The Dwarven city that Elrond visits is actually Khazad-dum, which is eventually named Moria after it's fall. This is where the fellowship fights the cavetroll and Gandalf confronts the Balrog in the first Lord of the rings film ☺️ Durin is one of the ancient Dwarven lines that Thorin derives from. ☺️
@@Migman2020 I am hoping for the same thing!! It would definitely be later in the series I think but a big possibility! I'd love to see it!! We did get a Balrog in the trailer so we'll see!
I think that "the stranger" is one of the blue wizards. It is the 2nd age, and Gandalf doesn't arrive in Middle Earth until the 3rd age. The blue wizards were thought to have arrived in the 2nd age, plus the writers would be free to develop the blue wizard(s) into whatever they need for the story since not much was written about them.
The show is about 6000 years before the Lord the Rings. The Balrog demon in LOTR Gandalf fights is nick named ''Durins Bane'' by the Dwarves. Because it killed a dwarf called Durin.
I like the intro for the reference to the Ainulindalë, the creation of the world by Eru Ilúvatar (god) and the Ainur (his first creations) who sing it into being. The intro shows the use of vibrations to create patterns in the sand which is a real phenomenon you could google. Edit: I like the black sand snaking through which would be Melkor (Morgoth) sewing discord into the song. You're right it's not catchy but I appreciate the reference
So, unless they are majorly messing with the timeline, ironically one of the only identities we can rule out for the meteor guy is Gandalf since he didn't arrive until much later. But the problem is that the writers of the show are doing a good job of giving us information on the meteor guy that comes from both the good and the bad end of the spectrum. For example, on one hand we have the animal whispering, which is a very wizardy thing to do (Gandalf used this magic in almost every movie). But on the other hand, when Nori steps into the crater after the meteor man falls, she points out that the fire and the coals aren't hot at all. At the beginning of episode one, one of the Elf soldiers in Galadriel's company points out that their torches give off no warmth, which Galadriel points out is because of the strength of the evil lingering there. Since Nori (likely) isn't supremely evil, we have to assume that meteor man would be the source of evil stealing warmth from the crater (if its the same cause as before). So we have both good and evil attributes for our mystery meteor man.
The blue wizards are the only Istari that come in the second age I believe. In any case, it seems more likely to me that it is Sauron taking on a new, human looking form to do what he'll do.
I really enjoy watching you guys. Thx for the history of the show because I didn't know the characters or the in depth knowledge. Thx again and I will continue to watch u guys.
27:29 Morgoth stole silmarils (3 gems filled with the light of two trees). They are most certainly not in this chest. But don't worry you will see what Dwarves found later in the show. It is essential part of the story.
I'm just going to jump out there and say that I think this wizard is saruman. He even sounds like he's trying to tell her his name when he frustratingly relates Ure Mann to Nori. Additionally, if the series follows the books with respect to wizards, Saruman was the first of his order in Middle earth. I really wish it were gandalf, though.
@@Makkaru112 it's been a while since I read The Silmarillion, but I thought I remembered the Istari entering Middle Earth around the time of the fall of Numenor. My timeline is hazy, then. I also forgot how long the 2nd and 3rd age were. The more I go back and read up on it, the less I like the series. Still, it's something to watch that at least looks Middle-Earthy. Guess this is what happens when you let money and other agendas supercede accuracy.
The Blue Wizards were send on the Second Age, elfs can have beards, the thing on the sea is a kind of dragon mentioned on The Unfinished Tales, what the elves hide is not a Silmaril of Feänor, the 3 were lost long ago
@@Makkaru112 Cirdan is the only one that we know but any elf old enough could have it, this is what we are told about in The Nature of Middle-earth, so yes, it is perfectly possible that an elf with a beard comes out, although surely it is only Cirdan it would be lore friendly that there were some more in case of being just as old
Meteor man is one of the 6 Maiar They are Sauron, Saruman, Gandalf, Radagast, Alatar and Pallando.. Alatar and Pallando came first after Sauron who of course went evil a long time ago. It’s a bit to on the nose and too soon to be Gandalf but if it is great..
Prince Duran was in the hobbit movies and karag dum is Moria where Gandalf said you shall not pass 😂 also nori the dwarf from the hobbit movies was writing in the book in Moria in LOTR before everyone was killed there that book that Gandalf was reading before they fight the troll
legolas physcially cannot be shown in this show as he wouldnt be born for at least another thousand years. this is set in the second age whereas legolas wasnt born till the beginning of the third age.
Might as well. It'd make it a shite ton more believable. Least make it good fanfiction based on something in the lore, and anchor it for us and the normies to enjoy and get inspired to read the real books or check out the audiobooks such as by Phoenix Cast and the lore by Tolkien Untangled and many others.
