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- Here’s an overview of the RAD2x Nintendo Multi-Out HDMI adapter. It works on all consoles that came with that port, across all regions! More info on the RAD2x itself, as well as the other individual versions are available below.
RAD2x SNES/N64/GameCube/AV Famicom: bit.ly/rad2xnintendo
All RAD2x cables are available here: bit.ly/rad2xhdmi
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Here’s everything we talked about in the order it was mentioned:
Mini HDMI to HDMI Cable: amzn.to/2UfCZwG
Mini HDMI to HDMI Adapter: amzn.to/2v0jn55
1CHIP SNES: www.retrorgb.com/snes1chip.html
Easy SNES Mini & N64 RGB Mods: www.voultar.com/
NES RGB Info: www.retrorgb.com/nesrgb.html
N64 RGB Info: www.retrorgb.com/n64rgbcompat...
RetroTINK2x Pro: bit.ly/tink2xpro
RetroTINK 2x Classic: bit.ly/retrotink2x
SNES Shielded S-Video Cable: bit.ly/snessvideo
Carby GameCube HDMI Adapter: amzn.to/2U2xGk2
HDMI to Component Converter: amzn.to/2zjWsVe
Game Boy Interface Software: www.retrorgb.com/gameboyinter...
All equipment used to shoot this video can be found here: www.amazon.com/shop/retrorgb
00:00 - RAD2x For the Nintendo Multi-Out
01:57 - Super Nintendo
04:38 - AV Famicom & RGB Modded NES
06:04 - Nintendo 64
09:56 - GameCube
12:55 - Conclusion - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
I appreciate you mentioning ways that this will work on PAL consoles !! Great video, super informative 👍🏻
isnt this rad2x working on pal consoles out of the box?
😳 that “professional” NES RGB mod
Horrifying, I hope that is just hot glue and not epoxy otherwise that board is a goner.
Wow, never seen that before. That should be illegal. Lol
It looks like someone had a bit too much fun while they were taking a break from modding and accidentally came all over the board.
That's "Drakon's" work haha. and yes, it's hot glue.
@@AndehX Ah, yes , the infamous "Drakon Mod" signature
I still would have paid more for a RAD2x that tapped S-Video signals if no RGB signals were found. That said, it is true that it serves a very niche use case, and that the N64 is known for good composite hardware. The EON Super 64 (or, as it is known in some circles, the "bootleg RetroTINK") is still somewhat competitive in that space if you really need a Nintendo multi-out to HDMI for those niche use cases.
I would say keep in mind that they're made in the UK &, as he says in the video, our N64s don't support S-Video. It wouldn't make sense to introduce a feature that would cause compatibility issues in the region they're actually made in! Although, if there was enough interest in it, it might be an idea for them to make a secondary model that does include it
I bought a Genesis RAD2x cable just a few hours ago, I cant wait!!!
Really enjoyed the video. Many thanks for taking the time to do this.
With the 1chip SNES, it's not just pixels, the picture seems to have the correct gamma and much better colors.
Voultar has done side by sides on the 2 chip, and concluded the 1 chip's gamma is too high and bright. his 2 chip mod will probably be the definitive when it is released this year.
Great vid! I'm sticking with OSSC for my setup but if I didn't have one, this would be a really good option!
First time on your channel, you got a sub. Great in-depth research, thank you for your work.
Interesting to see how Nintendo differed the Multi-AV in different locations. And even more to see how the RAD2x handles this.. With every video you do about this tiny box, I'm more surprised by this little box. And Ireally apprechiate the konw-hor you're sharing.
Great job putting this video together Bob
Awesome video about the Rad2x. I like how it can auto select the signal source without user input. I wish the RetroTink 2x could do that (unless I'm mistaken).
Great video. Excellent sound design. Great commentary as well. Subscribed to you for sure. Keep up the good work!
Thank you!
I already own a Carby so I considered skipping the Gamecube section, but when I heard "Cover of Big Blue" playing I had to stay and watch the whole thing. Also great info for the N64 part, that's what I was waiting for!
Is there any point/need to go for a carby if I could get this and have it work w/my N64 and GC?
