Boots Riley - How Capitalism Needed Racism To Operate (247HH Exclusive)

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  • Official 247HH exclusive interview with Oakland based Hip Hop artist Boots Riley, where you’ll hear about how capitalism used racism in order to gain a power. Check out how he explains how this is still relevant today in this #247HHEXCL
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  • @michaeltaylor9316
    @michaeltaylor9316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I'm just discovering Boots Riley, very impressed with his discussion of capitalism.

    • @joshknightfall
      @joshknightfall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You seen "Sorry to Bother You" yet? It's one of the most potent social satires I've ever seen.

  • @lainesheldon-houle9476
    @lainesheldon-houle9476 7 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    Good class and race analysis!

    • @FunkFight1
      @FunkFight1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Northern Wealth Anarchy Perimeter there is no actual historical fact in your argument.

    • @SoundMind.
      @SoundMind. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@FunkFight1 slavery literally launched modern capitalism in america

    • @FunkFight1
      @FunkFight1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SoundMind. this is true and this is why capitalism and racism are bound together. Can't get rid of one without getting rid of the other.

  • @globbymobby
    @globbymobby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    EVERYONE SHOULD WATCH THIS NOW IN 2020. DESCRIBES EVERYTHING THAT IS HAPPENING. HATS OFF TO BOOTS RILEY FOR THIS KNOWLEDGE

  • @montumeroe9593
    @montumeroe9593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This Black American is very knowledgeable nice to hear a Black American speak about something concrete not some religion from the desert.

    • @247HH
      @247HH  3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @Twizzledoc187
    @Twizzledoc187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I’ve been a fan of the Coup since 1994. This group was highly underrated.

  • @carefreelandon1734
    @carefreelandon1734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Someone like Boots Riley will never get an interview on a big platform like the Breakfast club because he's anti capitalism

  • @TheAfrolegalisespeaks
    @TheAfrolegalisespeaks 8 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Love this.

  • @clandestino6438
    @clandestino6438 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    really informative

  • @chiaochris324
    @chiaochris324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The dude is so smart and he points out the truth. Respect!!!

  • @misst2635
    @misst2635 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thank you Boots, very clear analysis

  • @isabellek992
    @isabellek992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I wanna meet him he's so smart

    • @247HH
      @247HH  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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  • @user-kw9wi4op5v
    @user-kw9wi4op5v ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This man flexed so hard when he dropped the term "primitive accumulation" within the first 30 seconds.
    That term is discussed towards the end of 'Capital Volume 1' by Karl Marx. Chapter 26 to be exact. So he probably finished the whole book, and that book is thick as hell.

    • @ashtonsgotsauce9981
      @ashtonsgotsauce9981 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      not only that, but its one of those books that almost REQUIRES rereading and iterative reading cause its so damn dense. ive totally been sleeping on this dude, though, im about to look into all his shit

  • @abbanjo13
    @abbanjo13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The concept of primitive accumulation is a really important for folks to understand. I know Riley us trying to give a 101 on the topic, but it's not a process that happens once. It's a process that repeats itself, each time a given nation or region is intensifying their market economy. So upticks in racism and racist vigilante violence and state violence are cyclical and not linear or progressive.

    • @FunkFight1
      @FunkFight1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dialectical Materialism shows that these upticks are not "cyclical" though. They are spiral. Meaning when it comes around to seemingly the same point, there is a qualitative difference that comes from the fact that a similar thing has happened before and that other things have happened since. A cyclical view would put that point in the same exact place- understanding that it's spiral means that you understand that that point is actually just in a similar position on a different plane. I'm not just nitpicking here- this is a very very important point that changes views on how to approach these problems. Capitalist economists and philosophers like to say things are cyclical, but this is a fallacy.

    • @abbanjo13
      @abbanjo13 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FunkFight1 I think the word is used euphemistically to mean what you're saying.

  • @user-td3ut4tg3v
    @user-td3ut4tg3v 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I never thought capitalism would be associated with racism at least not in this way..But really think about it, it might actually be true

  • @alanhansmannkurtcobain8811
    @alanhansmannkurtcobain8811 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great man!

  • @Lavarpsu10
    @Lavarpsu10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you want an exhaustive history/exploration of what Boots is giving us a 101 of in this video, read Stamped From the Beginning. It's an extensive exploration of the history of racist thought in the United States and it supports Boots' argument.

  • @anthonyjohnson6308
    @anthonyjohnson6308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was good. Subscribe! Hope there is more good content like this

  • @MsNooneinparticular
    @MsNooneinparticular 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yep. Slavery was always about economics first; racism was just an ugly byproduct. Slaves were Black and could be easily spotted if they ran away for that reason. And it's continued up to this day with the drug laws and incarceration/13th Amendment, not to mention our poor immigrant farmworkers...some of whom are underage trafficked slaves (literally). Just watched a PBS documentary on this and it's heartbreaking. Capitalism relies on an underclass of dirt poor scapegoats who carry the burden of the wealthy. And it usually happens to be Black, brown and yellow people. It's a pyramid scheme with the Global South and other poor regions carrying the 1% on their backs.