The Wizards did not arrive until the third age. so It's not Gandalf or any of the Wizards :) Tolkien did write about the Harrfoots. They are Hobbits, just a different tribe. A nodmadic tribe.
@@hint1k Nah. Third Age begins when Sauron is defeated at Mount Doom when Isildur cut the ring off his finger. This show is like 4000 years in the past.
@@The.Crawling.Chaos. more like 5000 years to be precise. But instead of showing 5000 years filled with 1 event per 100 years, the screen writers are very likely went another way. By turning 5000 years into something like 10-20 years and pressing all the events closer to each other. This way allows to keep all the major characters alive at the same time - elves, dwarves, men, etc from start of the show to its finish.
@@vulamnguyen9453 Also third age. No they did not arrive in the second age despite what some would be fans claim. Do the research if you don't believe me.
Having Howard Shore come back to do the music again was the best choice they could have made with this show. Say what you want about the plot but the music is top tier 🤌
The Dwarven city that Elrond visits is actually Khazad-dum, which is eventually named Moria after it's fall. This is where the fellowship fights the cavetroll and Gandalf confronts the Balrog in the first Lord of the rings film ☺️ Durin is one of the ancient Dwarven lines that Thorin derives from. ☺️
i wonder if we see them awaken the balrog in this series as that is going to be quite the spectacle
@@Migman2020 I am hoping for the same thing!! It would definitely be later in the series I think but a big possibility! I'd love to see it!! We did get a Balrog in the trailer so we'll see!
I think that "the stranger" is one of the blue wizards. It is the 2nd age, and Gandalf doesn't arrive in Middle Earth until the 3rd age.
The blue wizards were thought to have arrived in the 2nd age, plus the writers would be free to develop the blue wizard(s) into whatever they need for the story since not much was written about them.
Can't wait to see Snape and Galadriel to go face off in a magic battle.
You mean guyladriel who's dream was to become just like Fëanor and finish what he started.
The dwarven realm they entered is not Erebor, but Khazad Dûm, which in the third age is known as More, or mines of Moria.
I think the kid will be the King of Angmar eventually, that blade is gonna corrupt his ass lol
Jane's "You Shall Not Pass!" was epic-level trolling, hope you feel better soon :)
The show is about 6000 years before the Lord the Rings.
The Balrog demon in LOTR Gandalf fights is nick named ''Durins Bane'' by the Dwarves. Because it killed a dwarf called Durin.
I think the stranger will turn out to be…TOM BOMBADIL
I like the intro for the reference to the Ainulindalë, the creation of the world by Eru Ilúvatar (god) and the Ainur (his first creations) who sing it into being. The intro shows the use of vibrations to create patterns in the sand which is a real phenomenon you could google.
Edit: I like the black sand snaking through which would be Melkor (Morgoth) sewing discord into the song. You're right it's not catchy but I appreciate the reference
So, unless they are majorly messing with the timeline, ironically one of the only identities we can rule out for the meteor guy is Gandalf since he didn't arrive until much later. But the problem is that the writers of the show are doing a good job of giving us information on the meteor guy that comes from both the good and the bad end of the spectrum. For example, on one hand we have the animal whispering, which is a very wizardy thing to do (Gandalf used this magic in almost every movie). But on the other hand, when Nori steps into the crater after the meteor man falls, she points out that the fire and the coals aren't hot at all. At the beginning of episode one, one of the Elf soldiers in Galadriel's company points out that their torches give off no warmth, which Galadriel points out is because of the strength of the evil lingering there. Since Nori (likely) isn't supremely evil, we have to assume that meteor man would be the source of evil stealing warmth from the crater (if its the same cause as before). So we have both good and evil attributes for our mystery meteor man.
If my theory is right word of advice don't trust the sailor who saved Gladariel I think he's Sauron in disguise looks can be deceiving
The blue wizards are the only Istari that come in the second age I believe. In any case, it seems more likely to me that it is Sauron taking on a new, human looking form to do what he'll do.
I love the part at Durin's house, team Disa 😁
love the Lumias on the shelves behind you guys !!!!
I really enjoy watching you guys. Thx for the history of the show because I didn't know the characters or the in depth knowledge. Thx again and I will continue to watch u guys.
Please watch Tolkien Untangled and Clueless FanGirl for the depth of lore, especially the one fangirl did with Voice Of Geekdom about Finrod.
@@Makkaru112 Will do. Thx
The dragon was played by Doctor Strange hahaha
But gollum was played by claw from Black panther
27:29 Morgoth stole silmarils (3 gems filled with the light of two trees). They are most certainly not in this chest. But don't worry you will see what Dwarves found later in the show. It is essential part of the story.
