Harbor Freight Bauer & Hercules Cut Off Tools Vs The Competition

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  • @nareshangelia-sookrajjr.1365
    @nareshangelia-sookrajjr.1365 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’m running the Hercules at my job with the 4ah. It’s pretty much a requirement if you are cutting thick materials like Grade 8 bolts and Steel. For the price I paid I would say not bad. I definitely am shocked by that DeWalt though. But then again a 12v tool vs a 20v Powerstack.

  • @ryancasey4807
    @ryancasey4807 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great vid, little tip tho, you always want the material you are cutting to be behind the arbor on a rotary tool so it isn't "pushing" through the material but is rather "pulling". You want the tool to try and sort of pull you through rather than keep trying to jump away, just like on a chop saw, table saw, and circular saw. This will dramatically reduce stalling. I like the DeWalt for it's preformance but at that size I find a 4.5" grinder more useful. The stand out for me was the bosch, it's high preformance enough that it's useful but given that it's so small it makes it a tool that actually fits the category... Plus being German made and bosch, I can atest that like most of its other brushed older German tools they have made, it will be in service for at least a decade with no issues. When bosch releases a brushless model I think it could really shake up the category even more.

    • @cdee6096
      @cdee6096 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the coaching on the position of the blade. I always pushed through and will definitely change that to pull through.

    • @ryancasey4807
      @ryancasey4807 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cdee6096 no problem, when you are cutting sheet metal it's always better to score your cut over and over again as well rather than feed it through like a circular saw. Check out fireball tools video on the topic, it had data in it and is excellent visual representation of what I'm talking about

  • @jrummy73
    @jrummy73 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That Hercules with the HO battery was impressive at that price point. Plus a 5 year warranty with a store front exchange... Sweet

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep most of the Hercules 12v tools perform well for the money, you just need to run that 4ah.

    • @donovanb.4565
      @donovanb.4565 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      HF even tells you to use 4ah batteries with these tools. Definitely nice to have

  • @aaronporter2180
    @aaronporter2180 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm pretty impressed with that Bosch considering it has been out the longest and is the smallest

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep I really wish Bosch offered it sooner in the US.

  • @justauser
    @justauser 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The M12 is competing with 18V tools, its definitely impressive in that regard. I like it because its so small, one handed use is a given. They can improve it by giving it more torque and thus a lower RPM and a holder of course

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah I'm hoping we see a gen 2 in 2025!

  • @davidyoung1610
    @davidyoung1610 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The DeWalt is a beast. I used it with a 3” sawed blade to trim 3/4” (actual) fence planks. Its cutting depth of 0.9” is significantly deeper than the rest of the field. With the dust shroud in place, it’s practically a mini circular saw, although I wish that attachment was more straightedge-friendly.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah its awesome, I find my self wishing I could add an additional handle at times lol. I agree on the attachment, wish they did a little better.

  • @ThePainkiller3666
    @ThePainkiller3666 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    To be fair, on the hercules box it says to use 4ah battery(recommended), also it's only single direction.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah its funny how they show it with the 2ah, defiantly a big difference.
      Thanks for catching that were I said dual direction, I will edit that out.

  • @juanc5149
    @juanc5149 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I believe the Ridgid is capable of solid performance with the higher amp batteries. Close but not quite to the Dewalt.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep, I hope to test that when the dyno is done, It will be interesting to see. I also would like to get my hands on some NOS octan battery's with 21700s.

  • @1k3nts09
    @1k3nts09 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think putting the name of every tool brand your testing (like project farm) might help you reach some more viewers. Just a thought, as always great job!

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I might try that again, originally I did. Vidiq looked at my channel and said I shouldn't list all the brands in the title lol.
      Thanks!

  • @rickflare6736
    @rickflare6736 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Very good video! I have the Dewalt on order, and I will match it with a 5AH Battery.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! Nice its a beast, you will be shocked. IMO it almost needs a second handle lol.

