Driving An Icon: The Range Rover Classic (1994 Vogue SE)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ค. 2019
- Even though it's a car that has never a shred of interest for me, there is no denying the historical significance of the Range Rover. Today I'm driving a very late example, a 1994 Vogue SE powered by the venerable 3.9L Rover V8. 50 years after the car was introduced - just how good is the original posh off roader?
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These old classics are the best. Simple. Functional. Solid. Unpretentious. Not like these new age glitzy glamorous space wagons.
These new age whales are just over-weight computers .
@@poweredbyrice5708 the serie after this one, the P38 IS a great SHIT !
Used to own a very late model LSE 4.2 V8. Best car I ever had - by far. Cost me a bloody fortune, but it was worth every penny 😁😊😊
Miss it like crazy. Replaced the air suspension with progressive springs and rally shocks with a 5cm lift. Stuck track wideners on it too. Was amazing off-road.
Word of warning though: buy with your heart and not with your head, or you'll spend every waking moment regretting it 🤣🤣🤣
Had to wave it goodbye when my wife decided to open the roof up like a tin of sardines on the ceiling of an underground car park. Broke my heart.
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I had a 93' K, reg vogue 200 TDi Superb car. I miss Mine Too. I wish i had it now.
Stupid bitch
Hi Morgan, will it still be a money pit if the owner got it restored nicely? I'm thinking to get one but to be very honest my wallet doesn't agree with my heart unfortunately.
A STARTER CAR!? THIS CAR IS A FINISHER CAR! A TRANSPORTER OF GODS! THE GOLDEN GOD! I AM UNTETHERED AND MY RAGE KNOWS NO BOUNDS.
So much yes!!!!!!!! My word I was hoping to see this. Thanks so much!
This car has only BEGUN to peak!
Are you a sportsman? Because you look very fit.
Colin Blair noooo 😂😂😂
OH GOD IKR!
ITS an icon of off-roading...
Seeing one is such a rarity and it's also R E L I A B L E
The Slightly Earlier ones with Hard dash & Coils all round are a Far better car. Add Manual Box & You have THE PERFECT CAR.
Loved my old classic, had it for about 2 years, it cost me $7000 in repairs, but it was bloody brilliant and made you feel special every time you drove it. I miss it every day but as a young person not making big money i just couldn't afford to keep it going. One day i'll buy another. Oh and i just wanted to say, while parts and servicing we're expensive, and i put money into i didn't need too, the car never ever broke down once in 2 years of regular driving, until the gearbox let go on the motoway which was the end of it.
Also 100% you are wrong about the turning circle, they have an amazing turning circle. Not sure about the air suspension models but the coil sprung ones can turn bloody tight and with adjustable steering stops fitted as started, with a slight suspension lift you can give yourself even more lock with standard tyres.
Spen King's design is now over 50 years old and still looks absolutely timeless.
Utterly love this car. Fond memories of my late Dad's RR Classic in the late '80s. I learnt to drive in it and we got up to all sorts in the countryside. Good times! I have to get one.
fantastic review! Alot of journalists Kiss the feet of these old rangies but it's nice to see it from a different perspective! really enjoyed watching!
G'day Jay Emm. I bought one of these in 2014 which was a basket case! I'm an ex-Essex boy living in NZ and flew from one end of the country to the other to collect it and drive it back upto the North Island!
Cut a long story short it started loosing oil at a rapid rate and I had to leave at Christchurch airport and flew home! Luckily the guy I bought from had connections in the car transporter biz and we split the cost to get back to where I lived.
I had the intention of restoring it but one day I went to a nearby country park and reversed between two trees when another jumped out between them and smashed the rear bumper, tailgate and broke the rear hatch window! Consequently I put on a NZ auction site and sold it for what I paid for it to a Rangie enthusiast who had already had restored a Vogue SE in white and wanted one in black! Lucky me!
Great review James! Looking forward to the E55!
One of the few SUVs I would buy (this one being on the classic and useful side of SUVs) but I fully agree with your sentiment on SUVs and modern cars!
Love love these cars. Saw a old 2 door rooting away by a road I haven't been on in a while.. I want to get what I saw today!. These cars are so beautiful and classic.
Great video, love to see 90s European icons being reviewed properly , it's not that frequent.
Great review, mate! Cheers
Great video James!
