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Good Points. A few other thoughts... 1. There's no biblical evidence to indicate that Abram's "tithe" was systematic per God's requirement. However, there's other historical evidence that it was the custom of the land to submit 10% of the spoils of war to the ruler(s) of that land after a battle (like a tax). Melchizedek was the King of Salem. Although it's reasonable to assume Abram's gift was an honorarium of sorts, it's questionable how much emphasis can be placed on his gift since Abram ended up giving the remaining portions away to others as well. 2. There's no biblical evidence Jacob ever actually submitted a tithe. He simply made a contingent offer to do so IF God provided for him as he specified. This serves as credible evidence that God did not require a tithe at this point or prior. 3. There were actually 4 tithes under Mosaic Law and every tithe deliverable had to be a consumable item such as produce or livestock from within Israel. The Levitical tithe (annual), the tithe of the Levitical tithe that went to the Levitical Priests, the poor tithe (every three years), and the tithe of the festival (annual). All tithe deliverables were to be consumed by the recipient and/or the tither. None of it was received as money. 4. Biblical, systematic tithing was not purposed for evangelism. It was purposed to support the Levitical Government, the atonement system at that time, for the poor, and to be consumed at the festival. 5. Biblical, systematic tithing was facilitated through ceremonial and civil ordinances that required tithe submissions. So biblical, systematic tithes cannot be considered gifts or a form of "giving". The ordinances that facilitated tithing under Mosaic Law are now obsolete. We are free to give as we are able and as we are convicted to do so, money or otherwise, but we are not biblically bound to pay money to a religious institution or anywhere else. Blessings in your giving.
Thanks brother🙏🙌, im a bit disappointed to see this message being preached without ALL of the context being explained and understood ! Amazing how christians can take old testament principles (that were not even ordained by God nor were they acknowledged by the new testament apostles) and say it applies to our New testament Life
Furthermore we preach that he is a God of more then enough, yet the bible in multiple instances preach otherwise, One example of the apostles lifestyle could also be 1 corinthians 4:11 Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace; God does not care about our money, but he does care about our Self control/Greed, because this is what feeds our soul, He cares about us making it to heaven, THAT IS ALL Sadly This message was out of context,
Loved this thread of comments. IMO Best part of this sermon was from 19:19 to 20:00, those 41 seconds were gold. In essence most of the giving that Jesus challenged for disciples to make did not go to ministry, it went to the poor. He (Jesus) didn’t try to enrich His ministry, He tried to enrich their spiritual experience by making them into Disciples. I once heard it said that Christlike Love for the one you are with is a key to discipleship, I took that to mean taking the time to actually love and care for the people God puts all around me first, be that through time spent with them, listening, encouraging, praying for them, or as prompted financially aiding them. I have been guilty of giving just to “check the tithing box” or seeking out a far away cause for a person in need when I am neglecting my next door neighbor or coworker who may be spiritually, emotionally, or even at times financially bankrupt. I still have a long way to go, but pray The Lord Jesus will fill me with His Grace lead me along to becoming a true disciple of His in my heart however He wants that to show up in life as He has already purchased me 100% through His precious blood and perfect life He freely gave for me a sinner, Praise God.
Explain Malachi 3:8 This says yes to tithing This is the new testament God doesnt change Neither does his word... His word is yes and amen Im going to tithe No matter who preaches
Jesus was the end of the law… BECAUSE he fulfilled it! HOW???? By LOVE! Romans 13 says the law therefore is fulfilled by love. So…. The early church became established in love…whether it was in giving, helping, sharing, sacrificing, etc. Christians, therefore, are to become so rich in God’s LOVE ❤️, that they give…NOT because it’s a rule--but because the Love of God has been shed abroad in their hearts 🥰!! The apostles asked the people to share with each other out of compassion. Whether it was helping the ministers or the congregation.. God’s people are becoming like Christ Jesus being transformed out of old selfish ways and into the image of Christ- dead to selfishness. Full of love! If we surrender! Jesus said, “ I am the true Vine, and you are the branches (IF) you stay abiding in me.” True giving isn’t a rule that’s followed… it’s a condition of the heart! Where those who have Jesus really living in them DESIRE to give and help others, because they’re connected to the Living Vine, Christ, himself. Who is Love in Action! The entire reason Ananias and Saphira were struck dead was because they were acting like giving was being forced on them, which was a lie, so they lied about the amount they made on the sell of their house… Apostle Peter clearly said why’d you lie-after all, it was [in your power] ( meaning your choice) whether to sell it or not and give. Nothing was being forced! No rules in giving! It was to be done with love from the heart as free will. God wasn’t about to let the beginning of the New Testament church start out with that lie! Thank God! God said our faith is totally wrapped up in Christ’s sacrifice on the cross, his example of sacrificial love, his inner workings of compassion in our hearts, and his inner power to change our hearts and desires through his goodness towards us. New Creatures in Christ being born again in him. We give, whether to preachers, other believers, or whomever only because of true Godly love! If we don’t give, then we need to draw closer to the living Vine and get our hearts and our minds United with Jesus, our gigantic loving Savior who gave up everything for us because he loves us that much, so his kind of love will rub off on us. Then giving will become a joyful act, and not just some rule people follow. That’s God’s perfect will. Shockingly, Apostle Paul didn’t even ask for money, because he didn’t want to take the chance on the gospel being evil spoken of. So he worked hard, and trusted God to supply his needs. Sure enough.. loving Christians gave to him at times, though he never asked. Yep! God is good!
Unlike the OT, money given to the 'congregation' is given to the poorest in the group. Ro:13:6: For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. Lu:3:14: And the soldiers likewise demanded of him, saying, And what shall we do? And he said unto them, Do violence to no man, neither accuse any falsely; and be content with your wages. Jas:2:14-17: What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
If you tithe to be in Gods favour you cannot be under grace. And it's by grace we are saved. You come into and under the grace of God, that is His favour and empowering, through faith in Jesus .... never through your work whether tithing or anything.
I can't afford my tithe and a Jewish accountant, tribe of Aaron told me that. He said tithing is for helping the poor and you are poor and it's for Jews and you are not a Jew ....
Tithing has become prideful and condemning thing in the church. Really really look at the concept of tithing in the church today. It's a "Look at me.. I tithed.. I did my good deed before the Lord.. I'm not cursed with a curse!!".... Now, tell me about the little widow and the only mite she had to give??.. She gave out of obedience, sacrifice, willingness, and a cheerful heart!!... Did God curse her? No! Giving our best and out of sacifice changes us!!
First few sentences is an error already. Jesus endorses the tithe in Matt 23:23 "these things (tithing) you ought to have done" he didnt say do without. Tithing and Giving are 2 seperate things and cannot be substituted for one another.
