I watch a lot of wing chun videos on TH-cam being a practitioner myself for 30 years. I really liked this video as it was so well explained and very close to how I learned it
You’re so welcome. I made these videos ages ago during the pandemic when people couldn’t train at their own clubs. Surprised anyone is still watching them!😂
For those of you watching this repetitively, the actual instructions start at 1:40 if you want to move past the intro. Good luck with your training!🙏☯️
At the "Return to center" After the start of the second section, your forearm is facing outward exposing the inner arm/wrist. Is there a reason for that? In Silat, knife awareness is important. Exposing your wrist there seems not knife-safe. Can you discuss that?
That's an interesting question. All of the "return to centre" moves presuppose that having gone off centre the attacking energy has returned to the centre. There are countless movements in Wing Chun that utilize both the inside and outside of the arm. What dictates the one you're referring to is the spiral energy "snap" that you're supposed to get when changing from the uppercut to the interception (which is what the move you're referring to is). I can't speak to Silat since I have no knowledge of it unfortunately. Most of the hand techniques in Wing Chun that I can think of you would not use vs a blade though, we have a whole different way of moving for that which is expressed in the Baat Cham Dao. Not sure that answers your question, but I tried. All the best to you in your training, Devin
So glad it was helpful to you. That’s our job as Kung Fu brothers and sisters, to help each other out. I’m always struggling with things and trying to figure them out as well! The thing that helped me understand this form the most was that actually it is all about how to move in Wing Chun. It is it’s own animal. The fluid rotation and subtle rising and sinking with each step and movement are what makes it come together. Sometimes instead of worrying about each movement it’s easier to just try to flow through the whole form repeatedly, and refine it that way. In that way my other short video on doing the form at speed is maybe more useful to watch if you already know the sequence. Good luck in your training!☯️
@@blackmambawingchun this is one of the best instructional videos I've seen, very clear and precise. I'm actually waiting for spinal surgery but i am managing to do form work and this video has helped massively.
If you watch the last kick in the Chum Kiu, it’s actually a Bong Gerk (to defend against a kick to the stomach, you see how it crosses the centreline, followed by a counter kick while your opponent is off balance, so there are two techniques happening in that one kick. Bong Gerk and Counter. Hope that makes sense to you!
@@blackmambawingchun Thanks for the answer! Well, I've been researching this topic for a long time, because there are a lot of videos where the kick doesn't look like Bong gerk at all. . But okay. I watched Wong Shun Leung's video and finally actually saw Bong gerk!.
Thank you! I’m interested in all the differences I’ve seen in this form in different lineages. So far I feel like they all carry the same focus on power generation through rotation and stepping, and the differences are in individual movements. Glad you enjoyed the video! 🙏☯️
Wonderful set, beautiful setting! This set always left me cold until seeing your breakdown. Any chance of posting a step by step of Biu Jee? With thanks, Sanshangong.
Simon thanks so much for your kind words. Even after so many years practicing Wing Chun I still see myself as a beginner so glad my enthusiasm is helping others enjoy the art. I thought about doing a Biu Jee step by step. I really did these videos because during lockdown they were for my students stuck at home. If you have someone to work with you in the Biu Jee that’s much better than a video, because someone can watch and correct as you go along. I realized when I got back to in person that many of my students were copying what I was showing them in the videos but practicing them incorrectly without knowing it, and that can slow progress. All the best to you and your training though!☯️
@@blackmambawingchun Good afternoon, Thank you very much for your immediate response. I have no-one to work with but I have been studying CMA for 50 years this year and this past twelve-month i have been teaching myself Wingtsunkuen. Long story! If you could produce a Biujee step-by-step that would be amazing and very much appreciated. If not then I understand. Best wishes, Simon.
@@simonlailey428 good for you! Hmm, I will see what I can do. In the meantime if you are interested you can always send me a clip of you doing the form if you are looking for pointers, it's hard learning on your own. You can find me on Messenger/Facebook as Devin Fan
I'm not 100% certain what you mean, but it can be confusing watching a slowed down step by step. Here is a video of me doing the full form at normal speed which my clarify things for you: th-cam.com/video/YXaEznafapI/w-d-xo.html
I originally made these videos during COVID when everything was shut down so that my students had something to practice from, so I haven’t made any in a long time. The most useful way would be to show the applications (of which there are many) for each section. I’ll try!
