A better view is that every carry gun is a compromise. I choose a j frame because I can carry it every day in any thing from wranglers to a dress suite. Would more rounds be better? Yes only if it doesn't compromise my ability to carry always.
I kinda get it. But sometimes trouble comes to your little paradise. Fact it 1 shot stops are rare and quite often criminals travel in packs. I'm happy with my 5 shot snubby most days but I'm aware of its limitations and when I go to town I grab something with more capacity.
Loved your video. I carried exact same model 638. I’ve been caring it for seven years and never had a problem with it. I also keep a speed strip with five extra rounds in my pocket in case I have to reload.
I bought a Model 649 (shrouded hammer) because I liked the fact that it accepted .357 rounds. Now, I just use .38 defensive rounds. Easy to carry, reliable and classic. After a practicing with it, I can group five shots in a two inches at 20 feet. I'll never need more than that.
I have a 649 as well, and also it's aluminum 438 counterpart, both awesome looking guns, gotta love that humpback, I'm a fan of revolvers and you couldn't pay me the own a semi pistol although I will *rent one at the range... For my semi trigger needs I have an MP 1522
Over the years I've went from 1911, to polyframe subcompact, to snub nose revolvers. Since I've been carrying my S&W Featherlite, I hardly can tell it's there. Makes motorcycle rides very comfortable, ect. Totally agree with this gentleman.
My S&W 642 revolver is my only handgun to malfunction to the point of inoperability out of over half a dozen pistols and revolvers. The main spring was binding and keeping the DAO (hammerless) action from working. I like to mention that to revolver fanboys. I still carry that revolver often (after restoring it to proper working condition of course).
I love my S&W Model 638! I have the "No Lock" version and I will never part with this gun. I have used it in a pocket holster and also in the Galco Ankle Holster! My early training was with Revolvers and I carried one as my Duty Weapon for many years before switching to a Glock 19. After I retired, I now carry a G43 as my EDC but I still at times, will carry that S&W snub nose revolver!
I hear him and get where’s he’s coming from. But I’ve had a well respected revolver (Ruger), completely lock up on me. The cylinder wouldn’t spin and it wouldn’t cycle. Everything can fail...
Revolvers handle neglect well and not abuse the opposite for semi autos. If I'm leaving a gun in a drawer for years on end its a revolver if I'm gonna shoot it a lot it's a semi.
I have that same North American Arms mini revolver in .22 magnum. I would conceal carry it because it's so easy and comfortable. It would just be annoying to carry anything much larger unless you're going into a combat zone.
@Reese Willis A 357 and 1911 isn't comfortable to carry even on a large body. I'm 6'2" an 200lbs and it's not comfortable to carry anything larger than Ruger LCP .380. Small is better for me. I don't like having a large chunk of something on my waist when I sit down. The only way I would tolerate doing that to myself is if I was in a combat zone.
I agree with everyone who wants all the rounds they can get...that is smart. However, exactly as stated here. I carry my M66 combat magnum daily bc I do not get to train clearing those malfunctions nearly enough. I know my shield and my Glock are very reliable...but they are sub compacts and can easily malfunction do to USER error. I am more than comfortable with my 6 rounds of Federal Vital shock 140 gr .357 magnum...as long as the cylinder never freezes lol
And you just defeated your whole entire comment by admitting as long as the cylinder never freezes. And if it does, then that gun just now became a paper weight. At least with a semi auto you can easily clear it and get it up and running. Now the pros to a revolver would be the fact you can push the barrel into someone and not worry about anything going out of battery. And for some people they can be just as easy as operating a semi automatic.
I carry a 638 exactly like he had appendix carry and an NAA pug in my right pocket. Interesting he has almost the same setup that I do. The difference is I don't have to unfold my pug. I never feel under gunned with 10 rounds at the ready. With my hands in my pocket I already have my hand on one gun and another option only a couple of inches away.
I love snubbies. I pocket carry a Charter Arms On Duty Bulldog .44 Special in the same shrouded hammer configuration for exactly the same reasons. Thank you for your video.
Thank you. I really like your setup. I'd been considering a S&W revolver, but I was going to go with a hammerless version. However, I hadn't thought about actually wanting to cock the hammer, and once I did consider that I 100% agree with you.
I have similar views although I would choose one of the 6 shot versions available like Taurus 856 or Colt D frame and clones or even one of the 8 shot .22 magnums. Most likely scenarios being very close range and even contact range I prefer not to have to worry about limp wristing or getting pushed out of battery due to contact. Ideally I would also carry something like a Bersa Thunder plus or CZ83 as backup for the extremely unlikely need for prolonged fire fight. For home of course I would like to have access to a rifle with moderate loads.
He sounds like a fudd... But the one thing he failed to mention is that if a revolver does malfunction, you're pretty much screwed. Most issues on semi autos can be fixed with tap-rack-bang and/ or dropping the mag, but if the revolver "jams" up, there isn't anything you can do about it...
@Jacob Roy If it is actually jammed, the cylinder won't rotate, therefore it will no longer fire. The situation you just described is a misfire/hangfire...
@Jacob Roy Do I think it happens often and/or easily... No. However I have had it happen to me personally twice. I also do a little bit of gunsmithing on the side as a hobby/ secondary income and have had a couple brought to me that were jammed.