Concerning giving, or tithing, or prosperity, Malachi 3:8-12 is, indeed, not the full counsel of God. It is an excerpt, quoted to the church for centuries (believe it or not), which is a misrepresentation of God's counsel. We've accepted it because that's what we have always been taught. Here are a few points to consider. -- Who did God appoint to receive tithes? God said, "And, behold, I have given the children of Levi all the tenth [the tithe] in Israel for an inheritance, for their service which they serve, even the service of the tabernacle of the congregation (Numbers 18:21-23). In this scripture, God established who receives the tithe (the Levites), and why they received it (they received no inheritance, and they served in the temple). This assignment is exclusive to Levites. A pastor cannot assume this assignment, he has never been scripturally assigned by God to collect tithes, he is not a Levite. In that same sense, only a Levite, never a pastor, could ever serve in a Jewish temple. The church has not replaced the Jewish temple, and pastors have not replaced Levites. -- People are blessed when they give, not because of Malachi 3, which is based on the Law of Moses, an Old Testament law that has been replaced by Grace under Christ, at the cross. They are blessed because Jesus said, "Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you" (Luke 6:38). It is this principle of giving and receiving at work, when we give and are blessed. Not the expired law of tithing, which was required of the Jews (never Gentiles), and could only be received by Levite priests because they received no inheritance and were set apart to work fully in the Jewish temple. -- There is much more to this, such as Abraham's tithe to Melchizedek, Jacob's promise to tithe, the history of when and why the New Testament church tithes (there is actually a date!), and the scriptures that speak to these issues. To be clear, every pastor has a right to collect offerings in support of the ministry; I fully agree with supporting the church financially. But our giving must be godly. It is wrong to require people to tithe, contrary to the scriptures, then say that we live according to the scriptures. Four biblical truths, regarding tithing: (1) There is no scripture that authorizes anyone but a Levite to receive tithes. (2) There is no scripture that authorizes a pastor to receive tithes. (3) There is no scripture that requires a Gentile to tithe. (4) There is no scripture that requires the church to tithe. If you're interested in learning more, check out "Tither, You Are Free!", available on Amazon. Blessings to you and your ministry!
Let's get something straight, the Bible says only 1/3 of the Israelites were required to give a tithe, and it was a Food Tithe, not a money tithe to feed the priests. 2/3 of Israel was exempt of giving. It really helps when you read and study the Bible. They gave back then because they were required to, but in the New Testament under the New Covenant there is no giving to the Tabernacle because it was done away with by our Lord God. See Hebrews 8:13 The old covenant was done away with because it was old and obsolete and outdated. The New Covenant is Grace and that's all Paul spoke about. Speaking of Paul, Paul said in 2 Corinthians 2:17 Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit. When Jesus sent out the 12 He said in Matt 10:8 Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give. No where in scripture did Jesus, the Disciples or Apostles ever pass an offering plate and then keep the money for themselves. These pastors and tv preachers of today do the opposite of what the Bible says by using God to get gain. They would rather sit on their rearends and let people bring them free money every week, than get out in the public and work with their hands like Paul said he did to make his living. No where in the New Testament did Jesus, the Disciples and Apostles ever teach to build a building and call it a church, nor did they teach to hold elections for a pastor for said church, nor did they teach to pass an offering plate and keep the money to pay for the building and the pastor, nor did they teach and practice a money tithe system EVER! Jesus, the Disciples and Apostles warned us again, and again, and again that in the last days many false teachers would come and make merchandise of the people, and that's exactly what the wolves are doing today. The pastors and tv preachers are making big money off the people all in the name of our Lord God. I've been a pastor for many years and NEVER received a dime for telling people about Jesus. Shame on these people that won't do what the Bible teaches. People, think about this, especially all you pastors; you mean to tell me you won't share Jesus with someone unless they pay you? When you talk to someone about Jesus, do you hold out your hand afterward and say now you owe me, GIVE? Ok, let me get this straight, Jesus gave His life in payment for our sins, to give us freedom and eternal life, while you pastors and tv preachers are collecting money and accepting payment for something you didn't do? WOW!!!
Sacrificial giving is not measured by the amount but by its impact - how it costs you. Thus, we can't compare the $100.00 provided by this person as better than the $10.00 provided by others.
Struggle with ministries and ministers connected to Benny Hinn who talk about money in this way. There seems to be a subtle fixation with money in Vlad's ministry although he's very Biblically sound on other topics. Red flag. Paul said we should decide for ourselves and give joyfully; it isn't a legalistic requirement.
Also to give to support the preachers of the gospel ...Reference 1 Corinthians chapter 9...the Lord has ordained that they who preach the gospel should live of the gospel.
Yes we are, well I believe we are for it is in the bible and so is paying taxes. So basically, the first 500 years in the New Millinia I will be paying off my debt. Catching up at least,... At least that is how I interpret it. Romans 13:1-7 with 7 being it and Honor being my Church. KJV
I will save you the trouble of listening to all this. The answer is NO. Everything belongs to God. We are just caretakers. Simply give as the Spirit leads you. Most of the time it will not be to an organization, it will be to those around you. I use this principal. Family first. Loved ones next. Community after that. Organizations last. All are important but most churches use the reverse order.
Wonderfully and simply stated, thank you for your comment! IMO Best part of this sermon was from 19:19 to 20:00, those 41 seconds were gold. In essence most of the giving that Jesus challenged for disciples to make did not go to ministry, it went to the poor. He (Jesus) didn’t try to enrich His ministry, He tried to enrich their spiritual experience by making them into Disciples. I once heard it said that Christlike Love for the one you are with is a key to discipleship, I took that to mean taking the time to actually love and care for the people God puts all around me first, be that through time spent with them, listening, encouraging, praying for them, or as prompted financially aiding them. I have been guilty of giving just to “check the tithing box” or seeking out a far away cause for a person in need when I am neglecting my next door neighbor or coworker who may be spiritually, emotionally, or even at times financially bankrupt. I still have a long way to go, but pray The Lord Jesus will fill me with His Grace lead me along to becoming a true disciple of His in my heart however He wants that to show up in life as He has already purchased me 100% through His precious blood and perfect life He freely gave for me a sinner, Praise God!
That’s the one thing I don’t like about churches when they REQUIRE you to tithe in order to be a member, or guilt people into giving to the church. I give to homeless people or backslidden friends or just people in need more than I give to my church (financially anyway, I give a huge part of my heart and time to the church) and I think God is ok with that.
Another way to talk the sheep into giving up their money. This guy gets paid big bucks... Dude, I am not your disciple or your student. Who discipled you vlad?.
