I test rode the Forza 350 for approximately 30 miles today. My impressions - having got straight off my Burgman 400 - are these: 1. The Forza feels a little cramped and I was unable to stretch out my legs as far as I can on the Burgman. It's something I would get used to quite quickly though. 2. The engine is very smooth and responsive and makes the Burgman 400 seems quite rough by comparison. 3. I found the ride very hard and jarring. The rear shocks don't seem to be absorbing even minor bumps in the road. 4. Economy, as expected (due to a smaller engine and lighter weight) was better than the Burgman - I averaged 82mpg (imperial) over the 30 miles of mixed riding. 5. I love the clarity of the instruments. Better and more comprehensive than the Burgman. 6. The screen, even on its highest setting, produces a lot of wind noise around the helmet. I a only 175cm (5'9") but, for touring, I would need to fit a taller screen. (I have a Givi Airflow on my Burgman). 7. It's taller than the Burgman and I was unable to put both feet flat on the ground. Again, something I'd get used to. I think, for the price - unless you are adding Honda accessories - it is good value.
I had in my garage an xmax300 2019 model but i sold it after 2 years and 35.000km for the updated model forza 350. I bought the forza 350 on September 2021 without test driving it. Let me share with you my impressions after 2 weeks of driving it and how it is compared to the xmax300. • The seat material is not as good as the xmax300 and the whole construction closing and opening feels cheap. • It has only one storage space on the left side and it is very deep and not easy to reach your stuff. Again the construction feels very cheap compare to the xmax300 which has 2 storage spaces. • The biggest problem was some kind of vibrations that i was feeling at the seat, at the mirrors and at the steering when the scooter wasnt moving. I didnt faced anything like this with the xmax300 or any other scooter i have had. • Fuel consumption about the same as the xmax for sure not better. • Brakes better than the xmax300 • Rear Suspension is hard and not so soft as the xmax300. • Steering is about the same as the xmax 300 small differences. • The forza 350 engine feels quiter and stronger than the xmax300. • The instruments and the mirrors are more premium than the xmax300. Overall it didnt worth the upgrade and the whole experience of the forza350 left me unsatisfied. The biggest problem for me is the vibrations of the scooter because it makes it feel cheap. The xmax300 for me is the better option.
I wish Honda had a model between the Forza 350 and 750. In my opinion, there is too big a gap between the two models ... Anyway, this new 350 is now more in tune with what the competition offers. BenalRida, thank you very much once again for your work analyzing motorcycles !!! You have become one of my favorite reviewers ... and the parking lot in front of "VENTA EL TUNEL" is the official stage, hahahaha Congratulations, I will stay connected to the channel for future videos
Hello Miguel, thanks for your comment and thanks so much for your kind words! Unfortunately, they just mowed the grass at the parking lot and now you can see all the trash people have thrown there. Really disgusting. For bigger bikes I will choose a different route now. Have you noticed?!?
@@BenalRida Damn it!!! People's education is getting worse and worse ... better to choose another location, of course. As long as the content of your channel does not change, any place modification will be ok
@@miguelmora1794 On bigger bikes I will not do the acceleration test anymore. Because of that I was also able to move to another location, a bit farther away, but still the road is nice and has longer bends.
A great review, thanks. I think one of the reasons for buying this (for me, at least) is the 8000 mile service intervals. I currently own a 2020 Suzuki Burgman AN400 which needs servicing every 3500 miles, which is inconvenient and expensive because I cover high mileages. I also recently rode a Kymco AK550. Great performance and features but 3000 mile service intervals and £10k purchase price! Oh, and small underseat storage capacity, similar in size to the Forza 750's I recently sat on (but have not ridden) a Forza 350 and it felt a bit toy-like compared to the Burgman but will take a test ride soon. I think the price is very competitive. I quite like the Forza 750 but it is chain-driven which I will never go back to and the storage capacity is not big enough. Mind you, adding a Honda top-box and heated grips to the Forza is another £1000+ which is insanely expensive, in my opinion.
This is the biggest scooter one can drive in city and the smallest one can drive on the highway. Maybe the perfect balance, if such thing is possible at all.
Hi sir, here in the Philippines honda did not release the Forza series. We envy those country with Forza scoot :) I really love that Forza 350. Thank you for mentioning the Philippines, nice review more power to you're channel and ride safe always.
I've been looking at the forza for a while now, lovely looking scooter with lots of storage. A 350 is plenty of power for every day use I think my mind is made up Thanks for sharing your thoughts 👍
Depends on your use around town the 300 is great and on other roads but longer distance and faster roads esp overtaking at higher speeds the 350 will punch you past more .... more power the better still think a 400 or 450 in this same design would of been better so the gap between the 300 and 750 was smaller
@@wurzel1873 I always had a 'proper' bikes but decided to try a scooter. I have an old honda foresight and the comfort of an automatic gearbox, no chain cleaning and easy, cheap maintenance is amazing. I don't have hand/head waves anymore from 'real' bikers but that is the only drawback
It does look like the best option for a sub 500cc scooter. Great looks, decent power, reasonable price. I love the look of the 750 but cannot justify the extra £4900 over the 350 which can be picked up generally for around £5100 - £5400 here.
@@BenalRida I think maybe £7500 - £8000 would have been a more realistic price for the 750. But I guess it's priced that high because of the price of the T-max 530 .
a i've had a serious problem, choosing between this or Xmax 300. Honda win because of several little advantages, which determine the overall comfort of use. It has a little better engine, more energetic and developmental. Better brakes, better wind protection with this adjustable windshield/more GT abilities if You plan to use it out of the city. Little better trunk with a nice pocket, also better finished. A lot better, deep front pocket. Working front lights (!), better mirrors. Some better ergonomics solutions - menu function buttons on left side, not on throttle side (!). Also You can switch off TC by dedicated one switch, not need to search this in menu. It's probably also little better balanced - battery is between the seat and the tank. Finally Forza have a better stock tires. I have to say Xmax also has some serious advantages. Better front forks, little lower fuel consumption and in my opinion some better finishing materials. And You can buy it used if not afraid of that.
