Fr tho, honestly she needs to cut anyone out of her life who tried to downplay how she felt and tried to convince her to not break up with him. The good people are the ones who support her decision whether she decided to break up with him or not.
@FKKTruthahn that was bad, but in his defense it wasn't pose to go like that. Like it was supposed to be a silly thing not literally scare the pee outta her.
@dianaclark3916 he's mentally abusive He was cold kicked her out of their home no real explanation just told her he didn't love her anymore and didn't want to be with her. Not only that he had their friends in on it and what this girl feeling emotionally tortured. Now that she didn't just jump up d down and run right to his arms he's going to bully her as well as her " friends" are bulling her as well.
Story 2. Nah. I get op from being hurt about the vacation. The friends have every right to have a calm and enjoyable vacation without constantly being on edge that a child is going to throw a tantrum if they go anywhere.
S1- that is a disgusting "prank" and its good for OP to leave him. Those friends are crappy too. S2- i get why OP'S feelings are hurt, but the friends did nothing wrong. They deserve to have a peaceful vacation and not have to walk on eggshells, and i think OP needs to acknowledge that and acknowledge his failings/part to play in the whole thing. S3- MiL is terrible and needs to be kept far FAR away from the family. I'm glad the husband finally escaped the fog and got a new shiny spine!
The second story reminds me of another one we had recently where a guy was told a cruise would be his honeymoon but in reality is mom and sister forced him to babysit a woman the mom took care of that was special needs. OP2 wanted his friends and their kids to babysit his kid for free so he could relax.
Story 2: i'm sorry OP, but they are vacationing and they definitly didn't tell you all inconveniences. They do deserve to relax and not have to consider others during said vacations. They were nice and tried multiple years. They have no responsibility towards you and you need to accept that
I will stand on this, unless there is an agreement of sorts that pranks are an implicit part of a friendship they are a sadism tolerance test. It will not get better from there. You do not want to pull one on me. I will retaliate by becoming a ghost, I will perform self imposed witness protection. I will fall off the edge of the earth. Why? If someone is that messed up they will manipulate the crap out of you.
An actually funny prank doesn’t hurt or cause anxiety for the one who was pranked. When I was 8, staying with my grandparents over April Fool’s, i switched the bags of cereal into the others’ cereal box. So when my grandmother pored out her shredded wheat, she got Raisin Bran. And my grandfather had the opposite. No harm to either. They thought it was clever. My stepfather had his own lawn-care business with a separate phone line (this was the 90’s). Over the course of, like, three years I called the number, maybe four or five times, and left a message impersonating an old man saying I’d like an estimate… and give our main phone number. No one was hurt. In fact, he was more impressed that I could impersonate an old man so well at the age of 11 or 12. Those were PRANKS. Hiding someone’s keys isn’t a prank, it’s cruelty. Telling someone you don’t love them isn’t a prank, it’s cruelty. Telling someone their loved one died isn’t a prank, it’s cruelty. If you find pleasure in the pain of someone else, you need psychiatric help. -- If the XBF immediately realized how badly he f*cked up and started apologizing on his hands and knees, maaaaaaaaybe he could have salvaged the relationship.
S1: OP's heart was broken in those days in an abrupt way that most people take a long time to recover from and some need therapy. Stupid prank. S3: was frustrating to listen to.
Story 2: I don’t think the friends are wrong for not wanting the kid there, but then why did they invite them for four years straight. Of course it’s going to be hurtful if after four years, they just changed their minds
I feel like the friends initially wanted to be supportive, and were hoping it’d get better next year, but the drama they expressed indicated it had not and just reached a point where they wanted to prevent things getting worse if they continued to invite them.
S2: Sorry none of y’all heard of the act of compromise? Let’s be frank for a minute, no they don’t have to accept OP’s kid everywhere they go HOWEVER The fact that the ordeal became a matter of all or nothing shows a lack of compromise, that’s the thing that turns this from just them not wanting to deal w that on vacation to not wanting OP and his kid around No you don’t have to compromise no you don’t HAVE to do anything, but all these friends don’t HAVE to take vacation together and yet they still do because they want to, What they don’t WANT is to be around Op’s family, and while they’re allowed to make that choice, op is allowed to be pissed about it and disagree You absolutely have a right to exclude someone you’re uncomfortable with, but that doesn’t make it any the less hurtful. Especially if you don’t try to find a middle ground when this person wants to be a part of your event and included No OP isn’t owed anything, but if this guys your friend you’d find a compromise
You have A point but imagine doing that for years and years you get annoyed and tired real quick after always having to sacrifice for someone else. Its a vacation you go on those to relax not be on edge and worry about if someone will ruin everyone experience because of what they want. I think ita fair to feel and think both ways but you as the person who needs to be accommodated for should also be more courteous to your friends.