@@Tom-qo4mz Get the Carby, native 480p is worth the money even if you get the Rad 2x for your N64. It will only detect composite (from NTSC GameCubes) and do a flickery bob de-interlace, so a rock solid native 480p signal will look much better.
@@fluffisaurus7090 ty for reply bud but i ended up going full on oldskool n snabbed a 27in triniton crt B)
Awesome video! I am definitely going to get a RAD2x for my SNES!
After seeing how good the composite with smoothing looks on n64, I sold my Ultra HDMI modded unit. I prefer that look to the ultra sharp. Appreciate the time you put into this video. Great stuff.
I can't believed you did that
@@Ballowax People have different taste. I prefer Tim Worthington's RGB mod and the Ultra HDMI as they sharpen the pixel but I understand wanting that rounded yet flawed smoothing of S Video and Composite.
hi, can this rad2x used with s-video? I have an n64 with composite and with s-video cable. Want to play golden eye so badly and searching for the best solution with this rad2x. Can someone help me out?
@@nerdyneedsalife8315 oh that's fine but you know, the ultra HDMI is $300 and this man basically threw away his money
@@johnwhite8985 wanna try out the retro tinx 2X classic at castlemania games
Great video, very helpful & informative As are the majority of the comments.
I managed to put a pre order in for one of these yesterday as it suits my needs perfectly seeing as I have multiple Nintendo pal consoles and this cable is a one cable solution for the majority of them & is more cost effective for me.
For those interested they are up for pre order with a shipping date of September 2020.
Keep up the excellent work on your channel mate & you’ve just earned a new sub.
This is really great, well done!
Just here to echo some of the others - thanks for the PAL coverage!
Wow!!! Awesome review! Love it and thanks.
I see that vic rattlehead guitar... A man of culture indeed.
Great video, I feel I’m very lucky being in the UK and being able to run most of my consoles RGB via the SCART lead into my plasma. The image quality is so much better than composite.
Interestingly my PAL GameCube which is chipped and Swiss modded only as an multi AV out as they dropped the digital out in later models so again this device might benefit me for this console
Also I sold my PAL N64 and bought a Japanese NTSC N64 which is modded to run RGB via the Scart and I’m using an everdrive cart switched to NTSC mode. I feel this device might benefit the format I’m running N64 in.
I’ve toyed with the slightly cheaper hyperkin cable but this device seems for flexible.
I have one for my SNES and my modded N64 and they are f*ing awesome! I did the Hi-Def NES mod and DCHDMI Mod. I also bought a RAD2X for my Genesis 2 and world of difference.
you're so knowledgeable on all this :D thank you for these vids!
Thank you!
As always a great video. Thank you.
Such a great time for retro gaming with Retrotink, great cables makers, DCHDMI, GDEmu (yes I like the Dreamcast) and so on and so on.
Nintendo's official retro support for current gen is terrible. We all got to go back to the original consoles!!
Everyone loves the Dreamcast.
In the dystopian desert future we will be playing roms on modded Dreamcast and OG Xbox.
I’ll be king with my RGB modded N64 and Xeno modded GameCube though
I’m building a complete library of GameCube games on burned discs (and I think am partially responsible for the cost of these discs going up in the last year)
Was thinking of waiting for the ultrahdmi, but this and a rgb mod I think will bring my n64 on to my 4K. My crt will just be for vhs and light guns again. Glad I subscribed!
Ultra hdmi really just left to go get milk and never came back lol
So tempted to get this for my PAL Gamecube. Can’t seem to find a Carby. How does this compare to the Kaico? Great video. Keep it up.
I'd get a Prism...Kaico is a clone company, so please don't support them: bit.ly/retrobitprism
There's also a really cool brace available for the Prism: www.retrorgb.com/gcvideo-support-brace.html
@@RetroRGB oh I see! Awesome, thank you for letting me know! I will look at the Prism. That brace will be very useful too. Thanks again for the in-depth videos.
Thanks for watching!
Currently having trouble getting the links to work but I keep refreshing, the idea of this product sounds great for me since I'm looking for minimal fuss.
Looks like their site got the internet hug of death.
@@stimie By the time I could get in it showed being out of stock. Hopefully they'll get more soon.
