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- An Analysis and Review of the Cartier Santos. The subject looks at the development of the watch when it was gifted to Alberto-Santos Dumont, how it then developed over the years and arrived to the point in time where it is now. The aim is to show how even after 100 years, the watch still creatively innovates and is all the more impressive because of it.
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Footnote: The debate surrounding the World's First Wristwatch is still ongoing. Patek Phillipe claims that they invented the first wristwatch in 1868, but it seems that the general consensus is that the first recorded wristwatch originated in the early 20th Century. Some believe that wrist watches were used during the Boer War and some believe that the wearing history goes back even further. Fascinating nonetheless.
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I would also say that Alberto Santos is also the inventor of airplane -- > th-cam.com/video/YxAo6SV6UR8/w-d-xo.html
A Great respect for Cartier. The santos is one of the most recognised watches. Sorry Submariner , Santos came first.
Came first in terms of aircraft as well, however the Americans push that Whatever Brothers story who made an aircraft that could only be flown by a sling shot and wouldn't fly it in front of the Parisian committee.
Santos Dumont not only took off the ground independently but also flew for a much longer distance than that that was expected.
He was a genius like no other. However due to his possible homosexual orientation and his major depression which led him to suicide plus, due to being from south America people "tend" to forget...
One genius begets another, had there been no Socrates there would not have been kierkegaard, had there not been Santos Dumont there would not have been Einstein...and so on and so forth.
Rolex is the best watch ever and will ever be I love submariner.
@@eyuelyiferu264 not by a long shot
@@tanboi1105 no.
@@eyuelyiferu264 the submariner is so boring, it has nothing special about it.
Cartier has simply created some of the greatest watch designs in history - Santos, Louis Tank, Tank Americaine, Balon Bleu, Roadster, Pasha, Tonneau. Effortless elegance & timeless beauty.
Funny how the new Santos constantly makes me wonder if it looks old or actually very modern!
Haha! And I feel the same way. The more I look into it, the more it feels like the watch is becoming modern again with its appearance! The new Skeleton Noctambule looks so futuristic... Thank you for the comment, Hrabanus!
Because the 1920s Art Deco style is so old that it's officially cool again.
A Santos on bracelet with dark blue dial I think is stunning and on par with the Royal Oak and Nautilus.
Para Bellum i am torn between cartier santos WSSA0013 VS IWC Portuguese 371491. What is your opinion between the two?
THAT, my watch nerd friend, was an absolutely excellently researched and delivered history of one of the world's most iconic timepieces ever created! That through decades and generations it is still as iconic and immediately recognizable is a true testament to a Maison which has the deepest grasp of what their own ethos and legacy dictates, which when coupled with their superior Haut Joallerie execution, design aesthetic and now in-house Manufacture Calibre movements, makes these pieces all the more important, timelessly elegant and just plain beautiful. Thank you! -ty
I love Cartier! Whereas design often appears to be an afterthought with many other brands, Cartier manage to continually come up with original designs up to this very day. The new Santos is an absolute stunner and, in my personal world, it offers a very compelling alternative to the other luxury stainless steel watches out there.
I always remember seeing the Santos as a kid in the mid to late ‘80s and remember it having a real impact on me as a true luxury product. The two tone model was the one that I saw the most and I had never seen steel and gold mixed in such a way on a watch before.
The 35mm mid size quartz was the most common and the gold bezel was blingy yet very trendy. Also, it was the first time I had seen a true integrated bracelet and was really into the industrial look of the screws in it. I loved it so much that I even remember buying a counterfeit as a kid on holiday once in Morocco.
I didn’t like the newer Santos 100 to start off with but, have really warmed to it recently and think that particular model looks better on the strap than on a bracelet.
The addition of a large 39mm Santos on a bracelet with a steel bezel looks great to me. The new movement doesn’t look too bad but, if only Le Coultre were still making the movements, ahhh, I’d add one to the collection straight away.
As for the skeletonised version, I think that you may have uncovered the first skeletonised watch that I rather appreciate. The way that the luminous numerals act as the skeleton actually looks quite nice.