Good sensible review, and Roche Abbey well worth visiting too
I was initially given one of these while working for a humanitarian organization in a third world country. I very much liked it but only because I didn’t have to service it myself as it belonged to the company’s fleet. The hydraulics kept breaking down and after the third time I was given a Toyota Landcruiser 100 for security reasons. Not as appealing by any means but definitely much higher build quality and frankly just as good as far as the off-roading was concerned. Strangely enough, I still missed the Range Rover though... Nice video!
7 seconds into video.. ooh that exhaust header tick sound familiar :-D
I would like to see a review of the Rover SD1, Triumph Dolomite Sprint & Stag
This car with a proper manual is stunning!
I never clicked faster in a Jay emm video
Edit: My dad had a 92 3 door 3.9 range rover classic I love that thing to bits being grown up with it really gets under your skin and for past 15 years we a p38
Never knew that you could get a 3-door 3.9 !
@@lewis72 yeah you could I think 92 was the last year and you got pretty much all the 4 door extras as well like ac etc.
Amazingly, these were launched the same year as the Triumph Stag and went out of production the same year as the launch of the Lotus Elise.
Friend lent me his 84 Range Rover to go to Scotland (about 500miles away) drive up was great and was fine all week, drive back was scariest of my life as we drove back at night and the lights would randomly decide to switch off and not come back on for a few miles luckily it didn't start doing this until we were on the motorway probably because we had planned to be on the motorway at dusk around 100miles into our journey so hadn't used the light until then.
I have a 94 p38 and love it going to keep it aswell
Great video, it would be interesting for you to do a review on a P38 Westminster, Holland and Holland or the one that's for sale at the minute that was a press car and it's up for sale at the minute for £25k. Cheers, Jack.
Hey Jay, there's a strange fella sittin' in the back seat munchy-wunching lomticks of toast.
@ That should be a hint that the whole sentence is a reference to some greater, better-known work.
Don't think he looks that much like the dude in A Clockwork Orange (if thats what you are getting at) but i can see what you mean.
@@voivod6871 definitely not similarly looking at all, nope, lol. It was just the phrase, "there's a strange fella sitting" that was stuck in my head each time he showed up.
I’ve 4 of them two 1994 soft dash one 300tdi one 4.2v8 lse and two 1987 hard dashes one 3.5v8 and one 200tdi
who gives a fuck? why showing off like this? 100% you've got a wall paper of one in your computer but drive a twingo
Are you trying to breed from them?
I still have only 2... One 1991 Vogue SE Automatic and one 1994 Vogue SE 5 speed manual both with 3.9 V8 engine and hard dashes... The older one as a daily driver, the other for 4wheeling offroad... I'm a RR enthusiast since the launch in 71... I was 10 at these times...
That’s 8 cars ya mad man 😂
I owned exactly this age and model with the air suspension. The most comfortable go anywhere car I’ve owned. An armchair that could take you anywhere. Converted to LPG (with underslung tanks under the sills) it was ‘almost’ affordable to run! Any that are for sale now will have undoubtedly been restored and had the rust etc sorted so could actually make a good buy so long as you can afford the fuel (14mpg!) or convert to LPG as I did and I think the looks have aged well 👍
Hi Reinman. If you don't mind me asking, what were the pros and cons of such a conversion?
@@risengabaloyi8126 no cons at all in terms of runnning. The engine would start on petrol (it retained a small 6 gallon tank in the rear wing) and then as soon as you used the throttle it switched automatically over to LPG and just drove normally. There was a small electrical switch on the dash where you could switch back to petrol if needed, ie running out of lpg. That was the only drawback, the lack of lpg filling stations which you would have to seek out if on a long journey. The only thing I would say is to get the conversion done by an expert. There are plenty of ‘back street’ converters who will chuck a donut gas tank in the boot and won’t set the whole system up properly. Pay for it to be done correctly (the tanks underslung out of the way give you bigger capacity and range) and you’ll have no issues 👍
@@reinmansmith Thank you, appreciate it!
Bolivia special. No more words needed.
Iconic cars to do Rover SD1 and Reliant Scimitar
You don’t see these anymore. Great video
the point of the high seat position and tight fit is because you offroad with your window down and lean out the side half the time to see where you're placing the tyres. Lean out and notice you can see both front and rear perfectly as opposed to modern SUVs
Great Vid.
