Xbox's Exclusive Problem: Destin Reacts to Ardrid
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- Xbox's Exclusive Problem has been a conversation I keep seeing come up, time and time again. It seems like The Xbox exclusive games list was stronger when they started out than it is today and a lot of discussions have sprung up through the years about that topic. This video today is from Ardrid who dives a bit deeper into the topic.
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this video is about more xbox tax existence evidence? 😁
Thanks a lot for your video! You could react to more Videos about the history of video games and Game franchises!
I think an IGN employee with front-row seats to Xbox’s many failures over the years shouldn’t be so acutely biased.
You think that Ardid did a great and thoughtful job? All I heard was more misleading information and more Xbox hate simply regurgitated and rewrapped in a new shiny package from yet another bias content creator. It's absolutely frustrating the tactics and lengths these fanboys will go to when it comes to Xbox. Gamepass is making hundreds of millions a month to offer its customer more games at better value but that's considered unsustainable? I actually wanna play more then just FIFA, CoD, 2K and Fortnite. In other words I don't consider myself a casual gamer. I actually like having a backlog of games to play, especially during a gaming draught.
Playstation burns through hundreds of millions for one niche game with low replayability then scrambles to break even and that's a better strategy then what Xbox is doing? I don't care about graphics as much as I care about having fun on any game and Playstation isn't the place that focuses on fun first outside of third-party games.
No, I won't be checking his channel out. It's obvious who he made that video for. The Xbox Tax is real Destin.
Its amazing how the media and ponys cant handle xbox having all these exclusives 🤣😂😂🤣😂🤣
Xbox 360 was the first console I actually owned and nothing will ever beat that generation for me. I still remember sitting in front of a big ass box TV playing Saints row and Tony hawks proving ground all day.
Games were just different back then.
Gaming died in 2013
Had the deadlift tv til the 2nd year of xbox one era. Miss that giant
AMEN I agree 😀
Damn you missed out on the n64 playstation era
I agree greed took over in 2013
I think Microsoft just realized sooner than Sony that the industry was moving to 5-7-year development cycles for AAA games which means you need 20-28 studios making first party games to have a first party release every fiscal quarter. And that's assuming that every game in development actually releases. In reality, you probably need over 30 studios to be able to actually pull off a game every quarter in this new AAA environment. Sony is starting to run into this reality and really slowing down on releases right as Microsoft's major investment in studios in the late 2010s is finally starting to result in releases. I imagine the rest of this decade is going to have far more Xbox releases than PlayStation. Now, the quality of those games definitely needs to come up a bit, but the reality of development time is on Xbox's side moving forward.
Why release a AAA sequel when you can re-re-re-remaster a game? 😢
Starfield fiasco took 7 years LOL, Very "AAA"
@@psychopoison and you people can't stop talking about it. mission accomplished.
@@p.ukem0n327No cap. Even without Mods and dlc (so vanilla Skyrim released on the 360), it's the most talked about game, its top 10 in sales, over 80 score in reviews, and boosted GP greatly. Definitely a success
The insomniac leak costs and profits really shows this a lot. This is a content problem in general. We see it in Netflix and streaming and even in movies now. All the top producing companies are only able to pump money into big budget content but that's really hurting margins. Everything is given a shorter production amount of episodes, wait times between movies and shows are getting longer, most of what we see are franchise and ideas people are tired of, and so on. There aren't many new quality ideas anymore. It's the same issue in gaming. Insomniac has gone from Ratchet and Clank (my favorite PS game) and sunset overdrive to being a Marvel dev studio. AAA publishers are only able to make licensed games and established franchises. And deadlines keep getting tighter forcing rushed games. Sony still produces great high quality games but not nearly as many anymore in terms of first party. I'd really love someone to list all the first party Xbox games vs Playstation games this year.
Xbox has a MUCH better mix already of AA and AAA games and live service and traditional games. As well as all the studios and publishers to really advance this strategy. Sony's going to have to really revisit their strategy soon. They were supposed to get out a lot of live service games to take the pressure off their high quality AAA games which take longer and have razor thin margins. Now with Jim Ryan leaving they look to be doing a LOT of downsizing which mort of the industry is right now, but doesn't bode well if they don't change strategies because game development costs and time is still rising.
I had Sega channel as a kid. It was the game pass if it’s day and was absolutely incredible. They were so far ahead of their time. Hardly anyone remembers this. 50 Sega games rotating every month. Even had a cheat code room that would just scroll codes for the games available.
Loved my Dreamcast & sending saves to my email account etc (have the broadband adapter). I always thought of the original Xbox as the Dreamcast successor. Love seeing them work together.
Thats dope you got to experience that.
That died 😂
@@fabolousjada5070thanks captain obvious. That’s usually what “ahead of its time” implies… jackass
@@lilpimp994 I remember the Sega Channel. Blew my mind at the time, and there was no way I could even explain what it was to my Mom.
Ghost of Tsushima 83 Metacritic: gets treated as a 93.
Starfield 83 Metacritic: gets treated like a 73.
Now that Starfield’s 86 Metacritic is a failure is it fair to label every upcoming PlayStation exclusive that scores less than an 86 as a failure?
