Gamers: Xianyun is fine. She can open some doors to some interesting comps... but we need to be honest with the numbers and her value compared to other characters the game.
@@Viewer13128 but it kind of still misses the point. She doesn't increase the ceiling of the meta. Instead she raises the floor on a lot of characters making them viable in the hardest content. Hoyo said the goal was to open up more viable teams and playstyles. They did that. It's fine if you don't care about that, but honestly, if you have the current meta teams and Hoyo doesn't do some serious nerfing, you never need to pull for anyone ever again. I can easily put together 6+ team combos that can clear the abyss without issue. At the point, I just want fun ways to switch it up.
Highlights: 0:34 EVERYONE IS LYING! 0:54 Stop...STOP! Stop right now! Look at me! 2:50 Cloud disclaimer 3:54 Roasting Ayaka's haircut 4:19 OMG THIS CHARACTER IS CRAZY 5:36 .!. 5:53 You're wrong 7:37 Mental breakdown 10:33 SHING SHING SHING 11:03 NOOOO! 12:46 POV: You're a WW2 Tank driver 16:12 I choose violence 21:13 Moment of self-awareness
Guys this is serious i think. He looks kinda ill here and needs to maybe take a break or step back. Hes displaying highly unhinged and paranoid behavior. Guy is basically breaking in real time. Dont egg him on to continue and instead encourange him to take care of himself. I dunno
@@dicksteel4183 It's not something we can help with ig... He just keeps asking to make newer characters better. That will make older characters useless, and hoyo is never doing that. But he still need to keep playing and making vids. Can't blame him
@@EllaNonimatoyes.. way to fun to not use especially doing everything in the world like dailies explorations etc.. 😂 actually makes the game fun just do get on doing noting important.. I’m c1’ing her just for that too
@@notmo. I don't know what's worse, the "[insert thing here] CHANGES EVERYTHING" stuff, or the "[insert thing here] IS WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT" stuff. Both are pretty bad, and when I watched this video it gave me the same vibes as his initial review of Yaoyao (who's honestly way stronger than he thought), which is to say: a little sussed out. I'd recommend going to do your own research on Xianyun and whether or not she adds value to your account using your own data. She might be exactly what you need, or she might be a luxury pull (like me with Shenhe/Ganyu). Either way, it's up to you.
I stopped having FOMO and playing genshin because of what happened to Dehya. I'm really liking Star Rail and Arknights at the moment. Also I hope genshin rewards get better cuz I don't like seeing loyal fans getting mistreated and undervalued. Also what's your favorite weapon?
Yeah. It made me feel better. I am saving for Furina. I was tempted to pull for Xianyun after watching the videos. Now I am good waiting for the Furina rerun.
It's so funny looking back on this now that people realize Xianyun is good. It's hilarious how this guy lacks an understanding of the current meta due to barely playing the game (why he's still stuck on the Hyperbloom is more OP than literally everything else besides Neuvilette take), spends maybe a mere 30-40 minutes while live on his Twitch stream testing the new character, then rushes out these half-assed videos day 1 for the sake of the TH-cam algorithm... All the while throwing shade at other content creators because apparently he's the only one being "honest" (despite many other guide creators out there who far spend more time trying to put out higher quality information) and acting like other content creators are purposely lying to hype up the character (from the latest HSR media server drama, we can clearly see that this whole forced positivity shill for Hoyoverse nonsense narrative that Tectone/Mtashed try to push doesn't hold any water, sponsored creators can say negative things about the characters but can't just start outright slandering). He did the same with his "CHIORI Feels like a 5-star GEO XINYAN TIER CHARACTER" video (this is just disingenuous clickbait nonsense as she is nowhere close to being that bad). He also did the same with his "horribly downvoted day 1 Furina video where again, he spent a mere ~30 minutes on his Twitch stream with her (I was there), had a garbage Tenacity set for her instead of a proper Golden Troupe set for her (because he barely plays the game and didn't farm lmao), didn't mention or understand her interactions with Marechausse Hunter, heavily downplayed her personal damage due to his garbage set, did very limited team comp testing and didn't even explore many of her good team options and synergies with other characters, and then got mad when people criticized him for it, attributing it to just a bunch of delusional Furina/Genshin stans that can't take criticism of their character. How can you expect people to take your opinions seriously when you can't even be bothered to do your due diligence to get a full grasp on the character you are covering and then get mad when they don't? Obviously anyone like that who is harassing/insulting him because they feel offended over a fictional character is lame and needs to go outside (there are definitely some, this IS the Genshin community we're talking about), but at the same time bro needs a reality check. Either put proper effort into making your guides/first impression videos like plenty of other CCs that I could name, or don't complain when you inevitably get criticized for being bad at your job and putting out bad information. And no, while the lack of access to the Genshin media server that other CCS can access is a disadvantage, it isn't an all encompassing excuse. Leaked character kits are known for a whole 6 weeks before the character drops and you can just delve into theorycrafting spaces yourself to learn or closely consult those who do so to get more accurate impressions. I don't see Zajef suffering from a lack of success despite not having access to test characters until release date due to his decision to cover leaks....but Mtashed doesn't do so because that would take more effort to help him stand out from the competition. I used to give Mtashed the benefit of the doubt cause he honestly seems like a mature, down to earth guy outside of his Genshin meltdowns, but with his constant bad takes and his never ending "I'm quitting" shtick that he's continuing once again for the hundredth time with Acheron in HSR, I just can't take him seriously anymore. I'll just keep enjoying the clown show I guess.
I find her kinda cool as a veteran player, because she opens some fun teams and playstile. I have all core units to 36 the abyss under 1h every two weeks so I do not care if she is meta or not.
@@moonykash I get that she's not as account defining as someone like Kazuha or Nahida, but I think she could actually be a high value pull for a newer player; she can enable a lot of characters to become a strong DPS and when your account doesn't have a lot of those, that can be pretty valuable. Lots of new players are using Noelle, Chongyun, Razer, etc. and she makes them much more viable for harder content. Lots of the best characters require a pretty strict team comps that a new player may not have.
So I got cloud retainer, but I already have so many dps characters and I wanted to spice it up with a new character that looked goofy. DEFINITELY not as nuts as people are saying but she's still fun. And that's what players need to understand, she's FUN not GAMEBREAKING
She enables a bunch of fun stuff but she isn't broken and to be honest I don't think she needs to be either. If anything she could be future proof if they release some insane plunge dps at some point.
Even if she's not op, I like the fact that Hoyo is bringing new characters to establish new play styles and make older long forgotten characters stronger.
Same! Opening up new play styles is definitely a welcome addition, and she looks very nice! This is better than getting constant powercreep, and still gives value to getting old characters, especially when you have favourites.
Man abyss is not even the 1% of the overall game, idk why people bother tagging Big DMG character or supporter as OP character. I would rather pull xianyun than furina or kazuha cause she brings new playstyle.
@@Arashish17Abyss for veteran players is almost 80% of the genshin impact. You sre right about playstyle though. Peiple should pull for the characters whose playstyle they enjoy since almost every character can 36 star the abyss. But wrong of you to assume that only Xianyun introduces a new playstyle. Furina literally cured tge curse of circle impact. People are finally freed from the tyranny of benny boy because of her. Not to mention she gives the biggest buff in the game without needing to do crazy setups.
And also maybe it's the start of plunging damage dealers and we might get someone in the future who's really good with cloud retainer. They can't stay with bloom and hyper bloom forever and things change with time. Maybe no reaction is gonna be better than the dendro ones but the change is inevitable and there will be things that are equally good as dendro reaction if not better.
completely unhinged take. the versatility that cloud retainer has and the team comps she opens up makes her incredibly good, not to mention the overworld mobility that she provides. plunge is FUN + very strong and she enables characters that really couldn't be a dps and had mid teams in the past to clear with relatively low investment, also she heals. what else can you ask for in a character.
Well he's a pretty bad scientist because he made numerous errors, doesn't even understand you have to plunge on her skill to get the 5 particles and he continues to think Furina is mid-tier.
@@Goujikiwhen did he say furina is mid teir? or when did made the argument about the 5 energy? you just decided to make shit up and get angry at nothing
The fun factor is the only thing I consider this days cause as you said you can clear the game already so there's no reason to aim for the cracked units anymore. Which is a good and a bad thing. At least Cloud Restrainer and Gaming boy have fun buttons to press.
But he mentions this on the vídeo, does not like to plunge, for this reason does not have Xiao, already has amazing units, for these reason it is a skip for him.
This is exactly why I c1 her - because her elementar skill makes so much fun. Also I am a bird lover so she is a must have for me. If she is mid or bad idc people also said the exact same to Baizhu and I pulled for him on his first banner (also waited years for him).
yes, but his main point is that these 1d10t youtubers super hype ever fkng character hoyoshit create. That's not helping the players, that's helping themselves since they are being payed. I don't listen to those liars and block them from my account.