Had TWO of the the V8 petrol`s and a P38 series. Terrible cars for reliability and rust magnets.Collapsed sub frames turned them into potential death traps not to forget the inherent engine issues. I worked for an engine reconditioning business and the owner had there Range Rovers`s at the same time of varying ages. One of the newer ones was involved in a product recall for its engine except Range Rover called it 'A free customer loyalty performance up grade' I also had a Wrangler 4.2ltr CJ7with removable doors, soft top and a fold down front wind screen. That was a beast. They were all like expensive mistresses. Attention seeking money black holes but enjoyable rides.
great video
This is not just a car it's a transporter of god's... The golden god!
That was a great video. Did you ever do one of these video's on the P38? I've got one of the very last P38's, a 2002 Vogue SE in Alveston Red that would make a great follow up to the Classic video!
I didnt, and would love to - drop me a line!
@@JayEmmOnCars Will do. Is there a best way to do so? I've got a bit of an unusual collection :)
Tuve este, y me encanto.
Interesting. Now that you’re driving your head seems to have good clearance.
A true icon, the vehicle I would love to own but am not committed enough to pay to own. I do love them though.
Jay. Epitome. It's pronounced eh-pit-o-mi. The final e is not silent.
Good review though
I made the same mistake with "awry" many years ago. It only broadens your education.
Nice review, with interesting facts
@Georgy Boy Something's gone awry when it hasn't gone to plan, or gone wrong. Don't say I never learn you nowt!
Kraken1000 wrong
well spotted ;-) As soon as I heard him saying it I almost yelled at him like "it's pronounced uh·pi·tuh·mee, for crying out loud!" And I got english as a second language... ;-)
A starter car? This is a finisher car!
Had a 73 Range Rover. Was a brilliant car.
Hmm, icons ideas: Mini, 2CV, E-Type, Miura, Series 1 Landie. M3, Golf GTI, MX5 (sorry Lotus Elan), 911, F1, Citroen DS, Ford Crapi (not a typo).
Good luck with that little list.
2cv!!!!!!!!! it's a "point and laugh" car, unless you understand it
Thank you for the video. Regards from Costa Rica.
How much is coke selling for.??? 😀😀
@@stringer-ik1pc Coke selling of 600 ml is $2.
@@caballero9974 😀😀👍
@@stringer-ik1pc ;)
I remember when the Range Rover looked like this.
Hoping to have this as my first car
Nice review! Iconic cars? Guessing it'll be mainly UK-based, so here's a small list: Mini, Morris Minor, E-Type Jaguar, XJ6, Rover SD1 3500, Capri 2.8i, Ford Escort Mk2, Cortina MkIII, Lotus Cortina Mk1, Land Rover Discovery 1, Land Rover 90/110/Defender, BMW 2002, BMW 635CSi, Lotus Elise, Caterham 7, Ford Transit, MGB, Lotus Carlton, Jensen Interceptor, Astra GTE 16v, Escort RS Turbo, Sierra Cosworth RS500, Bentley Mulsanne Turbo. That'll do for now...
Of those I'd say E Type, MINI, Capri, original Landy, Transit are all definitely icons.
The golf surely has to appear in this series. The recipe for hot hatches was almost defined by it!
@ whilst I agree the sunbeam and the Chevette are iconic cars and should feature in the series also! Honestly i was looking at a friends pristine sunbeam this morning and have another friend that has a beautiful chevette both extraordinary cars... I dont feel they had the commercial success that the golf has. And it was the mixture that VW used that really took the market by storm.
@@UNIT9TV the thing about the golf though, if you aren't "a vw guy", it's a bunch of ordinary with rubbish brakes. The sunbeam had been to lotus, and it goes like hell! First time i saw a sunbeam on top gear, it was sideways with its rear tyres on fire. Golf? understeering with a back wheel in the air.
Everyone seems to forget about the Alfasud
@@chrisdavidson911 I completely agree. If i had to go out tomorrow and buy one I'd be in the sunbeam before the sun came up! I'm not a VW guy by any stretch of the imagination either but the commercial success of the golf and following and fanbase it has created is just mega.
The Classic is more use than the Defender or the Disco & has more inside space than the Defender. Loads can be carried on the roof with roof bars or poking out of the tail gate. Uprating the suspension ruins the ride keep it as LR made it. Fuel is 17.5 mpg but parts are cheap so DIY & save £'s. Always wash winter salt away as body repairs are time consuming. We have 1 Defender 110 3 Disco's & 3 Classics...
How about a RR Camargue, most unusual, and maybe a bit controversial? However, a very interesting car for sure!
