Bought one 2 days ago. Card reader, fingerprint, backlit keyboard (although German), FHD, basically everything I wanted except touch screen but that's whatever. For just 250 euros, base spec but I'll buy cheap upgrades off amazon or something. Love it, minimal damages keyboard and everything is flawless 🔥🔥🔥
Picked up the 8th gen 7, with m.2 and 11pro installed for $114 plus shipping on eBay. Got lucky! This laptop is great for everything. School, work and play. Even with upgrade costs, better than the new ones coming out these days. Upgraded to 2tb and 32gb ram. Batteries still at 70%. So those might be next. Great video showcasing the little beast.
Nice man, got i5 gen 8, battery, charger, and good condition for $119. Will do the same with mine of upgrading to 32 gb and 1-2 tb nvme. Maybe get duel heatsink since people are saying it’s good
Nice, got mine for about $180 with 8gb ram, 250gb storage and 150 cycles on the battery. Im living in the EU so prices are a bit inflated. I’m upgrading this to 24Gb ram and 512gb m.2
Nice! -- QUESTION -- I ordered a used T480 with the FHD/1080P screen. However, the sent the one with a "touch" screen which is a feature I would never use. It is also FHD/1080p. My question is, I can return it and get the one without "touch". Do they both view the same or is the Touch screen worse quality or a battery hog? Please help. I must decide quickly and I think they intentionally stuck me with this screen.
It’s funny your i5 CPU performed better than my i7-8650U by 300 points (R23) even though my CPU has a better cooling system (dual heat pipe which only comes with dedicated GPU). My laptop stutters a lot in Minecraft and other games compared to you, and the display is not even Full HD!. I think I lost the silicon lottery. I’m still thankful I own one of the greatest laptops out there, I didn’t buy it for gaming in the first place. I appreciate your video 👍.
I have exactly the same t480 as you. your instance probably has poor CPU and GPU cooling. you need to check the density of pressing the planes of the copper radiator to the planes of the CPU and GPU crystals. stamping of copper plates can have small defects in the form of protrusions, which makes it impossible to press the cooling radiator and chips. it is necessary to align the planes as much as possible, by the method of grinding and polishing, constantly applying, to compare the contacting planes. one more nuance, the temperature sensor, which in the form of a wire, is pressed against the side plate of the radiator, reacts too slowly to the rise in temperature, and it needs to be moved to the heat pipes. then the fan will react faster, increasing the speed earlier than now. thus cpu throttling will not be as critical. Also, it's a software problem in temperature and CPU frequency management, which drops when the mx150 GPU exceeds 70°C. also, before starting the game on t480, give the laptop some time for the antivirus to scan the system, and only then start the game. try it good luck
I have the ThinkPad T480s. Intel Quad-Core i5-8350U with 1.7GHz, 16GB DDR4 RAM, 512GB SSD. It's a Linux machine now. I plan on more mods, but I can't seem to find time and access to another laptop to do everything at once. Dual fans, memory expansion, possibly a touch screen mod, but performance first.
I highly recommend undervolting the CPU of your Thinkpad T480. Previously, my i5-8350U scored 3300 in 3 passes, now it can get 3900 for 3 passes, or over 4k for a single run. (Cinebench R23)
@@benchmarks31 Are you suggesting that the temps are higher because of the undervolt? I doubt it's because of that. You might want to check other metrics in ThrottleStop. Personally, I'm fine with my CPU running at max temps under load. I got a 4234 Cinebench multi-core score with 4 passes this morning after trying out a bit more undervolting.
No, you misunderstood. The temperatures are high before undervolting. Even in the video you can see that the temperatures on stock settings are very high - 90 degrees Celsius during gaming.
I would also look at the L380, while it lack the build quality of a T480, ive found mine to be awesome once I switched to linux mint. I got it for $200 with i7 8550u 16gm, 512 SSD and FHD display
Nice! -- QUESTION -- I ordered a used T480 with the FHD/1080P screen. However, the sent the one with a "touch" screen which is a feature I would never use. It is also FHD/1080p. My question is, I can return it and get the one without "touch". Do they both view the same or is the Touch screen worse quality or a battery hog? Please help. I must decide quickly and I think they intentionally stuck me with this screen.
