SeeMo: The iPhone/ iPad HDMI device that transforms them into Monitors/ Recorders
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ต.ค. 2022
- The Accsoon SeeMoo is the first device to let you use your iOS device with an HDMI input so they can be used as monitors. Whilst this is a sponsored video on the Accsoon SeeMo, it's still a review in its content as I cover all the pros and cons of it as well as show you solutions for some of the limitations.
Android users have been able to do this for a while, but Apple keeps their hardware and software locked down, so it's great to finally be able to do this.
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I forgot to mention battery life. The small battery I was using will last over a day.
I see their power cage on Amazon, but do I understand correctly that that one isn't compatible with this?
what battery are you using to power the seemo?
@@windycity92 F550 I believe it’s called.
@@philipbloom thank you!
how much are you getting paid to say lies like this. product does not power the iPhone during the use, and the phone dies mach faster when in use. I had a important livestream cut off because my phone died middle of the even when I use this unit. I will hold you for lying and the company for liability. either you didn't test this unit peppery or lied intentionally.
Just the fact that you can now live stream from your phone using a DSLR or a mirrorless makes this contraption worth it.
Your humor ages like fine wine. Love it! Another fantastic review from Mr. Bloom!
Just wanted to say thank you for this and all your other videos, Philip. From the first time I read one of your posts or watched one of your videos back in the early days of DSLR video when I was deciding whether to buy a Lumix GH2 or not, I was just amazed by your expertise and great way of communicating information. The fact that it's nearly 2023 and you're still here and still helping to inform and entertain on this subject with such panache in these ephemeral times is wonderful and deserving of recognition. Best wishes to you.
I marvel every time I watch one of your videos at the sheer brilliance of your production abilities!
Oh my goodness, thank you for explaining why my phone can't hit the frame rate mark. I tried googling the answer and the answers were all spec sheets so I gave up. Thank you for putting these videos out, love watching them for your style, your cats, the knowledge and entertainment even if I won't purchase 99% of them. (I do have that purple cable though. :) )
Hi Philip, I love your videos. Love your cats. Love your style, and subtle humor. Always amazing quality. I’d like to learn more.
I’ve loved your vids for so many years! Please keep them coming Philip :)
Thanks for the video Philip. Entertaining and informative as always.
This is not just a promo video of the actual product but the best tutorial for how to make a promo video
Love the concept, thanks for the video and the help.
This is actually something I’ve had an interest in doing but didn’t know if a company had made it possible yet. Now i know!
i like your honesty and humor thank you.
Always a pleasure!
Thank you Nathan 😊
As always, this is a very nicely made helpful video. How can you make them all so lovely?
Great review!!!
enjoyable as usual!
great video, thank you!
Great vid as usual mate! Which lens did you use to record yourself explaining by the river? Loved it!
Good info. Thank you. 👍
Brilliant.
Great review! I just ordered one before I found your review. Did Accsoon mention to you when the compatible cage will be released for an iPad (11” M1 Pro)?
Didn't even think of the ipad option. That would be a great on camera monitor with not that much weight...
You are hilarious 😂 great video 🙌🏽
I love that I waited for the train and it was interrupted by a B&H commercial ;)
ok, again a train and an ad... is this timed?
Interesting device. I consider trying the Android version to use with the Tripltek monitor that I always carry with me for my drones. It's rather heavy, so I would probably mount it on the tripod. Still, it would give me an 8" monitor more or less for free.
Ah, finally a new video. I really needed 13 minutes of bliss today. *_*reclines chair_**
Hey Phil, great video. What lens are you recoding yourself on? Thanks 🙏🏼
Everybody gets a skitch. Reason enough to subscribe.
great video ! love your content ! I have a old canon 70d and I have a extra Ipad mini ... will the signal from the 70d display full screen on my ipad ? or would it show bounding / crop area ? thank you
I enjoy your videos so much Philip.. weird thing is I'm not a photographer and don't pretend to know everything like some others in the field.. but that's something about your videos . I Can't figure it out. Lol. Maybe you can help? 💙💙🤙🤙
The real story here is that we have an FX30 waiting in the wings for the Bloom treatment.
Great solution on the charging issue.
Am afraid it won’t be what you are expecting…
@@philipbloom Preferable to have an honest appraisal from you than praise from the others.
