Tom delonge is an amateur as far as the alien stuff goes... fir a true SCIENTIST level bs 😂 Matt Pike! Love his music but fuck me he be thinking that the day of reckoning is here!!
My favorite Tom Delonge moment was during their 2009 reunion tour in between songs he says "This next song is about boners" and Mark quickly jumps in "No. No it's not". The next song was Adam's song, the song about suicide
Gerard HAS to be an S tier. Defined and dominated a music genre. Still relevant in 2022 not to mention he's now impacting the television scene with him Umbrella Academy Comics. Gerard is one of the all time greats in music imo.
@@DarkAnubis if he was only popular with his og fans, you might have a valid point but he consistently appeals to the similar age demographic and continues to gain more fans. If that is not a sign of consistent relevance idk what is
Huge props for shouting out Just Dance by Lady Gaga. I feel like that song got played a lot in 2008 and then everyone seemed to forget what a masterpiece it is. Timeless IMO.
I had the wonderful opportunity in the 2000's - about 2014 where I did not listen to as much pop music as varieties of hiphop and rock so when I was feeling like listening to 'new stuff' that (double) album came to my attention for the first time and I was like "fuh qya"
My only disagreement is Gerard Way is S-Tier. The Black Parade alone as a song is probably wayyyy more influential in the pop punk/emo scene than anything many of the other artists have done.
Nah Blink are the kings most of them copied them, MCR basically copied Queens sound in a good way, Panic used to be a blink cover band please do some pop punk history searching.
Apparently, Tom Delonge's company has a contract with the US DOD (Department of Defense aka military heads) to deal with UFO and aerial phenomena. His work was incredibly instrumental to those UFO papers that were recently released. Say whatever you want about the guy but it looks like he may have a point (he'll likely go down as the Jack Sparrow of the alternative scene).
Thank you for saying this as I was about to comment when Finn simply stated, "The alien stuff is ruff," to indirectly downplay all the work Tom has done. I love what Finn does, but he really needs to do more research sometimes and this is a fine example of that.
People have *got to* remember though that UFO means "unidentified flying object" and not "extraterrestrial flight craft." A cloud or a bird is a UFO is someone doesn't know what it is. People see things in the sky and don't know what they are. Doesn't mean aliens. It's the sensationalising of UFOs that's the problem and Tom does do that to some extent and the media then sensationalises Tom's sensationalism.
90s Mustaine would be actually a serious contestant for A tier. Nickelback is actually good singer, not Audioslave or even Shinedown level, but he has good vocal timbre.
Tom Delonge is might not be the best guitarists but he has an ability to make something super simple yet memorable and iconic at the same time, also an amazing lyricists which he gets no credit especially being in 3 different bands
Tom's voice has a unique quality about it. He may not sing what one would think as "traditionally" well however, his voice holds your interest, and you want to hear it again.
Didn't understand why Gerard wasn't S tier until Finn said he hated nerd shit blending into rock, now it all makes sense lol. Good list, was fun to watch.
I totally get that, but it really shocked me when Finn said his vocal chops were just good but not great. In my book, he's a serious contender for best hard rock vocalist of all time, and easily better than anyone in S tier other than maybe Corey and Gaga.
@@1hcc994 He was doing weird things during concerts before which affected his singing like he was more focused on touching and making out with Frank Iero
I unknowingly met C, Taylor in 2000 at the Croatian Cultural Center in B.C. Canada. Slipknot was opening for Coal Chamber. I was selling green at the show and these dudes and grrrl wanted green. One of was the one and only... Unmasked. Not a clue. I had mentioned seeing Slipknot at OZZFEST 99 and grabbing a cassette single demo of wait and bleed of one of the DJs who smelled like garbage and just being blown away. Wishing I could get in to the show. BAM this guy giggled and said he could get me in the show...30 mins later SK took the stage... I lost my shoes at that show. Years later...STONE SOUR appeared... NO FUCKING WAY. lol Cool Fucking Dude.
Maynard James Keenan, Chino Moreno, Oli Sykes, Jonathon Davis, Trent Reznor, Maria Brink, Ronnie Radke, Tatiana Shmailyuk, Amy Lee, Corey Taylor, Phil Anselmo, Caleb Shomo and Chris Motionless are all top tier.
There's no bigger Tool fan than me, but MJK? Amazing musician but not much of a front man. (He doesn't even stand in the front of the stage when performing)
Hey Finn, I think you're gonna need to make 2 or 3 more of these Frontperson Tier Lists. It is an interesting topic and we've barely even begun to get into the massive list of folks to ummm....judge. Yeah. Thank you in advance.
She's the scene version of Topanga, she's responsible for defining exactly what kind of girl a entire generation of guys was attracted to. Also yeah she's incredibly talented.
I just saw Lamb of God live for the second time last weekend and my God is Randy Blythe an absolute monster. He's out for a bit with covid and I hate people are missing him because he really is incredible. Easy S tier.
Absolutely a top tier metal frontman, knows how to work the crowd really well and has such a powerful voice live too. Also seems like a really cool dude who just loves photography, surfing and writing.
Definitely would need to add Randy to this list. I have unfortunately never personally seen them live but I watch full concerts all the time of all different genres. Randy easily seems to be S tier.
so regarding nickelback lyrics… I used to go to a methadone clinic and one of the counselors there put a nickelback song up on TH-cam on his Laptop and told me to read the lyrics (they were about sobriety) honestly that experience did make me want to get sober, albeit not in the intended way. I just realized how far from grace I had fallen 😂
@@crazydud3380 I shouldn’t be so stuck up about it, but it did feel a little like I was being trolled. Jokes on me though, some of them invested into that business pre-opiate crisis and are now retired millionaires.
I actually adore Way's singing. Like I don't know about how good it is technically, but just pure enjoyment wise, God I love it. I remember listening to "ghost of you" the first time and shitting myself. And the live version of headfirst for halos, hot damn 🔥
Idk too much about vocals but I know he has a great range🤘 not as deep as Maynard, for example, but has like 3 solid octaves under his belt which is still impressive, some sources cited as high as 5 octaves but that's a bit generous.