I am an old fart. I like all kinds of guns. I shoot all types of guns, not just handguns. I like making my own ammo and that helps me get the best accuracy I can from my guns. I like carrying a Smith and Wesson J-frame 38spl. It works, every time. I have repaired revolvers that "locked up". There are only a few things that make that happen. (1) Bad reloads. Either they were loaded too hot and the load forced the primers to come out or the brass was bulging near the primer end of the case and was not properly resized and this kept the cartridge from seating all the way into the cylinder which cause the gun to bind when the cylinder rotated. (2) Incorrect cleaning and lubrication. Too much oil in the wrong places left there over time turns to sludge and can make a revolver not work. Seen it and fixed it countless times. (3) Gun abuse. The TV cop shows where the guy checks his revolver and flicks the cylinder closed. That will, over time, ruin a revolver. (4) Timing issues. As the hammer goes back and the cylinder rotates, there are little parts inside the revolver that must move exactly right and on time or the gun will not function properly. When this problem comes around it is never quick. It happens over time and eventually the gun fails to work. In rare times, internal springs / parts can break. Fixed a bunch of these. This kind of repair work comes from reasons 1 through 3 I already mentioned. My point is, properly maintained and not abused, a revolver is rock solid. Treated like shit, it will fail at some point. Same for any other gun as well.
@@scriptkeeper8243 Watch some videos of how things like this goes down. The only time firing from a coat pocket is practical is of you are at knife fighting distance. Other wise wait for a better opening.
@@Situationdevelopment you're essentially talking about the same thing in both of those instances. The pocket revolver could easily be feigned as reaching for a wallet to hand over to a mugger. If a gun is already drawn on you, it's not likely you're going to get a turn. You've already lost the initiative to draw from any traditional location.
@@scriptkeeper8243 Ok Mr expert NRA Spec OPs Space ship door gunner. I'm glad you can pocket snipe with a revolver from at jacket pocket at anything you want past 3 feet.
So my six shot .357mag is too much. I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Hey Gov Cuomo should my rifle be limited to 5rds too?
Any pistol is low capacity. When you live or move in Bagdad Illinois .. rifle or combat shotgun. NY reload is just topping of the cake. Drone, sniper near by all needed
It has been my experience that, Guns fail. Guns are machines, often simple, I grant you, but machines none the less. Any gun can and will fail. It is all a matter of time. Might be today, tomorrow, or two hundred years from now... Eventually any and all mechanical things fail. So my advice? Carry what you like, and what you shoot best. DA revolver, Glock, CZ75, Derringer, 1911, Colt SAA or a Flintlock pistol... If you shoot it, and you like it, carry it. ^.-.^
The interesting thing about all this topic is that - so more professional people are so less they care about high amount of bullets. You see rangers with 1911s or hiking guides who carry 9 mm 15 shots pistols....and they're not affaraid. It seems that with more dealing with the threat the people become more realistic.....
@@Anubis78250 The maximum average speed you're likely to ever travel in the USA is 70mph, cars can still go up to 140mph for those rare occasions you might need the speed and/or power.
Hi John: Thanks for sharing your expertise with us. You did not specify if your North American Arms revolver is 22 LR or 22 Magnum. I live in a very hot/humid area where more than a short sleeve shirt or tee shirt is rarely needed so the AA revolver is very convenient. However it's only chambered in 22 LR or 22 Mag. The 22 Mag may not reach its full potential in such a short barrel so I'm interested in knowing which one you carry.
Neither of them reach their full potential in a short barrel. The .22 mag is definitely more powerful from a 1” barrel. I carry the lr as the gun is smaller and I don’t own any .22 mag guns.
His reasoning of "shouldn't have been there" is not practical or relevant. If you're in a bad situation a lecture won't save you like additional rounds will
I disagree with that whole thing about "if you need more than 5 shots you shouldn't have gone there". If you know you will need a gun, you should NEVER go there. The point of carrying a gun is to have it in an unexpected situation, it is not to put yourself in that situation.
As someone who carried a revolver and almost had to use one when faced by 3 would be bad guys...my first thought after was, I FELT UNDER GUNNED. since then, Glock 19 or Glock 20 for me. (depending on clothes, + extra mag). 16 chances or 5 chances ? Your choice.
NAA 22 mag Revolver is clipped in My Front Pocket All the Time! My Other Two EDC, I Swap Out With These Two, A Taurus Public Defender Poly Revolver Loaded With 5 Federal 0OO Buckshot and a Glock 17 Gen 3! NAA 22 Mag Revolver All The Time and One of the Other Two Sometimes!!!
Revolvers are great. Don't kid yourself about some magical superior reliability. the only reason revolvers have an appearance of better reliability is because people don't shoot them as much. The more you fire a gun = larger sample size = greater chance you will have noticeable failure. When a modern pistol stops you just clear and reload it, when a revolver stops it's often out of the fight. They're man made tools.
As a former police officer for 15 years (I went to the dark side and am currently a Fire Chief lol) I agree with you about carrying 5 rounds. If you are not in the field where that is your job full time, 1- 5 shot revolver should be all you will need for personal protection. I always carried a speed strip along with my snubby off duty and still do, but that is personal preference. Good video!
@Baldspot Civilian self defense is a different mission. We do not need to stop/apprehend a perp at distance. In the LE situation the bad guy is motivated as he knows that he can not just flee as they will follow. If we get the attacker to flee we have essentially succeeded and they know this. We need to incapacitate or discourage a close range threat where LE needs to apprehend at various ranges.
@@mkshffr4936 Then what say you to active shooter scenarios? Shooter with a long gun and perhaps even plates? Walks in while you’re in a movie theater, or church etc? Still want to bet those 5 shots of 38 +p oughta be enough? I get it that those type of scenarios are exceedingly rare, but so is any scenario where we as citizens, have to draw our firearms in defense. We train for the worst case, so why would a person want to intentionally limit their capacity to defend themselves with the mindset of “if you need more than 5 shots, you shouldn’t be there”. I don’t mean this to come off snarky, but it’s the same argument anti gunners make about ARs.
