A family friend of ours was part of Liverpool (NY) PD and told me that what they derived from the investigation was that the 'assailants' were likely from Fort Drum Army base (about 1 hour north of the club). Shawn was highly inebriated and what they had heard was he grabbed some woman at the club inappropriately and the boyfriend wanted to kick Shawn's ass. The wrestlers tried to hightail it out of there and the boyfriend saw Shawn in the car and dragged him out and beat the shit out of him by himself. The other 'assailants' were there to make sure the other wrestlers didn't step in. Essentially he didn't get beat up by 9 marines. He got beat up by 1 army soldier.
Yeah, that's pretty much the consensus now. By all accounts, Davy Boy couldn't be the equalizer because he couldn't get out of the back seat of the two-door car.
@@Tim85-y2qlol Davey Boy probably didn't want to defend Shawn considering Shawn was drunk and completely out of line trying to grab a woman that he had no business grabbing
It goes marine, then it goes to regular guy you don't want to fuck with. He gave him several Somas, Davey boy said fuck it and Waltman ran away. Davey boy didn't want to fuck with this guy.
@@My19812011 well the only time he’s even gotten one up on anyone was when he had the Midnight Express with him. But yeah he probably wouldn’t hold his own except I’d love to see him and Russo have a go.
I've heard from people at the scene that the fight was one on one and the others just stood and watched to make sure Davey or the others didn't jump in. Shawn couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag.
One guy beat him up. And he didn’t drop the belt clean to dean Douglas. Douglas even said before the ppv that michales showed up with his face unscathed then had makeup during his relinquishment.
I have gotten to meet the Harris brothers and talk to them for a while, they are indeed very nice guys. And you get them talking about Smokey Mountain wrestling, they can talk for hours with smiles on their face.
When this went down the report was hbk was trying to hook up with either the waitress or bartender, the service men were there and that was one of their girlfriends. Trash talk happened when the military guys started saying how fake wrestling is . Who knows what was said in return. When they were outside the guys blocked Davey Boy from leaving the car while HBK was jumped.
Bret called Shawn out about this incident right in the middle of accepting an award at the 1996 slammys. 🤭🤯 The reactions they had for each other and the tension during that moment...
@@BIGGIEDEVIL At what moment? I rewatched the Slammys a couple of weeks ago. I remember Shawn flirting with Sunny, but don't remember the actual "Sunny Days" comment until a promo on Raw in 97.
That's a naive attitude. Wrestling is entertainment. It's not meant to be taken as a literal sport. If it were, guys like Haku, Ken Shamrock and Steve Blackman would be beating up Austin, Rock and Undertaker every week.
I'm sure it happened, it's part of a police report, whatever details may or may not be true is another thing. I'd bet it's safe to say though that knowing what Shawn Michaels was like back then, as someone who almost got his ass handed to him on more than one occasion because of his bs and attitude (to steal a phrase) probably got what was coming to him, and I'm sure that the boys in the locker room weren't very surprised at all!
If Shawn would have done it right it would have elevated him even more as a great worker. But his immaturity instead, made him infamous as a cry baby who pulls stunts to show his displeasure in having to job. I heard only one guy kicked Shawn's ass.
@@gopherstate777 Good point. I can see why of all the members in the Kliq, Undertaker respected HHH most (before Shawn found God at least). HHH not only put Hogan over but dropped the world title also to him- right when he had all this strong babyface momentum following his big return after the injury. Versus "born again Shawn" in 05...still had an HBK 97 on display.
LOL, Quote- "In the police report largely derived told from Waltman." Meanwhile, Waltman the guy who was under the car checking the muffler by what Davey boy said or as Marty Janetty referred to as rolling his hands with tape. I searched the internet for this whole thing, and it told some things that were not discussed in the video because they did not know.
I believe there was a fight, but, while I never condone any sort of violence, I believe Hikenbottom brought it all upon himself. Also, didn't Hickenbottom have make up applied to make him appear worse? Didn't he furthermore suffer a "relapse" when he was due to do a "job" for somebody? None of us were there, so we'll never know, but there was definitely a few "fishy" things that happened around that time...
Kinda sounds like Dave Boy n The Kid didn’t have the balls to help Shawn out, one vs ten I give credit to Shawn for sticking up for their driver, he had balls to confront the fools, kid n Dave’s boy probably locked their doors scared, too bad Kevin and Scott weren’t there to help Shawn out!
Bret Hart: Those nine cheerleaders kicked his ass good.
Nine cheerleaders, ten marines, and a corporal from the 10th Mountain Division. lol
Bret said cheerleaders in a promo
A family friend of ours was part of Liverpool (NY) PD and told me that what they derived from the investigation was that the 'assailants' were likely from Fort Drum Army base (about 1 hour north of the club). Shawn was highly inebriated and what they had heard was he grabbed some woman at the club inappropriately and the boyfriend wanted to kick Shawn's ass. The wrestlers tried to hightail it out of there and the boyfriend saw Shawn in the car and dragged him out and beat the shit out of him by himself. The other 'assailants' were there to make sure the other wrestlers didn't step in.
