Dmitri Shostakovich - Symphony No. 8 | Semyon Bychkov | WDR Symphony Orchestra

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  • Dmitrij Shostakovich's Symphony No. 8 in C minor op. 65, played by the WDR Symphony Orchestra under the baton of its then chief conductor Semyon Bychkov. Recorded in March 2001 at the Cologne Philharmonie, video director Hans Hadulla. Historical recording from the WDR archives.
    Dmitri Shostakovich - Symphony No. 8 in C minor op. 65
    00:00:00 I. Adagio - Allegro non troppo
    00:26:00 II. Allegretto
    00:32:19 III. allegro non troppo
    00:38:19 IV. Largo
    00:47:41 V. Allegretto
    WDR Symphony Orchestra
    Semyon Bychkov, conductor
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  • @cantthinkofausername6749
    @cantthinkofausername6749 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    54:56 here begin the best 40 seconds of camera editing ever

    • @Kontrabass66
      @Kontrabass66 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      NO. It is 38:00 plus

    • @user-be9cf5qv2q
      @user-be9cf5qv2q 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm speechless . . . I am without speech. Shostakovich would be . . . well, amazed, I guess.

    • @GregSpradlin
      @GregSpradlin หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Check out 35:56 .
      Somebody watched a lot of MTV in their youth 😀

    • @pablosuarezl.6288
      @pablosuarezl.6288 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      32:02 It's so perfect too🙃

  • @Addaick714
    @Addaick714 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Just want to say these WDR/Bychkov Shostakovich series in the 2000s have a great camera work in terms of capturing the important moments of individual instruments. We can see that the editors have a thorough understanding of the scores. But I must say that some visual effects are making audiences feel dizzy.

    • @barney6888
      @barney6888 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The video editors need to realize, not as much here, that the music doesn't need any help. All we need and want to see is how it's done. Symphonic videography should help reveal the performance mystery, never seek to entertain on its own. When the orchestra members are cued to smile at each other is when I turn it off, I don't care how good it is, it isn't any good if they have to do that when playing.

    • @Tortuosit
      @Tortuosit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@barney6888I agree, those VFX were rather annoying.

    • @user-be9cf5qv2q
      @user-be9cf5qv2q 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It's part of the modern tradition to never let 5 seconds go by without an editing effect - either a cut or a zoom. Anything. I fail to see how sudden close-ups of any individual group or player add anything to the music. I suppose it proves that the editor/producer can read a score. What it means is that someone is making musical decisions for the listener/viewer. Not necessarily a good thing. I suspect that the video-makers just can't resist - when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

  • @philippecirse4872
    @philippecirse4872 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The bucolic touch, tinged with melancholy of this symphony causes an abyssal diving movement in my subconscious so that I end up feeling apathy before the problems, not as an escape but as an exercise of self-knowledge 🔥

  • @progettomemoria867
    @progettomemoria867 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Great Interpretation. The editing is art by itself even if not liked by all as a concept. One cannot ignore the effort (and the star-trek style creativity) in interpreting the music through images.
    Semyon Bychkov, as always, so clear, precise with musical and intellectual balance. The orchestra follows with bravura and engagement. A pleasure!

    • @WDRKlassik
      @WDRKlassik  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks, we appreciate it!

    • @rogermiller2159
      @rogermiller2159 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The video portion really follows the tension well. I love it!

  • @jgesselberty
    @jgesselberty 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The final minutes of this symphony are simply amazing.

  • @OW0974
    @OW0974 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    PLEASE DO THE 13TH SYMPHONY!!!! There is a very severe lack of good recordings on TH-cam, and by that I mean none. I am confident that Mr Bychkov and the orchestra can deliver a stunning performance of that amazing work.

    • @davidparrish2534
      @davidparrish2534 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is a great one by Gergiev

  • @Kontrabass66
    @Kontrabass66 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love the video effects. For those who don´t: It IS possible to hear music without looking! Ask Stevie Wonder... This is a great performance no matter you watch and/or just listen. Be happy it exists.. many excellent recordings of it exist. Kitajenko with Gürzenich, Cologne, is a very good one, too.

    • @arnekorpen3143
      @arnekorpen3143 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This interpretation is pure crap, nothing to listen here.

  • @JC-yb5zm
    @JC-yb5zm ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Jesus, that zoom on the English Horn player at 18:28... almost going molecular level. Dont like the cinematography but great performance from the orchestra as usual.