@@Cdubp01 You bring up some interesting points. As a preface let me point out that I didn't use the "you shouldn't be there" argument so let's set that aside. As to a rifleman with body armor I wouldn't want to go up against that with any handgun (especially by myself). There will always be some scenario where one is outgunned. It is always a case of individual risk analysis. My point in setting forth the mission difference was that the particular mission of LE and military puts a greater emphasis on capacity and to some extent power than the civilian case. Even in the active shooter scenario my mission would be to break contact as soon as possible where the LE would need to go in and neutralize the threat. Of course if the perp is wearing plates his Glock isn't going to cut it either. You say you don't know why one would intentionally limit their capacity. I think you are missing the point here. Revolver users do not intentionally limit capacity. Any limitation is a side effect of other priorities. So while I have carried a 5 shot my next carry revolver will be of higher capacity. 6 shots of center fire are quite doable in pocket revolvers and up to 8 in larger but still concealable frames. However for my circumstances the advantages of the revolver especially for use at contact ranges (much more likely than engaging a sniper in my case) are more compelling. Ideally I would love to have a high'ish capacity auto as a backup but not only does one need the money but as a married man I can't just set spending priorities all by myself.
@@mkshffr4936 Yes, no-I didn’t mean to imply you said that, the man in the video did in reference to not needing more than 5 shots. I’m sorry I implicated you in that point. I agree, going head to head with someone so disparagingly equipped is not the ideal scenario. There are few examples in which I would “choose” not to break contact such as yourself. But as we know-we don’t set the time and place, so that “choice” isn’t always ours. Some encounters are so egregious that breaking contact would be a moral hardship, ie school shootings. A Glock more than likely will not cut it, but I would argue it offers more opportunity. At the very least, the more time a shooter is involved engaging a Good Samaritan in a gun fight, the more time elapses for potential victims to escape, even if that’s at the demise of said Good Samaritan; I say that’s a win. Now grant you, I’m saying that as a single man with no children, everyone’s priorities are different. I hold no judgement on the choice to flee. I can not say that I would have the intestinal fortitude to shoot it out, never really know until you know. My comment on choosing to limit yourself is in relation to the choice of a wheel gun compared to auto guns of similar size for carry. I will grant you, contact interference is a solid argument; something I can’t really argue in defense of auto guns aside from the 1911, and I’m not an advocate of carrying that platform. All in all you make good points, and I appreciate the civility of your reply. We all do better to learn from each others experience and wisdom. Cheers to you and I hope the wifey lets you trade in some brownie points for that auto one day 😉
You are absolutely correct on range time. There are now millions of new gun owners since Obama was president. Less than 1% of those people have been to a range more than once, if at all. Yes there are more people taking classes. New gun ranges are being built. But what about: Ranges fees, can you afford them? Is there a range near your home? 30 minute drive or 1 hour drive? The range you go to is it for hand guns only? Most ranges can't handle rifle caliber weapons. Or a 12 gage shotgun. Do you have the $$$ for monthly ammo? You are married with kids. Do you have the time??? Do you live in a city (no range) or the country?
Just to clarify are you saying people shouldnt carry high capacity firearms or are you saying they are frivolous for most people. Because I disagree with the first and agree with the second. I carry a single stack 9mm most days. How ever if I didnt live in Cali I'd have a double stack 9mm with 15 round capacity and several spares. Keep in mind evil people go to safe places (locations and towns) to pull their crap. Is it more common than a single mugger? No. Does it happen yes. I carry a small amount of first aid on my person and have more in my truck the same goes with firearms.
" Five shots should be enough and if it's not you shouldn't go there"...... Well, you are probably right in the 90 percent of the self defense situations those five or six rounds should be enough.... however the problem is the remaining 10 percent of the situations when it happens what shouldn't happen, life has shown us that things that shouldn't happen can and will actually happen and your statement that in that case "you shouldn't go there" well that's not your choice because when you or someone else is attacked you have no choice, you either defend yourself or risk losing your life or be injured for life, I believe that anyone with a reasonable mind if they have a way out without the necessity of a shootout they will choose the safest way to escape an attack but unfortunately sometimes there is no way out and I do believe that you have the right to reduce the risk of losing your life or be injured as much as you can. So I do believe that having more rounds on one go without having to reload is the better option. However I do agree that a revolver has it's advantages (not jaming) as you said, so considering all of that I believe that everyone should decide for themselves regarding their self defense weapon of choice!
although i think something is better than nothing is right, his statement * if you need more than 5 shots you shouldn't of been there in the first place* is absolutely ridiculous. what if your dealing with a mass shooter or someone comes to your home with a gun. i want as much fire power i can have.
Good "Common sense" video. You're going to catch some flack over your choice of carry but if it works for you, it WORKS. I carry the Heritage Bar Keep .22 magnum revolver. I converted it from a 6 shot to a 9 shot.
True, but is far less likely than a failure to feed, failure to extract, limp wristing induced failure, double feed, or magazine failure. Far more chances to have a problem occur with a pistol due to moving parts and action design. The only cause for such a catastrophic revolver failure is a bullet that pulled out from the case due to an improper roll crimp on said bullet, stoping the cylinder from rotating. And yes I shoot them all, am an ex military combat arms soldier, and a certified firearms instructor.
One unsung advantage of revolvers is the fact they do not need to eject cases when they're discharged. If you have to fire a gun lets say, in your car, it would be beneficial not to have a hot piece of brass whizzing into a delicate surface (a touch screen for example).
If you have the choice to protect your life with double the capacity and same size frame that a revolver like this gives you, why wouldn't you? Also takes a lot more practice & skill to shoot accurately with a revolver than it does with a semi automatic as well. Had a 637, hated it and when it came time to sell it could not give that gun away. I own 1 revolver now just for leisure shooting, a 686. Love it and fun to shoot, but I personally would never choose a revolver as an EDC over a semi automatic.
