much about the car but you left out the most important part of showing the engine compartment and the engine itself. Big fail there. Plus talking so much just more the crap out of me.
You are totally wrong
Wrong info, made stop watching your video no matter what you have to say in the rest if the video.
I m ready to stand corrected
I am getting one w212 cgi e200 driven only 30000 k m with service records but the confusion is will it be the good choice?? Can you please help me??
Sounds like a decent purchase if price is right