I found practicing forms facing (but not in contact with) Muk Yan Jong (wooden dummy) helped in many ways improve my practice & understanding of Wing Chun Form movements.
I really like this form, but have been skiddish about learning others from the first one, but this is a great breakdown, so I think I’ll give it a shot.
Which system are you learning? Leung Ting or Wong Shun Leung? My other question is that there is a punch from the bottom up, but why is there no side, hook punch in the form exercises? In principle, all kinds of strikes are included in the Wing Tschun system, but I don't understand why there is no hook strike???
My lineage is Wang Kiu. There is something very similar to what I would call a shovel hook in the last striking section of the Biu Jee, before the Sam Bai Fat. It was originally apparently a Ginger Fist but was modified by Yip Man into a more practical shovel hook. At least that’s my understanding. More importantly though, the forms are designed to unlock principles, not so much specific techniques. The whole purpose of Chum Kiu is rotational power development and coordinating upper body movement s with stepping. Those two principles. You would never do a double Lan Sau the way it’s demonstrated in the form but if you just separate the arms, that’s the hook in wing chun, which is done using the whole body rotating at once. I’m busy packing and moving or I could tell a longer story, but I did make a video about what the forms were for. All the best in your training!
Good morning. I will grant you it’s a strange technique. If you look at my Chum Kiu compared to Wong Shun Leung’s or Ip Man’s side by side you will see my double low Bong Sau is actually a little higher. I have never actually used a low Bong Sau in the ring or in any live application. The concept is that you’re defending an overwhelming low level force and you’re stepping and using this motion to deflect to the blindside. This makes sense in theory but in practice I’d rather drop my other arm and step using Gan Sau, it’s more effective for me in that scenario. If you’re looking for Bong Sau advice from me, don’t use it against a non Wing Chun opponent. It blocks vertical punches very well but fares very poorly vs boxing or mma style punches, you will get hit. All the best in your training!☯️
Hi Ray, yes as shown in the form it’s a circling hand (Huen Sau) leading to a grabbing hand (Lap Sau). I have separate videos for each if you’re interested: th-cam.com/video/qe-dwqy0aI8/w-d-xo.html
Jestem osobą z niepełnosprwanościami ale kocham ten styl tu moim mieście nie ma tego stylu wiem że prawdziwe ograniczenia są tylko w głowie od siebie samych zależy czy pokonamy samych siebie i bycie lepszym o siebie samych
It would be nice if you explained the purpose/function of each one of those techniques. Some of your movements seem to be useless, as far as combat is concerned.
Ray I agree with you, the movements appear to have no combat applications on the surface. Actually the forms are foundational. I go fairly in depth into specific techniques in other videos, this one was meant for people who are literally just trying to remember the order of the movements, I didn’t want to over complicate it. All that being said, you really can’t learn Wing Chun from watching videos. I meant these to be a temporary help to people training on their own during the pandemic.
@@blackmambawingchun Thank you. And yes, I am, and have been, interested in Wing Chun/JKD for many years. You might say, I've had a resurgence. It has been a good number of years that I had abandoned the practice---but I have, in this last year, decided to 'Re-acquaint' myself with these self-defense techniques. I only wish there was a School nearby. Thanx for your response.
It’s too bad there’s no school nearby, although some of them are not great anyway. If you’re interested in learning online, I’d encourage you to check out Adam Chan, he is more knowledgeable than me and offers online courses in Wing Chun (no affiliation with me). Finally though, if you don’t mind some advice, I wouldn’t get too hung up on styles if it’s self defence and not some cultural or historical interest you’re after. This is what’s important, in order: structure, movement, speed, power, timing. You can work on those using any number of techniques or styles. The most important thing is to find what actually works for you and what techniques play to your personal strengths. Then you need a heavy bag and someone to train and spar with. That’s my two cents after years of going down lots of different rabbit holes, hopefully it helps.
