i am a stay at home father of two physically and mentally disabled children. which means, i dont get to leave my house very often. it can get very boring and very lonely, so i cant tell people like you, brad, phelous, and others how much i appreciate what you do. there are days that i desperately need a laugh, and i can always count on people like you. thank you linkara, and hopefully you continue to bring a smile to all our faces!
Must be hard not knowing whether or not you're a clone, too bad Peter doesn't know some of the brightest minds in the world like Reed Richards, Hank Pym, Tony Stark, and T'Challa who have the brain and money power to help with that........................*looks at the camera*
What's sad is that the spider man animated series adaptation of the clone saga involved Ben Reilly getting help from doctor Connors to examine his DNA to figure if he was the clone or not. Not only did they acknowledge that the story was bad but they did many things to try and fix it.
You know, even for an independent and technically amateur production, the plot twists you’ve come up with for this story are still leagues better than anything in the 90s Clone Saga.
You don't need a high budget to have good story telling. All you need is a creative person (or people) who has a lot invested in their story. That's why games like "Gone Home" or "Everybody's Gone to the Rapture" exist.
It’s not amateur; he pays himself to write, record and edit, so its professional. That’s actually the difference: whether or not there’s a check to cash afterwards.
"They weren't clones because cloning was impossible." Oh, sure, but a retrovirus that completely alters a person to the point of being genetically identical to someone else AND replaces the infected person's memories with the person they now resemble? That's scientifically accurate.
I like to headcanon that at the cost of making a stable clone the result is that it is completely bat shit f****** insane and it somehow radiates an aura of stupidity so everybody around them doesn't notice how f****** crazy they are.
@@davidspring4003 to me it's like the only way you could address this in a way that makes sense. Because the character is a raving lunatic in a way the other characters don't seem to acknowledge. Obviously it's just the result of inconsistent writing but from a story perspective I could buy the fact that it is the trade-off for most of the clones. You either get something that's physically stable or mentally stable with very few successes on both. And for the weird case of the Jackal he is a clone that is insanely smart, pretty strong and durable at the cost of being a raving f****** lunatic. And throw in that the lunacy is somehow contagious because everybody else seems to fall into the same trap when he's around. Again it wouldn't solve all the problems but if they were to tell me that that was the case I'd believe it.
@@davidspring4003 Sadly doubt that's the case. Still I like to imagine that the original Jackal is and has always been dead and this is just a clone who is so off the wall insane he thinks he's the original.
14:18 Having recently watched Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 I have no problem believing that The High Evolutionary would be petty enough to claim that cloning was not possible because he was not able to figure it out
I think I know a way to undo One More Day while addressing it. Here's my pitch: "Trapped in a time-displacement limbo, a young girl manages to escape with the help of Doctor Strange, who hears her SOS signals for help. Calming her, he asks who she is and where her parents are, to which she responds... "My name is Liz May Parker, and my parents are Peter and Mary Parker". Calling up Peter, Strange talks with him about Liz and how identical she is to Mary Jane, even having Peter's eyes. Thinking she maybe a clone, Peter has Strange run a test on her but proves she is not. Things get even weirder when she reveals she knows Peter is Spider-Man and talks about events that have happened and also haven't, making Peter realize that she is from the future. Asking Strange to watch her, he lets slip the name of his Aunt May and Liz responds with confusion as she died years before she was even born. Asking the date of when she was born, she responds (insert date here, since Marvel and DC love to keep things vague), making both Strange and Peter realize that she's not only from the future but from an alternate timeline of their universe. After Peter leaves in distraught, Strange asks her more about her future and how she ended up in limbo. She talks about an event (referencing the Incursions from Secret Wars) in which (insert superhero who can do what I'm about to explain) placed her in limbo and taught her the SOS signals for someone to save her once the event was over. Asking more questions, Strange is intrigued to learn that while her childhood is different from their timeline, the past before her birth almost matches theirs to a T. Meanwhile, Peter goes to Mary Jane and asks for her help, explaining everything he knows to her. While shocked by this, Mary wishes to see the child for herself and leaves with Peter back to Strange's place. When arriving, Liz runs to her and the two share a quiet moment hugging, as Mary has always wanted a child. Though Peter remains frightened by Liz's presence, feeling confused and mixed. Doctor Strange looks into the events described by Liz and comes up with a theory about why the timelines are different, believing that something happened to Peter and Mary before the birth of their child. Asking to test Peter and Mary through magical means, he discovers the presence of a curse on them, but can't make it out. However, the house becomes under attack by demons, who take Liz from Mary Jane's arms while Strange and Peter are busying fighting the decoys. Recognizing the presence of the demons' master to the curse he sensed from Peter and Mary, he deduces that the one tied to all of this is 'Mephisto'. The demons take Liz to Mephisto, who demands to know why she wasn't erased. Doctor Strange uses the scent of the demons to follow them back to their hideout, which Mephisto notices and decides to let them through with no resistance, wishing to resolve this situation. He then orders his demons to bring him someone else. Meeting Mephisto, Doctor Strange demands to know what he did to Peter and Mary, who reveals the backstory of the events of One More Day. And right on time, the demons bring in May Parker, offering both Peter and Mary a new deal. Sacrifice the existence of their daughter in exchange for the continuing life of Aunt May or Aunt May will die for the continuing existence of Liz in this timeline. Upset and angered by the revelation, Peter and Mary Jane are left hopeless as to which one to save. But Aunt May reassures them that she is ready to die and asks them to let her go to be at peace. At the same time, Doctor Strange casts a curse onto Mephisto, which opens a portal to the same time-displacement limbo Liz was trapped in and sucks him in, but not before undoing the old deal in the process. As Aunt May dies in the arms of Peter, with Liz and Mary Jane watching in tears, May reveals that she knows that Peter is Spider-Man and that she is proud of him before taking her final breath. However, Liz starts to disappear as Mephisto had casted a curse to allow time to erase her from the timeline. Unable to do anything, Peter and Mary Jane watch as their alternate timeline daughter disappears, but not before sharing a hug with them and thanking them for being the best parents from her timeline. Months after May's funeral, Peter and Mary Jane are dating again, sharing in their hardships. They've also regained their memories of their previous lives when they were married, which motivates them to become more responsible and to be the better parents Liz remembered them to be, vowing to name their next future daughter after her." Well, how's that for a way to undo One More Day?
Man, if the guys at Marvel had any working brain cells, they'd hire you, make that storyline canon, and pay you a fuck load a money. Would be SOOOOOO much better than the current crap they've got....
i had a similar idea, Dr Strange and everything! Though I had Mephisto deliberately screwing with Peter even before The Decision, bc the Watson-Parker family were more powerful and more influential than anyone realized.
@@901Sherman Thanks man I also had another story in mind another a time-traveler who lost his memory during the Incursions of Secret Wars and traveled back in time to help prevent the events from destroying the multiverse but ended up losing his memories because of the time-ripples, and had set the events of One More Day into motion (side note, he time-travelers after Peter's daughter is placed in the time-displacement limbo). I took inspiration from the movie Jumper for this. "Anyway, the story begins with a mysterious individual breaking into a prison and taking a journal from evidence. Moving to a different time period, Spider-Man is chasing down the Kingpin who is trying to escape the country since the NYPD has enough evidence to put him away for life. During the fight on a helipad, one of the Kingpin's men is knocked out and his last sight is one of Spider-Man doing a signature move, which triggers a series of memories as a dream sequence. He relieves his childhood and his obsession with discovering what happened to his father, who disappeared during one of his 'missions'. Discovering that he has the same power of time-travel as his father, he began exploring past events and piecing together what his father did, but can't find out where he went on his last mission. Years later, after the death of his mother, he leaves his life behind and becomes a full-time time-traveler, taking jobs as they came, receiving training from various warriors across time and continuing his mission to find his father. When the Incursions arrived, the time-traveler attempted to go back and warn the Avengers during their peak before Civil War, but ended up doing so just when the Incursions destroyed Earth, seconds away from oblivion. Though saving himself, the Incursions cause ripple-effects across time and affect his brain, causing him to lose all of his memories and impairing his time-traveling abilities. Waking up years before Civil War, the man is forced to become a professional criminal in order to survive, which catches the attention of the Kingpin due to his skills and intellect. Offering him a job as a bodyguard, the man accepts and eventually becomes one of Kingpin's best men. After the events of Civil War, the man discovers where Peter Parker is hiding and informs the Kingpin, who sends an assassin. Fast-forward years later, the man is told of the evidence the NYPD has come across from an informant and tells the Kingpin, who immediately begins to leave the country. Fighting off Spider-Man across the city to the helipad, the man engages Spider-Man but is easily defeated, though Kingpin manages to escape. Awakening in the hospital, he finds himself in custody of the NYPD, who have evidence on him as well. Placed on trial, he is found guilty of all charges and is sentenced to death. While on death row, he begins writing a journal to help piece together his life and regrets, his biggest being that he never discovered what had happened to his father. On the day of his execution, he makes peace with himself and is put on an electric chair. However, as the electricity enters his body, it manages to repair his time-traveling abilities and he disappears from the execution chamber. A few days later, a mysterious individual enters the prison and takes the journal." It's just a side story I had in mind that explains how the events of One More Day came to be. I apologize for the long summary detail of the story. I have a sequel in mind to this, that explores the man's journey in trying to find out what happened to his father and also trying to redeem himself of his evil deeds during his time as a criminal. Still working out the details, but I do believe it can lead to a third and final sequel to tie it all up.