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You pastors don't seem to want to leave your life and go preach like the disciples did! All you want to do is collect for your personal gain not for the poor and needy or the hungry! There is absolutely no need to tithe to any church to any rich pastor!
Tithing was already emphasized in the Old Testament. It was mentioned also in the New Testament as giving. Jesus commanded Peter to feed the sheep or God's people and this commandment means work. There is no God's work in this planet except to share the Gospel to the lost world. And this is where the idea of church was born. Most churches are led by a pastor. Sadly, more pastors are engaged in prosperity gospel: luxurious lifestyle, acquiring more lands and constructing big buildings, which are very expensive to maintain, rather than sending more missionaries to different parts of the world to find the lost sheeps. This way, churches are scrambling for financial resources resorting to extorsion from members in the form of tithes and offerings.
wow thank you for this amazing sermon!! I literally have been so confused about tithing... and felt so guilty for not tithing 10% 😪 Holy Spirit led me to this sermon. I really enjoy your preaching!
@@faranaazroode7758 , Abel and Cain gave their first to God. That was well before the "Law". And remember what Jesus said in Matthew 5:17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Malachi 3 - what the whole chapter expresses - is important - it has a lot of prophetic wording. It's interesting, that it is not uncommon for people to refer to the Old Testament regarding the prophetic and in support of that prophetic message but then when it comes to tithing and offering, some have chosen to see it as Old Testament and dismissed it for a time. I even did so for a time, until God helped me to realize better. But, do they really think it's not important or is it just more fleshly convenient for them to contribute what is supposed to be the tithe, to a more fleshly comfortable lifestyle - paying for fleshly wants instead of what they could be satisfied with after submitting the tithe and offering
He didn't. The narrative in the book of Malachi was confined within Israel and further narrowed towards the Levitical Priests. Biblical, systematic tithing had nothing to do with paying 10% of earned wages to a religious institution.
@@elwingw4321Exactly thank you! It was for the Levitical priest in Malachi but the church does do the research to understand who that chapter in Malachi was referring too just as you said. Giving to the poor is first for me, then to ministry. I’ve seen God bless me when I started giving to the poor first, then support ministries.
The Lord never changes His mind about anything. I tithe the Lords holy portion, that cursed thing placed under the ban. And yes tithing is in the new test. I'm careful to tithe His tithe to ministries that are not afraid to preach against sexual sin and perversion, etc. and yes I studied it even in Greek and Hebrew. Jesus even said to the leaders they should have excercized compassion and mercy, while continuing to tithe.
Amanda you're right that where we read that is in what we call the new testament but Jesus was speaking to people in that time under the old covenant who were required to tithe. If you tithe to be in God's favour, then you're trusting in, believing in, your tithe .... you're not fully trusting in Jesus ..... trusting in Jesus is how we truly come onto God's favour .... then we can truly give freely because we trust in our Father in heaven looking after us. With love sis .... God forgive us and we come into His love through Jesus only. If we think we also have to tithe then we actually stop ourselves from being under grace ..... we've gone back to law. See further the book of Galatians and Romans
Paul preached giving and receiving not tithing❤Paul gave his life and all to Jesus and the work of the ministry🔥. Let’s strive to give above 10% by the measure of the grace we’ve received
THE QUESTION IS Jesus cannot demand for tithe because he is not a levite and it will be unlawful for him to demand and collect tithe. Is Yehodhua now turned to a Hero of rebellion against the law of Lord God Yehovah the covenant Lawgiver. Is the God of christians the same Lord God Yehovah the covenant lawgiver or another God since Yehovah the God, lord, king, lawgiver Judge, creator, Father and Savior that commanded tithing is a person not a trinity. Are christians people of Lord God Yehovah the Lawgiver? Are christians obedient to the voice of Lord God Yehovah the lawgiver? Are christians submissive to Lord God Yehovah the Lawgiver Are christians followers of Lord God Yehovah the Lawgiver? Jesus cannot collect tithe because he is not a levite. Abraham was not commanded to give tithe to Melchizedek but out of his own volition
I DIDN'T HEAR ANY BIBLE REFERENCES USED AS YOU TALKED ABOUT YOUR SUBJECTS. STUDY MY POINT ON THITING... TITHING IS ONLY FOR THE 11 TRIBES AND IS NOT APPLICABLE TO CHRISTIANS. SEACH THIS TO SET YOU FREE.
G-o-d is the false mighty one of prosperity, warned against in Isaiah 65:11-12. I am BNY YSHRAL- aren't you grafted into the Tree of YSHRAL, which is the Messiah. The Tree is the NTSR, and those who follow Him are NTSRYM. Those tithing to G-o-d are stealing the tithe. The Name of the Mighty One of YSHRAL is Hayah asher Hayah. I tithe because ABRaHM tithed to MLK TSDQ (King Righteous).
I could not see Jesus preaching the same message Vlad is teaching and Jesus is God and "had no place to lay His head". Woe to the extortioners who guilt for money. Their day is coming says God.
Missions,descipleships and ministries can be supported by only by giving Cheerfully and reluctantly for giving has no amount required but it depending on the desire of your heart.
Tithing is a principal, and it did not die in the Old Testament. The difference is it is not a requirement nor will it bring a curse if you don’t. On the other hand it may feel like a curse because you missed the blessing in it. That’s why when Jesus was asked about it He simply said “You should tithe”. Tithing is the greatest opportunity to live under God’s open Heaven of blessings and the only time God says “Prove Me”! Or in other words, “Come on, put me to the test on this” (Malachi 3:10-12). Well I can testify of the many times I have found myself in a situation where I was out of solutions and had to run to the Father and declare back to Him what He gave me permission to prove Him on - “Father, I am a tither and a giver and in doing so your word says YOU will rebuke the devourer for my sake. Therefore my finances, my health, my home, my wealth (etc.) will NOT be devoured, and blessings are pouring through the windows of Heaven that I stand ready to receive and bless others with the overflow.” I tell you EVERY single time that I have proven Him, His word has NEVER returned void. So instead of worrying about robbing God, just don’t let the enemy rob you of this powerful principle that God still honors today. Beloveds, Tithing will bless your life 🙏🏽😇❣️
Tithing was under the Mosaic law, Christ has set us free from the law, sin and death through His precious blood. I'm no longer under the curse of the law, but am saved by His grace through faith hallelujah. Being a disciple is the real answer to giving to God's work. Read Gal. 3:10-14.