To be fair anything over a 70 is generous for starfield
@@Youraveragegamer_97that's like your opinion man
Not to start anything but I don't think anyone was calling Ghost of Tsushima the game of the generation before it released. Starfield had so much hype behind it that it suffered from not meeting such crazy expectations. People were anticipating Tsushima but nowhere on the level of Starfield. You can tell from the user scores on metacritic that Starfield was propped up to a level it couldn't reach and caused disappointment even though I think it is a good game
@@Sand_1995that's actually the majority's problem.
Starfield 7.0 user score
Ghost 9.1 user score
Sounds like the users are the ones saying Starfield don’t deserve to be treated like an 83…then you also have to ignore the Steam user scores and the XBox store user scores…oh that’s right those are just haters bombing the game
Splinter Cell was exclusive to Xbox for a while, then they ported it over to PlayStation 2 and GameCube. It wad trash on those systems because it couldn't hold the lighting and graphics the xbox performed
This is something the original video fails to mention. Yes every game was ported to ps2 simply because it has a large user base.
However these ports were often butchered and gimped due to the PlayStation being under powered. And the games would run better on Xbox and PC.
Even GTA sanandreas looks like trash on ps2. Textures aren’t good and the game if covered in orange smoke due to the low draw distance. Meanwhile on pc and Xbox it looks like an entirely different game. San Andreas is the most popular game on the most popular console and that version of the game is the worst version of it
I remember the exclusive logo. Play it played like trash on PS2 compared to Xbox. People fail to recognize that all the cross-platform games ran waaay better than on PS2.
Bro, some original xboxes had an empty slot for video memory, if you got one of those and found a compatible memory chip, you could upgrade it... My friend did it and it was amazing, the games look even more beautiful! If my memory serves me correctly, it was a 124 MB chip and when upgraded, it went to 256 MB of video... Today that's nothing, but at the time it was amazing... lol
@@hackjuniordf that is friggin amazing. The Xbox was really like alien technology. Lol remember the startup screen? Even simply setting the time and stuff seemed like a whole new experience. What an exciting console.
10:30 you’re wrong.
Xbox didn’t purchase Halo from Bungie. When they acquired Bungie they also got the upcoming Halo IP.
A lot of people think Xbox bought the Halo IP in 2010 and that’s false as Martin O'Donnell has explained many times on his podcast with Act Man and others. However they did buy the Gears of War IP from Epic Games in 2014 after Epic Games didn’t know what to do with it going forward.
The "xbox excusive problem" argument is always tailored to a swing down at MSFT... They ALWAYS fail to mention multiple exclusives to fit their narrative.
Also spreading blantant misinformation, like how they said the OG xbox came in 3rd place whenn it outsold the gamecube.
I do have to acknowledge the hypocrisy towards Xbox. All the discussion about Blade being an exclusive. Why wouldn’t it be an Xbox exclusive? How incompetent would they be to not make this exclusive? Xbox should make all their shit exclusive. Forget what anybody thinks or what articles are written. Nonsense.
@@mistadopeman Nice idea, but you'll alienate a lot of developers by restricting their games to a single platform. Ideally developers like to release on PC, PS and Xbox to maximize sales. Maybe Nintendo as well, but the extra cost involved in could make that unrealistic to profit from.
It would be a big failure for Microsoft with few title available for it. Developers don't like to be controlled to that extent. They prefer options.
You're not an Xbox fanboy by any chance?
@louiepikmin3184 that video had so much wrong info. It was beating the GameCube and I own a GameCube
@@Roger-ic7sf I have an Xbox, PS5 and a PC that destroys both of them put together. I’m not very impressed with the consoles so far. I’ve been a bigger PlayStation fan than an Xbox fan my entire life pretty much. But the hypocrisy is insane. If Sony were the ones buying Activision, none of that stuff would’ve happened and the CMA wouldn’t have been up in arms like they were towards Xbox. I wholeheartedly believe that to be true at this point. They literally ran defense for Sony. I understand the profitability point you’re making. You are correct.
The thing that people don't remember about the end of the Mattrick era was that there were industry rumors of console gaming dying... Mattrick positioned Xbox to avoid that, but it was 100% wrong. Mattrick and Terry Meyerson (head of the Windows group which Xbox were under) started cutting down the investment in Xbox as a brand so things suffered.
wow you said a bunch of things wrong lol@silverjoystix4696
@silverjoystix4696no he’s right. In 2013 there was this narrative in the industry that console gaming was dying with the rise of Mobile/Tablet gaming and had a lot of publishers and CEOs weary about the future of the console market. It’s the reason why Xbox tried to pivot more towards a media device in the first place since they didn’t have faith in console gaming like Sony and Nintendo which led to XBones reveal being all about TV first, games second. Shawn Layden from PlayStation even talked about during an interview saying they had to convince publishers and developers that console gaming was here to stay. Turned out he was right on.
It's a bit odd that he acts like Sony was a life-long industry veteran when MS came into the console market...
The PS1 was extremely successful, but that was Sony's first & only gen at that point, with a very limited lineup of internally developed, first-party games.
The XB 1st console outselling Nintendo's 4th console was impressive, no matter how you look at it.
Sony made electronics for other gaming companies, CD-ROM, sound chips, processors etc. so in a way they WERE in the gaming circle just not the way you're thinking.
@adrianhosein7698 I still think it checks out, because they weren't an actual industry player other than software publishing and designing hardware components used in other systems.