It's kinda weird. I don't see how Tom is in S but Gerard isn't. I don't see Tom as being better in anything. I'd still put Tom in S, but Gerard needs to be there too
It's a shame he's fallen so hard but I saw Marilyn Manson in 1995 (because Clutch was opening) and he was a FANTASTIC frontman, I could see him in big arenas and then a few years later he was at Ozzfest and he killed it. What a fall from grace.
Asap rocky has higher rank than Gerard Way? Really? Gerard is so talented for these reasons: his vocals are not just good for emo or rock music. He sounds good in other genres too. Have you heard of his new black metal collab? Even if he hadn't performed for a long time, his vocals and screams improved. He's a talented artist and writer. Besides that, some mainstream artists are inspired by his band, MCR.
@Jody Ellison when you've got 20 years of being a fucking joke, your influence ki da stops. Not a single new popular act since AFI has been influenced by his work and they signed to a major in 2001
Tom Delonge seems like one of those dudes that somehow always smells good. Like even when he gets all gnarly and sweaty he probably still smells like laundry soap.
Seeing drugs recently for the first time I believe an s tier frontman is Craig Owens. Vocal powerhouse, knows how to work the crowd and seems like a very nice guy.
Adam Lazzara from Taking Back Sunday would be B-tier. Not the best live vocalist but he’s a god damn emo showman. Conducts his concerts like a mad southern preacher.
wait a minute, the skill and charisma criteria barely even matter in this video. Finn really just wanted to talk about which singers he'd like to be friends with
No idea why you'd hesitate to be friends with a UFO believer... would make for the absolutely most hilarious conversation you can have with a real person.
In regards to Gerard: you gotta check out the vocals he did on Matt Heafys black metal side project...and yes I know that entire sentence sounds fake lol
I went to an arch enemy, behemoth, napalm death, and unto others show last night and I gotta say all the front men/women were pretty damn entertaining even though they’re not my favorite bands in the world. Barely listened to them before this except for a few songs my boyfriend plays sometimes. They put on a damn good show though! Behemoth’s outfits were my favorite and the vocalist of arch enemy was so hot I couldn’t take my eyes off of her and she sounded SO good live.
@@whargoul43 have fun man! The vocalist of arch enemy (I’m sry I don’t know her name) does mic throws and spins she’s so fun to watch and listen to. Her screams and growls blew me away honestly.
there's no way Avril or Tom Delonge are above Gerard Way. the guy IS emo music. think about their most recent reunion tour. sold out in under a minute. Angels and Airwaves was not that good and fell off, Avril is not a great singer, hell Phil Anselmo has lost his voice in his age mostly due to his life style. MCR isnt my favorite band but that guy was that band and that band was/is a behemoth
I'm sorry but thinking ASAP Rocky is more iconic than Gerard Way is fucking insane. That dude is pretty much the emo movement's poster child and the black parade era garments are an icon.
So I went to Emo Night the other day and the sheer amount of ppl in Blink shirts was insane. And MCR shirts. Those were the two bands tees I saw the most. & they had life-size cardboard cutouts of Gerard (black parade era) and Travis Barker (2000s). They also had Hayley & Olli. But yeah the crowd went crazy for BMTH, MCR and Blink. Fun times ngl.
Well Gerard Way should belong on the s Tier. He is an amazing vocalist, he can scream he can sing and he's just as charistmatic as Corey Taylor or Hayley Williams. He isn't just some geek, he literally made a Batman comic and Umbrealla Academy wich is one of Netflix's most watched series. His band literally influenced Bilie Eilish, Lil Peep and Post Malone. He never had any Drama apart from the drug stuff in his early years. But he's literally one of the most charistatic and beat vocalists in all of Alternative Cultures history and yes I'm butthurt, cause you're ignoring all these facts. His stage presence is sooooo entertaining and there are soooo many videos that prove it. Literally every live Performance that isn't filmed with a phone, you can find on YT, you can see how good He is in what he does.
I know, right? I mean, I kinda get what he says, but it just sounds like he hasn't sen a lot of live footage of Mcr. And the thing about the vocals I totally don't get. I don't know anyone who is as good as Gerard, when it comes to conveying emotions with his vocals and still singing really really well
My favourite vocalists are Layne Staley of AIC Travis Meeks of Days Of The New Shaun Morgan of Seether Sully Erna of Godsmack Anneke Van Giersbergern of The Gathering Sharon Den Adel of Within Temptation Simone Simons of Epica Some great vocalists are Kurt Cobain of Nirvana Chris Cornell of Soundgarden Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam Chris Weiland of STP Trent Reznor of NIN Amy Lee of Evanescence Billy Corgan of Smashing Pumpkins Maynard James Keenan of Tool and A Perfect Circle Mike Patton of Faith No More and Mr Bungle Myles Kennedy of Alter Bridge Brent Smith of Shinedown Zack De La Rocha of RATM Chino Moreno of Deftones Some underrated vocalists are Pete Loeffler of Chevelle Lajon Witherspoon of Sevendust Sonny Sandoval of P.O.D Hugo Ferreira of Tantric Raine Maida of Our Lady Peace
28:00 WTF JUST HAPPENED?! You LOVE Lady GaGa but you HATE comics books, horror movies, and Danzig....sorry Finn im out.....i dont think MOST people have time for that kinda negativity in their life
When I met Danny warsnop a couple years ago he was so humble I was surprised. Idk if he always is that way but that was my experience with him. He still was somewhat of a partier but seemed to have his stuff together finally! Also Haley Williams is definitely s tear for me. Her vocals are astonishing at times
Danny is a mix bag in general I'd say he was A tier 2010, 2012-2013.... 2010 he was super energetic and had some great screams.. singing was average but he put on a show 2013 he was charismatic you gave him respect as soon as he walked on stage he just had presence about him and backed it up with awesome vocals...2016-17 when he returned B tier still great but not as good for both...now meh he's lost it
The first 1:20, or more precisely, what you said about #2 Charisma, is why I dig this channel. Ofc, you advocating for the music we love, especially Punk, is why I started to watch you. What kept me is how you to what you do in a fair, legit, and respectable way. Like, I am sure most ppl thought you where gonna rate rock, punk, etc, only, and not including anyone outside of that. But this is why I can relate to you, and respect you even more for. You appreciate good artists, no matter the genre. You don't rate Punk or rock. You rate, and also generally, talk about music - in general. Exactly like we all should when we objectively talking about something (music in this case). You are just honest, simple as that, in a respectful, and professional way (I think, at least). So great ''rate'' video!