@@blackmambawingchun I agree---the quality of some schools is questionable, to say the least! Adam Chan---Yes, I've watched a Number of his videos, as well as Dan Lok, and Master Wong. And again, you are correct; I've had 30-plus years of experience with various "Styles," including good ol' American boxing. But I really enjoy the fundamental principles of Wing Chun, and I seem to have a "Knack" for it. And yes, I know HOW to train---Not just punching and kicking, but 'Working' the 'Supportive,' and smaller muscle groups that inhance Speed, Power, and Flexibility---The "Stabalizer" muscles. Hey, I appreciate your input. I don't do this so much as to increase my fighting skills...I simply enjoy the all-around fitness of it; but I am able to Spar a bit here and there---it keeps your reflexes sharp! GOD bless. Stay healthy.
I watch a lot of wing chun videos on TH-cam being a practitioner myself for 30 years. I really liked this video as it was so well explained and very close to how I learned it
Thanks Ronan, I’m glad you enjoyed it! 🙏
That is the best explained version I've seen, thank you so much !
You’re so welcome. I made these videos ages ago during the pandemic when people couldn’t train at their own clubs. Surprised anyone is still watching them!😂
For those of you watching this repetitively, the actual instructions start at 1:40 if you want to move past the intro. Good luck with your training!🙏☯️
Thanks Kungfu Brother! Nicely demonstrated and useful for those of us who have not been in class for a while. Be strong!
good form, i was trying to remember it from years ago and this helped
Thanks, I’m glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much. This was a very good demonstration.
My pleasure Sean and thanks for saying so. Good luck with your training!
This was great I practice this n siu lim tao everyday 🙏🏾
At the "Return to center" After the start of the second section, your forearm is facing outward exposing the inner arm/wrist. Is there a reason for that? In Silat, knife awareness is important. Exposing your wrist there seems not knife-safe.
Can you discuss that?
That's an interesting question. All of the "return to centre" moves presuppose that having gone off centre the attacking energy has returned to the centre. There are countless movements in Wing Chun that utilize both the inside and outside of the arm. What dictates the one you're referring to is the spiral energy "snap" that you're supposed to get when changing from the uppercut to the interception (which is what the move you're referring to is). I can't speak to Silat since I have no knowledge of it unfortunately. Most of the hand techniques in Wing Chun that I can think of you would not use vs a blade though, we have a whole different way of moving for that which is expressed in the Baat Cham Dao. Not sure that answers your question, but I tried. All the best to you in your training, Devin
Thank you for this video, I've been struggling to put chum kui together and you made it look easy.
So glad it was helpful to you. That’s our job as Kung Fu brothers and sisters, to help each other out. I’m always struggling with things and trying to figure them out as well! The thing that helped me understand this form the most was that actually it is all about how to move in Wing Chun. It is it’s own animal. The fluid rotation and subtle rising and sinking with each step and movement are what makes it come together. Sometimes instead of worrying about each movement it’s easier to just try to flow through the whole form repeatedly, and refine it that way. In that way my other short video on doing the form at speed is maybe more useful to watch if you already know the sequence. Good luck in your training!☯️
@@blackmambawingchun this is one of the best instructional videos I've seen, very clear and precise. I'm actually waiting for spinal surgery but i am managing to do form work and this video has helped massively.
Please help me!! Bong gerk exists in wing tshun techniques, but I don't see it anywhere in any form practice.
If you watch the last kick in the Chum Kiu, it’s actually a Bong Gerk (to defend against a kick to the stomach, you see how it crosses the centreline, followed by a counter kick while your opponent is off balance, so there are two techniques happening in that one kick. Bong Gerk and Counter. Hope that makes sense to you!
@@blackmambawingchun Thanks for the answer! Well, I've been researching this topic for a long time, because there are a lot of videos where the kick doesn't look like Bong gerk at all. . But okay. I watched Wong Shun Leung's video and finally actually saw Bong gerk!.