Love when he said the original Xbox came in 3rd yet sold 3 mil more than Nintendo
what makes a console to win? I thought it was total units sold lol, now the narrative is games 😂😂
On the flip side to this nintendo was still making profit but microsoft lost billions during that time
I have always thought of the GC coming in 3rd.
When he talked about Phil Spencer taking over and buying companies up he skipped over where he pushed for backwards compatibility and how that added so many games to xbox. Now on a series x I can play some of the great original xbox and 360 games still.
Yeah back compat imho saved MS/XBOX in a big way
It kept a lot of xbox gamers from jumping ship - keep playing your existing huge library. Keep on the eco system.
It was mega publicised at the time that Sony were reticent to do it..yet buckled under pressure.
It seems like the guy Destin was covering was a PS fanboy. Make no mistake about it, he Omitted Xbox games for a really good reason.
He also loved to downplay Nintendo, only saying positives when it meant he could shit on xbox
It seems ponyboys are making documentary to appease their frustration.
That's why we should boycott Destin, I don't listen to his videos,I only read what you guys comments. He is really PS fanboy. Don't trust that guy.
He also ignored the years of PC games Microsoft had been involved in as well, and solely focused on consoles. That's a very narrow way to observe the market in general when it's been much wider than that since the days of the game crash of '83.
@@OriginsDragon Destin? Ps fanboy???
I don't know man. The reason I bought an original xbox back in the day was because of their exclusives like Morrowind and KOTOR. And the reason I bought a series x instead of ps5 is because I still like their exclusives better, personally. I love Halo, Bethesda, Obsidian, etc. The only games that are PS exclusive that I would like to play are the spiderman games and I'm not buying another console for one or two games. It's all a matter of what you like.
I have a ps5… its dry. Im on gamepass way more
@@b3at2and I have an series X and play more on the PS5 FF15 and GOW rn
@@damiannicholas3413 Wow props, I play on PC normally Warframe and any Gamepass exclusive release and an indie here or there. It must be sad only having 2 titles.
Yup same and 3rd party games looked better on Xbox compared to the PlayStation 2. That’s why I bought it, plus you could actually watch dvd’s on the Xbox and the disc drive didn’t fail on you. Man… I can’t describe how awful it was at the time to buy new games for my PS2 at the time only to discover my new game won’t run in the console.
I had two PS2 consoles that encountered faulty disc drives. The original Xbox was vastly superior hardware wise and in my opinion software wise to the PS2.
same. I'v become bored of the third person open world formulae. Every game (nearly) is following that now. I nearly got Spider-man 2 but decided to upgrade 1 for a fiver instead and am glad i did as it reminded me that i am so bored of the format. No denying the quality but it is so tired.@@b3at2
His argument is exactly what Sony did with the first Playstation 🤷🏾♂️
I know right. You think only Microsoft but any kind of exclusives!! Just a long winded video to say Xbox paid for games and game pass isn't that great. Same arguments we always hear. For Xbox to be in last place Playstation fan boys love talking about Xbox.
Nintendo fans talk about Nintendo games, Xbox fans talk about Xbox games, Playstation fans talk about everything but Playstation games!! Especially in 2023!!
Props for how respectful you were to the guy who's video you reacted to - even while disagreeing with some of their points. It's nice to see and is becoming increasingly rare these days.
Yeah I would have torn the guy a new asshole because he sounds like he was born yesterday and wasn't even alive until this last generation.
Microsoft has this really bad habit of seeing the future 10 years in advance when no one wants it... and then giving up 5 years later when they've moved no units. It happened with the Zune (they had a music subscription before Spotify). It happened with the Windows Phone. And it happened with the Xbox One (consoles now launch as $500 without the connect and have a BIG entertainment push with streaming). Microsoft has always had and still has a marketing problem. Even then people don't really appreciate how much of an uphill battle Xbox has always had within Microsoft. For the longest they didn't even get full support from all the gaming studios and IP at Microsoft (windows gaming was treated as separate). It's only this generation we're seeing Microsoft PC games on Xbox (Flight Simulator, Age of Empires). Xbox was fighting Sony and Nintendo with significantly less experience and funding and studios. It's ridiculous to see people complaining about Microsoft buying studios when Xbox started with a fraction of the studios and IPs Sony and Nintendo had. Plus Phil had to fight to prove gaming and Xbox were WORTH the support from Microsoft when Microsoft wanted to cut the division entirely. Nowadays, I wish Xbox got more credit for it's variety. Especially now with the studios and publishers purchased. 2023 shows a great mix of AA and AAA games across so many genres and game strategies.
Xbox is complete shit at managing and fostering talent. It doesn't matter how many studios they buy because they'll come out underwhelming as usual
@@TheLWebb100So all companies ever, classic console people, just get a PC. Also suck my cucumber Hi Fi Rush and Starfield were really good experiences, yall dedicate to thinking about jumping from the roof top and Ill continue enjoying my time.
@@TheLWebb100 Like the underwhelming poor selling Sony movie simulator crap fests with no gameplay.
Movie.. QTE.. One damn more movie. QTE. Button mashing. Movie, Button mashing, QTE, Movie, Movie, QTE.
There is no damn gameplay in any Sony game.
@@V3ntilator All lies.
I remember when Xbox One had Snap An App, so you could watch videos whilst playing games on the same screen, and it also had an extra HDMI so you could plug other consoles into it and play other consoles whilst still in a party. Wish they kept those features
Nobody talks about quantum break, but that’s an amazing Xbox exclusive. One of my favorite games ever
Ummm that was half movie, half game, it was just ok lmaooo now Mass Effect trilogy, THAT was something.
keep That same energy.