Yeah I tried for like 2 hours straight and even had it in the cart before time had run out and still nothing...
@@CAPCOM784 Yeah they are all gone
I still love my retro tink 2x. He makes good quality stuff.
When looking at the site, this is apparently powered by retrotink. So, seeing as I have Svideo cables and retrotink 2, I still fit most of these consoles and get close to the quality.
MrDabrain75 to be honest, for 240p or 480i, s-video and component don’t look TOO different to me. Component has a bit more color depth in places sure, but unless you really want 480p from your GCN or PS2, s-video through a Tink pro is going to look really good.
Thanku im preordering this just for my N64!
Thank for another informative video!! Sorry if I missed it elsewhere in the comments, but would you recommend this over the HD Retrovision cables for SNES? Over Eon's N64 adaptor?
Rewatched the video and you had already answered my questions....all I had to do was listen. Thanks again!
thanks for the reply, I have my fingers crossed for Wednesday :)
Such an awesome product. Still really wish it supported S-Video.
Great timing!!
IMO the UltraHDMI mod looks the best but for a plug and play option this is pretty awesome. Good video!
This issue with the ultrahdmi mod is its never available and Marshall has been radio silent on the status of the 2nd hardware revision.
N64 composite + original blur + integrated AA + smoothing filter from RADX = myopic mode engaged !
Good video with good solutions 👍🏼 but i love my ossc for mega drive and SNES
you make good videos, dude
Thank you!
Excellent video as always. BTW did I miss the giveaway this week end ??
Nope, I launched the giveaway video at the same time as this one...because it's for RAD2x cables :)
damn that rust in peace flying V though!
I use the HD Retrovision wires on my SNES and RGB modded NES and N64 I also have GameCube component cables because I got lucky at GameStop 15 years ago. Would this be considered a better solution?
That power solution seen at around 3:28, is there any coverage of that? Really looking for a good power solution for all the 9V consoles which shouldn't need an own powersupply each
Great video dude, This is my first time on the channel! To get an RGB signal from my SNES (without using this), what do you think of using a regular SNES to Scart cable, and then Scart to HDMI? Are there any big issues with this?
Thank you! As long as you use something like a RetroTINK2x SCART or OSSC, that's a great option. Stay away from scalers designed for TV signals though:
www.retrorgb.com/upscalers.html
th-cam.com/video/ZUrqWN4AcJc/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/7VOsOuQ5mhM/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the advice!
Interesting....
Seems most nintendo consoles even up as far as the gamecube /wii did some really good composite video in general. The SNES mini via composite looks, to me, about 80% as good as the SNES mini via RGB. The N64... due to the super soft graphics in most games, I struggle to much a difference at all between a composite signal and RGB signal on that machine. I paused the video in several places to look at the Mario Kart 64 footage.... composite looks to me like it's 90-95 percent as good as the RGB signal.
The clear standout is the AV Famicom. The color pallet especially sees major improvement on the RGB modded version.
For the most part, I have no problem using standard, stock, composite display on the older nintendo consoles. The real offender is the sega genesis... that composite signal was HORRIBLE. Though, I can still enjoy the system on a modern flat panel TV (using some cheap junko AV cables) and my experience wasn't ruined at all by the "low quality" video. I could pretty easily enjoy the rad2x cable for genesis though.... worthy of the addition.
Hi.
Quick couple of questions. What would you recommend more... a rad2x or using a good quality scart into a scaler like a retrotink scart, 5x or ossc? I did own a ossc but it kept cutting out every few seconds. Timing issue? So own a rad2x now. Ive heard you say before that ossc's do have trouble out putting rgb with snes/sfc?
Anyway keep up the good work, great channel.
If you already have some good RGB SCART cables, a RetroTINK 5x will look amazing. I'm a big fan of the RAD2x's simplicity and the smoothing filter for N64 games, but the RT5x is definitely better. Honestly though, both work well, you don't have to worry about lag and the image is processed right...so use whatever's easiest overall :)
The NTSC Gamecube is why I play all of my Gamecube games on my Wii with an HDMI adapter. The RAD2x is fantastic for the other consoles though. I'm getting mine this week!