Both of those carry options require too many steps. No thanks. Forget cocking the hammer. Let's talk about the fact that the holster is coming out with the firearm.
No it doesn't. The holsters stay put in your pocket, and only the gun comes out. Now returning the gun. It is a good idea to remove the holster first, then slude the gun in before placing it back in your pocket.
Nah. Real fudds don't even have CCW permits (remember, their guns are just for hunting those wascally wabbits), or if they do, they almost never carry (unless they are going someplace "dangerous"). This guy is just more conservative in what he carries for personal protection. Personally, I think the NAA mini is a poor choice compared to a pocket 380, but his S&W 638 snubby is a fine choice. While I prefer semi-autos with a higher capacity, the reality is that his little 5 shot .38 will solve 99.9%+ of the problems he may encounter that require a gun. Remember that in the VAST majority of times when a gun is used to defend one's self merely displaying the weapon to the criminal stops the threat 97-99% of the time. For those instances in which shooting is necessary, the vast majority are solved in 3 rounds or less (see Tom Givens rule of 3: 3 round at 3 yards in 3 seconds). The instances when more than 5 rounds are needed (even when dealing with multiple attackers) are few and far between.
I carry a very compact automatic that would only be a solution if I'd had space. If I was jumped and in a tussle, I think I'd much rather have a compact revolver.
Oh your friend wants as many shots as possible? The issue with that is who will be serving jury duty and who is your District Attorney? Are they an ally? The best thing about a revolver or even just those mouse guns are that they are Old School. That's a perception. Like the color pink. Its not a girl's color. Its a man's color. But thats a story for another day. Perception can be molded. What does the soccer mom on the jury think? Probably watched Bonanza a bunch or Little House on the Prairie as a child. A pink j Frame revolver can have a positive effect in perception. Unless any type of defense is seen as criminal. Still a cute pink pistol has its advantages.
Liked everything but the “i cock it if I can”, that’s not a great thing to do in a self defense shooting, it can be used against you in court for one. Id only need to cock the hammer if I was trying to take a long precision shot and in that case I probably shouldn’t be shooting someone that far anyways. I have and carry a S&W 642 and the same NAA revolver. Good stuff! 👍🏻
"If you need more than 5 shots you shouldn't have gone there." AKA Boomer Logic and he probably supports the ban of "assault weapons" and "high capacity magazines".
Sitting on your defensive gun sounds stupid ,back pocket carry. him saying 5 rounds is enough is also stupid and the shouldn't have gone there is wrong he most live in a fantasy world. Revolvers do malfunction
A snub nose 38 has significantly worse ballistics compare to 9mm; in fact, a snub nose 357 has near identical ballistics to 9mm. Five shots work for one attacker if all five shots fire. 👍
The only thing i dont agree with is the "if you need more than 5 shots you shouldn't have gone there." The fact of it is YOU'RE THERE.
A better view is that every carry gun is a compromise. I choose a j frame because I can carry it every day in any thing from wranglers to a dress suite. Would more rounds be better? Yes only if it doesn't compromise my ability to carry always.
I kinda get it. But sometimes trouble comes to your little paradise. Fact it 1 shot stops are rare and quite often criminals travel in packs. I'm happy with my 5 shot snubby most days but I'm aware of its limitations and when I go to town I grab something with more capacity.
This guy is friends with joe Biden they teach a home defense class for wives call fire two blasts
Then why carry it in the first place?
“My personal opinion…”
Well your personal opinion is as lame as that stupid shirt your wearing.
Loved your video. I carried exact same model 638. I’ve been caring it for seven years and never had a problem with it. I also keep a speed strip with five extra rounds in my pocket in case I have to reload.
I bought a Model 649 (shrouded hammer) because I liked the fact that it accepted .357 rounds. Now, I just use .38 defensive rounds. Easy to carry, reliable and classic. After a practicing with it, I can group five shots in a two inches at 20 feet. I'll never need more than that.
I have a 649 as well, and also it's aluminum 438 counterpart, both awesome looking guns, gotta love that humpback, I'm a fan of revolvers and you couldn't pay me the own a semi pistol although I will *rent one at the range... For my semi trigger needs I have an MP 1522
Over the years I've went from 1911, to polyframe subcompact, to snub nose revolvers. Since I've been carrying my S&W Featherlite, I hardly can tell it's there. Makes motorcycle rides very comfortable, ect. Totally agree with this gentleman.
About the same here, my carry now in S&W 642
He seems like a nice man
and honest and sincere.
@@richardkluesek4301 and unapologetic and content.
@@MarkelBeverley and a beast with a single action.
No joke, this is my carry setup subbing the 638 for a 637. The naa is the same 22lr with the holster clip. Nice
My S&W 642 revolver is my only handgun to malfunction to the point of inoperability out of over half a dozen pistols and revolvers. The main spring was binding and keeping the DAO (hammerless) action from working. I like to mention that to revolver fanboys. I still carry that revolver often (after restoring it to proper working condition of course).
I love J frames.
I love my S&W Model 638! I have the "No Lock" version and I will never part with this gun. I have used it in a pocket holster and also in the Galco Ankle Holster! My early training was with Revolvers and I carried one as my Duty Weapon for many years before switching to a Glock 19. After I retired, I now carry a G43 as my EDC but I still at times, will carry that S&W snub nose revolver!
Thanks for sharing Steve. Nice to have some options.
S&W should make a modern version of the Schofield...
I hear him and get where’s he’s coming from. But I’ve had a well respected revolver (Ruger), completely lock up on me. The cylinder wouldn’t spin and it wouldn’t cycle. Everything can fail...
Well, yeah, Ruger... that makes sense.
Revolvers handle neglect well and not abuse the opposite for semi autos. If I'm leaving a gun in a drawer for years on end its a revolver if I'm gonna shoot it a lot it's a semi.