It’s on pc too.
I'll never forget the x1 reveal. I along with everyone else was like WTF is this shit?! God, it was so bad. Don Mattrick almost killed xbox and it took about 10 years to reverse course. If MS didn't have the $$ they have Xbox would have been history..
Alanah hit the nail on the head with one of her recent videos, most of these content creators are just making grift videos, videos that get negative reactions, and the work around how the frase things, rather than "xbox is selling less but doing well" its "xbox is CRASHING, FAILING, DONE" and it further fuels the console wars, Grifting gets you views, views gets money
This guy should be a marketing VP for Sony, cause he knows how to spin and word things to make it history look a certain way to push the ideas and views he wants.
Wouldn’t be surprised if it was funded by Sony either 😂
To be fair though every generation Microsoft has been 3rd place 🤷♂️
@@llfallen0nell884 Do some homework.
15:40 "Leaving Microsoft in last place...." Bro shows a show where Xbox literally sold more than the GameCube 🤦♂ This video is intentionally made to mislead folk. Like, how can they be last, when they sold more?
Brooo!! I am definitely looking forward to your 3 videos a day!!!💪🏽👍🏽
I think Don Mattrick is the reason Geoff has a bias against Xbox. Don told him with the straightest of faces, "cant connect? Sux but at least you got a 360!"
Funny how they just released the most played games by country for PS and not one of the top three was a Sony exclusive in any country. You need more than a few exclusives to get me to buy a console, and these companies are only leaving money on the table by being exclusive. That’s what MS has figured out except for a few big titles,put all their titles on as many platforms as possible. Get the ponies to subsidize them.
"PlayStation 1 didnt have a ton of amazing games." - Destin L They should put that everywhere because its fucking crazy lol
Only got up to 7th Gen part of the video so far, but the guy's trying to rewrite history to fit his narrative. 360 came out a year before PS3 and Wii and was successful before they "failed".
The Don Matrick comment about having the 360 for people who couldn't have connectivity was in response to a question asked by a service member who served on submarines and wanted to know if he would be able to play the new Xbox on his submarine. What. A. Facepalm.
Yes a bit of a blunder but tbf it was his job to sell the new console at the time (Xbox one) so he was just trying to push ppl into the next generation
Netflix makes bank.
Revenue 2022: $31.6 Billion
Gross Profit 2022: $12.447 Billion
Market Cap: $205.05 Billion
They don't sell any movies or shows.
Game Pass has the advantage of having more revenue streams;
Subscription fees, game sales, MTX, seasons pass, expansion packs. 3rd party game sales.
The PS1 relied almost exclusively on 3rd party support. The rub is that those 3rd party games weren’t released on other platforms. Crash, MGS, Spyro? Sony didn’t own any of those IPs. The only stuff they made in house was Grand Turismo.
Fusion Frenzy was fun as hell!!!! That was on xbox only also.
Splinter Cell was originally an Xbox exclusive. The guy who did that video really overlooked so many games and seems like he had started his own biased conclusion then made a video in a way to support it
Let's be real: at this point, MS has purchased most of the major IPs in the last few years... so, no, it DOES NOT have an exclusive problem.
What they have is a slow rollout problem. We won't see new games with those IPs for a while, because games take forever to make. MS is playing the very long-game, which won't likely start for another 3-5 years.
In the near-term, they'll continue to make multi-platform games easily accessible on the Series S, X, and cloud.
Sony isn't doing much better in the near-term, with only a few big exclusives being drip-fed for now.
You’re right, but I don’t think it will take 3-5 years. I think it will start in 2024. 2024 is stacked for Xbox, with the amount of games that have been in the pipeline, I’m sure 2025 and 2026 will be too, although only time will tell
Correct … what I find hilarious though is people keep asking where the games are at without doing their homework as to why it’s taking Xbox so long and also forget it takes years to make games these days 🤦 Xbox has pretty much had to start rebuilding from the ground up. They had hardly any studios and were ready to call it a day at one point.
I feel like the engines have been fired up though and the train won’t take too much longer to hit full speed.
@Ktsjay187 I hope you're right, but I'm not holding my breath. I figure it'll be a good few years before we see a new Doom, Wolfenstein, Fallout, Halo, Xbox-exclusive Call of Duty, or any other established IP hit the shelves.
In the meantime, I'm just going to try and enjoy the what comes out and maybe nab a PS5 on the cheap, when the opportunity presents itself.
@Captain-Chats yeah, it's actually very disappointing the way that they seemingly mismanaged their portfolio of IPs (Halo, in particular) and squandered so much of the momentum they had, coming out of the Xbox 360 era.
I sincerely hope they don't mismanage the goldmine of IPs they now own, much the way Disney has, over the last decade.
@@TheUballe yeah those games will take a while to come out, but in the meantime we will have plenty of new ip, then those already established games will start to roll out
The guy throughout the video had so many factual errors all to fit the story he was trying to say. Saying Xbox was last but showing it had sold more than Gamecube but him having a disclaimer as why it doesn't count and Obsidian Ent & Inixile were announced at XO not E3 2018 as he states are just a few.
This guy reacting also had numerus factual errors.
You know looking at this video is kinda of funny when you realize that the studio xbox has bought were the ones they had relationships with during the xbox generation.