Yet another great video my friend! Top stuff! ✊
@@neoLover23 Thomas is the OG of the TH-cam watch community... And his Collection is just as Boss by the way ;)
Excellent comment, brother. Thank you! I agree that the LeCoultre movements were so charming with these pieces. More and more I'm drawn to the Galbee... the proportions and the way that bracelet pairs with the smaller case looks gorgeous. I hope this video has helped a few appreciate how the Santos has managed to reinvent itself over the Century. Though I don't "love" the skeleton, the way that a brand can just communicate its presence with a few hallmarks is so damn impressive. Design really can be eye-opening ;)
Neo I completely agree. Thomas is one of the best punters, and I am honored to consider you both as friends. 👊
Thomas Burnett congratulations on stating so eloquently how this design has affected you. I only wish that I had your way with words. Thank you for sharing your thoughts, for being one of the shining star punters, and for being a great friend. 👊
Neo my friend, thank you very much. I really appreciate the comments from such a stand up member of the community as yourself. ✊
You’re a gifted storyteller my man... never been interested in this watch... until now!
It is amazing just how investigating into all of these different pieces has also shaped my appreciation and understanding of them too! It's almost addicting... Thank you for the comment Arik. It's such a pleasure making these videos
Great video. I love the tank and Santos. And I'm with you on this: the smaller sizes command more charm.
Gorgeous pieces and I need to find a Galbee to try on... The size and scale of the pieces look unreal! Thank you for the comment, Trev
Another wonderful video. For me, the Santos is a must have for any serious collector. It’s alongside a Reverso as a must have.
It really is a design inspiration. I need to get my hands on a Galbee one day soon. And speaking of Reverso's... I may or may not have a video about them coming up in the near future ;) Thanks for the comment, Dan!
We've seen far too many videos on Cartier Santos, practically all of them repeating the same thing. Your video, on the other hand, is storytelling and what great voice! Bravo. I am still in a great dilemma between medium-large sizes as the message changes radically by 3mm, especially when you are not looking for a "statement". Your video helps to look at the design and sizes from a different aspect without being bias. Shall I just say that I loved your review?
So interesting brother, and extremely well done as always! I had no idea of the background of this piece. I’ll never look at it in the same way again! Love your vids!!
Dude look up the Skeleton Cartier Crash it is actually mental.
What an absolute beaut! Thank you for the suggestion, Anton! (it puts a whole new meaning into "Organic") For those who are interested: www.cigaraficionado.com/article/cartiers-crash-is-reborn-as-a-skeleton-18406
Another amazing video ID Guy! The Cartier Santos is often overlooked by many, but is a true icon along with the Submariner and Speedmaster.
The Santos de Cartier is actually responsible for me getting interested in Cartier, with this video amongst others, forming part of my research along the way. Since picking up the 2018 Santos with smart link system I have added a 1999 Tank Americaine and a 2011 Tank MC. Three watches with the same design philosophy but each quite different really. I must admit to becoming something of a Cartier fan boy now! I have a hankering to expand my Cartier collection further with a Tank Louis or a Santos Dumont at some stage. Maybe even a Tank Francais. It’s an addiction.
Well supposedly women's wrist watches came first, the Santos came later but... regardless it is a magnificent watch. I love Cartier and their roman numeral font. They just know how to do it so elegantly which, as you mentioned, is paramount to the designs. I fell in love with Cartier through their Calibre line and currently own a Cle and a Tank.
I think the newest Santos is the perfect everyday watch, and is definitely on my want list!
@Saadat Hussain I haven't provided any either but any sources for that statement?
So yr the one that down voted👎this video -😁
@Saadat Hussain Thanks but it doesn't seem like the article itself is based off of solid evidence so I will reserve my judgement a little longer. Also, I remember reading that Santos was the proper "watch" in that it wasn't a pocket watch with lugs just attached to it. I should really provide with you with backing information too but most of my information comes from wiki and other articles :)
I'm so tempted by the Galbee and the Americaine... And the dials... I think they speak louder than any description ever could. Real watchmaking icons. Thank you for the comment as always, Minonano.
