@@Parasolhyena I was curious if Cassidy could copy his murderer's voice using his memories, like Mimic, if ya'know what I mean He/she can mimicking the voices of Mediocre Melodies, so...
Yk part of me almost wonders if during the production of the first game, Golden Freddy was intended to be the suit William used to lure the children, with the it’s me line referring to William saying “it’s ME”… the killer, with the direction of the story pivoting when the fanbase grew and Scott decided he wanted to create something more than just a spoopy robot game out of spite. During the days of the first and second games, summing everything up to just “kids died and are haunting the robots” was probably everything Scott was really thinking about, especially with the DCI being present to almost give a reason for more robots to be haunted, however upon seeing how deeply the fanbase was theorizing about the series, he decided to take it a bit more seriously. That’s just how it reads to me anyway…
Yeah during this video especially I was wondering what Scott's original intention with Golden Freddy's classic line. Not that knowing the original intention would help at all considering it's probably changed by this point
Wow, never in 10 years have i ever thought about that first part about william being golden freddy. Back in 2014 that would make a lot of sense. Scott might just have put that to be part of the scare in FNAF1, but then again, why say ''it's me'', like it's me who?? It is so confusing and we still have no clues to this day.
I think that'd be cool but then I'd wonder why the news clippings say 5 kids died and then only 4 are in the animatronics but the 5th animatronic is the killer, it'd be easier to just say 4 kids. I think the original intent in game 1 was even simpler actually. I think "It's me" is just taunting. It's me, I was killed but my anger lives. It's vague but haunting. It definitely changed meaning once fans started getting really invested.
I really hope that some day Scott will release the full true lore of every bit of the series. As fun as it is theorizing and whatnot, knowing the truth afterwards would be far more satisfying.
i disagree. as awesome as that would be, the lore would be over instantly, and the series would die. fans talking is the only thing keeping it all going. besides, we know for a fact that dream theory was correct back before sister location launched, so we know A version of the lore. it just.. got retconned.
@@spookykitty72 Like I said, I want it "some day." I don't want it to happen immediately. Maybe some time years down the line once the series is finished and nothing new is coming out.
@@spookykitty72 We do not, in fact, "know for a fact" that dream theory was correct at any point. In fact, given that, prior to FNaF 6's release, Scott stated that there had only been _one retcon_ and that it was something _seamless_ that _no one noticed,_ it's VERY unlikely that it was dream theory being retconned, given it was the biggest theory for a while and that everyone noticed it not being the case in Sister Location.
@@CharaViolet i refuse to believe that dream theory wasnt retconned. every single point in the game points to it without any arguments against it up to sister location. scott is a liar and a fool to play our minds with a "small retcon." reminder that fnaf 4 was supposed to be the last one.
22:38 what if Cassidy is saying "it's me" to Michael because they think Michael is William too? Afterall, in the first games, all of the other animatronics think Michael is his father, so why not Cassidy too? Maybe they're saying "it's me" in a "hey, remember me? Cause I remember you and you shouldn't have killed me" kind of way.
They already spring lock William at this time and if they thing he is William. Why don't put him in his personal hell already and golden Freddy rare to apper
I always thought it was the kids in general, not just Golden Freddy because "It's me" can appear in Pirates Cove, the East Hall, and in random hallucinations not just Golden Freddy
@@maxwellattacks6645 well it's a good one but maybe it's just golden Freddy can change the sign like how he changed the photo of Freddy and Scott always linked it's me with golden Freddy
@@aliemad2337Well we don't specifically know the timeline of when Willam is springlocked, so it is possible that he was not springlocked at the time FNAF 1 takes place, plus the FNAF 3 minigames (the ones where William breaks FNAF 1 animatronics), kinda imply that it is after FNAF 1 as the animatronics are whole and not broken plus the pizzeria seems to be in worse shape in the minigames.
@@ninjicekcz4250 maybe but why didn't Cassidy send William to his personal hell they even rare too appear I don't think Cassidy will act like this if they thing Michael is willam
@@NingyoTheInkling I meant golden Freddy being a separate character. I also think they made Freddy the new mascot just so the could reuse all their bear memorabilia
Personally I think the way CC died actually does lend credence to why he is also possessing Golden Freddie. And it kinda relates to the Stitch Wraith, not 1 to 1 but the concept it introduces. It's just that CC has less control and Cassidy has more because of how they died in relation to the suit and how they are in the animatronic. Cassidy's whole body was in there so she has better control and more memories, but CC's body wasn't in there so he can't do much. A good indication he is in there is him saying "I can't see" as Altered Text. If CC was just a wandering spirit, he'd be able to see but just be lost. Also you might say, "well you have to actually be stuffed into it to possess it" and to that I say........Charlie. Charlie wasn't killed by or stuffed into the Puppet but she still possesses it. So the rules of how possession work arent as simple as the body needing to be in the object or be in contact for long since Charlie was found that night. The only significance the body has to possess based on all the deaths is to set what degree of control the spirit has and how much of their memory they have but the body doesn't necessarily have to be in the object for possession to take place. As for my answer for the "It's Me" showing up at random times without Golden Freddie being on screen. Either that's an early warning indication that Golden Freddie has a chance to appear soon or it is able to happen cause Golden Freddie is in the building. As seen in multiple FNAF media, including the movie, a spirit doesn't need to be in the room to communicate with someone
Charlie is more likely to have died touching The Puppet than CC was with Fredbear. we literally see the moments surrounding Charlie's death, possibly even her exact moment of death, in the "Assigned Child" minigame; Puppet realizes she's outside and chases after her through the rain, only to collapse with its arms around her. additionally, Puppet's main motive was to protect this child at all costs, so they were linked before Charlie even died. CC didn't even die at a pizzeria, he died either at home or in a hospital, while in a coma which was the result of the Fredbear bite. you might be onto something with the level of control thing, i just don't find your evidence compelling enough to believe in it myself. however, we do have other instances of multi-possession where the souls have differing levels of control. that's the whole progression of Ennard > Molten Freddy > Tangle. we also have the Stitchwraith, which isn't necessarily canon to the games, but it is another clear example of multiple souls sharing a body. additionally, your theory would help make sense of the fnaf 3 bad ending image, with the animatronic heads with the lights in them. i always thought the Fredbear mask had 2 lights in it until very recently (like a few minutes ago lmaooo). but if you look, the mask only has one, very bright light. the excess brightness could mean both that Cassidy is extra angry (she is the Vengeful Spirit which Michael should not have killed, after all) and that there's extra possession energy from CC being a secondary/weaker spirit. i think you're right that the rules of possession aren't as simple as 'touching the animatronic upon death = possessing it', but i don't think we have enough information to narrow the rules down any further than that. my personal running theory is that it's more about the person's relation to the animatronic than anything physical. in the case of the original 5, they possess the suits because their bodies were hidden within them and not found for possibly weeks or months. Charlie possesses Puppet because Puppet was trying to protect her when she died. Elizabeth possesses Baby because she was made in Elizabeth's image, and the child loved her because of that. this line of thinking is the only one that applies to all the possessions that we have information on. i wish we knew more about the DCI victims and the Toy animatronics for this reason. we don't even know for sure if they're possessed, let alone how their related victims died. but this only matters if those kids were killed separately from the animatronics, with no strong or consistent relation to them whatsoever, in which case it totally disproves my theory. whether the Toys are possessed or not, on its own, has no bearing on the theory. but knowing more - anything - about the DCI victims and their relationships with the Toys would immensely help in clearing up how possession works, and subsequently whether it's possible that CC is co-possessing Fredbear or not. oddly related thought i just had: is it possible that the Toys were running the Mimic-1 program? that would have some pretty crazy implications for a lot of things lol, especially the idea of a Mimic-esque animatronic being possessed
My idea on how the crying child could end up in Fredbear: The Bite, or more specifically, its aftermath, when the bite happened, things like bone parts, skin, Blood, and Brain matter were likely splattered out, ending up all over Fredbear’s mouth. The remaining blood, brain matter, bone parts etc would allow him to possess Golden Freddy, since there were still pieces of him on Fredbear.
im a headass but i do role with the idea of cassidy being golden freddy, andrews nightmare and the shadows, and bite victim could be either fredbear or something else since i still can pin point bro for shit lol.
As far as we know the person has to be in close proximity if not touching the vessel it will go on to possess at the moment of death. BV doesn't die during the bite, but instead later when succumbing to the injuries. Even if some stray pieces were with Fredbear after the Bite, those wouldn't matter because they're not a part of him at the time he actually dies. Basically, if you lose a part of your body, but survive and then die later on, I doubt you'd suddenly possess whatever that lost piece of you is at, because that part of you became disassociated with what part of you lives prior, and therefore whatever the soul is wouldn't be with it anymore and therefore have nowhere to go from it. I doubt every cell of your being is always a conduit for your soul up until death. A timeframe would reasonably exist, and likely as short as it would take for a piece of you that's been lost to die off. I doubt any part of him that would be in Fredbear by the time of his death was still living.
@@vincentadamsvgai’ve never thought about it this way! my question to you is; if it DID come out that they’re both postering GF, do you think a reasonable explanation would be that (due to what you e stated) cassidy finds a way to crying child in his last few moments, security puppet style? decides it’s best to take him in rather than let him wander all alone? it might help memory stuff out more, and kinda goes with the stitchwraith equation a bit better. i’m not SAYING there’s two of em in there, im just tryna figure out how there would be if that were to be the case!
Yeah if you look closely, only one eye has the circular light coming from it, the mask’s right eye isn’t lit, it’s just the 1 lit eye lighting the mask
That, and the other heads have one light, and the light is somewhat illuminating the other eye socket. The golden Freddy head has one bright light that illuminates both eye sockets. Given the position the heads are, it does explain why it looks like there’s 1 light, and Golden Freddy is facing towards the viewer, which makes it look like there are 2 lights, when it’s just 1 that’s illuminating both eye sockets, when it’s just one light.
P.s. I do agree with you. Give the UCN last ending, Golden Freddy moving is crazy, because we’ve never seen Golden Freddy physically move. His twitching is similar to how Afton got springlocked. The reason Cassidy being vengeful to William, because William stuffed Cassidy in GF, the springlocks went off, making it agonizing even more. As for why Cassidy was labeled as the princess and changed back to princess, it’s up for debate? 🤷🤔
It’s rather simple, clearly steelwool simply changes their mind with the princess name as it was changed as soon as people found it indicating that it should not be taken as canon. What the hell it actually means is a mystery onto itself but this is Fnaf so even the littlest crumbs of information are frustratingly unsolvable mysteries, especially if they came from security breach
Maybe, or it was intended to be Cassidy, and steel wool didn’t want it to be revealed so soon, because they didn’t think about the fans going through the game files.