Cloud Disclaimer or not, some of these QoL changes are less important than others (i’m aware of that), but MOST of them are really crucial that should have been already implemented by now. It’s been 3 years already. - saveable artifact preset loadouts - endgame content other than Abyss - improved kits of certain character kits - artifact substat reroll once artifact reaches level 20 - artifact main stat selector, or a way to target the artifact main stat wanted. - potable crafting table - 5* standard selector - 5*geo character in Standard Banner - access to buy previous 4* event weapons - add Tighnari’s bow & Dehya’s claymore in Standard pool - increased artifact inventory - access to previous lore events - more load limit for teapot - increased resin cap, or - increased resin rate regen - increased condensed resin limit - automatic saving of overflow resin into condensed resin - more frequent new skins - weapon skins - auto collect artifacts from investigation spots - auto collect enemy drops - improve geo, fix crystallize - improve physical - fix geo constructs clunky casting - reactions between elements with no reactions (doesn’t have to be offensive reactions) - more Encounter Points task options for the commission system - option to make mini-seelie quiet - option to on/off idle animation voice-lines - inter-boss drops dream solvent transmutations, not just intra-boss - increased story keys cap - share the crowd control/grouping abilities to non-Anemo characters - lessen long wordy unnecessarily long dialogs in quests - less Paimon talking; more Traveler talking - better pity system - reduce overall RNG in in-game drops - faster healing near Statue of Seven - increase number of Acquaint & Intertwined Fates we can buy in Paimon shop using Masterless StarDust (why just 5 per month?) - separate section for previous BP namecards that people can’t get or buy anymore - less long list of Teapot Depot items; use 5-column list instead one 1-column long list; scrolling down to the bottom is a nightmare experience - “obtain all” and “craft again” button for finished teapot furnishings - “craft again” for blacksmith group orders - additional pin map design options - less time waiting on boss respawn - be able to claim in-game items even in co-op - be able to pet dogs/cats - be able to switch sequence of saved preset party loadouts - be able to use condensed resin on bosses - be able to check and change weapon/artifacts of characters in team selection interface in spiral abyss - add new 4* characters we can buy from Paimon shop - skip button on scenes - complete constellations of Aloy - Epitomized Fate for featured 4*s (characters and weapons) - I may have missed some more.
I'd be really happy to see buffs to older characters in the form of a new endgame evolution/transformation. Perhaps mid combat awakened forms, and new challenging combatants to take advantage of these. I also wouldn't mind Hoyo adding mounts into the game, allowing us to buy them or slowly unlock them over time. Some randomized dungeons that players can slowly grind daily quest levels of primo's each week would be great and test the speed/power of their hard-earned teams. More voice acting on quests other than main storyline, it wont break the bank, and the word salads/paragraphs of text in side quests make skipping them the only sane option.
Genshin is not a game where you pull for god tier units because there's nothing to worry about to begin with, Cloud Disclaimer is as good as the next 5 star. Also, nobody who respects themselves plays Genshin anymore nor should you pull or spend money, at least until Hoyo acts like they give a fuck about their player base.
Some people find fun in stability 😂 As a geo main, used same teams for 2 years before Navia. Now i use on one team more! Yey! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING! 😂
The same team can clear ALL CONTENT IN THE GAME.. Unless you are looking for more variety, which is perfectly fine.. If one team can cover all content... Why change it up much? Hyperblooms introduction and the existence of some characters since the games inception haven't been particularly "healthy" for this games already low difficulty really...
Xianyun is not meant to break the meta , she's meant to create new fun playstyle that can still be competitive when it comes to end game content , and just because we have strong 4 star teams doesn't mean a 5 stars characters are not worth it , you can easily clear with a 4 star hyperbloom team and ppl still pulls for nahida , xiangling is an amazing free pyro dps and ppl still pulls for hutao and lyney .. the most important thing in this game is if you find a unite fun or not
As a day one player I have the luxury to choose characters for different reasons. And I choose her as a flexible teamwide anemo healer that makes overworld movements more convenient
Amen same, My jean works out just fine on my Furina, Hutao team but Xianyun makes it fun and new because of the plunge and her skill for exploration. Sure that team can beat the Ab content but it ain't that fun. I need something fresh every two months
As a massive Clown Retainer simp, I can tell you she's fun and definitely has potential to be crazy in the future if they add more high plunge attack scaling characters, but right now she's just okay. She is not a must pull by any means. Don't feel bad for skipping her, and don't feel bad for pulling her. I would definitely classify her as a niche meme character. Not as niche or as meme as say something like Shenhe/Chongyun (lmao) but a niche meme nonetheless. She enables a few teams and improves a few teams but nothing major. If you're one-shotting floor 12 of abyss blindfolded with one hand behind your back, there's no reason to feel bad about pulling her. If you're struggling to beat floor 10, she's going to do exceptionally little to help your account outside of overworld exploration.
Honestly after everything I seen with her. Unless you find her hot or plan on using her in specific teams ( like with xiao ) there’s no damn reason to even bother getting her. But then again at the end of the day…the game is easy.
Her with c6 Bennet and xingqiu makes most characters pretty strong so that's not true, quite the contrary in fact. Not to mention anemo full party healer so furina owners stay winning
can we end this in 2024 ? its not a buff - This is the only game community that calls optimize teams buff as well as better equipment. Like your turning into a pretzel to feel good about something thats not even the case.
THANK YOU for confirming what I've been feeling with her. She's cool, flamboyant, does awesome with the new plunge attack for everyone thing. But after trying her out in the trial just didn't do it right for me. Was deciding on between her or Yae Miko. Left it to the RnG god to decide for me, and glad I lost to Mona C1. So yeah, maybe next time Xianyun, gonna get my Yae Miko next phase.
I'm glad people are adressing this, like with no content to clear after a decent ammount of investment for artifacts, does it really change anything if u use idk who to clear content? when we don't have the content? no lol , people calling characters new content is crazy outside of just collection status, nothing changes. Great video.
they are new contents though, each with a different play style. it's not Xianyun's problem if you don't like easy exploration or plunge atk for every character
I already expect this. The "I can clear anything with National and Hyperbloom, so why would i recommend anything" mentality that leads him to skip Neuvilette. And then this mentality leads him to "have fun" with c2 Raiden Hyperbloom.
I don't think I've watched a single video of him where he doesn't have something to whine about. I stopped watching his videos years ago when it felt it he'd never just be happy playing the game. Sucks to see he's still the same
@Strashky I laughed so much because I actually got her in exactly 3 pulls. The moment this happened, I was already memeing in my head about the genshin shitty 3 pulls for 3 years.
@@matthewmatthewsons6197But the fun of Diluc is weaving his E. I mean if you're just doing plunge attacks, whats the difference between Diluc, Noelle, Chongyun, etc?
Honestly we’re passed the point with so many characters and op teams and theory crafting that i dont even care about meta i just want fun. Her teams seem quite fun and unique, good enough for me at this point 🤷♂️
You say that but then you need such specific teams for her to actually be her 100% unlike other units. She has potential they did her so dirty let’s be honest
@@fart4453I don't really agree I think they did her fine at worst she's a Jean side grade in furina teams and at most she's a significant upgrade to anyone that can use both furina and plunging like diluc or wriothesly or hu tao now I guess you can say they did her dirty if you don't have furina but you can say the same about any of the sumeru 5 stars if you don't have nahida cause most just turn into mid slop in a bloom related team with the acception of wanderer cause he doesn't use dendro
@@osama9501 I mean, I am not saying that she doesn’t look good. But she only has a few pros and one of them is she looks good. I just found it way too funny.
@@Qilin2309Wanderer is still the best for exploration then Yelan. Sadly Xianyubn is only at same level at Kazuha, Xiao or Venti when it comes to exploration unless you get her c1
True hoyo's fully committed to releasing characters that'd get dogged on if not for the existence of furina😆 but since there is a furina they're pretty meta and viable. First was baizhu, now xiangyun, I'm expecting they'll release one for each element
Not sure what youre talking about the camera thing, i also dont see how cloud retainer is more flexible besides buffing plunge (given i barely know her kit so i would actually love if you explained for me)
Finally someone who is not sugarcoating, really sick of content creator just calling her insane, broken, it sucks for people like me who is on the fence about whether it is worth it to pull for her or not
Do you like her character design? Pull her. Do you want to future proof and can afford the primos? Pull her. Are you on the fence over her vs Nahida? Well, one of them is an Archon 😂
Mtashed doesn't know how to play the game bro. He said Furina is mid. He just hates Genshin and does a half-assed job at evaluating characters because he doesn't give a shit about Genshin. All in all, if you trust Mtashed takes, you're hyper casual... but the if you're hyper casual, why watch Mtashed? Cuz all he does is shit on hyper casuals who play Genshin lol.
If you are new to the game just get nahida. Xianyun is basically a premium unit for characters like hutao, xiao, klee, etc... A big but non needed dps increase (see it as getting a shenhe for your dps cryo unit). She might see even more light in the future but rn If you don't like plunging she's def not worth it.
But if you fit in: Really Like hutao(better than c1 btw)/klee/xiao/diluc/... No skill issue Has no ploblem with plunges Wants a good (and unnecessary) dps increase to a specifc character She's a good option
One of my major gripes is the stinginess and forced scarcity tactics. The game is pumping out all these characters and to level them up to high levels you need a lot of scarce resin AND time-gated materials. Some materials can only be collected once a week. It would be fun to try some characters out but you have to go through this whole process...and that doesn't even account for the artifacts.
Im just mad that the moment i opened hoyolab and saw like 20 posts of people getting xianyun and some even c6ing her makes me have no hope for this "boycot"
This video gives me the same vibes as when I heard his initial opinion on Yaoyao. Same comparisons too, just more of the "Just Use National" crap that - after 3 years of service - just isn't a mandate anymore. I can 36-star abyss with Tighnari 2x Dendro and Neuvilette Hypercarry, the National comparison is just hot dook-dook garbo nowadays. Take it with a grain of salt, if you're unsure of a unit's value to your account the only way to tell is to do your own ressearch and make your own assumptions.