Yeah great. Been waiting for forever to buy this and today the website crapped out the second you could buy it for like a half hour and now they are all gone. Awesome
Its not even the overwhelming demand crashing the site that i take issue with. Its the fact that you literally could not checkout because either they didnt remove the asterisks on the listings or the drop down box was missing the "yes" option so you could even add the cables to your cart. This prevented me from even checking out despite being there on time.
@@ians_parks I stayed on it for 2 hours and saw later that on Twitter all were sold out already? Mine had been in the cart before the time even counted out so yeah I wasnt a happy camper🙁
CAPCOM784 same thing happen to me
Just got my rad2x cable for SNES and noticed while playing Super Mario World on the Cheese Bridge Area level the bottom section of my screen is scrambled. Didn’t notice it in any other games or levels thus far.
I am in the UK therefore am really lucky having RGB options via scart on most retro CRT and plasma TV’s. I bought a Japanese NTSC console a while back chipped to run RGB and an ED64 cart which allows me to run games in the correct NTSC format. I am still now happy with the image quality over scart. I assume the RAD2X will recognise my RGB output on my NTSC N64 and output this via my 4K TVs HDMI input? Hope this makes sense ?!
Actually, there is a difference in the composite video cables between PAL and NTSC regions, a resistor which in one case it's in the console (NTSC), in the other must be in the cable (PAL). If you mix them, video can be either too bright or too dark. On some televisions (even CRTs) is less noticeable than others.
Well, either way, this cable will work correctly with all regions.
@@RetroRGB I guess Mike Chi took that into account, as well as the different RGB circuit that is present in PAL SNESes, most of them but not all of them... what a mess.
This could be a good solution for my SNES (PAL) and maybe better as the framemeister for my N64 RBG (maybe less lag ?)
Wait, TH-cam has labeled chapters now on videos?! I love it!
Yup, just add timestamps and also add "00:00" as the first to activate it. Someone in the comments taught me that :)
i got this puppy in this week as well, i love how it makes the n64 look like a 2000s machine instead of a 90s one graphics wise, much less crude and much more playable. i would recommend anyone getting this device, go use a decent hdmi cable to complete teh circuit to your monitor or tv. i cheaped out on buying a cheap cable first and that gave me all sort of out of range / and sparkling green dots problems. but once i bought a 25 dollar ish cable that had high speed and ethernet function, all was well and the picture looks amazing.
Hey Marco, did you experience any lag in the game play ?
Perfect timing!
Ah Drakkon, may he live forever.
Of course he will, he must have about 37 inches of hot glue melted all over himself by now.
I'd agree a conventional Retrotink might be the best option for those unable or unwilling to mod an NTSC N64. For PAL Gamecube owners with digital ports, a Carby and Swiss to force 480p is a better solution than using SCART RGB or a RAD2x.
Can't wait to get my hands on one of these. Apparently, they're pretty popular- they're always out of stock.
From what I understand parts are currently hard to source and demand is still pretty high. Its best to follow RetroGamingCablesUK on twitter for updates on available stock.
Bob, would it be fair to say that your commendable focus on the importance of lag to retro gaming, is partly why you don’t seem to be overly fond of the Framemeister? Granted, I’m a recent subscriber and have yet to watch many of your videos. I have viewed Coury and Try quite a bit and they seem like advocates for the FMeister right along with some other solutions you do seem excited about, like Rad2x, Retrotink and OSSC. Maybe I’m reading you incorrectly? And if my hunch is correct, that’s totally a defensible position in my mind. Any insight would be welcome and keep up the great work. I subscribe to your channel because I am in search of precise and accurate information regarding the best solutions for retro gaming; isn’t that the point, after all?
Well, there's a few things. First and foremost, when it was released in 2011, I'd consider it nothing less than amazing. BUT, we now have solutions far cheaper, with no lag, so there's no reason to spend so much money on a device that no longer justifies it's high price tag. So, nothing but love and respect for what the Framemeister accomplished, but ever since the RetroTINK and OSSC have become available, I've felt it's time to move on.
...and oh boy, wait till you see what's coming out in 2021 :)
@@RetroRGB Thanks, that’s fair. Can’t wait to see what’s cookin for 2021, let’s get on with it!