I think the princess is supposed to be a play on tropes as princesses in most fiction are supposed to be saved by the hero while this princess wields a sword and is more aggressive. If Cassidy is the princess it could mean that while Cassidy is both aggressive and protective they still need to be saved.
this makes quite a bit of sense, the entire mechanic for dealing with golden freddy is basically "don't look at it", the "it's me" doesn't help you, but it can make sense in the context of "no, it's me, look at me not that guy!" then again, I also like the theories that CC is the one in golden freddy, his remnant/agony possessing the suit, but his body buried away, remember that the suit was dual-mode, it functioned as both performer suit, and animatronic suit, and while the possessors can manipulate the robot system, they can't full-on override, and later on the animatronic parts were removed outright, to repair other animatronics, leaving it as an emergency performer suit to replace freddy if need be, being unable to override, only manipulate, also explains fnaf3, remember, springtrap is forced to move to the rooms with the audio lure, with the laughter of a child, william CAN'T control that, if he was fully in control, he would not keep on following laughter of invisible children, even in security breach, the virus can only manipulate the animatronics, it cannot full on override, it makes them seek a lost child, something that's pre-programmed, and then causes whatever the jumpscare is, but we know from parts and service, that even "good ol' buddy" freddy will do the same attack if you mess up the repair, so that, too, would most likely be a "feature", in fnaf 1 & 2, also, each animatronic has specific patterns they do not stray from, e.g. they only ever enter from one side, they never wander to the other side, simply lost souls would not be sticking to such patterns, especially so if they do want to kill the nightguard, because even kids generally understand catching people by surprise works a lot better than being predictable and the twitching suit in UCN can be explained as "the one" taunting william, who tried to preserve his son's life my shoving him into the suit, after all hope had already been lost, but only causing more pain
21:08 something I just now noticed about the word search (somehow, because it's very obvious): "it's me" is almost written a LOT, it's all over the place. Usually broken up in the middle by an unrelated letter or 2. Assuming altered text (and therefore the crying child) did that, that's actually really sad. He's calling out to Mike with that classically Golden Freddy phrase, but for one reason or another he just can't quite get the words out. I know a lot of people recently have started having doubts about Golden Freddy's dual possession we assumed for a while- I still believe it's the case, but I'm not gonna call anyone wrong. Just going on a little ramble about how a particular detail fits under my particular interpretation. :>
23:04 Yes, CC is never placed into Fredbear, BUT spirits in general typically are said to haul places or objects that ment a lot them. Wether it ment some good or bad, they'll presumably go back to it and haunt/possess it.
In my oppinon It's Me is unrelated to Golden Freddy it appears in FNAF 1 and 2 often separately from Golden Freddy. So I always thought it either meant the kids in general telling Mike who they believe is Willam "It's us the kids you killed" or its Willam himself saying he did it
In the first games, maybe. But in later games, most of the time golden Freddy is mentioned or referenced, It’s Me is also there. So at the very least they are associated in some way.
Here's what I think. Originally Golden Freddy was just the crying child. Just trying to reach out to his brother. Then in two we got a puppet. So Scott started expanding. By 3 and 4 C.C. was still Golden Freddy, but Scott needed to show the Charlie spirit moving on as well so he did the two eye things. At this point I do think Cassidy was crying child. Then the fandom went with this whole Cassidy is not the crying child, but another spirit. Originally it was supposed to be Charlie and Cassidy talking in the log book, but Scott heard what the fandom came up with and developed this whole "the one you should not have killed" kid. That's the retcon. The story evolved and Scott left enough room to change it per game. It wasn't originally this big convoluted mess. It was a story about a father that became a murderer. Let his son die, and abused the other one. Then It was Michaels story of revenge. A nice trilogy ending it on fire. Clean. In 4 he wanted to try and clear it up, but it only gave us more questions. That's when he started with the whole idea of a child with revenge thing, but I'm almost 100% sure that's not the original story. It wasn't that complicated in the beginning. "it's me Michael, your brother Cassidy"
Originally GF was one of Aftons victims. Since the first game the 5 missing children possessed the main 4 and Golden Freddy. Fnaf 4 just made everything confusing
@@logankrause4990 that's fine, but which part? No way Scott had this whole "vengeful spirit" thing drawn up from the beginning. That was added later as the story grew.
I would also like to add that a common rule for FNAF is that if its the same thing throughout different media. And the one thing I keep seeing is one spirit in the suit. We have one spirit in the Silver eyes and one spirit in the FNAF Movie. So I think we need to need to apply this and may need to accept that there is one spirit in Golden Freddy in the Games as well. Which I do understand messes things up. But hey thats FNAF. Anyway thank you for reading my little ted talk.
Crying Child just doesn’t exist in the books though,neither does Mike Afton. Same with the movie,Afton’s only kid is Vanessa. So I wouldn’t immediately jump to that conclusion
@@WilliamAaronTheYapmaster Perhaps, but the sequel might reveal that the blonde boy was Vanessa's brother Cassidy. Then that would cause more people to connect that the Crying child is Cassidy.
@@Lightning-gg5iu I haven't watched the movie, but I have watched vids from the film theorists on it. I'm just saying that William might have put his son in the Golden Freddy suit after Vanessa pulled a prank on her brother that involved his head getting bitten. However, that would have been after offing the other 4 kids and noticing how the animatronics got possessed. However, that desperation and insanity probably caused his son to die via springlocking.
that cat is so happy holy shit genuinely don't know if you're using him for the content or if he's using you for the brushes but I feel like he's winning
@@Limomon oh no i meant the fnaf 3 game files no the ultimate guide ( the 3rd guide book in the freddy files series) and he is indeed called that in the ultimate guide but u could say that the fnaf 3 veriant of shadow freddy is called crumpled freddy
But he’s very clearly not purple. Which would be fine except we see Shadow Freddy in the cutscenes and he’s purple. My interpretation is he’s just a springlocked Freddy’s employee. Thanks to phone guy,we know Freddy’s had springlocks while Fredbear’s was open so this is probably one of them
@@WilliamAaronTheYapmaster The FNAF 3 office has this green lighting superimposed onto it. If you remove this lighting, then the crumpled suit becomes purple, and so it is Shadow Freddy.
@@ahusky4498 Does it? No,God,no,my bloody timeline is ,well,actually gonna be fine. But now I have to find the identity of the second Freddy’s springlock suit. Actually,it could just be the Freddy suit you’re stuffed into in fnaf 1’s death scenes.
Michael Brooks said It's Me to Carlton in The Silver Eyes. Basically implying that Michael was within' Golden Freddy, I believe that the "It's Me" texts we see in FNaF 1, independitly of who says that, it's to tell Michael that the MCI is within' the animatronics, as their bodies were never found.
Incredibly solid theory, and one of my favorite interpretations of Crying Child that ive seen. My personal take on CC is that he becomes a sort of poltergeist after he dies since he couldn't attach to anything. His memories influence the pizzerias that he wanders (like toy chica's beak getting lost in fnaf 2, or the constant 'ITS ME') but he doesn't possess anything specifically. This could also be why golden freddy is so much more ghost-like in nature, not only does it have an immense amount of agony from Cassidy, but CC's memories would impact golden freddy the most, since fredbear was both his best friend and what killed him in the end. It's not just a possessed suit but a suit being influenced by CC, likely subconsciously, as an outside force.
I really like this theory, it aligns with the preconceived ideas and thoughts that I had about the spirits. I also want to add that in the movie, it is a missing children's victim that haunts golden Freddy, meanwhile Michael seems to have a spiritual connection in his dreams with his brother (Garrett - a supposed crying child parallel) which supports the theory that he would be experiencing both supernatural hauntings from the MCI spirits (particularly Cassidy) as well as his brother simultaneously and separately.
Things I think about golden Freddy. 1. I’m personally under the belief that golden Freddy no longer has spirits inside of him, in happiest day crying child’s soul is freed, and if the theory about the princess quest princess being Cassidy is true then I think her soul has possessed the games code, however even though golden Freddy is no longer possessed I think he’s still haunted by the agony of both crying child and vengeful spirit. 2. I think it’s possible that golden Freddy is just an astral projection of fredbear used by either crying child or vengeful spirit. 3. If the stitchwraith is meant to teach us about golden Freddy then I think it’s possible at first crying child is in control and Cassidy only takes over when Evan’s spirit is put to rest during happiest day. 4. If fnaf world is charlottes doing then I think it’s very possible after happiest day crying child might be helping her in some way. 5. I think the reason Cassidy/the vengeful spirit hates William so much and torments William by putting him through animatronic challenges is because before her death William may have done something similar to her and tormented her before he killed her.
@@keeganguyer5237 I think it was confirmed in the FNAF 1 missing children reports that the MCI kids were killed at different time intervals, with the last 2 being killed together.
I think you bring up a really good point with 3, especially since the person controlling the stitchwraith varies throughout the stories. I don’t necessarily agree with everything but I think that point and 5 have some really strong evidence to support them
1. Not a chance, Vengeful spirit is still kicking William's butt (Maybe CC already left but it seems Scraptap repairments were the last nail of William's live coffin) 2. Half answer, it is a springlock suit with the ability of projection (I've been asking for years about Golden Freddy's location and NO ONE knows)
Cassidy might be getting vengeance for Crying child in a similar way to how William made crying child experience all those nightmares. Because Crying Child still loves their dad even tho he tormented him (think abuse victim). You know who takes vengeance on abusers? Typically a friend of the victim instead of the victim themself. Cassidy probably also took crying childs soul into golden freddy to protect him just like how they protect all the other victims.
22:20 I think it's completely possible for Cassidy in golden Freddy to be saying "it's me" to Michael because as we saw at the end of sister location, "they thought I was you". Cassidy could've mistaken Michael for William because they look so similar. "It's me, the one you should not have killed."
This is genuinely my favourite golden Freddy theory, a scared child known for sobbing all the time finding what he thinks is his comfort toy in the afterlife with him and clinging to that so strongly as he has no idea or clue what else to do is so sad and resonates so much more than just ‘alt colour bear have 2 soul’
incredible work rly nice counterpoint to the cc/cassidy theory with the clue pages all having Faded's "MY NAME" on them i personally still think golden freddy is a duo of cc and cassidy because i rly think thats what the stitchwraith story is trying to tell us, but this video is the most valid other theory ive seen (in my opinion)
Yes I also believe that the stitchwraith is literally giving us clues on how golden works. Ppl are always saying that Andrew himself is TOYSHK which makes no sense at all. We literally have no evidence of him in the game unlike Cassidy who we see in the logbook and in trilogy novels and also being The princess in SB and using ITP a spin-off game based on the FF novel for Andrew is not good evidence.