The touch screen is practically no different from a regular FHD. Battery life may be slightly lower, but not enough to worry about it. I was skeptical about laptops with a touch screen, but after purchasing the X1 Yoga I completely changed my mind and I think it is quite a nice and convenient option.
@@benchmarks31 ..interesting. I have never viewed the two screens (touch vs non-touch) side by side. Is it possible to notice any differnce by simply looking at them? The Lenovo specs lists the same brightness etc. Wish there was a side by side video on it. The battery life is over 9 hours so I doubt all those who say it kills 30 percent of battery life.
30 percent less battery life by using a touch screen? That can't be true. Unfortunately, I don't have a touchscreen T480, so I can only rely on what I can see on TH-cam or read.
@@benchmarks31 ,,i suspect that you are correct. I doubt that there is any difference, or at least no measurable difference. In fact, I doubt that the screen even appears different. It may be that the touch is a better looking image. Seems just about perfect from looking at it. Wish Windows 10 had better Aero transparancy like Windows 7, though.
A485 is an interesting alternative to the T480. It's a solid choice if you prefer AMD's cpus. However, keep in mind that the A485 might have some minor differences in battery life and thermals compared to the T480.
I got its smaller sibling, X280, but without backlit keyboard. I wonder if I can replace it into backlit one. Otherwise, it performs well for my needs.
Will this be fine with a lightweight linux distro for programming (computer science engineering)? I think it should be. I only plan to use it for classes and exams since I already have a beast computer.
The T480 has two RAM slots and Power Bridge. The T490 doesn't offer any improvements. Both models use Intel's 8th generation processors. So in my opinion the choice is simple - the T480.
Will be usable for another 10 years. Other planned obsolescence laptop like MacBook Air M1 only last 3 years that is if a soldered SSD doesn’t die first lol
@@Shtedko The t480s doesn't have powerbridge and it's ram is soldered The t480 was the last great traditional Thinkpad There's still a couple modern Thinkpads that are decent but have a couple of the traditional Thinkpad features removed
@@Zeroneii3 Im wondering which one i should get rn. The options are two: T480 i5-8250U 32 gig ram UHD 620 T480S i7-8650U 24 gig ram UHD 620 Price is pretty much the same. I think specs wise the t480s is better and the second heatsink is nice too. However im a little sceptical about the battery as its a used laptop, but I do have a decent 72 Wh battery that I could easily put on the T480. Both got pros and cons🤷♂️
It depends on your preferences. The X390 is basically a 13-inch T490. However, it is important to note that the X390 has RAM soldered in, so it is not easy to upgrade.
@benchmarks31 thanks. Sadly I had to get the x390 yoga instead of the t480. I still think it should be alright for what I have to do. It's also just temporary (at least that's what I'm telling myself)
@benchmarks31 so (random question) would it be better to keep windows 10 pro on this x390 yoga? Or should I update to the more demanding windows 11? Where this has only 8gb ram I'm worried about the functionality if I need more demanding things to be ran.
Anyone owning this laptop had problems with overheating? Even when runing things like Photoshop or classic WoW my would turn into a jet engine that burns on touch..
I have FHD touchscreen model T480 20L6. I just do not like brightness 250 nits. Friends, on which model screen I can replace it for more brightness screen?
@@МелашРоthere are folks that have documented upgrading the screen to even a 4k 500 nit model. Just gotta search around, reddit is a decent place to start.
A485 can outperform the T480 in benchmarks, but it depends on the specific configuration. For example, the ThinkPad A485 with Ryzen 5 2500U has a Cinebench R23 score very close to the i5-8250U, but its RX Vega 8 iGPU scores about 104% higher in 3DMark Fire Strike. This means the A485 with R5 2500U will have better gaming performance than the T480 with i5-8250U and UHD 620.