This was very informative. So I have a Retrotink 2x pro with s video cables. I use them on my snes and n64. I am still not so satisfied with the picture on the n64. I was looking at the HD Retrovision component cables to use with the snes, but I know that n64 needs a rgb mod to use them. I am aware that the retrotink 2x does not support RGB, but the rad2x does, even though Mike Chi collaborated on the rad2x. So I guess what my question is would it be better in your opinion to get the hd retrovision snes cables and use with my retrotink, or go for the rad2x? I do plan on rgb modding my N64 because ut is compatible with the "simple" solution mod. It just looks SO bad on hdtvs, I need to do something. BTW that CARBY is so damn awesome for the gamecube. Metal Jesus sold me on that lol.
In my opinion RGB isn't a huge jump in quality from S-Video on the n64. Have you turned on the smoothing filter? That was by far the biggest "upgrade" for me.
As for RAD2x vs RetroTINK pro: It all depends on how many analog-outputting consoles you're trying to connect. If it's just a SNES and N64, the RAD2x is much cheaper and you can use it on both. If you have other consoles as well, getting one scaler and swapping cables for each is better. Just let your wallet decide that one :)
I agree 100% with your assessment. RAD2X (and the related RetroTink 2X) is the easiest way to get old Nintendo consoles on any HDTV, with zero lag and IMO, zero frustration.
I have one for testing/outside of my usual setup situations, and the ease of use (aside from the need for a mini-HDMI to HDMI cable). The "RGB detection" feature is the best thing about it.
Compare this to an OSSC... an unmodded SNES of any generation tends to be temperamental with anything other than 2X, due to its odd sync cycles. Yes, you can mod it to combat this, but that shouldn't be necessary IMO. With an OSSC I recommend some sort of transcoder to COMPONENT if you are not using component or SCART. A Koryuu or a RetroTink2X will work for this. THEN you will need some sort of intermediary to handle the off-spec line multiplier resolutions above 2X. I use a HDMI switcher that ended up being a "happy accident" in that regard.
Compared to the RetroTink and based products like the RAD2X.... it's very "super-user" oriented.
This, you can just plug right into a SNES or N64.
With the regular 2X, you can just plug an S-Video cable into it (or your existing composite cables), then HDMI into the TV and you're just done. Much easier.
I have a modded N64 for PAL Games with RGB Sync on Luma. Is this RGB compatibel with the Rad 2x HDMI Kabel?
Anyone had Jitter issues with their SNES consoles? I am having some bad issues on Mario World and Zelda, multiple consoles, multiple cables. Thinking I need to get the dejitter mod... Thoughts?
Hello, good video. Does the Rad2x cable allow 480p on gamecube like the gcplug? What the differences between the both?
It doesnt accept 480p as an input, only as an output resolution. So essentially itll be 480i bob deinterlaced to 480p. You wouldnt get progressive scan out of your gamecube using the rad2x like you would with a gcvideo adapter. I'd recommend getting a Carby or Prism adapter instead assuming your gamecube has the digital out port on that back. If not then a retrotink2x mini with a quality s-video cable would be the next best option.
i respectively disagree about n64 s-video. I upgraded my composite cable to a specific svideo cable for PAL. I use a Sony Trinitron sidescreen CRT....and the difference is huge. any text is much clearer and the edges of objects/polygons are more stable, have no crawl and the colours are deeper and more lush.
Apples & oranges: S-Video vs Composite on a CRT is a completely different scenario than scaling either signal on a 4K flat-panel.
fair enough! is there a technical reason why the cable could not interpret svideo signal from the n64 as default rather than composite/rgb. most n64s seem to have svideo
I am with you. I have the Purple Monster S Video cable and that on my CRT looks great. I do the same with my Snes with Hd Retrovision Component Cables.
@@RetroRGB so is composite or svideo better with the rad2x? And does the rad2x work with any pal n64 console out of the box?
@@johnwhite8985 The RAD2X works with any N64 console out of the box, regardless of region.
IS anyone using this with his/her SNES? I got mine a few days ago and I noticed a "humming" sound coming from the TV speakers when using the SNES. If I use the RAD2X with my Gamecube or N64, I don't get the humming sound at all.