I tested this 350 model whilst mine was getting serviced (forza 300) and my impression was it is much quicker at spinning up than the 300 which i find lacking until it gathers speed at the upper end.. I have traded mine in for this one after 12 months use... much quicker on overtakes esp in the mid range 50mph plus. I still have to think ahead but not so much so compared to the 300 the seat feels narrower and feel my knees futher down rather than towards my chest but it is marginal but more comfort is better even if it is small touches... my only gripe is the change of design on the rear pillion handles i will have to buy another top box rack.... more expense rather than a transfer.. Maybe a bigger engine more fuel use ?
I also tested the 300 a while back and I immediately felt that the power was not enough for me or rather the jump from the 125 wasn't so big, but the 350 feels different now and now more on par with the Yamaha XMAX series.
Yes, I'm thinking of trading up to the 350 from the 300. I love my 300 (I also have a 750 motorbike) as it's my winter workhorse as I ride all year round. I've also been touring on it and it's been superb. So that little extra power and acceleration sounds like a winner. thanks for your comments and ride safe.
@@pommiegranite464 yeah I love my 300 too but it's not a race horse.overtakes need 2nd and 3rd looks riding the 350 it has a spring on its step... not a lot more but much better at overtakes and getting up to speed quicker... test one back to back with the 300 and see what you think
A friend bought the 350 a few days ago and took the grab handles off his old 300 so that he didn’t have to go to any further expense buying a new carrier for his top box. It only took a few minutes to do the transfer. The newer grab handles were made of plastic. The fuel consumption on the 350 was also found to be better than the 300.
Nice scooter and lots of helpful features. The downside is the travel and performance of the stock suspension, is very much lacking at the price point. I had a test ride. A suspension upgrade is a must... That said the road surfaces in Thailand are not as good as Europe on a Urban basis.. Liked and subbed..
Hello, I am not sure where you are in the world. Apparently they use different parts for different parts of the world. For example the seat is different in Thailand and I think the shocks are different as well. I watched the video from Red Cowboy Media and I did not notice the problems he was describing in his video. Thanks very much for your comment.
i got one of this... fantastic scooter... but the wind shield should go 1 more cm up.... to reduce more noice... my toughts.. they put the wind shield on this model 3.5 cm more up on this modell on Honda Forxa 300 cc it wass 3,5 cm less ... topbox u can get two types, 35 and 45 liter... i have 45 and have good place to put things in it.... :D also good place for helmets under the seat but also other thinghs...
Forza 350 might doesnt have start and stop because has bigger engine which would be harder for the system to operate right on a sudden push of throttle... maybe it is easier for smaller engines to have this attribute. Does any other 300cc ++ scooter has start and stop? i dont think so...
@@BenalRida always tought traction control was for using when it was raining and slippery... never tought to use that control all the time... that i will do now after reading this ;)
@@BenalRida feels wide when u are sitting on that 350`` remember when i was driving my 50 CC scooter i was line splitting easyli`` havent done it so much with my 350`` :D , but i have done it ... no problem...
Currently the Honda Stop Start technology is only designed for up to 125cc. They use the AC electronic stator technology to quickly start the engine, they don't have a traditional starter motor. I'm sure if it was possible on higher cc engines then Honda would implement it.
Hello!! I just find your video, and i really like it. I hope for the future can try this moto. For another part i have checked that you are on Málaga. If i can recomend you something, next to "el palo" ( a neighborhood) you can find nice place to eat nice fish and soo nice spot to maker your videos. This area, and also cala del moral y Rincon de la victoria could have nice light to record your videos. Thank you for this video.😉😉
Thanks for the review. I see you like it more than the Forza 300 which you tested earlier. I will be buying a new Forza 350 here in the UK in the next few weeks. Unfortunately, the choice of colour we have isn’t very good... only light grey, dark grey or matt blue. I wish we also had both red and white to choose from. I have an SH300 in beautiful metallic red.
Hello, unfortunately, the Honda Forza 350 is not available here in red, only the 125cc. If I were to buy it now, I would choose the blue one, not my favorite color, but better than grey and black. :)
@@user-ck6kq8zl2i Hi, yes, last year I got it. Now I have done about 7500 miles and enjoy riding it. Great engine and very comfortable... But now that Honda have introduced the ADV350 I think I will swap my Forza for one if Honda change the colours of the ADV for next year. It’s almost the same as the Forza, but has different styling which I like.
@@AkaWilf Yes I think the ADV looks better but it's also a lot wider at the bars than the forza..which is relevant to me for traffic and squeezing it through the back gate.
Good video buddy, thanks. Can I just ask, how do you record your voice over the noise of the wind? With my GoPro, it just records wind noise and nothing else - I cannot hear my voice so I’m guessing you have an external mic of some sort?
Hello, to record the sound in a helmet is always a problem and sometimes involves a lot of trail and error. Currently I am using a cut-off mic from an Iphone headset to record the audio. I have connected it to the hideous GoPro audio adapter and this to the GoPro. Hope that helps?!?
How would you say it compares with the sh 300 or 350 it does have more weather protection and that is important more for NE U.K. Do you think the plastic wind screen is different from that of the sh mods Because they seem to be clearer to look through that the Sh models. Also the price is not a to great a difference!! Thanks for your evaluation it was very good.