@@ralvinwestbrook3370 Tithing existed before Moses was even born. It’s a principle, not a levitical law. However it was in use while Israel was under the law and it still is. You don’t “have” to tithe, you “get” to tithe! There’s not a Wall Street move out there that can out bless the tithe, because it comes with the Shalom of God, meaning peace & wholeness in every aspect of your life. I’m glad you believe I’m discipleship! It’s the last command Jesus gave and probably will be the first thing we’ll be judged on in eternity - did you go into all the world and make disciples. That’s good news 🙌🏽👍🏽
@@JourneyToMyDestiny Tithing as a TAX was given under Moses, that is an obligatory - you robbed God if you don't, the Tithe before Moses which was done by Abraham (one-time event) was done out freewill (not under compulsion) and thus can't be considered as Law-Tithing. So give like Abraham, not like those under Mozaic Law.
Hi their my dear sister, I just want to clear up the issue that Jesus supposedly told us to continue tithing now in the NT. Matt. 23:23 and Luke. 11:42 are scriptures the prosperity preachers and teachers love to use out of context. Jesus was rebuking the hypocrisy of of the Pharisees. They used paying their tithes (note: they payed their tithe with spices, farm produce and NOT MONEY!!!! why?) to quiten their conscience for not living as they aught to, the Lord set them straight for trying to hide behind their tithing rather than living a holy life. Why is the using of these scriptures out of context? Because during the time Jesus spoke to the Pharisees they were still under the Mosaic law of the Old Covernant of the OT and it was their duty to pay their farm produce "tithes". The NT began with Christ's resurrection. See what l mean, taken out of context? These are just two scriptures the "tithe" promoters love to twist to their advantage, they have a string of scriptures they use to "blind side" the masses. Now that we understand that Jesus did not order the NT believers to "tithe", not one of the Lord's disciples or the Apostles or any other follower of Jesus ever advocated the "tithe" in the NT. l find that rather strange after the all the billions have been made off the poor, ignorant and vulnerable folk, it is heart breaking. Here is another thing to ponder. Up until 700 years ad. the early church never "tithed", rather they gave from their hearts, not under compulsion but rather out of the motive of love. 700ad. the Roman Catholic church and discovered the financial aid benefit of up dating and changing the mediun of the "tithe" to money. They soon made the "tithe" compulsory. Anyone who never payed their "tithe" was anathema, kicked of the RCC and sent to hell. The Protestant churches soon caught the gravy train. The rest is history. So you see my sister the WHOLE NT TITHING is based on lies, extortion, fear, guilt and false promises. I certainly don't want you to stop giving to the Lord's work. But please don't give it because you you HAVE TO but, rather out of your love for the Lord according to what the Lord lays on your heart. The word TITHING carries with it a stigma of the Mosaic law, fear, guilt and curse from from the OT. We are no longer under the OT and the 613 laws, praise God we are under the Lord's marvelous GRACE.
@@ralvinwestbrook3370 There is no mention of tithing being paid by the Saints in the New Testament because they gave MUCH more than a tenth (see Acts 2:44) and had all things in common, i.e., they sold ALL they had and gave it to the church. No where does it say that the principal of tithing is no longer in effect. It always has been. But - the ONLY way you can know for sure is to do what God challenged in Malachi and “Test Me”, saith the Lord - and see if He won’t rebuke the devourer of your health, finances, marriage, ministry, etc. He has come through for me too many times with His promise when there was no way out, and opened the windows of Heaven over me and supernaturally blessed me to the overflow. Now of course, it’s not a salvation requirement, so to each his own. But you couldn’t pay me “not” to tithe! It wasn’t just under the law, it was and is a promise and a principal. Shalom.
The mission of Christ in no way is dependent upon or held back by money. Jesus taught this valuable lesson when He sent His disciples out with nothing. He had them depend 100% on Him.
@@stevenklinkhamer9069, Jesus said He didn't come to abolish the law but to uphold. Tithing has been a "thing" since Cain and Abel. The apostles are not the creators. Ill listen to God, thx.
The book of Malachi is the last book of the Old Testament and the tithe indictments in chapter 3 can't be universally applied either historically or currently.
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He just said tithing makes no point but his demonic church is always bugging me almost everyday for money on Instagram
@@john.3.5He's demonic and refuses to work like Bible says to !
Support Yourself and WORK or Don't eat, like God's Holy Word says !
Good Points. A few other thoughts...
1. There's no biblical evidence to indicate that Abram's "tithe" was systematic per God's requirement. However, there's other historical evidence that it was the custom of the land to submit 10% of the spoils of war to the ruler(s) of that land after a battle (like a tax). Melchizedek was the King of Salem. Although it's reasonable to assume Abram's gift was an honorarium of sorts, it's questionable how much emphasis can be placed on his gift since Abram ended up giving the remaining portions away to others as well.
2. There's no biblical evidence Jacob ever actually submitted a tithe. He simply made a contingent offer to do so IF God provided for him as he specified. This serves as credible evidence that God did not require a tithe at this point or prior.
3. There were actually 4 tithes under Mosaic Law and every tithe deliverable had to be a consumable item such as produce or livestock from within Israel. The Levitical tithe (annual), the tithe of the Levitical tithe that went to the Levitical Priests, the poor tithe (every three years), and the tithe of the festival (annual). All tithe deliverables were to be consumed by the recipient and/or the tither. None of it was received as money.
4. Biblical, systematic tithing was not purposed for evangelism. It was purposed to support the Levitical Government, the atonement system at that time, for the poor, and to be consumed at the festival.
5. Biblical, systematic tithing was facilitated through ceremonial and civil ordinances that required tithe submissions. So biblical, systematic tithes cannot be considered gifts or a form of "giving". The ordinances that facilitated tithing under Mosaic Law are now obsolete.
We are free to give as we are able and as we are convicted to do so, money or otherwise, but we are not biblically bound to pay money to a religious institution or anywhere else. Blessings in your giving.
Thanks brother🙏🙌, im a bit disappointed to see this message being preached without ALL of the context being explained and understood !
Amazing how christians can take old testament principles (that were not even ordained by God nor were they acknowledged by the new testament apostles) and say it applies to our New testament Life
Furthermore we preach that he is a God of more then enough, yet the bible in multiple instances preach otherwise,
One example of the apostles lifestyle could also be
1 corinthians 4:11 Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwellingplace;
God does not care about our money, but he does care about our Self control/Greed, because this is what feeds our soul,
He cares about us making it to heaven, THAT IS ALL
Sadly This message was out of context,
Thank you for taking the time to add this valuable input. 🙏🏻
Loved this thread of comments.
IMO Best part of this sermon was from 19:19 to 20:00, those 41 seconds were gold. In essence most of the giving that Jesus challenged for disciples to make did not go to ministry, it went to the poor. He (Jesus) didn’t try to enrich His ministry, He tried to enrich their spiritual experience by making them into Disciples.
