What the Source 2 Engine could mean for CS GO
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With the Source 2 Engine finally being officially announced, I expect exciting news soon about how it's going to change today's and tomorrow's games. In this video I look at CS GO and whether it will be upgraded for the Source 2 engine. Please note that this is all speculation based on what I know, what Valve has done in the past and a number of hunches. This video is intended as entertainment and not a solid, factual account of what Valve is going to do, and as always, some of what I say may be wrong and stupid. Enjoy!
0:00 - Will existing games be ported?
0:12 - What probably won't happen
0:20 - CS GO's popularity so far and why
0:32 - Previously fragmented fanbase of Counter Strike
0:43 - Why CSGO has aged well
1:08 - Why a sequel isn't needed
1:26 - How skins increase CS GO's lifespan
2:08 - Source is outdated
2:39 - Problems with porting to Source 2
3:14 - New tech VS CS GO's current gameplay
4:18 - Retaining what's good about CS GO already
5:12 - Future of CS GO
5:22 - Reasons for upgrading to Source 2
5:52 - The transition stage
6:20 - Conclusion
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And here we are. 8 years later. A new-ish game. A rebrand. A new breath in the life of the game. All beautifully done.
CS:GO killed itself and reborn again as CS2, the CS:GO killer.
"beautifully"
are you from the future?
It's interesting, I guess the idea of sequels replacing existing games didn't happen back then.
8 fucking years lmao
This feels so fascinating to watch again, like those old videos where people think in 8 years we will get Flying Cars and teleportation
I'd argue we got MUCH more than anyone expected. In 8 years we got real-time path-tracing graphics and GPT-4 with sparks of AGI. Nobody expected any of those 2 breakthroughs in such short amount of time. It may not be teleportation but it's pretty up there. CS2 is not one of those tho haha.
@@samot1808 Depending on who you would have asked, the prediction is usually going to be a lot greater than that. We have all this tech but it's going to cost more jobs that probably won't be gotten back by using the tech. We had one of the greatest financial downturns in years and people were socially isolated more than they perhaps have ever been during that time. And as to the tech itself, ignoring the negatives, I don't think it's nearly as close to AGI as is being hyped. There is a good future for some with these things but as with many of these changes the majority will lose out.
@@amentco8445 Oh I wasn't saying it is good or bad, just that we got these technological breakthroughs much earlier than anticipated.
While not AGI yet I think it's difficult to overhype. I sometimes think there will be no other milestone as big as GPT3 in the road to full AGI. While technologically there might be a long road ahead to reach true AGI, in practical terms GPT4 can already mimic human conversation convincingly in most "everyday" situations.
3 years on. No source 2.
Rip
They're running on Valve time man, give it 6 more years.
To this day we wait for the source2 =)))
Wemerson Silva we wait for too(;•͈́༚•͈̀)
Parorama and New operation
7 years on and it's kinda cool going back and watching these old speculative videos
I was gonna write this when I saw the 3 years later comment
No longer a speculation! A dream Come true!
@@ripadblock true that
didn't age well
ahh hell naah man hell naaah
0:59 This part aged tremendeusly well. Because valve straight up kicked bright color palette in CS2,
Whole video is mostly correct tbh.
5 years and there's finally an unofficial date
source?
@@jirilaska9788 It's passed already, it was rumored to be the 18th of May
@@jirilaska9788 source 2, actually
@@luca_sbll We got disappointed as always
It actually might be in December
Almost everything said here was spot on 8 years ago, the release format, their concerns, the lack of gameplay changes for the most part. Even if those predictions made sense, they're pretty impressive with the time gap
My thoughts exactly👍🏻
loved when he said that he doubt they will add some game changing features, and in next frames he shoots hole in wall, just like you do now in smokes haha. lowkey kinda foreshadowed
*5 years later ...*
this video came out 1.5 years ago, still no update.
only thing they changed since then was "HD Gloves" ...WOW!
and the gloves are ugly
Now we got glove skins lmao
Later you know, they will add socks lmao
gloves in real life ~ 15€
gloves in csgo ~ 300€
LauchusRexus Same with knives actually.. :D
128 tick servers + Source 2 + netcode fixes = best FPS in history.
128 tick is so important for proper bhopping! and i agree. but the netcode in valve games is supreme.