This is a real good concept for a story. I'd totally take it over what they seem to be doing now. However, the thing Linkara said he was looking for wasn't just a way to undo the deal. He wanted them to be married again and not teased with "this could've been yours years ago if the writers weren't colossal jerks." I'd also say that unless it's a big event comic, it may be difficult to pull non-Spidey characters into your story, even as just a cameo. My idea of a plot to undo One More Day would be Spidey dealing with time travel itself by fighting someone through a time stream, and maybe he randomly does something that would get the bad guy but change his personal history so that "Uh-oh! Spider-Man's suddenly not an ex-Stark ex-Ock back-to-schooler, he's a married man now with the girl he's been just dating and he's not mentally ready for commitment!" What I'm trying to say is that the only way Spidey's life turns for the better in his fans' eyes is if it royally screws him over somewhere else.
3:503:53 10 Years of using that Spider-Man TAS clip and I still love it and the line, ‘This is starting to sound like a bad comic book plot!’ And it still is.
Now that he has that British BluRay of the whole series, I look forward to an eventual retrospective concerning the 90s series. If only to see how he feels about it now, especially the weird decision to resolve the Felicia, Peter, MJ love triangle was to... have Felicia date Morbius. Yeah, I still feel that was a weak ass subplot, but I'm bias. I've always kinda wanted Felicia and Peter to get together.
"And you are all watching me, watching Skryer, watching Kane, watching The Jackel and Ben Riley..." And TH-cam is watching Us, watching you, watching Skryer, watching Kane, watching The Jackel and Ben Riley and thinking I can't believe we are getting paid for this.
stonecoldku The government is watching TH-cam watching us watching Linkara watching Norman watching Scrier watching Kane watching the jackal and Ben Riley.
@@Ashurman666 It's stupid in the sense that Marvel decided to work with Sony to make this game, instead of some 3rd-party developer, which could have made it available on more than one console. Of course, I wouldn't complain about it, if the Xbox One and the Switch had their own exclusive Marvel games. But they don't, so...
+BartmanBegins It's not stupid. Systems NEED exclusives to survive and to keep a healthy level of competition between one another. If there were no exclusives then there might as well not be more than one game system since everything is available on everything. Competition is good. EXCLUSIVES are good, exclusives push companies to do better and better to trump one another. Besides, had they worked with a third party developer, who's to say there wouldn't be any greedy ass bullshit tactics or an inferior product?
@@Ashurman666 'sigh' Listen, I have no problem with exclusive titles for certain consoles. Sony has God of War, Ratchet and Clank, etc. Nintendo has Mario, Zelda, etc. Microsoft has Halo, Gears of War, etc. However, when it comes to LICENSED games, those are the ones that should be available on more than one console. As a Nintendo fan, I honestly wouldn't had any problem if Goldeneye 007 on the N64 was also available on the PS1 back then, even though I'm aware it wouldn't have been possible due to being developped by Rareware, who was working for Nintendo at the time. "Besides, had they worked with a third party developer, who's to say there wouldn't be any greedy ass bullshit tactics or an inferior product?" Three words: Batman Arkham Asylum.
+BartmanBegins Sorry but just because one game was good under a third party developer it doesn't give you ANY guarantee whatsoever that the same thing would have happened for Spider-Man. Yeah i get it, it sucks you can't play it but that's how the "game" is played.Exclusives aren't going to dissapear, they are going to continue to be a thing and there is no point whatsoever in complaining, bitching,moaning or crying about it
After ten years, out of all your reviews I think your best one has been "Holy Terror". Even with the rising production value's of your show, I still say it's your magnum opus. Sort of like how "Wrath of Khan" was only the second "Star Trek" movie yet is still considered the best by most people.
Okay for some reason this reminds of that one episode of Buzz Lightyear Of Star Command. The one when he fought his evil universe doppelganger, who had traveled to the regular universe to get revenge on his good counterpart for stopping his evil schemes and saving that universe from his influence. I don't know why, but I hope that Linkara will get really paranoid about a pen being part of a evil plan.
I'm cool that you're re-reviewing the issue that started it all, 10 years all where you've gotten your review style down to pat and gotten better. Is it also sad that these days, when I think of Gwen Stacy, I think of her alternate-universe Ghost-Spider counterpart instead of 616 dead Gwen Stacy and all these clone shenanigans? Also gotta applaud the storyline.Totally didn't' expect the ending.
@@mikecahall542 Just for the sake of the MCU, they may just have Gwen just be some version of Spider-Gwen since the "original" was used to horrible effect with the AMAZING SPIDER MAN 2. So yeah i would love to see Spider Gwen brought to the next stage of the MCU movies, it would be pretty awesome actually
Oof. That's another thing you've improved about. Your acting. I couldn't call your acting in earlier storyline segments bad, but it really has brought the darker, more desperate, and creepy elements of your villains to life. Mechakara's rage and insanity here was genuinely terrifying. Your characters have gone from fun little skits and sketches with a touch of action and drama to full blown epics.
Evil-kara was behind this........I've should've known that he would return with his beard and gold vest with him! HOW COULD I'VE BEEN SO BLIND?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Thank you for being so committed to making these for 10 years. I must have found this channel about three years ago and have watched every episode. Here's to ten more.
Congrats Lewis... you've inspired me to work on my own comic script, and it's coming together rather well. thank you for all you've taught us about comics.
Well...that was a twist I didn't coming. Nice one. I've been watching your show since right around the time they were looking to create the Nostalgic Chick. So I do remember watching your stuff from pretty much the beginning. You were always my favorite out of all of them. Probably because of these storylines that you do. I loved a lot of the things you believed in. I loved the jokes you pulled off and the references you made. You made me wanted to try my own hand and wanting to do reviews even if they just boiled down to my own text reviews on deviant art. You reignited my love for power rangers & comics, You always brightened my day which a lot of us needs at time. I'm glad to have found your stuff and I looked forward to seeing more over the years. Thanks Linkara! Happy 10.
I said it before and I’ll certainly say it again.. Well this is it, 10 Years of.. I AM A MAN, The Magic Gun, Combine Harvester, Bees My god, Adamantiun Rage, Batman Hating Rock N Roll, Pollo, MechaKara, Dr Linksano, 90’s Kid, Harvey, Frank Miller, Rob Liefeld, Gary Brodski, History of Power Rangers, One More Day, The Clone Saga, The Tandy Computer Whiz Kids, Silent Hill, Thing Tucker, The T-Force, Crazy Steve & Dick Greyson aged 12, Marville, Secret Origins, Doomkara, Missing Number, Pokemon, Dr Who, Star Trek, And hating the New 52, And yet after all that this is still starting to sound like a bad comic book plot!
Nick Spencer might actually be trying to fix that, too. What with that weird character tormenting Spidey's villains and referencing some "contract". I heard that said character is somehow related to Mephisto anyway, but that might have been speculation.
@ULGROTHA that's a fair point, but that might be why he's steering it that way instead of outright doing it already. Also, I'm pretty sure Quesada is no longer Editor in Chief, right? Granted, I'm not totally up to date on all the ins and outs of all that. I'm unaware as to whether he's still working with Marvel in any capacity 🤷♂️.
@@alexandredesbiens-brassard9109 The CCO isn't really the boss of the EIC. He oversees a lot of stuff, sure, and he's the figurehead, but he doesn't;t have real input on stores and the overall direction. Anyway, Quesada is no longer CCO.
In regards to the base Miles has here. Could he just be squatting in one of Wilson Fisk’s hangouts? Like seriously in the 90’s Spider Man cartoon, the Kingpin has secret high tech bases in every corner of Manhattan, Warrren probably just found an empty one and set up shop. Different mediums sure but I wouldn’t be surprised if Wilson didn’t have a few of those in comics too
I love learning the fact that you started off with text reviews. This clone stuff is crazy but your take on it is ‘a bad comic book plot done well’😊 The pod person is the flash! God damnit Barry! 😂
For the past two months, I've been thinking up plot points for what I'd do if I ever became the Amazing Spider-Man writer, and funnily enough, one of my ideas is to finally undo that stupid "Aunt May actress" retcon. My other ideas involve Spidey going to therapy, Peter finally remembering his deal with Mephisto, and the Spider-Baby still being alive. Yeah, I don't think Marvel Editorial would let me be the Amazing Spider-Man writer.
For anyone who's wondering: 1) Aunt May has been a Clone since 1998. 2) Aunt May's cancer from Tom Taylor's run will return, and the deja vu will give Peter memory flashes of OMD. 3) The Spider-Baby has been in the custody of the Scrier cult all this time.
Also, I'm gonna bring back Kaine. We haven’t seen him since Spider-Geddon, and I'd like to see what became of him. The best part is that other writers have already planted the seeds for my stories. 1) The Post-Clone- Saga era dropped hints that the baby was still alive, and the Scrier cult hasn't been seen since 2000. 2) Mephisto has been plaguing multiple Spider-Men over in Spider-Man/Deadpool, Champions and Ben Reilly: Scarlet Spider. 3) Dan Slott wrote a scene where Peter had a vague feeling about making some kind of deal, with not-so-subtle hints that he was talking about One More Day. 4) Everything Nick Spencer did, especially having Doctor Strange realising that something was wrong, and finally giving Mephisto a motivation for starting that deal. All I'd need to worry about now is if Jason Aaron ruins my plans with his Avengers run.