  • @davruck1
    @davruck1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude killed it. great musician

  • @lloydfrancis9149
    @lloydfrancis9149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are very smart cheers

  • @terylmcalaster3443
    @terylmcalaster3443 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow thankful

  • @ornekali
    @ornekali 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Maannn a very big thank you to bring context of class into racism analysis while liberals delibaretely tries to ignore&conceal, and instead take racism in individual level

  • @CarlMickens
    @CarlMickens 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Deep

  • @Left_it
    @Left_it 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    power

  • @felinefokus
    @felinefokus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never subscribe to the term *#poor* broke is a temporary position
    poor is a state of mind

  • @z.s.7992
    @z.s.7992 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Its the same thing with the people at the border. They need help not derision. We need to take some of the resources of the insanely wealthy and help the workers coming here to seek a better life

  • @STATIONMARX
    @STATIONMARX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the strike for translating the video into Russian! Are you serious?

  • @jjonaz79
    @jjonaz79 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Genocide N Juice....94' blue tape. Used to play that shit every morning on the bus on the way to school. KMEL used to to slapp the Fat Cats single. Great times.

  • @zhenlihappy4903
    @zhenlihappy4903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Truth in every word!

  • @jenniferstrausser3184
    @jenniferstrausser3184 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    black and white ,working class unite. down with identity politics .join the socialist party u,s.a capitalism steals the surplus value of labour.

  • @edgm.14
    @edgm.14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    *_Woke King_* 👏🏽🙇🙇🏼‍♂️✊🏽

  • @edgm.14
    @edgm.14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    *Woke king*

  • @MECHANISMUS
    @MECHANISMUS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sane words on vainness of most of today anti-racist rhetorics and actions.

  • @MikeD32784
    @MikeD32784 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does he profit off his works ?

  • @nikleeru
    @nikleeru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    *Yeah bro!* We had no racism in USSR.

    • @hazeulquiorra95
      @hazeulquiorra95 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Nice job missing the point lmao

    • @FunkFight1
      @FunkFight1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The racism in the USSR was there BEFORE 1917 and the remnants stayed around. Many hated Stalin from the beginning because he was from Georgia and many Georgians were considered mixed-race, even considered "black". One of the ideas of "Soviets" was that these regions would have "self-determination" (a phrase many hadnt heard before then), so that they could have tools to fight the racism that existed.

    • @nikleeru
      @nikleeru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FunkFight1 There was NO USSR before 1917. I wrote about USSR, not Russia before or after USSR.

    • @FunkFight1
      @FunkFight1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@nikleeru that is exactly my point. The racism was already there before there was a USSR. So the racism wasnt because of USSR, it was from the system before it. Part of the way the USSR was set up was in order to fight the bigotry that existed before.

    • @nikleeru
      @nikleeru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FunkFight1 It looks like you haven't seen the word *"no"* in my first comment. In Communism people of all races are labour people -- that's the point. The color of your skin didn't matter in USSR.

  • @randomlifts
    @randomlifts 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Higher wages. Wages are part of a cost. If something optimally costs $1.00, part of it goes to the labor. If that cost was $0.05, demanding higher wage say $0.20, the product will cost $1.15 at that point for it. If that business is 1 or 10 in the market, it is no longer competitive. Customers will buy from 9 other competitors. Meaning, the 1 business can possibly die. Most people do not choose based on what's in it for the community. If that was the case, American manufacturing would not have died.
    This is oversimplification but rather than endless arguing, I hope someone sees this point and sticks to constructive criticism.

    • @MysterE95
      @MysterE95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think a fair point is that cost of production for most things actually isn’t even close to what those things end up being sold for. Like there’s products that are made for 1 dollar by some poor kid in the third world, then that product gets sold for 1000 dollars in stores. So the people at the top are taking 99% of the profits for themselves. My point being, they could raise wages, and still keep prices the same. They could just keep a little bit less of the massive profit for themselves, but they’re so excessively greedy they won’t do that.

    • @randomlifts
      @randomlifts 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MysterE95 I'm not sure which product you refer to or speak from experience on costing, running a business and familiar with overhead.

    • @MysterE95
      @MysterE95 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      randomlifts I’m not talking about small businesses, but corporations like Apple and Disney.

    • @randomlifts
      @randomlifts 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MysterE95 for them, the profits are insane and I don't expect any additional personal wealth they accumulate after $X will make any difference.
      It is unfortunate that when many people create trouble, the victims are mom and pop businesses. Big businesses can handle lot more.