Oh !? Mr Bloom “not what you are expecting” is quite concerning as I was about to buy an FX30 and not sure what to make of that. I hope your FX30 review is online soon. Your camera reviews are the best on TH-cam so essential watching.
It would be nice if the camera manufacturers just put that tech in their cameras so we just go usb out of the camera body to the phone, bypassing the need for an external converter and extra cables and batteries. Similar to how we use mobile devices with drones. Although each brand would want to have their own silly app for their cameras instead of using one good universal one.
Great video! Can I have the link to the iPad cage?
hi Philip maybe you can address one more thing lack of a USB CAM option for iPhone or android apps could you imagine streaming to zoom or another app as a journalist or to streamyard ? multi usb stream from different angles at this same time
He keeps teasing us with the FX30 when he hasn't released a review of it yet. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!
It really was brilliant of Apple to have the first iPhone debut in the hands of William Hartnell in that now-lost Dr. Who episode.... (FX30 you say? I'm looking forward to what you have to say about it, but I do hope you pester Sony to add shutter angle!)
I have a quick question… is the camera recording option limited to 1080p 60fps? Or is it only when you record from the iPhone? Thanks!
Streaming is defs going to be a solid reason for a lot of people to buy this. I have seen many IRL streamers that could simplify their device.
How do irl streamers use cameras atm?
Since Seemo doesn’t support 4k, Is there any way to use Seemo with Xh2s in 4k recording mode? My xh2s outputs clean hdmi at 4k resolution while recording 4k video natively, and I don’t want to turn on hdmi info display…
Thank you for great review.
That '63 iphone could shoot some sweet SECAM though.
I can't really see how this is better than the CineEye - sure its small but it's not exactly much smaller than the cineeye and a battery, and then you can just mount the iPad or whatever where you like and not be worried about their battery clip?
What am I missing - I feel it's a bit gimmicky? .I am not getting the advantage over Cineeye which frees from cables and you can keep the battery charged how you like?
If I may ask, is there a maximum recording time when recording directly to iPhone?
Philip I sppreciated this video. What is the iPad mount that you found that looks so good?
Sorry?
Lovely video as always. Could you elaborate on how you connected it to the Ipad? Did that involve superglue as well? 😅 Would love to use it as a big monitor, can use every bit of screen estate when using a 2x anamorphic.
Thank you. Just velcro.
I will try to shoot 10 bit with filmic pro app. i have not tried it yet, hope it does its job
Does this support wireless transmission to another iPad with the same Acsoon SeeMo App?
Will this setup show HDR range to some extend? Apples are P3. Output from camera should be 10bit for external recorder. But what about HDMI capture cards?
I I forgot the best feature n why I keep this crazy monstrosity the streaming is wonderfully
Would’ve been really cool to see them take advantage of apples ProRes internal recording.
I mean it wouldn’t do much on an 8 bit but hey it’s a suggestion
Great video. This could be very useful for the anamorphic desqueeze function… nice one @accsoon
Ah yes, the amazing 1963 iPhone. Those were truly great times.
From The SeeMo App with iPad/iPhone... can you Control the Camera as when you are using the Camera ViewFinder or Monitor?
You should do a video of this setup VS the Monitor+ approach. With Monitor+ all you need is the app itself, but the image quality, latency, LUTS, and overall software features have yet to be compared side by side. No one has done it on TH-cam and both are gaining popularity.
Why not do it yourself?
@@philipbloom because I don't have this setup and I don't make content about content creating gear. 😂 It was just a suggestion. I'll pass it along.
@@v3zMedia but you want the info. I make very very few videos.
Anyway Monitor+ is very good, especially with the camera control with Sony cameras. The app functions are good but the image is low quality though. You can cable connect it now but it’s still poor quality but it improves the latency.
So, I’m guessing I could use this with an iPad on a teleprompter to have a monitor I could effectively film through?
I love your catio. And cats obviously. How old is that footage? I mean, at this moment in my country is pretty cold and you are from UK sooo I'm suprised with that lovely weather and temps.
thank you. This video was filmed last week.
A Gerald Undone's cable, i got one
Darn, i should've kept my ipad mini couple years ago... I have an iphone 6. Does any iphone work as a monitor with SeeMoo?