@@arocomisgamusclademork1603maybe for overworld but depending on the character it doesn’t really matter because well invested supporters can kill most enemies with their skills alone
@@treysmith9371 I just get so damn tired of the "But Xiangling/Xingqiu" crap because that's ALWAYS the go to, to say a character is crap. It's been his modus operandi for a literal year (again, he pulled the same crap with Yaoyao on her debut), and it's just tiring.
Honestly this could be a cool series going forward as a kind of "before you buy" to all the new charecters in genshin because with it being in all the content creators best interest to hype up interest it would be cool to have a high quality opposing end where you try and get people to save there primos
You make some good points, but I think what's missing from this take is what she can do while also healing, freeing up party slots and allowing players to make some teams feel a lot more comfortable. The meme comps are fun to watch but are not better than how most of the characters are intended to play.
I love Mtashed and his guides BUT, he always gives advice for new players while other creators advice for veteran players aswell (like myself) I dont need any other characters because I have most of the other meta characters, I just need fun characters and ones that enables units that are old and not very much used. And of course xiangling, benny, xq will clear anything in the game, you don't need anyone else, you will never pull if you have this mindset. I see his point if you are a new player there are way better units than her, but his arguments are ALWAYS for new players only. With all that said, love your videos tashman
And he's right to do that to be honest, who do you think is most misled by a title that says "WOW XIANYUN IS INSANE PULL NOW", someone who knows how the game works and what each unit does and has the capacity to assess if he wants said character OR a new player with all the shop primos uncleared that just wants to make his account stronger ASAP ? I honestly think the latter, and a lot of content creators dont seem to take that into account, plus indeed xianyun would be a horrible pick for a new account, especially with nahida being present. Not trying to be disingenuous just giving you the other perspective !
Yes, this I'm a vet and have been 36 starring the abyss since before Inazuma. People turd Ayato because he's a jack of all. New players want consolidation
@amnitole2796 I see your point, and I agree honestly, a lot of creators will say "This unit is insane pull NOW" just for the views and thats misleading for a lot of people. I just think Mtashed should say more clearly that, Xianyum for example, is a unit for long time players or if you just dont care abt meta at all. Sometimes he push too far into the joke of thrash talking a unit (which I enjoy the joke) but for an easy game like this, I dont think it should matter this much
no, other youtubers advice ALWAYS to get every fkng character hoyolame comes up. Revise the "WOW BAIZHU IS INCREDIBLE!!!!! PULL NOW!!!" And if they are targeting veterans they should say so. But nop, because they are being payed by Hoyolame. They are the bias.
mtashed takes new players more into consideration than veterans, if youre new, she wont do you much, if youre a veteran, she gives you a new way to play. Im a veteran and im getting her because playing the same teams over and over gets stale
thank you Mtashed for giving a different side of perspective from others and being the guy with the advice to improve your account efficiently but I will still pull for Xianyun because of how cool and fun she looks.
So, I’ve been thinking of pulling her, but I’ve been waiting to see the initial response to her. My account only has two 5*s currently. Xiao and Kazuha. When I heard she would be Xiao’s support, I was very excited, because I still use him as my main dps. But running him with a battery and a healer and all this stuff is annoying sometimes. So I haven’t been sure. Ive also been strongly considering pulling for nahida, cuz I’ve heard of how good she is, and I only have one other dendro unit rn, but I don’t know if I have good units to run with her.
I'm totally here for the unhinged 'call out the theorycrafters' era. As someone who also enjoys videos from theorycrafters like Zajef, it's just nice and fun to get your counter perspective as well. Seems really important to remember that there's very little powercreep in the game, so even if Xianyun is good there's so many other options that are also good or better.
I think Showcases should try and use the same level artifacts across all content creator accounts, because a lot of FtP clears or showcases just use crazy artifacts which make them look stronger than what most people would get.
I think Xianyun's pretty okay not amazing not bad but more of a fun/luxury unit or sidegrade but knowing how the playerbase generally is, fun mechanic + big screenshot damage numbers is gonna get a lot o people. I've pulled back from discussions too mostly because of how glorified "the calcs" and numbers can get while most of the other less easily measurable factors where usually dropped from discussions.
Understand the opinion. As a kazuha/sucrose haver, she does not give more dmg. (I mostly only watch u). To me, unlocking a new playstale, gives character a lot more points IMHO
I agree, having a new playstyle/ having older units become more usable is more fun and she is more then abyss viable with the buffs she gives. My abyss teams have been the same for a long time now, so it is nice to have a change and go back to my older units. She is not for everyone but she is far from trash.
No hate from me my guy , love your vids but I think you need to take off the blinkers and stop focusing on pure power and comparison to other units . Of course there will be stronger and better units , always . The point is she opens up a different/fun/new play-style . I honestly do not think people are hyping her up too much . I think people are relatively happy with her kit and performance . Diluc can now plunge whenever , is that game-breaking ? no, but its something brand new . Xuinqui + Diluc have been slamma jammin for years at this point , its old and tired . Her design is stunning , she has a cool triple jump skill , if you have the primos and want her then go for it . Genshin is a brain-dead game , lets Unga Bunga a bit :3
Shenhe more op? Look I love her, but are we talking about the same Shenhe that literally works with two characters, at best? Lord Jesus this community is dumb sometimes lmao
@@yt_Giuseppebruh ikr mans compared a cryo enhancing queen to a generalistic plunge attack buff. Look im not counting numbers but last time i checked there are only a set amount of viable cryo dps units, when the entire cast has a plunge attack. Not saying all plunge attacks are equal far from it but the scope is way bigger than "cryo numbers only"
I honestly just used my guarantee to get Nahida's second constellation. Adds more value to my Dendro teams and account overall. Was at 53 pity and had to go all the way up to 80 pity(again), but I got her. Now I'm saving up for Chlorinde or a rerun that I want.
I'm glad I pulled for her. She's saved me countless times trying to get through world level 3 through the main quests. I love her main flying ability so she gets away from some of the big attacks briefly to plunge down at the enemy, and it can be used for gaining some height for climbing etc. She's a good character, really.
Facts. If u got the primos for her and reallly want her, dew it. But if youre swiping for this character at the current state of the game, Hoyo has got u by the balls 😂😂😂
@@Buckheimer What's wrong with current state of the game? Genshin isn't perfect, and there are many things I wish they added, but streamers throwing a tantrum over free rolls and streamer simps mindlessly mimicking all that outrage is hilarious to me 🤣
@@e.t.291 seriously? After they proved to u so many times tht they CLEARLY have no care for the game, and is putting the least amount of efforts into improving the game, taking years to put in the simplest QoL changes, and evn making a WHOLE NEW GAME where theyve implement all the things tht their genshin player base wanted, u seriously think u shud still be gambling ur money away into this game tht theyre very clearly using to just milk their player base? Its more than just about the freemos my man.
@@Buckheimer idk what you're talking about, I'm exploring Chenyu Vale rn and having a great time 🥰 Maybe Genshin just isn't your type of game. Try HSR or FGO instead?
Bro just one thing who said about her being better? Genshin community nowadays only wants new mechanics not a replacement of buffer or supports cause they always come every year so people wants something that can keep them interested in the game My opinion only
That’s just it he was critiquing the content creators who were portraying her as being that way. He said if you want a different play style then your all good
@@zippy3718 exactly people should not say that this will be monster support and other bullshit every character us unique in their own way Stop the god damn comparing game
@@fragils2727is xianyun was a good pick or not Heres my answer. If you doesnt mind use your pull or "build pity" go for it no one stops you. If you are xiao main PULL cuz xiao constelation suck( aproved by normal tall hamdsome streamer and guide maker Zyox) If none of these reason exist then feel free to skip chiori arlechino clorinde still not out
I think people just need to learn that we have so many characters in game so we could just chose those who we really like. None of them really a “must have” and you definitely don’t need all of them.
one thing mtashed fails to realise about cloud retainer is that she's pretty much exactly like shenhe but for plunging in general instead of just cryo and ca's. she basically replaces shenhe's elemental buff with a heal over time that synergises with both the character she was made to support, xiao, and one of, if not, the best in slot support for the team, furina. filling the slots of a pseudo battery, healer and damage buffer in 1 slot is extremely valuable when going for this playstyle, but it's completely understandable if constantly plunging isn't your playstyle. take bennett in international for example. he helps xiangling by generating pyro particles, increases the team's damage with his ult + noblesse and heals the active character. she also enables the plunge playstyle for other teams while supporting it if anyone is interested in experimenting, so there's that too.
The cope is hard in this one. Bro if you like her its ok,but she is lower Mid support. Why would you put her in any other team except for Xiao ,maybe only if you dont have Jean for Furina teams. That is the only scenario where she is viable . She is bad if she at least kept her grouping abilty and they made it stronger than she would be slightly better than Jean.