I once heard it said that Christlike Love for the one you are with is a key to discipleship, I took that to mean taking the time to actually love and care for the people God puts all around me first, be that through time spent with them, listening, encouraging, praying for them, or as prompted financially aiding them.
I have been guilty of giving just to “check the tithing box” or seeking out a far away cause for a person in need when I am neglecting my next door neighbor or coworker who may be spiritually, emotionally, or even at times financially bankrupt. I still have a long way to go, but pray The Lord Jesus will fill me with His Grace lead me along to becoming a true disciple of His in my heart however He wants that to show up in life as He has already purchased me 100% through His precious blood and perfect life He freely gave for me a sinner, Praise God.
Explain Malachi 3:8
This says yes to tithing
This is the new testament
God doesnt change
Neither does his word...
His word is yes and amen
Im going to tithe
No matter who preaches
Jesus was the end of the law… BECAUSE he fulfilled it! HOW????
By LOVE!
Romans 13 says the law therefore is fulfilled by love.
So…. The early church became established in love…whether it was in giving, helping, sharing, sacrificing, etc.
Christians, therefore, are to become so rich in God’s LOVE ❤️, that they give…NOT because it’s a rule--but because the Love of God has been shed abroad in their hearts 🥰!!
The apostles asked the people to share with each other out of compassion. Whether it was helping the ministers or the congregation..
God’s people are becoming like Christ Jesus being transformed out of old selfish ways and into the image of Christ- dead to selfishness. Full of love! If we surrender!
Jesus said, “ I am the true Vine, and you are the branches (IF) you stay abiding in me.” True giving isn’t a rule that’s followed… it’s a condition of the heart! Where those who have Jesus really living in them DESIRE to give and help others, because they’re connected to the Living Vine, Christ, himself. Who is Love in Action! The entire reason Ananias and Saphira were struck dead was because they were acting like giving was being forced on them, which was a lie, so they lied about the amount they made on the sell of their house… Apostle Peter clearly said why’d you lie-after all, it was [in your power] ( meaning your choice) whether to sell it or not and give. Nothing was being forced! No rules in giving! It was to be done with love from the heart as free will. God wasn’t about to let the beginning of the New Testament church start out with that lie! Thank God! God said our faith is totally wrapped up in Christ’s sacrifice on the cross, his example of sacrificial love, his inner workings of compassion in our hearts, and his inner power to change our hearts and desires through his goodness towards us.
New Creatures in Christ being born again in him. We give, whether to preachers, other believers, or whomever only because of true Godly love! If we don’t give, then we need to draw closer to the living Vine and get our hearts and our minds United with Jesus, our gigantic loving Savior who gave up everything for us because he loves us that much, so his kind of love will rub off on us. Then giving will become a joyful act, and not just some rule people follow. That’s God’s perfect will. Shockingly, Apostle Paul didn’t even ask for money, because he didn’t want to take the chance on the gospel being evil spoken of. So he worked hard, and trusted God to supply his needs. Sure enough.. loving Christians gave to him at times, though he never asked. Yep! God is good!
Awesome
Unlike the OT, money given to the 'congregation' is given to the poorest in the group.
Ro:13:6:
For for this cause pay ye tribute also:
for they are God's ministers,
attending continually upon this very thing.
Lu:3:14:
And the soldiers likewise demanded of him,
saying,
And what shall we do?
And he said unto them,
Do violence to no man,
neither accuse any falsely;
and be content with your wages.
Jas:2:14-17:
What doth it profit,
my brethren,
though a man say he hath faith,
and have not works?
can faith save him?
If a brother or sister be naked,
and destitute of daily food,
And one of you say unto them,
Depart in peace,
be ye warmed and filled;
notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body;
what doth it profit?
Even so faith,
if it hath not works,
is dead,
being alone.
Please for your salvations sake do not tithe to be in Gads favour ..... trust in what Jesus, Gods chosen one, has done.
The Holy Spirit never leads to bankruptcy but to breakthroughs...
The Holy Spirit is not your financial guide, He is God.
If you tithe to be in Gods favour you cannot be under grace. And it's by grace we are saved.
You come into and under the grace of God, that is His favour and empowering, through faith in Jesus .... never through your work whether tithing or anything.
I can't afford my tithe and a Jewish accountant, tribe of Aaron told me that. He said tithing is for helping the poor and you are poor and it's for Jews and you are not a Jew ....
Wow. That's a compelling thought.
Tithing has become prideful and condemning thing in the church. Really really look at the concept of tithing in the church today. It's a "Look at me.. I tithed.. I did my good deed before the Lord.. I'm not cursed with a curse!!".... Now, tell me about the little widow and the only mite she had to give??.. She gave out of obedience, sacrifice, willingness, and a cheerful heart!!... Did God curse her? No! Giving our best and out of sacifice changes us!!
AMEN! God wants our WHOLE hearts not our full tithes.
Well Said!
Live by principles, lead by presence. Wow. Simple yet so powerful.
We are a new creation the old has gone the new is come..🔥
First few sentences is an error already. Jesus endorses the tithe in Matt 23:23 "these things (tithing) you ought to have done" he didnt say do without. Tithing and Giving are 2 seperate things and cannot be substituted for one another.
Concerning giving, or tithing, or prosperity, Malachi 3:8-12 is, indeed, not the full counsel of God. It is an excerpt, quoted to the church for centuries (believe it or not), which is a misrepresentation of God's counsel. We've accepted it because that's what we have always been taught. Here are a few points to consider.
-- Who did God appoint to receive tithes? God said, "And, behold, I have given the children of Levi all the tenth [the tithe] in Israel for an inheritance, for their service which they serve, even the service of the tabernacle of the congregation (Numbers 18:21-23). In this scripture, God established who receives the tithe (the Levites), and why they received it (they received no inheritance, and they served in the temple). This assignment is exclusive to Levites. A pastor cannot assume this assignment, he has never been scripturally assigned by God to collect tithes, he is not a Levite. In that same sense, only a Levite, never a pastor, could ever serve in a Jewish temple. The church has not replaced the Jewish temple, and pastors have not replaced Levites.
-- People are blessed when they give, not because of Malachi 3, which is based on the Law of Moses, an Old Testament law that has been replaced by Grace under Christ, at the cross. They are blessed because Jesus said, "Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you" (Luke 6:38). It is this principle of giving and receiving at work, when we give and are blessed. Not the expired law of tithing, which was required of the Jews (never Gentiles), and could only be received by Levite priests because they received no inheritance and were set apart to work fully in the Jewish temple.
-- There is much more to this, such as Abraham's tithe to Melchizedek, Jacob's promise to tithe, the history of when and why the New Testament church tithes (there is actually a date!), and the scriptures that speak to these issues. To be clear, every pastor has a right to collect offerings in support of the ministry; I fully agree with supporting the church financially. But our giving must be godly. It is wrong to require people to tithe, contrary to the scriptures, then say that we live according to the scriptures.