Still discovering these older videos, this is so great, I remember working in an AD and looking at a row of Tanks and Santos and thinking how boring they were, this was in an age where my aesthetic intellect was as big as the pimples on my nose. Thank god for evolution, and thank god for timeless design
Late to the dance on this vid, but still really enjoyed it. Provenance is unrivalled , instantly recognizable case shape, and cutting edge tech for the most modern version of the piece 👍
B-O-R-I-N-G! Please get back to anything Rolex and only Rolex related! Kidding!! Another great vid ;)
Hahaha! I have to balance the page out. I just wish these videos would draw the same kind of audience... but hey! I will be making a cool video over the next few days that looks at many, many brands. Thanks for the comment as always, David
Rolex is apparently Swiss for boring.
I purchased a pre-owned XL Jumbo never worn (under 3K with box/papers) from my dealer in the US a few months ago which is still awaiting to be opened in the boxed it was shipped, it really was a purchase for my wife but she is wearing her Tudor P01 on the weekends giving her wrist a break from her AP Royal Oaks or Off Shore Bricks...but I am not sure if I like the fact that the screws all don't align the same, perhaps that is my OCD which is not usually me at all. But I have alway had the idea that I would acquire a Roadster for myself as I like anything linked to automotive when it comes to horology. Another great VLOG as always @IDGuy, I will have to see which vintage tanks I have in the collection as they are too small to wear & fragile...all member of my family like a large sized watch now following in my footsteps, as we see watches under 40mm coming back into vogue. #KeepMopvingForward
I would so love to connect with you one of these days! I do browse my email religiously thinking that today might be the day that something arrives from you ;) I'm so happy that your wife is enjoying the P01 still! I have yet to see one in public yet, but is must be a showstopper. And the cartier family really do have all shapes and sizes to offer. The pieces that have drawn me in are the Galbee and the Americaine. Love the proportions of the pieces. It does look like we're moving towards smaller scaled watches again! In my latest video on the El Primero, it's clear that they are pushing the 38 - 39mm sizes along with the 42's and up (I think all brands should have a balance with their sizes) Thank you as always for the comment. I cannot wait to connect with you one day.
Very interesting. Even though Cartier is not my cup of tea, one can only admire the brand's history and it's impact on the intire human race.
It is unreal how this watch subliminally influenced so many other names (and it's understandable why it isn't to everyone's tastes) Thank you as always for your insightful comments!
Excellent video. You sold me on purchasing a Santos. Well done!
I would dissagree that the Santos looks dated , I think both watches look startelingly modern especially when you compare their designs with what much industrial design looked like 100 plus years ago , pretty amazing , imagine a company designing a watch for one person like the Santos today , incredible . PS I really like your videos great stuff , good points of view .
Alberto Santos Dumont is the first airplane inventor period:
YES
Brazilian king
The first public airplane flight ever recorded, with hundreds of witnesses, records and photos.
Wright Brothers would like to talk to you
Great video buddy! Probably the best one on the Santos in the entire TH-cam world. Maybe we just miss a couple of wrist shots.
Really good video. I know it’s subjective, but I could not disagree more: I think the Santos design has held up so much better than the Tank. The Tank is handsome, but certainly looks older to me than the Santos.
Great video tho! Extremely comprehensive
The great Santos Dumont! Beautiful video, thanks!
Various opinions here, but to my information it was Breguet's "Reine de Naples" watch. The first wristwatch in the world was for a lady.
The information seems to be all over the show. I added an excerpt in the description of the video saying: "Footnote: The debate surrounding the World's First Wristwatch is still ongoing. Patek Phillipe claims that they invented the first wristwatch in 1868, but it seems that the general consensus is that the first recorded wristwatch originated in the early 20th Century. Some believe that wrist watches were used during the Boer War and some believe that the wearing history goes back even further. Fascinating nonetheless." I am going to investigate more into the Bregeut line though... this history is fascinating. Thank you for the information Andreas!
Best channel out there. Thanks for another great design analysis
“Where the Santos, with an almost Baroque styling.” SOLD!!