Joe Fisher the netcode in csgo isn't a problem its the 64tick servers
James Hong Pro players play on 128 servers
James Hong BS, it's not because i don't have godlike reflexes and aim that I have no rights on a good server, I'd like to bhop and actually hit ppl when im hitting them even if I'm silver. Stop with your elitist bs
James Hong >28 tick only shows effects in 120 or 144hz screens<
lmao what are you talking about.. you dont need 120or 144hz screens for 128tick to have an different hit-reg on 128tick server..
The time has come
Edit: :(
2nd Edit: :)
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It's so nice to see that although this video being 8 years old, you still managed to be right about all of your predictions.
Yay screenshot of my items! =D
rechyyy's would have been better perhaps, his inventory is insane.
Great video, I share your thoughts.
I found it interesting that you have half million subs yet here you don't have thousands of likes.
The Cereal Guy
lol
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Plot Twist: Sparkles is rechyyy's alt.
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2019
Valve: brain computer interface
8 years later and you were pretty spot on
getting this recommended after 8 years, source 2 confirmed
It will be good if porting to source engine 2:
*improve the registration
*improve performance
*improve the bhop mechanic
*improve graphics (not just by making them prettier, but by improving the colors and the contrast of characters and scenary)
*improve sound (its hard to diferenciate sounds coming from behind and from the front)
*OMG my skins are even prettier now!!!1! I better go open some more crates (the avegare csgo player will think)
it wil be bad if:
*it messes with the movement and physic of the granades (I don't want to have to learn again the 100 granade throws I have in mind)
*the visuals become even worse (in regards to being able to see the enemy in some map locations) just so it can be "prettier"
*it becomes so different that the original "feel" of the game is lost
*128 tick mm servers^^
***** Sure, it would be great, but that is just an administrative change, not related to the engine...
Diógenes still if they are going to port it, at least make some administrative changes, players would very much appreciate it
Yes, I would love it.
***** this wont happen for million reasons. deal with it
Source 2 = Half-Life 3 confirmed to me!
not confirmed
EmilPEmiL123 | Road to 50M Subs! it is confirmed look it up
MkeyzITA Not half life 2.
EmilPEmiL123 | Road to 50M Subs! what does that even mean
they have not said anywhere that the game is going to be released.
"At this point it is impossible to know what Valve has planned out"
-philip, after stating everything Valve will do in the future in quick succession
This aged like good wine
TF2 begs to be ported. A damn CPU heavy game running on an engine that's limited to 2 cores.
Counter Strike: Source 2 Confirmed???????????
+snowiblind Probably the last engine then
+900bot *Counter Strike: Source Zero Offensive 1.6: Deleted Scenes
crussian-strike globe offended
+Thehemmo counter strike: call of duty gta minecraft condition zero online zombies source 46 global warfare 1.6
+zuka murvanidze & knuckles
5 years later still nothing
R.I.P
wdym its here
6 years later and source 2 is still a dream.
source 2 is out but not in cs go
@@stormstudios1 ai know that.
@@MirelRC then why did you say source 2 is still a dream
@@stormstudios1 because here it's a video about CSGO. And CSGO still doesn't have Source 2... is that hard?
@@MirelRC from the comment, its not obvious at all and it implys that you think source 2 is not out yet for the public
3:35 So basically Rainbow Six Siege?
funkyredsnipermlgcat 2 XD herobrine part actually killed me
Exactly Rainbow Six Siege. The only problem with DMM, RSS's destruction system, and Source's user made fake DMM is that they are either slow or inaccurate. However, voxels could change this. Sure, they will never perfectly represent reality, but they have to potential to be very close.
Bring back sprays.
+Berkay Mirioğlu You probably haven't played CS 1.6 or Source. What he means by sprays is small image files you could import into the game and "spraypaint" them anywhere on the map, for a bit of fun. I agree! They should bring back sprays :D
***** oh, they're needed.
+RedRageGaming a shooting ct/t gif is better
+CanadianBacon yeaaa we want sprays back !! ffs
They are not needed like why do we need them? I think its just usless and yes i played cs and 1.6 and source as well
This video aged really well as all of Philip's videos.
Really looking forward to what's coming up with CS this year for their 10 year anniversary!