@@tbsb8428 I've never had that many problems with rugers. I'm curious where this sentiment comes from.
@@tbsb8428 I had a smith tie up as well
Cool story bro
I have that same North American Arms mini revolver in .22 magnum. I would conceal carry it because it's so easy and comfortable. It would just be annoying to carry anything much larger unless you're going into a combat zone.
@Reese Willis A 357 and 1911 isn't comfortable to carry even on a large body. I'm 6'2" an 200lbs and it's not comfortable to carry anything larger than Ruger LCP .380. Small is better for me. I don't like having a large chunk of something on my waist when I sit down. The only way I would tolerate doing that to myself is if I was in a combat zone.
right, re 'jams', carry a back-up, ie, drop the jammed-auto, draw the back-up; ditto for tac-reloading, draw the back-up.
Mr. Clark, thank you for the advice. I like the ideas that you have.
Last month I purchased and now carry the S&W 638 (among others) dropping it off at the gun store today for trigger work.
I agree with everyone who wants all the rounds they can get...that is smart. However, exactly as stated here. I carry my M66 combat magnum daily bc I do not get to train clearing those malfunctions nearly enough. I know my shield and my Glock are very reliable...but they are sub compacts and can easily malfunction do to USER error. I am more than comfortable with my 6 rounds of Federal Vital shock 140 gr .357 magnum...as long as the cylinder never freezes lol
And you just defeated your whole entire comment by admitting as long as the cylinder never freezes. And if it does, then that gun just now became a paper weight. At least with a semi auto you can easily clear it and get it up and running.
Now the pros to a revolver would be the fact you can push the barrel into someone and not worry about anything going out of battery. And for some people they can be just as easy as operating a semi automatic.
I carry a 638 exactly like he had appendix carry and an NAA pug in my right pocket. Interesting he has almost the same setup that I do. The difference is I don't have to unfold my pug. I never feel under gunned with 10 rounds at the ready. With my hands in my pocket I already have my hand on one gun and another option only a couple of inches away.
I love snubbies. I pocket carry a Charter Arms On Duty Bulldog .44 Special in the same shrouded hammer configuration for exactly the same reasons. Thank you for your video.
Thank you. I really like your setup. I'd been considering a S&W revolver, but I was going to go with a hammerless version. However, I hadn't thought about actually wanting to cock the hammer, and once I did consider that I 100% agree with you.
I have similar views although I would choose one of the 6 shot versions available like Taurus 856 or Colt D frame and clones or even one of the 8 shot .22 magnums. Most likely scenarios being very close range and even contact range I prefer not to have to worry about limp wristing or getting pushed out of battery due to contact. Ideally I would also carry something like a Bersa Thunder plus or CZ83 as backup for the extremely unlikely need for prolonged fire fight. For home of course I would like to have access to a rifle with moderate loads.
Great gun, great shirt
This was actually a very helpful video
Much respect Mr. Clark
He sounds like a fudd... But the one thing he failed to mention is that if a revolver does malfunction, you're pretty much screwed. Most issues on semi autos can be fixed with tap-rack-bang and/ or dropping the mag, but if the revolver "jams" up, there isn't anything you can do about it...
@Jacob Roy If it is actually jammed, the cylinder won't rotate, therefore it will no longer fire. The situation you just described is a misfire/hangfire...
@Jacob Roy Do I think it happens often and/or easily... No. However I have had it happen to me personally twice. I also do a little bit of gunsmithing on the side as a hobby/ secondary income and have had a couple brought to me that were jammed.
@Jacob Roy Keep in mind these were all fixable with basic tools, however, if it happened when you really needed it, you would be out of the fight.
@Jacob Roy I do not carry as of right now however if I did it would be a compact striker fired pistol such as a Glock 19.
@Jacob Roy Definitely! Shot placement is far more important than caliber!
I am an old fart. I like all kinds of guns. I shoot all types of guns, not just handguns. I like making my own ammo and that helps me get the best accuracy I can from my guns. I like carrying a Smith and Wesson J-frame 38spl. It works, every time. I have repaired revolvers that "locked up". There are only a few things that make that happen. (1) Bad reloads. Either they were loaded too hot and the load forced the primers to come out or the brass was bulging near the primer end of the case and was not properly resized and this kept the cartridge from seating all the way into the cylinder which cause the gun to bind when the cylinder rotated. (2) Incorrect cleaning and lubrication. Too much oil in the wrong places left there over time turns to sludge and can make a revolver not work. Seen it and fixed it countless times. (3) Gun abuse. The TV cop shows where the guy checks his revolver and flicks the cylinder closed. That will, over time, ruin a revolver. (4) Timing issues. As the hammer goes back and the cylinder rotates, there are little parts inside the revolver that must move exactly right and on time or the gun will not function properly. When this problem comes around it is never quick. It happens over time and eventually the gun fails to work. In rare times, internal springs / parts can break. Fixed a bunch of these. This kind of repair work comes from reasons 1 through 3 I already mentioned. My point is, properly maintained and not abused, a revolver is rock solid. Treated like shit, it will fail at some point. Same for any other gun as well.
If you need to fire the handgun from a coat pocket, then the shrouded hammer revolver can fire five shots vs the one and a jam from the pistol.
If you are firing from a pocket you didnt wait your turn and create or wait for a better opening.
@@Situationdevelopment this statement makes no sense. You won't get a turn unless you make one.
@@scriptkeeper8243 Watch some videos of how things like this goes down. The only time firing from a coat pocket is practical is of you are at knife fighting distance. Other wise wait for a better opening.
@@Situationdevelopment you're essentially talking about the same thing in both of those instances. The pocket revolver could easily be feigned as reaching for a wallet to hand over to a mugger. If a gun is already drawn on you, it's not likely you're going to get a turn. You've already lost the initiative to draw from any traditional location.