I really like this theory Rye! but it does exacerbate a small problem i've always had with the logbook. Assuming that as seems most likely, Cassidy is faded's name, why/how does Crying Child (altered) know that? especially when he doesn't seem to know much about anything at all? I say this theory exacerbates that since surely CC would answer to faded something like Fredbear or Freddy if he were sticking to Golden Freddy for the reasons you suggested.
I know it's not super strongly backed now that we're reasonably sure Mike Schmidt isn't Purple Guy, but I've always preferred the theory that "It's Me" is the Vengeful Spirit yelling at their killer. As little sense as it makes these days, I've simply always liked it more than anything else
I think we can assume that Mike Schmidt is Michael Afton. By doing this it makes understanding "it's me" better. I feel like the animatronics are trying to remind "their killer" of the atrocity that they witnessed by saying its me. This could also explain why the death screens show your player shoved into a spare freddy suit as they're doing what they saw.
That’s not the problem, the Puppet collapses on top of Charlie’s body almost immediately after she dies, CC go’s into a coma and live’s long enough to be hooked up to a heart monitor and die’s either in the hospital or in his house well away from Fredbear
@@Gaming_nerd1987 Pieces of brain matter that aren't attached to him at the time of death. Your soul is with the part of you that's alive, not dying pieces that are no longer attached to you. For example, if you lose a foot and then die later on, you're going to possess something in the vicinity of where you are if you possess anything in the first place or just pass on straight away, not where your detached already dead or dying foot is. Your soul wouldn't split apart prior to being dead.
Honestly, I still can't shake off the feeling that Crying Child somehow, in some way, resides inside fredbear, and is even present in the ultimate custom night, either as a vengeful spirit or not, since in UCN, there are MANY fnaf world references, references that Cassidy wouldn't possibly know, since I think that fnaf world is Crying Child and whoever is Psychic Friend Fredbear(In my vision, both charlie and william, but only charlie in fnaf world), Cassidy can't possibly be the fredbear plush, they died in 1985, the plush was already strange in 1983, and the nightmare animatronics are experiments made by william on either kidnapped kids, or like I believe, Crying Child, Cassidy can't possibly know how they look like, Mike only drew Nightmare Fredbear/Nightmare in the logbook, wich is why he appears in fnaf VR. I do think yellow eyes is meant to be the fredbear plush, since they say the exact same lines, plus, if the crying child didn't possess anything, "I will put you back together" coming right at his "death" (I say "Deah" because a flatline dosen't always mean death, it could be just that the body was disconnected from the heart thing.), and (if you believe) said by William Child-Stuffer-inside-animatronics-Expert himself, or by Puppet the giving-life-to-dead-children-through-animatronics-expert, you'd think they'd make him possess something, and "The spirit follows the flesh", the bite seems like something that would clearly leave some blood or remains in fredbear's mouth, when I look at UCN, I can't help but think that UCN was clearly made by William afton's son, or at least had part of him. And why when we death coin golden freddy, we get an actual jumpscare from fredbear? Not just a look like we normally do with golden freddy jumpscares? And why specifically Fredbear? And Jake possesses something without being close to it, he only needed strong emotions towards that thing, why can't crying child do the same? Edit: Also, Cassidy is often depicted as a female in a lot of continuities, but the spirit possessing fredbear and "The Vengeful Spirit" are always boys, and in the UCN, there are animatronics who refer to TOYSNHK as "He" (I don't think they're referring to the Golden Freddy animatronic, they seem to be talking about the kid william killed.) Edit number 2: In the movie, there's a detail I don't see many people talk about, but in the drawing abby makes to reveal to the children that afton is the bad guy, she draws every missing kid....except the blonde boy. Instead, she draws a dark-haired boy, with a red shirt, this leads me to believe that the blonde kid is not real, and is just a projection of the spirit of Garret, like what happens in the book "The New Kid", and the true possessor of Golden Freddy is Garret schmidt, the paralel of the crying child in the movies. Edit number 3: Also, there are lines in ucn that ties back to c.c, like "We know who our friends are, and you are NOT one of them." and "Let me take you apart and put you back together"
18:49 For me, FNAF Lore or Timeline are like a big complex puzzle without clear picture. You are given many pieces, some of them have colors and some of them are blank. All puzzles don't have any stable shape, they can just fit in each other differently. Some of them fits perfectly, some of them fits a little harder or don't even fit. You can built almost full picture but many pieces are missing and you have to use blank pieces, drawing on them the picture you think should be to continue collecting it. In the end, everyone gets different full picture, or like 3d Shape idk. Some of them look pretty and solid, but some of them can be very fragile and awful, depending how person built it. But there would be never a real original picture, for now at least. It supposed to be individual for everyone. Alright, I think my yapping went a little too far. Great video overall.😁
I do really like this theory but I genuinely have no idea what Scott could’ve been getting at when writing the Stitchwraith story if Golden Freddy didn’t have two spirits inside. Sometimes I just wish I could read his mind and know what he was thinking lol
what if golden Freddy, like the fun times, is confusing Mike for William. so when golden Freddy says "it's me" it isn't "it's me, your brother" but "it's me, the one you should not have killed"
the narrative you put together at the end made me really emotional,, CC being lost and alone then clinging to a spirit that reminds him of his fredbear plush T^T
One of the reasons I think golden Freddy is the v.s is because he isn’t like the others, he glitches, he twitches, and he appears on screen, manipulating your vision.. does that not seem like someone brutally murdered and seeking revenge, I mean Michael does look like his father, plus why would c.c make Michael see the mci poster, he isn’t apart of them. Why would c.c hate William? And how would he mistaken his own brother as his father, he can’t, what he uses to communicate with faded text is the logbook, which is given to Mike and signed by him, the stichwraith mentions 2 souls… ONE BRUTALLY MURDERED, AND THE OTHER DYING IN THE HOSPITAL.. that’s exactly how “Cassidy” and “c.c” died, although c.c’s death wasn’t caused in the hospital, he died there just like Jake, and Andrew is a clear parallel to Cassidy, both were brutally murdered and are trying to get back at the one who killed them, isn’t that a clear reference to ucn? Who else was killed (by dear willy) other than the 5 missing kids (that we rlly know of?) gab, fritz and jeremy, there is not a whole lot about them, Susie is Crystal clear and does not seem to be holding any anger, so who could it be? The 5th missing child, the only one put into an already used and broken animatronic.. it makes sense why Cassidy is more vengeful, not only did he kill her, he also put her into a broken animatronic while the rest got ones that get special treatment.
This is a really good video, but if I'm being honest I had a hard time paying attention to anything you were saying. I was too distracted by how happy your cat looked getting its hair brushed.
But golden Freddy is probably in suit mode when we see it no? It explains why he can't move and only appears in our office as he does Edit: when Fazbear disposed of the bodies they probably put golden freddy back into suit mode and out of animatronic mode, explaining why he can no longer move.
I always preferred the april fools "John Conner" theory: That the nightguard and golden freddie are the same person. . . but golden freddie is from the future and is lost and confused. When he sees his past self before he dies "IT'S ME! OMG IT'S ME!!!!" Thank you ballpit, very cool. It's the best joke-theory out there.
The problem i have with cassisy bwing faded text is: cc is altered text. What is the point in making a puzzle about learning someones name involving the most unnamed character in the franchise only to have the solution to the puzzle be the mame of a new character entirely. Yes, cc does seem intrested in faded name. But mike provides the final clue to cassidys name. Why would he know random kids name when his brother is right there. If you are right and tge conversation is to help both faded and cc recall their name you would have to prove that there is a second name. Or else the most reasonable assumption is that cassidy is cc.
This has literally been my interpritation for so long and im so glad a creator is on the same wavelength. Also there is no world anyone can convince me the FNAF 3 Bad Ending light in Golden Freddy's head isn't just one light and a creator like MatPat said he saw two and its become a common misconseption
This sound too complicated to be the truth so I am not bough. the main thing about cassidy being a random kid and the one torturing afton just feels so.... idk... cheap?, unrewarding?. It feels worng idk... like following a detective story for the end of the story be said "oh, you remember all this time we have spent with this characters? none of them is the killer, is this random dude that one day appeared and that we have not known much about until now), so yeah, the its me not being connected and its just "no, its the crying child that feels better when golden freedy is around" loses me so quick, but nice theory.
Crazy idea. So in Sister Location Mike says the funtimes thought he was William, so what if “it’s me” is Cassidy taunting what they think is William (but it’s actually) Mike . And maybe after being ignored so much that’s why in UCN instead of “me” it’s “the one you should not have killed”
Why Gators? Old man Consequences looks like a gator We had the child in the gator mask 8-bit games And for all the characters that Afton could have included alongside the established species of the foundational characters...a Gator. My theory is Fallfest is Afton's most uninformed, unskilled, kill. And when he couldn't dispose of them, and panicked, he fed them to the Gator in the lake. Lost spirits will often wander...maybe through this kill, and the body was buried in the woods. It's why I think he feels more HAUNTED than he is STALKED These events didn't change him, but they live in his mind and he sees it through golden freddy because it was his first project after fallfest.
I've been telling for a year about William's first victim and I concur, he unalived someone way before of the events FNAF (Not sure if this goes way before of Fallfest)
@@keelyrey64 my thoughts being the gator being a feature of the festival, much in the way some would have petting zoos or lizard exhibits. The gator william fed his victim to being something he experienced in the context of the fall fest environment, bringing the character to mind when building fazbear entertainment and the branching cast of characters?
@@Friendowo that doesn’t make any sense though. With Utah fall weather, the Gator wouldn’t be eating while it brumates. Even in Texas, reptile brumation begins around mid-October, depending on temps that year, but typically lasts until February-March, again depending on temps.
A theory that I’m not sure is my own but one that’s come to mind is that CC never went to the hospital, instead going down below the fnaf 4 house where Afton can try to “put him back together” himself, he fails, and buries the body in the woods because he is attempting to cover the incident up, to try to save Mike or his business?
To me this explains the woods burial, the med equipment in a normal bedroom, maybe even fredbear plush saying “I will put you back together” being Aftons voice as he finally fails and CC dies under his care, and after doing whatever he does to CC, he disguards the body in the woods leaving it lost and leaving his son “missing” It goes along with Ryes theory of him wandering in and near his home
I've always kinda thought the name "Golden Freddy" sounded like an extra skin character you could get in one of those gambling mobile games. Made it funnier when those Freddy variations in AR became a thing, bro fits right in. 😂
@@mylam658 Never thought of that. You reminded me of that official Roblox that had a Gold Freddy skin with red eyes. There was an old fan animation in a style inspired by South Park, where YellowBear had red eyes. A little off-topic, but it was a topic that lead into another topic, that lead into another topic. Lost? don’t blame you.