Another person commented this as a paraphrase or summary of the video: "No new character is worth pulling for because these old characters clear the game", saved you 20 minutes. And I think it was a poorly made summary of a person who just skimmed through the video instead of watching it whole. I'm not really a fan of Mtashed but I will admit he is funny. Anyway, here is my reply to the guy who made the poorly made summary, I think this is like a more accurate summary of what he talks about in the video. Incorrect, because he talked about Neuvillete which he said was "Busted, deserving of the hype and praise because of his powercreep, and quality of life (just standing there and pressing charge attacks instead of doing dash cancels for after plunge). There were many variables mentioned not just "I can clear just as fast as Xiangling, Xingqiu, Bennett, therefore she does not give me any value" and according to his word usage "I cannot in my right mind recommend this to new players" (which most likely do not have a lot of the old characters) his target audience for this advice/ video were the newer players who doesn't not spend a lot in the game.
what makes her not for new players though? She's pretty good, and even with barely any investment I got her to hit like 5-7k which is more than enough for a new player with low level enemies. There's no downsides to this character other than an energy problem. She's not bad for new players, hell i'd say she's perfect for new players.
Thanks Tashman. I'm sticking to skipping 4.4 banners, and saving for Neuvi and Furi rerun. Also wanted Nahida C2 but may not have enough primos, maybe future reruns.
She is still crazy open world. I got all the tp of the new area with her and even if her e doesn't work in the air (and it should), taking an anemo slot that heals, makes gliding faster and has a good mobility ability makes her awesome open world.
@@cloudwalker9572 definitely agree. She is pretty cool for open world the way she is now, but the fact that you can't use it mid air is so disappointing 😭. I got Kazuha and it's pretty cool using e in the air
Every character can't use E when they are Air-Borne anyway. Genshin's game mechanics are just not like that. yet. edit: ok not including kazuha but everyone other than him can't. at least she can jump three times 😁
I get the concern about powercreep, but the more mid units are added to this game, the harder it is for new players to get the most meta units. It can be pretty discouraging to not have Xingqiu and Bennett or not have Nahida, Yelan, Kazuha, etc. Or have Furina but no decent teamwide healer to pair with her. As a new player, you have to either settle for pulling and building off meta units or be patient enough to save for several months. You don't need meta to clear Spiral Abyss sure, but it still feels bad when you're stuck with non optimal units, especially if you don't particularly like them. HSR has skirted this problem by not being afraid of some modest powercreep while still making sure the limited DPSs are fairly close to each other in strength. Dr. Ratio might be worse than Jingliu overall but the difference is very minor compared to difference between Xianyun and Kazuha, Nahida, etc.
bro is on some mad copium he talks abt leaks often and doesnt even wish on camera to not promote gambling says dont spend money on thsi shit game he also called her pretty good
not gona belive shit said buy a guy with lvl 60 sucrose
Doesn't he have kazuha?
Why, not everyone wants swirl dps sucrose
Im ar56 and i use a lvl 49 sucrose with 4p VV
40*
Pin of half based half dum
"No new character is worth pulling for because these old characters clear the game", saved you 20 minutes.
How silly
Yea but new characters might be more fun to use
In short You're dumb , he is stating that creators are overhyping her when she is mid .
@@racool911 mtashed already said it's okay if you want to get her for fun
@@Viewer13128 but it kind of still misses the point. She doesn't increase the ceiling of the meta. Instead she raises the floor on a lot of characters making them viable in the hardest content. Hoyo said the goal was to open up more viable teams and playstyles. They did that.
It's fine if you don't care about that, but honestly, if you have the current meta teams and Hoyo doesn't do some serious nerfing, you never need to pull for anyone ever again.
I can easily put together 6+ team combos that can clear the abyss without issue. At the point, I just want fun ways to switch it up.
Cloud disclaimer 💀
Erectile Dysfunction 💀💀💀
Highlights:
0:34 EVERYONE IS LYING!
0:54 Stop...STOP! Stop right now! Look at me!
2:50 Cloud disclaimer
3:54 Roasting Ayaka's haircut
4:19 OMG THIS CHARACTER IS CRAZY
5:36 .!.
5:53 You're wrong
7:37 Mental breakdown
10:33 SHING SHING SHING
11:03 NOOOO!
12:46 POV: You're a WW2 Tank driver
16:12 I choose violence
21:13 Moment of self-awareness
This needs to be on top
I like how you just say ! Instead of the Word ☺️😭🤣🤣🤣🤣
So much meme potential in this one video and it’s only January 😭
Also, just because I think it's funny, 5:46 4:44
Pin this 😂😂
Highlights of Xianyun pronunciation:
0:02 - Cloud Misgainer
0:23 - Cloud Mislainer
0:36 - Cloud Mitainer
2:10 - Cloud Clianger?
2:50 - Cloud Disclaimer!
3:40 - Cloud Misdemeamor??
5:36 - Erectile Dysfunction!!!?????????
6:15 - Cloud Miglager???
6:43 - Cloud Retainer (Finally)
7:24 - Cloud Retainer (His learning boys)
9:19 - Cloud Retainer (I'm proud of my guy)
16:55 - Cloud Blainer!???
Nahh this comment is goated
Honestly hearing all the different names he called Xianyun in the video was the true highlight
this is the most psycho mtashed ever been in a video, 10/10 loved it
Guys this is serious i think. He looks kinda ill here and needs to maybe take a break or step back. Hes displaying highly unhinged and paranoid behavior. Guy is basically breaking in real time. Dont egg him on to continue and instead encourange him to take care of himself. I dunno
You should check his fu xuan video 😂
@@dicksteel4183 It's not something we can help with ig... He just keeps asking to make newer characters better. That will make older characters useless, and hoyo is never doing that. But he still need to keep playing and making vids. Can't blame him
theyre already useless lol, most of the chars been ass, esp 4 stars@@playmaker619
@@dicksteel4183 just checked the stream after he recorded this and idk seems pretty chill to me
5:34 y did bro randomly drop in "erectile dysfunction" and moved on 😂💀💀
That caught me off guard ngl😂💀
bro didn't give a fuck
7:02 😂😂😂
Today's Mtashed kinda unhinged and I kinda love it
wish he is like that 24/7, i would watch his vids more
Love it when he's not composed as well 😂
Did bro lost the 50/50 ? He went mad today
It has to be because of his previous video haha
I hope he's ok :DDD crazy guy...
“She’s kinda trash”. Two minutes later “I’m not calling her trash …” lol
Yup like Kazuha and Kokomi.
@@dano_lenobut the thing is she's trash 😂 not like kazu and koko
@@dano_leno still mad of hypocrisy
@@Yugito oh come on people called navia bad because geo and they already dont like chiori. I remember alhaitham doomposts as well..
@@mangshu21 I want chiori lol.
Everyone else is out here having fun
Mtashed is out here fighting DEMONS bro
did you actually saw that everyone is having fun?
@@EllaNonimatoyes, I did. What about it?
@@EllaNonimato
I did. My friends did. My online game friends did too.
@@EllaNonimatoyes.. way to fun to not use especially doing everything in the world like dailies explorations etc.. 😂 actually makes the game fun just do get on doing noting important.. I’m c1’ing her just for that too
Bro thinks he is ken carson
Cloud Disclaimer is crazy
Crowd Exclaimer
Cloud recliner
Clout Retainer
☁️
Cloud refrainer
This changes everything
Every new video of him CHANGES EVERYTHING
This actually changes nothing
Game breaker 🙂
@@notmo. I don't know what's worse, the "[insert thing here] CHANGES EVERYTHING" stuff, or the "[insert thing here] IS WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT" stuff. Both are pretty bad, and when I watched this video it gave me the same vibes as his initial review of Yaoyao (who's honestly way stronger than he thought), which is to say: a little sussed out.
I'd recommend going to do your own research on Xianyun and whether or not she adds value to your account using your own data. She might be exactly what you need, or she might be a luxury pull (like me with Shenhe/Ganyu). Either way, it's up to you.
If people spend money to pull on a glorified plunge attack enabler, no quality changes will come to genshin.
We're still not spending our money
Thanks for this vid. It’s refreshing from all the other vids that made me feel FOMO 😭
I stopped having FOMO and playing genshin because of what happened to Dehya.
I'm really liking Star Rail and Arknights at the moment.
Also I hope genshin rewards get better cuz I don't like seeing loyal fans getting mistreated and undervalued.
Also what's your favorite weapon?
This is how I'm feeling with Honkai Star Rail. Every character is amazing.
Yeah. It made me feel better. I am saving for Furina. I was tempted to pull for Xianyun after watching the videos. Now I am good waiting for the Furina rerun.
@@divyachandhu90 Hope you get her early and win the 50/50
Woah, neat to see you here!
I love how he says her name differently everytime.
It's so funny looking back on this now that people realize Xianyun is good. It's hilarious how this guy lacks an understanding of the current meta due to barely playing the game (why he's still stuck on the Hyperbloom is more OP than literally everything else besides Neuvilette take), spends maybe a mere 30-40 minutes while live on his Twitch stream testing the new character, then rushes out these half-assed videos day 1 for the sake of the TH-cam algorithm... All the while throwing shade at other content creators because apparently he's the only one being "honest" (despite many other guide creators out there who far spend more time trying to put out higher quality information) and acting like other content creators are purposely lying to hype up the character (from the latest HSR media server drama, we can clearly see that this whole forced positivity shill for Hoyoverse nonsense narrative that Tectone/Mtashed try to push doesn't hold any water, sponsored creators can say negative things about the characters but can't just start outright slandering).