Essentially he didn't get beat up by 9 marines. He got beat up by 1 army soldier.
Yeah, that's pretty much the consensus now. By all accounts, Davy Boy couldn't be the equalizer because he couldn't get out of the back seat of the two-door car.
@@Tim85-y2qlol Davey Boy probably didn't want to defend Shawn considering Shawn was drunk and completely out of line trying to grab a woman that he had no business grabbing
@@nzelver559Davey was probably fucked up on drugs himself and I’m sure he could’ve cared less about Shawn
It goes marine, then it goes to regular guy you don't want to fuck with. He gave him several Somas, Davey boy said fuck it and Waltman ran away. Davey boy didn't want to fuck with this guy.
Jim Cornette said something like “Shawn is 0 for life in real fights” 😂😂😂
I think Cornette’s record is very similar though 😂😂😂
@@My19812011 well the only time he’s even gotten one up on anyone was when he had the Midnight Express with him. But yeah he probably wouldn’t hold his own except I’d love to see him and Russo have a go.
@@jasonkraatz5968 I think Cornette would internally combust from pure rage if he ever fought Russo so he’d even end up losing that too 😂😂😂
@@My19812011 I can see that happening. He would probably have a heart attack or his head would explode 😂 😂
@@My19812011 Corny went over at Dairy Queen
Shawn was a pos back then he can claim he was the 1st diva of wwf
BRUAH nailed it ahahahaha!🤣😂🤣😂🤣
This makes it sound like Davey Boy and Shawn were buddies, but you always hear how Shawn refused to put Davey Boy over.
I've heard from people at the scene that the fight was one on one and the others just stood and watched to make sure Davey or the others didn't jump in. Shawn couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag.
These wrestlers need to remember there's some big tough fuckers outside the sport,and they fight for real
Especially Marines.
I always wonder if the Marines are out there and they're wrestling fans like us.. hearing this story over and over haha.
I think they were, one said he wanted to kick his ass from one of the court reports say...probably the one he tried to steal his girl from.
@@American-Zero Yeah, I just saw a newspaper that said Shawn took them to court. I didn't know that.
Green Beret
@@igorivanov299 if that’s true, that makes the story tooooootally different. If it was SF, Shawn is lucky to be alive lol
@@igorivanov299 green beret is army
I know a guy who knows a guy who used to drive a truck that lots of stuff fell off off once. True story
One guy beat him up. And he didn’t drop the belt clean to dean Douglas. Douglas even said before the ppv that michales showed up with his face unscathed then had makeup during his relinquishment.
Not surprised, Shawn wasnt a tough guy..
I have gotten to meet the Harris brothers and talk to them for a while, they are indeed very nice guys. And you get them talking about Smokey Mountain wrestling, they can talk for hours with smiles on their face.
Cornette had me dying when he once said how S. Michaels lost his smile, and said maybe he wasn't bending over correctly in front of Vince lol!🤦♂️😂
Pretty sure that was Honky Tonk Man but still funny 😂
I met HBK a few months before this happened.Nice guy but he believed his gimmick that he was God's gift to women.
I always heard that usually Nash was with them when they went to bars and nobody messed with them because of Diesel. He wasn’t with them that night.
Or Scott Hall
You were 14 in 1995?!?! Good lord, Conrad, you’re making me feel even older.
He’s 40 but he sounds like he’s going on 60!
i was 2.
I wasn’t even born LOL
I was born in 1995. Didn’t start watching wrestling till 2003.
I feel old now 😂 I was around 16 17. I started watching wrestling about '86 I think.
When this went down the report was hbk was trying to hook up with either the waitress or bartender, the service men were there and that was one of their girlfriends. Trash talk happened when the military guys started saying how fake wrestling is . Who knows what was said in return. When they were outside the guys blocked Davey Boy from leaving the car while HBK was jumped.
Bret called Shawn out about this incident right in the middle of accepting an award at the 1996 slammys. 🤭🤯 The reactions they had for each other and the tension during that moment...
It was due to Shawn's sunny days comment Shawn made before this award was presented
@@BIGGIEDEVIL At what moment? I rewatched the Slammys a couple of weeks ago. I remember Shawn flirting with Sunny, but don't remember the actual "Sunny Days" comment until a promo on Raw in 97.
@@Speedyreedy1218 yes on the raw before the slammly event
@@BIGGIEDEVIL I hope someone shoots me the link on YT. I swear I don't remember the comment until after, not before.
