Will it start? Oliver OC 46 track loader sitting for 10 years with seized injection pump
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ค. 2023
- Introducing the Oliver OC 46 tracked loader to the channel. I bought it as part of a package deal with Skinny, the Case 310 crawler dozer parts machine. Neither were running but this Oliver diesel engine was free and spinning. The previous owner told
me it has been sitting for at least 10 years.
Will it start without an injection pump?
Will it run long enough to determine if the engine and hydraulic system are viable enough to warrant the expense of an injection pump rebuild?
Shout out to Todd Stauffer (@DadyRat) of Stauffer Diesel (@staufferdieselincstadco3873) for his technical help evaluating and diagnosing the engine. (I’m fairly new to diesels systems)
Shout out to my son Stephen and nephew Kieth for hauling Skinny and the Oliver for me.
The starter I bought on eBay for $99 was listed as a starter for a New Holland Skid Steer L783 with a Perkins 4-203.
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Want more of the Oliver 😊
Welcome to the channel
Thank you for not playing dumb ass filler music like most other YT channels do
Thank you for the feedback. I will note this for the future as well
its always great to see some one bring old trackers back to life
Welcome to the channel! Thanks for watching.
Give Area Diesel Service a call and see if they can rebuild your pump. That is what they specialize in. Check out the injection pump and turbo they did for Diesel Creek. Very old machines. They have a TH-cam channel. Yes. Would like to see more. Nice machine to restore. Worth the investment. Cheers.
Thanks for the referral!
I'll second that vote for Area Diesel @@northeastoutpost
You can get parts for the OC46 from Zimmerman Oliver Cletrac in Ephrata Pennsylvaina. There are 3 versions of that engine so you need the engine serial number for internal parts. Hercules engines are not related to Perkins engines in any way.
Welcome to the channel! I had the pleasure of taking to the folks at Zimmerman’s a few weeks ago about my situation and found them very knowledgeable. Thanks for the heads up about Hercules engines and incompatibility with Perkins engines.
You have a good little machine there, It also has an auxillery transmission, which can be a reverser or hi lo transmission. Its easy to tell when you get it running.@@northeastoutpost
Yes the Oliver deserves it's day! get that pump sent off to Area Diesel and get her fixed!
Thanks for the suggestion
Oh yea the Cosby sauce is a sure thang a couple of snorts an yull know great video 👍👍
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Love those old Oliver's let's see this thing work......
I’ll keep you posted!
She's a runner!
Indeed. Now if we can get her running on her own that’d be swell
Ollie Dee. For Oliver Diesel
Thanks for the suggestion!
Pretty green antifreeze dripping out of it an every big name , Cummins cat,mack, Detroit,an more sold there stuff with eather kits on most of it just as long as you dont cosby sause it to death than your good ...👍👍😊
Welcome to the channel
@@northeastoutpost an Glad I run across it it's good stuff 👍😉
I have a 1962 Oliver 550 tractor that I call "Ollie". It is a really nice machine. I bought it refurbished from a retired farmer that likes doing that kind of thing. If you want you can call your's "Ollie" also. I think my Ollie would like having a sibling. Bob
A sibling, I like that. Thanks for watching!
Would love to see more of this machine getting repaired and back in service. Pacific Northwest hillbilly rebuilt a cat dozer that had a hydraulic pump on the front and squatch253 just rebuilt a d2 cat and did a full restoration of it , and I agree with to others Area diesel service is a good place to send the injector pump.
Thank you for the encouragement and the recommendation!
A clip borad would work prefict for a run away just saying iv seen em eat rags granted they where a lot bigger that ol pocket rocket there 👍👍👍👍 great video 👍👍👍
Good idea
Sweet it run
Great video ! 👍
Thank you and welcome to the channel!
“Babe the Blue Oliver”
Thanks for the suggestion
I have a gas OC46 I rebuilt & painted. I got lots of parts from Zimmerman's. They will do lots of heavy work. The Hydraulics are quick too.
Thanks for the referral to Zimmerman’s. Yes, they are quite knowledgeable! I’m looking forward to getting this rig to work.
Put a pump on it that motor solid 😊
May it be so!
Starter seemed to work OK. If it starts skipping you might look at changing that shim between it and the bell housing to something thinner if the flywheel will allow more gear engagement.
Yeah, I wasn’t sure it was going to work well since the ring gear looked dinged up. But I’m really pleased with this starter. It was listed as a starter for a New Holland Skid Steer L783 with a Perkins 4-203. I got it for $99 on eBay.
Ye ol hose clamp trick!👌
Ha ha!
Get her running 👍
I will try!
I’d call it green, because yellow and blue make green and it would be fun to see how many people caught the reference lol
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Old Blue is great name cheers
Thanks for the suggestion
I'm fixing to subscribe brother love old iron wasn't old when I started got bless you brother good luck with channel praying that it will prosper brother like ole Harley lol
Welcome to the channel! Any nickname suggestions for the Oliver?
@@northeastoutpost heck ole blue sounds the best unless you rattlecan it another color stay free brother
Third vote for “Ol’ Blue”
Ollie for the win sir.
Thank you for input!
Babe The Blue OX, Paul Bunyan's ttrusty sidekick.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Looking forward to the next video of Blueberry
Welcome to the channel!
ole blue i think would be a good name
Hey, good name will be a little blue
Thank you for the suggestion!
look up zimmerman oliver cletrac for parts and you can get pump rebuilt if you look up hercules dd130 diesel pump. pricey but rare machine in diesel.
Thanks for the tips! The folks at Zimmerman Oliver Cletrac are indeed helpful!
Ox is a good name
Thanks for the suggestion
Babe the blue loader, like babe the blue ox
Thank yoI for the suggestion!
