daang nice Revenge of the Jedi poster behind you! also dang it, I just ordered the cables from Stone Age Gamer yesterday for $70 total after shipping, I saw them on castlevania website for a little bit more but didn't realize there was a coupon code. Edit: Neverminddd, there was a reason I didn't order from them, they are still sold out. Both Snes and Genesis versions.. This video is from 2018 but dang, 2024 they don't have them in stock. Stone Age Gamer is the place to go. I actually bought an NTSC Super Nintendo 2-chip with Super Mario World and Donkey Kong Country, along with an Snes Advantage controller (and I love that controller so much! It feels very nice, its not quite Arcade but for a console its great), I then found 3 CRT TV's during a recycling event on the curb, 2 of them had S-Video and Component on them (a Toshiba and Sony Trinitron), so I managed to purchase an FX Pak Pro from Krikzz and got everything set up, so now I have a 32 inch Sony Trinitron where the Composite connection looks amazingly clear, but I just bought an HD Retrovision Component cable yesterday because I need to know what this looks like with component on a real Snes with an SD2Snes cart, and one of the best CRT TV's you can get. This CRT was made in 2006 so everything still works pretty great on it, though I don't have a remote controller and its a little beat up and the connections are somewhat rusty after nearly 20 years.. but it still works just fine!
@@RoXolid I was looking for those snes component cables but they were All out of stock on the castle vania website. Would’ve definitely helped to use that 10% off code though because they are expensive, spending $70 on one snes component cable was a kick in the nuts for sure.
@@RoXolid i seem to vaguely remember using the component cable from a gamecube on a snes years ago, i remeber thinking how great it looked without the typical noise you get with the coax
What's the difference between the HDRetrovision ps1 adapter and the ps2/ps3 component cable? Can I just use the ps2/ps3 component cables and use it on the ps1?
You forgot to mention that S Video is an option for the Snes as well. I used and still have the Purple Monster S Video cable that works for Snes, N64, and Gamecube. I use the HD Retrovision cables on my Snes now but that Monster S Video Cable does a heck of a job too.
Gametourny 4ever A good pair of S-video cables gets you pretty close to YPbPr... and also costs almost as much :D I do a Monster vs. HD Retrovision in my PS1 adapter review.
only downside is S-Video doesn't do any line doubling or tripling, so you will have a really blurry image on a modern TV. if you have the OSSC, it'll look great
@@joesaiditstrue Man. Neat to see folks still responding to 3 year old comments. So now a days I only use S Video on two consoles I own. The 3DO and the Cdi. I have two Monster S Video cables for both and they look great on this pretty big Panasonic Tube TV I acquired yesterday.
@@ChristopherAndersonPirate I love the commenting years later! Another update since my last one. I only use S Video on one Console now. My Philips Cdi. Everything else uses HD Retrovision Component cables naturally or from an Rgb mod. The S Video does look nice on the Cdi with no checker-boarding. Again, I am using a Monster S Video cable on a Crt though.
I have had these cables for a while now for both the SNES and the Genesis and I can assure you that they are the best solution without modding your console. I have them plugged into a old Sony CRT and the quality of the image is impressive compared to regular AV cables and most important, they cost only ~$55.
Exactly, for the cost of a modern game you get to upgrade your video quality amazingly with these. The value is great, the performance is great, I cannot recommend these highly enough!!
Just got these for my SNES at my shop. It is amazing on a CRT with these cables. The sharpness is unreal and the colors pop. Worth the $70 and 18 month wait hahaha
I was going to try this pro code for 10% off in 2024, but the castlevania website doesn't have the Genesis or Snes cables in stock, so I had to go stone age gamer, they only had a $1 off sale lol. I am wondering though if me buying an Snes component cable was a good choice, like if you can use an adapter to convert that one to other systems, or if it's only the Genesis version and I am wasting my money because I'll have to buy more component cables in the future.
My Samsung q90r kept jittering when i used the OSSC and SNES. The signal would get lost randomly (no signal warning) no matter what line mode. I was pretty downbeat because of this and decided to think of things i could do. Eventually i decided maybe the Mclassic in linethru mode attached to the OSSC would correct the signal. BAM! Everything works perfectly. Luckily i had one lying around otherwise i would have to had installed a dejitter PCB to the SNES and i didn't fancy doing that. Hope this piece of info helps anyone who needs it. Maybe other things connected to the OSSC might work too
@@RoXolid If you know some profiles i would love to know them. I tried everything. Most people said i needed to install the dejitter mod on my s famicom. luckily the mclassic was near by
I would love those cables for my SNES but I'm spoiled with 10 dollar max cables for mostly anything I need. Just love how a lot of SNES had built in rgb or whatever. The way you gave to test was very helpful.
The quality on the HD Retrovision cables is amazing, I've yet to see anything else that compares, but there are also more options out there I need to test!
RoXolid Productions I've been searching since I posted for all my cables and stuff to test my snes haha. Yeah the quality seems good and it's much cheaper/easier to buy some cables instead of alternatives. Thanks for the reply
RoXolid Productions sorry P.S. I think you should have mentioned you can play super famicom games on the snes! :) you just have to break the tabs which some people dont like to do.
I am one of those people who don't like to do that, that's why I have both a Super NES and a super famicom. I'd rather not break off the tabs but I know that it is a relatively easy thing to do.
I just ordered one of these to try with my Component to HDMI converter box to easier interface with my capture setup. I was recently at a convention (Otakon in Wash DC) and I picked up an SFC with Super Bomberman, and it looks great via composite (my BMD Intensity Pro 4k sees it just fine), but I could only imagine what it'd look like with component. I did get an AV2HDMI upscale box to try, and while it works and successfully converts the SFC's composite signals to HDMI, there's this consistent green bar/green pattern on screen in the middle and that really annoys me. I really hope these HD RetroVision cables attached to my HDMI converter box works well for me. I'll report back. Great video! Just subbed.
