thank you so much for making this available to us international kpop fans! this was such an enlightening take to see, i will be tuned in for all your next videos and binge watch the older ones :) ❤
This was really wonderful! I wondered while watching if "fierce" might also be a good translation of 끼, particularly given the idea that, in this context, it's connected to 한. In queer English slang, "fierce" is used to show that same sort of energy and power, but in a way that's born of defiance - you're fierce in the face of everything that would hurt you, and despite everything that has.
24:58 이달의 소녀의 후속작이 사실 또 있어요 - 아르테미스(디렉터 가 결성시킨 팀, 희진, 하슬, 김립, 진솔, 최리) / 루셈블 (이달소 전 회사 직원이 결성시킨 팀, 현진, 여진, 비비, 고원, 혜주) 이 중 이달의 소녀, 아르테미스 디렉터가 새로 만든 팀 - 트리플에스 (이달소도 예뻤듯이 이 팀도 겁나 예쁩니다. 유닛 VV 곧 데뷔입니다!)
I was surprised to see that the same kpop groups in the west that are seen as icons among queer people are the same in Korea. Despite language and culture differences I think the diva energy translates very well between Korea and the west. SNSD and Loona especially are popular with gay people and yeves and Twice have a big lesbian following. (G)I-dle is well liked by lgbt people also and lesbians really like the song Oh My God especially. I found it funny to see every group that was shown because they were all groups that had a huge impact on me as I was growing up. F(x) especially left a big impression on middle school me.
this was such a fun video! i’ve been into kpop since 2009, and girls generation, kara, after school, and nine muses are some of my favorite groups! as a gay man, seeing you guys talk about them was so cool! really loved this video! thanks so much for adding subtitles to this :)
Is “frisky” (as in english translation captions) basically like… bad bitch energy? I love the idea, I just want to make sure I understand 🤔 This was so interesting and I’d love to see one on which male idols are the favorites of gay women/fems in Korea (in the US people joke that lesbians love SUGA or ATEEZ lol)
Your right. :) frisky, in korean term 'ggi' is kind of gay queen vibe. our translator sent us additional comment about translation, I'll leave that comment below(and about 'male idols are the favorites of gay women/fems in Korea'
You might be interested in this English language essay 'THE THREE FACES OF SOUTH KOREA’S MALE HOMOSEXUALITY: POGAL, IBAN, AND NEOLIBERAL GAY by John (Song Pae) Cho' in 'Queer Korea' which is available as a free ebook on JSTOR :) it goes into kki a little and some history of gay men in Korea! I would also liken 'kki' to 'cunty' lol which although derives from an obscenity seems to be used very commonly now. It can be euphemistically described as Charisma, Uniqueness, Nerve, Talent but I think the word came first and the acronym second to allow it to be said on TV😅 I love that there's a similar sense of gay energy encapsulated in these terms - across different languages and geographies we have something in common as queer people!
@@nualaj4069 Thanks for additional comment! It's really helpful. :) And by the way we preparing a episode on 'Lesbian and Kpop boy group', So you can meet interesting story soon.☺
guilty is a really peace of art and very sensual so it makes me literally guilty😂 I like sexy in the air because Taemin show me a different aspect of his talent as a artist, It's always excited to see that kind of things +)before there's a guilty and sexy in the air, we made a video about Taemin😁 I hope you like it th-cam.com/video/MyYNKpTYPwg/w-d-xo.html
yves is definitely my lesbian diva ❤
thank you so much for making this available to us international kpop fans! this was such an enlightening take to see, i will be tuned in for all your next videos and binge watch the older ones :) ❤
honestly 이달의 소녀 is not only iconic among gays in korea but around the world too
This was really wonderful! I wondered while watching if "fierce" might also be a good translation of 끼, particularly given the idea that, in this context, it's connected to 한. In queer English slang, "fierce" is used to show that same sort of energy and power, but in a way that's born of defiance - you're fierce in the face of everything that would hurt you, and despite everything that has.