    • @TheGuilhermetamara
      @TheGuilhermetamara 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      this is a great argument against capitalism

  • @ultrad27
    @ultrad27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Where's the correlation between capitalism and racism? He didn't even bother to define capitalism.

    • @ultrad27
      @ultrad27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Thought for Food I made my comment after watching the video. How does a free and open market promote slavery?

    • @ultrad27
      @ultrad27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Thought for Food you're just making statements without proof. Free markets simply allows the people to control the market instead of the government. If someone using slave labor under a free market it's because the people allowed it. Your problem is with people not the market itself.

    • @ultrad27
      @ultrad27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Thought for Food you drawing correlations that simply are not present in capitalism. Capitalism is simply private citizens controlling the market instead of government. The government only makes things worse by giving the power create winners and losers in the market to a few people whom have their own special interests. The U.S.A. had never operated under true capitalism.

    • @LaminarSound
      @LaminarSound 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This guy is ignorant AF. Has zero knowledge of actual economics. Capitalism is the antithesis of slavery. By very definition. Free markets, are based on two parties voluntarily commencing in a trade of agreed upon value.

    • @ultrad27
      @ultrad27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Thought for Food government regulation and capitalism don't mix. You're trying make capitalism into someone that it isn't. You can't even explain how free markets have anything to do with slavery.

  • @richjeff8880
    @richjeff8880 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Historical illiteracy is a helluva drug.

    • @dontlookspins
      @dontlookspins 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      An intentional historical illiteracy of the US populace combined with an intense mccarthyist propaganda campaign across every facet of popular media from the 50s to this day is indeed a helluvadrug

  • @jimbell122
    @jimbell122 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I m black and Eastern European look at angola and Poland 2 different countries that imporved after Turing into a capitalist economy

  • @eed1091
    @eed1091 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is the competive mentality!
    In order to succeed people will fight eacht other, the defeated will hate his opponent and stereotype people how look or think similar like his enemy.
    The opposite is communism.
    In order to keep peace everybody is afraid of criticising one another, this will motivate lazy behaviour and undermine creativity.
    Sports are so popular because they combine both elements, there is competition but there are rules and fair play.
    If you ever played a team sports with a black person to achieve victory, you refer him as a friend and maybe even as a brother( because there is no reason to be afraid of him).
    This is the simple nature in every group there will be stereotypes in order to dehumanize the others, the solution is to find an appropriate balance.

  • @JFCotman
    @JFCotman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    By definition, capitalism is simply private ownership of commerce. Blaming it for anything outside of that is false accusation.

    • @jerrynelson5289
      @jerrynelson5289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You are 100% wrong. What system that existed before Capitalism? Answer :

    • @JFCotman
      @JFCotman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jerrynelson5289 sorry, there’s this thing called, “definitions”
      We refer to it before listening to hotep arguments
      www.google.com/search?q=capitalism

    • @jerrynelson5289
      @jerrynelson5289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      in case you might not know, There was a system prior to capitalism call feudalism. very similar to capitalism. Capitalism is a system that based on exploitation of man . period

    • @JFCotman
      @JFCotman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jerrynelson5289 doesn’t matter what it’s based on, only what it is.

    • @FunkFight1
      @FunkFight1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@JFCotman and your definition is incorrect. Capitalism is defined by the exploitation of labor.

  • @soulfuzz368
    @soulfuzz368 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I can't think of one civilization that succeeded without stealing in one form or another. Full points if you can name one!

    • @jenniferstrausser3184
      @jenniferstrausser3184 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      moron above

    • @jenniferstrausser3184
      @jenniferstrausser3184 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      define succeeding

    • @iamcpiszel
      @iamcpiszel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Timbuktu

    • @rp1455
      @rp1455 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Yes it is true that most civilisations have stolen from each other at some point. That doesn't mean that stealing is necessary to have a successful civilisation. Does this mean we continue to steal from each other in to the future? No. We move on as a species to become more sensible, less primitive, less motivated by greed and self-interest and more aware of what would be for the collective benefit for humanity. That should be the plan anyway.

    • @QkF3t86
      @QkF3t86 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even though it'll all be open source one day the descedants of those fellas from 1492 1860-65' & 1776 will reap exponentially what they've sown positive and negative

  • @seanrodriguez3413
    @seanrodriguez3413 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There is no stealing. Country's get conquered and the land becomes the victors. This is the nature of conflicts. And the slaves weren't stolen, they were sold by other African tribes to the Europeans.

    • @johnsutherland5845
      @johnsutherland5845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So, if I invade someone’s house and take all their property it’s not stealing, it’s conquering and that makes it okay. Gotcha.