@@scriptkeeper8243 Ok Mr expert NRA Spec OPs Space ship door gunner. I'm glad you can pocket snipe with a revolver from at jacket pocket at anything you want past 3 feet.
So my six shot .357mag is too much. I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Hey Gov Cuomo should my rifle be limited to 5rds too?
I'm one of King Cuomo's "subjects" as well. Have you seen the new laws coming down the pike? It's only getting worse here...
Any pistol is low capacity.
When you live or move in Bagdad Illinois .. rifle or combat shotgun.
NY reload is just topping of the cake. Drone, sniper near by all needed
It has been my experience that, Guns fail.
Guns are machines, often simple, I grant you, but machines none the less.
Any gun can and will fail. It is all a matter of time. Might be today, tomorrow, or two hundred years from now... Eventually any and all mechanical things fail.
So my advice?
Carry what you like, and what you shoot best.
DA revolver, Glock, CZ75, Derringer, 1911, Colt SAA or a Flintlock pistol...
If you shoot it, and you like it, carry it. ^.-.^
Agreed! I carry the 642 air weight everywhere everyday 🤩✌️🇺🇸
The interesting thing about all this topic is that - so more professional people are so less they care about high amount of bullets. You see rangers with 1911s or hiking guides who carry 9 mm 15 shots pistols....and they're not affaraid. It seems that with more dealing with the threat the people become more realistic.....
My department issued revolver saved my life in a 1974 gunfight w/armed robbery suspects so in retirement the EDC is a light J Frame revolver.
Excellent video! Great information and I agree fully.
I don’t agree on his 5 shot opinion, Bc you don’t know how many people will attack you or how many rounds it will take to stop a threat or threats.
Sure, but the average number of rounds fired in such encounters is between 2 and 4.
But you'd have to leave the basement to find out...
@@ashd5349 lol leave the basement , I would but you mom gives good head
@@Anubis78250 The maximum average speed you're likely to ever travel in the USA is 70mph, cars can still go up to 140mph for those rare occasions you might need the speed and/or power.
The voice of experience. Thank you.
Fantastic video - thank you.
Great information thank you for sharing your insights !!
Imagine if 9 dudes kick your door down and you have a 5shot revolver. I guess you shouldn’t have gone home… oh well
Great video
When he says "jam", i think...what flavor?
Hi John: Thanks for sharing your expertise with us. You did not specify if your North American Arms revolver is 22 LR or 22 Magnum. I live in a very hot/humid area where more than a short sleeve shirt or tee shirt is rarely needed so the AA revolver is very convenient. However it's only chambered in 22 LR or 22 Mag. The 22 Mag may not reach its full potential in such a short barrel so I'm interested in knowing which one you carry.
There's a video on TH-cam of a guy using the NAA mag on a large hog. It took the hog out with one shot.
It’s an lr. It’s easy to tell by the frame and the way the holster clip is shaped.
Neither of them reach their full potential in a short barrel. The .22 mag is definitely more powerful from a 1” barrel. I carry the lr as the gun is smaller and I don’t own any .22 mag guns.
His reasoning of "shouldn't have been there" is not practical or relevant. If you're in a bad situation a lecture won't save you like additional rounds will
Love it, I carry a ruger lcr.
Very good thanks 😊
I disagree with that whole thing about "if you need more than 5 shots you shouldn't have gone there". If you know you will need a gun, you should NEVER go there.
The point of carrying a gun is to have it in an unexpected situation, it is not to put yourself in that situation.
Good ole Baltimore it’s so hard getting your ccw here in Maryland
As someone who carried a revolver and almost had to use one when faced by 3 would be bad guys...my first thought after was, I FELT UNDER GUNNED. since then, Glock 19 or Glock 20 for me. (depending on clothes, + extra mag). 16 chances or 5 chances ? Your choice.
What were these "bad guys" doing?
I choose a revolver over anything
The 638 while being the ugliest j frame is the most practical of the j frames
Excellent-I to prefer the "hump back" as I call them.
Thank you.
NAA 22 mag Revolver is clipped in My Front Pocket All the Time! My Other Two EDC, I Swap Out With These Two, A Taurus Public Defender Poly Revolver Loaded With 5 Federal 0OO Buckshot and a Glock 17 Gen 3! NAA 22 Mag Revolver All The Time and One of the Other Two Sometimes!!!
I like the revolver he carrys but I will stick to my Glock 19 I do how ever have a s&w 642
Revolvers are great. Don't kid yourself about some magical superior reliability. the only reason revolvers have an appearance of better reliability is because people don't shoot them as much. The more you fire a gun = larger sample size = greater chance you will have noticeable failure. When a modern pistol stops you just clear and reload it, when a revolver stops it's often out of the fight. They're man made tools.
Well said
I love my s&w 649 anyone try the hogue fancy hardwood grips on one I wanna know how wide they are
Check out vz grips. I have them on mine
I got a 649, love that gun.
Totally agree.
As a former police officer for 15 years (I went to the dark side and am currently a Fire Chief lol) I agree with you about carrying 5 rounds. If you are not in the field where that is your job full time, 1- 5 shot revolver should be all you will need for personal protection. I always carried a speed strip along with my snubby off duty and still do, but that is personal preference. Good video!
@Baldspot Civilian self defense is a different mission. We do not need to stop/apprehend a perp at distance. In the LE situation the bad guy is motivated as he knows that he can not just flee as they will follow. If we get the attacker to flee we have essentially succeeded and they know this. We need to incapacitate or discourage a close range threat where LE needs to apprehend at various ranges.