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Bought one 2 days ago. Card reader, fingerprint, backlit keyboard (although German), FHD, basically everything I wanted except touch screen but that's whatever. For just 250 euros, base spec but I'll buy cheap upgrades off amazon or something. Love it, minimal damages keyboard and everything is flawless 🔥🔥🔥
I think there is a mod for touch screen
@@DhananjayKumarMishra-e5g there is
@@DhananjayKumarMishra-e5g although you lose some of the options. Personally I don't like touch screen pc
got mine, same specs us keyboard for 120€
Picked up the 8th gen 7, with m.2 and 11pro installed for $114 plus shipping on eBay. Got lucky! This laptop is great for everything. School, work and play. Even with upgrade costs, better than the new ones coming out these days. Upgraded to 2tb and 32gb ram. Batteries still at 70%. So those might be next. Great video showcasing the little beast.
Good deal!
Nice man, got i5 gen 8, battery, charger, and good condition for $119. Will do the same with mine of upgrading to 32 gb and 1-2 tb nvme. Maybe get duel heatsink since people are saying it’s good
That's way better than mine for 160$
Nice, got mine for about $180 with 8gb ram, 250gb storage and 150 cycles on the battery. Im living in the EU so prices are a bit inflated. I’m upgrading this to 24Gb ram and 512gb m.2
Nice! -- QUESTION -- I ordered a used T480 with the FHD/1080P screen. However, the sent the one with a "touch" screen which is a feature I would never use. It is also FHD/1080p. My question is, I can return it and get the one without "touch". Do they both view the same or is the Touch screen worse quality or a battery hog? Please help. I must decide quickly and I think they intentionally stuck me with this screen.
Man thanks for this video, im planning to buy a t480 next month
With an i5 8250u 16gb of ram and 512gb m.2 ssd
I think iml enjoy it
It’s funny your i5 CPU performed better than my i7-8650U by 300 points (R23) even though my CPU has a better cooling system (dual heat pipe which only comes with dedicated GPU).
My laptop stutters a lot in Minecraft and other games compared to you, and the display is not even Full HD!. I think I lost the silicon lottery. I’m still thankful I own one of the greatest laptops out there, I didn’t buy it for gaming in the first place.
I appreciate your video 👍.
I have exactly the same t480 as you. your instance probably has poor CPU and GPU cooling. you need to check the density of pressing the planes of the copper radiator to the planes of the CPU and GPU crystals. stamping of copper plates can have small defects in the form of protrusions, which makes it impossible to press the cooling radiator and chips. it is necessary to align the planes as much as possible, by the method of grinding and polishing, constantly applying, to compare the contacting planes. one more nuance, the temperature sensor, which in the form of a wire, is pressed against the side plate of the radiator, reacts too slowly to the rise in temperature, and it needs to be moved to the heat pipes. then the fan will react faster, increasing the speed earlier than now. thus cpu throttling will not be as critical. Also, it's a software problem in temperature and CPU frequency management, which drops when the mx150 GPU exceeds 70°C. also, before starting the game on t480, give the laptop some time for the antivirus to scan the system, and only then start the game. try it good luck
Change the thermal paste, it helped some.
Use Sodium mod for Minecraft
I get 100-150 fps with a 40 chunk render with the i7 8650u
I have the ThinkPad T480s. Intel Quad-Core i5-8350U with 1.7GHz, 16GB DDR4 RAM, 512GB SSD. It's a Linux machine now. I plan on more mods, but I can't seem to find time and access to another laptop to do everything at once. Dual fans, memory expansion, possibly a touch screen mod, but performance first.
One of best laptop series of all time along with HP Elitebooks.
I highly recommend undervolting the CPU of your Thinkpad T480. Previously, my i5-8350U scored 3300 in 3 passes, now it can get 3900 for 3 passes, or over 4k for a single run. (Cinebench R23)
Thanks for suggestion. I've been undervolting the T480 a bit lately, the temperatures are suspiciously high even while watching TH-cam.
@@benchmarks31 Are you suggesting that the temps are higher because of the undervolt? I doubt it's because of that. You might want to check other metrics in ThrottleStop. Personally, I'm fine with my CPU running at max temps under load. I got a 4234 Cinebench multi-core score with 4 passes this morning after trying out a bit more undervolting.
