That was definitely an amazing speech and very informative! Congratulations to these guys who hosted this restricted keys topic etc! And in my experience they were dead on with everything!
This is an insanely good run through of this exploit. I've been talking about this for years and no one really believed me that it would be this easy. Glad to know someone out there has just totally crapped on "restricted" keys.
Wow, this was a good talk. Shame that is has so little views and likes. I am curious about how often master keys to masterkey lock boxes get compromised? In many cities the fire/maintenance services have a master key that will open a small key-safe with a building master key that is placed near the main access of, typically commercial, building to provide access on weekends. What is used to keep these fire service UBER MASTER keys safe and un-duplicated? All one has to do is compromise one of the key safes and make a new key that will provide access to all the commercial buildings in a city.
How can I message you guys? I have thought of all these ideas myself, and even abused some of them to get a master to my school before I even knew any of these flaws existed.
46:18 Where the actual HELL did these guys find a copy-milling tool for under $700 USD?! I use a home made jig with a dremel tool and a probe on the other end for copying hand-made miniature fictional firearm models that I use for a tabletop mecha game (They're about the size of your standard key, but about twice as thick), and even just the jig I made cost like $140 in materials (not counting the dremel tool)! (Seriously, the jig I made is moderately accurate, but still nowhere NEAR professional. If someone knows where to find a quality machine like this that fits in my ~$400 budget, let me know! That'd be a HUGE step up in quality, so I wouldn't have to do touch-up work in a bench mill on all my copy-milled roughs.)
It would seem that any rational 2-man rule site would use two DIFFERENT bittings so cutting a MULTILOCK or ABLOY in half will likely not provide any benefit unless both security locks are keyed alike.
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That was definitely an amazing speech and very informative! Congratulations to these guys who hosted this restricted keys topic etc! And in my experience they were dead on with everything!
Great work.
This is an insanely good run through of this exploit. I've been talking about this for years and no one really believed me that it would be this easy. Glad to know someone out there has just totally crapped on "restricted" keys.
I wish I could find the key duplicator on eBay they mentioned!
Very informative. Thanks
I’ve made duplicate keys for bi lock and m-3.
Wow, this was a good talk. Shame that is has so little views and likes.
I am curious about how often master keys to masterkey lock boxes get compromised?
In many cities the fire/maintenance services have a master key that will open a small key-safe with a building master key that is placed near the main access of, typically commercial, building to provide access on weekends. What is used to keep these fire service UBER MASTER keys safe and un-duplicated? All one has to do is compromise one of the key safes and make a new key that will provide access to all the commercial buildings in a city.
How can I message you guys? I have thought of all these ideas myself, and even abused some of them to get a master to my school before I even knew any of these flaws existed.
46:18
Where the actual HELL did these guys find a copy-milling tool for under $700 USD?!
I use a home made jig with a dremel tool and a probe on the other end for copying hand-made miniature fictional firearm models that I use for a tabletop mecha game (They're about the size of your standard key, but about twice as thick), and even just the jig I made cost like $140 in materials (not counting the dremel tool)!
(Seriously, the jig I made is moderately accurate, but still nowhere NEAR professional. If someone knows where to find a quality machine like this that fits in my ~$400 budget, let me know! That'd be a HUGE step up in quality, so I wouldn't have to do touch-up work in a bench mill on all my copy-milled roughs.)
It would seem that any rational 2-man rule site would use two DIFFERENT bittings so cutting a MULTILOCK or ABLOY in half will likely not provide any benefit unless both security locks are keyed alike.
Id go a step further and use two different key systems
MultiLock Captive is my keys I have a key card for more keys