Thank you so much! I have found those cheap component/composite to HDMI converters are generally pretty crummy. There's a new item out called the Retro Tink we have on order from CastlemaniaGames.com that we'll be reviewing too. For $99 it promises to really do a lot of cool things. We're hoping to have ours soon!
I hate to disappoint you but I didn't use your discount to get the HD Retrovision SNES/SFC component cable... I got it offa eBay for $70, but still from CastleManiaGames' eBay presence. I'm awaiting its arrival so I can test it. The RetroTink looks interesting... Maybe I'll grab it after I see your review, but I'm hoping I can get a native SFC capture setup going before November in time for Extra Life 2018. I'll be sure to report back my findings with the HDR Component cable coupled with my component-to-HDMI box.
Not disappointing to me, I don't get anything out of people using the promo code, it just saves people money. If you're looking for a decent capture card that doesn't cost an arm and a leg I like the EZCap 284. It is what I use to capture all my footage.
Only notes for me are that the HD Retrovision cables take rgb signal but output component (YPbPr) to your TV, not RGB. With that, you're not getting the red, green and blue as mentioned. Also... most TVs today are gonna give you less than equal latency performance when connected directly and getting upscaled internally rather than with the OSSC as you have on your demo TV. You definitely have the ideal setup though and good stuff overall.
I’m somewhat just getting into the HD retro gaming scene (till now just have been playing original hardware on a CRT) and am somewhat overwhelmed lol. All I wanna do is play my NES and SNES (and maybe n64) games in HD with 0 lag/latency (some NES games would be unplayable) on a smallish 18 inch gaming monitor. Can you help an old guy out? Also don’t wanna spend a fortune. Currently don’t have the monitor (not sure which to get yet), only original hardware and a CRT. If I was gonna enter the HD retro gaming scene from scratch, what should I do, if I want no latency?
@@pcm2fchris Pretty hard to give a cheap solution to check all of those boxes, unfortunately. You've probably already heard this, but sticking to a nice standard definition CRT is probably the best way to keep cost down and not deal with motion blur, latency and poor handling of 240p. From there a set of composite cables for NES and composite/s-video for the snes. The HD retrovision cable for snes is good whether on a CRT that has component or for going to an LCD, however this is where price starts coming into play. For the NES, you're stuck with composite as its best unless you have it modded. One of the Retrotink scalers is probably the next move if you still want to move to LCD and for moderate prices. As for the LCD, itself, you're gonna have to do the research to find a make and model that keeps latency minimal and likely need that external scaler such as the Retrotink2X or OSSC (but then $$). There are plenty of well researched websites and videos on this stuff. Try out the "RetroRGB" and "MyLifeInGaming" channels on youtube for a start or RetroRGB's website. They are two of the best of them out there who place alot of focus on these challenges. Not even two years ago, I was of the same mentality where I just wanted something quick and easy... I still mainly use CRTs for anything PS2 generation and older, for now. I do have the space and like the look and feel of it. Just picked up an OLED for xmas though so I have started courting the OSSC and Tink products. Blaaaah it truly is hard to not fall in.
@@brandontalbort Awesome response here man, thanks for interacting with me. This whole area is something a guy can really fall into - like you said - and quickly be way over his head if he's not very techy. Worst part about it too is that you can't even try out these custom setups to see if you enjoy the gaming experience before you've spent the money. You've just got to buy and see what you think. With that in mind I'm considering just sticking to my CRT and taking the money I'd otherwise spend and upgrading my game collection. Spend $400 on new hardware OR $400 in games? Then again, we *did* just get a new stimulus check, didn't we? :P I'm considering going full boar and upgrading all hardware to something like the following: RetroUSB AVS, gaming monitor (20inch Spectra on amazon for $80 - if you know a reason why this would be a bad idea, please share), and then for SNES some sort of converter I'd use with original hardware to connect to the Spectra (I've heard there's one with no latency for around $60). What I want to avoid first and foremost is latency - because I actually like to play (and beat!) my NES and SNES games, and some of those, esp on NES, are unbeatable (essentially) on emulators (I have a RetroPie) and, from what I've heard, various NES and SNES clones. The N64 and GameCube would just have to stay on the CRT, or be future projects. What do you think? Think the setup would give me what I want?
Sorry, I'm late to the party here. I for one am not a fan of CRTs, as such I HDMI Modded my NES, and everything else either has Component output stock or was modded to component. The NES, unless you get it modded, about the best you'll get without needing a mod is Component video, which the RetroTink Mini will make look about as good as posisble for the money. For the SNES & N64, the Mini can also do S-Video, and MIke at RetroTink has a compatible S-Video Cable you can bundle with the Mini. I'm actually outlining a series of videos to discuss how to play a certain console's games in the best quality, that's a few weeks away yet. I'll be starting with the NES, going through the Nintendo consoles thru the Wii, then move to Sega.
A few other options, but these are pricier and work only on one console is the Super 64 HDMI Adapter from Eon Gaming which will give you HDMI out tapping into (I believe) the S-Video output). For Gamecube, if you have a Digital Output port, you can use the Insurrection Industries Carby ($80), the Eon Gaming GCHD MkII ($149) and Retro-Bit JUST announced a new adapter called the Prism which I'll have more on in the next day or so. I think the Prism is going to be $79.99 as well.
My old school CRT TV has svideo input. I used that for my SNES. It improved the color and picture. Still not sure if I should get this cable. What do you think?
@@butterfly-yh8zn A Standard SNES outputs RGB natively, no mod needed. You can use HD Retrovision component cables or Insurrection Industries SCART cables.