Blockbuster really helped Sony, if you remember the other consoles had small sections & Sony had like half/full isle. I believe they held Sony picture movies hostage for more space. Would love to know.
PS2 had more games than any other console
@@jacobross735That’s because the user base for PlayStation was so big. And the user base was so big because of the movie industry and PlayStation being used a DVD player.
DVD players were expensive back then and sometimes a whole PS2 would be cheaper than some DVD players. So a lot of consumers would just pick up a PlayStation 2
Yea they definitely were promoted more by blockbuster and while I dont recall it wouldn't surprise me. Sony has always been that way
I do remember Blockbuster and other game stores had Sony at eye level while Xbox was at the back
You could say that early Nintendo and Sony had a market monopoly. The only reason why Japanese game companies get away with so much is that they're not tied to the same rules and regs as American companies. Com'on fanboys -- wake up! I wish armchair idiots would realize that Sony bought and relied on what were initially third-party companies to make their games (Insomniac, Guerrilla Games, Naughty Dog, Bungie...). They haven't bought more Japanese game studios because there is a gentleman's agreement that they'll support Japanese hardware giants first. Anyone with skin in the game knew that Japanese studios were notorious for producing top-shelf products (color manuals, CD art, and content) and giving U.S. and PAL budget-tier stock.
There's no gaming without the U.S. market. FULL STOP. However, Sony fanboys are so threatened by Microsoft. Sony's silent monopoly is exactly why companies like EA, Activision, and Ubisoft were able to get away with so much garbage for as long as they did.
Nobody is worried about Xbox. If they ever outsell and out market Sony then gaming will be dead. Microsoft have no soul in their games. DEI in the United States will continue to hurt western companies because people are tired of that nonsense. Disney is learning this the hard way.
People always seem to conveniently forget the price of blu-ray players at the time the ps3 came out.
To make a small correction at 35:20, an Xbox Kinect was 100% required in order to use the Xbox One. They dropped that requirement later since the implementation contributed to their massive plummet in sales, but yep, it was definitely required when it released.
Subscription services are fine, but I like to be able to grab a game off my shelf and play it when I want, and not worry about it being removed from either, game pass, or PlayStation plus.
I think this guy doesn't understand that billions to Microsoft is like millions to Sony.
He's missed the fact that one is a trillion dollar company. The other is a 100 - or so billion dollar company.
Wow, an hour plus of content from Destin, this is great.
Now let's all ask him to react to the 4 hour video from hbomberguy about plagiarism 😂
I've watched that video.
No way lol.
Actually, Ardid is wrong about the first Xbox being in last place in its console generation; it actually beat out the GameCube by some millions of units (you can especially see this evidently shown in the transition sequence at 15:44). While the GameCube definitely put up a fight with the other 2 competitors, it ended up being the first Nintendo system to be outsold by a Microsoft console in a respective generation.
Item: I'm actually shocked he didn't mention the IBM Cell broadband processor. Lots of 3rd party game companies, namely Valve, were NOT fans of that processor. Cell was so disliked that it's likely the biggest reason Apple switched to Intel processors around that time for its computers.
The reasons I bought the OG Xbox were for Obi Wan and Morrowind. Then happy I had it because of Splinter cell. It wasn't until a year after I bought it did I buy Halo and fell in love with it. I was an Xbox fan through the 360 life span. I went to PC when One was ready for release because Halo 5 wasn't going to have couch co-op.
Original Xbox had a bunch of well known exclusive games, release in the first few years, besides just HALO. They had games like Project Gotham Racing, Elder Scrolls 3, Crazy Taxi, Steel Battalion, Panzer Dragoon, and Counter Strike, just to name a few. They even had the one game that every teenage boy wanted to "play". Dead or Alive Beach Volleyball. Plus they had all the same non exclusive 3rd party games, that Sony had. XBOX may not have had any 1st party studios when they first started, but an exclusive 3rd party game, is still an exclusive. But all the same Ponies that have been complaining that 3rd party XBOX exclusives don't count, are now bragging how Final Fantasy and Silent Hill 2 remakes are PS5 exclusives, while being completely oblivious to their hypocrisy.
59:21 Agree with Destin 100%, same for the discussion of the funding of exclusives. The guy in the video is a bit too dramatic in my opinion. And at 1:05:30 he's hilarious (not hating, he is really good but some takes are a bit forced in negativity)
How did you get that far in already?
@@DestinL Great question 😅😂 I already saw the original video, so I was curious of your take on the final part where I didn't quite agree with the guy, but I'll watch it from start to finish tomorrow (in Italy now its 00:17 so I'm going to bed). Maybe next time I'll wait a bit before commenting, my bad 😅
He is good at talking. Not at being correct about gaming.
Dude they have bought way more than 3 studios Dustin. Damn man where have you been look it up.
Dreamcast was ahead of its time it also played music CDs
And used Microsoft CE 😉
so did the ps1
@@AnarickTheDevil true but overall potential of machine with added Internet was on another level
One thing I'm curious about - despite owning Bethesda and ABK, do we think that there's a "brand association" problem with xbox and these acquired publishers?
Part of me imagines that it'll just take time for Xbox to become synonymous with e.g. Fallout, Call of Duty, Spyro/Crash(?) etc - in the same way that Mario is synonymous with Nintendo, or Kratos with Playstation.