    • @Sassafrass-qh8po
      @Sassafrass-qh8po ปีที่แล้ว

      So because Europeans *bought* African people instead of kidnapping them, that makes it ok? It’s human trafficking regardless

  • @Zenonbuster
    @Zenonbuster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Y’all need to check out Thomas Sowell. This guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about

    • @roberthoffenheim7861
      @roberthoffenheim7861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You mean the traitor

    • @Zenonbuster
      @Zenonbuster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@roberthoffenheim7861 could you use the race appropriate term?

    • @michaelf.4290
      @michaelf.4290 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thomas Sowell is an economist for the elites

    • @_Fountain
      @_Fountain 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sowell is a typical black conservative. He hates anything that might point towards structural explanantions of racism and inequality.
      Why would he seriously consider the relationship between racism and capitalism when he profits from ignoring it?

  • @jasonsilex8375
    @jasonsilex8375 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do socialists assume there's no racism in non capitalist countries?

  • @illapuproductions
    @illapuproductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This dude clearly doesnt know economics lol

  • @intouchedsimplified8802
    @intouchedsimplified8802 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mmmm wow this guy is misguided abit. As long as we think we are in property because of racism we holding ourselves down. Learning financial foundations can help ijs. Not all rich people are white these days.

    • @FunkFight1
      @FunkFight1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      of the 1% in the US- 99.9% of them are white. Don't let TV fool you.

    • @michaelmappin1830
      @michaelmappin1830 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      both racism and capitalism contribute to poverty. Under capitalism workers are exploited by employers. statistically speaking, people of colour are exploited more.

    • @intouchedsimplified8802
      @intouchedsimplified8802 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelmappin1830 I disagree racsim nor capitalism do this. A lack of knowledge and ambition does that. Most people can make money only a few can manage it to its best ability. This takes books 📚 and creativity.

  • @TheChunkyluver53
    @TheChunkyluver53 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You want your socialist paradise Venezuela seems nice 😂

    • @michaelmappin1830
      @michaelmappin1830 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What does Venezuela have to do with the argument? Are you assuming that we have to have capitalism and exploitation oh, because any alternative would result in Venezuela? Is that the argument you're trying to make?

  • @damianbylightning6823
    @damianbylightning6823 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great comedy channel.
    He's about as well-informed as your average historian. LOL!

  • @TheChunkyluver53
    @TheChunkyluver53 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If no gets fired they get lazy

  • @gocelinedion
    @gocelinedion 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    With capitalism, everybody has the opportunity to succeed regardless of race- look at how many black businesses have been able to flourish and how the levels of minority poverty in the states is far less than in those in their countries that do not have capitalism

    • @zacharyweaver3508
      @zacharyweaver3508 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Flourishing black businesses? What planet are you on?

    • @gocelinedion
      @gocelinedion 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Zachary Weaver it’s up to the businesses to make products that the collective whole of society wants. You can’t blame business failure automatically for racism

    • @gnarlyb
      @gnarlyb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      that's not true luck plays a huge part in success under capitalism. also one's willingness to cut corners and be generally amoral. man when will people stop defending fucking capitalism.

    • @JK-gu3tl
      @JK-gu3tl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zacharyweaver3508 Africa?

    • @RichKilla86ers
      @RichKilla86ers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gnarlyb when will people start fucking research political history and consequences instead relying on celebrity activists?

  • @pewpewpow4681
    @pewpewpow4681 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Interesting thought concept. But, half baked support and arguments. Not really a clear point being made. He’s borrowing ideas from all over the place to paint his own picture.

    • @CrabtechIndustries
      @CrabtechIndustries 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      "He’s borrowing ideas from all over the place to paint his own picture." that's called having your own ideas, dipshit

    • @yeaaboiii3002
      @yeaaboiii3002 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      To you no point was made. To YOU lol I got the point and the message.

    • @Kanelel
      @Kanelel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      YEAA BOIII Some people just have absolutely no class-consciousness, so any class-based analysis just flies right over their head. When you've totally swallowed the non-systemic, atomized worldview of the capitalists, anything outside of that is simply incomprehensible.

    • @FunkFight1
      @FunkFight1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The arguments are pretty thoroughly baked.
      Borrowing ideas from all over the place to paint your own picture is what's called thought and theory.
      There is no place for footnotes in an interview- what interviews do you know that do that? so it's not like his words are going to link you to articles, but rest assured that there are many, easily findable, places to read all of this. Just Google the history of the theory of race and you'll find a gang of books and articles with all the footnotes you want.

  • @TheRulerRoderickSutton
    @TheRulerRoderickSutton 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Studies Karl Marx, reads the “Communist Manifesto” and now believes that he understands how economies work, and the history of capitalism...y’all gotta do y’all own homework...

    • @FunkFight1
      @FunkFight1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Boots Riley has done more than just that. And I have done my own homework. Boots is correct.

  • @user-xz4cl9ms3n
    @user-xz4cl9ms3n 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you really think this clip is useful,you need help.