If you do a second video I'd like to see your opinions on Freddie Mercury, Brian Johnson, Bon Scott, Lemmy, Ozzy, Dave Grohl, Caleb Shomo, Lzzy Hale, M Shadows, Taylor Momsen, Halsey, Yungblud, David Bowie, Prince, Post Malone, Maria Brink, Chris Motionless, Arianna Grande, Zac Brown, Oli Sykes, Chris Stapleton, Tech N9ne, Keith Urban....just to name a few lol
fun fact about Scott Stapp, I was at a venue to see No Use For A Name and Scott Stapp was playing a solo show in the same place...he brought TWO semi trucks. One with his gear for music and the other with all of his crosses and Jesus accessories.
If there is a part 2 I would love to see your takes on Billy Corgan, Liam Gallagher, Oliver Sykes, Chino Moreno, Maynard James Keenan, Damon Albarn, Thom Yorke, Lenny Kravitz, Ian Brown, Jack White, Alice Glass, Björk, Mike Shinoda
Des Moines was a crazy small scene especially pre 2000. Corey has a massive personality and charisma to burn. From the stories I’ve heard when I worked for Clown, Corey was an easy choice once Slipknot’s original vocalist didn’t work out.
The problem is rappers aren't front men, because they don't lead a band, just like solo artist who only use studio/touring musicians. In order to be a front person you have to have a consistent band.
Danny Worsnop totally crushed it at the Mitch Lucker tribute show. It is a funny juxtaposition to show his solo stuff right afterward, like you gotta respect the dude's artistic range.
Everything that someone likes is nerdy to someone else....... So we all like something nerdy or wierd. There is no normal person in this world. Just saying.
I love that you mention calling the lead singer of the band by the band name! When I was a kid before I knew anything about music, I did that as well. For example, I thought singer of Led Zeppelin was Firstname: Led, Lastname: Zeppelin. Like dang man, that Led guy is a really good guitar player! I wanna be like him someday.
Your content is hilarious and always entertaining. Love it! Edit - would love to see Trent Reznor on your next list. Seems tough to rank. You’ve got stage Trent, who has to be A or S tier. Then you’ve got interview Trent, which is low energy and pretty uncharismatic. I love everything he’s ever created, but man he’s a weird, quiet dude.
david bowie, morrissey, ian mackay, jamey josta S tier, henry rollins, paul bearer, freddy madball, dave grohl, max cavalera, ronnie radke A tier, peter steele, brady ebert, bryan garris, bertrand poncet b tier
As I was reading comments, I thought of an interesting person to put on a tier. I would do Brian Fair of Shadows Fall, Not only does his vocal combo of growls and screams along with serious vocal ability intrigue, but, how interesting is a 6’3 guy with dreds down to the back of his calves.
I think Finn assumes that all Doom is Stoner Doom, and so he doesn’t consider any Doom band too much. I’m surprised he wasn’t on the list though. He was S Tier popularity wise when October Rust came out
Liam from the Cancer Bats, and Rody from Protest the Hero were some of my absolute favorite frontmen. Their stage presence was always insane, whether at the small venues or bigger venues like Heavy MTL. ❤
Officially throwing Danny Elfman in the ring. Dude is actually a pretty good singer, guitarist, percussionist, etc., and is super charismatic. If you ever had the chance to see Oingo Boingo live, or at the very least see some concert footage, you can clearly see how great he is. (Also, the rest of the band is freakishly good as well. They don't get taken seriously because, well, Boingo, but they are amazing.)
Nearly every Finn Tier list comes down to three things: did this top the billboard charts, would this be considered trendy on Tik Tok, and does the band accept progressive lib worldview (excluding capitalism because Finn has an MBA)
Is the guy who did a nazi salute on stage while shouting "white power!", who wore t-shirts with racist slogans and who routinely used Confederate imagery truly a racist? I guess we'll never know
James Hetfield ultimate S tier. I am definitely biased, but 100% checks every box. Talented, obviously. Totally influential. Charismatic, check. And friend worthy? Absolutely! Very down to earth, and if he's your buddy, I'm sure you would be able to save money on auto issues with his ability to build cars. Papa Het🤘!!!
@@mikekirby2085 To be fair, James has later lamented how they handled it. They basically all just let Lars deal with it as he saw fit, and James and Lars are polar opposites in many respects (I still respect Lars as a songwriter overall, and he seems to clearly be a marketing ace, but damn is he also a douche LOL).
@@crazydud3380 yeah rumor has it they had a better deal with their label to get a bigger share of the cd sales money vs other bands. Hence the vigorous defense of cd sales. Totally agree with you as well. It always did seem to be Lars complaining with 3 guys hanging out behind him wishing they were elsewhere. Ive always admired Hetfield because it always felt like he was the heart and soul of the band. Look at how he was with Miley Cyrus on Stern. That was proud Papa Het at his finest.
James never wanted to be a frontman and originally needed Dave to talk to the audience for him, seriously gotta respect how much he improved while still maintaining a more down to Earth vibe than most people fronting the biggest metal band in the world would.
my bias would put Billie Joe Armstrong at S-Tier, but considering the wide world of leads i completely understand if he's A tier or B tier 1. he is definitely a stellar songwriter, while guitar is his preference he has shown chops with other instruments, from 1988-2005 his vocals were not exactly top tier but i love it and can sing along to it while from 2006-on his voice has evolved to a dynamic pop voice 2. excellent stage presence, gets the fans involved in the show, still very energetic but definitely not as wild nowadays as in 1993-1996. also anyone who saw the instagram response to someone stealing his car can say that he's got a really good head on his shoulders despite his drunken outburst on iHeartRadio (which i actually kinda liked) 3. i would want him to be my cool uncle who gets me into music. i also just look at his family life as an example of what i would want to strive for.