He did the same with his "CHIORI Feels like a 5-star GEO XINYAN TIER CHARACTER" video (this is just disingenuous clickbait nonsense as she is nowhere close to being that bad). He also did the same with his "horribly downvoted day 1 Furina video where again, he spent a mere ~30 minutes on his Twitch stream with her (I was there), had a garbage Tenacity set for her instead of a proper Golden Troupe set for her (because he barely plays the game and didn't farm lmao), didn't mention or understand her interactions with Marechausse Hunter, heavily downplayed her personal damage due to his garbage set, did very limited team comp testing and didn't even explore many of her good team options and synergies with other characters, and then got mad when people criticized him for it, attributing it to just a bunch of delusional Furina/Genshin stans that can't take criticism of their character. How can you expect people to take your opinions seriously when you can't even be bothered to do your due diligence to get a full grasp on the character you are covering and then get mad when they don't?
Obviously anyone like that who is harassing/insulting him because they feel offended over a fictional character is lame and needs to go outside (there are definitely some, this IS the Genshin community we're talking about), but at the same time bro needs a reality check. Either put proper effort into making your guides/first impression videos like plenty of other CCs that I could name, or don't complain when you inevitably get criticized for being bad at your job and putting out bad information. And no, while the lack of access to the Genshin media server that other CCS can access is a disadvantage, it isn't an all encompassing excuse. Leaked character kits are known for a whole 6 weeks before the character drops and you can just delve into theorycrafting spaces yourself to learn or closely consult those who do so to get more accurate impressions. I don't see Zajef suffering from a lack of success despite not having access to test characters until release date due to his decision to cover leaks....but Mtashed doesn't do so because that would take more effort to help him stand out from the competition.
I used to give Mtashed the benefit of the doubt cause he honestly seems like a mature, down to earth guy outside of his Genshin meltdowns, but with his constant bad takes and his never ending "I'm quitting" shtick that he's continuing once again for the hundredth time with Acheron in HSR, I just can't take him seriously anymore. I'll just keep enjoying the clown show I guess.
"I'm going to go for c2 Nahida"
7 primogems
he moght be a whale with multiple alts imo
I find her kinda cool as a veteran player, because she opens some fun teams and playstile. I have all core units to 36 the abyss under 1h every two weeks so I do not care if she is meta or not.
Tbf he did say he doesnt wanna hype it up for new players. He doesnt care about people who just wish for whatever reasons
That’s kinda where I’m at lol I got her because I wanted to try something new and it’s Ganyu and Shenhe‘s mom
She jumps so fast ngl, you can navigate difficult landscapes with short cd and she plays smooth like butter, thats all tbh
@@chriscain7333 it does feel good to jump with her for sure I wish the cooldown was like 1 second shorter though and just go crazy with it
@@moonykash I get that she's not as account defining as someone like Kazuha or Nahida, but I think she could actually be a high value pull for a newer player; she can enable a lot of characters to become a strong DPS and when your account doesn't have a lot of those, that can be pretty valuable. Lots of new players are using Noelle, Chongyun, Razer, etc. and she makes them much more viable for harder content. Lots of the best characters require a pretty strict team comps that a new player may not have.
So I got cloud retainer, but I already have so many dps characters and I wanted to spice it up with a new character that looked goofy. DEFINITELY not as nuts as people are saying but she's still fun. And that's what players need to understand, she's FUN not GAMEBREAKING
She enables a bunch of fun stuff but she isn't broken and to be honest I don't think she needs to be either. If anything she could be future proof if they release some insane plunge dps at some point.
Even if she's not op, I like the fact that Hoyo is bringing new characters to establish new play styles and make older long forgotten characters stronger.
Same! Opening up new play styles is definitely a welcome addition, and she looks very nice! This is better than getting constant powercreep, and still gives value to getting old characters, especially when you have favourites.
Man abyss is not even the 1% of the overall game, idk why people bother tagging Big DMG character or supporter as OP character. I would rather pull xianyun than furina or kazuha cause she brings new playstyle.
@@Arashish17Abyss for veteran players is almost 80% of the genshin impact. You sre right about playstyle though. Peiple should pull for the characters whose playstyle they enjoy since almost every character can 36 star the abyss. But wrong of you to assume that only Xianyun introduces a new playstyle. Furina literally cured tge curse of circle impact. People are finally freed from the tyranny of benny boy because of her. Not to mention she gives the biggest buff in the game without needing to do crazy setups.
And also maybe it's the start of plunging damage dealers and we might get someone in the future who's really good with cloud retainer. They can't stay with bloom and hyper bloom forever and things change with time. Maybe no reaction is gonna be better than the dendro ones but the change is inevitable and there will be things that are equally good as dendro reaction if not better.
@@Arashish17 abyss is 99% of the game for everyone that has done everything, hence the problem that made many people quit, no endgame.
Alternate title: Green bird causes mtashed to have a mental breakdown
if green birb bad why hot
@@siliconhawktrue
@@siliconhawk I pulled
based @@webbedmonkey7293
Next video : I was wrong about xianyun
Bruh lost 50/50 💀
Lmao
He isn't wrong tho. She's a useless unit you have to go out of your way to use.
@@crowing3886 thn every unit is useless in that sense...
@@itachi7976Exactly lmao
completely unhinged take. the versatility that cloud retainer has and the team comps she opens up makes her incredibly good, not to mention the overworld mobility that she provides. plunge is FUN + very strong and she enables characters that really couldn't be a dps and had mid teams in the past to clear with relatively low investment, also she heals. what else can you ask for in a character.
That " SHING! 🤺SHING! 🤺SHING! 🤺SHING!🤺" broke me😭
if there was a video that described Mtashed slowing turning into a mad scientist, i would pick this one.
Well he's a pretty bad scientist because he made numerous errors, doesn't even understand you have to plunge on her skill to get the 5 particles and he continues to think Furina is mid-tier.
He even grew that beard
@@Goujiki I would imagine that you are joking with what is thinking about of Furina but sure go ahead man, think about what you want
Dottre expy....😢
@@Goujikiwhen did he say furina is mid teir? or when did made the argument about the 5 energy? you just decided to make shit up and get angry at nothing
If you want every new character to change the meta, you're asking Mihoyo to powercreep.
Which is unnecessary since theres no endgame content LMAAAOOO
Yeahhh, n powercreep is terrible!!!
This is good i think.
Neuvilette ruins many teams imo
Neuvilette is the only powercreep
I’d rather have powercreep than have a brand new $300-$400 five star be worse than 1.0 four stars
Reminder : Dehya and Neuvillette both exist in the same game.
The fun factor is the only thing I consider this days cause as you said you can clear the game already so there's no reason to aim for the cracked units anymore. Which is a good and a bad thing. At least Cloud Restrainer and Gaming boy have fun buttons to press.
But he mentions this on the vídeo, does not like to plunge, for this reason does not have Xiao, already has amazing units, for these reason it is a skip for him.
@@p.c.n.b.6112 Sure, but he's not just saying "skip". Guy is coming unravelled. 😅
This is exactly why I c1 her - because her elementar skill makes so much fun. Also I am a bird lover so she is a must have for me. If she is mid or bad idc people also said the exact same to Baizhu and I pulled for him on his first banner (also waited years for him).
yes, but his main point is that these 1d10t youtubers super hype ever fkng character hoyoshit create. That's not helping the players, that's helping themselves since they are being payed. I don't listen to those liars and block them from my account.
I want her c1 too! She s the most fun to move around the world! But I need to left the primos for my beloved Arlechinno!@@milchteestattkaffee4539
This is "how to make the most of your account" advice, very solid
Cloud Disclaimer or not, some of these QoL changes are less important than others (i’m aware of that), but MOST of them are really crucial that should have been already implemented by now. It’s been 3 years already.
- saveable artifact preset loadouts
- endgame content other than Abyss
- improved kits of certain character kits
- artifact substat reroll once artifact reaches level 20
- artifact main stat selector, or a way to target the artifact main stat wanted.
- potable crafting table
- 5* standard selector
- 5*geo character in Standard Banner
- access to buy previous 4* event weapons
- add Tighnari’s bow & Dehya’s claymore in Standard pool
- increased artifact inventory
- access to previous lore events
- more load limit for teapot
- increased resin cap, or
- increased resin rate regen
- increased condensed resin limit
- automatic saving of overflow resin into condensed resin
- more frequent new skins
- weapon skins
- auto collect artifacts from investigation spots
- auto collect enemy drops
- improve geo, fix crystallize
- improve physical
- fix geo constructs clunky casting
- reactions between elements with no reactions (doesn’t have to be offensive reactions)
- more Encounter Points task options for the commission system
- option to make mini-seelie quiet
- option to on/off idle animation voice-lines
- inter-boss drops dream solvent transmutations, not just intra-boss
- increased story keys cap
- share the crowd control/grouping abilities to non-Anemo characters
- lessen long wordy unnecessarily long dialogs in quests
- less Paimon talking; more Traveler talking
- better pity system
- reduce overall RNG in in-game drops
- faster healing near Statue of Seven
- increase number of Acquaint & Intertwined Fates we can buy in Paimon shop using Masterless StarDust (why just 5 per month?)
- separate section for previous BP namecards that people can’t get or buy anymore
- less long list of Teapot Depot items; use 5-column list instead one 1-column long list; scrolling down to the bottom is a nightmare experience
- “obtain all” and “craft again” button for finished teapot furnishings
- “craft again” for blacksmith group orders
- additional pin map design options
- less time waiting on boss respawn
- be able to claim in-game items even in co-op
- be able to pet dogs/cats
- be able to switch sequence of saved preset party loadouts
- be able to use condensed resin on bosses
- be able to check and change weapon/artifacts of characters in team selection interface in spiral abyss
- add new 4* characters we can buy from Paimon shop
- skip button on scenes
- complete constellations of Aloy
- Epitomized Fate for featured 4*s (characters and weapons)
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I may have missed some more.