Now it really did
7 years and we're closer than ever
If CS:GO changes by using the communities' feedback, we should start a revolution for the MP5 ;3
YES,let's spam valve with #WeWantMP5
and tactical shielld, priced at 10k
+900bot TMP was the shittiest gun in 1.6
+900bot. tmp is the mp9
900bot oh yeah forgot about that
It‘s great to see how riggt he was:
- Same game (but ported)
- limited beta test
- no major game changes
And this 8years into the future!
well technicly newnone that is almost one to one clone and is a freeupdate, but csgo will remain.
And skins just carry over.
So Philip wasn't late on CS2 hype, he actually was 8 years ahead!
2:54
OMG THEY PREDICTED THE CORONAVIRUS
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OK
Illuminati
YortzAOV alien exist
only 8 years off. close in Valve Time
Whoever reading this Mark that Today is 14th August 2022 and still no source 2 even after 7 years of this video. But yes, many leaks are confirming that source 2 will come on 10th anniversary. let's see how it goes. High hopes with this update, should be worth waiting.
*hopefully come on 10th anniversary
Lol
yikes....
Woooohooooo...We finally got CS ported to Source 2 on 22nd March 2023 ( as beta test). It's been 8 years from this video but it's amazing to see all those changes 🎉🎉.
Lol 3 years later and still not on source 2... valve pls fix
4 year later but no source 2 valve fix it
5 year fix
@@starrajesh 🤣🤣🤣🤣 wtf is this "valve fix it" stfu kids with 200 elo on faceit and nova 3 on mm
@@hellolowiqpeople9341 it's just a meme. ( I have 2500 elo on faceit)
6 YEARS AND NO NEW ENGINE
this aged like fine wine 🗿
6:24 CSGO'd
If they removed go I would cri ;c I have 2 knives and they will be worthless ;c
replaced not removed
Liek i care bout er nife
ill ave one mait i ned to feed me familee of orphans ;c
Shimshar sorry mate lost them all on a website I had 90% chance to win and lost because of them damn 10%
Sebastian Probably rigged. Don't risk something so valuable on gambling.
Your presentations during these videos are absolutely perfect. Your speaking skills are impeccable. Well done man.
2 years later.. got no source2
Joseph Ozdemir
Source 2 is garbage and it will kill the game when it gets ported
SOURCE 2 HATE
3 years later... still nothing
4 years later*
Rumours arr around about source 2 in CS Go
would be nice to have bunny hop in csgo with source 2.
agree
Do you mean there was not one?
Or mean that you pray for them to not change it?
Because I can BHop with ease.
cat command
You can`t bhop like in counter strike source.
EnergY | PC Gaming And that was made for good.
Son, if we could bhop like that it would be exp about getting to pos with bhop.
Jimmy De'Souza should require skill,icanbhop pretty good at l4d2 Cs source 1.6 and quake but in cs go not, and i don't now one person that can bhop without cheat plugins
I'd say that's pretty much spot on. Some tidbits here and there, but otherwise impressive.
3 years later, it’s already 2018 and still no news?
4 years later
why did i say ago instead of later
It's 2020 now and we are 2 months away from source 2
@@mostofahasinmahdi it's 2022, source 2 will be in august
crazy to think that 8 whole years ago source was already being called "old" and "bloated" and people were wishing for a source 2 port. and that 8 years ago source 2 was already technically "released" in dota 2. it took valve 8 years to port this game. i guess thats valve for you
Dota 2 uses a mix of Source 1 and Source 2 tech, at least for its rendering. Source 2 wasn't finished at that time. CS2 uses Source 2 rendering, and is also the first FPS game on the engine, so a lot of work had to be done just on the engine itself.
Source 2 was deemed complete by Valve in 2020 with Half Life: Alyx's release, which is when they started to work on CS2 according to one of the developers. so it took them 3 years
We just need 128 tick servers :D
No, we don't...
+YetAnotherTH-camChannel yes we need
+Thales Vilela why do you think theres esea.
+Pompeii -Minecraft not everyone can pay for ESEA. Also, the game is from Valve, not ESEA, so Valve should fix it
+Thales Vilela well, faceit is a thing to, also cevo. valve doesn't need to fix the tickrate for casual gameplay. it's mm not professional. it doesn't matter.