I'm doing mods to my snes I'm painting it metallic black and doing a led mod and already modded it so it plays the super famicom games plus I have super famicom controllers with extension I want to try to keep it both original but updated as well I plan on getting these cables are these cables better then the hdmi hook up?
Does this work with us ganecube? And does it play pal games if i have the action replay disc? (It plays but constantly scrolls black bars on the screen with a standard av cable and s video. Please help. Dont wanna shell out 500.00 for a gc component cable.
No, the GameCube outputs RGB from the digital output, completely different port. You don't have to Shell out that much for the Official component cables. If your system has the Digital output you can use something like the Insurrection Industries Carby HDMI adapter or the Carby Component cables. Both are under $100 each! Review on the cables is shot, I hope to edit it this weekend
@@RoXolid is there anyway i can use any cheaper cable for 480i? Im using s video resident evil 2 pal on ntsc console Is there a simpler option to actually play the game witjout flixkwring black bars? On a usa console with action replay freeloader? Gc
@@RoXolid I have money RoXolid, but I don't want to empty my bank with a five hundred to six hundred converter... Still too this will be a better option to the RGB look...And composite is really terrible.
Hello Gary, which one would you recommend between the HD Retrovision component video cables versus OSSC Open Source Scan Converter. OSSC seems to provide better results but I wonder about its lifetime, whereas a cable has a endless lifetime. Which choice is the wiser?
I’ve got an SNES HD Retrovision cable that doesn’t work on my Sony Bravia TV. It does however display my PS1 240p games and ICO over my PS2’s component cable. I know it’s accepting a 240p signal because my old TV would blank screen at the PS1 and ICO 240p content. Any thoughts to why the TV isn’t locking onto the 240p from the SNES cables? Is the 240p from the PS1/2 component different than the 240p coming from the SNES HD Retrovision cable?
thanks so much, forgive my laziness. Also, I currently have and love the Saturn/Genesis retrovison cables. Really close to pulling the trigger on the SNES ones now that they are back in stock.
Dude they are amazing, I was live streaming last night with my Genesis using them and they look so good. I will be live streaming tonight as well but this time using the Super NES
All these cables are great but I can never find anything available. I would love to support these small businesses but they need to be able to supply their products. So frustrating. 😔
2 things, A) can you take the F-Bomb out please, we try to keep things PG rated. B) HD Retrovision just tweeted out yesterday that cables have arrived and are heading to distributors as we speak! You'll be able to get them again soon!!!
why does a cable like this work without external power, but retrotink (original) requires power? how can i build my own that doesn't use power for cheap? i don't want an upscaler, i want the snes rgb to become component for use on a bubble tube SD CRT that has component.
It's doing something completely different than the RetroTink. There's no upscaling or anything like that going here, and any power it might need it can draw right from the system. For your situation, then just going with these cables is the way to go, you're not going to find a better solution out there.
@@RoXolid I guess i'm old enough to have experienced the first 3 games on NES before the release of World and i was kinda disappointed in World as it didn't feel 'new' to me like the previous 3 did. Guess Yoshis Island was a nice 'new' departure. That's my logic anyway. Great video, thanks for the help getting my SNES to output component.
Very much so. I missed out on Yoshi's Island originally because all the ads made it look like a game for very young kids. Part was the focus on baby Mario, I think if the marketing was different the have may have done better
That is from my brother's band named Block. They have a few tracks they have given me to use over the years for different things. This way there's no worries about copyrights!
Ive had these cables for 2 years or more now n just now got a crt tv off my parents that uses component inputs..from what i can tell for my usesage the s video looks just as good as these cables..it could be my tv not bein a hdtv..my expectations could be set too high..but i read in another form that it could be the snes i use n alao s video on a crt is not alot of difference when usein these cables..i had a friend who had ps2 component cables back in the day n he had a crt tv n he used s video cables told me they looked bettet on his tv..i know component is better than s video but it could be the tv i got..
Hello from Spain! I Would like to know Best option to connect a super nes pal with a tv Bang olufsen mx4000, Tv have only scart and i Would like to know it i could use this hd retrovision cable and if it Would he better thank my packapunnch cable, thanks in advance
@@TheBooleano The Insurrection Industries Cables will work. These are what you want: castlemaniagames.com/products/insurrection-industries-rgb-scart-cable-for-the-snes-super-nintendo
@@RoXolid I don't understand it I actually think the U.S. one is better. I love the box shape & the purple colored buttons. But Japan did get the better looking controller. I need one....lol
I get some people don't like the square shaping of the American version, it is very polygonal, but I will say I prefer the button layout of the US controller over the super famicom controller. The concave convex buttons make it much easier to tell what buttons you're hitting
@@RoXolid thats true, the button layout does help alot. I just really like the colors on the Super Famicon controller. Thank you for the video. I've been wanting to buy a snes but I thought composite was my best bet it terms of video output without buy an over priced converter for scart video
Oh I don't know that it is better looking than the Super Famicom but I just don't have the hate for the US design like many others do. I love the button colors on the controller on the Super Famicom controller but prefer the concave/convex button setup of the North American version.
No. Because it's S-video. Got called out at two different conventions and had nothing to say. Get an rgb to component converter offline, research the quality ones. Don't waste your money on this S-video to component cable
If you would be able to make less expensive quality component video cables then what HD retrovision does I would be interested in buying one from you. Please email me when you have one I could try out, I'd love to see how it works
Hi :D thanks for the video, I do have a question! I have a Retrotink 2X pro and I want a better quality image on my PAL Gamecube, (since I'm from Europe) it should work to improve the graphics with this through the Retrotink. Could you confirm this for me :) ?