13:57 I’m pretty sure it is said in the first novel that *all* the children ”died in the suits”, meaning that they were killed by the process of being stuffed like Phone Guy and the other implied security guards were
My biggest problem, as always, with FNAF theories, is that people try to fit together clues that are years apart, sometimes even media apart, erasing the probable original meaning of those clues back in the day. Looking at FNAF 1, for example. We know Scott didn't intent to make another game after this one. What do we learn here ? That there was a bit in 1987 back when the animatronics could walk during day time. So we play a couple of years after the incident. We learn that the animatronics are at least 20 years old and they never get washed. We learn that a missing person report will be filled in the 90 days after the discovery od death or hurt, probably after the evidence were covered to protect the business. We learn that the animatronics will see us as endoskeletons and try to put us into a suit. We learn that the best way to escape that fate is by playing dead, getting all limp where we stand. But that could also mean we're missing our endo so back to the original problem. In his last call, phone guy is asking us to check the check the costumes in the back room, just in case, because he's being attacked. We learn about kids being lured by a person dressed as an animatronic, caught on cameras and arrested, but the bodies were never found. We learn that the pizzeria is closing years after the incident, and of the mascotts leaking blood and mucus, getting the attention of health service. We also know that safety rules aske kids not to get close to Freddy, to stay close to mom. And it seems a handprint can be seen on Freddy's head if you're looking for it. So, we learned about 2 types of incidents : one being 5 kids getting missing, lured in the back room of the restaurant before being hidden in the suits, only being discovered some time after thanks to people eating at the pizzeria. That part explain why the animatronics the way they do and why they want to stuff us into those suits. And, since they are only 4 active at night, it's easy to assume someone was stuffed inside Golden Freddy as well. His position could lined up with the "play dead" part, to not be seen. But on the other hand, Golden Freddy is trying to get our attention by spaming "it's me" in our face. This happened years before we look out for the place. And it's implied the company will cover its back by not noticing the problem right away or planning back up cover like the animatronics being smelly because they're old and never washed. And then, there is the bite of 87, implied to have happened during the day, probably to a kid, years before. And Freddy was probably the one responsible, or even Golden Freddy. It would explain the "it's me", the fact that he doesn't appear normally as part of the gang, being a spare to Freddy. The interesting point is phone guy mentioning the bite of 87, like it's something everybody know, but the missing child incident is hidden away, despite the company ready to be closed off. Like, someone getting hurt by an animatronic is plane light, only changes the animatronics setting, but kids being killed by someone using a suit, the whole place closed off ? By that point, it's easy to assume the murderer was one of the employee, that was covered at first before being thrown under the bus. It's difficult to know which even happened first, since only the bite is dated. Maybe it happened during the missing child incident, since i took years to put an end to the pizzeria, and it only added to the problem. Like, the bite is what make the boss help the police sinc it couldn't be hidden so easily. Overall, the "it's me" could mean a lot of things : the victim of the bite, the culprit of the bite, the murderer, the person watching the place... All we can deduce from later game, up to FNAF 4, is that the spirit inside the golden suit doesn't need to taken apart to scare purple guy into hiding into the golden bonnie suit, that there was a kid injured by a golden bear during the day, even if the date don't add up, that we're looking to make a golden freddy masked child to move on at some point, surrounded by animatronics masked kids that could be the missing child incident kids, along with the puppet, absent from FNAF 1. The way I see it, the bite became the focus of FNAF 2, 3 and 4 more than the missing children incident. We play in 1987 in FNAF 2, we're helping the spirits move on in FNAF 3 and we litterally saw the bite happening in FNAF 4 (the dream theory being irrelevant here). So, to me, as the games went on, the Crying Child was intended to be the victim of the 87 bite, the one we must focused on the most, because, in a sense, he suffered the most. And I'll stand by the fact that the missing children were supposed to be the bullies responsible for his death. Then, the Silver Eyes trilogy decided to focus on the missing children incident at first, then on how you could trick people to make them see what you want with the Twisted Ones, before shifting to making robots that can pass as human with the Fourth Closet. As for Sister Location, it went in yet another direction with the Fun Times animatronics, that are completely the Twisted Ones from the novel, focusing more on William Afton and his daughter we never knew about before, making Baby a central point of the story as we saw in the Fourth Closet. And so on fro the game that followed, and the books as well. To me, Golden Freddy isn't an important part of the lore anymore, that story has ended almost 10 years ago. Is it perfect ? No, there are a lot of stuff that don't add up, but it's been like this since FNAF 2 that makes strong argurments for Mangle being responsible for the Bite of 87, or the bite itself being moved to 83. The important thing is what make sense as a whole, what the clues leads to. FNAF 4 was supposed to be the last one, or at least the "Final Chapter" quote implies the 4 first games have a connected story. If you only look at the games, it's difficult to even make sense of Dream Theory, Scott had to steped in. So yeah, I'm not a fan of the outside clues coming from other medium like the Security Log Book, because we shouldn't need it to make sense of the games. That's how people get confused, when you when to invest your time and energy to 50 different pieces to make a believable guess. And let's be honnest, I hate that "the one you shouldn't have killed" quote, for what it's implying. And assuming Cassidy died in a spring lock suit, she should be the most happy William died the same way, especially if she's the one to push him to hide in there. And the whole thing about happiest day and the picture showing the spirits having moved on, no lights in their eyes alltogether. Anyway, I don't disagree with your theory, it makes a lot of sense, but I don't like because I don't think everything can be tied together with this franchise ^^ Have a nice day !
Also something worth pointing out, in the New Kid, while Kelsey is getting Springlocked in Golden Freddy, the text literally describes his blood as pooling into a red lake that begins to move towards Devon as he watches in horror and numb shock.
I personally disagree. Crying Child WOULD have seen his body,he died right there out in the open. Why would his soul be lost? Also,his head was crushed,I guarantee his blood was inside that suit which gives him the perfect connection to possess the suit. Also,I assume his fear,sadness and pain likely were infused into the Fredbear suit as he got bit. Also,they’re just ghosts,like,they can possess whatever they want. I trust Occam and his razor on this one,we were showed him being killed by Fredbear because he possesses it. 2:10 and *I* argue it’s one of the Freddy Fazbear springlock suits that phone guy mentions. 2:43 and I theorise that it’s Mike Afton being tortured by CC’s spirit which William fused into the nightmares using sadness and fear (all emotions CAN work like agony,agony is just the strongest) Let’s also not forget that Fredbear could ONLY have been possessed by CC,by the time One He Shouldn’t Have Killed came along,it had most likely already decayed into Golden Freddy. So death coin Fredbear could mean CC is part of UCN (which could link to CC being Glitchtrap but that’s another can of worms) While it’s a good theory,I personally prefer the theory that LEFTY was built out of Golden Freddy. I mean,LEFTY was literally built to hold something humanoid and fuse with it. Springlock suits hold humanoid things and springlock failures fuse the Endoskeleton with the body. Plus,they’re both secret fifth more lore important second bear members of an animatronic band. You could even throw in the whole golden left eye thing Dual Process Theory pointed out I still think Faded is CC and Altered is TOYSHK. Which is funny because it’s the opposite reasoning of the Dual Process theory but it comes to the same conclusion. CC is Cassidy Afton. I don’t see how else faded would know things from the fnaf 4 house or personal things about Michael like his favourite ride or toy as a kid. I think that proves how open this series is to theorising.
As someone that lowkey is using Dual Process' video as personal headcanon now (because I crave nothing more than Narrative Satisfaction™), I love this take as well. Finally frames the close connection of Cassidy and Crying Child (as two separte kids) in a way that makes sense in a satisfying and story appropriate way.
This makes the most sense- besides people have been always settled on Cassidy and C.C being to separate kids, or maybe it can be the other way around where CC is Cassidy and the 5th missing kids name is unknown
Golden freddy having "rainy day" in fnaf world makes me think about those foot prints in midnight motorist and how golden freddy visits abby in the movie. The Alone together story also touches on how there are some ppl that have a special ability to see ghosts... idk seems connected
Honestly I'm surprised how little people have thought about a springlock failure being how Afton killed the vengeful spirit considering all this evidence. That being said, I certainly never thought of it myself, and it definitely makes a lot of sense why that would separate him from the others and cause him to become so vengeful and vindictive.
Cassidy overcomplicates everything for no reason. They were introduced too late to really fit in to the MCI. Instead, they feel like they were crammed in so that the story could keep going after Happiest Day. I love the idea that William was trapped in an eternal hell by one of his victims, but an entirely new character who retroactively "existed the whole time?" Why? I feel like other characters could have played the role of tormentor. Michael was strung along, witnessing his father's every crime and bearing the consequences for crimes he didn't commit. Henry feels immense guilt for his role in everything, continuing his revenge-fueled justice after death. Charlie, arguably another "one who [he] should not have killed." She presumably witnessed the murders as the Puppet as well, so I can see her tormenting him to near-death.
I agree. His death started everything and him being forgotten till Happiest Day in FNAF 3 and of course his backstory in FNAF 4 (from the lore timeline) is just extremely sad. Yes I agree that the chance of him possessing Golden Freddy is low in comparison to Cassidy but in my opinion he deserves to be the Vengeful Spirit. Williams creation ended his life and his promise to CC to put him back together never got real. I think that's a good reason to be a vengeful spirit.
@@GermanMapping it would just make sense since he is the only afton that actually appears but ends up being useless and it seems like all aftons that were shown ended up being antagonists (except michael because there needed to be a protagonist). William being William, springtrap and scraptrap. Elizabeth being circus baby, ennard and scrap baby. Michael is one of the antagonists of fnaf 4 but then became the protagonist. And then crying child being yellow bear, golden freddy (i call fnaf one golden freddy yellow bear) and the vengeful spirit would've made a lot more sense. Although some might say that the vengeful spirit isn't really an antagonist since he's giving karma to William and that's good, but in UCN we play as William so the vengeful spirit could be considered an antagonist. In my humble opinion, i really don't like cassidy being the vengeful spirit
its been established that contact with the bots can cause possession. Charlie wasn't stuffed into the puppet for example, or jake possessing Simon despite being carted away after passing from his tumor. Golden Freddy doesn't have the crying child just the 5th vicitm but my counter argument to the word search is when it says "it's me" and "cassidy" it also says "what is your name" so altered text could be introducing themselves and asking them that question. also faded text early in the book asks the question too. so i am on the cassidy is crying child side of the camp. they're more important to the story and having a name for all the aftons would be logical.