I have an UltraHDMI-modded 64 I no longer use it because the mod broke after a couple of years of use. Too expensive to get a new UltraHDMI so I was super keen when RAD2X was announced. I preordered one when they first opened up and have had it for about 6 months now. My N64 has Tim Worthington's RGB mod and let me tell you it is freaking awesome with the RAD2X. It's not as razor sharp as UltraHDMI (that's so perfect it looks like you're running an emulator) but it gets like 80-90% of the way there and even with the RGB mod it was half the cost.
Frankly, even if you can't get your console RGB modded and just have to use composite, it doesn't matter. This dongle is only US$60, that's almost pocket money for most people. Just do it.
Thanks for sharing! I have Tim's RGB board installed as well and I have the rad2x on preorder at the moment. Do you have deblur enabled on your n64? I'm assuming it would give you similar if not identical results to ultrahdmi.
Hi Bob (@RetroRGB)! I recently modded my N64 with viletim's RGB mod and had two questions for you now that I've received a RAD2X today.
1) Is there any benefit to enabling de-blur through the RGB board when the RAD2X has a smoothing option?
2) Is it worth flashing the board with borti4938's N64RGB firmware to use the 15-bit mode together with the RAD2X?
Hello! Honestly, it's all preference. If you have time, try all combinations and see what you like best.
I couldn't get my Super Famicom to work with it. I haven't tried my N64 because I need a game but my NES Toploader works great and my Gamecube systems work as well. I just get rainbow stripes with the SFC.
I have been unable to get my N64 rad2x to work the Mclassic. Would anyone be able to provide me the connection setup with cables or and be able to confirm if they work together? Thanks!
Nice video
What is that power cable you used on the SNES Mini? I have been trying to find a less bulky alternative to the OEM Power supply
Check out FBX's thread here: shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=64006
What's your thoughts on the Kaico adapters? Are they actually good or just more crap upscalers like Pound and Hyperkin?
Kaico stole the RetroTINK2x and cloned it. They admitted to cloning it and also sell it under their other company's name, Bitfunx. They're low quality devices that don't last long...plus, if you buy one, you're essentially stealing from Mike. That company has cloned a few other products in the retro gaming scene too :(
Considering the pricing on some of the other HDMI solutions out there, £48 seems cheap by comparison.
Hey Bob. Great video, but I have a question. Is there any way to get that smoothing filter from the cables on the OSSC?
There's currently an alternate firmware floating around for the OSSC with HQ2x, but I never had time to test it. Maybe Markus will integrate it into the main firmware? If not, it'll definitely be in the OSSC Pro.
@@RetroRGB OK cheers. Don’t think I’ll be able to afford the Pro though. :(
Grandpa question: So, you put the RADx2 in the Multi-Out of the AV FAMICOM, plug the hdmi cable in the RAD2x and plug THAT cable in the television, right?
Correct.
I usually consider the N64's composite/s-video to be subpar compared to something like the PS1 and Saturn.
I would love to get the rad 2x for my N64. Too bad these are out of stock and they’re not taking pre orders.
You can get the rgb mod from voultur but hd retro vision component cables have to be pre ordered. I would then get the retro tink 2x to get the most out of the rbg mod and the hd retro vision component cables. The ultra hdmi mod is almost impossible to get and fetch a high price on eBay. I just can’t win with my favorite system.
Do you have recommendations on Mini HDMI to HDMI cables/adapters? Their current stock is sold out and I'm seeing mixed reviews on a bunch of other m-HDMI to HDMI.
EDIT: To clarify, I am looking to stream N64 with HDMI without breaking the bank too hard/modding my N64. Was considering the RetroTink until I saw the RAD2X videos.
The RAD2x is perfect for streaming. Also, since the resolution is only 480p, pretty much any MiniHDMI to HDMI adapter will work perfect. I'd just get the cheapest one from Amazon.
@@RetroRGB thank you for the quick reply! I shall do that then!