You were watching them in your clone pod for 5 years? .....ok, questions: 1- How? I think either of them would notice a freakin drone following them around considering both have spider senses and even without them a drone that shouldn't exist that's carrying an old camera set up weighing a small planet...yeah that's not the kind of thing you miss. And if you're saying it was inside them the whole time, both have gone through examinations before so again, not the kind of thing you miss! 2-Again...how? You were watching them in your clone pod...like... as you were cloning? Did you flip through channels and look down like "Hey, my vital organs have finally started growing back.. neat." 3- Why? I get being a villian and plotting your revenge is a thing, but you spent the better part of 5 years in story time watching these two go about their lives. Peter's mundane life as a freelance photographer.... who occasionally gets to do something cool when a villain attacks.... which doesn't happen every day so....riveting. Also given the playboy tag, I can only imagine you were perving on Mary Jane this entire time too so..... dude she's taken, not cool. 4- You programmed them to return to you when you awoke from the pod.... what were you gonna do if they decided to not be idiots and just get rid of you immediately? You took a good punch there until they stopped, so there's nothing suggesting that you're any stronger than you were last time.....wait! 5- You programmed them to show up.... if you can just mindjack someone to get them to come to your birthday party half a decade down the road, why can Peter hit you at all?!? Why wasn't "Hey, maybe don't beat me up." one of the first things you tossed in there while you had him at your mercy. You know... on the off chance they could, I don't know....BLOW YOU THE HELL UP!! (Also the non-violence chip in Ben since... well yeah, this is not the first time you've met/ gotten curb stomped. I restate... boom~) 6- Why do any of this? Literally all you did in these comics was mess with them for the lols. I get that's the point.....but why though? You gained nothing from this experience except a destroyed lab And 7- HOW THE HELL WERE YOU A COLLEGE PROFESSOR IF THIS WAS THE BEST REVENGE YOU COULD COME UP WITH AFTER FIVE YEARS OF DOING NOTHING BUT PLOTTING IT?!?! You'd think someone who made his living teaching youths would have a little more depth than an internet troll. ....then again 98% of your students will never care enough to retain the material from your biology course, so maybe that really is the best you can do. (Also, I'm just saying. You could have achieved the same effect by just showing them an issue of Trouble.... Congrats on the anniversary Linkara~)
Well, that happened. From discovering you with your review of Transformers #4 & 5 and teaching me about the scummy practices of Pat Lee to the here and now, crazy ride. Happy 10th anniversary and here's to 10 more.
I used to believe that the best/only way to erase One More Day was that it was Peter who got shot, not Aunt May and he has been in a coma all these years while Ben Riley has been acting as Spiderman. This would simultaneously make people disbelieve that Peter was ever Spiderman and given what happened to Peter it could tie back into how Civil War was wrong. The whole Mephisto thing was not only just a dream, it was a dream manipulated by Mephisto and he has been living large off Peter's broken mind ever since, while Aunt May watches over his unconscious body every day in the hospital, and MJ raises their daughter and cries herself to sleep at night until one day Peter's finger twitches, the mind returning due to some event in The Avengers or Fantastic Four or something. I pretty much have the same opinion now, except I believe that with MJ's pleading some of the heroes should try to use the Mind Stone to restore Peter and that this will reveal not only that there are parallel worlds involved, all the stories told since then are either Ben or in Peter's dream universe which may be the real history of Ben Riley if he was never a clone., also raises possibilities with other poorly summed up plot threads like Judas Traveler. Or something, needs refinement by someone who knows the continuity and is a better writer than I, but the Infinity Stones offer possibilities. Ultimately though it still has to be that he never made the deal, he just dreamed it which is why it made no sense.
About the Jackal's outfit: Looks to me like the artist was inspired by Edward Scissorhands and The Crow. The Matrix didn't invent the look, it just was the first movie to have everyone in said outfit and the popularity of the movie inspired Hollywood in all the wrong ways, as per usual. Every time a movie is a huge success, Hollywood thinks it's due to aesthetics instead of the movie having a good story and great acting.
Oh, you truly ARE The Man! After 10 years of plot twists and storylines, you still make me laugh and wonder what comes next. Good job sir, hope to follow you for the next 10 years and beyond! Congratulations Lewis, Linkara, That Guy With The Hat!!! All love!
I'd found out about you, Lewis, through your crossovers with the Nostalgia Critic. Since then I've come to enjoy your content much more. I went from your NC crossovers to your "History of Power Rangers" videos, to checking out your review of the KISS comics, to checking out your "Charles Barkley vs. Godzilla" comic review to just deciding to watch all the rest of your stuff and become a regular viewer. I got to see so much from you and was entertained the entire time. I hope to see much more in the years to come. Congratulations on the 10 year anniversary, Lewis. You deserved to last this long and deserve to last longer still.
You have no idea how hard I'm kicking myself right now for not seeing Mirrorkara coming. Erin's heel turn? Oh, yeah. I was actually expecting that well before now. And I knew that Mirrorkara would eventually return seeking vengeance. I just never thought to put those things together. Well done. And happy 10th, man. It's been a helluva ride, and I've no intention of stepping off.
Jackal seems like a male Mary Sue, Gary Stew, for a villain. A super strong, hyper intelligent, supposedly charismatic bad guy who has plans on plans on plans.
Ever since I started watching this channel last year. I learned a lot about comics both from you and the followers//comments section. Happy 10th anniversary, Linkara! You've earned!
I'll say it one more time here: Happy ten years, Linkara. I know a lot of TH-camrs who would be burn out by now, but you are part of rare breed of TH-cams that have been going on for ten years and still have plans for the future. Also, for just one dude, you have made incredible story telling skill, from the ones involving Vice to the Entity, all really well done. I am fan of yours because we like the same franchise, Doctor Who. It was also thanks to you that got me into Star trek as well. I tip my hat off to you Linkara for still going and here's to another ten more years
JOURNEY THROUGH THE DECADE!! Er... Wrong show. Happy 10 year anniversary, Linkara! Wow, what a journey... I sometimes wonder if there was anything that could have made you stop doing this all together, but I am glad you're still around after all this time. He's hoping for 10 more years and beyond! As long as they keep making comics, may there always be Atop the Fourth Wall.
Who’s, the Jackle lied about this entire thing!? Blowing my mind!!! That aside, I am proud to have stuck with you and the show for so long. I may not have watched every single episode, but all I have, I love it. Happy ten years, Lewis and years to another ten!
Thank you so much for this show. It means so much to me and I am sure it means as much if not more to the rest of your fandom and I cannot wait to see what is next! Also spoilers: it is so great to see Evil-Kara is finally taking his rightful place as a big bad in addition to the return of (not quite as)mecha-kara from last week
Holy crap what’s going on?! Who is making her do this!? I’m so excited!! 28:37 And now this is goddamn hilarious! Great shift there man, love your stuff
My God after 9 and a half years of watching this show I still smile each year when we get that classic Spiderman the animated series line and if it was not there the review would be incomplete. Great review like always.
Also, congrats on the ten years. You've been perhaps my most consistent source of internet fun. Reminder that Kylo Ren's tantrums are heavily exaggerated and serve very specific plot purposes. Putting it simply, in TFA, his first tantrum we laugh with him, but after he loses Rey, we laugh at him.
You know what makes "Norman Osborn was behind the whole Clone Saga as revenge against Peter" even stupider? In the year 2000, they released a storyline called 'Revenge of the Green Goblin" that was ALSO about Norman trying to get revenge on Peter by knocking him out and torturing him for days, possibly weeks or even months, in order to turn him into his heir as the next goblin. I actually owned those issues, thinking it was the Green Goblin's first return in comics, and I really loved the dynamic between the two characters and cemented to me that the Green Goblin truly was Spider-Man's rival. And then you compare it THIS complete and utter mess of a story and all I could do was wonder how they dropped the ball so hard.
And to think, about 8 years ago I only watched an episode of this show because I was all caught up on the Nostalgia Critic and Spoony. While a lot of the memories I have of my time regularly visiting the old TGWTG site are tainted now, for various reasons, I'm happy that for the most part the people whose work I found there are still producing content, and have only gotten better. And that includes this show. Congrats on 10 Years of doing something you love. And also for surviving Marville. Just looking at the scans was painful, I can only imagine what it must've felt like to read that shite.
Dude, I have and will always be here for your storylines at the end of these reviews! These always have a good twist and/or insightful dialogue woven throughout. One day I'll be telling my kids about the countless hours I spent watching this show as it is now, and they'll be flabbergasted at the humble beginnings this show started from and will probably think of it as it's own legacy show like doctor who or power rangers. Looking forward to when you can have you 20th anniversary and be wondering how the hell you ever got by without cast and crew and professional animators and whatnot!😜
Yeah no kidding about the therapist thing. Peter has got to have one of the most messed up psyches in all of Marvel, it's a wonder ow he still even FUNCTIONS!
I have not been watching your videos for the whole ten years but I have watched almst all of them and I am glad I did. Here is to 10 more years! But man, Linkara is gonna need a major vacation after that is over. The guy can´t catch a break.