Great car my dad had one ,what's golem doing in the back ?
Jay the only guy I know that does not need a ladder to wash the roof of an suv.
The Upper Tailgate Catches are at each side. Open using the Handle. Close By Gently Pushing down on both lower corners evenly.
Or Grease & Re set the catches correctly.
For Closing DO NOT SLAM, Finger pressure Firmly on the Lower Frame at each corner is enough.
OLD Range Rovers are QUIRKY Vehicles. To own one you need to fully understand them & how to use them correctly.
They are A MACHINE. For Work. NOT a SHOPPING TROLLY. !!
They need Regular Care & Maintenance. Even when Fairly New.
Don't MOAN at them,, Learn to UNDERSTAND them . I think they are the BEST CAR EVER MADE. Nothing will EVER be Better.
100% agree. The best car i've ever owned and better than a brand new mercedes g wagon which i have also driven. My old classic destroyed the G for comfort, ease of driving and enjoyment.
Wished I bought one ,, always admired and respected despite the odd horror story ,, cheers Shane uk 🇬🇧
Do they have the unreliable air suspension? Or the simple and reliable leaf springs?
What main camera mount is that on the windscreen?
Definitely need a Classic Mini for the icon series!
Can you see him fitting in one. 😕???
@@stringer-ik1pc They're roomier inside than you might think! With a slightly lowered seat, at almost 6ft I fit in mine with a race helmet on and still have a bit of room above my head. Horizontally could be a different story though! Here's proof that I fit!: th-cam.com/video/L_lNbBrMDbk/w-d-xo.html
I love the burble of the V8.
20 years driven, 1981 till 2000. (4door 126 hp). A book about this car! (Germany Autobahn)
Really good review, never been in one so never realised just how cramped they could be for us 6 footers.
I own one...they are not cramped and I'm 1,92 tall!
@@mauricewanink1452 You make a valid point, Ed China from Wheeler Dealers drives one and he's 2 metres/6ft 7in tall and he's not cramped....what is JayEmm talking about?!
@@graemew7001 I don't know? The seat position is trucklike... Very different from a normal or sports car.
@@mauricewanink1452 Thats probably it then, Jay doesn't tend to test cars like the Range Rover very often so the position felt alien to him. I prefer to be sat up like that in a car....but that's probably an age thing, I struggle with the low down stuff now 😂
I drive a '92 Vogue LSE and I am 200 cm tall (6' 6"). Not very spacious, but I fit.
very good
My dream car
Mk1 VW Golf GTi would be my suggestion. Iconic car that ignited the hot hatch frenzy❓Even if the Alfa-sud was the 1st.....discuss😁
Mike Shacklock or just watch the other thousand videos of them
I have four cars, maybe try the Golf Syncro Country? We use this as the hauling crap around car. From my understanding this was the very first SUV. It wont be sold. Sits beside a Golf Mk5 GTI daily, Lotus Elise daily and an integrale Evo2 just for polishing and nice days. Try the Country, it crap but unusual.
Edit- I really want a Unimog. Please find a cool one you can explore in!
9:20 I think that RR is haunted.
Yep, it’s a classic. Right up until the transfer case, differential and/or transmission goes south. Then it’s second mortgage time.
Back when cars had things known as "edges" and "corners".
Hey Jay ! You keep on saying you’re Big, but how big are you ? I’m 1.85 m high and weigh 88 kg.....and fit nicely in my P38, haven’t been in the good ‘ol classic though, really that small ?
I owned a $4000.00 TD 5 Discovery, which sadly was written off recently.
It cost about $18000.00 in restoration in the seven years I owned it. Ridiculous I know but I miss it so much.
It has to be the epitome of a love hate scenario
If you can find one, how about an 80's Audi coupe quattro
Where filmed thanks
Classic owners in Europe are sucking up all old roaches, parts cars, the interior parts, leathr seats, burl, drivelines, glass, wheels, all components are invaluable to them, and high end builders.... you need 3 to build 1... rust buckets... now ya cant find a roach for under $3000
panel gap between the bonnet and wing that you can literally get your fingers in to. "they don't make 'em like they used to!"
morris marina door handles!! back then you couldn't get away from them
Rangey Panel Gaps were Designed into the car for a very good reason.
To Allow the Body & Chassis to bend & flex whilst off roading.
A design FEATURE not Poor Build Quality.
( that Bonnet is missing it's rubber stops. which hold it in place.