  • @marcelouz1
    @marcelouz1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Some investigations says that this symphony was written in 1943, it means still during the second world war, and the continuation of the 7th the famous "Leningrad " symphony, it is more a introspective battle in the soul of the composer, it is the first time I hear it, and it has been a new great experience for me, the resistance continues and it seems not to have an end . It has some musical elements of the 5th. Great symphony and very good interpretation.

    • @WDRKlassik
      @WDRKlassik  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad you like it and thanks for your insight.

    • @paulybarr
      @paulybarr 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It is absolutely one of Shostakovich's greatest and profoundest works. I am fortunate to have discovered it in my teens, and fifty years later it remains a searing emotional journey.

  • @Discovery_and_Change
    @Discovery_and_Change ปีที่แล้ว +7

    7:48 Quiet part | 11:16 flute build up | 11:34 building | 11:41 raising | 11:52 thump thump | 12:04 screech scary
    12:15 military scare | 17:21 trumpet to start end | 17:32 | 17:38 suspense hold end notes
    32:43 Mischievous | 46:50 Flute | 55:41 repeat of earlier |

  • @philliplipple1799
    @philliplipple1799 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Entertaining and educational. Something for everyone in a Shostakovich symphony.

    • @WDRKlassik
      @WDRKlassik  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks!

  • @jamiesutphin1406
    @jamiesutphin1406 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    These are great recordings and performances.

    • @WDRKlassik
      @WDRKlassik  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! We're really glad that you like our performance 🤗

  • @thejokingwizard
    @thejokingwizard ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great cinematography as always!

  • @azerm9
    @azerm9 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This photography is great!

    • @WDRKlassik
      @WDRKlassik  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! 😊

  • @Quotenwagnerianer
    @Quotenwagnerianer ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Seitdem ich Mravinski's 80er Aufnahme mit dem Leningradern gehört habe warte ich immer darauf mal eine Aufnahme zu finden wo die Trompeten im Trio des 3. Satzes genauso die Sau rauslassen. Das hier ist sie endlich. Alle anderen klingen immer so zahm.
    Was die Bildregie angeht... ich weiß was damals versucht worden ist. Ist ja auch nicht das erste Mal, das jemand versucht hat Konzertaufnahmen "aufzupeppen".
    Unnötig und ablenkend bleibt es aber immer. Das ist schon zu Karajan's Zeiten krachend gescheitert.

  • @fingerhorn4
    @fingerhorn4 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The 8th is remarkably similar in its opening to the 5th.

    • @jacobtapianieto9655
      @jacobtapianieto9655 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The exposition and development build-up of the 1st movements of both symphonies are almost identical.

  • @elenamanrique
    @elenamanrique ปีที่แล้ว +16

    There seems to be controversy regarding the editing of the video. The audiovisual world is also an art, although not as prestigious, with a short history, so those few years that have elapsed (since 2001) that are almost nothing in the classical musical tradition, are a long time in terms of evolution of audiovisual language, not so much in what can be done technically as in what is recognized as suitable for the music it serves.
    We see that they try to reinforce the elements of the music itself by transplanting them to the video (tempo, rhythm, character). It seems that time has not passed in favor of this type of language (certainly redundant), but I personally appreciate it, if only to see something different in that stagnant and often deliberately immobile and dogmatic world of classical music, with its inevitable etiquette and its "do's" and "don'ts".

    • @WDRKlassik
      @WDRKlassik  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes, you really have to keep in mind that this was made over 20 years ago and maybe see it more as a document of its time.

    • @elenamanrique
      @elenamanrique ปีที่แล้ว

      Well yes, something like that also happens with the sets in the opera, which we need to change often, to respond to passing tastes, fashions, while the music is still there, the same or almost.
      Even so, I still see this 'document' as something more than that, it seems to me that the message of the music is clearly reinforced, despite some occasional moments, perhaps somewhat exaggerated (but isn't Shostakovich's music?)

    • @Kontrabass66
      @Kontrabass66 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I always loved that video and still do, thank you! @@WDRKlassik

  • @Hussain_Eidani
    @Hussain_Eidani 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

  • @barney6888
    @barney6888 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is excellent. (I'm finally discovering that I love Shostakovich, I just don't know it yet.)

    • @WDRKlassik
      @WDRKlassik  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! 😄

  • @Tortuosit
    @Tortuosit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    44:21 Mighty clarinet solo enters the pasacaglia.

  • @waynejones3870
    @waynejones3870 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Good performance but not too keen on the video special effects.

  • @cgwabriel
    @cgwabriel ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Parabéns a orquestra e ao condutor pela performance maravilhosa!!
    Mas essa edição é P A V O R O S A!!!!! Acaba com todo e qualquer clima que apenas assistir um vídeo com as câmeras paradas e cortes suaves poderiam proporcionar! Cortes sem sentido, transições abruptas e horrorosas... 💀😶‍🌫️
    Darei like no vídeo, única e exclusivamente, por causa da performance.