@@mkshffr4936 Then what say you to active shooter scenarios? Shooter with a long gun and perhaps even plates? Walks in while you’re in a movie theater, or church etc? Still want to bet those 5 shots of 38 +p oughta be enough? I get it that those type of scenarios are exceedingly rare, but so is any scenario where we as citizens, have to draw our firearms in defense. We train for the worst case, so why would a person want to intentionally limit their capacity to defend themselves with the mindset of “if you need more than 5 shots, you shouldn’t be there”. I don’t mean this to come off snarky, but it’s the same argument anti gunners make about ARs.
@@Cdubp01 You bring up some interesting points. As a preface let me point out that I didn't use the "you shouldn't be there" argument so let's set that aside.
As to a rifleman with body armor I wouldn't want to go up against that with any handgun (especially by myself). There will always be some scenario where one is outgunned. It is always a case of individual risk analysis.
My point in setting forth the mission difference was that the particular mission of LE and military puts a greater emphasis on capacity and to some extent power than the civilian case. Even in the active shooter scenario my mission would be to break contact as soon as possible where the LE would need to go in and neutralize the threat. Of course if the perp is wearing plates his Glock isn't going to cut it either.
You say you don't know why one would intentionally limit their capacity. I think you are missing the point here. Revolver users do not intentionally limit capacity. Any limitation is a side effect of other priorities. So while I have carried a 5 shot my next carry revolver will be of higher capacity. 6 shots of center fire are quite doable in pocket revolvers and up to 8 in larger but still concealable frames.
However for my circumstances the advantages of the revolver especially for use at contact ranges (much more likely than engaging a sniper in my case) are more compelling. Ideally I would love to have a high'ish capacity auto as a backup but not only does one need the money but as a married man I can't just set spending priorities all by myself.
@@mkshffr4936 Yes, no-I didn’t mean to imply you said that, the man in the video did in reference to not needing more than 5 shots. I’m sorry I implicated you in that point.
I agree, going head to head with someone so disparagingly equipped is not the ideal scenario. There are few examples in which I would “choose” not to break contact such as yourself. But as we know-we don’t set the time and place, so that “choice” isn’t always ours. Some encounters are so egregious that breaking contact would be a moral hardship, ie school shootings.
A Glock more than likely will not cut it, but I would argue it offers more opportunity. At the very least, the more time a shooter is involved engaging a Good Samaritan in a gun fight, the more time elapses for potential victims to escape, even if that’s at the demise of said Good Samaritan; I say that’s a win. Now grant you, I’m saying that as a single man with no children, everyone’s priorities are different. I hold no judgement on the choice to flee. I can not say that I would have the intestinal fortitude to shoot it out, never really know until you know.
My comment on choosing to limit yourself is in relation to the choice of a wheel gun compared to auto guns of similar size for carry. I will grant you, contact interference is a solid argument; something I can’t really argue in defense of auto guns aside from the 1911, and I’m not an advocate of carrying that platform.
All in all you make good points, and I appreciate the civility of your reply. We all do better to learn from each others experience and wisdom. Cheers to you and I hope the wifey lets you trade in some brownie points for that auto one day 😉
@@mkshffr4936 I’d be remiss to not say that a sp101 .357 is in my line up. Mostly for woods carry; stainless and built like a brick pooper lol.
My issues is the thought that revolvers doesn’t have issues that totally do..
What cowboy pump action shotgun is that
Kyle White: Winchester Model 1897 pump shotgun. John Browning Design
thank you
You are absolutely correct on range time. There are now millions of new gun owners since Obama was president. Less than 1% of those people have been to a range more than once, if at all.
Yes there are more people taking classes. New gun ranges are being built.
But what about:
Ranges fees, can you afford them?
Is there a range near your home? 30 minute drive or 1 hour drive?
The range you go to is it for hand guns only? Most ranges can't handle rifle caliber weapons. Or a 12 gage shotgun.
Do you have the $$$ for monthly ammo?
You are married with kids. Do you have the time???
Do you live in a city (no range) or the country?
I would love to join SASS 🇺🇸
I see you on lots of my gun channels. Thumbs up you have great taste lol
Just to clarify are you saying people shouldnt carry high capacity firearms or are you saying they are frivolous for most people. Because I disagree with the first and agree with the second. I carry a single stack 9mm most days. How ever if I didnt live in Cali I'd have a double stack 9mm with 15 round capacity and several spares. Keep in mind evil people go to safe places (locations and towns) to pull their crap. Is it more common than a single mugger? No. Does it happen yes. I carry a small amount of first aid on my person and have more in my truck the same goes with firearms.
You lost me when you pulled out the NAA revolver. Carry what your comfortable and proficient with as well as tickles your fancy.
" Five shots should be enough and if it's not you shouldn't go there"...... Well, you are probably right in the 90 percent of the self defense situations those five or six rounds should be enough.... however the problem is the remaining 10 percent of the situations when it happens what shouldn't happen, life has shown us that things that shouldn't happen can and will actually happen and your statement that in that case "you shouldn't go there" well that's not your choice because when you or someone else is attacked you have no choice, you either defend yourself or risk losing your life or be injured for life, I believe that anyone with a reasonable mind if they have a way out without the necessity of a shootout they will choose the safest way to escape an attack but unfortunately sometimes there is no way out and I do believe that you have the right to reduce the risk of losing your life or be injured as much as you can. So I do believe that having more rounds on one go without having to reload is the better option. However I do agree that a revolver has it's advantages (not jaming) as you said, so considering all of that I believe that everyone should decide for themselves regarding their self defense weapon of choice!
Who’s that’s man? He’s amazing, just so right!
although i think something is better than nothing is right, his statement * if you need more than 5 shots you shouldn't of been there in the first place* is absolutely ridiculous. what if your dealing with a mass shooter or someone comes to your home with a gun. i want as much fire power i can have.