I'd be really happy to see buffs to older characters in the form of a new endgame evolution/transformation. Perhaps mid combat awakened forms, and new challenging combatants to take advantage of these. I also wouldn't mind Hoyo adding mounts into the game, allowing us to buy them or slowly unlock them over time. Some randomized dungeons that players can slowly grind daily quest levels of primo's each week would be great and test the speed/power of their hard-earned teams. More voice acting on quests other than main storyline, it wont break the bank, and the word salads/paragraphs of text in side quests make skipping them the only sane option.
Genshin is not a game where you pull for god tier units because there's nothing to worry about to begin with, Cloud Disclaimer is as good as the next 5 star. Also, nobody who respects themselves plays Genshin anymore nor should you pull or spend money, at least until Hoyo acts like they give a fuck about their player base.
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Agreed well said
Exactly, and we're still not spending until some quality changes are made. So get off the hype train and withhold your spending 💪
Amen. Stop spending on Genshin. It is not worth it.
Especially Mtashed put into graveyard
"Plunging is uninteresting" uses same team for 3yrs now😭
Some people find fun in stability 😂
As a geo main, used same teams for 2 years before Navia. Now i use on one team more! Yey! THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING! 😂
cool, your spacebar have best durability😂😂😂. your style your thing❤❤❤
The same team can clear ALL CONTENT IN THE GAME..
Unless you are looking for more variety, which is perfectly fine.. If one team can cover all content... Why change it up much? Hyperblooms introduction and the existence of some characters since the games inception haven't been particularly "healthy" for this games already low difficulty really...
I play Nilou Bloom for a year already, never gets boring.
Unfortunate that the game doesn't have any GOOD end-game content.....oh sorry Spyral Abyss? what is that? A joke?
Xianyun is not meant to break the meta , she's meant to create new fun playstyle that can still be competitive when it comes to end game content , and just because we have strong 4 star teams doesn't mean a 5 stars characters are not worth it , you can easily clear with a 4 star hyperbloom team and ppl still pulls for nahida , xiangling is an amazing free pyro dps and ppl still pulls for hutao and lyney .. the most important thing in this game is if you find a unite fun or not
What end game content?
@@brabbits5308 the game content that makes people think too much before pulling for a character
End game content? Where?
Found the mihoyo empoloyee.
Can't agree more
As a day one player I have the luxury to choose characters for different reasons. And I choose her as a flexible teamwide anemo healer that makes overworld movements more convenient
and that's ok, what's not ok is youtubers calling broken and must pull at every new character hoyolame release.
Amen same, My jean works out just fine on my Furina, Hutao team but Xianyun makes it fun and new because of the plunge and her skill for exploration. Sure that team can beat the Ab content but it ain't that fun. I need something fresh every two months
Sayu can heal, VV shred, and speeds up map movement too. Just recently got a top tier FTP greatsword in an event as well.
As a massive Clown Retainer simp, I can tell you she's fun and definitely has potential to be crazy in the future if they add more high plunge attack scaling characters, but right now she's just okay. She is not a must pull by any means. Don't feel bad for skipping her, and don't feel bad for pulling her.
I would definitely classify her as a niche meme character. Not as niche or as meme as say something like Shenhe/Chongyun (lmao) but a niche meme nonetheless. She enables a few teams and improves a few teams but nothing major. If you're one-shotting floor 12 of abyss blindfolded with one hand behind your back, there's no reason to feel bad about pulling her. If you're struggling to beat floor 10, she's going to do exceptionally little to help your account outside of overworld exploration.
Honestly after everything I seen with her. Unless you find her hot or plan on using her in specific teams ( like with xiao ) there’s no damn reason to even bother getting her. But then again at the end of the day…the game is easy.
Her with c6 Bennet and xingqiu makes most characters pretty strong so that's not true, quite the contrary in fact. Not to mention anemo full party healer so furina owners stay winning
@@sparg_mmyou have to realize that she isn't gonna make your account stronger. You realistically need to save for busted units if you're f2p
@@sparg_mmdo you think everyone is gonna c6 Bennett just because of her???
Isn't it with every character in this game 💀
@@sparg_mm in simple way you mean is just gacha furina skip cloud retainer
7 primos behaviour honestly
What a dumb comment
He said he's going for C2 nahida?
@@Gota82 well he ain’t making it then
@@jeikiro2458 is he free2play?
@@Gota82 he has multiple accounts, in some yes, in some no
Blud finally got his long asked Diluc buff and this is his take.
well he likes e attack e attack on diluc^^ not plunge the sponge^^
C6 Gaming powercrept Diluc tho lol
@@tidf-wh1zgYeah but at least he got buffed
@@tidf-wh1zgnot only just C6, i saw others can powercrept Xiao with only C0
can we end this in 2024 ? its not a buff - This is the only game community that calls optimize teams buff as well as better equipment. Like your turning into a pretzel to feel good about something thats not even the case.
THANK YOU for confirming what I've been feeling with her. She's cool, flamboyant, does awesome with the new plunge attack for everyone thing. But after trying her out in the trial just didn't do it right for me.
Was deciding on between her or Yae Miko. Left it to the RnG god to decide for me, and glad I lost to Mona C1. So yeah, maybe next time Xianyun, gonna get my Yae Miko next phase.
I'm glad people are adressing this, like with no content to clear after a decent ammount of investment for artifacts, does it really change anything if u use idk who to clear content? when we don't have the content? no lol , people calling characters new content is crazy outside of just collection status, nothing changes. Great video.
they are new contents though, each with a different play style. it's not Xianyun's problem if you don't like easy exploration or plunge atk for every character
I already expect this. The "I can clear anything with National and Hyperbloom, so why would i recommend anything" mentality that leads him to skip Neuvilette. And then this mentality leads him to "have fun" with c2 Raiden Hyperbloom.
Yeah, Xingqiu can be played in Hyperbloom, why would I even pull Furina 😂😂. Bennett hyper carry is better than Diluc, why dont he just bench Diluc😂😂
I don't think I've watched a single video of him where he doesn't have something to whine about. I stopped watching his videos years ago when it felt it he'd never just be happy playing the game. Sucks to see he's still the same
She is fun to play with. Worth pulling for me
if you get lucky with the 3 free pulls you got
Pull with 3 primogmes
Xianyun is fun to jump around the new area too, my diluc has been doing more damage than ever because of dragon strike
@Strashky I laughed so much because I actually got her in exactly 3 pulls. The moment this happened, I was already memeing in my head about the genshin shitty 3 pulls for 3 years.
@@matthewmatthewsons6197But the fun of Diluc is weaving his E. I mean if you're just doing plunge attacks, whats the difference between Diluc, Noelle, Chongyun, etc?
Mtashed *sees CCs clickbait : "CAN WE STOP LYING ABOUT ---"
She’s actually she’s an insane unit. I can’t
Honestly we’re passed the point with so many characters and op teams and theory crafting that i dont even care about meta i just want fun. Her teams seem quite fun and unique, good enough for me at this point 🤷♂️
yea at this point in the game a lot of ppl are just tired of playing same 2 teams every abyss and want variety
You say that but then you need such specific teams for her to actually be her 100% unlike other units. She has potential they did her so dirty let’s be honest
@@fart4453I don't really agree I think they did her fine at worst she's a Jean side grade in furina teams and at most she's a significant upgrade to anyone that can use both furina and plunging like diluc or wriothesly or hu tao now I guess you can say they did her dirty if you don't have furina but you can say the same about any of the sumeru 5 stars if you don't have nahida cause most just turn into mid slop in a bloom related team with the acception of wanderer cause he doesn't use dendro
@@fart4453 Dehya: "First time?"
The issue is some people hyping her up like she's busted tier when there's nahida running alongside her and it's misinformation at best.
1:40
I lost it when he said the pros are "She looks very cool"😂.
He's not wrong tho 🙂 that's the main thing i care about whenever any character comes out
@@osama9501 I mean, I am not saying that she doesn’t look good. But she only has a few pros and one of them is she looks good. I just found it way too funny.
@@Zap_09 yeah , she's a little bit fun to play with at least, also spamming plunge attacks with my diluc and other catalyst users is gonna be fun
I kinda see her more so as a comfort character for exploration her movement to get around is very satisfying.
How good is it if i already have yelan and wanderer?
@@Qilin2309Wanderer is still the best for exploration then Yelan. Sadly Xianyubn is only at same level at Kazuha, Xiao or Venti when it comes to exploration unless you get her c1
If it’s for movement then it’s worthless
Just to run around i don’t think that’s worth it. That should be like a plus
@@sansdro what do you mean worthless? Doesnt she move much faster?
me listening in the bg: "erectile disfunction" WHAT outtanowhere
Even as a side-grade to Jean it's already worth for a world where furina exists
True hoyo's fully committed to releasing characters that'd get dogged on if not for the existence of furina😆 but since there is a furina they're pretty meta and viable. First was baizhu, now xiangyun, I'm expecting they'll release one for each element
@@hiro_444 maybe chiori will be geo healer equivalent, wait i just realise we don't have dedicated geo healer.
Am I the only one who just wants a more flexible Jean who does not turn the camera in the wrong direction?