$60 is high for a cable. The system is barely worth that in today’s market. I might buy one eventually but that’s too high to be attractive in my opinion. Great video though, as always.
It is but it isn't if that makes sense. I see people spending $20-$30 on AV2HDMI cables and they don't look nearly this good. Now you can save 10% by using Promo Code RoX10 at Castlemaniagames.com too to save some money.
One thing you should do before you buy is make sure you do that 240p test I showed in the video. If your TV isn't compatible then these won't do you any good. Not trying to scare you off, just something you need to be aware of.
No matter what "magic" people keep trying it will always be second place to the correct way to get video from these systems. Genesis, Turbo 16, snes and so on. Get a pvm, if you are short on room they make 14-15' nice rgb monitor like Sony pvms. If you don't have room where you live for a 14" pvm, you shouldn't be buying anything for video games and should start saving up loose change to get out the cardboard box you live in. Rgb monitor, scart or scart to bnc and whatever Amps or mods you want to enhance the quality of the native rgb. Rgb is vastly superior to component. Never play retro on HD tvs like a scrub with a lag fetish, always use a crt, try to get 500 or 700 TV lines minimum in the monitor and make sure that you use a quality rgb cable. Anything else besides this proper setup will be inferior.
Inferior is relative. I never, ever want to own a CRT again. I don't want to play on something with such a small display, and the size, to me, makes any CRT, inferior for what I want to accomplish
@@RoXolid Small? I have pvms and bvms from 14"-37". Actually 37" is too large. I'm very curious what you're wanting to accomplish and at what size this "accomplishment" starts to occur?
@@RoXolid There's a few, but one in particular, very good articles about peripheral vision and pixel "bleeding" individuals in esports use a sort of formula for monitoring size. Too big a screen at optimum distance affects your peripheral vision. If you move away from the screen to compensate for that loss of vision then you have distortion of pixies to the point of blurring.
daang nice Revenge of the Jedi poster behind you!
also dang it, I just ordered the cables from Stone Age Gamer yesterday for $70 total after shipping, I saw them on castlevania website for a little bit more but didn't realize there was a coupon code.
Edit: Neverminddd, there was a reason I didn't order from them, they are still sold out. Both Snes and Genesis versions.. This video is from 2018 but dang, 2024 they don't have them in stock. Stone Age Gamer is the place to go.
I actually bought an NTSC Super Nintendo 2-chip with Super Mario World and Donkey Kong Country, along with an Snes Advantage controller (and I love that controller so much! It feels very nice, its not quite Arcade but for a console its great), I then found 3 CRT TV's during a recycling event on the curb, 2 of them had S-Video and Component on them (a Toshiba and Sony Trinitron), so I managed to purchase an FX Pak Pro from Krikzz and got everything set up, so now I have a 32 inch Sony Trinitron where the Composite connection looks amazingly clear, but I just bought an HD Retrovision Component cable yesterday because I need to know what this looks like with component on a real Snes with an SD2Snes cart, and one of the best CRT TV's you can get. This CRT was made in 2006 so everything still works pretty great on it, though I don't have a remote controller and its a little beat up and the connections are somewhat rusty after nearly 20 years.. but it still works just fine!
Ultra HDMI, RGB, Component cables, etc... all "out of stock" what a great time to be a retro gamer
Which cables are you looking for?
@@RoXolid I was looking for those snes component cables but they were All out of stock on the castle vania website. Would’ve definitely helped to use that 10% off code though because they are expensive, spending $70 on one snes component cable was a kick in the nuts for sure.
I really love these cables! I'd also recommend picking up the HDRetrovision PS1 component adapter as well.
I don't have a PS1 otherwise I would!
RoXolid Productions It's a solid little product too :)
I bet, I love the other cables from them thus far!
@@RoXolid i seem to vaguely remember using the component cable from a gamecube on a snes years ago, i remeber thinking how great it looked without the typical noise you get with the coax
What's the difference between the HDRetrovision ps1 adapter and the ps2/ps3 component cable? Can I just use the ps2/ps3 component cables and use it on the ps1?
You forgot to mention that S Video is an option for the Snes as well. I used and still have the Purple Monster S Video cable that works for Snes, N64, and Gamecube. I use the HD Retrovision cables on my Snes now but that Monster S Video Cable does a heck of a job too.
Gametourny 4ever A good pair of S-video cables gets you pretty close to YPbPr... and also costs almost as much :D I do a Monster vs. HD Retrovision in my PS1 adapter review.
only downside is S-Video doesn't do any line doubling or tripling, so you will have a really blurry image on a modern TV. if you have the OSSC, it'll look great
@@joesaiditstrue Man. Neat to see folks still responding to 3 year old comments. So now a days I only use S Video on two consoles I own. The 3DO and the Cdi. I have two Monster S Video cables for both and they look great on this pretty big Panasonic Tube TV I acquired yesterday.
I considered it but I’ve heard problems of checkerboard patterns so I went for the sure thing instead, this component cable.
@@ChristopherAndersonPirate I love the commenting years later! Another update since my last one. I only use S Video on one Console now. My Philips Cdi. Everything else uses HD Retrovision Component cables naturally or from an Rgb mod. The S Video does look nice on the Cdi with no checker-boarding. Again, I am using a Monster S Video cable on a Crt though.
I like the look of the North American SNES the best as well!! Haha, great video as always - I've got these cables on my radar!
I have had these cables for a while now for both the SNES and the Genesis and I can assure you that they are the best solution without modding your console. I have them plugged into a old Sony CRT and the quality of the image is impressive compared to regular AV cables and most important, they cost only ~$55.
Exactly, for the cost of a modern game you get to upgrade your video quality amazingly with these. The value is great, the performance is great, I cannot recommend these highly enough!!