Great Vid, but how can someone say that Gerard Way ISN'T a fantastic vocalist? I do not understand this. He's the only one I really disagree with. I'd definetely place him in S by far, but otherwise I think all the placements make sense!
I have a soft spot for Sugar Ray. The band used SuperCat on Fly which was too….i dont know what. Too dangerous for white people so the radio would play the SuperCat free version. And he absolutely owned Music Jeopardy on VH1. It was like the far side comic with God winning.
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hey man great video, make a part 2
You blocked me on IG. Hurts brah
Why didn't you add Chester from linkinpark?
Tom delonge is an amateur as far as the alien stuff goes... fir a true SCIENTIST level bs 😂 Matt Pike! Love his music but fuck me he be thinking that the day of reckoning is here!!
Glad we putting varg where he deserves
My favorite Tom Delonge moment was during their 2009 reunion tour in between songs he says "This next song is about boners" and Mark quickly jumps in "No. No it's not". The next song was Adam's song, the song about suicide
Endfest?
lol did he mix up the setlist in his head or something?
Classic Tom 😂
@@kjamlinhe definitely knew what song was next. That's just his sense of humor.
I liked when Chad "Nickelback" Kroeger was the entire A through E tier all by himself for like 0.5 seconds
Well, he is top tier and bottom tier simultaneously, somehow. Kind of impressive how he is able to do that!
@@crazydud3380 He does it all, with varied levels of success
He is the entire spectrum in which all are defined
@@Return2TheLiving the Prime Chad
Gigachad
Tier listing is God tier content on the content tier list of tier listing. I'm always here for it.
It's certainly top tier.
@@clintbeastwood5116 this comment is S tier.
@@MilitantMe stop it. You'll bring me to tiers.
lol i love this comment.
@@clintbeastwood5116 💯
The most engaging and entertaining frontman I've seen in concert was Dave Grohl. Dude just has 110% energy from the first song to the last song.
Dave Grohl is a separate tier unto himself. We all know that!
Speaking of which, he should probably do Kurt Cobain if he does a part 2 to this.
@@crazydud3380 S tier at the lowest
@@ZackSeifMusic I assume you mean S tier for Cobain, to which I agree.
Facts. I saw them over 10 years ago in the same arena that the Washington Capitals play in and it was still one of the best shows I've ever been to.
Yassss
Gerard HAS to be an S tier. Defined and dominated a music genre. Still relevant in 2022 not to mention he's now impacting the television scene with him Umbrella Academy Comics. Gerard is one of the all time greats in music imo.
How is he still relevant? Mcr and gerard aren’t relevant since the black parade.
@@DarkAnubis Gerard himself has been - he's still working on a hit tv series and has been for years. Has a pretty heckin decent solo music career too.
Nerdy kids are the best😢
@@DarkAnubis i mean, the fact that his fans are still predominantly teenagers means he's still relevant lmao.
@@DarkAnubis if he was only popular with his og fans, you might have a valid point but he consistently appeals to the similar age demographic and continues to gain more fans. If that is not a sign of consistent relevance idk what is
Huge props for shouting out Just Dance by Lady Gaga. I feel like that song got played a lot in 2008 and then everyone seemed to forget what a masterpiece it is. Timeless IMO.
I had the wonderful opportunity in the 2000's - about 2014 where I did not listen to as much pop music as varieties of hiphop and rock so when I was feeling like listening to 'new stuff' that (double) album came to my attention for the first time and I was like "fuh qya"
My only disagreement is Gerard Way is S-Tier. The Black Parade alone as a song is probably wayyyy more influential in the pop punk/emo scene than anything many of the other artists have done.
Nah Blink are the kings most of them copied them, MCR basically copied Queens sound in a good way, Panic used to be a blink cover band please do some pop punk history searching.
Agreed. The Black Parade is a masterpiece.
Apparently, Tom Delonge's company has a contract with the US DOD (Department of Defense aka military heads) to deal with UFO and aerial phenomena. His work was incredibly instrumental to those UFO papers that were recently released. Say whatever you want about the guy but it looks like he may have a point (he'll likely go down as the Jack Sparrow of the alternative scene).
“Well, *that’s* interesting.”
Thank you for saying this as I was about to comment when Finn simply stated, "The alien stuff is ruff," to indirectly downplay all the work Tom has done. I love what Finn does, but he really needs to do more research sometimes and this is a fine example of that.
@@ScottyMo Agreed.
going off his latest appearance on the steveo podcast, apparently is doing a lot of heavy lifting. dude is one toke over the line.
People have *got to* remember though that UFO means "unidentified flying object" and not "extraterrestrial flight craft." A cloud or a bird is a UFO is someone doesn't know what it is.
People see things in the sky and don't know what they are. Doesn't mean aliens.
It's the sensationalising of UFOs that's the problem and Tom does do that to some extent and the media then sensationalises Tom's sensationalism.
90s Mustaine would be actually a serious contestant for A tier.
Nickelback is actually good singer, not Audioslave or even Shinedown level, but he has good vocal timbre.
Nickelback isn't a singer, it's a band
Tom Delonge is might not be the best guitarists but he has an ability to make something super simple yet memorable and iconic at the same time, also an amazing lyricists which he gets no credit especially being in 3 different bands
Tom's voice has a unique quality about it. He may not sing what one would think as "traditionally" well however, his voice holds your interest, and you want to hear it again.
Tom DeLonge is not in 3 bands, has never been in 3 bands at once
@@DetroitLionsDynasty I didn't say at at the same time
if gerard isnt in s tier i will riot
Have you repaired your house yet?
Gerard is a incredible vocalist i think. Must stronger voice than Tom Delonge.