Some minor variations from how we are taught in our class.. but great video and easy to follow. Thanks
Thank you! I’m interested in all the differences I’ve seen in this form in different lineages. So far I feel like they all carry the same focus on power generation through rotation and stepping, and the differences are in individual movements. Glad you enjoyed the video! 🙏☯️
Wonderful set, beautiful setting! This set always left me cold until seeing your breakdown. Any chance of posting a step by step of Biu Jee? With thanks, Sanshangong.
Simon thanks so much for your kind words. Even after so many years practicing Wing Chun I still see myself as a beginner so glad my enthusiasm is helping others enjoy the art. I thought about doing a Biu Jee step by step. I really did these videos because during lockdown they were for my students stuck at home. If you have someone to work with you in the Biu Jee that’s much better than a video, because someone can watch and correct as you go along. I realized when I got back to in person that many of my students were copying what I was showing them in the videos but practicing them incorrectly without knowing it, and that can slow progress. All the best to you and your training though!☯️
@@blackmambawingchun Good afternoon, Thank you very much for your immediate response. I have no-one to work with but I have been studying CMA for 50 years this year and this past twelve-month i have been teaching myself Wingtsunkuen. Long story! If you could produce a Biujee step-by-step that would be amazing and very much appreciated. If not then I understand. Best wishes, Simon.
@@simonlailey428 good for you! Hmm, I will see what I can do. In the meantime if you are interested you can always send me a clip of you doing the form if you are looking for pointers, it's hard learning on your own. You can find me on Messenger/Facebook as Devin Fan
Hello Devin, I have sent you a message on Messenger. With thanks, Simon.
Did you do it backwards do we can copy on the same side, or do we need to flip the movements?
I'm not 100% certain what you mean, but it can be confusing watching a slowed down step by step. Here is a video of me doing the full form at normal speed which my clarify things for you:
th-cam.com/video/YXaEznafapI/w-d-xo.html
Thanks, I really love the way you taught. 🙂
I actually wish to learn from you.
Thank you so much for saying so. I’m wishing you all the best in your training, and in finding a club that you like near you! 🙏
I would appreciate a video explaining how to use the movements of this form.
I originally made these videos during COVID when everything was shut down so that my students had something to practice from, so I haven’t made any in a long time. The most useful way would be to show the applications (of which there are many) for each section. I’ll try!
Thank you uk hi
I found practicing forms facing (but not in contact with) Muk Yan Jong (wooden dummy) helped in many ways improve my practice & understanding of Wing Chun Form movements.
That’s an interesting concept, I will try it!
using this to learn this form ! great explanations!
Thanks for the kind words, I’m
glad you’re finding it useful. It’s a wonderful form full of great concepts. Good luck in your training!
I really like this form, but have been skiddish about learning others from the first one, but this is a great breakdown, so I think I’ll give it a shot.
Many thanks and good luck in your training!🙏
@@blackmambawingchun - HEY, I sent you an email!!!
I didn’t receive it. My email address is Devin.fan@yahoo.ca
Sorry - it went to my junk mail! I received it.
Which system are you learning? Leung Ting or Wong Shun Leung? My other question is that there is a punch from the bottom up, but why is there no side, hook punch in the form exercises? In principle, all kinds of strikes are included in the Wing Tschun system, but I don't understand why there is no hook strike???
My lineage is Wang Kiu. There is something very similar to what I would call a shovel hook in the last striking section of the Biu Jee, before the Sam Bai Fat. It was originally apparently a Ginger Fist but was modified by Yip Man into a more practical shovel hook. At least that’s my understanding. More importantly though, the forms are designed to unlock principles, not so much specific techniques. The whole purpose of Chum Kiu is rotational power development and coordinating upper body movement s with stepping. Those two principles. You would never do a double Lan Sau the way it’s demonstrated in the form but if you just separate the arms, that’s the hook in wing chun, which is done using the whole body rotating at once. I’m busy packing and moving or I could tell a longer story, but I did make a video about what the forms were for. All the best in your training!