Carla Acosta The holy Trinitron
Just got these for my SNES at my shop. It is amazing on a CRT with these cables. The sharpness is unreal and the colors pop. Worth the $70 and 18 month wait hahaha
They are truly amazing
These cables on a flat sony trinitron crt with the component hook ups must make games looks incredible.
Super Mario World blew my Mind as a kid! I like the US version too!
But have you beaten it?
RoXolid Productions totally! Multiple times!
Unless I see it I call BS! Lol
SMW's not easy, I'm always sceptical of those who claim they beat it lots of times.
BTW, Super Mario Bros. 3 is the best 2d Mario! Everyone knows that ;)
Best possible video would be, getting a 1-chip or jr, installing a RGB amplifier mod. Using that to go to a high TVL PVM/BVM via RGB
What I did was a Jr, installed Voultar's RGB mod, HD Retrovision Cables and RetroTink 2x
That is definitely overkill, but a possibility. Even Composite on my Sony Trinitron 32 inch looks incredibly good.
Sony KV-XXFV310 through Component vs PVM/BVM through RGB would be the greatest comparison ever
A must buy no doubt!!! Thanks Gary
Anytime!
I love the US SNES version too!!!
Don’t cuss me but I’ve never played any version of Earthworm Jim
It's kinda niche but so much fun! If you like Ratchet and Clank you'd love EWJ
Ok cool. All the times I’ve watched your gameplay of it I’m excited now
Even after 2 years, your pro code still works.
That it does!
I was going to try this pro code for 10% off in 2024, but the castlevania website doesn't have the Genesis or Snes cables in stock, so I had to go stone age gamer, they only had a $1 off sale lol. I am wondering though if me buying an Snes component cable was a good choice, like if you can use an adapter to convert that one to other systems, or if it's only the Genesis version and I am wasting my money because I'll have to buy more component cables in the future.
Great video. SMB3 is better than World, but other than that great video.
My Samsung q90r kept jittering when i used the OSSC and SNES. The signal would get lost randomly (no signal warning) no matter what line mode. I was pretty downbeat because of this and decided to think of things i could do. Eventually i decided maybe the Mclassic in linethru mode attached to the OSSC would correct the signal.
BAM! Everything works perfectly. Luckily i had one lying around otherwise i would have to had installed a dejitter PCB to the SNES and i didn't fancy doing that.
Hope this piece of info helps anyone who needs it. Maybe other things connected to the OSSC might work too
Good to know! I know there are new profiles that are supposed to address this too
@@RoXolid If you know some profiles i would love to know them. I tried everything. Most people said i needed to install the dejitter mod on my s famicom. luckily the mclassic was near by
Cables are soo cool😎😎I’m glad I got mine.My Sega Genesis Model 2 looks amazing😎😎😎GREAT VIDEO GARY😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
They are amazing! A great addition to my setup!
I would love those cables for my SNES but I'm spoiled with 10 dollar max cables for mostly anything I need. Just love how a lot of SNES had built in rgb or whatever. The way you gave to test was very helpful.
The quality on the HD Retrovision cables is amazing, I've yet to see anything else that compares, but there are also more options out there I need to test!
RoXolid Productions I've been searching since I posted for all my cables and stuff to test my snes haha. Yeah the quality seems good and it's much cheaper/easier to buy some cables instead of alternatives. Thanks for the reply
RoXolid Productions sorry P.S. I think you should have mentioned you can play super famicom games on the snes! :) you just have to break the tabs which some people dont like to do.
I am one of those people who don't like to do that, that's why I have both a Super NES and a super famicom. I'd rather not break off the tabs but I know that it is a relatively easy thing to do.
The cables are definitely cheaper than doing an HDMI mod
I just ordered one of these to try with my Component to HDMI converter box to easier interface with my capture setup. I was recently at a convention (Otakon in Wash DC) and I picked up an SFC with Super Bomberman, and it looks great via composite (my BMD Intensity Pro 4k sees it just fine), but I could only imagine what it'd look like with component.
I did get an AV2HDMI upscale box to try, and while it works and successfully converts the SFC's composite signals to HDMI, there's this consistent green bar/green pattern on screen in the middle and that really annoys me. I really hope these HD RetroVision cables attached to my HDMI converter box works well for me. I'll report back. Great video! Just subbed.
Thank you so much! I have found those cheap component/composite to HDMI converters are generally pretty crummy. There's a new item out called the Retro Tink we have on order from CastlemaniaGames.com that we'll be reviewing too. For $99 it promises to really do a lot of cool things. We're hoping to have ours soon!
I hate to disappoint you but I didn't use your discount to get the HD Retrovision SNES/SFC component cable... I got it offa eBay for $70, but still from CastleManiaGames' eBay presence. I'm awaiting its arrival so I can test it. The RetroTink looks interesting... Maybe I'll grab it after I see your review, but I'm hoping I can get a native SFC capture setup going before November in time for Extra Life 2018. I'll be sure to report back my findings with the HDR Component cable coupled with my component-to-HDMI box.
Not disappointing to me, I don't get anything out of people using the promo code, it just saves people money.
If you're looking for a decent capture card that doesn't cost an arm and a leg I like the EZCap 284. It is what I use to capture all my footage.
I think I'll just wait for the RetroTink. Thanks!
agree on link to the past, but still will go to bat for Super Mario 3!!!
SMB3 Is great but SMW just raises the bar so much on what SMB3 did.
Only notes for me are that the HD Retrovision cables take rgb signal but output component (YPbPr) to your TV, not RGB. With that, you're not getting the red, green and blue as mentioned. Also... most TVs today are gonna give you less than equal latency performance when connected directly and getting upscaled internally rather than with the OSSC as you have on your demo TV. You definitely have the ideal setup though and good stuff overall.