1:54 butterfly for under 100€ :o
I love how the doubled brightness in this video’s “Source 2” is still darker than CS2 ended up being
8 Y E A R S L A T E R . . .
If they port it to spurce 2 I want 1 thing: I WANT THE SPETSNAZ BACK
Spetsnaz?
+Alliance Gaming russian special forces
I get what Spetsnaz is, but in CS? When?
I get what Spetsnaz is, but in CS? When?
+Alliance Gaming cs condition zero
Valve are actually the absolute KINGS of microtransactions.
And the best part, is that nobody gives a fuck.
Car Of Doom because there good at it
there completely balanced. you dont get a bonus
Car Of Doom because you dont need skins to be good
tomi Lies, having an AWP Asiimov automatically makes you an pro awper.
Car Of Doom You have no clue what you're talking about. it's your choice to buy skins if you like it
Car Of Doom You must be silver one. maybe you don't even own the game at all
i clicked on this video thinking it was new, thought it was some kind of 4th dimension philip joke again but no, its just oldschool csgo speculation.
interesting to see what the community thought of the things that have just been announced now, 8 years later.
Hey Philip! This video was awesome, as i am not familiar with engines and everything yet i still felt like understanding better new because of your content :)
Do you have any intention of covering/ discussing the overall differences between both engines? If so, i would be really happy to learn about them!
Here after CS2 announced
This aged like wine
This is really interesting now that source 2 has actually been announced and is in beta
imagine "PLS GABE LET ME INNNNNN" was a working closed beta key for source 2 based CSGO
I really do hope that Valve create the right feel in Source 2. What I didn't like about CS:GO for the most part is the static items, cant jump on top of a lot of things, and when you touch walls, it doesn't feel like you're actually touching them, as if there's a small invisible wall in the way of them. It's hard to explain. It's sort of in Portal 2 as well.
I hope Source 2 achieves the feel that Half-Life 2 or CS:S had, but make it even better.
Are you talking about player clips? Or the general gap of the camera [the location of your POV] and the environment brushes [walls, etc.]. (Example, you can't get the camera so close to the wall that it will black the screen.)
COLATA - "the general gap of the camera [the location of your POV] and the environment brushes [walls, etc.]"
Yeah, I guess what I quoted above. If you go in Source, hold A or D on a wall and walk next to it or hug the wall compared to CS:GO you'll see what I mean
Dalek22comments It's unachievable as Source doesn't have that mechanic and doesn't need one.
It's good for parkour game though.
Oh god, it will piss the fake gamemode community.
cat command
- I didn't understand your comment at all...
The camera thing.
It's not really needat as it will waste the time of development team on something graphical.
This aged like fine wine
8 years ago... damn time flies too fast, i still remember this watching this video when it was new
1:00
I can't believe philip could predict what the visual differences for source 2 would be like
This video aged pretty well
I'm guessing they'll release source 2 as a major update.
Maybe having new maps to fit with the destructible terrain while keeping the stock maps unchanged.
Atleast, that's how I'd do it.
+Hetzer
Yeah, only little destructible deteil. I don't want to be playing minecraft !
Fantastic prediction
This was accurate to the Invite Point where everyone would beg to get INNNNN!
That was really on point. Kudos to you, m8.
I like the fact that it's impossible to tell what your stance is. You start off saying you think it WILL get ported, then like 65% of the video is you listing off all the reasons it won't be ported. At no point do you take a definitive stance and it really bothers me.
Spoiler alert! It won't.
3kliksphilip Well then, I stand corrected. Damn.
Yep 2 years later he did indeed spoil it
7 years and it's finally here
TH-cam sure knows when to recommend this video to people. What a summer we're about to have!
2 years later still not ported over :(
wow good job on predicting cs2
Based Philip knew all along.
That new Hammer Editor looks lit af yo.
This man can tell the future
Finally in 2020 we'll be getting s2
lol sure
In 2022, august
Hats off for your prediction Sir!!
Congratz for getting featured in HTC news!
This man litterly called everything right. Even the Beta test....
4:40 the smallest changes aka complete removal
1:56 damn butterfly vanilla for 166 dollars
This video was ahead of its time!