Hello, I am not sure about the actual differences, however, I am not a big fan of the SH 350, since it has a very heavy front and the Forza 350 is more streamlined and practical I think, also better for highway riding.
True - as you said, you have to consider your weight, but what size is your inside leg. Saw a 5ft 6" guy with a 30-inch inside leg and he was tippy toes just like you, so guessing you have a shorter inside leg given that you are 2 inches taller than him. Would guess you are 28-inch inside leg?? Is that about right? Thanks for the good video. Love from Scotland, X
Thank you for your recommendation on the 350 scooter. Did you feel there was a problem with the rear shocks of the scooter as a red cowboy complained And does the windshield make noise while driving and not hard enough? Thanks for the video.
Impressive bike! I'm a happy owner of the ADV150 but am starting to think I'd like something with a little more top-end power, for overtaking and more comfy freeway cruising. Maybe the 350 could be the bike for me?
Regarding the comments from the guy in Thailand/Philippines I imagine one possible reason he found the bike uncomfortable, specifically the seat, may be because many Thai and Filipino people tend to be shorter/smaller so may have lead to his negative feedback on seating. Just a guess. The Honda seems like a real quality bike. For me tho the looks are a bit generic- I mean it looks a lot like many other bikes out there. Just my 2 pesetas, er, I mean 2 cents :-)
Hello WestHam, thanks for your comment, but no, I don't think it was because of that. I am fairly sure this guy is American (Red Cowboy Media) and he showed the seat and it looks different to what I saw on this scooter. So my conclusion is they use different parts for different regions in the world. But thanks for watching :)
@@BenalRida I will be moving to Thailand for good once the borders open. I have spent a total of about 3 years there and have always rented a PCX 150, the biggest seller in the country (as far as I remember from March 2020). It was adequate for what I needed then. I came home and for the past year and a half have been riding my Kawasaki Vulcan 1600, so I will need a bigger bike when I return. I think the Forza 350 will fit the bill nicely, but it seems I may need a suspension upgrade because it will be me at about 195 lb. and my wife at about 100 lb. nearly all of the time. I had rented and tested the 300 but was a little underwhelmed by the lack of low end torque, especially considering it was twice the displacement as the PCX. Thanks, Honda, for the extra 50cc and thanks, BenalRida for the wonderful review.
Love your reviews, they have got better and better over time! love the 0/100kph I have a Yamaha xMax 300 and the Forza 350 is 2 seconds quicker than the Xmax 300 to 100kph! might be worth a look? but tbh i do fancy the Honda XADV its a lot of Money but maybe! Have you reviewed it yet?? If not can you?
Hello Michael! Glad you like them! Until now, I was not really able to make test rides on bigger bikes, but since I have just received my A license, I will do a review of the Honda Forza 750 and the X-ADV. That would be no problem :)
If I were in a position to decide, I would choose the Honda Forza 350, although I have now bought the XMAX 300 but that was basically because of the Honda dealer.
@@BenalRida But excuse me, 7.04 seconds from 0-100 km / h and with the windshield fully raised to the maximum? It is definitely a very elaborate and modified Honda Forza 350. Quite right?
@@tadkai Hello, for me a scooter must be practical meaning it needs to have loads of storage space under the seat and that's what the Honda Forza 350 has got. Also, I noticed a lot of wind on my lower legs when riding on it at higher speeds. Never experienced that on other scooters. I personally like the Honda better.
I have the 300 Forza it's a great scooter the only downside is the front suspension. The 350 has the same suspension, disappointing. The screen is a little higher.
@@guysmith3146 yes but the rear suspension of the xmax is worse than the Honda. Difficult to decide, but over all Honda 350 has a better engine even if xmax is more beautiful.
Hello, oh difficult decision. If you want to go traditional, I would take the Honda Forza 350, but if money is a problem, and you want the most for it, I guess I would try the Zontes.
sir BenalRida, in your own honest review, between FORZA 350 and the XMAX 300, which of the two has the more powerful engine and more torque / easy accelaration power ? tnx ser im from the Philippines and owning XMAX 300 , its average top speed only i can reach is 144 kph ..
But excuse me, 7.04 seconds from 0-100 km / h and with the windshield fully raised to the maximum? It is definitely a very elaborate and modified Honda Forza 350. Quite right?
Hello, I am sorry, I am always making two videos, one for English, one for German. I guess I forgot for English. I think you can see it in the German video: th-cam.com/video/_IWGgRlrlUQ/w-d-xo.html
Hello, depends on what you want and how much money you have available. I think the BMW is quite a bit more expensive. For me the BMW does not have enough storage space under the seat, so I would choose the Honda.
@@snozzybosch7503 I did a quick search and found in Spain the Honda starts at 5950 euros. The BMW (GT version) starts at 7990. The is also a lower spec model, the C 400X, for 6990 euros. Not sure but might be able to negotiate lower prices on the BMW since it's been out a while.
Hi i own c400 gt. I just test rode forza 350. I live in Uk . I got my c400gt for £5900, an ex demo with over 2 years of manufacturer’s warranty( more than a new Honda ). A new forza 350 is around £5500 and feels very basic comparing to c400 gt . Mine has alarm, TFT with turn by turn gps , heated seat heated grips. Lumbar support on c400gt is excellent, seat is more comfortable.Forza quality is good but c400gt fit and finish is on another level in my opinion. Both scoters handle very well, Honda engine is smoother, similar performance. Big difference is the front brake: c400 gt has a double disc . You may not notice it at lower speeds but if you hit the front brake at higher speed you notice a big difference. C400gt front break is much better, safer. Honda’s storage is very impressive. Because of little price difference( in my instance) i would choose c400gt every time . But if I was to pay over £8000 for well equipped new Bmw I would probably choose forza 350 . Forza 350 is an excellent scooter, well priced, the engine is so smooth comparing to Bmw . I really enjoyed test riding forza 350
@@BenalRida haha Noo, You’re not stupid to operate the camera, You are one of a kind ⭐️, I just found it funny 😄, That makes you sincere and fun at the same time. Thank you for your effort☺️👏 One Love ☝️
Hello, you cannot really compare both of them. It depends on what you want with it. If you want comfort and storage space without the need to buy side cases, I guess I would recommend the Honda Forza 350.