I’m somewhat just getting into the HD retro gaming scene (till now just have been playing original hardware on a CRT) and am somewhat overwhelmed lol. All I wanna do is play my NES and SNES (and maybe n64) games in HD with 0 lag/latency (some NES games would be unplayable) on a smallish 18 inch gaming monitor. Can you help an old guy out? Also don’t wanna spend a fortune. Currently don’t have the monitor (not sure which to get yet), only original hardware and a CRT. If I was gonna enter the HD retro gaming scene from scratch, what should I do, if I want no latency?
@@pcm2fchris Pretty hard to give a cheap solution to check all of those boxes, unfortunately. You've probably already heard this, but sticking to a nice standard definition CRT is probably the best way to keep cost down and not deal with motion blur, latency and poor handling of 240p. From there a set of composite cables for NES and composite/s-video for the snes. The HD retrovision cable for snes is good whether on a CRT that has component or for going to an LCD, however this is where price starts coming into play. For the NES, you're stuck with composite as its best unless you have it modded.
One of the Retrotink scalers is probably the next move if you still want to move to LCD and for moderate prices. As for the LCD, itself, you're gonna have to do the research to find a make and model that keeps latency minimal and likely need that external scaler such as the Retrotink2X or OSSC (but then $$).
There are plenty of well researched websites and videos on this stuff. Try out the "RetroRGB" and "MyLifeInGaming" channels on youtube for a start or RetroRGB's website. They are two of the best of them out there who place alot of focus on these challenges.
Not even two years ago, I was of the same mentality where I just wanted something quick and easy... I still mainly use CRTs for anything PS2 generation and older, for now. I do have the space and like the look and feel of it. Just picked up an OLED for xmas though so I have started courting the OSSC and Tink products. Blaaaah it truly is hard to not fall in.
@@brandontalbort Awesome response here man, thanks for interacting with me. This whole area is something a guy can really fall into - like you said - and quickly be way over his head if he's not very techy. Worst part about it too is that you can't even try out these custom setups to see if you enjoy the gaming experience before you've spent the money. You've just got to buy and see what you think. With that in mind I'm considering just sticking to my CRT and taking the money I'd otherwise spend and upgrading my game collection. Spend $400 on new hardware OR $400 in games?
Then again, we *did* just get a new stimulus check, didn't we? :P I'm considering going full boar and upgrading all hardware to something like the following: RetroUSB AVS, gaming monitor (20inch Spectra on amazon for $80 - if you know a reason why this would be a bad idea, please share), and then for SNES some sort of converter I'd use with original hardware to connect to the Spectra (I've heard there's one with no latency for around $60). What I want to avoid first and foremost is latency - because I actually like to play (and beat!) my NES and SNES games, and some of those, esp on NES, are unbeatable (essentially) on emulators (I have a RetroPie) and, from what I've heard, various NES and SNES clones.
The N64 and GameCube would just have to stay on the CRT, or be future projects. What do you think? Think the setup would give me what I want?
Sorry, I'm late to the party here. I for one am not a fan of CRTs, as such I HDMI Modded my NES, and everything else either has Component output stock or was modded to component. The NES, unless you get it modded, about the best you'll get without needing a mod is Component video, which the RetroTink Mini will make look about as good as posisble for the money. For the SNES & N64, the Mini can also do S-Video, and MIke at RetroTink has a compatible S-Video Cable you can bundle with the Mini. I'm actually outlining a series of videos to discuss how to play a certain console's games in the best quality, that's a few weeks away yet. I'll be starting with the NES, going through the Nintendo consoles thru the Wii, then move to Sega.
A few other options, but these are pricier and work only on one console is the Super 64 HDMI Adapter from Eon Gaming which will give you HDMI out tapping into (I believe) the S-Video output). For Gamecube, if you have a Digital Output port, you can use the Insurrection Industries Carby ($80), the Eon Gaming GCHD MkII ($149) and Retro-Bit JUST announced a new adapter called the Prism which I'll have more on in the next day or so. I think the Prism is going to be $79.99 as well.
Great content! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this cable.
Thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching
@@RoXolid my pleasure. I will be doing a similar test/video with this cable and RetroTink 2X pro.
You'll love it! The RetroTink2x Pro is amazing
My old school CRT TV has svideo input. I used that for my SNES. It improved the color and picture. Still not sure if I should get this cable. What do you think?
The HD retrovision cables will look better than s video, right now, however, they're out of stock everywhere.
@@RoXolid they just got back in stock and I used your promo code to order me a set of SNES cables. Thank you for the code and review.
Could you also do a comparison for all the signals too and RGB modded SNES Junior to the SNES Classic for me please RoXolid...
I have a HD Retrovision cable and it's great! Btw, what capture card did you use?
I used an EZcap 284
i seem to remember the standard gamecube component cable works on the snes
It does
@@RoXolid How should it work on a SNES? The Gamecube component cable uses the digital out.
@@butterfly-yh8zn A Standard SNES outputs RGB natively, no mod needed. You can use HD Retrovision component cables or Insurrection Industries SCART cables.
@@RoXolid I know, but he asked about the Gamecube component cable, they don't use the A/V Multiout.
You are right, I misread that as composite and not component
I liked the IndyCar reference
I'm a race fan from way back.
I'm doing mods to my snes I'm painting it metallic black and doing a led mod and already modded it so it plays the super famicom games plus I have super famicom controllers with extension I want to try to keep it both original but updated as well I plan on getting these cables are these cables better then the hdmi hook up?
Does this work with us ganecube? And does it play pal games if i have the action replay disc? (It plays but constantly scrolls black bars on the screen with a standard av cable and s video. Please help. Dont wanna shell out 500.00 for a gc component cable.