    • @rickflare6736
      @rickflare6736 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Tools-Tested 😎👍🇺🇸

  • @Xpid07
    @Xpid07 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you can get your hands on the makita. Do test that too. But I think its not available yet in North America

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      Should see it soon, mine shipped today from ACME acmetools.pxf.io/MmoYvK

  • @hustleeveryday6582
    @hustleeveryday6582 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    With Bauer the 3ah will actually do better than the 5ah. The 3ah battery is made with 21700 batteries where the 5ah is made with 18650 batteries. The 5ah will give you longer run time but the 3ah will give you more bang for your buck. I believe Hercules does the same thing, but it's good to know because if you need a quick burst the 3ah is cheaper and gives you more power in that split second.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting I actually found the performance better with the 5AH. Im working on retesting them now on my dyno so it will be interesting to see, I also now have the 8ah.

  • @108doublestitches
    @108doublestitches 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Are the battery powered all better than a $40-$70 corded cutoff tool?

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, corded is probably better than the 12v, but its hard to say with the 20v's without testing the corded.

  • @marcelosilva8021
    @marcelosilva8021 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How are you not blowing up with viewers?

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wish I knew lol! I'm not the best I know, but I think the content is getting better.

  • @darrenporsch
    @darrenporsch ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Does the Ridgid do better with a 4ah battery or do you have an octane 3ah battery because that has 21700 cells in it and it seems to wake up a lot of their tools.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hard to say, I had to sell the ridgid after I made the original video about a year ago.
      I would say the 21700 cells might be a little stronger.
      Hoping to have a dyno built for small high speed tools like this. But thats going to be a few months. I will buy the ridgid again once its done.

    • @darrenporsch
      @darrenporsch ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tools-Tested It's on sale now for $99

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@darrenporsch hmm it’s tempting. I really need to spend the money on the dyno first.
      Hopefully it will still be on sale in a few months, after a few more pay checks.
      Thanks for the info!

    • @darrenporsch
      @darrenporsch ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Tools-Tested Yeah I get it I spend a little too much on tools sometimes

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darrenporsch yeah it can get out of control fast lol

  • @hisremnant
    @hisremnant ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you. Almost bought Bauer since I'm a petite woman....doesn't seem like a good idea beyond just cutting PVC pipes.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      No problem! Yeah it’s not the greatest. The Dewalt is awesome, but really depends on what platforms you run.

  • @Nicky14P
    @Nicky14P ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hyper tough (from Walmart) recently came out with a 12v cut off tool. Would be interesting to see how it stacks up to the Harbor Freight offerings. I’m sure it would need to run on the 4ah battery just like the Hercules and Bauer too.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I ordered it & 4ah so it should show up this week, Im curious to see how it performs.

  • @Vicus_of_Utrecht
    @Vicus_of_Utrecht ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hmm going to have to look at Ridgid's current cut saw. Every stat you showed differs from mine (I know the 2021 RPM downgraded from the 2019 but it's still 19,000 rpm). Even the cutting depth is off here?

  • @cdee6096
    @cdee6096 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Given the dramatic increase in cost, size and weight for using the big Dewalt battery- I would move to my 18v tool before using the 12v. I use 12v for all quick things. 18v for bigger projects. I have the 12 v and 18 volt Bosch cut offs and they are excellent. I didn’t catch it but I am assuming you compared 12v to 12v tools and not 12v to 18v tools.

    • @Vicus_of_Utrecht
      @Vicus_of_Utrecht ปีที่แล้ว

      18v to 18/20v

    • @cdee6096
      @cdee6096 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Vicus_of_Utrecht That Bosch was a 12v.

    • @Vicus_of_Utrecht
      @Vicus_of_Utrecht ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cdee6096 corrected. Still Bosches fault lol

    • @elliotkane4443
      @elliotkane4443 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just use the powerstack battery 1.7 or 5, easy.

  • @foxwood67
    @foxwood67 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I was on dewalt platform I definitely would pick this up. I’m not going to get the Milwaukee as this one seems lame. Maybe a gen 2 someday.
    Keep ‘ em coming. 👍

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah would love to see a Gen2 or even a m18 version.

  • @flatplanecrank
    @flatplanecrank ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video, cant wait for the Makita.

  • @__aceofspades
    @__aceofspades ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Hercules has awful performance with the freebie battery, maybe it would be fine for very light weight work though. However with the 4Ah battery it becomes very feasible, and that battery upgrade is a very affordable $35. While it still is nowhere as good as the DeWalt, its half the price fully loaded vs the DeWalt without battery. $85 total vs $180 + battery. This channel is probably more oriented towards professional usage, but as an average consumer the Hercules is the obvious choice.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah I agree for the price, with the 4ah battery its a great option. So is the 12v drill, just throw away that 2ah lol.