@ lemme make it simple for you then, If you want to relax your way, go take your own vacation!! You’re on a group trip, some consideration is gonna be made for the fact it’s a group not and individual, Again it’s a group trip not a personal trip, if you want that person part of the group you’d make a compromise, Gamer no one’s writing off the on edge part but it’s a mute point to argue your personal wants on a trip of several people, if you don’t wanna worry about other ppl on vacation take a solo trip, otherwise don’t complain
@ lemme make it simple for you then, If you want to relax your way, go take your own vacation!! You’re on a group trip, some consideration is gonna be made for the fact it’s a group not and individual, Again it’s a group trip not a personal trip, if you want that person part of the group you’d make a compromise, Gamer no one’s writing off the on edge part but it’s a mute point to argue your personal wants on a trip of several people, if you don’t wanna worry about other ppl on vacation take a solo trip, otherwise don’t complain
S2: Talk about an awkward situation. However, I am a little surprised that they originally decided to vacation with quite so many families/people in the first place, considering their son’s autism. I’d think that maybe you attempt a joint break with just one additional family and see how it goes. You’d want to find a dynamic that is compatible for your son and those you are with. Having some time away from that crowd is likely for the best at this point. Although they ought to confront the parents of the girl that is particularly rude, as it’s highly possible she will come into contact with others who have autism, ADHD etc.
I just can't help but wonder if the teenager was really rude or did she just correct him when he crossed a boundary. I know teenagers can be really rude its just how offended he is about the other families after 4 years of stressful vacations not wanting to have the same experience this year.
when the OP said "this is the only time me and my wife get "away" it made me think that when on the previous trips they had dumped the son on others, and last year the "rude teen" had enough and this year said "I am not going if that family are there"
@@juliearmfield2634 Yeah, and with us only getting a singular perspective we have to do some guesswork here. I doubt that she was rude or aggressive to him right out the gate on that first trip. It could be something which grew over time due to the inaction of the adults present. And she might also resent going on these big group vacations every year with kids she barely knows.
@@vaseline69 I could see that happening, even if unintentionally. I’m not a parent of an autistic child, but if I were I think I’d have arranged a meet-up before the vacation just to see how they all got along, you know? It seems like everybody got thrown in at the deep end; his son, these other families etc.
Story 1: A breakup prank for a surprise proposal?! He is dying of a brain tumour? That is the worst way to do a proposal
I think the 'kidnap and make her think she's going to be killed' prank into proposal is slightly worse
If not a brain tumor his parents must be brother/sister. 🤦
Fr tho, honestly she needs to cut anyone out of her life who tried to downplay how she felt and tried to convince her to not break up with him. The good people are the ones who support her decision whether she decided to break up with him or not.
@FKKTruthahn that was bad, but in his defense it wasn't pose to go like that. Like it was supposed to be a silly thing not literally scare the pee outta her.
@dianaclark3916 he's mentally abusive
He was cold kicked her out of their home no real explanation just told her he didn't love her anymore and didn't want to be with her.
Not only that he had their friends in on it and what this girl feeling emotionally tortured.
Now that she didn't just jump up d down and run right to his arms he's going to bully her as well as her " friends" are bulling her as well.
Story 2. Nah. I get op from being hurt about the vacation.
The friends have every right to have a calm and enjoyable vacation without constantly being on edge that a child is going to throw a tantrum if they go anywhere.
S1- that is a disgusting "prank" and its good for OP to leave him. Those friends are crappy too.
S2- i get why OP'S feelings are hurt, but the friends did nothing wrong. They deserve to have a peaceful vacation and not have to walk on eggshells, and i think OP needs to acknowledge that and acknowledge his failings/part to play in the whole thing.
S3- MiL is terrible and needs to be kept far FAR away from the family. I'm glad the husband finally escaped the fog and got a new shiny spine!
The second story reminds me of another one we had recently where a guy was told a cruise would be his honeymoon but in reality is mom and sister forced him to babysit a woman the mom took care of that was special needs.
OP2 wanted his friends and their kids to babysit his kid for free so he could relax.
STORY 2:
Its THEIR vacation they didn't singed off up this. And OP taking him out on everywhere.
Story 1. Why are we going through all the things it could be when we already know the answer?
It’s called Storytelling
So many 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩 op needs new friends
They probably got all into it and gave him suggestions on how to make the breakup scene real. Horrible friends.
I have the sensation they are behind the prank and the surprise proposal
Story 2: i'm sorry OP, but they are vacationing and they definitly didn't tell you all inconveniences. They do deserve to relax and not have to consider others during said vacations. They were nice and tried multiple years. They have no responsibility towards you and you need to accept that
I will stand on this, unless there is an agreement of sorts that pranks are an implicit part of a friendship they are a sadism tolerance test. It will not get better from there. You do not want to pull one on me. I will retaliate by becoming a ghost, I will perform self imposed witness protection. I will fall off the edge of the earth. Why? If someone is that messed up they will manipulate the crap out of you.
I agree.