No, the GameCube outputs RGB from the digital output, completely different port. You don't have to Shell out that much for the Official component cables. If your system has the Digital output you can use something like the Insurrection Industries Carby HDMI adapter or the Carby Component cables. Both are under $100 each! Review on the cables is shot, I hope to edit it this weekend
@@RoXolid is there anyway i can use any cheaper cable for 480i? Im using s video resident evil 2 pal on ntsc console
Is there a simpler option to actually play the game witjout flixkwring black bars? On a usa console with action replay freeloader? Gc
Will this work with the SNES Jr if the console is modded with RGB?
Would be a good idea instead of buying a Framemeister...
Yes it does, that's my current setup, although I go through a Retro Tink2x
@@RoXolid I have money RoXolid, but I don't want to empty my bank with a five hundred to six hundred converter...
Still too this will be a better option to the RGB look...And composite is really terrible.
Would this cable help as now im getting only black and white picture with bnc connectors from my snes? Im uaing 8" sony pvm
Can I use those component cables for my Super Famicom on my CRT TV??
You should, just make sure to do the 240P test outlined in their website for compatibility is all.
@@RoXolid Thank you for your help👍👍
Of course!
Hello Gary, which one would you recommend between the HD Retrovision component video cables versus OSSC Open Source Scan Converter. OSSC seems to provide better results but I wonder about its lifetime, whereas a cable has a endless lifetime. Which choice is the wiser?
Well you need the HD Retrovision cables, or a Scart cable, to go into the OSSC.
Awesome!! But for me CRT is the only way.
I'll never own another CRT
Will does cables work with my lg oled c6p
Will the component cable work on the A/V famicom nes system too (the system that's identical to the 93 redesigned nes top loader)?
I'm not sure if that has RGB Out or not or if that mult-out is just Composite.
No you need to do a rgb mod to the famicom/ nes
earthworm jim runs at a lower resolution on the SNES compared to the genesis also
I’ve got an SNES HD Retrovision cable that doesn’t work on my Sony Bravia TV. It does however display my PS1 240p games and ICO over my PS2’s component cable. I know it’s accepting a 240p signal because my old TV would blank screen at the PS1 and ICO 240p content. Any thoughts to why the TV isn’t locking onto the 240p from the SNES cables? Is the 240p from the PS1/2 component different than the 240p coming from the SNES HD Retrovision cable?
Shouldn't be, 240p is 240p
@@RoXolid that’s what I figured. Is it possible I could have a defective HD Retrovision cableb
Anything is possible. Have you tried another TV?
Besides my old TV no. I’d need to try it in a TV that I know accepts 240p. Know of one?
I'd say test on a flat panel, if it doesn't display or isn't compatible it won't hurt anything
do you have a review on the Ryu controller? Just found it on retrobit's site, looks cool for sure.
I do, here you go:
th-cam.com/video/N3RGIImFMHs/w-d-xo.html
thanks so much, forgive my laziness.
Also, I currently have and love the Saturn/Genesis retrovison cables. Really close to pulling the trigger on the SNES ones now that they are back in stock.
Dude they are amazing, I was live streaming last night with my Genesis using them and they look so good. I will be live streaming tonight as well but this time using the Super NES
cool, so this is using the OSSC or straight to your TV that's compatible?
To my OSSC, that TV can't handle the signal but I am only using 3x for the upscaling, the same that my Samsung TV I own does natively for 240P
All these cables are great but I can never find anything available. I would love to support these small businesses but they need to be able to supply their products. So frustrating. 😔
2 things, A) can you take the F-Bomb out please, we try to keep things PG rated. B) HD Retrovision just tweeted out yesterday that cables have arrived and are heading to distributors as we speak! You'll be able to get them again soon!!!
@@RoXolid F Bomb removed ...lol...and thanks for the update!
Thanks for understanding
why does a cable like this work without external power, but retrotink (original) requires power? how can i build my own that doesn't use power for cheap? i don't want an upscaler, i want the snes rgb to become component for use on a bubble tube SD CRT that has component.
It's doing something completely different than the RetroTink. There's no upscaling or anything like that going here, and any power it might need it can draw right from the system. For your situation, then just going with these cables is the way to go, you're not going to find a better solution out there.
You can use a SCART cable for the RGB signal and a SCART to component adapter if your TV doesn't support SCART
"i like the way the US version looks" (you would) lol
Oh? It's 90's awesomesauce!
Superdimensional everyone does
Yeah, sorry, Mario 3 is the better 2D Mario, and tbh i personally feel Yoshis Island is a better game than World too.
Wow, I've never heard anyone who said they prefer Yoshi's Island to SMW
@@RoXolid I guess i'm old enough to have experienced the first 3 games on NES before the release of World and i was kinda disappointed in World as it didn't feel 'new' to me like the previous 3 did. Guess Yoshis Island was a nice 'new' departure.
That's my logic anyway.
Great video, thanks for the help getting my SNES to output component.
See, I loved World, it's my favorite Mario game. I liked the first 3, but world is easily Superior to me
@@RoXolid Cool cool. Each to their own :)
Very much so. I missed out on Yoshi's Island originally because all the ads made it look like a game for very young kids. Part was the focus on baby Mario, I think if the marketing was different the have may have done better
Are you insane? Smb 3 are one of the best games ever.....
I never said it wasn't
@@RoXolid haha,, true:b
Does the Gamerz tek super hd 2-in-1 have a reset button?
Yes it does
can it be used to cycle through the games on a multicart?
Couldn't tell you, my multicarts all have menus to select the game, sorry.
What's the intro music
That is from my brother's band named Block. They have a few tracks they have given me to use over the years for different things. This way there's no worries about copyrights!