  • @Tortuosit
    @Tortuosit 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    23:24 is when I jump out of the seat

  • @Tortuosit
    @Tortuosit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    34:35 I like how the string passage is played more as a staccato. Kurt Sanderling also did it this way. Mostly it's played rather legato.

  • @bruhbruh2128
    @bruhbruh2128 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hmm WDR might also have the DSCH Violin concerto No.1 performed by Maxim Vengerov and Semyon Bychkov....Would you please release the video of that performance...

  • @calebsarnowski1010
    @calebsarnowski1010 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why is this edited like a 90's action movie trailer

  • @paulrxxxmann6718
    @paulrxxxmann6718 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what is this piece about ?

  • @user-vr4ce7pw1n
    @user-vr4ce7pw1n ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was surprised by Han-geul(Korean alphabet) because always I see English explanations

  • @appogiatura
    @appogiatura 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A very fine performance! Sorry, but I am not a fan of the editing. Yes, the laser focus on the soloist(s) is very impressive. However, many of the special effects are distracting. It’s an amazing effort, but tone it down a bit and let the music remain the focu please.

  • @mariosanchez-mq1qu
    @mariosanchez-mq1qu 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ...(vagabundo Latino):
    No se nada de música, pero, pero..Estas creaciones musicales, interpretadas con gran misterio que desconozco su inspiración. Hacen que sin hechar mano de posimas vegetales, en cada nano sonido ver pasar galaxias, que compiten con la creación de los mal llamados dioses.!?!?!?!?.
    Osea, este ejercito de músicos, ojala lo sepan, que han mutado 82 minutos en dioses...y luego en perros vagabundos (léase, perros que se gravan en sus mentes, solo los minutos que se hacen dioses).

  • @user-kj4pr2jx4g
    @user-kj4pr2jx4g 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Editing is interesting
    It help people understand the piece more
    But I personally think it doesn’t quite fit the music itself

  • @sultanalamos170
    @sultanalamos170 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Porqué será, que el camarógrafo muestra con tanta cercania, al director de la orquesta...?...

  • @j.s.1621
    @j.s.1621 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    35:30 Trompetensolo

  • @user-jl3hm2kv5q
    @user-jl3hm2kv5q 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    13:10
    14:36
    27:43
    30:20
    43:09
    58:31

  • @jpegmarina
    @jpegmarina 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    35:02 51:49

  • @user-fp1dp5tr4s
    @user-fp1dp5tr4s 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    「sch」という綴り方もあるんだ…初めて知った。

  • @user-kl5be8kd7j
    @user-kl5be8kd7j 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    この唇👄に圧倒される

  • @user-jw3zi1rb5q
    @user-jw3zi1rb5q 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    これは当時現場にいた!

  • @user-to3dt3sv3r
    @user-to3dt3sv3r 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    28:48 29:44 31:32 35:22 38:14 48:49

  • @ekmke96
    @ekmke96 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    43:10

  • @pibbles-a-plenty1105
    @pibbles-a-plenty1105 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The spinning orchestra and checkerboard clips are totally unnecessary. The video editors must lead an unexciting life. Back to the music......

    • @sawyerpoet
      @sawyerpoet 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      At 55:06 I expected a shot of a mushroom cloud to be superimposed over the orchestra. It’s just embarrassing. It doesn’t matter that this was done 22 years ago. It’s still tasteless. DSCH must be rolling in his grave laughing hysterically.

  • @allcats2473
    @allcats2473 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Editing at 15:30 extremely silly

  • @sawyerpoet
    @sawyerpoet 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Fantastic performance but those video “special effects” and absurdly close close-ups are ridiculous. What? Shostakovich can’t stand on his own? We have to add cartoons now?

  • @tommartin8700
    @tommartin8700 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The superposed and out-of-focus visuals were very distracting and unnecessary.

    • @tommartin8700
      @tommartin8700 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      After all, the symphony was written for musicians, not cinematographers.

  • @robcampbell7658
    @robcampbell7658 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Disturbing visual WHY?

    • @Tortuosit
      @Tortuosit 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because they did this at that time, it's long ago.

  • @jamesoliver6625
    @jamesoliver6625 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Had to turn it off and go watch the Leningrad with Mravinsky. The artsy fartsy video work was at best infantile.

  • @alexeyizmirliev64
    @alexeyizmirliev64 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Non capisce niente delle musica il direttore.