Hand Forged Hay Hook
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ต.ค. 2024
- A common tool used on farms, Trent forges a Hay Hook which can be used to help farmers lift and move hay bales around the farm.
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I’m so glad these videos are not edited entirely. I can’t tell you how defeated I feel sometimes when I can’t get things right. The saying “he makes it look so easy” always thunders in my head when I mess up. I forget that videos can be edited.
So thank you for allowing yourself to be seen in an unedited form!!
I appreciate showing the whole process, blemishes and all. Plus your commentary during such episodes is hilarious. Thanks
People have been really liking it. Going to try and stick to the format for a while!
Back in the day when every community had a blacksmith those guys were busy! So, if you're a smith working in a small village shop and you've got a lot of pending job orders, you're not going to have the luxury of forging a "perfect" hay hook. Functionality was more important than appearances. As an artist, you naturally want to make this thing look great, but what you made in this video is far more representative of reality. I greatly enjoyed watching the process.
I feel the same way, doing it as "they did" sometimes mean something very different than our conceptions
Use a hay hook more times than I can remember. Having the hook offset to the pointer finger side of the hand made it a lot easier to use especially when pitching a bale up into a loft of a barn .
Think I have seen a set of those that were offset....
I think it’s important to show people the practical tools and items which was traditionally made
Its always a struggle between being "Professional" and being "Authentic"
@@purgatoryironworks indeed it is! We see every imperfection and others think it’s just perfect.
Trent come on man don't be hard on yourself like that. It works and your right those old timey blacksmiths had 1000s of hours on the anvil I do not think there was ever a perfect piece made Thanks for the demo.
You're very welcome but as a performer, you always cringe at anything less than perfection
Having made a hayhook in metalshop class back in the seventies, I can say getting the handle to look even is a big PITA. But what is even more important is getting the angle of the point right, so it goes easily into the bale of hay and releases it cleanly. Also a lot of the hayhooks that my grandparents had around the barn just had the end of the handle wrapped around the shaft, not welded.
I dont think Ive ever seen one just wrapped. Just goes to show how the get it done mentality worked
When I've used a hay hook I was too busy, and ultimately too tired, to notice if the dimensions were perfect. Looks perfectly functional to me.
I feel this.....in my elbows
That looks nice, I need to make a couple for our place. Thanks.
1. Many of us who work with hundreds or thousands of small bales a year will still ask a smith (even our farrier) or a friend who welds to make one as buying the commercial ones we still need to have altered and I can assure you that the commercial ones are not always the same size like they say.
2. You are seeing it through the eyes of what was the one picked out for a book (probably the best looking of the bunch) and then you are thinking about even lines and perfect shapes and roundness when the people who have used them and have even used 100 year old ones know that having an offset line out for the hook can be better for some people as we put it between our pointer and middle finger for better control when stacking bales or moving them around in tight spaces. Other grips were better for larger handed individuals who had large hands and their entire hand covered the handled so the hook would fit between their middle finger and their ring finger and they did more of the heavy lifting of moving hay. The actual length in total from where the person grips to where the hook curve is also varies, even in the ones sold today, but the best I have found is around 11 inches, they go from 9 inches all the way to 16 inches and the size is determined by the size of the person, the size of the bales, they are stil used with loose hay, and not only are they used with hay/straw, but they were and still can be used with logs because bending over to wrap your hands around stuff sucks so grabbing it with tools doesn't give you arthritis by 30 yrs old.
3. It's not about the hook being so perfectly round, but about the hook coming back around in such an angle where the depth of the curve makes it not too open for the hay to fall off the hook. I've seen people try to do them being barely round and they don't have enough depth in a curve to hold the bale with less physical force, which is why we use them. It doesn't have to be a perfect circle as many are not, but it needs to be a deep enough curvature that when it comes back around the hay will be locked in and wont fall off being hooked by it. Imagine if you just took that and put it into a bale of hay and pulled - would it stay hooked in or is the curve back so little that it would fall out when yanked on?
4. It's not antique. We still make them, buy them, sell them, and use them just like the one you are making and for a nicely made one we pay $50 a pair because many of the commercial ones suck many times. We (people who own horses, sheep, goats, etc.) look for older ones at farm auctions because many handles were quality woods and were made by farmers and work very very well. They are still very commonly used today so I laugh when I see it called a primitive tool as it's in many barns I go to in 2023. I'm a primitive woman I guess and these commercial companies selling painted primitive tools in 2023!!!
Perfection is the enemy of good enough. It doesn't need to be perfect it needs to work. It does...
Your worst forge weld is still better than my best
Just need a little practice!
Could you put the handle over the tail of the anvil to get it squared up?
What needed to happen was a proper form to be made. Always run a jig!
It is a Basic Hay Hook, it can't. even. ☕
That's just a left handed hay hook. If you bent the hook the other way it'd be right handed. Having used them bucking hay it was a lot easier when using hook the were off set and the farmer made them that way on purpose.
What does mean hay hook? For what it was used?
It is used to move bales of hay. It is essentially a handle. I used one in my right hand and guided the bales with my left.
They were used in pairs to handle square bales of hay. Now, the hooks pre date square bales and were used for several other things before.
@@purgatoryironworks hay is stems of wheat and rye? I'm lazy to use the translator (excuse me)
Aaron - Hay is cut and dried grass for animal fodder, wheat and rye stems would be straw and usually used for animal bedding
@@ferretgubbins oh, thank you much for explanation!
Fusion Cocaine! Lol
Does the weld need to be there at all? Or would the metal be strong enough just on its own?
Square bales of hay are between 40 and 80lbs. You don't NEED the forge weld, but it sure makes it last longer.
The weld is the proper way to go. Faster than a rivet and most likely more durable as well
Yeah, I don’t know what I was thinking there. Forgive me Master for I have sinned. I have committed the sin of posting with out thinking.
It’s drop forged now
A few times over.
love your channel and want to see more and learn more but i also NEED to see you MESS UP at times to know how to fix the many mess ups that i do every time i stand in front of the fire PLEASE don't edit out all of your screw ups
I appreciate the offset, makes me feel better at my skill level, haha! Now, one of the hay hooks I used back in the hay loft had an unevenness to it, I always assumed it had been damaged and welded back together, but this makes me think maybe he was done hammering it to death! Thanks, Trent, I love your channel!
its amazing what you learn by doing!