Hi, thanks for the explanation. But when you go live with the camera, your iphone and the seemo device, do you send the audio, for example, on FB, or just the video? Thanks for the reply. Alex
you send both
I use the Canon Connect app.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing! I am thinking if I can use this with my DJI RC Pro to fly my Mavic 3
Thanks...why would you do that when it has a very nice built-in touch screen with all your controls that doesn't dim? Just wipe to make it clear if that's an issue. It will be a right pain finding a way to mount it....better off getting the standard RC and using your phone with that if you want to use your phone.
@@philipbloom DJI Fly app on RC Pro doesn’t support Facebook live streaming. With this equipment, I can use my favorite apps on my iPhone for sharing and video editing more efficiently. Also I can switch camera view between Drone camera view and phone camera view during live streaming and interact with people (live chat on TH-cam/Facebook) at same time. Standard RC (DJI RC-N1) doesn’t support HDMI output.
@@MavicAir2TW that sounds really complicated and messy! Keeping yourself composed on the phone camera whilst doing a live AND flying a drone? If you are a bloke then good luck with that!! 😂
@@philipbloom Maybe it can mainly help for live chat during live streaming and switch between iPhone camera view and drone camera view
I imagine next year the iPhones should be able to pass power and image when they are usb-c / possibly thunderbolt capable
Pardon if this question was already asked and I missed it. Will this work in combination of A74 and Android?
Thank you
I really hope Sony fixes that issue to allow us to add LUTs as I really like Sony's way of doing it, no extra bulky things to carry around
i have just bought the Seemo and it is quite amzing to be able to see what you are viewing, at long last!! The only concern is the brightness of the screen on my iphone xr. it requires to turn up the display brightness and I am concerned this will drain the iphone battery very quickly.
Did you have to adjust your iphone brightness or is it an HDMI cable problem?
Great review.
Lack of phone charge was something I’m glad not to discover on our own. So, no sale.
What we want doesn’t seem to exist yet - a reliable wireless transmission to a large screen (iPad) and be able to control all the Sony settings (like the Monitor+ app)
But…
Monitor+ is very unreliable/unstable.
Other monitors don’t offer as much control or are too small or too cumbersome by or too expensive.
Guess we’ll wait for the market to provide.
i'm looking st the portkeys BM5WR monitor and they will be putting out a 7 inch soon too! - also has wireless control support for various cameras like komodo and Bluetooth with the bmpcc series blackmagic cameras
@@cjadams7434 i have a video on that.
@@philipbloom I can't wait for their 7 inch version, Yes that was a great video too!
If I connect my iPhone to my a6400 via Imaging Edge on Wifi, the 6400 shuts down in less than hour because it overheats. Does this device cause overheating of the camera? Without Imaging Edge Wifi on, the 6400 with a power pack has run for 3 hours or so, by the way. It runs till the external battery runs out.
How does this compare to Monitor+ app connected over USB C to USB C on a Sony A7IV? Is the latency the same? I find that the Monitor+ app lets you hit the trigger button in the app and the file is saved on your device as well as internally on the camera, which is great to send clients unprocessed files from your phone, but I haven’t been able to do this on the Accsoon Seemo the same way. The setup is lighter too with the Monitor+ app as you can connect a single cable or connect wirelessly. I don’t notice much difference in the 1024x576 resolution the Monitor+ app outputs either on an iPad Mini 6.
I don't have an a7iv. The latency is very minimal on the Seemo. I am also deeply confused as to how you have USB-C on an iPhone, mine is lightning!
@@philipbloom I have an iPad Mini 6 which has a USB-C port, sorry should have been clearer on that 😊 would love to see the Monitor+ app compared against the SeeMo device though.
Two questions if I may.
1. Does the same device work with iPhone 15 Pro or iPad with usb-c cable?
2. I have Monitor+ that works via USB cable, is there still any benefits buying seemo?
Yes.
Far superior image quality and no lag. Downside: no camera control.
Are you able to use the camera app in split screen on the iPad? Does the app run in PIP? I use a teleprompter app and I would love it if I can monitor and run the teleprompter app at the same time.
I’ve no idea.
Yes, Accsoon SEE support split screen.