I got bad news for you buddy...
I love how the only people simping for Way possess XX chromosomes.
@@r.b.rozier9692 I'm a guy, my friend
Didn't understand why Gerard wasn't S tier until Finn said he hated nerd shit blending into rock, now it all makes sense lol. Good list, was fun to watch.
I totally get that, but it really shocked me when Finn said his vocal chops were just good but not great. In my book, he's a serious contender for best hard rock vocalist of all time, and easily better than anyone in S tier other than maybe Corey and Gaga.
@@sawyerlachance1300 he’s not a great vocalist all the time at least when I saw them. But that’s alright amazing storyteller and very entertaining.❤️
@@1hcc994 He was doing weird things during concerts before which affected his singing like he was more focused on touching and making out with Frank Iero
Lady Gaga is the blueprint for the modern pop star
I unknowingly met C, Taylor in 2000 at the Croatian Cultural Center in B.C. Canada. Slipknot was opening for Coal Chamber. I was selling green at the show and these dudes and grrrl wanted green. One of was the one and only... Unmasked. Not a clue. I had mentioned seeing Slipknot at OZZFEST 99 and grabbing a cassette single demo of wait and bleed of one of the DJs who smelled like garbage and just being blown away. Wishing I could get in to the show. BAM this guy giggled and said he could get me in the show...30 mins later SK took the stage... I lost my shoes at that show. Years later...STONE SOUR appeared... NO FUCKING WAY. lol
Cool Fucking Dude.
Suggestions for next time; Ozzy, Bert McCracken, Anthony Keidis, Sting, Daryl Palumbo, Sade, Morrisey. Great video, love tier lists
Maynard James Keenan, Chino Moreno, Oli Sykes, Jonathon Davis, Trent Reznor, Maria Brink, Ronnie Radke, Tatiana Shmailyuk, Amy Lee, Corey Taylor, Phil Anselmo, Caleb Shomo and Chris Motionless are all top tier.
i agree
You forgot Ozzy.
There's no bigger Tool fan than me, but MJK? Amazing musician but not much of a front man. (He doesn't even stand in the front of the stage when performing)
@@dougk359 Have you seen Puscifer live? MJK is just as upfront and engaging with Puscifer as he was for the TOOL tours in the 90s.
I'd put s+ tier mike patton on that list
Gotta do a part 2, Chris Cornell, Amy Lee, Howard Jones, David Coverdale, Jeremy McKinnon and Oli Sykes are some people I would talk about.
I was hoping to hear something on Mitch lucker, m shadows, Davy havok, Randy Blythe, maybe GG Allen and such what
David Coverdale? He’s an absolute king but Cmon - we all know Finn doesn’t cover old guys
Fun fact: Howard Jones was actually a classically trained operatic singer. ☺️
Howard, Columbus’s own. He reminds me a lot of Brian Fair. Has a killer normal singing voice but screams with the best of them.
After watching outbreak fest 2022 id include Brendan Yates to that as well as far as charisma goes at least.
My German great grandmother worked at an airport and once told my mom that she “saw guns and flowers today”
Finn: “no stream today guys, watching Tiktoks all day with Fred Durst, and Chad Kroeger”
Hey Finn, I think you're gonna need to make 2 or 3 more of these Frontperson Tier Lists. It is an interesting topic and we've barely even begun to get into the massive list of folks to ummm....judge. Yeah. Thank you in advance.
Agreed
The Frontperson Tier List Iceberg 🌫 We can DO this. 💪
If you do another front person tier list, I’d love to see M Shadows, Anthony Kiedis, Amy Lee, Axl Rose, and Brian Johnson among the ranks!
I honestly think Anthony Keidis would be boring as fuck.
M Shadows seems like the ultimate frontman to sit down and have a beer with lol
@@RecklessEnterainment factss
And Floor Jansen, no one this century has come close, check out live at wacken
Yuuuuuusss
I think this whole channel is secretly just a Hailey Williams fan channel in disguise
I’m not really even a Paramore fan tbh. But how can you deny her importance?
She's the scene version of Topanga, she's responsible for defining exactly what kind of girl a entire generation of guys was attracted to. Also yeah she's incredibly talented.
Gets name dropped in 70 percent of the vids. It is what it is.
@@FinnMckentyPRMBA how can you not be a fan of paramore
I just saw Lamb of God live for the second time last weekend and my God is Randy Blythe an absolute monster. He's out for a bit with covid and I hate people are missing him because he really is incredible. Easy S tier.
Absolutely a top tier metal frontman, knows how to work the crowd really well and has such a powerful voice live too. Also seems like a really cool dude who just loves photography, surfing and writing.
It's good that people missed him because it means hes still relevant. And more people went to see them when they went back on tour with him.
Definitely would need to add Randy to this list. I have unfortunately never personally seen them live but I watch full concerts all the time of all different genres. Randy easily seems to be S tier.
When my brother was little, he would call Macaulay Culkin "Home Alone" and it drove me crazy.
so regarding nickelback lyrics… I used to go to a methadone clinic and one of the counselors there put a nickelback song up on TH-cam on his Laptop and told me to read the lyrics (they were about sobriety) honestly that experience did make me want to get sober, albeit not in the intended way. I just realized how far from grace I had fallen 😂
Being forced to read Nickelback lyrics = hitting rock bottom LOL
@@crazydud3380 I shouldn’t be so stuck up about it, but it did feel a little like I was being trolled. Jokes on me though, some of them invested into that business pre-opiate crisis and are now retired millionaires.
Danny is now and forever “The scene Michael Buble” lmao
part of the genius of Tom is that anyone can pick up a guitar and play most of his riffs. it's pretty rad for beginners to feel cool like that
Exactly. That music is useless
I actually adore Way's singing. Like I don't know about how good it is technically, but just pure enjoyment wise, God I love it. I remember listening to "ghost of you" the first time and shitting myself. And the live version of headfirst for halos, hot damn 🔥
Idk too much about vocals but I know he has a great range🤘 not as deep as Maynard, for example, but has like 3 solid octaves under his belt which is still impressive, some sources cited as high as 5 octaves but that's a bit generous.