ㅋㅋㅋㅋ카라는 유독 게이들이 많이 좋아하져... 신나는 멜로디에 당당한 가사, 따라하기 쉬운 안무까지! 귀여움 만렙 락유, 프리티걸 부터 아련까라 허니, 멋있는 루팡 점핑 판도라 숙못 신나는 미스터 스텝 맘마미아 큐피드 그리고 화룡점정의 웬아뭅까지!! 안좋아할래야 안좋아 할 수가 없어요ㅜㅠ
웬아뭅. 너에 바디흔드러봐 웬아뭅. ㅇㅇ.
24:58
이달의 소녀의 후속작이 사실 또 있어요 - 아르테미스(디렉터
가 결성시킨 팀, 희진, 하슬, 김립, 진솔, 최리) / 루셈블 (이달소 전 회사 직원이 결성시킨 팀, 현진, 여진, 비비, 고원, 혜주)
이 중 이달의 소녀, 아르테미스 디렉터가 새로 만든 팀 - 트리플에스 (이달소도 예뻤듯이 이 팀도 겁나 예쁩니다. 유닛 VV 곧 데뷔입니다!)
feel special is me and my girlfriends song so thank you for including it in the twice portion!! international gay fans love feel special!!!
Omg LOONA my lgbtq+ queens
잘봤어요~! 여자지만 공감가는 부분이 많네요..특히 소녀시대, f(x), 이달의 소녀, 여자친구..벅차오름 point가 있음
loona is for the girls, the gays and the theys! 🌙
우리 수영이 영업해주셔서 너무 감사합니다 이달소 영원해라 ㅜㅜㅜ
돌아온 퀴어돌영업왕 ㅜㅜ 너무 좋아요!!
카라 스텝 맘마미아 등은 항상 이쪽 클럽에 나온답니다.
너무 재밌네요 ㅋㅋ 끼 vs. 아련 구도
허호님의 영업 더 듣고싶어요~~❤❤❤
한 시간 분량으로 해주세요❤❤
the pitch for loona was definitely needed
다시 만난 세계, 올나잇, 포에버원
믿고 듣는 켄지x소녀시대 명곡.
사랑의 정수라는 표현이 딱인 것 같아요.
음악과 서사에 있어서 낭만이란 말이 가장 잘 어울리는 케이팝 그룹이 아닐까 합니다.
35:19 와...천더그 여우(부제: 그녀들의수다) 제최애곡인데 티저뜰때부터 이노래때문에 정규 1집앨범도 삿다구요ㅠㅠ언급해주시다닝 감격ㅜㅜㅜㅠ
라떼는 이정현 '반' 나오면 클럽에서 단체로 응원법했는데 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
허호 작가님 말씀 넘 잘하셔서 재밌게 잘 들었습니당
I was surprised to see that the same kpop groups in the west that are seen as icons among queer people are the same in Korea. Despite language and culture differences I think the diva energy translates very well between Korea and the west.
SNSD and Loona especially are popular with gay people and yeves and Twice have a big lesbian following. (G)I-dle is well liked by lgbt people also and lesbians really like the song Oh My God especially.
I found it funny to see every group that was shown because they were all groups that had a huge impact on me as I was growing up. F(x) especially left a big impression on middle school me.
true! i think especially loona, wjsn and fx are very popular among wlw
@@vkskms yes! how could I forget wjsn (seeing as I have stanned them since debut lol)
천상지희 20주년 완전체 부디 제발료🥹🥹
궁금한 주제였는데 정말 재밌고 유익한 영상이었어요!
허호작가님 넘잼따옄ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
연혜원 작가님 팬이에요! 너무 재밌어요
this was such a fun video! i’ve been into kpop since 2009, and girls generation, kara, after school, and nine muses are some of my favorite groups! as a gay man, seeing you guys talk about them was so cool! really loved this video! thanks so much for adding subtitles to this :)
이브💞
이브 차세대 게이퀸 쌉인정띠
같은 퀴어지만 여자 좋아하는 퀴어들과는 관점이 너무 다르네요ㅋㅋㅋ
loona and yves!!!!
K팝에 이만큼 진심인 사람이 있을까요..
여솔특집도 한번 어떠신가요....