Hi Philip, does the audio lag result in out of sync audio on the recorded or streamed video? Or because the Seemo stream (video + audio) lags then there is no dropped frame and sync issue.
Nothing is out of sync.
@@philipbloom thank you
I might have another idea for charging the phone. If you use the camera USB adapter from Apple, it has an USB A for data and a Lightning port for power. Take the Accsoon USB C cable, plug it into an USB A adapter and then stick this into the camera USB adapter. And a Lightning charging cable into the charging port of the adapter. Then plug the camera USB adapter into the iPhone. I cannot test that, but Maybe you can?
Won’t work. Only the specific lightning cable from Accsoon will allow video.
@@philipbloom but doesn’t the iPad Mini have USB-C input?
Is this mana from heaven. I have canon Hf 4k camcorder with a ridiculously small LCD. I also have a spare iPad mini. Is this the way to go forward or buy a dedicated field monitor?
Only you can make that decision…depends now much you use your phone whilst filming.
I often mount two cameras on a single tripod for quick A/B interviews at conferences. Would be interested if this device could pair with a quick mini - hdmi switcher (cheap on Amazon) where you could switch back and forrth between two camera angles. Any ideas on this? Even though it may take a second to switch the feed, the large screen would be a wonderful two-cam monitoring solution.
Not going to work. Cheap switchers lose image briefly. Not clean.
Hey Phillip I heard mini 3 pro just got an update which enables style adjustments like noise and sharpness have you tried them, i guess with sharpness kept to 0 footage will look much better now
Give it a try and see. I’ve not tried myself yet. More big things to come though :!
0 and 0 is what the default is and why the mini 3 pro looked like before. Reducing sharpness gives us what we want.
Thanks for the review and the variable frame rate is scaring me from buying this product to use with my iPad Pro. :(
That’s nothing to do with this though, that’s down to the how iOS/ android record video. Why is it scaring you?
@@philipbloom , extra steps to convert files. It’s kills the workflow mojo. 🤦🏻
@@mrheng562 what do you want to use the recordings for?
@@philipbloom , editing on my phone. I was planning to keep it easy and edit with iMovie. I’m afraid the files mihjt not play nice in iMovie.
@@mrheng562 you need to listen to what I am saying both in the video and here…ALL video recorded on iPhones/ androids use a target frame rate. That means via the camera app too. Editing clips recorded with the SeeMo is the same as editing video captured on the iphone. In fact it will be easier as it will be only 1080p. iMovie etc round the frame rates up.
When you can shoot some clips on your phone and airdrop then to your mac, then open them with QuickTime and use inspector to look at the frame rate. You will see that they are most likely to be slightly off the frame rate you set the camera too.
Hi Philip, does this work well in stills mode too? Wonder about using it with an iPad as almost a large format style setup
I mean it’s a monitor so you can see it with anything. You have no controls for the camera on the screen though.
@@philipbloom Brilliant. Thank you!
This might be very usefull as a director's monitor with a wireless system and an Ipad. I don't think I would ever use this directly on a camera. It looks too bulky for a 5 inch-ish display
how is it bulky? it's an iPhone! Some of these comments and mind glowingly strange. if you want wireless get the Cineeye 2.
How long does a small battery like the one you used last ?
Yes I forgot to add that, well over a day.
I’m curious, is it better than the monitor+ app? I’m using it with my sony a1. There is little lag but I still got monitor+false color+luts+focus peaking. No cables, no extra battery. Thanks for the input Philip
The image quality is massively better with this as it the minimal lag. No control though, like other monitors.
@@philipbloom thanks for the reply 😉
Were you filming my wife!? (She was driving on that bridge)
4:26 "Production value!!" ha ha.. I remember John carpenter talking about the scene in "Halloween" when Loomis was on the phone and the train came through. He was so pissed but then realized how much better the scene played out. thats probably where Spielberg got the idea for that line in "Super 8". about the product, they should investigate trying to use the iPhones LIDAR for autofocus for cinema cameras. One last thing, I still cant figure out why people want to record another video along with their cameras. like the atmosphere ninja, whats the purpose of recording whats already being recorded? im not sure I understand that. thanks for the vid! happy shooting
iPad mini would be an ideal size for me
I bet you wrote this before the watching the whole video, eh? 🙃
Hi with my Iphone 13 pro max and SS I can go LIVE without needing anything else. With Seemo to go LIVE will I always have to connect to an ipad? Alex
What’s SS? Why are you using an iPad to go live?