I like to hear emotions in the singer's voice so I love Gerard's singing.
his raw vocals in bullets and dramatic range in black parade are amazing. he and Hayley Williams are two of my favorite vocalists of all time
I mean, I'd say he's a really great Vocalist. He so great at conveying emotions with his vocals and also singing very well at the same time
Gerard way deserves the top tier!! Tom Delonge has nothing on Gerard
He just not chad enough for Finn.
I like both bands and Tom is way cooler. I’d like to hang out with Tom. I’d never want to hang out with Gerard
It's kinda weird. I don't see how Tom is in S but Gerard isn't. I don't see Tom as being better in anything. I'd still put Tom in S, but Gerard needs to be there too
in an alternate universe , everybody respects nickelback because they became a metallica cover band instead of nickelback
It's a shame he's fallen so hard but I saw Marilyn Manson in 1995 (because Clutch was opening) and he was a FANTASTIC frontman, I could see him in big arenas and then a few years later he was at Ozzfest and he killed it. What a fall from grace.
Agreed. He didn't him wrong on this list
I about died when he went from Tom to "How bout Varg??" 🤣🤣
Asap rocky has higher rank than Gerard Way? Really? Gerard is so talented for these reasons: his vocals are not just good for emo or rock music. He sounds good in other genres too. Have you heard of his new black metal collab? Even if he hadn't performed for a long time, his vocals and screams improved. He's a talented artist and writer. Besides that, some mainstream artists are inspired by his band, MCR.
You should look into how influential rocky is
@Jody Ellison Danzig has been a joke since 10 years before rocky's debut.
@Jody Ellison when you've got 20 years of being a fucking joke, your influence ki da stops. Not a single new popular act since AFI has been influenced by his work and they signed to a major in 2001
@Jody Ellison Danzig is quite influential but I wouldn't say that he's far more influential than Rocky lol
9:06 this is how I dressed every day in high school in the early 2000s. Underneath was a long sleeve then I had a t shirt on
Tom Delonge seems like one of those dudes that somehow always smells good. Like even when he gets all gnarly and sweaty he probably still smells like laundry soap.
Seeing drugs recently for the first time I believe an s tier frontman is Craig Owens. Vocal powerhouse, knows how to work the crowd and seems like a very nice guy.
Adam Lazzara from Taking Back Sunday would be B-tier. Not the best live vocalist but he’s a god damn emo showman. Conducts his concerts like a mad southern preacher.
A true disciple of the Geoff Rickley School of Microphone Swinging.
I mean... He was...
wait a minute, the skill and charisma criteria barely even matter in this video. Finn really just wanted to talk about which singers he'd like to be friends with
Not a valid criteria for me either.. I think great showmanship actually requires a certain amount of ego and arrogance.
No idea why you'd hesitate to be friends with a UFO believer... would make for the absolutely most hilarious conversation you can have with a real person.
In regards to Gerard: you gotta check out the vocals he did on Matt Heafys black metal side project...and yes I know that entire sentence sounds fake lol
I went to an arch enemy, behemoth, napalm death, and unto others show last night and I gotta say all the front men/women were pretty damn entertaining even though they’re not my favorite bands in the world. Barely listened to them before this except for a few songs my boyfriend plays sometimes. They put on a damn good show though! Behemoth’s outfits were my favorite and the vocalist of arch enemy was so hot I couldn’t take my eyes off of her and she sounded SO good live.
I get to go to this show tonight!
@@whargoul43 have fun man! The vocalist of arch enemy (I’m sry I don’t know her name) does mic throws and spins she’s so fun to watch and listen to. Her screams and growls blew me away honestly.
there's no way Avril or Tom Delonge are above Gerard Way. the guy IS emo music. think about their most recent reunion tour. sold out in under a minute. Angels and Airwaves was not that good and fell off, Avril is not a great singer, hell Phil Anselmo has lost his voice in his age mostly due to his life style.
MCR isnt my favorite band but that guy was that band and that band was/is a behemoth
Avril Lavigne is definitely a great singer.
Do some research please.
Definitely could go for hours lol need Lindemann, Ozzy,Araya, De LA Rocha, Mr.Killmister,etc. Love the video bub
I'm sorry but thinking ASAP Rocky is more iconic than Gerard Way is fucking insane. That dude is pretty much the emo movement's poster child and the black parade era garments are an icon.
So I went to Emo Night the other day and the sheer amount of ppl in Blink shirts was insane. And MCR shirts. Those were the two bands tees I saw the most. & they had life-size cardboard cutouts of Gerard (black parade era) and Travis Barker (2000s). They also had Hayley & Olli. But yeah the crowd went crazy for BMTH, MCR and Blink. Fun times ngl.
Well Gerard Way should belong on the s Tier. He is an amazing vocalist, he can scream he can sing and he's just as charistmatic as Corey Taylor or Hayley Williams. He isn't just some geek, he literally made a Batman comic and Umbrealla Academy wich is one of Netflix's most watched series. His band literally influenced Bilie Eilish, Lil Peep and Post Malone. He never had any Drama apart from the drug stuff in his early years. But he's literally one of the most charistatic and beat vocalists in all of Alternative Cultures history and yes I'm butthurt, cause you're ignoring all these facts. His stage presence is sooooo entertaining and there are soooo many videos that prove it. Literally every live Performance that isn't filmed with a phone, you can find on YT, you can see how good He is in what he does.
I know, right? I mean, I kinda get what he says, but it just sounds like he hasn't sen a lot of live footage of Mcr. And the thing about the vocals I totally don't get. I don't know anyone who is as good as Gerard, when it comes to conveying emotions with his vocals and still singing really really well
Tom Delonge is my Idol. He is the reason I got into music and started playing the guitar, practicing my singing etc.