As an xmax owner, I think the fairing mounted mirrors and the powered adjustable screen are better on the Honda. Though overall I would still go for the xmax if I was buying today.
@@Anton-. The xmax has better front forks. The powered adjustable screen is better on the Honda as is the indicators mounted in the mirrors. For me though the xmax is just a better all round package.
I test rode the Forza 350 for approximately 30 miles today. My impressions - having got straight off my Burgman 400 - are these:
1. The Forza feels a little cramped and I was unable to stretch out my legs as far as I can on the Burgman. It's something I would get used to quite quickly though.
2. The engine is very smooth and responsive and makes the Burgman 400 seems quite rough by comparison.
3. I found the ride very hard and jarring. The rear shocks don't seem to be absorbing even minor bumps in the road.
4. Economy, as expected (due to a smaller engine and lighter weight) was better than the Burgman - I averaged 82mpg (imperial) over the 30 miles of mixed riding.
5. I love the clarity of the instruments. Better and more comprehensive than the Burgman.
6. The screen, even on its highest setting, produces a lot of wind noise around the helmet. I a only 175cm (5'9") but, for touring, I would need to fit a taller screen. (I have a Givi Airflow on my Burgman).
7. It's taller than the Burgman and I was unable to put both feet flat on the ground. Again, something I'd get used to.
I think, for the price - unless you are adding Honda accessories - it is good value.
Thanks for your thoughts on this!
Which one do you prefer? Thanks
I had in my garage an xmax300 2019 model but i sold it after 2 years and 35.000km for the updated model forza 350.
I bought the forza 350 on September 2021 without test driving it.
Let me share with you my impressions after 2 weeks of driving it and how it is compared to the xmax300.
• The seat material is not as good as the xmax300 and the whole construction closing and opening feels cheap.
• It has only one storage space on the left side and it is very deep and not easy to reach your stuff. Again the construction feels very cheap compare to the xmax300 which has 2 storage spaces.
• The biggest problem was some kind of vibrations that i was feeling at the seat, at the mirrors and at the steering when the scooter wasnt moving. I didnt faced anything like this with the xmax300 or any other scooter i have had.
• Fuel consumption about the same as the xmax for sure not better.
• Brakes better than the xmax300
• Rear Suspension is hard and not so soft as the xmax300.
• Steering is about the same as the xmax 300 small differences.
• The forza 350 engine feels quiter and stronger than the xmax300.
• The instruments and the mirrors are more premium than the xmax300.
Overall it didnt worth the upgrade and the whole experience of the forza350 left me unsatisfied.
The biggest problem for me is the vibrations of the scooter because it makes it feel cheap.
The xmax300 for me is the better option.
Thanks very much for your comment and for sharing this.
I wish Honda had a model between the Forza 350 and 750. In my opinion, there is too big a gap between the two models ... Anyway, this new 350 is now more in tune with what the competition offers.
BenalRida, thank you very much once again for your work analyzing motorcycles !!! You have become one of my favorite reviewers ... and the parking lot in front of "VENTA EL TUNEL" is the official stage, hahahaha
Congratulations, I will stay connected to the channel for future videos
Hello Miguel, thanks for your comment and thanks so much for your kind words! Unfortunately, they just mowed the grass at the parking lot and now you can see all the trash people have thrown there. Really disgusting. For bigger bikes I will choose a different route now. Have you noticed?!?
@@BenalRida Damn it!!! People's education is getting worse and worse ... better to choose another location, of course. As long as the content of your channel does not change, any place modification will be ok
@@miguelmora1794 On bigger bikes I will not do the acceleration test anymore. Because of that I was also able to move to another location, a bit farther away, but still the road is nice and has longer bends.
Hi Miguel. I initially thought the same thing, but after some thought a 400-500cc Forza would probably be too similar in performance to the 750.
A great review, thanks.
I think one of the reasons for buying this (for me, at least) is the 8000 mile service intervals. I currently own a 2020 Suzuki Burgman AN400 which needs servicing every 3500 miles, which is inconvenient and expensive because I cover high mileages.
I also recently rode a Kymco AK550. Great performance and features but 3000 mile service intervals and £10k purchase price! Oh, and small underseat storage capacity, similar in size to the Forza 750's
I recently sat on (but have not ridden) a Forza 350 and it felt a bit toy-like compared to the Burgman but will take a test ride soon. I think the price is very competitive.
I quite like the Forza 750 but it is chain-driven which I will never go back to and the storage capacity is not big enough.
Mind you, adding a Honda top-box and heated grips to the Forza is another £1000+ which is insanely expensive, in my opinion.
Thannks so much, Eric. I hope you will find your scooter of your dreams soon.
Nice video, very informative. I have just ordered a blue one and am waiting for it to arrive. Can’t wait! Many thanks for a great video.
I hope you will enjoy your new scooter! Thanks!
Best looking scooter in 2021.
This is the biggest scooter one can drive in city and the smallest one can drive on the highway. Maybe the perfect balance, if such thing is possible at all.
my tmax cruises through the city fine.