True
Cloud Retainer: proceeds you yank your camera in 5 different directions because of her over-engineered skill.
@@fredxu99 I think you're just garbage at positioning your own camera
Not sure what youre talking about the camera thing, i also dont see how cloud retainer is more flexible besides buffing plunge (given i barely know her kit so i would actually love if you explained for me)
@@kitsune_gtit's a mobile gaming problem and it's annoying af 😂
Finally someone who is not sugarcoating, really sick of content creator just calling her insane, broken, it sucks for people like me who is on the fence about whether it is worth it to pull for her or not
Do you like her character design? Pull her. Do you want to future proof and can afford the primos? Pull her. Are you on the fence over her vs Nahida? Well, one of them is an Archon 😂
Mtashed doesn't know how to play the game bro. He said Furina is mid. He just hates Genshin and does a half-assed job at evaluating characters because he doesn't give a shit about Genshin. All in all, if you trust Mtashed takes, you're hyper casual... but the if you're hyper casual, why watch Mtashed? Cuz all he does is shit on hyper casuals who play Genshin lol.
If you are new to the game just get nahida. Xianyun is basically a premium unit for characters like hutao, xiao, klee, etc... A big but non needed dps increase (see it as getting a shenhe for your dps cryo unit).
She might see even more light in the future but rn If you don't like plunging she's def not worth it.
But if you fit in:
Really Like hutao(better than c1 btw)/klee/xiao/diluc/...
No skill issue
Has no ploblem with plunges
Wants a good (and unnecessary) dps increase to a specifc character
She's a good option
Found the mihoyo employee.@@Goujiki
7:37 tashman losing it 😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bro i wanna make an edit out of that 😆🤣
7:02 😂😂😂
She's god tier, no one is lying. If you don't want a character, stfu and let people enjoy things.
One of my major gripes is the stinginess and forced scarcity tactics. The game is pumping out all these characters and to level them up to high levels you need a lot of scarce resin AND time-gated materials. Some materials can only be collected once a week. It would be fun to try some characters out but you have to go through this whole process...and that doesn't even account for the artifacts.
Im just mad that the moment i opened hoyolab and saw like 20 posts of people getting xianyun and some even c6ing her makes me have no hope for this "boycot"
fr, i was in some discord server announcing CR C6 pulls livestream. left that garbage immediatly
Let's be honest the real boycotting will start when wutering waves comes out
@@kingmamba4267 We need to be striking now. Because god forbid WW doesnt get traction.
Addicted mf 🤦🏻 we can already see hoyo don't giving a single dipshit though. They know at the end of the day they get their huge paycheck.
Not all of us are mindless streamer simps like you. If I like a game I spend money on it no matter what whiny internet people say.
Cloud Midlaner is the new meta
She go mid lane?
Damn just when Hwei was getting good after the buffs..
respect the grandma bird!!!". 😂😂😂
Genshin is moba???
bro her character trail is fucking mid!!!
This video gives me the same vibes as when I heard his initial opinion on Yaoyao. Same comparisons too, just more of the "Just Use National" crap that - after 3 years of service - just isn't a mandate anymore. I can 36-star abyss with Tighnari 2x Dendro and Neuvilette Hypercarry, the National comparison is just hot dook-dook garbo nowadays.
Take it with a grain of salt, if you're unsure of a unit's value to your account the only way to tell is to do your own ressearch and make your own assumptions.
Characters doesn't rely burst better damage like Catalyst characters males on field dps
@@arocomisgamusclademork1603maybe for overworld but depending on the character it doesn’t really matter because well invested supporters can kill most enemies with their skills alone
@@treysmith9371 support like Faruzan or Cheruveze?
@@treysmith9371 I just get so damn tired of the "But Xiangling/Xingqiu" crap because that's ALWAYS the go to, to say a character is crap. It's been his modus operandi for a literal year (again, he pulled the same crap with Yaoyao on her debut), and it's just tiring.
Honestly this could be a cool series going forward as a kind of "before you buy" to all the new charecters in genshin because with it being in all the content creators best interest to hype up interest it would be cool to have a high quality opposing end where you try and get people to save there primos
You make some good points, but I think what's missing from this take is what she can do while also healing, freeing up party slots and allowing players to make some teams feel a lot more comfortable. The meme comps are fun to watch but are not better than how most of the characters are intended to play.
I love Mtashed and his guides BUT, he always gives advice for new players while other creators advice for veteran players aswell (like myself) I dont need any other characters because I have most of the other meta characters, I just need fun characters and ones that enables units that are old and not very much used. And of course xiangling, benny, xq will clear anything in the game, you don't need anyone else, you will never pull if you have this mindset. I see his point if you are a new player there are way better units than her, but his arguments are ALWAYS for new players only. With all that said, love your videos tashman
And he's right to do that to be honest, who do you think is most misled by a title that says "WOW XIANYUN IS INSANE PULL NOW", someone who knows how the game works and what each unit does and has the capacity to assess if he wants said character OR a new player with all the shop primos uncleared that just wants to make his account stronger ASAP ? I honestly think the latter, and a lot of content creators dont seem to take that into account, plus indeed xianyun would be a horrible pick for a new account, especially with nahida being present. Not trying to be disingenuous just giving you the other perspective !
Yes, this I'm a vet and have been 36 starring the abyss since before Inazuma. People turd Ayato because he's a jack of all. New players want consolidation
@amnitole2796 I see your point, and I agree honestly, a lot of creators will say "This unit is insane pull NOW" just for the views and thats misleading for a lot of people. I just think Mtashed should say more clearly that, Xianyum for example, is a unit for long time players or if you just dont care abt meta at all. Sometimes he push too far into the joke of thrash talking a unit (which I enjoy the joke) but for an easy game like this, I dont think it should matter this much
no, other youtubers advice ALWAYS to get every fkng character hoyolame comes up.
Revise the "WOW BAIZHU IS INCREDIBLE!!!!! PULL NOW!!!"
And if they are targeting veterans they should say so.
But nop, because they are being payed by Hoyolame. They are the bias.
he said it. @@VJusto
mtashed takes new players more into consideration than veterans, if youre new, she wont do you much, if youre a veteran, she gives you a new way to play. Im a veteran and im getting her because playing the same teams over and over gets stale
Exactly. I would advice to pull for Kazuha in 4.6/7/8 when he comes out.
thank you Mtashed for giving a different side of perspective from others and being the guy with the advice to improve your account efficiently but I will still pull for Xianyun because of how cool and fun she looks.
So, I’ve been thinking of pulling her, but I’ve been waiting to see the initial response to her. My account only has two 5*s currently. Xiao and Kazuha. When I heard she would be Xiao’s support, I was very excited, because I still use him as my main dps. But running him with a battery and a healer and all this stuff is annoying sometimes. So I haven’t been sure. Ive also been strongly considering pulling for nahida, cuz I’ve heard of how good she is, and I only have one other dendro unit rn, but I don’t know if I have good units to run with her.
if u have xiao then that’s reason enough lol
I absolutely hate that you don’t cover Genshin full time. Your opinion is always unfiltered. AND IM GRATEFUL FOR THAT.
“NOT THIS BOWL CUTTED IDIOT!” 😂 I can’t.
I'm totally here for the unhinged 'call out the theorycrafters' era. As someone who also enjoys videos from theorycrafters like Zajef, it's just nice and fun to get your counter perspective as well. Seems really important to remember that there's very little powercreep in the game, so even if Xianyun is good there's so many other options that are also good or better.
i like how he miss pronounce cloud blamers name everytime
He is so angry at her existence lmao
Next video: I pulled Cloud Disclaimer and she changed everything
Kapp
I swear Lmaaao
Don't forget the third video: "Cloud Disclaimer sucks"
Latest video : Cloud Retainer better than previous playstyle meta other size challenges instead one specifically challenge
If u look at his primos, u knw damn well he aint pulling shit 😂😂😂
I think Showcases should try and use the same level artifacts across all content creator accounts, because a lot of FtP clears or showcases just use crazy artifacts which make them look stronger than what most people would get.
shes a more useful jean at the least and does her own thing and is the best exploration character at the most. i think shes awesome
I think Xianyun's pretty okay not amazing not bad but more of a fun/luxury unit or sidegrade but knowing how the playerbase generally is, fun mechanic + big screenshot damage numbers is gonna get a lot o people. I've pulled back from discussions too mostly because of how glorified "the calcs" and numbers can get while most of the other less easily measurable factors where usually dropped from discussions.
Understand the opinion. As a kazuha/sucrose haver, she does not give more dmg. (I mostly only watch u).
To me, unlocking a new playstale, gives character a lot more points IMHO
I agree, having a new playstyle/ having older units become more usable is more fun and she is more then abyss viable with the buffs she gives. My abyss teams have been the same for a long time now, so it is nice to have a change and go back to my older units. She is not for everyone but she is far from trash.
No hate from me my guy , love your vids but I think you need to take off the blinkers and stop focusing on pure power and comparison to other units . Of course there will be stronger and better units , always . The point is she opens up a different/fun/new play-style .
I honestly do not think people are hyping her up too much . I think people are relatively happy with her kit and performance . Diluc can now plunge whenever , is that game-breaking ? no, but its something brand new . Xuinqui + Diluc have been slamma jammin for years at this point , its old and tired . Her design is stunning , she has a cool triple jump skill , if you have the primos and want her then go for it . Genshin is a brain-dead game , lets Unga Bunga a bit :3
becuz other content liar creators saying its op 😂 but in reality 😂 shenhe is more OP 😂 and ganyu 😂
imagine your two disciples 😂 are better than you
Shenhe more op? Look I love her, but are we talking about the same Shenhe that literally works with two characters, at best?