Sissy!
So I’ve shouldn’t have gone out in my yard?
Nope.
Good "Common sense" video. You're going to catch some flack over your choice of carry but if it works for you, it WORKS. I carry the Heritage Bar Keep .22 magnum revolver. I converted it from a 6 shot to a 9 shot.
22 mag packs a suprising punch too
Revolvers break too the difference is they break hard
True, but is far less likely than a failure to feed, failure to extract, limp wristing induced failure, double feed, or magazine failure. Far more chances to have a problem occur with a pistol due to moving parts and action design. The only cause for such a catastrophic revolver failure is a bullet that pulled out from the case due to an improper roll crimp on said bullet, stoping the cylinder from rotating.
And yes I shoot them all, am an ex military combat arms soldier, and a certified firearms instructor.
Five guys bust in door at 5am. All with Ars. Hmmmm🤔
I doubt that snubnose 38 is the only gun he has access to at 5am. Odds are he is at home at that time and has a whole gun safe available to him.
Are you a drug dealer,.. or do you have a lot of enemies?
Where do you live?
@@mikeseier4449 Or you're well-off in a crime-infested community, like parts of LA or Miami
One unsung advantage of revolvers is the fact they do not need to eject cases when they're discharged.
If you have to fire a gun lets say, in your car, it would be beneficial not to have a hot piece of brass whizzing into a delicate surface (a touch screen for example).
If you need more than five shots, you shouldn't have gone there in the first place ..... LOL.
But... Sam Spade carried a 1911 in The Maltese Falcon. ;-)
If you have the choice to protect your life with double the capacity and same size frame that a revolver like this gives you, why wouldn't you? Also takes a lot more practice & skill to shoot accurately with a revolver than it does with a semi automatic as well. Had a 637, hated it and when it came time to sell it could not give that gun away. I own 1 revolver now just for leisure shooting, a 686. Love it and fun to shoot, but I personally would never choose a revolver as an EDC over a semi automatic.
A revolver will not go out of battery at contact range.
This is why it stinks being a small guy..
It's really hard to conceal, this guy can't even put a jframe in his pocket without half of it sticking out
Both of those carry options require too many steps. No thanks. Forget cocking the hammer. Let's talk about the fact that the holster is coming out with the firearm.
No it doesn't. The holsters stay put in your pocket, and only the gun comes out. Now returning the gun. It is a good idea to remove the holster first, then slude the gun in before placing it back in your pocket.
Sounds like a fudd
Nah. Real fudds don't even have CCW permits (remember, their guns are just for hunting those wascally wabbits), or if they do, they almost never carry (unless they are going someplace "dangerous").
This guy is just more conservative in what he carries for personal protection. Personally, I think the NAA mini is a poor choice compared to a pocket 380, but his S&W 638 snubby is a fine choice.
While I prefer semi-autos with a higher capacity, the reality is that his little 5 shot .38 will solve 99.9%+ of the problems he may encounter that require a gun. Remember that in the VAST majority of times when a gun is used to defend one's self merely displaying the weapon to the criminal stops the threat 97-99% of the time. For those instances in which shooting is necessary, the vast majority are solved in 3 rounds or less (see Tom Givens rule of 3: 3 round at 3 yards in 3 seconds). The instances when more than 5 rounds are needed (even when dealing with multiple attackers) are few and far between.
I carry a very compact automatic that would only be a solution if I'd had space. If I was jumped and in a tussle, I think I'd much rather have a compact revolver.
I prefer a belt fed m60
limited to 5 rounds too?
👍👍
Oh your friend wants as many shots as possible?
The issue with that is who will be serving jury duty and who is your District Attorney?
Are they an ally?
The best thing about a revolver or even just those mouse guns are that they are Old School.
That's a perception. Like the color pink. Its not a girl's color. Its a man's color. But thats a story for another day.
Perception can be molded.
What does the soccer mom on the jury think? Probably watched Bonanza a bunch or Little House on the Prairie as a child.
A pink j Frame revolver can have a positive effect in perception.
Unless any type of defense is seen as criminal.
Still a cute pink pistol has its advantages.
Liked everything but the “i cock it if I can”, that’s not a great thing to do in a self defense shooting, it can be used against you in court for one. Id only need to cock the hammer if I was trying to take a long precision shot and in that case I probably shouldn’t be shooting someone that far anyways. I have and carry a S&W 642 and the same NAA revolver. Good stuff! 👍🏻
A rare but not impossible situation during a break in or active shooter situation where intent to do harm is already established.
"If you need more than 5 shots you shouldn't have gone there." AKA Boomer Logic and he probably supports the ban of "assault weapons" and "high capacity magazines".
sad he doesn't open carry a saa
I really want to move out of n.y.c. so so bad! 🖒🖒
Sam spade the best
Wonder if his opinion needs to change them with the race riots for the last couple years
Sitting on your defensive gun sounds stupid ,back pocket carry. him saying 5 rounds is enough is also stupid and the shouldn't have gone there is wrong he most live in a fantasy world. Revolvers do malfunction
I seen so many things wrong here
Like
A snub nose 38 has significantly worse ballistics compare to 9mm; in fact, a snub nose 357 has near identical ballistics to 9mm. Five shots work for one attacker if all five shots fire. 👍
Kinda sounds like a fudd.
Who cares how many shots I am or am not comfortable with carrying?
What an asinine set of advice. I don’t disagree that a J Frame makes a good carry gun. But his reasons why a ridiculously stupid.
All due respect, I disagree.
If you need six shots it’s a malfunction
What a fudd. Don't take this advice, people.
Ok boomer....
Fudd alert
This is dumb.
Most boomer take on everything he said (would die in a gunfight while unfolding his gimmick 22lr hun)