Ive had these cables for 2 years or more now n just now got a crt tv off my parents that uses component inputs..from what i can tell for my usesage the s video looks just as good as these cables..it could be my tv not bein a hdtv..my expectations could be set too high..but i read in another form that it could be the snes i use n alao s video on a crt is not alot of difference when usein these cables..i had a friend who had ps2 component cables back in the day n he had a crt tv n he used s video cables told me they looked bettet on his tv..i know component is better than s video but it could be the tv i got..
Hard to say. My results look amazing, but I'm also going through either a RetroTink or OSSC
Yes.
Hello from Spain! I Would like to know Best option to connect a super nes pal with a tv Bang olufsen mx4000, Tv have only scart and i Would like to know it i could use this hd retrovision cable and if it Would he better thank my packapunnch cable, thanks in advance
HD Retrovision cables aren't SCART, they're Component cables. Insurrection Industries have SCART cables that would work however.
RoXolid Productions yes! But which is the Best option for me having this tv? I have only scart connections for super nintendo, thanks for all!!!
@@TheBooleano The Insurrection Industries Cables will work. These are what you want:
castlemaniagames.com/products/insurrection-industries-rgb-scart-cable-for-the-snes-super-nintendo
Try with Voultar rgb mod ;)
FZero is the coolest game ever made 😎
You Da man!
I'm weird. I don't like the way the U.S. version looks but I like it squashed down into the Snes classic. I took my nut pills today and everything. 🤔
See, I love the US version, but I do also love the EU/Japanese styling
I prefer the U.S. version to. My very 1st console. To bad it only lasted it me a year
I do love the Super Famicom Styling as well, I just don't have the hate for the US design others have
@@RoXolid I don't understand it I actually think the U.S. one is better. I love the box shape & the purple colored buttons. But Japan did get the better looking controller. I need one....lol
I get some people don't like the square shaping of the American version, it is very polygonal, but I will say I prefer the button layout of the US controller over the super famicom controller. The concave convex buttons make it much easier to tell what buttons you're hitting
@@RoXolid thats true, the button layout does help alot. I just really like the colors on the Super Famicon controller. Thank you for the video. I've been wanting to buy a snes but I thought composite was my best bet it terms of video output without buy an over priced converter for scart video
You're welcome!
I think the USA Super NES is better looking also; I'm looking for a purple micro USB cord for my SNES Classic.
Oh I don't know that it is better looking than the Super Famicom but I just don't have the hate for the US design like many others do. I love the button colors on the controller on the Super Famicom controller but prefer the concave/convex button setup of the North American version.
The Super NES made me notice purple! I got a purple GBC, Indigo/purple GBA, Indigo/purple GameCube....then everything turned white after that. (Apple)
No. Because it's S-video. Got called out at two different conventions and had nothing to say. Get an rgb to component converter offline, research the quality ones. Don't waste your money on this S-video to component cable
Theses use the RGB from the SNES then convert it to component video
Personally i find it too expensive. Diy would be my option. Or aliexpress would be a good option.
If you would be able to make less expensive quality component video cables then what HD retrovision does I would be interested in buying one from you. Please email me when you have one I could try out, I'd love to see how it works
Hi :D thanks for the video, I do have a question! I have a Retrotink 2X pro and I want a better quality image on my PAL Gamecube, (since I'm from Europe) it should work to improve the graphics with this through the Retrotink. Could you confirm this for me :) ?
$60 is high for a cable. The system is barely worth that in today’s market. I might buy one eventually but that’s too high to be attractive in my opinion. Great video though, as always.
It is but it isn't if that makes sense. I see people spending $20-$30 on AV2HDMI cables and they don't look nearly this good. Now you can save 10% by using Promo Code RoX10 at Castlemaniagames.com too to save some money.
I hear ya, and good looks on the discount. It just went from impulse buy to “I’ll think about it” in my thought process at first.
One thing you should do before you buy is make sure you do that 240p test I showed in the video. If your TV isn't compatible then these won't do you any good. Not trying to scare you off, just something you need to be aware of.
Definitely, I’ll look into that first.
Emceemur no.
Mario 3>mario world any and every day of the week
Mario 3 is great, but Mario World is vastly superior in my book
I'll argue it. Super Mario 3 and Sega Genesis is better.
damn starfox runs at like 12fps lol
No matter what "magic" people keep trying it will always be second place to the correct way to get video from these systems. Genesis, Turbo 16, snes and so on. Get a pvm, if you are short on room they make 14-15' nice rgb monitor like Sony pvms. If you don't have room where you live for a 14" pvm, you shouldn't be buying anything for video games and should start saving up loose change to get out the cardboard box you live in.
Rgb monitor, scart or scart to bnc and whatever Amps or mods you want to enhance the quality of the native rgb. Rgb is vastly superior to component. Never play retro on HD tvs like a scrub with a lag fetish, always use a crt, try to get 500 or 700 TV lines minimum in the monitor and make sure that you use a quality rgb cable.
Anything else besides this proper setup will be inferior.
Inferior is relative. I never, ever want to own a CRT again. I don't want to play on something with such a small display, and the size, to me, makes any CRT, inferior for what I want to accomplish
@@RoXolid Small? I have pvms and bvms from 14"-37". Actually 37" is too large. I'm very curious what you're wanting to accomplish and at what size this "accomplishment" starts to occur?
I want to enjoy my games on my 65" and 85" 4K TVs, that's all.
@@RoXolid Any other timely I'd swear this was a joke but for some reason I think you're actually serious
@@RoXolid There's a few, but one in particular, very good articles about peripheral vision and pixel "bleeding" individuals in esports use a sort of formula for monitoring size. Too big a screen at optimum distance affects your peripheral vision. If you move away from the screen to compensate for that loss of vision then you have distortion of pixies to the point of blurring.
Component cables do not split the signal to RGB.