Hi sir, here in the Philippines honda did not release the Forza series. We envy those country with Forza scoot :) I really love that Forza 350. Thank you for mentioning the Philippines, nice review more power to you're channel and ride safe always.
Thanks for sharing and thanks for stopping by!
I've been looking at the forza for a while now, lovely looking scooter with lots of storage. A 350 is plenty of power for every day use I think my mind is made up
Thanks for sharing your thoughts 👍
At $6000 or whatever they cost, I’d get a CRF300L
Couldn't agree more! Thanks for your comment and for watching!
Depends on your use around town the 300 is great and on other roads but longer distance and faster roads esp overtaking at higher speeds the 350 will punch you past more .... more power the better still think a 400 or 450 in this same design would of been better so the gap between the 300 and 750 was smaller
@@deborahchesser7375 not really a fan of the cfr style bikes personally. But thanks for your recommendation 😊
@@wurzel1873 I always had a 'proper' bikes but decided to try a scooter. I have an old honda foresight and the comfort of an automatic gearbox, no chain cleaning and easy, cheap maintenance is amazing. I don't have hand/head waves anymore from 'real' bikers but that is the only drawback
It does look like the best option for a sub 500cc scooter. Great looks, decent power, reasonable price.
I love the look of the 750 but cannot justify the extra £4900 over the 350 which can be picked up generally for around £5100 - £5400 here.
Yes, exactly, except that I don't like the front of the Honda Forza 750, reminds me of the Integra and I never liked that one. :)
@@BenalRida I think maybe £7500 - £8000 would have been a more realistic price for the 750.
But I guess it's priced that high because of the price of the T-max 530 .
There is a big quality difference between those models apart from the bigger engine and DCT gearbox that add to the price.
@@silotx something wrong with forza 750 price. For £8000 you can have nc750x with dct
My dream 😍
a i've had a serious problem, choosing between this or Xmax 300. Honda win because of several little advantages, which determine the overall comfort of use. It has a little better engine, more energetic and developmental. Better brakes, better wind protection with this adjustable windshield/more GT abilities if You plan to use it out of the city. Little better trunk with a nice pocket, also better finished. A lot better, deep front pocket. Working front lights (!), better mirrors. Some better ergonomics solutions - menu function buttons on left side, not on throttle side (!). Also You can switch off TC by dedicated one switch, not need to search this in menu. It's probably also little better balanced - battery is between the seat and the tank. Finally Forza have a better stock tires. I have to say Xmax also has some serious advantages. Better front forks, little lower fuel consumption and in my opinion some better finishing materials. And You can buy it used if not afraid of that.
I am in between the two. And I don’t really know which one to buy man. Very tough decision. Unfortunately they both have bad rear suspensions.
This is one beautiful scooter. Hopefully I’ll be able to buy it soon.
Hello Roni, there is a second video of the Honda Forza 350 coming up soon. So stay tuned!
Very nice bike. Great reveiw. Well done buddy. Cheers.
Glad you enjoyed it Thanks!
" I dont want to risk my life i won't test max spd"
- Going almost 140 klm per hour :D
Very good video. You speak excellent English too!
Thanks very much for watching!
I love the way he tells us where the seat is LOL . Great video , keep them coming
I tested this 350 model whilst mine was getting serviced (forza 300) and my impression was it is much quicker at spinning up than the 300 which i find lacking until it gathers speed at the upper end.. I have traded mine in for this one after 12 months use... much quicker on overtakes esp in the mid range 50mph plus. I still have to think ahead but not so much so compared to the 300 the seat feels narrower and feel my knees futher down rather than towards my chest but it is marginal but more comfort is better even if it is small touches... my only gripe is the change of design on the rear pillion handles i will have to buy another top box rack.... more expense rather than a transfer..
Maybe a bigger engine more fuel use ?
I also tested the 300 a while back and I immediately felt that the power was not enough for me or rather the jump from the 125 wasn't so big, but the 350 feels different now and now more on par with the Yamaha XMAX series.
Yes, I'm thinking of trading up to the 350 from the 300. I love my 300 (I also have a 750 motorbike) as it's my winter workhorse as I ride all year round. I've also been touring on it and it's been superb. So that little extra power and acceleration sounds like a winner. thanks for your comments and ride safe.
@@pommiegranite464 yeah I love my 300 too but it's not a race horse.overtakes need 2nd and 3rd looks riding the 350 it has a spring on its step... not a lot more but much better at overtakes and getting up to speed quicker... test one back to back with the 300 and see what you think
@@magpiemale I will. Many thanks Neil for your reply.
A friend bought the 350 a few days ago and took the grab handles off his old 300 so that he didn’t have to go to any further expense buying a new carrier for his top box. It only took a few minutes to do the transfer. The newer grab handles were made of plastic. The fuel consumption on the 350 was also found to be better than the 300.
Nice scooter and lots of helpful features. The downside is the travel and performance of the stock suspension, is very much lacking at the price point. I had a test ride. A suspension upgrade is a must... That said the road surfaces in Thailand are not as good as Europe on a Urban basis.. Liked and subbed..
Hello, I am not sure where you are in the world. Apparently they use different parts for different parts of the world. For example the seat is different in Thailand and I think the shocks are different as well. I watched the video from Red Cowboy Media and I did not notice the problems he was describing in his video. Thanks very much for your comment.
@@BenalRida Is the engine the same in all parts of the world or are there performance differences from country to country?
As far as I know the engine is the same, yes.
i got one of this... fantastic scooter... but the wind shield should go 1 more cm up.... to reduce more noice... my toughts.. they put the wind shield on this model 3.5 cm more up on this modell on Honda Forxa 300 cc it wass 3,5 cm less
... topbox u can get two types, 35 and 45 liter... i have 45 and have good place to put things in it.... :D also good place for helmets under the seat but also other thinghs...