My favourite vocalists are
Layne Staley of AIC
Travis Meeks of Days Of The New
Shaun Morgan of Seether
Sully Erna of Godsmack
Anneke Van Giersbergern of The Gathering
Sharon Den Adel of Within Temptation
Simone Simons of Epica
Some great vocalists are
Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
Chris Cornell of Soundgarden
Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam
Chris Weiland of STP
Trent Reznor of NIN
Amy Lee of Evanescence
Billy Corgan of Smashing Pumpkins
Maynard James Keenan of Tool and A Perfect Circle
Mike Patton of Faith No More and Mr Bungle
Myles Kennedy of Alter Bridge
Brent Smith of Shinedown
Zack De La Rocha of RATM
Chino Moreno of Deftones
Some underrated vocalists are
Pete Loeffler of Chevelle
Lajon Witherspoon of Sevendust
Sonny Sandoval of P.O.D
Hugo Ferreira of Tantric
Raine Maida of Our Lady Peace
This is a great series that should continue. Davey Havok, Eddie Vedder, Gwen Stefani just to name a few.
28:00 WTF JUST HAPPENED?! You LOVE Lady GaGa but you HATE comics books, horror movies, and Danzig....sorry Finn im out.....i dont think MOST people have time for that kinda negativity in their life
When I met Danny warsnop a couple years ago he was so humble I was surprised. Idk if he always is that way but that was my experience with him. He still was somewhat of a partier but seemed to have his stuff together finally! Also Haley Williams is definitely s tear for me. Her vocals are astonishing at times
Danny is a mix bag in general I'd say he was A tier 2010, 2012-2013.... 2010 he was super energetic and had some great screams.. singing was average but he put on a show
2013 he was charismatic you gave him respect as soon as he walked on stage he just had presence about him and backed it up with awesome vocals...2016-17 when he returned B tier still great but not as good for both...now meh he's lost it
Top 5 frontmen!
1- Jon Davis
2- chester Bennington
3- Brent Smith
4- Cory Taylor
5- Bert McCracken
“S Is is for the simping
Ex is for my ex left me for her best friend she said not to worry about”
- Virgin Kroeger
Love watching your longer videos when I'm on doing a post workout stairmaster or spin bike ride. Really helps pass the time. Love your content Finn! 🤘
OMG how isn't Gerard an S!?? As a millenial I feel really upset
The first 1:20, or more precisely, what you said about #2 Charisma, is why I dig this channel. Ofc, you advocating for the music we love, especially Punk, is why I started to watch you. What kept me is how you to what you do in a fair, legit, and respectable way. Like, I am sure most ppl thought you where gonna rate rock, punk, etc, only, and not including anyone outside of that. But this is why I can relate to you, and respect you even more for. You appreciate good artists, no matter the genre. You don't rate Punk or rock. You rate, and also generally, talk about music - in general. Exactly like we all should when we objectively talking about something (music in this case). You are just honest, simple as that, in a respectful, and professional way (I think, at least). So great ''rate'' video!
If you do a second video I'd like to see your opinions on Freddie Mercury, Brian Johnson, Bon Scott, Lemmy, Ozzy, Dave Grohl, Caleb Shomo, Lzzy Hale, M Shadows, Taylor Momsen, Halsey, Yungblud, David Bowie, Prince, Post Malone, Maria Brink, Chris Motionless, Arianna Grande, Zac Brown, Oli Sykes, Chris Stapleton, Tech N9ne, Keith Urban....just to name a few lol
fun fact about Scott Stapp, I was at a venue to see No Use For A Name and Scott Stapp was playing a solo show in the same place...he brought TWO semi trucks. One with his gear for music and the other with all of his crosses and Jesus accessories.
Hello, Finn! I’m a huge fan of Blink-182, Paramore, and Lady Gaga! I would love for this idea to become a series! Have a great day!
"Do I want to be friends with them?" is still the greatest ranking metric I've ever heard
Phil Anselmo whom with Pantera kept Heavy Metal breathing during the early to late 90's
i would switch out Mark McGrath or A$AP Rocky for Gerard Way but other than that pretty solid list
Surely Marilyn Manson deserves to be above varg
I mean is the bar that low? Lol
If there is a part 2 I would love to see your takes on Billy Corgan, Liam Gallagher, Oliver Sykes, Chino Moreno, Maynard James Keenan, Damon Albarn, Thom Yorke, Lenny Kravitz, Ian Brown, Jack White, Alice Glass, Björk, Mike Shinoda
Des Moines was a crazy small scene especially pre 2000. Corey has a massive personality and charisma to burn. From the stories I’ve heard when I worked for Clown, Corey was an easy choice once Slipknot’s original vocalist didn’t work out.
6:28 he’s one of the best vocalist
As a hip hop head I was pleasantly surprised at how well you are tapped in / informed of ASAP Rocky’s importance & influence in hip hop culture 👍🏼
The problem is rappers aren't front men, because they don't lead a band, just like solo artist who only use studio/touring musicians. In order to be a front person you have to have a consistent band.
Danny Worsnop totally crushed it at the Mitch Lucker tribute show. It is a funny juxtaposition to show his solo stuff right afterward, like you gotta respect the dude's artistic range.
Front person tier list WITHOUT DAVE GROHL??????? Dude is tier on its own... You've gotta make part 2 of this with Dave
I was just saying this too! LOL
Everything that someone likes is nerdy to someone else....... So we all like something nerdy or wierd. There is no normal person in this world. Just saying.
I love that you mention calling the lead singer of the band by the band name! When I was a kid before I knew anything about music, I did that as well. For example, I thought singer of Led Zeppelin was Firstname: Led, Lastname: Zeppelin. Like dang man, that Led guy is a really good guitar player! I wanna be like him someday.
Same 😂
If Gerad Way isn't S tier I am going to have stern words Sir.
Your content is hilarious and always entertaining. Love it!
Edit - would love to see Trent Reznor on your next list. Seems tough to rank. You’ve got stage Trent, who has to be A or S tier. Then you’ve got interview Trent, which is low energy and pretty uncharismatic.