I recently bought a Rad2 and love it for the SNES and N64. However, I have noticed a few "issues" with it and I watched the video about adding the RGB mod to the N64 and will probably need to do that to mine soon. So, in some SNES games, in certain levels in DKC1, like the Mine Cart levels, the shadows and overall darkness of the levels are quite dark. It's like almost the contrast is too high. But then once I leave the level, you can see the Rad2x automatically get brighter again. What gives? And then the N64, playign Ocarina of Time, it wasn't as sharp as I thought it would be and I think I will need to do that RGB mod. Or, seein how I play the NES, SNES, and N64 "regularly", should I invest and get the RetroTink 4k (for $750) and have a one-device for all retro systems?
I mean, that’s totally up to your budget. The RT4K is a far superior product…at a much higher price. You could get the RT5x instead to save money. But either plus some good analog cables would be a great option for multiple consoles.
Hey Bob! I hope this comment reaches you, but I did have a question on where I could go from here to improve the quality of my Nintendo 64 setup. I have a chain of quality S-Video cables > RetroTink 2x > mClassic > 4K TV. (I run multiple consoles)
Since UltraHDMI is non-existent right now, is there any benefit to pursuing RGB or anything else in my chain to improve the quality? I know I've heard you mention that the jump from S-Video to RGB is not as prominent as Composite to S-Video, so I wasn't sure if there were any ideas that could make things a little better either in the chain or just holding out for UltraHDMI.
Your expertise is greatly appreciated!
My personal opinion: What you have is awesome and you should leave it as-is for now. While you will get a jump in performance doing an RGB mod and using some HD Retrovision cables into the TINK2x, I think you might want to wait for an eventual UltraHDMI installation, as that will be a bigger jump. Just my opinion though!
@@RetroRGB Thank you so much for your reply! Hopefully Ultra HDMI makes its way back around soon! It's at the top of my wishlist!
I respectfully disagree about the N64 composite and s-video quality difference. Playing on a crt N64 composite is a lot duller and the lower sharpness makes the N64 draw distance appear that much foggier.
I have a us Nintendo 64 with the Nintendo av composite cables should I get the rad 2x or the retro tink??
They're the same thing. If you're only connecting the N64, just get the RAD2x since it's easier. If you're connecting multiple consoles, maybe get the TINK?
So in my game room I’m getting a Sony x900h tv, I want to connect my NES, SNES, N64, and PS1 to it and have them readily available to play.. I’m guessing I’ll need a couple of these Rad2x and maybe a Retrotink and then I’ll have to run them to a input switch correct? If run them to a switch will the quality drop?
Correction: You'd either need a few RAD2x cables OR a RetroTINK, not both. If you'd like, you could just use the cables your consoles came with and get a RetroTINK 2x Mini. You could also try getting the 2x Pro and eventually updating the SNES and PS1 to Component cables. It's really whatever's easiest for your setup.
It sucks I was trying to get these cable for sega saturn and the site kept crashing or saying it suspended finally sometime later it said they were sold out and now its not even listed does anyone know if its worth getting Sega Saturn Component YPbPr cables?
I dont believe the saturn cables were ever even in stock to begin with. I was there when the preorders started and when the site was fixed. At no point were the asterisks gone, you couldnt check out if they were in your cart.
@@ians_parks yeah man that sucks the site was all messed up for like a hour and once it was running well the saturn cables out of stock all of suddenly
@@ians_parks update as of right now its in stock and I just placed my order
@@TransKingFormers In stock? Or did you just place a preorder? Because retro gaming cables opened up preorders for the next batch of cables. Not for what they currently have.
@@ians_parks yeah when I saw stock I thought it was a instant purchase and yes it is a pre order that I did
Are there any drawbacks to using the RAD2x to hdmi as opposed to rgb to a scart converter to hdmi? I know the latter can result in a small loss in image quality.
As long as you use the right SCART to HDMI converter those are great too. Just don't use that terrible one: www.retrorgb.com/upscalers.html
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So sad, I wish I had one, but currently it’s out of stock. Does anyone know, in which time periods they get produced?
Im planning on buying this and add to it the mclassic and the gaming mcable, would this give me the ultimate, snes, wii, ps3 and n64 image possible on 1080p and 4K tv's?