Congratulations on your new scooter! I also like it very much!
The wind screen is great that that it can be moved up and down while riding
Forza 350 might doesnt have start and stop because has bigger engine which would be harder for the system to operate right on a sudden push of throttle... maybe it is easier for smaller engines to have this attribute. Does any other 300cc ++ scooter has start and stop? i dont think so...
When you use traction control or not ? Can I ride always with traction control ON ? Good review as usual... cheers from Ireland 🖐️🇮🇪
Yes, that's why it always turns back on automatically after each restart. It's a safety feature like ABS and should always be on.
@@BenalRida always tought traction control was for using when it was raining and slippery... never tought to use that control all the time... that i will do now after reading this ;)
@@Sveinjk Anything can happen with the road surface. Why not leave it on? Won't hurt ...
Thanks!!! Would Love to see a segment on lanesplitting!!
Hello, thanks for watching. Why do you say that? Do you think it is too wide for that?
@@BenalRida feels wide when u are sitting on that 350`` remember when i was driving my 50 CC scooter i was line splitting easyli`` havent done it so much with my 350`` :D , but i have done it ... no problem...
This bike is quicker than xmax 0-60 by 1.4sec , xmax cvt works differently so you have a feeling it got more power
So it’s not on par
Currently the Honda Stop Start technology is only designed for up to 125cc. They use the AC electronic stator technology to quickly start the engine, they don't have a traditional starter motor. I'm sure if it was possible on higher cc engines then Honda would implement it.
Very well done, thank you for the review
Thanks very much for watching!
Nice model I am between this forza 350 and Yamaha xmax....
Hello!! I just find your video, and i really like it. I hope for the future can try this moto.
For another part i have checked that you are on Málaga. If i can recomend you something, next to "el palo" ( a neighborhood) you can find nice place to eat nice fish and soo nice spot to maker your videos. This area, and also cala del moral y Rincon de la victoria could have nice light to record your videos. Thank you for this video.😉😉
Thanks very much for your comment. Are you talking about this area?! th-cam.com/video/PGZNdr1lVCI/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the review. I see you like it more than the Forza 300 which you tested earlier.
I will be buying a new Forza 350 here in the UK in the next few weeks. Unfortunately, the choice of colour we have isn’t very good... only light grey, dark grey or matt blue. I wish we also had both red and white to choose from. I have an SH300 in beautiful metallic red.
Hello, unfortunately, the Honda Forza 350 is not available here in red, only the 125cc. If I were to buy it now, I would choose the blue one, not my favorite color, but better than grey and black. :)
Me too a nice red colour... i choose the blue cannot understand the grey colours all blaa....
Hi...did you get your Forza? If so how are you finding it?
@@user-ck6kq8zl2i Hi, yes, last year I got it.
Now I have done about 7500 miles and enjoy riding it. Great engine and very comfortable... But now that Honda have introduced the ADV350 I think I will swap my Forza for one if Honda change the colours of the ADV for next year. It’s almost the same as the Forza, but has different styling which I like.
@@AkaWilf Yes I think the ADV looks better but it's also a lot wider at the bars than the forza..which is relevant to me for traffic and squeezing it through the back gate.
Good video buddy, thanks. Can I just ask, how do you record your voice over the noise of the wind? With my GoPro, it just records wind noise and nothing else - I cannot hear my voice so I’m guessing you have an external mic of some sort?
Hello, to record the sound in a helmet is always a problem and sometimes involves a lot of trail and error. Currently I am using a cut-off mic from an Iphone headset to record the audio. I have connected it to the hideous GoPro audio adapter and this to the GoPro. Hope that helps?!?
How would you say it compares with the sh 300 or 350 it does have more weather protection and that is important more for NE U.K. Do you think the plastic wind screen is different from that of the sh mods
Because they seem to be clearer to look through that the Sh models. Also the price is not a to great a difference!! Thanks for your evaluation it was very good.
Hello, I am not sure about the actual differences, however, I am not a big fan of the SH 350, since it has a very heavy front and the Forza 350 is more streamlined and practical I think, also better for highway riding.
Nice review of the Forza 350
Thanks, Eagle, how are you keeping?
@@BenalRida Ok thanks my friend and yourself
Not too shabby. Need some money to buy me a new scooter :) Take care!
Loving the reviews! How does it compare to the 2020 xmax 300 power wise?
Hello, not sure anymore, review has been a few months back already, but I will test ride the new XMAX300 and then we will see. Thanks.
True - as you said, you have to consider your weight, but what size is your inside leg. Saw a 5ft 6" guy with a 30-inch inside leg and he was tippy toes just like you, so guessing you have a shorter inside leg given that you are 2 inches taller than him. Would guess you are 28-inch inside leg?? Is that about right? Thanks for the good video. Love from Scotland, X
I cannot believe it, but I measured the inside of my leg for you 🤣 I measauesd 29.5 inches. Could that be about right? I have teeny tiny duck legs.
@@BenalRida Ha!! Thank you! Love from Scotland, X.
Thank you for your recommendation on the 350 scooter. Did you feel there was a problem with the rear shocks of the scooter as a red cowboy complained And does the windshield make noise while driving and not hard enough? Thanks for the video.
Hello, no, I did not notice any of those complaints from Red Cowboy.
I have the Forza 300 and weigh 17 stones and the rear shocks are excellent.
Impressive bike! I'm a happy owner of the ADV150 but am starting to think I'd like something with a little more top-end power, for overtaking and more comfy freeway cruising. Maybe the 350 could be the bike for me?