But then look at Minecraft - kept fairly independent, that franchise seems to lack an association with Xbox. Does Phil plan to maintain the independence of Bethesda/ABK, and if so, will this impact xbox's brand association with these publishers?
It's something I've mused whenever people mention that Xbox "has no exclusives" - which isn't true. Is this more a perception problem than anything else?
Just like construction.
You do a good job few people hear about it
You do a bad job everybody knows it .😮
Nobody outside of the very small portion of the gaming community on Twitter.
It's not so much brand association, it's the entitlement from Sony fans. If it's not released on PlayStation its instantly a flop and crap game. If it is released on PlayStation its a L for Xbox because it's now not exclusive. Xbox has a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario.
I have to say that 2024 is going to be full of Xbox exclusives and holy shit I can't wait for 2024 Xbox exclusives.😊
Games take six years to make now.
@@neilwilson5785 true but I'm actually liking what I'm seeing including the games that will come to Game Pass including third party.
@@jurassictyrantkingYTbro stop it senua is not hyped it got like 70k views in that first week. And what else ya got ? Lol
@@jurassictyrantkingYTrelax STARFIELD AND REDFALL HAVE LET ME DOWN Im not getting my hopes up no more
@@fabolousjada5070hellblade, avowed, stalker 2, towerborne, clockwork revolution, south of midnight, flight sim 24, forza horizon 6? + starfield expansion since ponies like to include dlc
I agree with your point.. as a kid when the Xbox and PS2 and GameCube came out it absolutely felt like they were all on equal footing. People liked the PS1 but I didn't have friends who had it, they all had N 64's. We all hit 6th grad/middle school and all three consoles felt like they had equal footing with each other. Especially with the popularity of FPS games taking off on console, that was the only type of game a lot of my friends played and they wanted Xbox for that exact reason. More accessible M rated shooters that their parents would buy. Also everybody makes this big deal about exclusives but back then HALO.. WAS the exclusive.
WELL SAID BRO ALL FAKTZ
ps2 had launched earlier and was already miles ahead when xbox launched though.
That's funny since the PS1 sold 3x as many consoles as the N64.
@@KernowFishythe whole point of my comment was talking about the perception of the systems as a kid. I clearly say that.
@@judah_macabethat’s world wide I’m sure it’s closer in the states.
Xbox needs new IPs like Blade and Indiana jones along with new original projects.
I remember Xbox started resting on their laurels after 2009, which gave PS a chance to shine with a slew of new releases and coupled with lower PS3 prices and some bad PR from the 360's RRoD, allowed them to catch up and edge out Xbox 360.
The only reason why i got an Xbox. Dreamcast knew it was dying, even the Official Dreamcast Magazine gave out big hints too. There was some snippet about some of the lead designers moving from Dreamcast to Xbox. Also, ODCM talked about JSRF being on the xbox as well. Like my 10 year old mind could only hold so much.
this may come off as an unpopular opinion, but exclusive really have not mattered since like the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 2 generations. Maybe just the PlayStation 2 and original Xbox generation is nowadays people buy consuls for the simplicity and the convenience of them. The only people that still dance around exclusives are big gamers the more people who game now are casuals.
I could be wrong I'm pretty sure that Bethesda has there own monthly subscribers for 76 and ESO
I just have to make this one comment. It’s the one thing we all overlook when it comes to Xbox but pick any generation for the Xbox and they were spot on when it came to one thing and it’s the one thing everybody embraced. Technology. Microsoft has accurately predicted what we wanted from technology, every single generation, even the one generation where we think they failed miserably. Look at the system they dropped. They gave us MP like we never dreamed. They brought us back to the old golden eye 007 days. Remember you could drag for TVs for Xbox is all into a room and play together. It was cumbersome. It was a pain in the butt. We did it in college but they showed you you could game with your friends. What happened the next generation, the Xbox 360 generation that gave you Internet so you can play with your friends even more. Not that Sony didn’t eventually come with the Internet, but they were late to the party. Now let someone try and sell you a system without Internet you laugh at them. Look, we laughed at Nintendo when they said all we don’t really have great Internet for the system. Go back to the Xbox One press conference yeah, you know the one. The one where they talking about television and gaming combining everything together when it’s more of about TV than actually playing on your platform of choice. We hated it. How much time do you spend watching movies and TV on your game system again? For most gamers out there it’s where we go when we turn on Netflix or Hulu or any other streaming platform that’s where we go first. People don’t give Microsoft credit every generation. They have literally shown the people what they wanted sometimes before they even realized what they wanted, but they were spot on. This generation what has Microsoft shown us to be the potential future two things they said hey look at this cloud in the sky and they said would you like to subscribe? People don’t think this is the future but guess what gaming consoles have saturated the market. There aren’t many more people out there to sell a system too no matter how big your company is they’re only so many people who are going to give you $500 for you need to sell games to more people games are more expensive than ever. How do you sell them to more people you have to go to them where they are. Who’s built the infrastructure to go to them where they are, it’s not Nintendo it’s not Sony. You can argue Sony tried streaming video games which they did but they had horrible infrastructure. Microsoft actually has the knowledge and the know how to build that infrastructure and they have one thing that both their competitors don’t have they have money and it takes money to build a subscription based infrastructure. Don’t ask me don’t take my word for it go ask how much money it took to build a subscription based in structure. The competitors Netflix has they have money, and they had to use every dime of it to build a decent subscription based infrastructure. All of Netflix competitors that are crashing and burning right now, they didn’t put enough money into building that infrastructure.