Four biblical truths, regarding tithing:
(1) There is no scripture that authorizes anyone but a Levite to receive tithes.
(2) There is no scripture that authorizes a pastor to receive tithes.
(3) There is no scripture that requires a Gentile to tithe.
(4) There is no scripture that requires the church to tithe.
If you're interested in learning more, check out "Tither, You Are Free!", available on Amazon. Blessings to you and your ministry!
Let's get something straight, the Bible says only 1/3 of the Israelites were required to give a tithe, and it was a Food Tithe, not a money tithe to feed the priests. 2/3 of Israel was exempt of giving. It really helps when you read and study the Bible. They gave back then because they were required to, but in the New Testament under the New Covenant there is no giving to the Tabernacle because it was done away with by our Lord God. See Hebrews 8:13 The old covenant was done away with because it was old and obsolete and outdated. The New Covenant is Grace and that's all Paul spoke about.
Speaking of Paul, Paul said in 2 Corinthians 2:17 Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit. When Jesus sent out the 12 He said in Matt 10:8 Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give. No where in scripture did Jesus, the Disciples or Apostles ever pass an offering plate and then keep the money for themselves. These pastors and tv preachers of today do the opposite of what the Bible says by using God to get gain. They would rather sit on their rearends and let people bring them free money every week, than get out in the public and work with their hands like Paul said he did to make his living.
No where in the New Testament did Jesus, the Disciples and Apostles ever teach to build a building and call it a church, nor did they teach to hold elections for a pastor for said church, nor did they teach to pass an offering plate and keep the money to pay for the building and the pastor, nor did they teach and practice a money tithe system EVER!
Jesus, the Disciples and Apostles warned us again, and again, and again that in the last days many false teachers would come and make merchandise of the people, and that's exactly what the wolves are doing today. The pastors and tv preachers are making big money off the people all in the name of our Lord God.
I've been a pastor for many years and NEVER received a dime for telling people about Jesus. Shame on these people that won't do what the Bible teaches. People, think about this, especially all you pastors; you mean to tell me you won't share Jesus with someone unless they pay you? When you talk to someone about Jesus, do you hold out your hand afterward and say now you owe me, GIVE? Ok, let me get this straight, Jesus gave His life in payment for our sins, to give us freedom and eternal life, while you pastors and tv preachers are collecting money and accepting payment for something you didn't do? WOW!!!
Sacrificial giving is not measured by the amount but by its impact - how it costs you. Thus, we can't compare the $100.00 provided by this person as better than the $10.00 provided by others.
Sacrificed to him... He makes big bucks... I wouldn't give him a dime.
Struggle with ministries and ministers connected to Benny Hinn who talk about money in this way. There seems to be a subtle fixation with money in Vlad's ministry although he's very Biblically sound on other topics. Red flag.
Paul said we should decide for ourselves and give joyfully; it isn't a legalistic requirement.
The Bible talks about giving money to the poor not to the church
I'm not going to lie I'm confused about this a bit but also the Sabbath being changed from Saturday to Sunday.
Also to give to support the preachers of the gospel ...Reference 1 Corinthians chapter 9...the Lord has ordained that they who preach the gospel should live of the gospel.
Nope. It clearly sayst to bring tithe into the storehouse.
Definitely not an exhaustive biblical thought.
and im not a hebrew under the law soooooooooooooooo....................@@frann166
Yes we are, well I believe we are for it is in the bible and so is paying taxes. So basically, the first 500 years in the New Millinia I will be paying off my debt. Catching up at least,... At least that is how I interpret it. Romans 13:1-7 with 7 being it and Honor being my Church. KJV
I will save you the trouble of listening to all this. The answer is NO. Everything belongs to God. We are just caretakers. Simply give as the Spirit leads you. Most of the time it will not be to an organization, it will be to those around you. I use this principal. Family first. Loved ones next. Community after that. Organizations last. All are important but most churches use the reverse order.
Wonderfully and simply stated, thank you for your comment!
IMO Best part of this sermon was from 19:19 to 20:00, those 41 seconds were gold. In essence most of the giving that Jesus challenged for disciples to make did not go to ministry, it went to the poor. He (Jesus) didn’t try to enrich His ministry, He tried to enrich their spiritual experience by making them into Disciples.
I once heard it said that Christlike Love for the one you are with is a key to discipleship, I took that to mean taking the time to actually love and care for the people God puts all around me first, be that through time spent with them, listening, encouraging, praying for them, or as prompted financially aiding them.
I have been guilty of giving just to “check the tithing box” or seeking out a far away cause for a person in need when I am neglecting my next door neighbor or coworker who may be spiritually, emotionally, or even at times financially bankrupt. I still have a long way to go, but pray The Lord Jesus will fill me with His Grace lead me along to becoming a true disciple of His in my heart however He wants that to show up in life as He has already purchased me 100% through His precious blood and perfect life He freely gave for me a sinner, Praise God!
Awesome, thank you for the advice.
Yes.
Thank you
That’s the one thing I don’t like about churches when they REQUIRE you to tithe in order to be a member, or guilt people into giving to the church. I give to homeless people or backslidden friends or just people in need more than I give to my church (financially anyway, I give a huge part of my heart and time to the church) and I think God is ok with that.
Amazing sermon I’m really shell shocked
This is the most liberating message on tithing I have ever heard, thank you Pastor Vlad 💯🙏🏾
Another way to talk the sheep into giving up their money. This guy gets paid big bucks...
Dude, I am not your disciple or your student. Who discipled you vlad?.
My new coworkers and I last week conversation:
Him : what is your favorite artist?
Me: Vlad savchuk
Him: who ?
Me : Vlad
Him : what type of music ......
Me : delivrance, salvation, Anointing , walk with Holly spirit, and other...
Him:huum okay
Me: would you like to listen ?
Him:of course
Me : I sent you the link , but waït until you got home and listen to the quiet place and let me know what you think.
Him:ok thanks
3hours later I got the phone call
Him: yo men ,you got me men ,but this guy is TB Joshua junior.
Grace giving (love-driven) New Testament, whereas Tithing (law-given; Mozaic Law) - Old Testament (replaced, abolished)
You pastors don't seem to want to leave your life and go preach like the disciples did! All you want to do is collect for your personal gain not for the poor and needy or the hungry! There is absolutely no need to tithe to any church to any rich pastor!