Yes, the 350 is very nice.
I've got an ADV-150 too and happy about her! I plan to do the same: upgrade to the Forza 350 when it arrives here in Brazil.
@@paulocelso68 Hello Paulo, we don't have the ADV 150 here :( Thanks for watching!
good
Thanks
Regarding the comments from the guy in Thailand/Philippines I imagine one possible reason he found the bike uncomfortable, specifically the seat, may be because many Thai and Filipino people tend to be shorter/smaller so may have lead to his negative feedback on seating. Just a guess. The Honda seems like a real quality bike. For me tho the looks are a bit generic- I mean it looks a lot like many other bikes out there. Just my 2 pesetas, er, I mean 2 cents :-)
Hello WestHam, thanks for your comment, but no, I don't think it was because of that. I am fairly sure this guy is American (Red Cowboy Media) and he showed the seat and it looks different to what I saw on this scooter. So my conclusion is they use different parts for different regions in the world. But thanks for watching :)
@@BenalRida I will be moving to Thailand for good once the borders open. I have spent a total of about 3 years there and have always rented a PCX 150, the biggest seller in the country (as far as I remember from March 2020). It was adequate for what I needed then. I came home and for the past year and a half have been riding my Kawasaki Vulcan 1600, so I will need a bigger bike when I return. I think the Forza 350 will fit the bill nicely, but it seems I may need a suspension upgrade because it will be me at about 195 lb. and my wife at about 100 lb. nearly all of the time. I had rented and tested the 300 but was a little underwhelmed by the lack of low end torque, especially considering it was twice the displacement as the PCX. Thanks, Honda, for the extra 50cc and thanks, BenalRida for the wonderful review.
9:15: Probably downhill. "Scooter & Sport" measured it with about 10 seconds unstead 7
Love your reviews, they have got better and better over time! love the 0/100kph I have a Yamaha xMax 300 and the Forza 350 is 2 seconds quicker than the Xmax 300 to 100kph! might be worth a look? but tbh i do fancy the Honda XADV its a lot of Money but maybe! Have you reviewed it yet?? If not can you?
Hello Michael! Glad you like them! Until now, I was not really able to make test rides on bigger bikes, but since I have just received my A license, I will do a review of the Honda Forza 750 and the X-ADV. That would be no problem :)
@@BenalRida nice, i will look forward to them!
You show the wind screen going up and down except you don’t show the windscreen ooppps
Hmmmm - no detail on the trip computer function or off road capability ? - Video way too long for the useful information supplied
Can you plz test the all new 2021 Honda PCX 160 ABS. Thanks for the videos!
Hello NavySeal, thanks for your comment. The Honda PCX 2021 video is in the works and should be coming up next Monday. Thanks for watching!
there is no honda forza in the Philippines.. honda phil did not bring that bike to our country 😫
Sorry, my friend.
In your opinion which is better buy, this one, Yamaha xmax 300 or Piaggio Beverly 350? Thank you
If I were in a position to decide, I would choose the Honda Forza 350, although I have now bought the XMAX 300 but that was basically because of the Honda dealer.
@@BenalRida Thanks 🙏
My Forza 300 is 3 years old and am wondering whether to upgrade to the 350.
Yes, you should. You will feel the difference I am sure.
Wow 7seconds to 100km? That’s really quick
Yes, not too bad.
@@BenalRida But excuse me, 7.04 seconds from 0-100 km / h and with the windshield fully raised to the maximum? It is definitely a very elaborate and modified Honda Forza 350. Quite right?
At the speedo. Around 10 sec with gps
I see you have tried the Xciting S400. Which one would you buy ?
Definitely the Honda Forza 350 :)
@@BenalRida And could You tell + or - Forza 350 vs Xciting s400? I'm choosing between these scooters.
@@tadkai Hello, for me a scooter must be practical meaning it needs to have loads of storage space under the seat and that's what the Honda Forza 350 has got. Also, I noticed a lot of wind on my lower legs when riding on it at higher speeds. Never experienced that on other scooters. I personally like the Honda better.
I have the 300 Forza it's a great scooter the only downside is the front suspension. The 350 has the same suspension, disappointing. The screen is a little higher.
Frank Stocker, the front forks on the Honda was one of the reasons why I went with a Yamaha Xmax300.
@@guysmith3146 yes but the rear suspension of the xmax is worse than the Honda. Difficult to decide, but over all Honda 350 has a better engine even if xmax is more beautiful.
@@Anton-. and more space for the legs
what would you choose between zontes 350e and this
Hello, oh difficult decision. If you want to go traditional, I would take the Honda Forza 350, but if money is a problem, and you want the most for it, I guess I would try the Zontes.
It looks like 2012 Kymco Downtown
I saw the same video it appears the Thailand seat is different design
It's not the scooter I guess... The real beauty is the road and the views around.. 😀
Thanks anyways :)
sir BenalRida, in your own honest review, between FORZA 350 and the XMAX 300, which of the two has the more powerful engine and more torque / easy accelaration power ?
tnx ser
im from the Philippines and owning XMAX 300 , its average top speed only i can reach is 144 kph ..
Hello, I don't know, really. I tested the XMAX300 a while ago and i cannot compare these two in my mind. I would say they are the same :)
@@BenalRida ok sir tnx a lot for ur reply
ride safe always
godbless
Hola from Thailand!
Hello there! Thanks for checking out my channel :)
But excuse me, 7.04 seconds from 0-100 km / h and with the windshield fully raised to the maximum? It is definitely a very elaborate and modified Honda Forza 350. Quite right?
Hello, I don't really understand what you are asking of me??!