Ultimate ret-con I wanna see: spider-man is facing off against an organization with and lots of high tech. He finds the person helping to supply them with troops... Miles Warren. The real Miles Warren. He was a researcher who was offered a teaching position when he made a breakthrough in cloning. Realizing he could make mint off that, but having already accepted the esu offer, the answer was obvious. Clone himself, have the clone be the teacher, and become a big name in the underworld. He didn't think the clone would be unstable and obsessive. Or that it would remember his cloning techniques. Or track down his funding from the originals underworld dealing and use them for a stupid revenge plot. I mean, it makes more sense then this
You know Scrier was such a waste of ink and paper, when you realize the most notable thing about him, was that he was killed by some dude named Gaunt. Not kidding, just looked up a fandom page of his, and that was the only other piece of info on him besides, "He befriended Judas Traveler".
Happy 10th anniversary. I've been a fan for... Huh, not sure, really. I think since you reviewed Watchmen. And heard of you before that, thanks to The Three Schmuckheads. And it's been an amazing ride so far. Unless something happens to the internet, you, me, or all of the above, I'm not going anywhere.
0:59 The zippers look a lot like those plastic strips you used to pull to make those flywheel cars run. Like you could pull the one on his shoulder and his arm would just fly off down the hallway.
WOW, you actually surprised me with that ending! I think I can say we all kinda saw the 'clone' being Mecha coming but definitely did not see THAT twist! :D
9:25 I don't know Linkara. As much as the solution is to get help from a psychologist is viable, I somehow feel worried on that idea. The fact that Spiderman is a masked, unknown vigilante to the public, who has to spill all of his issues to a random person can be a good thing or a bad thing. Good: Take Young Justice, when the members talk to Black Canary. Bad: Take Batman Beyond when he spoke to Spellbinder. It's either they have their back, or they could use that mental state as a weakness.
Congratulations on the 10 years Lewis, I have no idea how long I've watched you but I know it's been awhile. Here's to ten more and then some! The Scarlet Spider and his costume are awesome. Ben Reilly is one of my all time favorite Spidey characters, hell he's one of my favorite heroes period. Ben is awesome, the Clone Saga however is not. Talk about a waste of a great character, and to this day I still see hate for Ben not because of who he is but because of his association with this storyline. Also, hot damn, Lewis, you were right. You can see the wound effects much better in these shots. That's actually, uh, very unnerving. Good job
Evil-kara is the actual main villain of an arc???? Thats not something I was expecting, but I'll be honest Erin is a character I've kind of ignored and assumed wasnt important despite being such a constant presence these last few arcs, so any alternate motivations that were set up with her are things I was ignoring without realizing it. This arc had two twists. One we all wanted and one I dont think any of us saw coming, plus a bunch of character development for two supporting characters that needed it, not to mention Linkara and his two doppelgangers. Cant wait to see the conclusion.
@23:30 - WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! Here's to a decade of batshit crazy comics, and here's to another decade more! Though, one thing I'd advise to improve over the next ten years? Re-balance the Opening Title Theme and the Closing Credits Theme. If I set my volume to hear you comfortably, the music is too soft. If I set my volume to listen to the music comfortably, you're too loud. Bit of an oddity I've noticed for a long time now. @29:21 - WHOA!! I did _not_ see him coming back!
I think I know how to make this better. This is one of the only times where exposition works, because it’s already been shown. Ben Reilly is already around as well. It goes like this: Peter Parker and Ben Reilly are drawn to a location through their spider sense, as they are in Smoke and Mirrors. They pair do the tiniest bit of research and are not surprised to find that the location had at one point been owned by Miles Warren. They talk about how they won’t be fooled again, with Peter especially trying to keep stonefaced under his mask, and they go in, not sure of what they’ll find. What they do find is that the lab is in functional disrepair. However, they are able to see that the electricity is still going. This is also when they discover that there are also barely functional speakers set up when they hear a familiar voice saying that it is glad that they didn’t keep him waiting... This is when the lighting redirects their attention to a block of machinery and storage containers set under, as many of you can probably guess, a jar holding the wired up brain of Miles Warren, aka the Jackal. The Jackal welcomes the spider men to his last refuge and apologizes that he can’t offer them something to drink. When asked how the hell he called them here, he simply says that he did various experiments with their spider sense through clones over the years and that he figured it out enough to send simple impressions, relying on their dependence on it to draw them here. Before they ask, he says that he is, of course, a clone of the original Miles Warren, but explains that many of the other Jackals have been clones of him, though he’s been drifting back and forth across the line of sanity for years and most of those clones were made during particularly mad points in his prolonged life. He’s been getting by on a bit of fraud that he cooked up years ago, having degenerating clones do temp work and then spending all of their money on classes at ESU and other colleges while he could still have clone professors there. While he had amassed substantial resources through this, the scheme fell apart soon after the original Jackal’s death way back when. Keeping things going hasn’t been too costly, but it’s no longer possible. The clone is dying and has called them there for a deathbed confession. For Ben, he apologizes. He had made him as an enduring clone to get revenge on Peter and realized that that’s been horrible to Ben. With the little money that was left from the original Warren’s scam, the clone Jackal has set Ben up with an independent life with records as Peter’s “cousin.” Ben is shocked to the point of crying. His burden as Peter’s clone is lifted and he can enjoy life. For Peter, he has no apology. He has no gift. He doesn’t even have remorse for what he’s done. He only has just one thing to say: “How are things with your wife?” From there, the Jackal just giggles until his final moment as Ben supports Peter out of the lair, rocked by the Jackal’s final revenge.
"I am giving up the awful name of the Scarlet Spider. From now on, I will be known as... One-Face!"
For someone who's not as popular as the Bee Gees, your show sure is doing a good job of stayin' alive.
"I learned not to make jokes about Schrodinger's cat."
You also learned to make jokes about Schrodinger's cat.
"Go ahead, Peter. Kiss the girl. You know you want to..."
Man, this remake of the Little Mermaid is WEIRD.
MeliesCinemagician both are Disney
Doesn't help the fact that Peter in the 90s cartoons is voiced by Christopher Daniel Barnes who voiced Eric in the first movie and Kingdom Hearts 2.
We all know who was really in that pod....GRANNY GOODNESS!
DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUUUU
It was Walpole.
Bret Sheeley How do you think the Jackal could afford that place?
* * insert slow clap * *
Nah, just kidding. It was...
SNOWFLAME!!!!
i am a stay at home father of two physically and mentally disabled children. which means, i dont get to leave my house very often. it can get very boring and very lonely, so i cant tell people like you, brad, phelous, and others how much i appreciate what you do. there are days that i desperately need a laugh, and i can always count on people like you. thank you linkara, and hopefully you continue to bring a smile to all our faces!
Aw! That's so sweet, and are your kids doing okay? I hope you and your family are happy, watching Linkara, and preparing for an awesome Halloween!
@@petermcaulay4647 they are both in high school, nonverbal and still in diapers. they are a handful, but they keep me on my toes, lol!
+Saturday Morning Cheap Seats
Well, I hope that you're having a happy Halloween and watching Ghostbusters!
@@saturdaymorningcheapseats3281 I’m pretty sure there’s a better way to say that 😅
You know, regarding all his actions in this storyline, the Jackal's real supervillain name should have been "The Troll".
The Troll from Youngblood from Image Comics? Believe me, you don't want him to appear from those tubes. Or appear naked. Or appear at all.
@ @@KazeKoichi : re: appearing naked -- too late. 3.bp.blogspot.com/_5dbDW_Ho-zY/TUWj-wPU9VI/AAAAAAAAATA/i1_rULlNTfA/s1600/07-Attack-Of-The-Fridge2.jpg
(Note the middle panel.)
@@acsound AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-
**Combine Harvester Rant**
Seriously dude! Why bring that up again!!!! D:
Or the annoyer
@@genesismultiverse4896 Well that's implied with a name like The Troll. Plus his appearance.
Must be hard not knowing whether or not you're a clone, too bad Peter doesn't know some of the brightest minds in the world like Reed Richards, Hank Pym, Tony Stark, and T'Challa who have the brain and money power to help with that........................*looks at the camera*
To quote Eddy from Ed, Edd n' Eddy, "What, and ruin the plot?"
They can't even heal a bullet wound, how are they going to tell if someone is a clone or not.
What's sad is that the spider man animated series adaptation of the clone saga involved Ben Reilly getting help from doctor Connors to examine his DNA to figure if he was the clone or not. Not only did they acknowledge that the story was bad but they did many things to try and fix it.
@@segundovargas What plot?
@@AndreasAsselman Um... something something, clone contrivance.
You know, even for an independent and technically amateur production, the plot twists you’ve come up with for this story are still leagues better than anything in the 90s Clone Saga.
You don't need a high budget to have good story telling. All you need is a creative person (or people) who has a lot invested in their story. That's why games like "Gone Home" or "Everybody's Gone to the Rapture" exist.
It’s not amateur; he pays himself to write, record and edit, so its professional. That’s actually the difference: whether or not there’s a check to cash afterwards.
@@Anthintendo I think they meant to say "big budget production" instead of "professional".
"They weren't clones because cloning was impossible."
Oh, sure, but a retrovirus that completely alters a person to the point of being genetically identical to someone else AND replaces the infected person's memories with the person they now resemble? That's scientifically accurate.
I like to headcanon that at the cost of making a stable clone the result is that it is completely bat shit f****** insane and it somehow radiates an aura of stupidity so everybody around them doesn't notice how f****** crazy they are.
@@Igarappappa in other words, plot holes because of genetic degeneration due to extended cloning?