@@BIGGIEDEVIL the sunny days comment happened year after the Slammys
I worked with a friend of one of the 3 Marines (Two of them just stood there) and he said his friend kept one of Michael's earrings as a souvenir.
So Shawn wasn't outnumbered like the claims. It happens. People get beat up
Everyone thinks it would have taken ten jarheads to beat his ass, shit the dudes girl could have peeled his shit lmao
Shawn exposed the business everytime he went over, he was more Ricky Morton than Sid Vicious
That's a naive attitude. Wrestling is entertainment. It's not meant to be taken as a literal sport. If it were, guys like Haku, Ken Shamrock and Steve Blackman would be beating up Austin, Rock and Undertaker every week.
Cuse!!!! Ponderosa plaza and club 37 no longer there.
Club 37 was the sh$t!!!!
I just watched a video he got his ass kicked in Chicago and this is the bs they come up with.
Wow, Conrad seems so much older than he really is.
Did he say 39???
So he was 14 in 1995... meaning he was born 1980
@@nostalgiaman6816 1981.
I thought he was in his late 40s/early 50s.
Yup he 39
@@jermainemartinez551 He looks and sounds so much older though.
I'm sure it happened, it's part of a police report, whatever details may or may not be true is another thing. I'd bet it's safe to say though that knowing what Shawn Michaels was like back then, as someone who almost got his ass handed to him on more than one occasion because of his bs and attitude (to steal a phrase) probably got what was coming to him, and I'm sure that the boys in the locker room weren't very surprised at all!
Still amazed to this day the Shawn let Hogan go over on him.
What does that have to do with anything here?
Vince gave Shawn an Olive Garden giftcard and a 🐝-J to let Hogan go over.
If Shawn would have done it right it would have elevated him even more as a great worker. But his immaturity instead, made him infamous as a cry baby who pulls stunts to show his displeasure in having to job.
I heard only one guy kicked Shawn's ass.
@@D2Kprime Nothing really. Just mentioning it.
@@gopherstate777 Good point. I can see why of all the members in the Kliq, Undertaker respected HHH most (before Shawn found God at least).
HHH not only put Hogan over but dropped the world title also to him- right when he had all this strong babyface momentum following his big return after the injury. Versus "born again Shawn" in 05...still had an HBK 97 on display.
Mean Jean's account sounds more accurate than the Story about 'nine marines'. Nine 'cheerleaders' is probably closer to the the truth, to be honest
Mean Gene is probably how it's spelled and regardless Shawn provoked these guys by groping their woman while being wasted so he wasn't very brighr
Shawn stupidly mouthed off at Tomasz Kucharzewski a Polish Karate & Kick-boxing champion.😂
LOL, Quote- "In the police report largely derived told from Waltman."
Meanwhile, Waltman the guy who was under the car checking the muffler by what Davey boy said or as Marty Janetty referred to as rolling his hands with tape.
I searched the internet for this whole thing, and it told some things that were not discussed in the video because they did not know.
This is the only time I felt bad for HBK
Either way ya wanna slice and dice it..Shawn got his ass kicked.
A heavy dose of reality check rained down on him that night.
It wasn’t a marine. He was US Army from Fort Drum NY
Green Beret
It was Tomasz Kucharzewski who kicked his ass.
Billionaire Ted was a few months after this, not before.
I think it started in January..the Raw Bowl.
Didn't he lose his smile afterwards? Or sold it for pills I should say???
Shawn should have been fired
Can’t “fire” an independent contractor
Pretty tough to beat up a guy passed out in the car lol
Facts
But he was still lucid enough to assault a girl and be a total douche
Word
I believe there was a fight, but, while I never condone any sort of violence, I believe Hikenbottom brought it all upon himself.
Also, didn't Hickenbottom have make up applied to make him appear worse?
Didn't he furthermore suffer a "relapse" when he was due to do a "job" for somebody?
None of us were there, so we'll never know, but there was definitely a few "fishy" things that happened around that time...
You’re so cool calling him by his real name 🙄
@@tharealest8190 😎
Everyone reading this is a mark.
IT'S STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT!!!
Sasha banks read that
So are the people listening because they wanna hear more stories.
Kinda sounds like Dave Boy n The Kid didn’t have the balls to help Shawn out, one vs ten I give credit to Shawn for sticking up for their driver, he had balls to confront the fools, kid n Dave’s boy probably locked their doors scared, too bad Kevin and Scott weren’t there to help Shawn out!
LOL, you think there were actually ten guys? Obviously that was a lie to try and save some face.
Shawn just got his ass fucking kicked LOL 1v1
Roflmao 😂
Hbk was the best ever...
🤣🤣
Brett hart is the biggest cry baby Mark in the history of the business if the spot light isn't on him he has to find someone to blame something on
So the kid that beat him up was 14? Not surprised, most 14 year olds could beat him up.