Honestly this video doesn't really explain "What Source 2 means for CS GO" at all.
3kliksphilip Because you don't make that decision and you don't know the answer to that question. Your basically telling us what *you* want to happen.
3kliksphilip
It being obvious that you don't know anything doesn't stop the title from being misleading and wrong.
Otingokni dw i still love u philip
Otingokni the title was asking a question
not saying a statement @_@
Knee Grow
No question mark. And it would be "What does Source 2 mean for CS GO" if it was a question. Current title is a statement.
I really like this new series Philip's Thoughts, hope to see more videos like this. I totally agree with what you had too say in this video, great work. Also I'm pretty certain Valve won't release a new CS anytime soon.
PS: Source 2 = Half-Life 3 Confirmed???
naaa, just half life alyx
1:54 ah yes butterfly knives for 200$
"I was look ooo this looks interesting" me, 6/6/2017
*checks date of video* 3/4/2015
Fuck
lol
Damn 7 years
And now it might finally happen
Why would we need perfomance boost in CSGO? My computer is like 2 years older than CSGO and I get consistent 300fps+. Game is already resource efficient enough, I think they won't risk fucking the game up and spend money on basically redeveloping the game the exact same way in a new engine, it makes no sense.
GTX 570 + i5. So it's pretty decent components even though a bit old by now. People who have trouble getting above 120fps probably have even older or lower tier components, components that most likely won't be supported by or gain any performance from Vulkan.
Otingokni Just a word of advice, i5 is not a sufficient enough way to explain what processor you have since i5 covers a broad range of processors. The quality and power of the processor vary greatly between models and generations.
John Doe
You are missing my point. The point is 300 fps for a rig that is 2 years older than the game I am playing is beyond acceptable.
I'm pretty sure Intel always aims to give their customers the same quality, top quality. Age != quality.
The performance difference between the the generations since they introduced the "i5 and i7 format" are marginal at best in gaming scenarios. 5-10 fps tops usually if you look at benchmarks, 15 fps in worst case scenarios but that's in poorly made games. I wouldn't call that great variation. The major advancements have been in TDP(energy efficiency) and die shrinks . I have a first generation i5, an i5 760 clocked at 4.0 GHz if you're curious. My friend has a 2500k and the same GPU as me and we get the same FPS in most titles.
However bigger performance gains can be noticed between the generations when looking at other scenarios that utilize and rely more on the CPU. For example Movie rendering, encoding, compression and so on.
i agree. Only thing that can get better with the fps is the consisently and make sure there are no small stuttering. max fps doesnt need to get better.
Otingokni cs is cpu based and cpu's havent gotten a lot better in a long time so thats why a 2 year old computer runs it without problems.
Getting recommended this video...8 years later. Has Source 2 really been around for that long now?
if they want a source 2 engine, they only need to add the 128 tick, a better vac system and maybe the 5 second crash issue
Wow, this video is over a year old. I thought valve would update CSGO to source 2 in the last year after watching this but I feel like this vid is like less than half a year old
1:00 can't believe this is a 100% accurate vision of how Source 2 looks like
It does not look like that
@@cutterchop4425 it does yes look like that yes men real
Wow 8 years and they finally did it
LOVE how its been like 3 years and still it hasn't come out
welp this aged well
it did indeed :)
Aged well!
oof your movement on that surf map killed me
Funny that this appeared in my recommendations now.
source 2, de_nuke 2_ left for dead 3, portal 3, gaben plz
ricochet 2 pls
tf3 dota 3
dota 2 is already ported to source 2
Well you got Nuke 2 lol
+-T-X-M- Oh I get it. Less vents = less fun. I'm going to make a custom map with 5000 vents so it can be on csgo
the real question is:
Is source 2 coming to CoD?
I thought you will say "will it bend"
That is the question.
Cod doesn't need Source 2 when he has an improved fish ai
Your name almost made me spit my drink out
thefoolishgmodcube *Cod* a fish
7 years Later and we finally have some news on subject
What news ?
@@MFDOOOOM nothing special, just csgo that tweeted csgo patchday source 2.
and valve registering a New counterstrike logo on the american patenting office...
8 years later and this is finally coming true.
2 years now m8 TO YEARSSSS!!1111!!1!1!1