Tithing was already emphasized in the Old Testament. It was mentioned also in the New Testament as giving. Jesus commanded Peter to feed the sheep or God's people and this commandment means work. There is no God's work in this planet except to share the Gospel to the lost world. And this is where the idea of church was born. Most churches are led by a pastor. Sadly, more pastors are engaged in prosperity gospel: luxurious lifestyle, acquiring more lands and constructing big buildings, which are very expensive to maintain, rather than sending more missionaries to different parts of the world to find the lost sheeps. This way, churches are scrambling for financial resources resorting to extorsion from members in the form of tithes and offerings.
Amen! Such good sound teaching. Thank you for this.
wow thank you for this amazing sermon!! I literally have been so confused about tithing... and felt so guilty for not tithing 10% 😪 Holy Spirit led me to this sermon. I really enjoy your preaching!
How do you know God wasn't trying to lead you to tithe
@@jenniferlouk8312 I do tithe.. its just that the 10% is under old law, so we not required to give the 10% but to give cheerfully
@@faranaazroode7758 , Abel and Cain gave their first to God. That was well before the "Law".
And remember what Jesus said in Matthew 5:17
Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
@@jenniferlouk8312 yes but this don't mean we have to respect the old law
If we are not required to Tithe, then why does God say we are robbing Him if we do not give?
God was speaking to the priests of the Old Testament. Not to saints of the new covenant.
Malachi 3 - what the whole chapter expresses - is important - it has a lot of prophetic wording. It's interesting, that it is not uncommon for people to refer to the Old Testament regarding the prophetic and in support of that prophetic message but then when it comes to tithing and offering, some have chosen to see it as Old Testament and dismissed it for a time. I even did so for a time, until God helped me to realize better. But, do they really think it's not important or is it just more fleshly convenient for them to contribute what is supposed to be the tithe, to a more fleshly comfortable lifestyle - paying for fleshly wants instead of what they could be satisfied with after submitting the tithe and offering
He didn't. The narrative in the book of Malachi was confined within Israel and further narrowed towards the Levitical Priests. Biblical, systematic tithing had nothing to do with paying 10% of earned wages to a religious institution.
@@markb7067honestly I need clarity on this topic. Same as to the Sabbath why it was changed to Sunday.
@@elwingw4321Exactly thank you! It was for the Levitical priest in Malachi but the church does do the research to understand who that chapter in Malachi was referring too just as you said. Giving to the poor is first for me, then to ministry. I’ve seen God bless me when I started giving to the poor first, then support ministries.
God gave His Son yes .....so we should give our all to God yes....but to use this to teach tithing aint right....i am disappointed.
Their not!
give what u can .not what pastor say or push . these days church becomes business
you should give. look up tithe in the old testament, it was not money
We have different look about tithes but as for it is test of faith & obedient
Tithing is about trusting God an open gesture od that not a legalistic act.
So is giving! Tithe is NOT greater than giving.
The Lord never changes His mind about anything. I tithe the Lords holy portion, that cursed thing placed under the ban. And yes tithing is in the new test. I'm careful to tithe His tithe to ministries that are not afraid to preach against sexual sin and perversion, etc. and yes I studied it even in Greek and Hebrew. Jesus even said to the leaders they should have excercized compassion and mercy, while continuing to tithe.
Amanda you're right that where we read that is in what we call the new testament but Jesus was speaking to people in that time under the old covenant who were required to tithe.
If you tithe to be in God's favour, then you're trusting in, believing in, your tithe .... you're not fully trusting in Jesus ..... trusting in Jesus is how we truly come onto God's favour .... then we can truly give freely because we trust in our Father in heaven looking after us.
With love sis .... God forgive us and we come into His love through Jesus only. If we think we also have to tithe then we actually stop ourselves from being under grace ..... we've gone back to law.
See further the book of Galatians and Romans
He delivered us from spiritual death there is no greater miracle than being deliver from spiritual death through salvation. Period!
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Awesome sermon!
The goal is following, not formula...
It will be amazing to have this in Spanish so I can share with friends.
Paul preached giving and receiving not tithing❤Paul gave his life and all to Jesus and the work of the ministry🔥. Let’s strive to give above 10% by the measure of the grace we’ve received
THE QUESTION IS
Jesus cannot demand for tithe because he is not a levite and it will be unlawful for him to demand and collect tithe.
Is Yehodhua now turned to a Hero of rebellion against the law of Lord God Yehovah the covenant Lawgiver.
Is the God of christians the same Lord God Yehovah the covenant lawgiver or another God since Yehovah the God, lord, king, lawgiver Judge, creator, Father and Savior that commanded tithing is a person not a trinity.
Are christians people of Lord God Yehovah the Lawgiver?
Are christians obedient to the voice of Lord God Yehovah the lawgiver?
Are christians submissive to Lord God Yehovah the Lawgiver
Are christians followers of Lord God Yehovah the Lawgiver?
Jesus cannot collect tithe because he is not a levite.
Abraham was not commanded to give tithe to Melchizedek but out of his own volition
Hallelujah preach the truth brother !!!!!
I DIDN'T HEAR ANY BIBLE REFERENCES USED AS YOU TALKED ABOUT YOUR SUBJECTS. STUDY MY POINT ON THITING... TITHING IS ONLY FOR THE 11 TRIBES AND IS NOT APPLICABLE TO CHRISTIANS. SEACH THIS TO SET YOU FREE.
G-o-d is the false mighty one of prosperity, warned against in Isaiah 65:11-12. I am BNY YSHRAL- aren't you grafted into the Tree of YSHRAL, which is the Messiah. The Tree is the NTSR, and those who follow Him are NTSRYM. Those tithing to G-o-d are stealing the tithe. The Name of the Mighty One of YSHRAL is Hayah asher Hayah. I tithe because ABRaHM tithed to MLK TSDQ (King Righteous).
It says King David and others in OT had the Spirit, so you're LYING.
I could not see Jesus preaching the same message Vlad is teaching and Jesus is God and "had no place to lay His head". Woe to the extortioners who guilt for money. Their day is coming says God.
Its not natiral for you to work but God says WORK ! You're LAZY !
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Missions,descipleships and ministries can be supported by only by giving Cheerfully and reluctantly for giving has no amount required but it depending on the desire of your heart.
Since we are not under the Law, but now under Grace does the curse of the law still apply according to Malachi?
Acts 20:35, 2Corinthians 9:7
Later dont preach saying that old testament should be removed from the bible.
There is tithing as and offering just know the different helping poor is offering tithe should be given where you fellowship 😊😊
Amen ❤
Beautiful I love this
Thanks!
Praise God God is good
This message has been so powerful and encouraging. Lord bless you Pastor Vlad. Praise the Lord!!
Hallelujah!
To God be the Glory 🙏🏻
Hallelujah
My brother you are preaching! Yes Sir Hallelujah
amen 🙏 💣‼️🔥🔥🔥🔥
Amen, what a wonderful message..