If you're looking for the "ultimate" setup, check out the RetroTINK 5x: th-cam.com/video/nwNrqIjxBaA/w-d-xo.html
@@RetroRGB would you say the image from the retrotink 5x is better on snes and n64 than the rad2x? I would also add an mclassic and mcable to either of them since those I already got.
I'm a bit of both camps with HDMI signal. For NES and SNES I prefer the pure unaltered digital data (Using a Hi-Def NES mod on my NES console and a Raspberry Pi as a dedicated SNES emulator), but for the N64 I love what I've seen from combing an EON Super 64 and an mClassic. Granted yes they alter the signal, but damn it just looks so pretty.
Me here again, ghost bar on snes the rad2x fix it?
I bought a RAD2x for my NTSC SNES, but whenever the colors displayed are too bright or mostly white, it loses the signal. For example, that happens in Kirby's Dream Land 3 opening, title screen and pause menu. Also in some levels in Yoshi's Island. Could this be a faulty unit or is it just my SNES?
I've heard a few reports of that happening, but I've never been able to re-create it. Sorry I can't be more help.
I would LOVE to have a S-Video compatible version of this just for the GameCube, I have one of the console without the Digital output and I just want to be able to capture it with a semi-decent quality. I guess I could also buy a Wii and use its Component output with a converter or a Wii2HDMI, that would probably be cheaper, or even hack my Wii U to play GC games, but... bleh, playing GC games on a Wii feels weird and I would prefer to use the original console.
been looking at another S-video multi-out for my setup...just tired of switch between SNES, N64, and NGC
would any on eBay be considered shielded?
Most likely not. Check the links in the description.
One thing that was mentioned was pal and ntsc switching. I thought that wasnt an issue through hdmi. Do modern tvs still have that issue? Sorry for the simplistic question Im just not sure how to word it.
No, that's a good question. Some modern NTSC TV's I tested just don't like PAL signals, while others work fine. The RAD2x passes through whatever it receives though and is compatible with both.
I have two questions:
1) The 1CHIP in the comparisons looks darker than the original system. Is the 1CHIP not supposed to look brighter?
2) Does the RAD2x send the HDMI signal at 60.098 Hz for the SNES, or does it change the framerate (and drop frames to compensate)?
Thanks!
Great questions! This answers the first: SNES Video Output Explained
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…and the RAD2x/RetroTINK 2x line of products are line doublers that don’t change the frequency. Compatibility is still high though, as displays tend to be a lot more forgiving with 480p signals.
@@RetroRGB Thank you. I'll make sure to watch the video.
Without framedrops, the 2x's sound incredibly useful to capture real hardware footage with. If hooked up to something else that respects the framerate.
I sure hope they become available again on their site. As right now you cant select region to order one.
I know right, wtf is up with the drop down box?
You can preorder now for a chance to essentially save your place in line when the next batch arrives.
My Rad2x is just displaying RGB bars on both my N64 systems. One is a non modded N64 and the other is a Jungle Green with Tim Worthington N64RGB mod. Any help on my issues?
Sounds like it might have an issue. Contact Retro Gaming Cables and see what they say.
Does the device support pal-60?
So would this be plug and play for both PAL Snes and Super Famicom on a PAL TV? I got the hd retrovision component cable recently, but 50Hz games just flickered on and off and 60hz wouldn't actually display anything.
Yes, but remember it doesn't convert the signal, so it you feed it NTSC, it'll output NTSC and vice versa. As long as your TV is compatible it'll work.
@@RetroRGB Well it works through composite, so I'm assuming it is. It's a 4k TV :)
Thanks for the reply.
Did you try the Nintendo RAD2X on The NTSC Region Gamecube GBA player? Just wondering if it works and is not terrible
Yup, works fine. It's composite video, so it's not as clear as the RGB output from the PAL version, but it'll definitely work and be zero lag. If your GC has a digital port, definitely look into a Carby instead though. Links should be in the description.
@RetroRGB Can you guys make a comparison between the retro tink and the RAD 2X because I don’t know which one to get. Or at least which one should I get?
They're identical in quality: Both were designed by the same person and use the same chips. Get whichever fits your needs the best.
RetroRGB thanks 😊 🙏