For a moment there I thought it had actually started on diesel until you started batting at the controls!
There was indeed a moment where it sounded proper for sure. But the injection pump wasn’t even in the machine!
@@northeastoutpost Not even sounded proper, it smoked black like it sucked fuel in rather than ether. But hey the machine's viable and the engine's internally healthy enough so that injection pump's worth fixing/rebuilding!
Indeed! Now to find a workable injection pump (or a good rotor head and driveshaft). I hope my next video is about installing the pump and operating the machine!
@@northeastoutpost I don't know if your budget allows, but you could send it off to Area Diesel Services. they've gone through injection pumps on other TH-camr's old iron and made 'em run right as rain again.
I imagine it isn't cheap, but what they would send back would effectively be brand new.
th-cam.com/video/Uz8WAjz2PnI/w-d-xo.html
I appreciate the lead! BTW, have any nickname suggestions for the Oliver?
Call it the Blue Turd
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Send the injection pump to Area Diesel service and let them take a look.
Thanks for the referral. I’ve been hearing their name a lot!
Hercules and Perkins are the same motor Perkins diesel motors are still made today my dad started out in excavating with those Oliver machines
Interesting. The starter I installed cross-referenced to the starter for a Perkins (4-203 I think).
Hercules were US made, Perkins are Pommie, but owned by Caterpillar nowadays.
Yes
Indeed!
nice dozer😅❤
Thanks!
nice
Thanks!
Well if the bucket stated up long then 4 hours it cause permit pump damage....my oli lady mit leave me if I was a badass little crawler an couldn't get it up ...all you could do is just crawl around all day your friends stop by what you do to Day aw just crawl around....I know am stupid....3 time Iv watched it tho 👍 steal a Great video 👍👍👍
Welcome to the channel.
The bucket is supported with a piece of C-channel. It’s not being held up by the pump or the valves.
Do a compression test to see if it can run. Then check valve adj. Right?
Not a bad idea. A leak down would be even better
Hot potato thats a frist an that's pretty cool ...if i had it id name it Viagra keep it around about 4 hours an get read if it 😮😅i just wount treat it like you said every body eals did that's how you ger sumthang you cant give back ... parts house want take ol warn out parts back 😆😆😆 all jokes aside it's a pretty cool little dozer hot potato fits it to...,👍👍👍👍👍
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Ol' Blue
Thanks for the suggestion
@@northeastoutpost thank you for the nice content!
Did the Oliver cost you same amount as the D2 Cat? I'd like to see your restoration progress on the Oliver track loader. Looks like Ford blue !
Hot Potato (the yellow machine at the beginning of the video) is a Case 310. I bought the Oliver OC 46 together with another Case 310 (a narrow gauge version I call Skinny).
I’m currently trying to source an injection pump (or a drive shaft and rotor head) for the Oliver.
Why not Oliver? it's written on it!
You have a point!
Send the injector pump to Area Diesel Service, Carlinville, Ill for a rebuild
Thanks for the lead!
@northeastoutpost, new edition/oliver name: "babe" or "ol' blue."
Welcome to the channel. Thank you for the name submissions. Babe is a new one. “Ol’ Blue” is in the running along with Ollie.
Paul Bunyon blue ox (BABE)
Thank you for the suggestion
Area Diesel Illinois for your pump
Thank you for lead!
I would name that Blue Tractor Babe. After babe the blue ox. From Paul bunion and babe the blue ox. Sounds appropriate right
Thanks for the suggestion!
The RH track on the Case dozer is on backwards, will chew thru the sprockets and bushes in no time.
😮 I never noticed that! That’s the track haven’t had off (yet). I’m curious, what causes this to speed up the wear process?
@@northeastoutpost There is some good vids on U tube that explain it all.
I also do believe yanmar motors are made by the Perkins motor company..
Interesting. I wonder what might be interchangeable from Perkins to the old Hercules I have.
Not correct. Yanmar is made by yanmar and they aren’t owned by anybody.
Perkins is owned by caterpillar
next time use two cans of either and see how that works out for you
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You only give a diesel a sniff of starter fluid once in a while. You drowned that poor thing, and lucky you didn't lock it up.
It takes a lot of cranking to get heat built up in the cylinders to ignite the fuel. Thats why older diesels have pony moters to warm them up before turning on the fuel for them to actually start.
Put that either can down for awhile and crank that engine to build up some friction heat, then only like a 1/2 second sniff of either.
You’re right. Took me a little while to figure that out.
Baby Smirf
Nice! Thanks for the suggestion
You will be lucky if there are any upper ring lands left in it.
Stay tuned…
Old Blue
Thanks for the suggestion
Yes it do want to c more but it won't b doing if u use all that stuff in can lol
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Call it confusion. It was yellow now it's blue.
🤣 I know, right?
Hercano in Ohio for Hercules parts
Thanks for the tip!
THE BLUE MULE?
Thanks for the suggestion
how about great ape, even though its small, but after the cartoon ape...
Thanks for the suggestion
call it " Blue Devil""
Thank you for the suggestion! It actually hits for me since I was a Blue Devil.
Call it blue bull
U want area diesel and have a word
Thank you
Worth fixing
I hope so!
Viagra i no it want happen but it fits 👍👍👍👍
Funny
Blueberry
Thank you for the suggestion!
yeah get old bluey back to work again,
Welcome to the channel
Papa smurf
Thanks for the vote
Also, you were hitting the wrong terminal on the starter, you were hitting the ground. Hit the solenoid terminal with the power
Thanks for the tip!
Little bucket
You know what they say, “Little loader, little bucket”. :)
Skinny potato
😂 nice!
les talk more work
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Geezus buddy you were drowning it in ether....you wouldn't even let it come down to an idle...
I know, right? It took me a little bit to figure that out