Did Jesus asked us to do tithing?
The question is did Jesus take tithe?
That loud gasp!!🤣🤣
Tithing is a principal, and it did not die in the Old Testament. The difference is it is not a requirement nor will it bring a curse if you don’t. On the other hand it may feel like a curse because you missed the blessing in it. That’s why when Jesus was asked about it He simply said “You should tithe”. Tithing is the greatest opportunity to live under God’s open Heaven of blessings and the only time God says “Prove Me”! Or in other words, “Come on, put me to the test on this” (Malachi 3:10-12). Well I can testify of the many times I have found myself in a situation where I was out of solutions and had to run to the Father and declare back to Him what He gave me permission to prove Him on - “Father, I am a tither and a giver and in doing so your word says YOU will rebuke the devourer for my sake. Therefore my finances, my health, my home, my wealth (etc.) will NOT be devoured, and blessings are pouring through the windows of Heaven that I stand ready to receive and bless others with the overflow.” I tell you EVERY single time that I have proven Him, His word has NEVER returned void. So instead of worrying about robbing God, just don’t let the enemy rob you of this powerful principle that God still honors today. Beloveds, Tithing will bless your life 🙏🏽😇❣️
Tithing was under the Mosaic law, Christ has set us free from the law, sin and death through His precious blood. I'm no longer under the curse of the law, but am saved by His grace through faith hallelujah. Being a disciple is the real answer to giving to God's work. Read Gal. 3:10-14.
@@ralvinwestbrook3370 Tithing existed before Moses was even born. It’s a principle, not a levitical law. However it was in use while Israel was under the law and it still is. You don’t “have” to tithe, you “get” to tithe! There’s not a Wall Street move out there that can out bless the tithe, because it comes with the Shalom of God, meaning peace & wholeness in every aspect of your life. I’m glad you believe I’m discipleship! It’s the last command Jesus gave and probably will be the first thing we’ll be judged on in eternity - did you go into all the world and make disciples. That’s good news 🙌🏽👍🏽
@@JourneyToMyDestiny Tithing as a TAX was given under Moses, that is an obligatory - you robbed God if you don't, the Tithe before Moses which was done by Abraham (one-time event) was done out freewill (not under compulsion) and thus can't be considered as Law-Tithing. So give like Abraham, not like those under Mozaic Law.
Hi their my dear sister, I just want to clear up the issue that Jesus supposedly told us to continue tithing now in the NT. Matt. 23:23 and Luke. 11:42 are scriptures the prosperity preachers and teachers love to use out of context. Jesus was rebuking the hypocrisy of of the Pharisees. They used paying their tithes (note: they payed their tithe with spices, farm produce and NOT MONEY!!!! why?) to quiten their conscience for not living as they aught to, the Lord set them straight for trying to hide behind their tithing rather than living a holy life. Why is the using of these scriptures out of context? Because during the time Jesus spoke to the Pharisees they were still under the Mosaic law of the Old Covernant of the OT and it was their duty to pay their farm produce "tithes". The NT began with Christ's resurrection. See what l mean, taken out of context? These are just two scriptures the "tithe" promoters love to twist to their advantage, they have a string of scriptures they use to "blind side" the masses.
Now that we understand that Jesus did not order the NT believers to "tithe", not one of the Lord's disciples or the Apostles or any other follower of Jesus ever advocated the "tithe" in the NT. l find that rather strange after the all the billions have been made off the poor, ignorant and vulnerable folk, it is heart breaking.
Here is another thing to ponder. Up until 700 years ad. the early church never "tithed", rather they gave from their hearts, not under compulsion but rather out of the motive of love.
700ad. the Roman Catholic church and discovered the financial aid benefit of up dating and changing the mediun of the "tithe" to money. They soon made the "tithe" compulsory. Anyone who never payed their "tithe" was anathema, kicked of the RCC and sent to hell.
The Protestant churches soon caught the gravy train. The rest is history.
So you see my sister the WHOLE NT TITHING is based on lies, extortion, fear, guilt and false promises.
I certainly don't want you to stop giving to the Lord's work. But please don't give it because you you HAVE TO but, rather out of your love for the Lord according to what the Lord lays on your heart.
The word TITHING carries with it a stigma of the Mosaic law, fear, guilt and curse from from the OT. We are no longer under the OT and the 613 laws, praise God we are under the Lord's marvelous GRACE.
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There is no mention of tithing being paid by the Saints in the New Testament because they gave MUCH more than a tenth (see Acts 2:44) and had all things in common, i.e., they sold ALL they had and gave it to the church. No where does it say that the principal of tithing is no longer in effect. It always has been. But - the ONLY way you can know for sure is to do what God challenged in Malachi and “Test Me”, saith the Lord - and see if He won’t rebuke the devourer of your health, finances, marriage, ministry, etc. He has come through for me too many times with His promise when there was no way out, and opened the windows of Heaven over me and supernaturally blessed me to the overflow. Now of course, it’s not a salvation requirement, so to each his own. But you couldn’t pay me “not” to tithe! It wasn’t just under the law, it was and is a promise and a principal. Shalom.
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Allelluiah!!! Soo rightly divided!! I now fully understand- l knew but not to this level!!! Glory to God!!
1 year and not many likes. This one must burn and convict the luke-warm. I needed this brother. Your a blessing to the body of Christ
The mission of Christ in no way is dependent upon or held back by money. Jesus taught this valuable lesson when He sent His disciples out with nothing. He had them depend 100% on Him.
Sound doctrine is so refreshing, and unfortunately so rare these days. Well done.
Completely agree.
No, people putting their opinions is confusing. Read and ask God to show you, to give you understanding. God is not the author of confusion
@@jenniferlouk8312 Doctrine of tithing is not supported by the apostles teaching and thus should be rejected as legalism.
yes. you can support a chirch if you feel lead to, besides that nobody shpuld be saying you ahve to do anything. @@stevenklinkhamer9069
@@stevenklinkhamer9069, Jesus said He didn't come to abolish the law but to uphold.
Tithing has been a "thing" since Cain and Abel. The apostles are not the creators. Ill listen to God, thx.
@@jenniferlouk8312😂
MALACHI IS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT...
IT SAYS TO TITHE.....
The book of Malachi is the last book of the Old Testament and the tithe indictments in chapter 3 can't be universally applied either historically or currently.
Typical money launderer. This guy hooks up with Benny Hinn. Be careful church with this guy.
So many people are being DECIEVED of this teaching ,GOD HELP HIM 😢
Great message. So challenging, but encouraging.
Time to get out of my comfort zone. Thanks Vlad!!!