The Deluge Video Manual 08 - Audio & Looping
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ค. 2024
- Welcome to another installment of The (unofficial) Deluge Video manual, where I'll be showing you all I know about using the Synthstrom Deluge (firmware version 4.0). In this video, we're going to focus on creating audio tracks, as well as live looping! Lots of fun to be had here. Hope it's useful to someone out there :)
Deluge Looper Control with Zoia - by Synthdawg:
Patch - patchstorage.com/deluge-loope...
Manual - www.synthdawg.com/free-stuff
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Chapters:
00:00 Title
00:12 Intro
01:32 Sampling into kits
06:40 Sample & Audio levels
10:24 Audio input options
14:10 Set tempo by audio
16:12 Metronome options
16:50 Record timing
17:36 Timming audio end
20:06 Trimming audio start
22:02 Recording to arranger
23:17 Overdubbing
26:06 Setting up for looping
27:20 Manual overdubbing
29:11 External controllers
30:25 Continuous overdubbing
32:20 Monitoring setup
35:24 Montioring in arranger
37:53 Final thoughts
38:50 Outro
39:00 Credits - เพลง
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wow-- that hack reversing the audio clip to trim off the beginning is clutch!
Yeah it's super helpful in a pinch :)
Oooh, the audio clip start trimming by reversing the clip (@ 21:18) was fantastic! Thank you.
Helpful video overall.
Glad it helped!
this is so much more useful than other yt's who just basically reads hte manual out loud, i never understood why ppl like those reviews, this is so much more useful.
Thanks for saying that man, I really appreciate the kind words :)
The depth of this thing is pretty amazing.
Sure it's! Still love exploring what this things capable of.
Grooviest intro music around
Thanks man! I had a few different 4 bar loops I wasn't doing anything with, and this one was the one I went with :)
This man doesn't sleep! Great work dude!
Thanks so much! What IS sleep?
Great video! Thanks for the info! Excited for the next video!
Cheers! Thanks for tuning in :)
Fantastic demonstration videos. Thank you so much.
No worries! Thanks for dropping in :)
Absolutely awesome again.
Oh yeah, and the Deluge is as well 😉
Haha, cheers man :)
I love these videos
Thanks heaps dude :)
Awesome video as always. Looking forward to the external instruments tutorial. Thanks!
Thanks so much! We'll be getting into that towards the end of this series, which isn't too far off :) Next up is all the synth engines, and then we should get to it!
This video is awesome thank you!!
Thanks so much!
Indeed, there is something about these audio functions in Deluge, that make them evaporate from my head pretty quickly too. Even though I new probably half of what you showed here, or even less. Thanks again for these videos.
Yeah, it's a bit like that hey. Glad to hear this video's helped though. :) Thanks
@@RSKT_music cleared a lot in my head.
Thank you!
No problem! :)
Just got around to checking this - some killer vids in this series mate! Bonus points for the distant kookaburra at 25:23 (classic australia)
Thanks so much! Haha, bloody outback strikes again XD
Another great Deluge tutorial ! and you know how deluge is pronounced.
Thanks! Lol, since the Deluge is made in New Zealan, I guess the Aussie way of saying it would be about as close as you can get ;)
@@RSKT_music people always say the g with a hard j sound . but i always thought it's pronounced just lark a hard rain storm is called a deluge . irrelevant really . keep the great vids coming
Haha no problem! :)
Just got a Deluge, your vides calm
down my anxiety about it.
Haha glad to hear it! Don't stress though, it all becomes second nature after a while. :)
700 subs good work
Hey thanks so much dude! Means a lot coming from you :)
Thank you for these videos! Did you ever get to making that video on external gear or daw? Seems I can’t find them.
It's still in the works. I filmes a few videos for the work flow guide, but haven't finished it yet. Wound up getting too much work on and moved house, so it's been a bit hectic. Hoping to get back into it soon. Thankyou for your patience.
Great video! I'm eagerly awaiting to get my deluge, website says they are having a 3 week break from selling Quick question though, I noticed that when you are recording using the input microphone and you had the metronome, that it actually was faintly recording that also. Is there a way for it to not record or do you just have to have the count in to get your timing right?
Hope that 3 weeks goes by quickly for you man. On the bright side there'll be some new features anounced in that time!
As for the metronome - You can choose to have a count in or not, so that's optional. Having it continue to play while recording though is something I wouldn't recommend. It does (ever so faintly) pick it up. I would probably recomend using headphones while recording if you're going to do it that way. An alternative is to make your own metronome using a high hat or something that won't cut through the mix, cause the metronome is very loud haha
21:04 thanks for this! is setting the start point of an audio clip not possible with firmware 4 / in 2024?