Failed to mention Forza, Gears of War, Ninja Gaiden, Project Gotham Racing, Fable, KOTOR!!!… + Xbox brought Achievements, Mid-Gen Console Dashboard Updates, Gamepass…
All they have to do is get 72 different studios. Each studio gets 6 years to make a game, and gamepass gets a new game every month.
Remember Dustin was caught in 4K with Xbox tax live
People genuinely do not understand xbox's strategy still and it's so fucking simple 😂
i think that the "problem" with Xbox exclusives is, that they acquire franchises when they are way passed their peak/prime moment.
The same with studios.
Nobody cares about Spyro and Crash anymore. Sea of Thieves is ok, but RARE in its prime was during the N64 days. More people hate Activision/Blizzard now than ten years ago. More people lost faith in Bathesda now than 10 years ago etc etc.
While people love studios like Insomniac, guerilla and Santa Monica more today than 10 years ago
There's an exclusives problem? Nah dude, Microsoft is just throwing money at the issue. Its a legitimate strategy.
Consolidating the industry is the real issue. Microsoft may be throwing the most money around but they aren't the worst about it. Embracer is/was. Sony does it too. That's the real issue. Do not be distracted by losing your favorite franchise.
A good reason why PlayStation 5 is currently outselling the Xbox, that is because the PlayStation 4 is so successful that the owners PlayStation 4 are automatically switching to the 5 because they are firstly tied in two the Sony infrastructure because of all the digital purchases. Also because a lot of them still have not dared to move away from the PlayStation.
Let’s all agree the majority of people buy a console to play only third party games and free to play games the old generations of console wars was over with ps2 and Xbox 360 and GameCube
If you buy a Nintendo console it's to buy first part games.
@@saintlugia I own only a handfull of first party games on my switch Astral Chain, Metroid, Fire Emblem, Pokémon and xenoblade the rest are 3rd and indie. Actually idk if Pokémon can be considered first party since they only own 40% of the ip.
@AnarickTheDevil okay you are still in the minority. Also Nintendo owns 30 percent of pokemon by all metrics that really matter pokemon is basically a first party game.
Ardrid..So high production quality, such low fact checking and allowing personal biases to creep in. Well done to Destin for keeping it classy.
People using redfall as xboxes only exclusive that was a massive flop turned out to be better than anyone thought Starfield is only exclusive to xbox and pc
Ever since xbox was like play anywhere, it doesn't matter PC console. I never understood why folks were like "well why buy an Xbox now"...how about ease of use ...for me that's why I buy console without worrying if my graphics card or cpu is up to date ...I recently bought a rog ally and that's all the PC I'll ever care about , simple updates and still benefits from gamepass and now steam offering...EASE of USE!
I had an Xbox and a Wii....my wife and I and our friends played the Wii so much we had to get another one😂😂..the Wii was different and extremely fun!! Have no clue what he's talking about😅
If you ask me, Xbox's biggest blunder during gen 1 was either:
A: Not packaging the console with a dvd remote
B: Not allowing the controllers to control DVD playback.
So it's the Xbox tax than?
Yes Xbox tax is a real thing. I’m disappointed how Destin is afraid to admit it. I know that he knows it’s real, but it’s a conflict of interest regarding his career. I get it.
@@OcarinaHero93what game deserved a high score but didnt get it from xbox?
@@PervySage723 it’s not just about review scores for games you know. It’s regarding anything positive about Xbox. The media twists the news into their own narrative. The recent controversy surrounding Marvel’s Blade is a perfect example.
@@PervySage723 Hi Fi Rush score was openly admitted to being reduced because it is an Xbox game.
The newest Forza was just given a lower score. Said in the same reviews that it was better than the last one and given a lower score than said game.
@@OcarinaHero93 not anything different then xbox players complaining about spiderman exclusivity endlessly. The fact you dont have 1 example for game scores tells there isnt a bias
I can't believe that I have to hit the 1.5X button just to hear Destin at normal speed, only to hear the other guy in double speed
Hey Destin, not sure if you will reply to me, but i wanted to ask you what the type and model of the microphone you use for your audio recording?
i hope you will answer, i am a starter youtube content creator and i am looking to upgrade my mic
Thank you
Back in the day, PSOne had way more exclusives than N64. Did that make N64 a bad system? Absolutley not. N64 had its share of amazing games too. I see the same type of argument with Xbox haters now regarding Playstation, and Sony having more exclusives (read: remasters) doesn't make Xbox a bad system, even if most people prefer Sony. I'vehad more fun with Gamepass and Xbox party chat in the last few years than I ever have had with Playstation. That speaks volumes to me.
I can see why Microsfot does not count consoles anymore. Me and quite a few friends have yet to but the new series consoles. Most of us have one or more of the following an Xbox One X, Steam Deck, Logitech cloud streaming thingy, a PC and phones and we all have xbox gamepass and stream what we need to play usually without issues. Even the new games like Starfield stream fine on the Xbox one X(not sereis X).
Game pass has been around for 2017. That's almost a decade and it's bigger than it's ever been before and profitable. And if Game pass fails? Xbox is still the only place you can play Doom, Halo, Gears, COD, FALLOUT, Elder scrolls etc.