I forgot to talk about this with you, but I really love the theory/idea of Andrew being springlocked. Since springlocking is agonizing as hell, it would make sense on why Andrew make so vengeful.
I agree that Golden Freddy is just the 5th missing child & that's it. We've just been overcomplicating things with our headcanons & such. To add a few extra notes: Andrew is almost certainly NOT Golden Freddy. He wears an alligator mask, not a yellow bear mask. The New Kid has a kid with curly black hair in the Golden Freddy suit, but I don't think that really means much. Devon is also described as having messy black hair, so I think it's just a projection of HIS body as a trap Kelsey or Eleanor set up. As for why Andrew is so vengeful, the epilogues actually spell it out to us. Andrew is described as having never known love, so it's safe to assume that he's so vengeful because he genuinely doesn't know how to be positive. Not necessarily because he was killed brutally. So if Cassidy is the Vengeful Spirit in the games, she's probably in a similar situation.
Here's something that pi$$es me off. Whenever some one refer's to the MCI & that CC is the only soul in Golden Freddy, they say "William said his son went missing aswell" ... *B*TCH HE DIED INFRONT OF MULTIPLE PEOPLE & THERE'S ALSO CHARLIE WHO WENT MISSING*
The crying child was comatose though. So it's possible that William did sneak his son out and try to put him into the Fredbear suit only for it to springlock on him. So William could have claimed that his son went missing.
This is first video ive seen by you. And as much as i like to think that crying child is in golden freddy, it makes so much more sense for him to be a lost spirit. It still doesnt explain the 2 glowing eyes in the bad ending of fnaf 3 though. Great Theory, ill absolutely keep watching them
Michael had agony. We keep overlooking his pain of losing family members and the lack of love for him from his father which lead him being jealous and even vengeful to the lack meaning he had thought he lost in his family. But once he put Cassidy into Fredbear came a manifesting agony inside of Fredbear that Michael was running away from, which made him grow to despise that he couldn’t do anything with little strength that he had to keep his family safe and so he decided to trust in the process of being scooped. He get’s scooped looked more like his father, purple and dead looking, but with a soul too strong to just give out. Especially when he had the will to follow his own father’s every step leading up to SB Ruin.
Another good point i saw some other people pointing out about the log book is that the altered text didnt alter the text to spell out cassidy, altered text spelt out "its me" and some other sentences in the book while cassidy was scatered around the crossword
My main disagreement is that CC wouldn’t forget who he is. I mean,his body was right there. He’d have no reason to forget himself. I also just kinda don’t trust Alone Together. I mean,wouldn’t William forget who is by that book’s logic?
@@RyeToastbut then why would CC have the GF mask? Honestly,I think happiest day is just the missing kids.Shouldn’t Have Killed came back after FNAF 6 to sucker punch Afton repeatedly (also,if I remember correctly, Scott’s a Christian so it could literally just be hell)
@@WilliamAaronTheYapmaster simple it’s kinda the same reason why micheal had a foxy mask as despite never possessing him, CC is linked to Freafbear/goldeb Freddy even if CC doesn’t possess a animatronic
Cool concept, but i feel like the theory boils down to "no no cc isn't possessing golden freddy with Cassidy, cc is just hanging out with Cassidy (and by extension Golden Freddy)" like this isn't Golden duo it's Golden buddies if that makes sense. Regardless it's a cool theory and concept and I want to reiterate that in case anyone finds this, and gets angry at me
Golden Freddy himself is not Vengeful Spirit. That's why Fredbear's voice sounds nothing lie Vengeful Spirit. Cassidy is also shown being told to leave Afton to his demons (UCN), implying she was not on board with UCN. That's why she drowns/rests. She did not like the idea of keeping Afton alive, but knew she would not be able to convince Vengeful Spirit to stop, so she just rests. UCN's ending actually shows Cassidy following OMC's advise, and resting her soul as Afton is left to his demons in UCN. We know this because it's the exact opposite of the FNAF 3 trailer shot showing Afton's refusal to move on. Instead of zooming in as the music intensifies, Golden Freddy slowly fades away to dull music. Because Cassidy is resting. Fredbear in UCN, like the other characters in UCN's roster, is just a reflection of the past. Which is why the music for the roster is "Eisoptrophobia", the fear of mirrors. The death coin effects him differently due to the Fredbear suits importance to Afton's past, which is what UCN is punishing him for. Before UCN, Afton is told the gates of Hell have opened to swallow him whole, and to not keep the Devil waiting, obviously foreshadowing Afton being confused by UCN, Afton's personal Hell. You know another place from FNAF meant to symbolize Hell? The realm of Old Man Consequences, where, coincidentally, we hear William Afton screaming in Agony. As OMC tells Cassidy to leave Afton to his demons. OMC, being an entity based around consequences, would represent the Devil, meaning OMC is most likely behind UCN. OMC is even in the roster, implying he is from Afton's past. In the same Game, Deedee, who is associated with fishing and FNAF World like OMC, is seen having control over UCN, and taunting Afton. Then, TMIR1280, which is shown to be a direct continuation of FFPS and UCN, shows Vengeful Spirit being a male (like in UCN), a kid we didn't know about (like UCN revealers with the 7th victim of Chica) wearing a Gator mask (like OMC), and a shadow form (like Deedee's Xor form). As for why Andrew is associated with what might be a Montgomery Gator mask (The Steel Wool Games thematically tying Monty to Fredbear and Springbonnie), it might be the same reason Andrew speaks through the MMs, who we see as masks at Fredbear's in FNAF 3. Even if Andrew was stuffed into a Fredbear suit, he himself is not Golden Freddy, Cassidy is. So instead, Andrew, Afton's forgotten victim, is associated with Fredbear's forgotten characters. Even the name Old Man Consequences could be a double meaning for the character being the consequences of an old man, Afton. As for why Andrew is the most angry, both UCN and Frights eludes to the reason. UCN's story has many thematic parallels to FNAF 4, Bear Of vengeance supporting this. It's about a kid tied to Fredbear in some way tormenting an Afton who killed them with Nightmares. Nightmare, who is is tied to the Nightmare Facility, states "the Shadow fears me", the Shadow being what Andrew is referred to in TMIR1280 due to his shadow form. That means the Shadow is in UCN, that most likely being Xor/Deedee. This implies the one behind UCN is scared of specifically Nightmare. UCN potentially canonizes most of the FNAF 4 DLC Characters. Nightmaronne himself seemingly having importance to the story. The realm of OMC, who I have already establish is connected to Andrew, and where Afton is seemingly being tormented, is very reminiscent of the FNAF 4 menu, is shown to be tied to Garrett's memories, and is in the basement of FNAF World, like the Nightmare Facility was under Afton's home. Andrew while speaking through Nedd Bear says "this is how it feels, and you get to experience it over, and over, and over again". This implies Andrew has been put through something similar to UCN, and FNAF 4. In Frights, Andrew states that UCN was Andrew wanting to make Afton suffer like he suffered, further-more implying Andrew went through something like UCN because of Afton. And then, in "Dittophobia", the name of Rory, a Nightmare Facility Kid, means "Red King". While I do think King OMC from the SW Games is the Mimic, it still does further-more tie OMC and Andrew to the Nightmare Facility. Andrew hates Afton the most because while the others were killed right away, Andrew was tormented over a longer period of time, until finally being murdered. Also, the point of TMIR1280 was to directly explain UCN. It being a parallel just doe snot make sense. Especially when itls just Afton in TMIR1280, and when TFTP, which ties into Stitchline, confirms FFPS did happen.
Wouldn't the Word Search be Altered Text (possibly Bite victim) be saying Cassidy with the Word Search as itis literally text in the actual book? I mean "it's me" is there as well so either Bite Victim knows their name, Altered Text isn't just BV, BV is the VS or the Puppet is Faded Text. Think of it this way, 1.rather then VS using Faded text to help BV but rather solely talking to Michael showing they know about Michael's torture in the test rooms with the toys. 2.Michael responding to many of Faded Text's messages like "do you have nightmares" with Michael drawing Nightmare and vise versa with Michael drawing a grave and Faded writing "my name". 3. If indeed both BV and VS are in Golden Freddy and like the Stitchrafe one spirit can see and move the body freely while the other can only guide, watch and cause agony to infect/kill others but they can still communicate with eachother. Wouldn't it make sense for one spirit in Golden Freddy to effect the log book with the other guiding the one in control and messing up/infecting the contents of the books altering them. My opinion is that the Puppet is indeed Faded Text as it makes narrative sense, is aware or everything that has happened as well as what's happening around them and the Puppet is in fact fully there in FNAF 3 with Michael.
My big question with this theory would be that, if CC isn’t golden Freddy, then why would he wear a Golden Freddy mask in happiest day? If he were just a wandering spirit, then why would he be represented wearing an animatronic mask at all?
Another reason for Cassidy to be more vengeful than the others: William presumably used the Fredbear suit during the DCI, which was already possessed by Cassidy.
Something I should mention: In Fnaf 4, in one of the end-of-night minigames, in the parts and service room in there’s a body with curly hair inside a Fredbear suit. Take what you want with it y’all
Crazy how its been 10 years and we STILL have not figured out Golden Freddy entirely. Just shows how crazy Scott's mind was when he was coming up with the lore.
The drowning could also mean, that after aftons son dies in fredbear. The crying child Starts to move the suit and William was afraid and Put the suit in chains and drowns it in a nearby Lake. Maybe he forced Michael to Help him with that. This could be the Case for the "he Runs to that place again" in midnight motorist. Golden Freddy appears in the Front of Michaels window and Michael Breaks IT and Runs the the Lake where His little Brother or the Monster He become is now. This could be plausible. Aftons drowns His death son, and creates the vengeful Spirit. The one afton should Not killed. The Monster He or Michael created.
OK so we know Golden Freddy Dies last of the 5 MCI, what if what makes that kid different if he wasn't dead when put in the suit, but since Golden Freddy is a springlock, the springlocks kill him and that caused to AGONY. Now lets look at Cassidy as the Crying child. CC is biten by Golden freddy at his birthday, and in now in a coma. William kidnaps Suzy (remember this is the MIssing Child incident, not the Murdered Child Incident), and puts her in Chica, nothing happens, and so on until he takes Cassidy's living body and puts it in Golden Freddy, the springlocks kill him in Agony. That would make CC "the one you should not have killed" his own son. It explains Golden Freddy's agony and extra powers the others do not have, hell it even explains a timeline of events, EVERYTHING
If Cassidy, the Vengeful Spirit, is the sole possessor of Golden Freddy, why can't it move? The Crying Child being "lost" is really the only piece of soft evidence we have to support Golden Freddy being immobile, so I'm curious what your explanation for that is.