This is a fantastically crafted video. well done sir
I do so like the time piece and the Tank watch. Cartier's watches are elegant to my eyes.
According to the Guinness World Records. The first wristwatch was made for Countess Koscowicz of Hungary by the Swiss watch manufacturer Patek Philippe
Wonderful video. Thank you. I have always liked the Tank time piece.
The best watch ever !
The first wristwatch was actually made by Abraham-Louis Breguet for the Queen of Naples in 1810. 🤔 I guess for what I found, correct me if I'm wrong
Great video, I love the Santos.
Have you thought about making a video talking about the original Ikepod watches? the ones designed by Marc Newson, who in my opinion is one of the greatest Industrial Designers of the modern era.
What a beautifully done documentary!
Santos is so good. Great history. Looks amazing.
The absolute beauty is the simplicity. Yes, the elongated Roman Numerals aid in quickly reading the time while filling up empty space.
The Skeleton is repulsive. It's too busy and makes reading the time quickly almost impossible.
Numerals, numerals and more numerals. Absolutely adore their use on the pieces. I think looking beyond the Skeleton's layout, what fascinates me more is that the Romans that we know all too well make such an excellent statement on the watch. We can look at it immediately and say "Cartier" without even flinching... how remarkable is that? Thank you for the comment Chris!
As the new owner of a vintage Santos I enjoyed your video immensely. It's a special feeling to have stewardship over something with such provenance.
Something so timeless about the Santos. Cartier does Romans right for sure. Have you considered making a video about MVMT watches? I know watch people say they are rubbish, but they must appeal to so many for a reason. Is it the design?? or mainly marketing?
to me the santos bracelets look more tank related than the bracelets or straps on the tank ironically
wish they'd bring back the original "tank normal" which I think was used by the military.. Heard General Pershing wore a Tank Normale...
What a stunner! God, I've just been inundated with Cartier pieces over the last few days... The Americaine and Galbee are calling to me. But the Normale looks so elegant... love the small size! Thank you for the comment, Kurt!
Hi. Great video as always. The tank is a lovely dress watch. Would I buy one? Well no I wouldn't as I prefer a jlc watch but Cartier are watch innovators and have my respect. Long may they continue.
My aspirational piece.. Santos Large Grey Dial (7.35" wrist).. About 1/4 of the way saved up.. ETA.. hopefully 12 months.
Hi guys. I am torn between (both Blue dial) Cartier Santos WSSA0013 VS IWC Portuguese 371491. What is your opinion between the two? Please don’t troll, just wanted your expert opinion.
Fantastic review.
According to the Guinness World Records, the first wristwatch was made in 1868 for Countess Koscowicz of Hungary, by Swiss watchmaker Patek Philippe
"When the renowned aviator Alberto Santas Dumont wanted to pilot his rudimentary excuse for an aircraft" Hehe, a quality complisult right out the gate!
Excellent video sir. 👍👍
I had the Santos 100 on full bracelet. On that one I felt the numerals were a bit too large, whereas the Romans on my Ralph Lauren Sporting Chrono are just about perfect. Still, nothing beats the yellow gold Tank worn by Hans Gruber, eating hors d'oevre has he says, 'Mister Takagi will not be joining us for the rest of his life'.
PS what is the Tank ref. number at 3:58 ??
santos was gliding around with a small zeppeline in paris betwen bars he was a beast
A watch that has grown on me recently. In the 1980's I felt that this was such a masculine design.
The true timepiece ever
Fantastic video. Thanks.
Excellent overview better then any you tuber 10🌠
Great content! Thank you.
Excellent présentation. Thanks
Awesome video. Thank you!
Documented Fact: The first wristwatch is credited to Abraham-Louis Breguet, designed for the Queen of Naples in 1810
personally the santos looks way more timeless than the tank to me
I love my Santos.
Brava! Well said.
Cartier didn't make the first wristwatch though... Breguet made the first documented wristwatch in 1810 and there is evidence for a few others even before that. Great story, but not even close to the first.
Nope, good thing most luxury watches don't do a thing for me..