  • @IIHawkGamingII
    @IIHawkGamingII ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't fathom why they used the 12v battery for the Hercules when their 20v batteries are way larger in capacity and higher voltage

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was shocked by that as well, heard Hercules was coming out with one and I assumed it was 20v not 12v kinda a letdown.

  • @ex8280
    @ex8280 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm just thinking, man the worst of the worst is still better than doing it with a hand saw. There was a point in my lifetime where we had to use the blade of a hand saw to cut them rebar.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, o the hacksaw days... I don't miss them.

  • @larryhilmes3360
    @larryhilmes3360 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a hercules and it stalls alot. I don't think it would cut butter.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, to get anything out of it you have to use the 4ah.

  • @ccbowers
    @ccbowers ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:45 Having higher Ah battery data for Ridgid and Ryobi would be great. I know they wouldn't really challenge the Dewalt here, but curious to see how close the closest 2 contenders are in performance. I have the no-longer-made 3Ah Ryobi battery with 21700 cells, and that would be a good pairing for that tool because of decent output and still small size. Too bad Ryobi abandoned 21700 cells in their 18V platform

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep, I have a NOS 3ah with 21700, Its crazy they stoped making them. Once the dyno is built, I will buy the ridgid and ryobi again so we can see.
      It's crazy how much the battery pack can matter.

    • @boosted2.4_sky
      @boosted2.4_sky ปีที่แล้ว +2

      On other channels I have seen the Ridgid dominate all of these...

    • @2down4up
      @2down4up ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tools-Tested I was gonna ask for this same test so plus one from me! I personally have the Ryobi and while it’s no Dewalt I have been quite impressed with it using 4AH HP batteries.

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@2down4up yeah hopefully in a few months we will see on the dyno.

    • @Vicus_of_Utrecht
      @Vicus_of_Utrecht ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boosted2.4_sky Same. Torque Test Review comes to mind (sorry you other channels I just don't recall).

  • @rayskee77
    @rayskee77 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Milwaukee for life😊

  • @GooLGaming
    @GooLGaming ปีที่แล้ว

    you used the smallest batteries for the hercules & bauer.. use the new 12ah and the 8ah max performance batteries....... DOESNT FAIL AT ALL!!!

  • @waynewicks5349
    @waynewicks5349 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Try the batteries from Hercules much better

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว

      I will have to get an adapter and try that!

  • @nickabel8279
    @nickabel8279 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just don't get the point of these tools. Any thing I would cut it would just grab for my grinder...

    • @Tools-Tested
      @Tools-Tested  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mostly for tight area's and tile work. But yeah normally an angle grinder works in most cases.

  • @pg13ish93
    @pg13ish93 ปีที่แล้ว

    This test isn’t fair at all 😂😂😂

  • @swimfan6292
    @swimfan6292 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't mean to be that guy, but you spelled competitor wrong.. in your title.. sorry. Personally I'm all for freedom to spell how u wanna. But... Just saying. Carry-on!

  • @jewtubetruckers
    @jewtubetruckers 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What do you want for 50 bucks this test is a joke 😅😂😅😂😅

  • @Steve0885
    @Steve0885 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not many people will be cutting rebar

    • @bighoss4189
      @bighoss4189 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What should he cut then? A tomato?

    • @Steve0885
      @Steve0885 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@bighoss4189 your mommy

    • @Vicus_of_Utrecht
      @Vicus_of_Utrecht ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bighoss4189 no no no havarti cheese!

    • @marcc482
      @marcc482 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL... I have this Bosch 12V (along with a drill/driver, a driver and an impact - all very small / compact and light) ... I never cut rebar or anything like that ... I work in the medical equipment field: need it for its small footprint and light weight... I also just got a Hercules a short while ago but use it with the 4Ah battery for metal and 2Ah for plastics and other light stuff (it works well and is quite ergonomic in the hand... and was inexpensive $50 with 5yr warranty)

    • @bighoss4189
      @bighoss4189 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marcc482 i think rebar is a good measurement for speed, but obviously most people won’t be cutting it