@@A1DJPaul weird that the windscreens weren't notorious for popping out then?
@@chrisdavidson911 Poorly fitted replacements Maybe ? Look at the size & thickness of the screen rubbers. Another design Feature for a reason.
They are also Fairly rigid in the screen area. due to the bulkhead & 'A' pillars.
Part of the appeal is the giant panel gaps ! Buy a Lexus instead?
@@chrisdavidson911 They are suspended in rubber for that.. very clever.. 😁
Icons to try to get hold of:
Renault Clio Williams
VW Golf GTI MK1
Ford Capri
Ford Sierra Cosworth
Ford Fiesta XR2i
Toyota Supra
Subaru Impreza P1
You obviously come from a council estate. Barry.
I sold mine years ago, fella called Tony tucker bought it.
I assume he paid cash lol
Hahaha
The legend car..
I have a very special rangerover classic recovery unit
Good solid review. I have always thought when I first saw one in 1969 that it is the most beautiful car ever made! I still do! Would I buy one, nearly did but the mpg put me off!
Elegant, just beautiful! ooohhhh! I'm getting a warm feeling.....damm! It's incontinence!
I do like these classic,s, but i hate the soft dash and prefer the older hard dash cars.
Take the 20mm spacers out from under the seat mounts, feels lower of coarse then the sunvisors are next bu to useless for most of us
I fit in mine quite well, cut down on the pukka pies big lad
Well I would probably go with the landrover 80 inch.
A proper Range Rover 😎
Icon....how about e-type, Defender, Mini, the old Ford mini-vans, Jeep CJ, 1st gen water-cooled FWD VW
Quick nip down to an isolated farm in Essex....
Do the Leyyyyylaaaannnndddd!
Ford fiesta rs from the 90s uber cool
Renault 5 gt turbo, Renault clio vr6 both rare cars. My father has a Peugeot m16i brilliant motor how ever needs alot of tlc now due to ill health.
Car sos I would suggest
If you're over six foot tall, you have to adopt the Italian car driving posture. Slouched down in the seat. Legs spread. It's quite comfortable. FYI the 3.9 is adequate for the car. if you're heavy with your foot from standstill, it takes off like a scalded cat. This is a 40 year old design, or older. So comparing it with anything modern is apples and oranges.
Even the 3.5 is As quick as you need. But the 3.9 EFi Should be AWESOME QUICK. Give it a service.
Any Faster & City NUMPTIES would Crash them. Crapping their pants at the Natural Bodyroll on bends..
see comment above reference 1.5 inch spacers installed as standard
Nosferatu in the passenger seat?
I've had two e38 7-Series and I wouldn't recommend it to my worst enemy! The running costs were astronomical, reliability was dodgy, at best, and they rusted just from thinking of rain.
The 7-Series is what killed my enthusiasm for BMW entirely. I've since moved to Jaguar and couldn't be happier... yes, from German engineering to Jag, and it's worlds better. Let that sink in :-D
@ Maybe I had a pair of lemons, hard to say, but based on my personal account, I don't see any Bavarians returning to our garage :-D
Couldn't agree more, had an e34 525i awful thing! The Germans aren't very good at rust protection.
My E60 hasn't rusted.
3.9L V8 = 190bhp!!! That's American level of motor engineering
The low compression version of this 3.9 had 139bhp.
How tall are you if you don’t mind me asking?
About 5 10
I would love to see you squished in a original mini Cooper for a review 😂
I actually fit in them better!
how tall are you
No mention or demonstration of the iconic split tailgate? Young’uns probably think you have to lift stuff up and through the hatch 😅
I did mention said tailgate did I not?
JayEmm on Cars The top hatch but not the bottom one. (The iconic bit 😉)
@@ForecourtFilms I kinda figured by now people knew how they worked
How about a series 1 e type ?
Sounds like a good idea so long as he doesn't get a first edition flat floor model, I'm 6 feet tall and have driven one, not comfortable for long legs hence the reason that Jaguar altered the design on later cars.
"it drives like a Defender" because the the RRC chassis, axles etc. were used for the Defender. It is identical except from some little details.
I drive a crusty '86 with 2.4 VM Diesel (now fitted with a '74 V8) and I love it!
And I have another two "under (re-)construction".
I spent my childhood climbing about inside one of these like it was someone's drawing room. What the hell kind of Godzilla are you that you find it cramped??? 😂😂😂