-cause I'm poor😭 💙yr video's my friend👍🍻🇱🇷
Don't tell anyone this... but I'm also poor. I love the irony that I write about these ridiculous watches that I cannot even dream to afford at this point in my life haha! Thanks for the comment, man
Today we comeback to wear wristwatch as accessories because our phone is more accurate telling time.
WHolly molly! I didn't know cartier was the first to make wrist watches....
This is the most iconic watch in the world…first wrist watch ever made
Santos Dumont, is the same than St. Dumont?
Excellent
Actually the first wristwatch was a woman’s timepiece made by Breguet.
Nice watch
The greatest time peace is this video * the account * the information * the HOLY HISTORICAL TIME PIECE* GOD BLESS YOU HUGE ⚠️U TUBE ⚠️🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗
Nope!
The first wrist watch was made in 1868 for Countess Koscowicz of Hungary, by Swiss watch maker Patek Philippe.
Also with records...
The very first wrist watch was made in 1810 for the Queen of Naples.
1790 - an accounts book mentions a watch attached to a strap manufactured by Jacquet-Droz and Leschot.
1650 - a philosopher and mathematician by the name of Blaise Pascal was rumoured to wear his watch on his wrist.
Late 1500s - Queen Elizabeth I reportedly received a bracelet watch as a gift from Robert Dudley, however the maker of the watch is unknown.
For men you say....
Omega had already produced wristwatches for men by 1889 and in 1900 was supplying the British Army with them .
I own a santos for years now dont want to have another watch again
Cartier is all about design, "never copy, only create"
Santos would be 100% better if they could figure out how to align the screw heads like AP Royal Oak.
In fact, nothing new for the design of wrist watches today, just like fashion, the old can be a new and repeat of itself again and again, however the dial size will making bigger for the stature of popular people today.
There's no history worthwhile here other than the narrator showboating his knowledges on the vintage models.
what about Breguet first wrist watch?
There has been talk about it in the comments that I hope to bring forward in a future video. I added this in the description of the video when it was first posted: "The debate surrounding the World's First Wristwatch is still ongoing. Patek Phillipe claims that they invented the first wristwatch in 1868, but it seems that the general consensus is that the first recorded wristwatch originated in the early 20th Century. Some believe that wrist watches were used during the Boer War and some believe that the wearing history goes back even further. Fascinating nonetheless." So it's interesting that Patek also claims the same thing... It'll make quite a fun discussion ;)
Good
Excellent video, particularly attracted to the skeleton tho like you I'm not usually a fan . Keep up the good work, Cheers 👍👍
Somehow I missed this one 🤔
Santos Dumont invented the airplane, the Wright Brothers invented the airplane catapult.
Found the brazilian.
😁👍
Bizarre🤔😎✌🌍
Genta got inspiration from...............?
Right? I bet that he was wearing a Santos while designing the Royal Oak... How cool would that be to prove? Thanks for the comment as always, Marc!
I think the first wrist watch was invented much earlier.
Talking watches ep. 100 with industrialdesignguy. - Looks good,doesn`t it?
If I was invited to be a part of a Talking Watches episode... my time here on TH-cam would be well spent. But then, I'd need some killer pieces to show off... One day, man... One day.
The big Papa of the wristwatch
And Patek made it for men first time.
Amazing, the same guy who invented the motor plane
"...to pilot his rudimentary excuse for an aircraft". Zero respect for whom arguably invented the airplane. Worthy of facepalm, bravo!
Less as a tool and more as an accessory. How dare you speak of AC3 like this!
First Wristwatch for men would be right...
As someone who lives in Dayton, Ohio I give the first flight to the Wright Brothers ;)
Which in fact has NEVER been proven. Santos Dumont invented the airplane, the Wright Brothers invented the airplane catapult.
Proof: trust me bro
The original tank gets my vote a compliment indeed considering how much i HATE roman numerals.........................................
I agree. They aren't my go-to indices either but the way the Romans have been utilised with the Tank (the Cartier pieces in general) Pure Mastery. Thanks for the comment, Russell.
Recorded uncontrolled flight...... Get it right.......