@@davidspring4003 to me it's like the only way you could address this in a way that makes sense. Because the character is a raving lunatic in a way the other characters don't seem to acknowledge. Obviously it's just the result of inconsistent writing but from a story perspective I could buy the fact that it is the trade-off for most of the clones. You either get something that's physically stable or mentally stable with very few successes on both. And for the weird case of the Jackal he is a clone that is insanely smart, pretty strong and durable at the cost of being a raving f****** lunatic. And throw in that the lunacy is somehow contagious because everybody else seems to fall into the same trap when he's around. Again it wouldn't solve all the problems but if they were to tell me that that was the case I'd believe it.
@@Igarappappa you're probably right about the in universe explanation
@@davidspring4003 Sadly doubt that's the case. Still I like to imagine that the original Jackal is and has always been dead and this is just a clone who is so off the wall insane he thinks he's the original.
14:18 Having recently watched Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 I have no problem believing that The High Evolutionary would be petty enough to claim that cloning was not possible because he was not able to figure it out
I think I know a way to undo One More Day while addressing it. Here's my pitch:
"Trapped in a time-displacement limbo, a young girl manages to escape with the help of Doctor Strange, who hears her SOS signals for help. Calming her, he asks who she is and where her parents are, to which she responds... "My name is Liz May Parker, and my parents are Peter and Mary Parker".
Calling up Peter, Strange talks with him about Liz and how identical she is to Mary Jane, even having Peter's eyes. Thinking she maybe a clone, Peter has Strange run a test on her but proves she is not. Things get even weirder when she reveals she knows Peter is Spider-Man and talks about events that have happened and also haven't, making Peter realize that she is from the future. Asking Strange to watch her, he lets slip the name of his Aunt May and Liz responds with confusion as she died years before she was even born. Asking the date of when she was born, she responds (insert date here, since Marvel and DC love to keep things vague), making both Strange and Peter realize that she's not only from the future but from an alternate timeline of their universe.
After Peter leaves in distraught, Strange asks her more about her future and how she ended up in limbo. She talks about an event (referencing the Incursions from Secret Wars) in which (insert superhero who can do what I'm about to explain) placed her in limbo and taught her the SOS signals for someone to save her once the event was over. Asking more questions, Strange is intrigued to learn that while her childhood is different from their timeline, the past before her birth almost matches theirs to a T.
Meanwhile, Peter goes to Mary Jane and asks for her help, explaining everything he knows to her. While shocked by this, Mary wishes to see the child for herself and leaves with Peter back to Strange's place. When arriving, Liz runs to her and the two share a quiet moment hugging, as Mary has always wanted a child. Though Peter remains frightened by Liz's presence, feeling confused and mixed.
Doctor Strange looks into the events described by Liz and comes up with a theory about why the timelines are different, believing that something happened to Peter and Mary before the birth of their child. Asking to test Peter and Mary through magical means, he discovers the presence of a curse on them, but can't make it out. However, the house becomes under attack by demons, who take Liz from Mary Jane's arms while Strange and Peter are busying fighting the decoys. Recognizing the presence of the demons' master to the curse he sensed from Peter and Mary, he deduces that the one tied to all of this is 'Mephisto'.
The demons take Liz to Mephisto, who demands to know why she wasn't erased. Doctor Strange uses the scent of the demons to follow them back to their hideout, which Mephisto notices and decides to let them through with no resistance, wishing to resolve this situation. He then orders his demons to bring him someone else.
Meeting Mephisto, Doctor Strange demands to know what he did to Peter and Mary, who reveals the backstory of the events of One More Day. And right on time, the demons bring in May Parker, offering both Peter and Mary a new deal. Sacrifice the existence of their daughter in exchange for the continuing life of Aunt May or Aunt May will die for the continuing existence of Liz in this timeline.
Upset and angered by the revelation, Peter and Mary Jane are left hopeless as to which one to save. But Aunt May reassures them that she is ready to die and asks them to let her go to be at peace. At the same time, Doctor Strange casts a curse onto Mephisto, which opens a portal to the same time-displacement limbo Liz was trapped in and sucks him in, but not before undoing the old deal in the process.
As Aunt May dies in the arms of Peter, with Liz and Mary Jane watching in tears, May reveals that she knows that Peter is Spider-Man and that she is proud of him before taking her final breath. However, Liz starts to disappear as Mephisto had casted a curse to allow time to erase her from the timeline. Unable to do anything, Peter and Mary Jane watch as their alternate timeline daughter disappears, but not before sharing a hug with them and thanking them for being the best parents from her timeline.
Months after May's funeral, Peter and Mary Jane are dating again, sharing in their hardships. They've also regained their memories of their previous lives when they were married, which motivates them to become more responsible and to be the better parents Liz remembered them to be, vowing to name their next future daughter after her."
Well, how's that for a way to undo One More Day?
Man, if the guys at Marvel had any working brain cells, they'd hire you, make that storyline canon, and pay you a fuck load a money.
Would be SOOOOOO much better than the current crap they've got....
i had a similar idea, Dr Strange and everything! Though I had Mephisto deliberately screwing with Peter even before The Decision, bc the Watson-Parker family were more powerful and more influential than anyone realized.
@@901Sherman Thanks man
I also had another story in mind another a time-traveler who lost his memory during the Incursions of Secret Wars and traveled back in time to help prevent the events from destroying the multiverse but ended up losing his memories because of the time-ripples, and had set the events of One More Day into motion (side note, he time-travelers after Peter's daughter is placed in the time-displacement limbo). I took inspiration from the movie Jumper for this.
"Anyway, the story begins with a mysterious individual breaking into a prison and taking a journal from evidence.
Moving to a different time period, Spider-Man is chasing down the Kingpin who is trying to escape the country since the NYPD has enough evidence to put him away for life. During the fight on a helipad, one of the Kingpin's men is knocked out and his last sight is one of Spider-Man doing a signature move, which triggers a series of memories as a dream sequence. He relieves his childhood and his obsession with discovering what happened to his father, who disappeared during one of his 'missions'. Discovering that he has the same power of time-travel as his father, he began exploring past events and piecing together what his father did, but can't find out where he went on his last mission.
Years later, after the death of his mother, he leaves his life behind and becomes a full-time time-traveler, taking jobs as they came, receiving training from various warriors across time and continuing his mission to find his father. When the Incursions arrived, the time-traveler attempted to go back and warn the Avengers during their peak before Civil War, but ended up doing so just when the Incursions destroyed Earth, seconds away from oblivion. Though saving himself, the Incursions cause ripple-effects across time and affect his brain, causing him to lose all of his memories and impairing his time-traveling abilities.
Waking up years before Civil War, the man is forced to become a professional criminal in order to survive, which catches the attention of the Kingpin due to his skills and intellect. Offering him a job as a bodyguard, the man accepts and eventually becomes one of Kingpin's best men. After the events of Civil War, the man discovers where Peter Parker is hiding and informs the Kingpin, who sends an assassin.
Fast-forward years later, the man is told of the evidence the NYPD has come across from an informant and tells the Kingpin, who immediately begins to leave the country. Fighting off Spider-Man across the city to the helipad, the man engages Spider-Man but is easily defeated, though Kingpin manages to escape. Awakening in the hospital, he finds himself in custody of the NYPD, who have evidence on him as well. Placed on trial, he is found guilty of all charges and is sentenced to death.
While on death row, he begins writing a journal to help piece together his life and regrets, his biggest being that he never discovered what had happened to his father. On the day of his execution, he makes peace with himself and is put on an electric chair. However, as the electricity enters his body, it manages to repair his time-traveling abilities and he disappears from the execution chamber.
A few days later, a mysterious individual enters the prison and takes the journal."
It's just a side story I had in mind that explains how the events of One More Day came to be. I apologize for the long summary detail of the story. I have a sequel in mind to this, that explores the man's journey in trying to find out what happened to his father and also trying to redeem himself of his evil deeds during his time as a criminal. Still working out the details, but I do believe it can lead to a third and final sequel to tie it all up.
TJ Jordan
You should really write for marvel, I’d buy at least 6 copies of this storyline!
This is a real good concept for a story. I'd totally take it over what they seem to be doing now. However, the thing Linkara said he was looking for wasn't just a way to undo the deal. He wanted them to be married again and not teased with "this could've been yours years ago if the writers weren't colossal jerks."
I'd also say that unless it's a big event comic, it may be difficult to pull non-Spidey characters into your story, even as just a cameo. My idea of a plot to undo One More Day would be Spidey dealing with time travel itself by fighting someone through a time stream, and maybe he randomly does something that would get the bad guy but change his personal history so that "Uh-oh! Spider-Man's suddenly not an ex-Stark ex-Ock back-to-schooler, he's a married man now with the girl he's been just dating and he's not mentally ready for commitment!" What I'm trying to say is that the only way Spidey's life turns for the better in his fans' eyes is if it royally screws him over somewhere else.
3:50 3:53 10 Years of using that Spider-Man TAS clip and I still love it and the line, ‘This is starting to sound like a bad comic book plot!’ And it still is.
Now that he has that British BluRay of the whole series, I look forward to an eventual retrospective concerning the 90s series. If only to see how he feels about it now, especially the weird decision to resolve the Felicia, Peter, MJ love triangle was to... have Felicia date Morbius. Yeah, I still feel that was a weak ass subplot, but I'm bias. I've always kinda wanted Felicia and Peter to get together.