No, you misunderstood. The temperatures are high before undervolting. Even in the video you can see that the temperatures on stock settings are very high - 90 degrees Celsius during gaming.
@@benchmarks31 Wont undervolting reduce temperatures?
Yes, it will lower the temperature. That's why I've recently become interested in CPU undervolting and I'm planning to do it on my T480.
I would also look at the L380, while it lack the build quality of a T480, ive found mine to be awesome once I switched to linux mint. I got it for $200 with i7 8550u 16gm, 512 SSD and FHD display
just found out that the usb-c and thunderbolt ports are also always on too
Thanks for the info!
you tested like 50 games! thank you, you deserve more views/subs 💚
This is the ThinkPad with the same spec that i use for work still . I´d say , T480 is still a very good laptop for office work
T470 best laptop i have
This is a good video I was looking for a laptop for coding this will be a great start
Thank you very much for the effort! ❤️
Next Thinkpad T480s Sir
yessss pls
@@JoseDiaz-qd7igBattery is disappointing on T480s.
@@EternalEnemylike what? How much battery hour u get
Nice! -- QUESTION -- I ordered a used T480 with the FHD/1080P screen. However, the sent the one with a "touch" screen which is a feature I would never use. It is also FHD/1080p. My question is, I can return it and get the one without "touch". Do they both view the same or is the Touch screen worse quality or a battery hog? Please help. I must decide quickly and I think they intentionally stuck me with this screen.
The touch screen is practically no different from a regular FHD. Battery life may be slightly lower, but not enough to worry about it. I was skeptical about laptops with a touch screen, but after purchasing the X1 Yoga I completely changed my mind and I think it is quite a nice and convenient option.
@@benchmarks31 ..interesting. I have never viewed the two screens (touch vs non-touch) side by side. Is it possible to notice any differnce by simply looking at them? The Lenovo specs lists the same brightness etc. Wish there was a side by side video on it. The battery life is over 9 hours so I doubt all those who say it kills 30 percent of battery life.
30 percent less battery life by using a touch screen? That can't be true. Unfortunately, I don't have a touchscreen T480, so I can only rely on what I can see on TH-cam or read.
@@benchmarks31 ,,i suspect that you are correct. I doubt that there is any difference, or at least no measurable difference. In fact, I doubt that the screen even appears different. It may be that the touch is a better looking image. Seems just about perfect from looking at it. Wish Windows 10 had better Aero transparancy like Windows 7, though.
my man, they practically made you a 70ish $ discount by giving you one with touch.
Bravo! Excellent job
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Amazing in depth review!!!!
Your opinion on ThinkPad A485? It's basically the AMD Ryzen version of the ThinkPad T480, they are very similar
A485 is an interesting alternative to the T480. It's a solid choice if you prefer AMD's cpus. However, keep in mind that the A485 might have some minor differences in battery life and thermals compared to the T480.
nice video you deserve more subs
Sd card ready, just what i need.
I got its smaller sibling, X280, but without backlit keyboard. I wonder if I can replace it into backlit one. Otherwise, it performs well for my needs.
Yes, you can replace the keyboard with a backlit one in the X280.
Lenovo keyboards are great. Even replacing them is a satisfying process
i hope to get T580 i5 model this year..
How was it
@@omkarpawar7502 still no chance to find one in local market.
how about the battery life? do you get 5-7 hrs on its battery?
My T480 has a very worn out battery and lasts about 2-3 hours. A new one should last about 7 hours.
Good Review 🎉
Will this be fine with a lightweight linux distro for programming (computer science engineering)? I think it should be. I only plan to use it for classes and exams since I already have a beast computer.
Yes, the T480 will work great with Linux! Thinkpads generally have great Linux compatibility.
@@benchmarks31 thanks!
Can I code on VS and play the yt videos at fhd at same time without any issue ??
Should be fine, but it will depend on the complexity of your code.
Can someone help me where I can buy this Thinkpad T480?