An actually funny prank doesn’t hurt or cause anxiety for the one who was pranked. When I was 8, staying with my grandparents over April Fool’s, i switched the bags of cereal into the others’ cereal box. So when my grandmother pored out her shredded wheat, she got Raisin Bran. And my grandfather had the opposite. No harm to either. They thought it was clever. My stepfather had his own lawn-care business with a separate phone line (this was the 90’s). Over the course of, like, three years I called the number, maybe four or five times, and left a message impersonating an old man saying I’d like an estimate… and give our main phone number. No one was hurt. In fact, he was more impressed that I could impersonate an old man so well at the age of 11 or 12. Those were PRANKS. Hiding someone’s keys isn’t a prank, it’s cruelty. Telling someone you don’t love them isn’t a prank, it’s cruelty. Telling someone their loved one died isn’t a prank, it’s cruelty. If you find pleasure in the pain of someone else, you need psychiatric help.
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If the XBF immediately realized how badly he f*cked up and started apologizing on his hands and knees, maaaaaaaaybe he could have salvaged the relationship.
it stops being a prank after about 10 seconds. this is beyind cruel and unnecessary
S1: OP's heart was broken in those days in an abrupt way that most people take a long time to recover from and some need therapy. Stupid prank.
S3: was frustrating to listen to.
Story 1: XBF is so unbelievably dumb. Cruelty isn’t funny.
Being friends does not mean they have to take your family on vacation.
S2 doubting the magnitude of these "little" meltdowns. Situation sucks but groups not wrong.
S1: As much as I love Friends, this sounds like Chandler and Monica but the version of what would happen IRL.
Story 2: I don’t think the friends are wrong for not wanting the kid there, but then why did they invite them for four years straight.
Of course it’s going to be hurtful if after four years, they just changed their minds
I feel like the friends initially wanted to be supportive, and were hoping it’d get better next year, but the drama they expressed indicated it had not and just reached a point where they wanted to prevent things getting worse if they continued to invite them.
S2:
Sorry none of y’all heard of the act of compromise?
Let’s be frank for a minute, no they don’t have to accept OP’s kid everywhere they go
HOWEVER
The fact that the ordeal became a matter of all or nothing shows a lack of compromise, that’s the thing that turns this from just them not wanting to deal w that on vacation to not wanting OP and his kid around
No you don’t have to compromise no you don’t HAVE to do anything, but all these friends don’t HAVE to take vacation together and yet they still do because they want to,
What they don’t WANT is to be around Op’s family, and while they’re allowed to make that choice, op is allowed to be pissed about it and disagree
You absolutely have a right to exclude someone you’re uncomfortable with, but that doesn’t make it any the less hurtful. Especially if you don’t try to find a middle ground when this person wants to be a part of your event and included
No OP isn’t owed anything, but if this guys your friend you’d find a compromise
You have A point but imagine doing that for years and years you get annoyed and tired real quick after always having to sacrifice for someone else. Its a vacation you go on those to relax not be on edge and worry about if someone will ruin everyone experience because of what they want. I think ita fair to feel and think both ways but you as the person who needs to be accommodated for should also be more courteous to your friends.
@ lemme make it simple for you then,
If you want to relax your way, go take your own vacation!!
You’re on a group trip, some consideration is gonna be made for the fact it’s a group not and individual,
Again it’s a group trip not a personal trip, if you want that person part of the group you’d make a compromise,
Gamer no one’s writing off the on edge part but it’s a mute point to argue your personal wants on a trip of several people, if you don’t wanna worry about other ppl on vacation take a solo trip, otherwise don’t complain
@ lemme make it simple for you then,
If you want to relax your way, go take your own vacation!!
You’re on a group trip, some consideration is gonna be made for the fact it’s a group not and individual,
Again it’s a group trip not a personal trip, if you want that person part of the group you’d make a compromise,
Gamer no one’s writing off the on edge part but it’s a mute point to argue your personal wants on a trip of several people, if you don’t wanna worry about other ppl on vacation take a solo trip, otherwise don’t complain
@@ryancamara5689 i get your point. I still don't fully agree with the statement.
Story 1: WTF???
S2: Talk about an awkward situation. However, I am a little surprised that they originally decided to vacation with quite so many families/people in the first place, considering their son’s autism. I’d think that maybe you attempt a joint break with just one additional family and see how it goes. You’d want to find a dynamic that is compatible for your son and those you are with.
Having some time away from that crowd is likely for the best at this point. Although they ought to confront the parents of the girl that is particularly rude, as it’s highly possible she will come into contact with others who have autism, ADHD etc.
I just can't help but wonder if the teenager was really rude or did she just correct him when he crossed a boundary.
I know teenagers can be really rude its just how offended he is about the other families after 4 years of stressful vacations not wanting to have the same experience this year.
when the OP said "this is the only time me and my wife get "away" it made me think that when on the previous trips they had dumped the son on others, and last year the "rude teen" had enough and this year said "I am not going if that family are there"
@@vaseline69 probably
@@juliearmfield2634 Yeah, and with us only getting a singular perspective we have to do some guesswork here. I doubt that she was rude or aggressive to him right out the gate on that first trip. It could be something which grew over time due to the inaction of the adults present. And she might also resent going on these big group vacations every year with kids she barely knows.
@@vaseline69 I could see that happening, even if unintentionally.
I’m not a parent of an autistic child, but if I were I think I’d have arranged a meet-up before the vacation just to see how they all got along, you know? It seems like everybody got thrown in at the deep end; his son, these other families etc.