I love everything he’s ever created, but man he’s a weird, quiet dude.
david bowie, morrissey, ian mackay, jamey josta S tier, henry rollins, paul bearer, freddy madball, dave grohl, max cavalera, ronnie radke A tier, peter steele, brady ebert, bryan garris, bertrand poncet b tier
As I was reading comments, I thought of an interesting person to put on a tier. I would do Brian Fair of Shadows Fall, Not only does his vocal combo of growls and screams along with serious vocal ability intrigue, but, how interesting is a 6’3 guy with dreds down to the back of his calves.
dude Haley Williams is an absolute monster. He voice live is so big and so strong I'm not even sure she was using a microphone
I'd like to see another one with Davey Havok and Bert McCracken
3:59 Forgive me, but what does Corey Taylor think about this?
...but the real question is: What does Corey Taylor think of this list?!
As a working cartoonist, this video was hard to get through with all the comic hate.
Yeah, Finn is just so wrong with what he said about comics
@@layne05yeah
No anything is wrong on and I’ll testify to that
If you do a part 2, I would love to hear your thoughts on Peter Steele from Type O Negative.
I've never heard him mention TypeO ever.
I think Finn assumes that all Doom is Stoner Doom, and so he doesn’t consider any Doom band too much. I’m surprised he wasn’t on the list though. He was S Tier popularity wise when October Rust came out
Here's the problem, any popular band or artist basically needs an S tier front person.
danny isnt the best frontman but he is one hell of a vocalist! look at his recent performances of into the fire!
Hetfield's silhouette alone makes him S tier. There is not a single more iconic power stance in metal than Hetfield.
Liam from the Cancer Bats, and Rody from Protest the Hero were some of my absolute favorite frontmen. Their stage presence was always insane, whether at the small venues or bigger venues like Heavy MTL. ❤
Plus Liam is a fucking RAD dude too
@@dtucker666 absolutely!! Definitely a guy you'd want to hang with.
Hahahaha Corey Taylor was mentioned first! I knew I loved your channel for a reason!
Caleb shomo is the best front man I’ve ever seen live. That dude is a straight up rock star and had the crowd going absolutely nuts.
Found your channel a couple months ago. Great stuff, Finn. Appreciate the content.
Officially throwing Danny Elfman in the ring. Dude is actually a pretty good singer, guitarist, percussionist, etc., and is super charismatic. If you ever had the chance to see Oingo Boingo live, or at the very least see some concert footage, you can clearly see how great he is.
(Also, the rest of the band is freakishly good as well. They don't get taken seriously because, well, Boingo, but they are amazing.)
We all know Finn would never cover Danny Elfman
@@ForestDumper666 Well, no, but that doesn't mean we should stop trying.
“Do I want to have them over to watch UFC and look at TikToks together??”
That’s fucking hilarious. Much appreciated Finn your takes are on point.
Good to see some GaGa appreciation, there are so few artists that can diversify so much and pull it off the way that she does.
Nearly every Finn Tier list comes down to three things: did this top the billboard charts, would this be considered trendy on Tik Tok, and does the band accept progressive lib worldview (excluding capitalism because Finn has an MBA)
If you think I’m a lib you don’t pay very close attention tbh
Is the guy who did a nazi salute on stage while shouting "white power!", who wore t-shirts with racist slogans and who routinely used Confederate imagery truly a racist? I guess we'll never know
This is the first video I've seen of you. And you absolutely killed it. S tier
Thank you!
James Hetfield ultimate S tier. I am definitely biased, but 100% checks every box. Talented, obviously. Totally influential. Charismatic, check. And friend worthy? Absolutely! Very down to earth, and if he's your buddy, I'm sure you would be able to save money on auto issues with his ability to build cars. Papa Het🤘!!!
Totally agree but Metallica did collectively sue the Internet, computers, and young people at the same time.
@@mikekirby2085 To be fair, James has later lamented how they handled it. They basically all just let Lars deal with it as he saw fit, and James and Lars are polar opposites in many respects (I still respect Lars as a songwriter overall, and he seems to clearly be a marketing ace, but damn is he also a douche LOL).
@@crazydud3380 yeah rumor has it they had a better deal with their label to get a bigger share of the cd sales money vs other bands. Hence the vigorous defense of cd sales. Totally agree with you as well. It always did seem to be Lars complaining with 3 guys hanging out behind him wishing they were elsewhere. Ive always admired Hetfield because it always felt like he was the heart and soul of the band. Look at how he was with Miley Cyrus on Stern. That was proud Papa Het at his finest.
James never wanted to be a frontman and originally needed Dave to talk to the audience for him, seriously gotta respect how much he improved while still maintaining a more down to Earth vibe than most people fronting the biggest metal band in the world would.
@@lordtrigon1733 not to mention they were super young when their first few albums came out.
Oh man, I can't wait for more of this! Do like an hour long episode and I'd be down.
my bias would put Billie Joe Armstrong at S-Tier, but considering the wide world of leads i completely understand if he's A tier or B tier
1. he is definitely a stellar songwriter, while guitar is his preference he has shown chops with other instruments, from 1988-2005 his vocals were not exactly top tier but i love it and can sing along to it while from 2006-on his voice has evolved to a dynamic pop voice
2. excellent stage presence, gets the fans involved in the show, still very energetic but definitely not as wild nowadays as in 1993-1996. also anyone who saw the instagram response to someone stealing his car can say that he's got a really good head on his shoulders despite his drunken outburst on iHeartRadio (which i actually kinda liked)
3. i would want him to be my cool uncle who gets me into music. i also just look at his family life as an example of what i would want to strive for.
Great Vid, but how can someone say that Gerard Way ISN'T a fantastic vocalist? I do not understand this. He's the only one I really disagree with. I'd definetely place him in S by far, but otherwise I think all the placements make sense!
I have a soft spot for Sugar Ray. The band used SuperCat on Fly which was too….i dont know what. Too dangerous for white people so the radio would play the SuperCat free version.
And he absolutely owned Music Jeopardy on VH1. It was like the far side comic with God winning.
Mark McGrath was the OG gigachad
@@real30yearoldboomerhours53 omg youre right. Would that make him like the TeraChad?