"And you are all watching me, watching Skryer, watching Kane, watching The Jackel and Ben Riley..." And TH-cam is watching Us, watching you, watching Skryer, watching Kane, watching The Jackel and Ben Riley and thinking I can't believe we are getting paid for this.
stonecoldku The government is watching TH-cam watching us watching Linkara watching Norman watching Scrier watching Kane watching the jackal and Ben Riley.
"I can't play the Spider-Man game, since I don't have a PS4!"
Same here. Stupid exclusivity deal.
It's not stupid. Sony FUNDED the entire game, were it not for Sony, the game wouldn't even exist. It's not stupid, it's necessary
@@Ashurman666 It's stupid in the sense that Marvel decided to work with Sony to make this game, instead of some 3rd-party developer, which could have made it available on more than one console. Of course, I wouldn't complain about it, if the Xbox One and the Switch had their own exclusive Marvel games. But they don't, so...
+BartmanBegins It's not stupid. Systems NEED exclusives to survive and to keep a healthy level of competition between one another. If there were no exclusives then there might as well not be more than one game system since everything is available on everything. Competition is good. EXCLUSIVES are good, exclusives push companies to do better and better to trump one another. Besides, had they worked with a third party developer, who's to say there wouldn't be any greedy ass bullshit tactics or an inferior product?
@@Ashurman666 'sigh' Listen, I have no problem with exclusive titles for certain consoles. Sony has God of War, Ratchet and Clank, etc. Nintendo has Mario, Zelda, etc. Microsoft has Halo, Gears of War, etc. However, when it comes to LICENSED games, those are the ones that should be available on more than one console. As a Nintendo fan, I honestly wouldn't had any problem if Goldeneye 007 on the N64 was also available on the PS1 back then, even though I'm aware it wouldn't have been possible due to being developped by Rareware, who was working for Nintendo at the time.
"Besides, had they worked with a third party developer, who's to say there wouldn't be any greedy ass bullshit tactics or an inferior product?"
Three words: Batman Arkham Asylum.
+BartmanBegins Sorry but just because one game was good under a third party developer it doesn't give you ANY guarantee whatsoever that the same thing would have happened for Spider-Man. Yeah i get it, it sucks you can't play it but that's how the "game" is played.Exclusives aren't going to dissapear, they are going to continue to be a thing and there is no point whatsoever in complaining, bitching,moaning or crying about it
If you read life of Reilly, this story is right where the writers lost control editors took over the whole thing.
Smoke and Mirrors, sounds more like a Mysterio story, not a Jackel story...
I know it's a missed opportunity
After ten years, out of all your reviews I think your best one has been "Holy Terror". Even with the rising production value's of your show, I still say it's your magnum opus. Sort of like how "Wrath of Khan" was only the second "Star Trek" movie yet is still considered the best by most people.
"What the funking wagnle is _that_ supposed to mean?!"
This summarizes my reaction as well.
Okay for some reason this reminds of that one episode of Buzz Lightyear Of Star Command. The one when he fought his evil universe doppelganger, who had traveled to the regular universe to get revenge on his good counterpart for stopping his evil schemes and saving that universe from his influence.
I don't know why, but I hope that Linkara will get really paranoid about a pen being part of a evil plan.
I get that reference and I love it,
I love that show.
Crystal Keyblade who doesn’t?
“How can I destroy the universe without my PEN?”
I'm cool that you're re-reviewing the issue that started it all, 10 years all where you've gotten your review style down to pat and gotten better. Is it also sad that these days, when I think of Gwen Stacy, I think of her alternate-universe Ghost-Spider counterpart instead of 616 dead Gwen Stacy and all these clone shenanigans?
Also gotta applaud the storyline.Totally didn't' expect the ending.
Pio Nepomuceno when I think Gwen Stacy I think of the time she cheated on peter with the green goblin and had his twins
@@mikecahall542 Just for the sake of the MCU, they may just have Gwen just be some version of Spider-Gwen since the "original" was used to horrible effect with the AMAZING SPIDER MAN 2.
So yeah i would love to see Spider Gwen brought to the next stage of the MCU movies, it would be pretty awesome actually
Oof. That's another thing you've improved about. Your acting. I couldn't call your acting in earlier storyline segments bad, but it really has brought the darker, more desperate, and creepy elements of your villains to life. Mechakara's rage and insanity here was genuinely terrifying. Your characters have gone from fun little skits and sketches with a touch of action and drama to full blown epics.
i like to think he just reused some other supervillain lair that was foreclosed
Emperor Xander he could’ve cloned money
Or resources
If I ever get high up into the comics industry, I'll write that in and hopefully I'll remember to credit you.
Reduce reuse recycle!
[sniff] The opening and closing message are just beautiful. We love you, man!
Again, Happy 10 Year Anniversary Linkara.
Evil-kara was behind this........I've should've known that he would return with his beard and gold vest with him! HOW COULD I'VE BEEN SO BLIND?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Peter: 'Why do you keep doing this to us?!'
Spidey fans have been asking that question for years.
Thank you for being so committed to making these for 10 years. I must have found this channel about three years ago and have watched every episode. Here's to ten more.
That ending! THAT TWIST ED SHOCKING SNOW FLAMING MAGIC GUNNING MAN PUNCHING ENDING!!!!!!!
I hoped he'd show up soon
Where has SNOW FLAME been all this time?
Oh right... doesn't he have a COOKING WITH SNOW FLAME show?
Congrats Lewis... you've inspired me to work on my own comic script, and it's coming together rather well.
thank you for all you've taught us about comics.
Nice,hope it’s going well
@@meowistforlife
It’s quite good, overall.
Well...that was a twist I didn't coming. Nice one. I've been watching your show since right around the time they were looking to create the Nostalgic Chick. So I do remember watching your stuff from pretty much the beginning. You were always my favorite out of all of them. Probably because of these storylines that you do. I loved a lot of the things you believed in. I loved the jokes you pulled off and the references you made. You made me wanted to try my own hand and wanting to do reviews even if they just boiled down to my own text reviews on deviant art. You reignited my love for power rangers & comics, You always brightened my day which a lot of us needs at time. I'm glad to have found your stuff and I looked forward to seeing more over the years. Thanks Linkara! Happy 10.
I said it before and I’ll certainly say it again..
Well this is it, 10 Years of.. I AM A MAN, The Magic Gun, Combine Harvester, Bees My god, Adamantiun Rage, Batman Hating Rock N Roll, Pollo, MechaKara, Dr Linksano, 90’s Kid, Harvey, Frank Miller, Rob Liefeld, Gary Brodski, History of Power Rangers, One More Day, The Clone Saga, The Tandy Computer Whiz Kids, Silent Hill, Thing Tucker, The T-Force, Crazy Steve & Dick Greyson aged 12, Marville, Secret Origins, Doomkara, Missing Number, Pokemon, Dr Who, Star Trek, And hating the New 52, And yet after all that this is still starting to sound like a bad comic book plot!
you forgot One-Face
You forgot Magnificent Bastard, have you read his book? Haha
I got most of those references (very funny by the way) but who is Doomkara?
Matthew Opalinski When Linkara dressed up as Dr Doom in a few reviews hint DoomKara.
Don't forget "Of course. Don't you know anything about SCIENCE?"
Here's to the next 10 years linkara, and hopefully one more day will be undone....... Eventually
Nick Spencer might actually be trying to fix that, too. What with that weird character tormenting Spidey's villains and referencing some "contract". I heard that said character is somehow related to Mephisto anyway, but that might have been speculation.
@ULGROTHA that's a fair point, but that might be why he's steering it that way instead of outright doing it already. Also, I'm pretty sure Quesada is no longer Editor in Chief, right? Granted, I'm not totally up to date on all the ins and outs of all that. I'm unaware as to whether he's still working with Marvel in any capacity 🤷♂️.
@@alexandredesbiens-brassard9109 The CCO isn't really the boss of the EIC. He oversees a lot of stuff, sure, and he's the figurehead, but he doesn't;t have real input on stores and the overall direction. Anyway, Quesada is no longer CCO.
Here’s to another few more decades of bad comic burning 👌
The Fabulous Gold Vest returns.
Well the fabulous gold sash anyway.
In regards to the base Miles has here. Could he just be squatting in one of Wilson Fisk’s hangouts? Like seriously in the 90’s Spider Man cartoon, the Kingpin has secret high tech bases in every corner of Manhattan, Warrren probably just found an empty one and set up shop. Different mediums sure but I wouldn’t be surprised if Wilson didn’t have a few of those in comics too
Considering all the supervillain plots and lairs in the Marvel Universe, even money he appropriated it.
I love learning the fact that you started off with text reviews. This clone stuff is crazy but your take on it is ‘a bad comic book plot done well’😊
The pod person is the flash! God damnit Barry! 😂
For the past two months, I've been thinking up plot points for what I'd do if I ever became the Amazing Spider-Man writer, and funnily enough, one of my ideas is to finally undo that stupid "Aunt May actress" retcon. My other ideas involve Spidey going to therapy, Peter finally remembering his deal with Mephisto, and the Spider-Baby still being alive.
Yeah, I don't think Marvel Editorial would let me be the Amazing Spider-Man writer.
For anyone who's wondering:
1) Aunt May has been a Clone since 1998.
2) Aunt May's cancer from Tom Taylor's run will return, and the deja vu will give Peter memory flashes of OMD.
3) The Spider-Baby has been in the custody of the Scrier cult all this time.