Maybe the crying child is stuck to grey brain matter that didn't get flossed out of Fredbear's teeth after the bite. Not an entire body, but enough to mess up all of the afterlife rules.
Baseless hypothesis, i would need to think more about it: Crying child is cassidy, his soul is split when the bite of 83' happens (I will put you back together). Security logbook, faded and altered are 2 parts of the same soul trying to understand each other. How would a random soul or even charlie know what CC toys looked like, why would they even involve mike just for this instance and not the rest of the kids? The mirror too: Look in the mirror, what do you see? It's me. It's me, being repeated multiple times. Faded and altered, its me. Im Cassidy. Cassidy Afton
I just want to point out that if the crying child died as a result of the coma/the bite, which happened in public and he went to the hospital for, he would not be buried in an unmarked grave in the woods. Like you can't bury your kid in the woods, even in the 80s. They give you choices when a loved one dies and one of the choices isn't "just let me take em," you know?
Somebody actually convincing solved the Foxy Puzzle and got Dave after "reflecting" the answer. The Crying Child is apparently called Dave if that is true.
Golden Freddy is actually my buddy Eric, he just does that sometimes.
Ah damn, I didn't even think about that. You're right
Eric like the Herobrine Eric?
Omg you know Eric too?
As Eric i can confirm, I am golden freddy
@@Shadow01974 HI Eric!
Cassidy: *walks up to CC*
Crying Child: Da-dy
Cassidy: DO I LOOK LIKE-
Yes essentially
LMAO
LMAO
Cassidy: TF U MEAN I LOOK LIKE YOUR DADDY
Pfft I like the idea that it would alter from the vinw and she just looks at this ghost kid and puts on her deepest voice
"Yes son, I am here."
@@Parasolhyena I was curious if Cassidy could copy his murderer's voice using his memories, like Mimic, if ya'know what I mean
He/she can mimicking the voices of Mediocre Melodies, so...
Yk part of me almost wonders if during the production of the first game, Golden Freddy was intended to be the suit William used to lure the children, with the it’s me line referring to William saying “it’s ME”… the killer, with the direction of the story pivoting when the fanbase grew and Scott decided he wanted to create something more than just a spoopy robot game out of spite.
During the days of the first and second games, summing everything up to just “kids died and are haunting the robots” was probably everything Scott was really thinking about, especially with the DCI being present to almost give a reason for more robots to be haunted, however upon seeing how deeply the fanbase was theorizing about the series, he decided to take it a bit more seriously.
That’s just how it reads to me anyway…
Yeah during this video especially I was wondering what Scott's original intention with Golden Freddy's classic line. Not that knowing the original intention would help at all considering it's probably changed by this point
Wow, never in 10 years have i ever thought about that first part about william being golden freddy. Back in 2014 that would make a lot of sense.
Scott might just have put that to be part of the scare in FNAF1, but then again, why say ''it's me'', like it's me who?? It is so confusing and we still have no clues to this day.
I think that'd be cool but then I'd wonder why the news clippings say 5 kids died and then only 4 are in the animatronics but the 5th animatronic is the killer, it'd be easier to just say 4 kids.
I think the original intent in game 1 was even simpler actually. I think "It's me" is just taunting. It's me, I was killed but my anger lives. It's vague but haunting. It definitely changed meaning once fans started getting really invested.
That would make that Just Gold song canon and i don't like that
That's what I thought the Follow Me minigames in FNAF 3 were telling us until knowing what we know now.
I really hope that some day Scott will release the full true lore of every bit of the series. As fun as it is theorizing and whatnot, knowing the truth afterwards would be far more satisfying.
i disagree. as awesome as that would be, the lore would be over instantly, and the series would die. fans talking is the only thing keeping it all going.
besides, we know for a fact that dream theory was correct back before sister location launched, so we know A version of the lore. it just.. got retconned.
@@spookykitty72 Like I said, I want it "some day." I don't want it to happen immediately. Maybe some time years down the line once the series is finished and nothing new is coming out.
@@spookykitty72 We do not, in fact, "know for a fact" that dream theory was correct at any point. In fact, given that, prior to FNaF 6's release, Scott stated that there had only been _one retcon_ and that it was something _seamless_ that _no one noticed,_ it's VERY unlikely that it was dream theory being retconned, given it was the biggest theory for a while and that everyone noticed it not being the case in Sister Location.
@@Srelathon bold assumption that a horror series would know when to quit ;-;
@@CharaViolet i refuse to believe that dream theory wasnt retconned.
every single point in the game points to it without any arguments against it up to sister location. scott is a liar and a fool to play our minds with a "small retcon."
reminder that fnaf 4 was supposed to be the last one.
Golden freddy is sans undertale confirmed?
True!
Golden Freddy = Ness
Movie Golden Freddy has a Sans eye
Go into my eye
Golden Freddy is sans is ness is matpat is ness
22:38 what if Cassidy is saying "it's me" to Michael because they think Michael is William too? Afterall, in the first games, all of the other animatronics think Michael is his father, so why not Cassidy too? Maybe they're saying "it's me" in a "hey, remember me? Cause I remember you and you shouldn't have killed me" kind of way.
They already spring lock William at this time and if they thing he is William. Why don't put him in his personal hell already and golden Freddy rare to apper
I always thought it was the kids in general, not just Golden Freddy because "It's me" can appear in Pirates Cove, the East Hall, and in random hallucinations not just Golden Freddy
@@maxwellattacks6645 well it's a good one but maybe it's just golden Freddy can change the sign like how he changed the photo of Freddy and Scott always linked it's me with golden Freddy
@@aliemad2337Well we don't specifically know the timeline of when Willam is springlocked, so it is possible that he was not springlocked at the time FNAF 1 takes place, plus the FNAF 3 minigames (the ones where William breaks FNAF 1 animatronics), kinda imply that it is after FNAF 1 as the animatronics are whole and not broken plus the pizzeria seems to be in worse shape in the minigames.
@@ninjicekcz4250 maybe but why didn't Cassidy send William to his personal hell they even rare too appear I don't think Cassidy will act like this if they thing Michael is willam
I always assumed golden Freddy was a fazbear attempt to cover up Fredbear by saying he’s a brand new animatronic.
Same
Sounds like something they'd do, not gonna lie.
Technically, Freddy was created before the bite, as a friend of Fredbear, but yeah.
@@NingyoTheInkling I meant golden Freddy being a separate character. I also think they made Freddy the new mascot just so the could reuse all their bear memorabilia
@@clayton_rose My fault, my brain ignored the "golden" in your sentence.
My bad
That cat was having the time of its life.
Personally I think the way CC died actually does lend credence to why he is also possessing Golden Freddie. And it kinda relates to the Stitch Wraith, not 1 to 1 but the concept it introduces. It's just that CC has less control and Cassidy has more because of how they died in relation to the suit and how they are in the animatronic. Cassidy's whole body was in there so she has better control and more memories, but CC's body wasn't in there so he can't do much. A good indication he is in there is him saying "I can't see" as Altered Text. If CC was just a wandering spirit, he'd be able to see but just be lost.
Also you might say, "well you have to actually be stuffed into it to possess it" and to that I say........Charlie. Charlie wasn't killed by or stuffed into the Puppet but she still possesses it. So the rules of how possession work arent as simple as the body needing to be in the object or be in contact for long since Charlie was found that night. The only significance the body has to possess based on all the deaths is to set what degree of control the spirit has and how much of their memory they have but the body doesn't necessarily have to be in the object for possession to take place.
As for my answer for the "It's Me" showing up at random times without Golden Freddie being on screen. Either that's an early warning indication that Golden Freddie has a chance to appear soon or it is able to happen cause Golden Freddie is in the building. As seen in multiple FNAF media, including the movie, a spirit doesn't need to be in the room to communicate with someone
Charlie is more likely to have died touching The Puppet than CC was with Fredbear. we literally see the moments surrounding Charlie's death, possibly even her exact moment of death, in the "Assigned Child" minigame; Puppet realizes she's outside and chases after her through the rain, only to collapse with its arms around her. additionally, Puppet's main motive was to protect this child at all costs, so they were linked before Charlie even died. CC didn't even die at a pizzeria, he died either at home or in a hospital, while in a coma which was the result of the Fredbear bite.
you might be onto something with the level of control thing, i just don't find your evidence compelling enough to believe in it myself. however, we do have other instances of multi-possession where the souls have differing levels of control. that's the whole progression of Ennard > Molten Freddy > Tangle. we also have the Stitchwraith, which isn't necessarily canon to the games, but it is another clear example of multiple souls sharing a body. additionally, your theory would help make sense of the fnaf 3 bad ending image, with the animatronic heads with the lights in them. i always thought the Fredbear mask had 2 lights in it until very recently (like a few minutes ago lmaooo). but if you look, the mask only has one, very bright light. the excess brightness could mean both that Cassidy is extra angry (she is the Vengeful Spirit which Michael should not have killed, after all) and that there's extra possession energy from CC being a secondary/weaker spirit.
i think you're right that the rules of possession aren't as simple as 'touching the animatronic upon death = possessing it', but i don't think we have enough information to narrow the rules down any further than that. my personal running theory is that it's more about the person's relation to the animatronic than anything physical. in the case of the original 5, they possess the suits because their bodies were hidden within them and not found for possibly weeks or months. Charlie possesses Puppet because Puppet was trying to protect her when she died. Elizabeth possesses Baby because she was made in Elizabeth's image, and the child loved her because of that. this line of thinking is the only one that applies to all the possessions that we have information on.
i wish we knew more about the DCI victims and the Toy animatronics for this reason. we don't even know for sure if they're possessed, let alone how their related victims died. but this only matters if those kids were killed separately from the animatronics, with no strong or consistent relation to them whatsoever, in which case it totally disproves my theory. whether the Toys are possessed or not, on its own, has no bearing on the theory. but knowing more - anything - about the DCI victims and their relationships with the Toys would immensely help in clearing up how possession works, and subsequently whether it's possible that CC is co-possessing Fredbear or not.
oddly related thought i just had: is it possible that the Toys were running the Mimic-1 program? that would have some pretty crazy implications for a lot of things lol, especially the idea of a Mimic-esque animatronic being possessed
My idea on how the crying child could end up in Fredbear: The Bite, or more specifically, its aftermath, when the bite happened, things like bone parts, skin, Blood, and Brain matter were likely splattered out, ending up all over Fredbear’s mouth. The remaining blood, brain matter, bone parts etc would allow him to possess Golden Freddy, since there were still pieces of him on Fredbear.
im a headass but i do role with the idea of cassidy being golden freddy, andrews nightmare and the shadows, and bite victim could be either fredbear or something else since i still can pin point bro for shit lol.