@@MichaelBryne All good! As of the latest community firmware, you can now shift an audio clip over, changing the start point! One of the best features they've introduced IMO.
can you change the tempo of the overall track (if it's just audio loops) without it time-stretching? as in the slower it gets the lower the pitch. i get if the internal synth is playing they must go out of tune but i'm just wondering
Hmmm, I'm not too sure to be honest with you. I think you'd have to experiment with it a bit. The only way I can think of getting around such a thing would be to resample each audio track, then import them to something like a kit track and turn off time stretching...but even that might not work. Sorry I'm not much more helpful, wish I had an answer for you.
YOU HAVE KIDS??
That's all I took from this. Lol
(Lunar Darkling here, I changed my TH-cam name lol)
Also.. at 18:42.. the lights make a sword ☺️
Hey Lunar! Yup, I've got 2 little ones actually :) Thanks for watching these as well as the art channel vids! Nice find with the sword of sound! haha
@@RSKT_music omy gosh!! I has 6yr 🥰..
Of course! Views help the TH-cam algorithm etc hehe..
The sword thing makes me wonder if you ever tried making random pictures with the lights while also trying to get it to sound good?
@@ghouling1111 oh nice! And no, never tried it, but that sounds like a fun idea :)
Is there a way to preset the length of a sequence you plan to record into so it automatically starts to loop back on itself without having to hit the record button to stop recording? Similar to how the novation circuit works (when you get to the end of the alloted space it starts over). I love that there's no limit on how long you can record, but on the other hand it would be nice to be able to preset a determined length for a sequence you want to record into
Sure! The thing to keep in mind is if you hit record them play, it's going to keep recording until you hit record again. If you hit play and then record, it will loop back to the start after the length you have set.
If you want to do this with audio clips (as in having a fixed length audio clip for a looper track or something), make an audio clip in the arranger view for however long you want, then copy the clip into song view. Super helpful when making loops live :)
Great video, thanks. I would love to see how you set up a foot switch to control live looping and live overdubbing. Tried soo many different settings but can’t seem to set it up in a useful way. I have the synthstrom foot switch the sell on their website which has 4 switches.
Man, I've always wanted to get a hold of their footswitch. I'll see if I can include something like that in an upcoming video at some point. Thanks for tuning in :)
This would be very much appreciated! I emailed the same company that did the deluges foot pedal (actition) and they sold me one with deluges firmware, you could try that.
Cheers! I'll keep that in mind :)
@@RSKT_music Yes the holy grail is to not touch the Deli. but just use the foot switch to instigate recording (and stopping) live guitar/ bass looping, and also overdubbing, by my ickle brain can't work it out - a short video would be fab.
Useful info for Deluge users is any midi device/ keyboard that sends a midi note can be used to control the Deli looping commands (under settings\command\[then learn the command]).
I've had the deluge since July 2017 and thought I knew it all pretty well...but there lots of nuggets of information in your videos I've picked up, great work, thanks!
@@simonmorton3746 ah that's awesome to hear man. I'll definitely add a video to my list that talks about looping workflows, and I'll release it with The Deluge Workflow Guide that I'm planning to make once this series is finished. Cheers for the ideas! :)
One thing that I might also add is that even though you can't 'technically' make audio tracks a fixed length before recording, there is actually a way to do it. Just record a blank audio clip into the arranger view (however many bars you want), then copy that clip back into song view by holding down on the clip and pressing 'song.' Then, if you follow along with the overdubbing steps in this video, you basically have created some blank, fixed length, tracks to work with. It's super useful to do it this way, as it means you can hit record and then have time to jump back to playing your instrument. But then you don't have to worry about stopping the clip at all (which can be tricky in some cases, depending on what you're playing).
All of this will be covered in a future video, but I thought I'd mention it now as it might prove useful to you :)
Interesting: when I tried the overdub (layering) method (rec+pad under the existing track) the new audio track ends up linked with the previous one and it stops the playback of the previous layer. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
You'll need to hit record and switch the colour of the audio track by pressing the section button (it should switch between red and purple). I'm not with my Deluge rn, so I can't remember which ones which, but a quick experiment should get you there. Basically though, you can choose if you want it to overdub or stop playback :)
@@szupelak all good man! Glad you were able to get it sorted :)
Thanks for the help! Do you know of any way to have a loop fade out rather than just stop?
To put it some context, I am using a midi foot controller to loop while I play Sitar/Esraj, so my hands are a bit full ;)
Hmm, that's a good question and I've not tried myself. I guess one thing I'd try is to make sure the release of the track is up all the way, but to be honest I'm not even sure if that would work. I get your hands might be too full for this, but my only other thought is to map the volume of the track to an external midi controller and quick do it that way. Lol, maybe pop in on the floor and use your toes haha. Sorry I'm not much more help.