Also, I'm gonna bring back Kaine. We haven’t seen him since Spider-Geddon, and I'd like to see what became of him.
The best part is that other writers have already planted the seeds for my stories.
1) The Post-Clone- Saga era dropped hints that the baby was still alive, and the Scrier cult hasn't been seen since 2000.
2) Mephisto has been plaguing multiple Spider-Men over in Spider-Man/Deadpool, Champions and Ben Reilly: Scarlet Spider.
3) Dan Slott wrote a scene where Peter had a vague feeling about making some kind of deal, with not-so-subtle hints that he was talking about One More Day.
4) Everything Nick Spencer did, especially having Doctor Strange realising that something was wrong, and finally giving Mephisto a motivation for starting that deal.
All I'd need to worry about now is if Jason Aaron ruins my plans with his Avengers run.
You were watching them in your clone pod for 5 years? .....ok, questions:
1- How? I think either of them would notice a freakin drone following them around considering both have spider senses and even without them a drone that shouldn't exist that's carrying an old camera set up weighing a small planet...yeah that's not the kind of thing you miss. And if you're saying it was inside them the whole time, both have gone through examinations before so again, not the kind of thing you miss!
2-Again...how? You were watching them in your clone pod...like... as you were cloning? Did you flip through channels and look down like "Hey, my vital organs have finally started growing back.. neat."
3- Why? I get being a villian and plotting your revenge is a thing, but you spent the better part of 5 years in story time watching these two go about their lives. Peter's mundane life as a freelance photographer.... who occasionally gets to do something cool when a villain attacks.... which doesn't happen every day so....riveting. Also given the playboy tag, I can only imagine you were perving on Mary Jane this entire time too so..... dude she's taken, not cool.
4- You programmed them to return to you when you awoke from the pod.... what were you gonna do if they decided to not be idiots and just get rid of you immediately? You took a good punch there until they stopped, so there's nothing suggesting that you're any stronger than you were last time.....wait!
5- You programmed them to show up.... if you can just mindjack someone to get them to come to your birthday party half a decade down the road, why can Peter hit you at all?!? Why wasn't "Hey, maybe don't beat me up." one of the first things you tossed in there while you had him at your mercy. You know... on the off chance they could, I don't know....BLOW YOU THE HELL UP!! (Also the non-violence chip in Ben since... well yeah, this is not the first time you've met/ gotten curb stomped. I restate... boom~)
6- Why do any of this? Literally all you did in these comics was mess with them for the lols. I get that's the point.....but why though? You gained nothing from this experience except a destroyed lab
And
7- HOW THE HELL WERE YOU A COLLEGE PROFESSOR IF THIS WAS THE BEST REVENGE YOU COULD COME UP WITH AFTER FIVE YEARS OF DOING NOTHING BUT PLOTTING IT?!?! You'd think someone who made his living teaching youths would have a little more depth than an internet troll. ....then again 98% of your students will never care enough to retain the material from your biology course, so maybe that really is the best you can do.
(Also, I'm just saying. You could have achieved the same effect by just showing them an issue of Trouble.... Congrats on the anniversary Linkara~)
It just raises too many questions.
Well, that happened. From discovering you with your review of Transformers #4 & 5 and teaching me about the scummy practices of Pat Lee to the here and now, crazy ride. Happy 10th anniversary and here's to 10 more.
No "The End" credit. I see what you did there. Very nice.
5:53: OVERTkill. OVERTKILL. Yeah, that's how bad the 90s could get.
It was supposed to be Overkill, but that was copyrighted.
@@lordultimus559 To TASERFACE! Hahahahahaha! The gift that kept on giving.
Happy Anniversary, Louis! You have a quality show, and the quality has just gotten better and better over the years! Keep on, my friend!
I used to believe that the best/only way to erase One More Day was that it was Peter who got shot, not Aunt May and he has been in a coma all these years while Ben Riley has been acting as Spiderman. This would simultaneously make people disbelieve that Peter was ever Spiderman and given what happened to Peter it could tie back into how Civil War was wrong. The whole Mephisto thing was not only just a dream, it was a dream manipulated by Mephisto and he has been living large off Peter's broken mind ever since, while Aunt May watches over his unconscious body every day in the hospital, and MJ raises their daughter and cries herself to sleep at night until one day Peter's finger twitches, the mind returning due to some event in The Avengers or Fantastic Four or something.
I pretty much have the same opinion now, except I believe that with MJ's pleading some of the heroes should try to use the Mind Stone to restore Peter and that this will reveal not only that there are parallel worlds involved, all the stories told since then are either Ben or in Peter's dream universe which may be the real history of Ben Riley if he was never a clone., also raises possibilities with other poorly summed up plot threads like Judas Traveler.
Or something, needs refinement by someone who knows the continuity and is a better writer than I, but the Infinity Stones offer possibilities.
Ultimately though it still has to be that he never made the deal, he just dreamed it which is why it made no sense.
About the Jackal's outfit: Looks to me like the artist was inspired by Edward Scissorhands and The Crow. The Matrix didn't invent the look, it just was the first movie to have everyone in said outfit and the popularity of the movie inspired Hollywood in all the wrong ways, as per usual. Every time a movie is a huge success, Hollywood thinks it's due to aesthetics instead of the movie having a good story and great acting.
Oh, you truly ARE The Man! After 10 years of plot twists and storylines, you still make me laugh and wonder what comes next. Good job sir, hope to follow you for the next 10 years and beyond! Congratulations Lewis, Linkara, That Guy With The Hat!!! All love!
I'd found out about you, Lewis, through your crossovers with the Nostalgia Critic. Since then I've come to enjoy your content much more. I went from your NC crossovers to your "History of Power Rangers" videos, to checking out your review of the KISS comics, to checking out your "Charles Barkley vs. Godzilla" comic review to just deciding to watch all the rest of your stuff and become a regular viewer. I got to see so much from you and was entertained the entire time. I hope to see much more in the years to come. Congratulations on the 10 year anniversary, Lewis. You deserved to last this long and deserve to last longer still.
You have no idea how hard I'm kicking myself right now for not seeing Mirrorkara coming.
Erin's heel turn? Oh, yeah. I was actually expecting that well before now. And I knew that Mirrorkara would eventually return seeking vengeance. I just never thought to put those things together. Well done.
And happy 10th, man. It's been a helluva ride, and I've no intention of stepping off.
Happy 10th Anniversary Mr.Linkara. Your reviews helped me learn about various Comic Book franchises & characters and the people that worked on them.
Thank you, man. I've been watching since 09, and I feel privileged to have done so.
Jackal seems like a male Mary Sue, Gary Stew, for a villain. A super strong, hyper intelligent, supposedly charismatic bad guy who has plans on plans on plans.
Excpet his plans keep failing.
Congrats on the ten years Lewis. You're doing a fantastic job & you provide me with much needed entertainment.
Ever since I started watching this channel last year. I learned a lot about comics both from you and the followers//comments section. Happy 10th anniversary, Linkara! You've earned!
I'll say it one more time here:
Happy ten years, Linkara. I know a lot of TH-camrs who would be burn out by now, but you are part of rare breed of TH-cams that have been going on for ten years and still have plans for the future. Also, for just one dude, you have made incredible story telling skill, from the ones involving Vice to the Entity, all really well done. I am fan of yours because we like the same franchise, Doctor Who. It was also thanks to you that got me into Star trek as well. I tip my hat off to you Linkara for still going and here's to another ten more years
man, I remember first seeing you in the nostalgia critic superman 4 review happy 10 year anniversary Linkara.
JOURNEY THROUGH THE DECADE!! Er... Wrong show. Happy 10 year anniversary, Linkara!
Wow, what a journey... I sometimes wonder if there was anything that could have made you stop doing this all together, but I am glad you're still around after all this time.
He's hoping for 10 more years and beyond! As long as they keep making comics, may there always be Atop the Fourth Wall.
"Hey did you get that bit where Jackal lies and Peter grabs him done?"
"Yeah?"
"Cool, do that 20 more times and we've got a story."
Who’s, the Jackle lied about this entire thing!?
Blowing my mind!!!
That aside, I am proud to have stuck with you and the show for so long. I may not have watched every single episode, but all I have, I love it.
Happy ten years, Lewis and years to another ten!
25:59 Like the little callback to The King of Worms arc...and by that extent, Exorcist 3 as well 🙂
Somehow...the Jackal Returned
12:53 "You're annoying me..." And also everyone reading.
Huh, Didn’t think we see Evil-kara again, Haven’t seen him since Linkara’s 300th episode.
*IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I LAST SAW YOU!!* 🎵
Should we be that concerned? Last time he went down pretty easily, if memory serves.
@@artsman412 Unless it turns out he's some kind of mastermind and was faking last time, probably not.
JamesTheBrony/JTB
Hate to be that guy but his name is actually Mirrorkara.
Pikachu2Ash You call him you’re way I’ll call him mine.
Linkara lives in a comic book world. It's the best explanation for all the weirdness that happens around and to him on a regular basis.
28:36 Oh my god... The true villain of this saga sounds just like Linkara! That narrows it down to... literally all of them.
Thank you so much for this show. It means so much to me and I am sure it means as much if not more to the rest of your fandom and I cannot wait to see what is next! Also spoilers:
it is so great to see Evil-Kara is finally taking his rightful place as a big bad in addition to the return of (not quite as)mecha-kara from last week
5:00 now all I can think about is a super-villain who alliterates his every sentence.