As far as we know the person has to be in close proximity if not touching the vessel it will go on to possess at the moment of death. BV doesn't die during the bite, but instead later when succumbing to the injuries. Even if some stray pieces were with Fredbear after the Bite, those wouldn't matter because they're not a part of him at the time he actually dies. Basically, if you lose a part of your body, but survive and then die later on, I doubt you'd suddenly possess whatever that lost piece of you is at, because that part of you became disassociated with what part of you lives prior, and therefore whatever the soul is wouldn't be with it anymore and therefore have nowhere to go from it. I doubt every cell of your being is always a conduit for your soul up until death. A timeframe would reasonably exist, and likely as short as it would take for a piece of you that's been lost to die off. I doubt any part of him that would be in Fredbear by the time of his death was still living.
This would also make the fact that he can’t move much make more sense because there isn’t a full body in there
@@vincentadamsvgai’ve never thought about it this way! my question to you is; if it DID come out that they’re both postering GF, do you think a reasonable explanation would be that (due to what you e stated) cassidy finds a way to crying child in his last few moments, security puppet style? decides it’s best to take him in rather than let him wander all alone? it might help memory stuff out more, and kinda goes with the stitchwraith equation a bit better. i’m not SAYING there’s two of em in there, im just tryna figure out how there would be if that were to be the case!
Except for the fact that the kid dies much later. It makes far more sense that CC had his neck broken. The spine is MUCH more delicate than the skull.
People really need to stop using the fnaf 3 bad ending as evidence for golden freddy having 2 spirits. There's only 1 light people💀
Yeah if you look closely, only one eye has the circular light coming from it, the mask’s right eye isn’t lit, it’s just the 1 lit eye lighting the mask
Exactly, happy more people are seeing this now
That, and the other heads have one light, and the light is somewhat illuminating the other eye socket. The golden Freddy head has one bright light that illuminates both eye sockets. Given the position the heads are, it does explain why it looks like there’s 1 light, and Golden Freddy is facing towards the viewer, which makes it look like there are 2 lights, when it’s just 1 that’s illuminating both eye sockets, when it’s just one light.
yeah.
I mean yeah it’s always looked like that, but when other evidence comes out it makes you rethink
P.s. I do agree with you. Give the UCN last ending, Golden Freddy moving is crazy, because we’ve never seen Golden Freddy physically move. His twitching is similar to how Afton got springlocked.
The reason Cassidy being vengeful to William, because William stuffed Cassidy in GF, the springlocks went off, making it agonizing even more.
As for why Cassidy was labeled as the princess and changed back to princess, it’s up for debate? 🤷🤔
It’s rather simple, clearly steelwool simply changes their mind with the princess name as it was changed as soon as people found it indicating that it should not be taken as canon. What the hell it actually means is a mystery onto itself but this is Fnaf so even the littlest crumbs of information are frustratingly unsolvable mysteries, especially if they came from security breach
Probably due to the princess representing Vanessa and the name Cassidy was just an Easter egg that the fans took too seriously.
Fair point
Maybe, or it was intended to be Cassidy, and steel wool didn’t want it to be revealed so soon, because they didn’t think about the fans going through the game files.
I think the princess is supposed to be a play on tropes as princesses in most fiction are supposed to be saved by the hero while this princess wields a sword and is more aggressive. If Cassidy is the princess it could mean that while Cassidy is both aggressive and protective they still need to be saved.
Additionally, In the UCN Fredbear voice line it sounds exactly as if he’s drowning.
7:40 love the plush legs lmao
Lmao I'm glad you noticed
Came to say this.
this makes quite a bit of sense, the entire mechanic for dealing with golden freddy is basically "don't look at it", the "it's me" doesn't help you, but it can make sense in the context of "no, it's me, look at me not that guy!"
then again, I also like the theories that CC is the one in golden freddy, his remnant/agony possessing the suit, but his body buried away, remember that the suit was dual-mode, it functioned as both performer suit, and animatronic suit, and while the possessors can manipulate the robot system, they can't full-on override, and later on the animatronic parts were removed outright, to repair other animatronics, leaving it as an emergency performer suit to replace freddy if need be, being unable to override, only manipulate, also explains fnaf3, remember, springtrap is forced to move to the rooms with the audio lure, with the laughter of a child, william CAN'T control that, if he was fully in control, he would not keep on following laughter of invisible children, even in security breach, the virus can only manipulate the animatronics, it cannot full on override, it makes them seek a lost child, something that's pre-programmed, and then causes whatever the jumpscare is, but we know from parts and service, that even "good ol' buddy" freddy will do the same attack if you mess up the repair, so that, too, would most likely be a "feature", in fnaf 1 & 2, also, each animatronic has specific patterns they do not stray from, e.g. they only ever enter from one side, they never wander to the other side, simply lost souls would not be sticking to such patterns, especially so if they do want to kill the nightguard, because even kids generally understand catching people by surprise works a lot better than being predictable
and the twitching suit in UCN can be explained as "the one" taunting william, who tried to preserve his son's life my shoving him into the suit, after all hope had already been lost, but only causing more pain
bear is golden and is freddy = golden freddy
thats who golden freddy is. stop trying to give him an identity crisis. He golden. he freddy
gold feddy
forcing the child-controlled robots into a fit of existentialism 😈
He golben feddi😊
"Normal one that we sprainted with gold paint"
- Rambley
Folden Greddy
21:08 something I just now noticed about the word search (somehow, because it's very obvious): "it's me" is almost written a LOT, it's all over the place. Usually broken up in the middle by an unrelated letter or 2. Assuming altered text (and therefore the crying child) did that, that's actually really sad. He's calling out to Mike with that classically Golden Freddy phrase, but for one reason or another he just can't quite get the words out.
I know a lot of people recently have started having doubts about Golden Freddy's dual possession we assumed for a while- I still believe it's the case, but I'm not gonna call anyone wrong. Just going on a little ramble about how a particular detail fits under my particular interpretation. :>
23:04 Yes, CC is never placed into Fredbear, BUT spirits in general typically are said to haul places or objects that ment a lot them. Wether it ment some good or bad, they'll presumably go back to it and haunt/possess it.
The thumbnail looks like Golden Freddy has gum stuck in his teeth. XD
Danganronpa blood lmao
Probably.
Golden Freddy wants chewing gum, his mouth stinks
Bro drinking that lean
Gum gum 🗿
In my oppinon It's Me is unrelated to Golden Freddy it appears in FNAF 1 and 2 often separately from Golden Freddy. So I always thought it either meant the kids in general telling Mike who they believe is Willam "It's us the kids you killed" or its Willam himself saying he did it
In the first games, maybe. But in later games, most of the time golden Freddy is mentioned or referenced, It’s Me is also there. So at the very least they are associated in some way.
I can see this cause in sister location Mike says they thought I was you
Here's what I think. Originally Golden Freddy was just the crying child. Just trying to reach out to his brother. Then in two we got a puppet. So Scott started expanding. By 3 and 4 C.C. was still Golden Freddy, but Scott needed to show the Charlie spirit moving on as well so he did the two eye things. At this point I do think Cassidy was crying child. Then the fandom went with this whole Cassidy is not the crying child, but another spirit. Originally it was supposed to be Charlie and Cassidy talking in the log book, but Scott heard what the fandom came up with and developed this whole "the one you should not have killed" kid. That's the retcon. The story evolved and Scott left enough room to change it per game. It wasn't originally this big convoluted mess. It was a story about a father that became a murderer. Let his son die, and abused the other one. Then It was Michaels story of revenge. A nice trilogy ending it on fire. Clean. In 4 he wanted to try and clear it up, but it only gave us more questions. That's when he started with the whole idea of a child with revenge thing, but I'm almost 100% sure that's not the original story. It wasn't that complicated in the beginning. "it's me Michael, your brother Cassidy"
Originally GF was one of Aftons victims. Since the first game the 5 missing children possessed the main 4 and Golden Freddy. Fnaf 4 just made everything confusing
respectfully disagree
@@logankrause4990 that's fine, but which part? No way Scott had this whole "vengeful spirit" thing drawn up from the beginning. That was added later as the story grew.
@@Bodharas the Bite Victim was made AFTER the OG trilogy (FNAF 1-3), which showed us that the 5TH MCI is Golden Freddy (GGGL).
I would also like to add that a common rule for FNAF is that if its the same thing throughout different media. And the one thing I keep seeing is one spirit in the suit. We have one spirit in the Silver eyes and one spirit in the FNAF Movie. So I think we need to need to apply this and may need to accept that there is one spirit in Golden Freddy in the Games as well. Which I do understand messes things up. But hey thats FNAF. Anyway thank you for reading my little ted talk.
YES PLS
Crying Child just doesn’t exist in the books though,neither does Mike Afton. Same with the movie,Afton’s only kid is Vanessa. So I wouldn’t immediately jump to that conclusion
@@WilliamAaronTheYapmaster Perhaps, but the sequel might reveal that the blonde boy was Vanessa's brother Cassidy. Then that would cause more people to connect that the Crying child is Cassidy.
@@zenvariety9383So Afton offed his son in the movie?
@@Lightning-gg5iu I haven't watched the movie, but I have watched vids from the film theorists on it. I'm just saying that William might have put his son in the Golden Freddy suit after Vanessa pulled a prank on her brother that involved his head getting bitten. However, that would have been after offing the other 4 kids and noticing how the animatronics got possessed. However, that desperation and insanity probably caused his son to die via springlocking.
that cat is so happy holy shit
genuinely don't know if you're using him for the content or if he's using you for the brushes but I feel like he's winning
The green freddy in the corner in fnaf 3 is confiermed to be shadow freddy due to the files calling him "shadow freddy"
I thought he was called "crumbled Freddy suit" in that one? Or was that a different book?
@@Limomon oh no i meant the fnaf 3 game files no the ultimate guide ( the 3rd guide book in the freddy files series) and he is indeed called that in the ultimate guide but u could say that the fnaf 3 veriant of shadow freddy is called crumpled freddy
But he’s very clearly not purple. Which would be fine except we see Shadow Freddy in the cutscenes and he’s purple. My interpretation is he’s just a springlocked Freddy’s employee. Thanks to phone guy,we know Freddy’s had springlocks while Fredbear’s was open so this is probably one of them
@@WilliamAaronTheYapmaster The FNAF 3 office has this green lighting superimposed onto it. If you remove this lighting, then the crumpled suit becomes purple, and so it is Shadow Freddy.