기회가 된다면 꼭 도전해보겠습니다 :)
Is “frisky” (as in english translation captions) basically like… bad bitch energy? I love the idea, I just want to make sure I understand 🤔 This was so interesting and I’d love to see one on which male idols are the favorites of gay women/fems in Korea (in the US people joke that lesbians love SUGA or ATEEZ lol)
Your right. :) frisky, in korean term 'ggi' is kind of gay queen vibe. our translator sent us additional comment about translation, I'll leave that comment below(and about 'male idols are the favorites of gay women/fems in Korea'
@@Official_Qplanet Thank you!!
You might be interested in this English language essay 'THE THREE FACES OF SOUTH KOREA’S MALE HOMOSEXUALITY: POGAL,
IBAN, AND NEOLIBERAL GAY
by John (Song Pae) Cho' in 'Queer Korea' which is available as a free ebook on JSTOR :) it goes into kki a little and some history of gay men in Korea! I would also liken 'kki' to 'cunty' lol which although derives from an obscenity seems to be used very commonly now. It can be euphemistically described as Charisma, Uniqueness, Nerve, Talent but I think the word came first and the acronym second to allow it to be said on TV😅 I love that there's a similar sense of gay energy encapsulated in these terms - across different languages and geographies we have something in common as queer people!
And yes I'm one of those lesbians who loves Suga, Ateez and Taemin I wonder if it's the same with Korean lesbians, looking forward to the episode!!
@@nualaj4069 Thanks for additional comment! It's really helpful. :) And by the way we preparing a episode on 'Lesbian and Kpop boy group', So you can meet interesting story soon.☺
어떻게 천상지희 언급이 없지????????하고 와 이건 엉터리네 할려다가 마지막에 평온을 얻고 돌아갑니다...천더그 덕질 19년차 팬 올림
섹시 = 성적대상화 / 끼 = 우먼파워 인 듯??
#이달소뜬다떠 아르테미스 루셈블 입츄 다 잘되자ㅠㅠ
원더걸스 언급이 없다니
아이들 네버랜드 만세 ㅎㅎ
그래서 이제부턴 게이팝이라 지칭해야됨..
진짜 에이핑크 게이들 겁나 많았었음;;;;;
큐플래닛에 엔시티 위시 영업하고 싶다... 네일 하고 치마 입는 남돌~ 라이즈 자매 상품 이수만 변태 짱~~!!
살짝 스포일러를 하자면 다음 에피소드에서 엔시티가 등장할 예정이어요😊
나는 끼곡을 주로 좋아하는 사람이였구나.. 평소에 아이들 톰보이 같은 슈퍼레이디나 비비지 매니악 이달소 쏘배드 이런거 좋아하는뎈ㅋ
저 아련미… 🥺
꿀잼 ㅋㅋ
ほっちゃん( ´ ▽ ` )
❤❤❤❤
허호슨배림 7ㅣ절❤️❤️
티아라 미만잡 아니니? 섹시러브 말해모해;
I clicked immediately. Why can't we like the video? The like button is gone!
OMG where is like button gone ;_; but I received your heart warming like, Thanks for watching video
게이들이 걸그룹을 좋아하는지 몰랐는데, 제목을 보자마자 그럴 거 같다는 생각이 들었네요. 다른 그룹들은 내가 관심없어서 바로 f(X) 누름
제목에서 이달의 소녀 LOONA 철자를 수정해 주세요
아이고 이런, 급히 수정하였습니다.
감사합니다.
@@Official_Qplanet 괜찮아요~~
정작 게이같은건 케이팝 남돌들인데ㅋㅋ
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ게이팝🌈
????????게이들은 보는 관점이 다르구나
말투 제스처 표정 단어선택 하나하나가 끼스럽네 으 ㅋㅋㅋ
I’d really love to see your opinion on guilty and sexy in the air by Taemin
guilty is a really peace of art and very sensual so it makes me literally guilty😂 I like sexy in the air because Taemin show me a different aspect of his talent as a artist, It's always excited to see that kind of things
+)before there's a guilty and sexy in the air, we made a video about Taemin😁 I hope you like it
th-cam.com/video/MyYNKpTYPwg/w-d-xo.html
@@Official_Qplanet I really enjoyed that video and I feel lithe same about guilty