I'm just going to jump out there and say that I think this wizard is saruman. He even sounds like he's trying to tell her his name when he frustratingly relates Ure Mann to Nori. Additionally, if the series follows the books with respect to wizards, Saruman was the first of his order in Middle earth. I really wish it were gandalf, though.
None in the 2nd age. Sorry man. Never happened. Much like alot of things in this funky arsed series
@@Makkaru112 it's been a while since I read The Silmarillion, but I thought I remembered the Istari entering Middle Earth around the time of the fall of Numenor. My timeline is hazy, then. I also forgot how long the 2nd and 3rd age were.
The more I go back and read up on it, the less I like the series. Still, it's something to watch that at least looks Middle-Earthy.
Guess this is what happens when you let money and other agendas supercede accuracy.
what tier on patreon is spiderman NWH available on? because Im on go prime but still not there
Try to not to skip to the next age. This is thousands of years before Gandalf and most of the characters your brains are stuck on.
It's good to see Jane using her natural voice instead of pitching it up a lot. Great reaction.
Sadly the pitchy one is real. This is my post Covid voice (day 3 of testing negative) - the coughing did a number on me. Maybe it will stay 🤷🏼♀️
The Blue Wizards were send on the Second Age, elfs can have beards, the thing on the sea is a kind of dragon mentioned on The Unfinished Tales, what the elves hide is not a Silmaril of Feänor, the 3 were lost long ago
Nope. Only one has ever and he was born with the first three elves to have woken to the stars and he is named Cîrdan
@@Makkaru112 Cirdan is the only one that we know but any elf old enough could have it, this is what we are told about in The Nature of Middle-earth, so yes, it is perfectly possible that an elf with a beard comes out, although surely it is only Cirdan it would be lore friendly that there were some more in case of being just as old
That's my boy (2012) PLEASE!!!!
Plz switch back sides of the room my eyes are confused hahaha
1:08 🤣🤣🤣
Meteor man is one of the 6 Maiar They are Sauron, Saruman, Gandalf, Radagast, Alatar and Pallando.. Alatar and Pallando came first after Sauron who of course went evil a long time ago. It’s a bit to on the nose and too soon to be Gandalf but if it is great..
Gandalf did not show up till the third Age the only wizard that did in the second age were the 2 blue wizards so sadly not gandalf
It's cute that you believe that the showrunners care at all about that, because they dont. So that probably is Gandalf.
@@jagatech9345 I guess we will see 👀
Prince Duran was in the hobbit movies and karag dum is Moria where Gandalf said you shall not pass 😂 also nori the dwarf from the hobbit movies was writing in the book in Moria in LOTR before everyone was killed there that book that Gandalf was reading before they fight the troll
When will you upload the spiderman no way home reaction?
legolas physcially cannot be shown in this show as he wouldnt be born for at least another thousand years. this is set in the second age whereas legolas wasnt born till the beginning of the third age.
Might as well. It'd make it a shite ton more believable. Least make it good fanfiction based on something in the lore, and anchor it for us and the normies to enjoy and get inspired to read the real books or check out the audiobooks such as by Phoenix Cast and the lore by Tolkien Untangled and many others.
dude it's Galadriel, not GalaNdriel
Lady of Light, Lady of Lorien, Attorney at Law, Princess of Noldor are also appropriate. Ok almost all of them :D
Got it wrong. It's Guyladriel and she's the one who's dreamed to replace Fêanor all along.
@@hint1k nah, this one is none of those things. And nor has she that feminine power.
Don't u guys really want to put no way home reaction on youtube after so while?
React to RRR movie asap it's on netflix too good
The Age of Wokeness is over. The Age of man is here.
The Wizards did not arrive until the third age. so It's not Gandalf or any of the Wizards :)
Tolkien did write about the Harrfoots. They are Hobbits, just a different tribe. A nodmadic tribe.
Screen writers are very likely pressed time and events much tighter than in the books. So it is very well could be Gandalf.
@@hint1k Nah. Third Age begins when Sauron is defeated at Mount Doom when Isildur cut the ring off his finger. This show is like 4000 years in the past.
@@The.Crawling.Chaos. more like 5000 years to be precise. But instead of showing 5000 years filled with 1 event per 100 years, the screen writers are very likely went another way. By turning 5000 years into something like 10-20 years and pressing all the events closer to each other. This way allows to keep all the major characters alive at the same time - elves, dwarves, men, etc from start of the show to its finish.
@@hint1k how about Blue wizard?
@@vulamnguyen9453 Also third age. No they did not arrive in the second age despite what some would be fans claim. Do the research if you don't believe me.
Having Howard Shore come back to do the music again was the best choice they could have made with this show. Say what you want about the plot but the music is top tier 🤌
He only did the opening theme
@@PeverellTheThird yes but he consulted Howard Shore's music and made it very similar. Either way my point still stands. Excellent music.