Your form is good. Your grasp and understanding of the first form must be great. Good video and explanation 🙏👍🏻👍🏻
Many thanks. Actually after all these years I’m still learning! 🙏
@@blackmambawingchun same here brother 👍🏻
This awesome step by step thank you
Many thanks I’m glad it’s useful!
4:24 now I did just wake up but isn't that double gan sau however you spell it, way to low for a bong sau
Good morning. I will grant you it’s a strange technique. If you look at my Chum Kiu compared to Wong Shun Leung’s or Ip Man’s side by side you will see my double low Bong Sau is actually a little higher. I have never actually used a low Bong Sau in the ring or in any live application. The concept is that you’re defending an overwhelming low level force and you’re stepping and using this motion to deflect to the blindside. This makes sense in theory but in practice I’d rather drop my other arm and step using Gan Sau, it’s more effective for me in that scenario. If you’re looking for Bong Sau advice from me, don’t use it against a non Wing Chun opponent. It blocks vertical punches very well but fares very poorly vs boxing or mma style punches, you will get hit. All the best in your training!☯️
That, 'Twisting,' and circular motion of the wrist and fingers; is that
a 'grabbing' technique---or something else?
Hi Ray, yes as shown in the form it’s a circling hand (Huen Sau) leading to a grabbing hand (Lap Sau). I have separate videos for each if you’re interested: th-cam.com/video/qe-dwqy0aI8/w-d-xo.html
Thanks you very much
For those of you looking for other of my Wing Chun lessons:
th-cam.com/play/PLzXnaVTVJGwOAB7iPGJTjUUGZ34nNtRuc.html
Jestem osobą z niepełnosprwanościami ale kocham ten styl tu moim mieście nie ma tego stylu wiem że prawdziwe ograniczenia są tylko w głowie od siebie samych zależy czy pokonamy samych siebie i bycie lepszym o siebie samych
It would be nice if you explained the purpose/function of each
one of those techniques. Some of your movements seem to be
useless, as far as combat is concerned.
Ray I agree with you, the movements appear to have no combat applications on the surface. Actually the forms are foundational. I go fairly in depth into specific techniques in other videos, this one was meant for people who are literally just trying to remember the order of the movements, I didn’t want to over complicate it. All that being said, you really can’t learn Wing Chun from watching videos. I meant these to be a temporary help to people training on their own during the pandemic.
@@blackmambawingchun Thank you. And yes, I am, and have
been, interested in Wing Chun/JKD for many years. You might say,
I've had a resurgence. It has been a good number of years that I
had abandoned the practice---but I have, in this last year, decided
to 'Re-acquaint' myself with these self-defense techniques.
I only wish there was a School nearby.
Thanx for your response.
It’s too bad there’s no school nearby, although some of them are not great anyway. If you’re interested in learning online, I’d encourage you to check out Adam Chan, he is more knowledgeable than me and offers online courses in Wing Chun (no affiliation with me). Finally though, if you don’t mind some advice, I wouldn’t get too hung up on styles if it’s self defence and not some cultural or historical interest you’re after. This is what’s important, in order: structure, movement, speed, power, timing. You can work on those using any number of techniques or styles. The most important thing is to find what actually works for you and what techniques play to your personal strengths. Then you need a heavy bag and someone to train and spar with. That’s my two cents after years of going down lots of different rabbit holes, hopefully it helps.
@@blackmambawingchun I agree---the quality of some schools
is questionable, to say the least! Adam Chan---Yes, I've watched a
Number of his videos, as well as Dan Lok, and Master Wong.
And again, you are correct; I've had 30-plus years of experience
with various "Styles," including good ol' American boxing.
But I really enjoy the fundamental principles of Wing Chun, and
I seem to have a "Knack" for it.
And yes, I know HOW to train---Not just punching and kicking,
but 'Working' the 'Supportive,' and smaller muscle groups that
inhance Speed, Power, and Flexibility---The "Stabalizer" muscles.
Hey, I appreciate your input. I don't do this so much as to increase
my fighting skills...I simply enjoy the all-around fitness of it; but I
am able to Spar a bit here and there---it keeps your reflexes sharp!
GOD bless.
Stay healthy.
Mmmmaaaaaa