Hi Philip. Any hope to use tentacle timecode in an clever way with this device ? thanks
For what? No point having timecode on recordings for the reason I showed.
my first thought when I saw it: they should have built a magsafe charger into the clamp
Would have saved me some time if they had!
Very cool and seems like it will really come in handy, but 13 minutes? Who edited this video? I still have tons of popcorn left…🍿
Watch on repeat…
I've tested streaming from two different cameras on two separate SeeMo devices, and I can't get the stream any better than 14fps, regardless of the bitrate. Has anyone else noticed this issue?
Ive never understood why i need to spend $500 on a Chinese monitor built like a cheap toy when my $500 ipad mini is an engineering marvel.
Exactly! Not to mention the Chinese monitors have terrible battery life, and really low quality display panels.
All of the external camera monitors would disappear overnight if phones and tablets got native video in.
Hey, what kind of sorcery do you do to operate the ECM-B1M on the side of your rig? Video please 🙏 🪄🧙♂️
I don’t. Where did you see that? It can be done though using the mi shoe relocating cable that comes with the K1M.
@@philipbloom The relocating cable is also available as a spare part, without the K1M, Pricy though (130 euros in Spain) but still cheaper than the K1M if you already own an FX3 or FX30 with XLR handle.
I wanna try with something like an iPhone Lightning to 2 Lightning Adapter... Not sure it will work, but smaller / cheaper than a magsafe.
What for? Power? Telling you now, MagSafe is literally the only way.
@@philipbloom yes, for power, something like an Y cable between their original cable and the iPhone. On Accsoon's website I tried to find but they didn't mention anywhere it's a dedicated / proprietary cable. Of course I believe you if you say so the MagSafe is the only way :)
Worst case scenario I'll use my soldering iron :D
Peter
@@MeetupvideoUK you can’t even use a standard lightning cable to get video
@@philipbloom if you’ll have time could you please try the device with interlaced or Psf signal? Does it work? Thank you
@@MeetupvideoUK it takes 1080i so PSF will be fine.
Is it possible to download material from camera to iPhone by means of accsoon?
No, please remember there is no data connection between the two, they are connected via HDMI only.
It's amazing how much people are talking about this now and how much the original Android version was ignored.
The reason being you’ve been able to use any of those cheap hdmi adaptors for years with Android. This is the first time we’ve been able to get HDMI into an iOS device.
Hope you held on to that 1963 iPhone, they're worth a mint now ;)
5:21 I just received mine and for some reason the quality of the internal recording and the image in general is pretty bad, It is outputting a 1080p video but the image looks extremely compressed and far worse than the examples you showed. Do you know what could be going on? I'm shooting on the a7siii.
Have you increased the bitrate in the app?
Many thanks for your review Philip. Very professional as always!!
Quick question: can you also duplicate the camera display with all the same menus? Thanks in advance.
Thank you.
What do you mea. By duplicate the camera display? You mean show the camera’s on screen display? Yes, I show that in this video but depending on your camera that could shrink the image as the Sony mirrorless cameras do.
@@philipbloom Thanks for your quick reply. Yes this is what I meant. I have an A7SIII. I have to test it!!
@@AitorApezteguia I don’t recommend it as you lose the touch focus on the camera LCD when you output the camera display. I only ever do it when I need to record the menus for camera reviews. It’s a shame they do it, Fujifilm cameras don’t have this issue.
@@philipbloom Thanks again. I didn’t know that and it is really a pity that SONY has not implemented it.
Keep on doing such a good work Philip!
Feels like you filmed this with dzo glass?
Nope. Sony glass with diffusion....DZO lenses auto focus 🙂
I bought an apple Ipad Pro and connected to Seemo with my mirrorless camera but the resolution on the ipad screen is horrible. I am only shooting still shots. Is this fixable? Thanks.
Which camera and what output settings?
I noticed the reversed sequence when inserting, or rather pulling out the cable, just so you know. 😇
Not reversed, I used the force
@@philipbloom 😆
would this work for using my ipad as a third monitor on my pc for color grading?
I don’t think that’s a great idea really. It’s only 30bmps and 8 bit