Pls suggest..which one is better for coding practice T480 or T490? Waiting for your reply..thank you
The T480 has two RAM slots and Power Bridge. The T490 doesn't offer any improvements. Both models use Intel's 8th generation processors. So in my opinion the choice is simple - the T480.
Will be usable for another 10 years. Other planned obsolescence laptop like MacBook Air M1 only last 3 years that is if a soldered SSD doesn’t die first lol
amazing review
How about compared to T490? I'm confused which one to choose 😅
yesss pls
t480 was the last decent Thinkpad in the txx0 lineup
The ones have soldered ram and shit yk
@@Zeroneii3when everyone says the t480 is the last great thinkpad, does that also apply to the t480s? thinking of getting one
@@Shtedko The t480s doesn't have powerbridge and it's ram is soldered
The t480 was the last great traditional Thinkpad
There's still a couple modern Thinkpads that are decent but have a couple of the traditional Thinkpad features removed
@@Zeroneii3 Im wondering which one i should get rn. The options are two:
T480 i5-8250U 32 gig ram UHD 620
T480S i7-8650U 24 gig ram UHD 620
Price is pretty much the same.
I think specs wise the t480s is better and the second heatsink is nice too.
However im a little sceptical about the battery as its a used laptop, but I do have a decent 72 Wh battery that I could easily put on the T480. Both got pros and cons🤷♂️
So, im getting refurbished laptop for school cause its cheaper. Is the T480 a better pick then the X390? They are both similar specs, different ports.
It depends on your preferences. The X390 is basically a 13-inch T490. However, it is important to note that the X390 has RAM soldered in, so it is not easy to upgrade.
@benchmarks31 thanks. Sadly I had to get the x390 yoga instead of the t480. I still think it should be alright for what I have to do. It's also just temporary (at least that's what I'm telling myself)
X390 Yoga is a great laptop! I have X1 Yoga 1st gen (i5 6th gen) and it is a great laptop for browsing the internet and watching YT.
@benchmarks31 so (random question) would it be better to keep windows 10 pro on this x390 yoga? Or should I update to the more demanding windows 11? Where this has only 8gb ram I'm worried about the functionality if I need more demanding things to be ran.
It depends a lot on your preferences. However, considering your X390 only has 8GB of RAM, I would suggest sticking with Windows 10.
Very appreciable
can u do rhe comparison with n100?
Anyone owning this laptop had problems with overheating? Even when runing things like Photoshop or classic WoW my would turn into a jet engine that burns on touch..
is there a great difference between t480 and t480s
Yes its T 480s is a low end Slim model of T 480 has soldered ram and smaller battery.
Please benchmark on x390
Am bying this laptop for skl and roblox
I have FHD touchscreen model T480 20L6. I just do not like brightness 250 nits. Friends, on which model screen I can replace it for more brightness screen?
The brightest screen for the T480 is the WQHD one. Its brightness is 300 nits.
@@benchmarks31 thanks for reply
@@МелашРо innolux 400 nits
@@МелашРоthere are folks that have documented upgrading the screen to even a 4k 500 nit model. Just gotta search around, reddit is a decent place to start.
damnn finally someone test the sims 4🙏🙏
Does the a485 have better benchmark?
A485 can outperform the T480 in benchmarks, but it depends on the specific configuration. For example, the ThinkPad A485 with Ryzen 5 2500U has a Cinebench R23 score very close to the i5-8250U, but its RX Vega 8 iGPU scores about 104% higher in 3DMark Fire Strike. This means the A485 with R5 2500U will have better gaming performance than the T480 with i5-8250U and UHD 620.
So i don't really know shit about laptop so can someone tell me is this good for basic gaming like roblox?
The T480 will easily handle lighter games like Roblox or Minecraft
@@benchmarks31 thanks
@@benchmarks31 hey do you have any idea how much fps it does on roblox?
If I buy t470 i5 7 gen or i7 7 gen will be better
7th gen only has 2 cores/4 threads. Look for T480 with 8th gen i5 which has 4 cores and 8 threads.
Next l580 plsss
watching on an E570
is this AI generated?
Yes it is. ElevenLabs AI
can you do to thinkpad x280 also?
AI script before GTA VI
a280 next