@@BenalRida Is the scooter you tried modified or is it original? In addition, is the 0-100 km / h speedometer or gps?
Hello, no, it was a stock scooter. The acceleration 0 to 100 I measured by looking at the speedometer, so no GPS involved there.
@@BenalRida What maximum speed were you able to reach?
In Indonesia Xmax more popular cause the price is cheaper than forza
Underseat is almost as good as the 125. Really?
Yes, almost. A bit less space in the direction to the front.
@@BenalRida That's a negative.
Can you do night ride and talk about any day time running lights thanks
Hello Stevie, I am sorry, but I had the 350 only for a short test ride which was not at night.
@@BenalRida it was a tough decision but went for the 2021 X Max 300.
1.99% finance here in Australia 🇦🇺 sold it to me.
Still love the Forza.
Why not show windscreen up and down?
Hello, I am sorry, I am always making two videos, one for English, one for German. I guess I forgot for English. I think you can see it in the German video: th-cam.com/video/_IWGgRlrlUQ/w-d-xo.html
4k 👍
Of course, what else?
Nice. 🤸🍀🎼👏
Thanks for watching!
no changes reported from last year. just bigger engine - 350
Forza 350 or Adv 350 now for city mostly?
Still I would choose the new ADV350 ... :)
I would like the 750 but not for £10 000 MAYBE £8000 SO IM thinking about 350cc
Same here Richard!
Would you choose this or the C GT 400 BWM scooter? I think I would still prefer the BMW
Hello, depends on what you want and how much money you have available. I think the BMW is quite a bit more expensive. For me the BMW does not have enough storage space under the seat, so I would choose the Honda.
The bmw is nearly double the price......?
@@snozzybosch7503 No, I think the BMW is about 1500 to 2000 EUR more expensive.
@@snozzybosch7503 I did a quick search and found in Spain the Honda starts at 5950 euros. The BMW (GT version) starts at 7990. The is also a lower spec model, the C 400X, for 6990 euros. Not sure but might be able to negotiate lower prices on the BMW since it's been out a while.
Hi i own c400 gt. I just test rode forza 350. I live in Uk . I got my c400gt for £5900, an ex demo with over 2 years of manufacturer’s warranty( more than a new Honda ). A new forza 350 is around £5500 and feels very basic comparing to c400 gt . Mine has alarm, TFT with turn by turn gps , heated seat heated grips. Lumbar support on c400gt is excellent, seat is more comfortable.Forza quality is good but c400gt fit and finish is on another level in my opinion. Both scoters handle very well, Honda engine is smoother, similar performance. Big difference is the front brake: c400 gt has a double disc . You may not notice it at lower speeds but if you hit the front brake at higher speed you notice a big difference. C400gt front break is much better, safer. Honda’s storage is very impressive. Because of little price difference( in my instance) i would choose c400gt every time . But if I was to pay over £8000 for well equipped new Bmw I would probably choose forza 350 . Forza 350 is an excellent scooter, well priced, the engine is so smooth comparing to Bmw . I really enjoyed test riding forza 350
Does it have cruiz control?
Hello, not it does not, sorry.
I hope there will be Forza400 using two cylinders engine and DCT in future
Maybe you are looking for the Honda Forza 750? Test ride coming up soon on this channel.
Oh man what’s with the music? It’s about motor cycles it’s not a concert so off putting even though your vid is good
your choice xmax or forza?
Hello, I would prefer the Honda Forza 350 but I bought a XMAX 300, which has other reasons though :) Thanks for watching!
Did any one noticed a Cat Face with Ears, Eyes & Mouth etc at 6 : 10 😂😂😂
No, did not notice a cat face. Where was that?
Yes, I allways see that when looking at the Honda Forza. The "cat" looks like some kind of happy cartoon character, I think.. 🌞
@@BenalRida yes a Happy cat
good 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
@@BenalRida ^^♡
Какая страна, и что за город который вы проезжали?
Здравствуйте, я в Испании и уехал из Малаги.
@@BenalRida спасибо
Windscreen go up and dowwnnnnn. 😳😳But we cannot see 😂
Yes, that sucked :( But what can I do? I'm too stupid to operate the camera :)
@@BenalRida haha Noo, You’re not stupid to operate the camera, You are one of a kind ⭐️, I just found it funny 😄, That makes you sincere and fun at the same time. Thank you for your effort☺️👏
One Love ☝️
I rarely use the upper position on the screen always in the lower as it buffers more.
honda forza made in country?
is better then the Xmax tho?
Well, I need to test the new XMAX300 first. Haven't had the chance yet.
Preffer SH
forza350 0r cb500x???
Hello, you cannot really compare both of them. It depends on what you want with it. If you want comfort and storage space without the need to buy side cases, I guess I would recommend the Honda Forza 350.
I prefer scooters over motorbikes.
Der MotoFuzzi kann auch englisch .... na prost !
mönsch...ich denk das Video kennst du doch...dann die Stimme...alles klar...Fuzzi :-)
Hallo, schöne Grüße und vielen Dank fürs Einschalten :)
X max or forza?
Hello, that is a good question. I haven't tested the new 2021 XMAX yet.
As an xmax owner, I think the fairing mounted mirrors and the powered adjustable screen are better on the Honda. Though overall I would still go for the xmax if I was buying today.
@@guysmith3146 why?
@@Anton-. The xmax has better front forks. The powered adjustable screen is better on the Honda as is the indicators mounted in the mirrors. For me though the xmax is just a better all round package.
@@guysmith3146 I have a Beverly 300hp and I am thinking of buying either an xmax 300 or a Honda forza 350. Difficult choice, thanks for your answer.
*There is ZERO reason for this scooter to weigh 400lbs, ridiculous!*