@@RSKT_music Thanks for the reply either way. I can map the volume to an expression pedal, I was just hoping there was some way to get it to fade out.
Cheers man!
Part of the "problem" is that I am playing bass lines with my feet already with a Roland PK-5A set of bass pedals and using a Nektar Pacer to control all the loop functions. So my feet are also a bit busy.
I'll figure something out...
@@davidlynch4338 haha wow dude, that sounds like a super fun but tricky workflow. Either way, hope you get it sorted man :)
hello mr RSKT,
is there anyway humanly possible that I could bother you for ten minutes of your time on a phone call or facetime in regards to sycning audio files [actual stems from DAW] I've been playing live (dj'ing with a few deluges and additional synths) I can't figure out to save my life what I need to do to sync stems to the internal clock
Hey there! So, I haven't really experimented with loading stems on the Deluge, so I don't know how much I'd be able to help. However, I'll give it a go:
One thing I noticed is years ago Red Means Recording did a lo-fi live set with the Deluge, and I noticed he loaded all of his stems onto a kit track instead of loading them in as Audio Tracks. In another video he discussed a slight difference between the clock in Ableton and the clock on the Deluge.
So while he didn't explicitly explain it, I get the feeling that he takes a song at (let's say) 120bpm > exports the stems from Ableton > loads each stem onto its own kit track > and then sets the sample mode to "stretch" > keeps the Deluge tempo at 120bpm. In theory, there shouldn't be any noticeable time stretching artifacts, and it should negate any tempo discrepancies when playing back your stems.
At the end of the day, loading your stems in as kit tracks adds some extra benefits, as you can put all of your drums into a single track that way, and have access to LFO's and other things. Either way, I hope this helps in some way. Let me know how you go with it :)
this is blowing me away, it shows waveforms wtff!!!!! anyway, would you say deluge is good for a writing tool vs something like rc-505? i make soft rock music, and my songs have different parts. i work in IT and my screen is killing my productivity. i want to be able to hit record, record my guitar, go back and loop piano, synths, bring those parts in and out. repeat that for other song sections, and then arrange. is that possible? would you say the deluge or akai force is more like that? the nice thing about deluge is the lack of a screen which i find extremely enticing.
The Deluge would be perfect for what you are trying to do! It's worth noting, however, that the Deluge has limited inputs, so you may wany to consider a small external mixer to plug all of your gear into, and then run that into the Deluge. Otherwise, you might just have to plug things in as you need them. I've heard mixed feels about the Akai Force, you either love it or hate it (but then again, some say that about the Deluge too). The rc-505 looks fantastic and I think it's considered one of the best loopers for a reason. That said, the Deluge is going to give you so much more with synth engines, live effects (including sidechain), and a built in drum sequencer. Ultimately, it's going to be up to you. Of course I'm going to recommend the Deluge, I just love it so much. To top it all of, I think you'll be hard pressed to find a better arranger on any other piece of gear right now.
these videos are really great, we learn great tips, it's clear and well explained. But please stop using a shaker for sample audio, it's too low sound. When the metronome is activated it is no longer audible. Thanks again for these informative videos.
Hey, thanks for the feedback! Don't worry I don't think the shaker will be making a return any time soon, my kids took it back off me haha
children are better than madam 😲😁😉
You know a lot but you teach and speak very fast to the people from countries not native in english, is very difficult to understand all and they don´t know so much like you. Deluge is expensive and is not so easy to operate it, would be nice you think about that too, please ok, thank you.
Hi - I'm sorry if my speaking comes across too fast. I try my best to stay at a reasonable pace when walking through these videos, otherwise they would go on too long. When I upload the videos, I select that the language of them is in English. This helps TH-cam decide who to recommend the video to and to provide automatically generated subtitles. You could try selecting the settings for the video and changing the playback speed if you need it to be slower.
I do agree with something you said though. The Deluge IS expensive, and it now costs more than double what I paid for it a couple of years ago. That said, you'd be hard pressed to find another machine that packs as many features into it. The OP1-Field costs more than a Deluge and still can't do half of what the Deluge can. So I'd say it's worth it.
I don't think it's that difficult to operate it though. It's no different to learning how to use Ableton. That said, I see a lot of people complaining about the learning curve. So that's why I made this video series, to help people get up and running quickly.
Anyway, you're entitled to your opinion. I'm sorry if my videos are not up to your standard. There are other channels on TH-cam that focus on the Deluge that may be more up your alley. At the end of the day, I made this series for free and to help people. I hope you were able to at least get something out of it.
@@RSKT_music Thanks, yes your video is helping me a lot. Deluge for me is a machine so revolutionary than Minimoog, Arp 2600, Mellotron...