So phil spencer saying that the service is stagnating and loosing subs means nothing to you? I fail to see how that equates to bigger and better.
BTW, the xbox one had to have kinect plugged into it to work when it launched, and they patched it out about a month or 2 later
- Xboxs last 20 years have been a failure
- Xbox won the 360 generation
Make it make sense.
The game that got me into the OG Xbox was Conflict: Desert Storm.
Let us not forget Otogi 1 & 2!! Consumers were told that the Kinct for the Xbox One was required for the Xbox One to operate. It wasn't until later that an update put an end to that. Also, I remember people being told that your games would be on a disc then downloaded to your console and then the disc would be just thrown away and it would not be any good anymore when installed on the Xbox being used. This was viewed as totally anti consumer. It also turned into a joke at E3 by Playstation with Shuhei & Adam on how to share games on the Playstation.
35:29 - Nope.
It WAS required, and they did change it later, via a patch to NOT need it.
Most games suffered heavily, as the kinect needed SYSTEM RAM to function, and hence games had to account for LESS system ram if a user had a kinect. Which was almost always.
Later, they raised that limit, as the kinect was no longer needed, and some games would CRASH if you had the kinect -- but later the xbox OS would allocate resource properly despite that and just shut down the kinect.
something the original video doesn’t mention at all is that Xbox made it big outside the NA/EU market due to selling games in local currencies with price adjustments.
Playstation to this day charges people dollars in countries where dollars are not used and that becomes a big limitation for many.
Is Microsoft trying to acquire to have a mass gamepass library. Similar to how Netflix does with their in house studios ?
The Classics game that should be remade and remastered. DEAD OR A LIVE : EXTREME VOLLEYBALL? Many hours was spent playing that game. 10/10.
I was honestly really excited about the initial e3 messaging for the xbox one. Family sharing, being able to trade digital games, the tv pass-through worked awesome, we spent more time playing Kinect stuff than we did other games it was a great way to bring the family together, and the kinect voice commands that I sorely miss now.
Sony was luck they got the 8 GB of ram on the ps4. Imagine how different things would have been had it had half the memory of the Xbox One.
My issue with the guys video is that he's not looking at it openly. When he was talking about the PS2 and OG Xbox exclusives, he brought up FF10 as a PS2 exclusive but forgot that 3lder Scrolls Mirrowind, Star Wars Kotor and Kotor 2 were Xbox exclusives that never touched PS2. He also ignored Fable and other games that you(Destin) touched upon at one point.
Halo, Fable, Project Gotham Racing, Crimson Skies. These are just off the top of my head. OG Xbox was incredible. And let’s not forget the PS1 had hardly any first party exclusives (certainly early on), with Sony buying exclusivity from third party publishers. Not attacking Sony, it was good business. I just think some people have a very skewed view of gaming history.
Also, the guy in the video seems to be under the mistaken idea that console is the preeminent way to ship games. That simply isn’t the case. Mobile has the biggest slice of the market by far and PC is bigger than Nintendo, PlayStation and Xbox (though not combined). At this stage, any company clinging to the console model is probably writing its own death note (with the possible exception of Nintendo). The future is mobile and services. Personally, I wish it wasn’t but there’s no getting away from reality.
I don't even think Sony cared about the acquisition, I think it was just Jim Ryan. I think Jim focusing too damn much on trying to stop the merger instead of handling business is one of the reasons he's gone. But that's my opinion.
I want someone to point at an exclusive that was as influential and anticipated as halo 2 and 3. I still remember halo 2 launch and the hype. This whole "iconic" thing is nonesense
When did this become an Xbox channel?
Well, if Xbox has an exclusive problem based 1st party games, then what is Sony doing right now? 1 game all of 2023 and a remaster for 2024 so far...
I disagree with the part where he talks about how Xbox missed quality exclusives when they needed the most, in 2013.
To prove that point, he stated it's easier to mention more relevant franchises from PS and Nintendo, but if you compare first-party games between Xbox and PlayStation in any year from 2013-2015, you'll notice that PS4's lineup was made of a bunch of games no one remembers and not those relevant titles and characters he mentioned in 41:35, while Xbox had Ryse, Forza Horizon 4, Sunset Overdrive, etc.
It's debatable whether the Xbox One games were quality titles or not, but it was almost objectively better than PS4's lineup, so that point just doesn't make sense in my head.
Playstation was completely built on 3rd party. They had no in house studios at the beginning.
@destin I'm loving these reactions. keep it coming
It'd be interesting if you sat down and had a considered conversation with Ardrid about the points in his video.
Forza Motorsport 1 on the og Xbox still to this day is the reason I buy Xboxs. Even though there hasn't been a good Forza in well over 10 years now.
What's crazy is when Sega announced they were going third party, no one was like " why did I buy a Dreamcast then?"
Yes gaming is going to evolve but people care about now. I could care less about gaming on a TV until the time comes. The only thing I care about in the future are my current investments growing.
These guys acting like Sony and Nintendo were the gaming juggernauts and Microsoft crashed the party. Sony was still quite new as well. Sega and Nintendo were the old guard. Sony was a giant electronics firm trying to join the video game market only a few years before Microsoft did.
Wait. When did the GameCube outsell the Xbox? Also why are we counting 3rd party exclusives for PS2 but not for Xbox?
Most Xbox exclusive were on pc too. Not a real exclusive.