10 years. I think I've been watching for like 9. Damn time flies.
Holy crap what’s going on?! Who is making her do this!? I’m so excited!!
28:37
And now this is goddamn hilarious! Great shift there man, love your stuff
My God after 9 and a half years of watching this show I still smile each year when we get that classic Spiderman the animated series line and if it was not there the review would be incomplete. Great review like always.
To get through more of the Clone Saga you should do an entire theme month on it.
Also, congrats on the ten years.
You've been perhaps my most consistent source of internet fun.
Reminder that Kylo Ren's tantrums are heavily exaggerated and serve very specific plot purposes. Putting it simply, in TFA, his first tantrum we laugh with him, but after he loses Rey, we laugh at him.
You know what makes "Norman Osborn was behind the whole Clone Saga as revenge against Peter" even stupider? In the year 2000, they released a storyline called 'Revenge of the Green Goblin" that was ALSO about Norman trying to get revenge on Peter by knocking him out and torturing him for days, possibly weeks or even months, in order to turn him into his heir as the next goblin. I actually owned those issues, thinking it was the Green Goblin's first return in comics, and I really loved the dynamic between the two characters and cemented to me that the Green Goblin truly was Spider-Man's rival. And then you compare it THIS complete and utter mess of a story and all I could do was wonder how they dropped the ball so hard.
This was a great 10th Anniversary for the show.
Congrats on 10 years! And here's to many more!
And to think, about 8 years ago I only watched an episode of this show because I was all caught up on the Nostalgia Critic and Spoony. While a lot of the memories I have of my time regularly visiting the old TGWTG site are tainted now, for various reasons, I'm happy that for the most part the people whose work I found there are still producing content, and have only gotten better. And that includes this show. Congrats on 10 Years of doing something you love.
And also for surviving Marville. Just looking at the scans was painful, I can only imagine what it must've felt like to read that shite.
Dude, I have and will always be here for your storylines at the end of these reviews! These always have a good twist and/or insightful dialogue woven throughout. One day I'll be telling my kids about the countless hours I spent watching this show as it is now, and they'll be flabbergasted at the humble beginnings this show started from and will probably think of it as it's own legacy show like doctor who or power rangers. Looking forward to when you can have you 20th anniversary and be wondering how the hell you ever got by without cast and crew and professional animators and whatnot!😜
Yeah no kidding about the therapist thing. Peter has got to have one of the most messed up psyches in all of Marvel, it's a wonder ow he still even FUNCTIONS!
I have not been watching your videos for the whole ten years but I have watched almst all of them and I am glad I did. Here is to 10 more years!
But man, Linkara is gonna need a major vacation after that is over. The guy can´t catch a break.
Ultimate ret-con I wanna see: spider-man is facing off against an organization with and lots of high tech. He finds the person helping to supply them with troops... Miles Warren. The real Miles Warren.
He was a researcher who was offered a teaching position when he made a breakthrough in cloning. Realizing he could make mint off that, but having already accepted the esu offer, the answer was obvious. Clone himself, have the clone be the teacher, and become a big name in the underworld.
He didn't think the clone would be unstable and obsessive. Or that it would remember his cloning techniques. Or track down his funding from the originals underworld dealing and use them for a stupid revenge plot.
I mean, it makes more sense then this
You know Scrier was such a waste of ink and paper, when you realize the most notable thing about him, was that he was killed by some dude named Gaunt. Not kidding, just looked up a fandom page of his, and that was the only other piece of info on him besides, "He befriended Judas Traveler".
I thought it was a cult, not one guy. Didnt the scriers take baby may away from the hospital too?
Ooh evil linkara from the mirror universe this should be interesting
Happy 10th anniversary. I've been a fan for... Huh, not sure, really. I think since you reviewed Watchmen. And heard of you before that, thanks to The Three Schmuckheads. And it's been an amazing ride so far. Unless something happens to the internet, you, me, or all of the above, I'm not going anywhere.
0:46 - Personally, while I can see the Matrix parallels, the jackal in this shot looks like some weird hybrid of the Green Goblin & Spike from Buffy.
0:59 The zippers look a lot like those plastic strips you used to pull to make those flywheel cars run. Like you could pull the one on his shoulder and his arm would just fly off down the hallway.
Always love your sincerity Lewis. Great video. Here's to the future!
I was actually thinking "in that case, who's watching me?". In hindsight, probably the IRS.
WOW, you actually surprised me with that ending! I think I can say we all kinda saw the 'clone' being Mecha coming but definitely did not see THAT twist! :D
9:25 I don't know Linkara. As much as the solution is to get help from a psychologist is viable, I somehow feel worried on that idea. The fact that Spiderman is a masked, unknown vigilante to the public, who has to spill all of his issues to a random person can be a good thing or a bad thing.
Good: Take Young Justice, when the members talk to Black Canary.
Bad: Take Batman Beyond when he spoke to Spellbinder.
It's either they have their back, or they could use that mental state as a weakness.
1:30 Fun fact, I was eating something when I heard you ask that.
Big mistake.
Congratulations on 10 years!!! I love Longbox of the Damned, Power Rangers and all the crazy PSA Comics! Looking forward to the next decade of AT4W
Congratulations on the 10 years Lewis, I have no idea how long I've watched you but I know it's been awhile. Here's to ten more and then some!
The Scarlet Spider and his costume are awesome. Ben Reilly is one of my all time favorite Spidey characters, hell he's one of my favorite heroes period. Ben is awesome, the Clone Saga however is not. Talk about a waste of a great character, and to this day I still see hate for Ben not because of who he is but because of his association with this storyline.
Also, hot damn, Lewis, you were right. You can see the wound effects much better in these shots. That's actually, uh, very unnerving. Good job
I love this show.Happy 10TH Anniversary of Atop The Fourth Wall!!!
Evil-kara is the actual main villain of an arc????
Thats not something I was expecting, but I'll be honest Erin is a character I've kind of ignored and assumed wasnt important despite being such a constant presence these last few arcs, so any alternate motivations that were set up with her are things I was ignoring without realizing it.
This arc had two twists. One we all wanted and one I dont think any of us saw coming, plus a bunch of character development for two supporting characters that needed it, not to mention Linkara and his two doppelgangers. Cant wait to see the conclusion.
This was great! Thanks for all the content, Linkara. And a very, very late congratulations on the anniverssary!
22:26 Oh wow. That's quite an accomplishment. Congratulations man. :D
*10:34* really I am pretty sure he tells jack FETCH!
@23:30 - WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! Here's to a decade of batshit crazy comics, and here's to another decade more! Though, one thing I'd advise to improve over the next ten years? Re-balance the Opening Title Theme and the Closing Credits Theme. If I set my volume to hear you comfortably, the music is too soft. If I set my volume to listen to the music comfortably, you're too loud. Bit of an oddity I've noticed for a long time now.
@29:21 - WHOA!! I did _not_ see him coming back!
Happy 10th Anniversary! Hopefully we shall see the 1000th episode somewhere in the future...and maybe 100th Anniversary episode
Holy crap, I had that same card set as a kid too. Also, sweet jumpin jehosaphat that ending!
I think I know how to make this better. This is one of the only times where exposition works, because it’s already been shown. Ben Reilly is already around as well. It goes like this:
Peter Parker and Ben Reilly are drawn to a location through their spider sense, as they are in Smoke and Mirrors. They pair do the tiniest bit of research and are not surprised to find that the location had at one point been owned by Miles Warren. They talk about how they won’t be fooled again, with Peter especially trying to keep stonefaced under his mask, and they go in, not sure of what they’ll find.
What they do find is that the lab is in functional disrepair. However, they are able to see that the electricity is still going. This is also when they discover that there are also barely functional speakers set up when they hear a familiar voice saying that it is glad that they didn’t keep him waiting... This is when the lighting redirects their attention to a block of machinery and storage containers set under, as many of you can probably guess, a jar holding the wired up brain of Miles Warren, aka the Jackal.
The Jackal welcomes the spider men to his last refuge and apologizes that he can’t offer them something to drink. When asked how the hell he called them here, he simply says that he did various experiments with their spider sense through clones over the years and that he figured it out enough to send simple impressions, relying on their dependence on it to draw them here. Before they ask, he says that he is, of course, a clone of the original Miles Warren, but explains that many of the other Jackals have been clones of him, though he’s been drifting back and forth across the line of sanity for years and most of those clones were made during particularly mad points in his prolonged life. He’s been getting by on a bit of fraud that he cooked up years ago, having degenerating clones do temp work and then spending all of their money on classes at ESU and other colleges while he could still have clone professors there. While he had amassed substantial resources through this, the scheme fell apart soon after the original Jackal’s death way back when. Keeping things going hasn’t been too costly, but it’s no longer possible. The clone is dying and has called them there for a deathbed confession.
For Ben, he apologizes. He had made him as an enduring clone to get revenge on Peter and realized that that’s been horrible to Ben. With the little money that was left from the original Warren’s scam, the clone Jackal has set Ben up with an independent life with records as Peter’s “cousin.” Ben is shocked to the point of crying. His burden as Peter’s clone is lifted and he can enjoy life.
For Peter, he has no apology. He has no gift. He doesn’t even have remorse for what he’s done. He only has just one thing to say: “How are things with your wife?”
From there, the Jackal just giggles until his final moment as Ben supports Peter out of the lair, rocked by the Jackal’s final revenge.