Lord Jesus this community is dumb sometimes lmao
cheers mate🤝
@@yt_Giuseppe what do you expect from some obsessed hardcore weebs.
@@yt_Giuseppebruh ikr mans compared a cryo enhancing queen to a generalistic plunge attack buff. Look im not counting numbers but last time i checked there are only a set amount of viable cryo dps units, when the entire cast has a plunge attack. Not saying all plunge attacks are equal far from it but the scope is way bigger than "cryo numbers only"
I honestly just used my guarantee to get Nahida's second constellation. Adds more value to my Dendro teams and account overall. Was at 53 pity and had to go all the way up to 80 pity(again), but I got her. Now I'm saving up for Chlorinde or a rerun that I want.
I'm glad I pulled for her. She's saved me countless times trying to get through world level 3 through the main quests. I love her main flying ability so she gets away from some of the big attacks briefly to plunge down at the enemy, and it can be used for gaining some height for climbing etc. She's a good character, really.
totally agreed, don't swipe your card boys, it is not worth it
Game is trash we are only here for boobs! SWIPE AWAY!
Facts. If u got the primos for her and reallly want her, dew it. But if youre swiping for this character at the current state of the game, Hoyo has got u by the balls 😂😂😂
@@Buckheimer What's wrong with current state of the game? Genshin isn't perfect, and there are many things I wish they added, but streamers throwing a tantrum over free rolls and streamer simps mindlessly mimicking all that outrage is hilarious to me 🤣
@@e.t.291 seriously? After they proved to u so many times tht they CLEARLY have no care for the game, and is putting the least amount of efforts into improving the game, taking years to put in the simplest QoL changes, and evn making a WHOLE NEW GAME where theyve implement all the things tht their genshin player base wanted, u seriously think u shud still be gambling ur money away into this game tht theyre very clearly using to just milk their player base? Its more than just about the freemos my man.
@@Buckheimer idk what you're talking about, I'm exploring Chenyu Vale rn and having a great time 🥰 Maybe Genshin just isn't your type of game. Try HSR or FGO instead?
I just need one copy of faruzan for C6 and then my wanderer will be fully completed 😢. But instead of that I lost 50/50 and got a Mona 😅.
Same lol, at least I have guaranteed for Arlecchino lol
Anyway I'm going for c2 wish me luck guys
didn't expect the "erectile disfunction" comment from the man lmao
This will age like milk man
I’m already knowing
Nah
@Margxela And here you are each video 👍👍
@@theblackknight5732haha true
he had a video saying Furina was bad 😅
Bro just one thing who said about her being better?
Genshin community nowadays only wants new mechanics not a replacement of buffer or supports cause they always come every year so people wants something that can keep them interested in the game
My opinion only
That’s just it he was critiquing the content creators who were portraying her as being that way. He said if you want a different play style then your all good
@@zippy3718 exactly people should not say that this will be monster support and other bullshit every character us unique in their own way
Stop the god damn comparing game
I love this drama, bring the community together
What drama?
@@fragils2727is xianyun was a good pick or not
Heres my answer. If you doesnt mind use your pull or "build pity" go for it no one stops you. If you are xiao main PULL cuz xiao constelation suck( aproved by normal tall hamdsome streamer and guide maker Zyox)
If none of these reason exist then feel free to skip chiori arlechino clorinde still not out
Now we know why we got those rewards, to save and become free to play, thanks father Mtash ❤❤❤❤
Xianyun as my first 5star... I'd say shes good:3
2-3 weeks later I got Diluc turned to Xiaoluc
I think people just need to learn that we have so many characters in game so we could just chose those who we really like. None of them really a “must have” and you definitely don’t need all of them.
Cloud Misinformation
Earliest I’ve been to a tashedman video 😆
Damn it's the hu tao sub dps guy
Claims to want characters that open up new team comps. Praised Chevreuse for doing it. But when Cloud Retainer does it, it doesn't count. Lol.
one thing mtashed fails to realise about cloud retainer is that she's pretty much exactly like shenhe but for plunging in general instead of just cryo and ca's. she basically replaces shenhe's elemental buff with a heal over time that synergises with both the character she was made to support, xiao, and one of, if not, the best in slot support for the team, furina. filling the slots of a pseudo battery, healer and damage buffer in 1 slot is extremely valuable when going for this playstyle, but it's completely understandable if constantly plunging isn't your playstyle. take bennett in international for example. he helps xiangling by generating pyro particles, increases the team's damage with his ult + noblesse and heals the active character. she also enables the plunge playstyle for other teams while supporting it if anyone is interested in experimenting, so there's that too.
The cope is hard in this one.
Bro if you like her its ok,but she is lower Mid support.
Why would you put her in any other team except for Xiao ,maybe only if you dont have Jean for Furina teams.
That is the only scenario where she is viable .
She is bad if she at least kept her grouping abilty and they made it stronger than she would be slightly better than Jean.
Another person commented this as a paraphrase or summary of the video:
"No new character is worth pulling for because these old characters clear the game", saved you 20 minutes.
And I think it was a poorly made summary of a person who just skimmed through the video instead of watching it whole. I'm not really a fan of Mtashed but I will admit he is funny.
Anyway, here is my reply to the guy who made the poorly made summary, I think this is like a more accurate summary of what he talks about in the video.
Incorrect, because he talked about Neuvillete which he said was "Busted, deserving of the hype and praise because of his powercreep, and quality of life (just standing there and pressing charge attacks instead of doing dash cancels for after plunge). There were many variables mentioned not just "I can clear just as fast as Xiangling, Xingqiu, Bennett, therefore she does not give me any value" and according to his word usage "I cannot in my right mind recommend this to new players" (which most likely do not have a lot of the old characters) his target audience for this advice/ video were the newer players who doesn't not spend a lot in the game.
I think i should pull Nahida cause if i lose 5050 and get jean in future, i wont regret not having cloud retainer.
you sound like a new player. wait for kazuha. this character has nothing on him.
@@EllaNonimato No, he is right, Nahida > Kazuha priority wise for a new player, by far.
Erectyle disfunction , while Sucrose was holding a bone R LOL
Cloud Retainer is not for new players. She is a character for ppl who are bored and want to change up their teams
what makes her not for new players though? She's pretty good, and even with barely any investment I got her to hit like 5-7k which is more than enough for a new player with low level enemies. There's no downsides to this character other than an energy problem. She's not bad for new players, hell i'd say she's perfect for new players.
Love how honest you are tash. I felt the same way. Also love that you say the wrong name on purpose almost every time 😂
Thanks Tashman. I'm sticking to skipping 4.4 banners, and saving for Neuvi and Furi rerun. Also wanted Nahida C2 but may not have enough primos, maybe future reruns.
Wanted her for the open world, but found out she cant use E while in the air to extend the range(((
She is still crazy open world. I got all the tp of the new area with her and even if her e doesn't work in the air (and it should), taking an anemo slot that heals, makes gliding faster and has a good mobility ability makes her awesome open world.
@@cloudwalker9572 definitely agree. She is pretty cool for open world the way she is now, but the fact that you can't use it mid air is so disappointing 😭. I got Kazuha and it's pretty cool using e in the air
Yeah that's the bigger bait here😭😭 I wish she could activate her skill mid air, it would've been SOOO much more useful if that was possible
Every character can't use E when they are Air-Borne anyway.
Genshin's game mechanics are just not like that. yet.
edit: ok not including kazuha but everyone other than him can't. at least she can jump three times 😁
@@noesome Xiao?
Cloud Midtainer
proud no brainer
You’re 100% right king
You know hes gonna walk back this right
I think the only person lying here is a certain individual who said "i'm quitting genshin" multiple times but not actually quitting
I get the concern about powercreep, but the more mid units are added to this game, the harder it is for new players to get the most meta units. It can be pretty discouraging to not have Xingqiu and Bennett or not have Nahida, Yelan, Kazuha, etc. Or have Furina but no decent teamwide healer to pair with her.
As a new player, you have to either settle for pulling and building off meta units or be patient enough to save for several months. You don't need meta to clear Spiral Abyss sure, but it still feels bad when you're stuck with non optimal units, especially if you don't particularly like them.
HSR has skirted this problem by not being afraid of some modest powercreep while still making sure the limited DPSs are fairly close to each other in strength. Dr. Ratio might be worse than Jingliu overall but the difference is very minor compared to difference between Xianyun and Kazuha, Nahida, etc.
HSR have really bad powercreeping in that game. That's why their give Dr. Ratio since powercreeping exist in HSR.
Zajef ...He has been paid for marketing the stuff :D
Bruh, how? Zajef constantly talks about leaks and constantly says to people to not spend in this "shit game" LMAO
What are you talking about? Zajef criticizes Genshin all the time.
bro is on some mad copium he talks abt leaks often and doesnt even wish on camera to not promote gambling says dont spend money on thsi shit game he also called her pretty good
@@shevek5185 If smtg is "shiet" i won't make content about it. Easy...So he basically advertising a "shiet game" in full time job? Poor guy.
Zajef’s only problem is that he would suck xinqiu’s penis if it was possible but otherwise he does criticize genshin