@@ahusky4498 Does it? No,God,no,my bloody timeline is ,well,actually gonna be fine. But now I have to find the identity of the second Freddy’s springlock suit. Actually,it could just be the Freddy suit you’re stuffed into in fnaf 1’s death scenes.
Michael Brooks said It's Me to Carlton in The Silver Eyes.
Basically implying that Michael was within' Golden Freddy, I believe that the "It's Me" texts we see in FNaF 1, independitly of who says that, it's to tell Michael that the MCI is within' the animatronics, as their bodies were never found.
Incredibly solid theory, and one of my favorite interpretations of Crying Child that ive seen.
My personal take on CC is that he becomes a sort of poltergeist after he dies since he couldn't attach to anything. His memories influence the pizzerias that he wanders (like toy chica's beak getting lost in fnaf 2, or the constant 'ITS ME') but he doesn't possess anything specifically.
This could also be why golden freddy is so much more ghost-like in nature, not only does it have an immense amount of agony from Cassidy, but CC's memories would impact golden freddy the most, since fredbear was both his best friend and what killed him in the end. It's not just a possessed suit but a suit being influenced by CC, likely subconsciously, as an outside force.
I really like this theory, it aligns with the preconceived ideas and thoughts that I had about the spirits. I also want to add that in the movie, it is a missing children's victim that haunts golden Freddy, meanwhile Michael seems to have a spiritual connection in his dreams with his brother (Garrett - a supposed crying child parallel) which supports the theory that he would be experiencing both supernatural hauntings from the MCI spirits (particularly Cassidy) as well as his brother simultaneously and separately.
Things I think about golden Freddy.
1. I’m personally under the belief that golden Freddy no longer has spirits inside of him, in happiest day crying child’s soul is freed, and if the theory about the princess quest princess being Cassidy is true then I think her soul has possessed the games code, however even though golden Freddy is no longer possessed I think he’s still haunted by the agony of both crying child and vengeful spirit.
2. I think it’s possible that golden Freddy is just an astral projection of fredbear used by either crying child or vengeful spirit.
3. If the stitchwraith is meant to teach us about golden Freddy then I think it’s possible at first crying child is in control and Cassidy only takes over when Evan’s spirit is put to rest during happiest day.
4. If fnaf world is charlottes doing then I think it’s very possible after happiest day crying child might be helping her in some way.
5. I think the reason Cassidy/the vengeful spirit hates William so much and torments William by putting him through animatronic challenges is because before her death William may have done something similar to her and tormented her before he killed her.
Something I think nobody has considered, what if the 5 kids William killed were at a birthday party, and it was the Golden Freddy’s spirit’s birthday?
@@keeganguyer5237 I think it was confirmed in the FNAF 1 missing children reports that the MCI kids were killed at different time intervals, with the last 2 being killed together.
I think you bring up a really good point with 3, especially since the person controlling the stitchwraith varies throughout the stories. I don’t necessarily agree with everything but I think that point and 5 have some really strong evidence to support them
1. Not a chance, Vengeful spirit is still kicking William's butt (Maybe CC already left but it seems Scraptap repairments were the last nail of William's live coffin)
2. Half answer, it is a springlock suit with the ability of projection (I've been asking for years about Golden Freddy's location and NO ONE knows)
Cassidy might be getting vengeance for Crying child in a similar way to how William made crying child experience all those nightmares. Because Crying Child still loves their dad even tho he tormented him (think abuse victim). You know who takes vengeance on abusers? Typically a friend of the victim instead of the victim themself. Cassidy probably also took crying childs soul into golden freddy to protect him just like how they protect all the other victims.
The "pet me" nibble from the kitty at 2:32 was adorable
22:20 I think it's completely possible for Cassidy in golden Freddy to be saying "it's me" to Michael because as we saw at the end of sister location, "they thought I was you". Cassidy could've mistaken Michael for William because they look so similar. "It's me, the one you should not have killed."
what if the vengeful spirit isn't on golden freddy, which explains why andrew wears a alligator mask
This is genuinely my favourite golden Freddy theory, a scared child known for sobbing all the time finding what he thinks is his comfort toy in the afterlife with him and clinging to that so strongly as he has no idea or clue what else to do is so sad and resonates so much more than just ‘alt colour bear have 2 soul’
incredible work
rly nice counterpoint to the cc/cassidy theory with the clue pages all having Faded's "MY NAME" on them
i personally still think golden freddy is a duo of cc and cassidy because i rly think thats what the stitchwraith story is trying to tell us, but this video is the most valid other theory ive seen (in my opinion)
Yes I also believe that the stitchwraith is literally giving us clues on how golden works. Ppl are always saying that Andrew himself is TOYSHK which makes no sense at all. We literally have no evidence of him in the game unlike Cassidy who we see in the logbook and in trilogy novels and also being The princess in SB and using ITP a spin-off game based on the FF novel for Andrew is not good evidence.
I really like this theory Rye! but it does exacerbate a small problem i've always had with the logbook.
Assuming that as seems most likely, Cassidy is faded's name, why/how does Crying Child (altered) know that? especially when he doesn't seem to know much about anything at all? I say this theory exacerbates that since surely CC would answer to faded something like Fredbear or Freddy if he were sticking to Golden Freddy for the reasons you suggested.
2:05 i went on a scavenger hunt online and apparently, in the game files, that suit is referred to as shadow freddy
I know it's not super strongly backed now that we're reasonably sure Mike Schmidt isn't Purple Guy, but I've always preferred the theory that "It's Me" is the Vengeful Spirit yelling at their killer. As little sense as it makes these days, I've simply always liked it more than anything else
I think we can assume that Mike Schmidt is Michael Afton. By doing this it makes understanding "it's me" better. I feel like the animatronics are trying to remind "their killer" of the atrocity that they witnessed by saying its me. This could also explain why the death screens show your player shoved into a spare freddy suit as they're doing what they saw.
@@chaosv1123 MIchael Afton wasn't the killer, that would be his father William
They mistake him for being William perhaps, like the Funtimes did in SL
@@cheesypizzajokes oh yeah, very fitting
If the puppet was possessed without having Charlie’s body inside of it, why can’t golden Freddy have CC?
That’s not the problem, the Puppet collapses on top of Charlie’s body almost immediately after she dies, CC go’s into a coma and live’s long enough to be hooked up to a heart monitor and die’s either in the hospital or in his house well away from Fredbear
@@razer4472 (the peices of brain matter on Fredbears mouth after the bite)
@@Gaming_nerd1987 …What.
@@Gaming_nerd1987 Pieces of brain matter that aren't attached to him at the time of death. Your soul is with the part of you that's alive, not dying pieces that are no longer attached to you. For example, if you lose a foot and then die later on, you're going to possess something in the vicinity of where you are if you possess anything in the first place or just pass on straight away, not where your detached already dead or dying foot is. Your soul wouldn't split apart prior to being dead.
@@Gaming_nerd1987you're just trying to find the weirdest explanations at this point.
Honestly, I still can't shake off the feeling that Crying Child somehow, in some way, resides inside fredbear, and is even present in the ultimate custom night, either as a vengeful spirit or not, since in UCN, there are MANY fnaf world references, references that Cassidy wouldn't possibly know, since I think that fnaf world is Crying Child and whoever is Psychic Friend Fredbear(In my vision, both charlie and william, but only charlie in fnaf world), Cassidy can't possibly be the fredbear plush, they died in 1985, the plush was already strange in 1983, and the nightmare animatronics are experiments made by william on either kidnapped kids, or like I believe, Crying Child, Cassidy can't possibly know how they look like, Mike only drew Nightmare Fredbear/Nightmare in the logbook, wich is why he appears in fnaf VR. I do think yellow eyes is meant to be the fredbear plush, since they say the exact same lines, plus, if the crying child didn't possess anything, "I will put you back together" coming right at his "death" (I say "Deah" because a flatline dosen't always mean death, it could be just that the body was disconnected from the heart thing.), and (if you believe) said by William Child-Stuffer-inside-animatronics-Expert himself, or by Puppet the giving-life-to-dead-children-through-animatronics-expert, you'd think they'd make him possess something, and "The spirit follows the flesh", the bite seems like something that would clearly leave some blood or remains in fredbear's mouth, when I look at UCN, I can't help but think that UCN was clearly made by William afton's son, or at least had part of him. And why when we death coin golden freddy, we get an actual jumpscare from fredbear? Not just a look like we normally do with golden freddy jumpscares? And why specifically Fredbear? And Jake possesses something without being close to it, he only needed strong emotions towards that thing, why can't crying child do the same?
Edit: Also, Cassidy is often depicted as a female in a lot of continuities, but the spirit possessing fredbear and "The Vengeful Spirit" are always boys, and in the UCN, there are animatronics who refer to TOYSNHK as "He" (I don't think they're referring to the Golden Freddy animatronic, they seem to be talking about the kid william killed.)
Edit number 2: In the movie, there's a detail I don't see many people talk about, but in the drawing abby makes to reveal to the children that afton is the bad guy, she draws every missing kid....except the blonde boy. Instead, she draws a dark-haired boy, with a red shirt, this leads me to believe that the blonde kid is not real, and is just a projection of the spirit of Garret, like what happens in the book "The New Kid", and the true possessor of Golden Freddy is Garret schmidt, the paralel of the crying child in the movies.
Edit number 3: Also, there are lines in ucn that ties back to c.c, like "We know who our friends are, and you are NOT one of them." and "Let me take you apart and put you back together"
Yay im following you
18:49
For me, FNAF Lore or Timeline are like a big complex puzzle without clear picture. You are given many pieces, some of them have colors and some of them are blank. All puzzles don't have any stable shape, they can just fit in each other differently. Some of them fits perfectly, some of them fits a little harder or don't even fit. You can built almost full picture but many pieces are missing and you have to use blank pieces, drawing on them the picture you think should be to continue collecting it. In the end, everyone gets different full picture, or like 3d Shape idk. Some of them look pretty and solid, but some of them can be very fragile and awful, depending how person built it. But there would be never a real original picture, for now at least. It supposed to be individual for everyone.
Alright, I think my yapping went a little too far. Great video overall.😁
I do really like this theory but I genuinely have no idea what Scott could’ve been getting at when writing the Stitchwraith story if Golden Freddy didn’t have two spirits inside. Sometimes I just wish I could read his mind and know what he was thinking lol
what if golden Freddy, like the fun times, is confusing Mike for William. so when golden Freddy says "it's me" it isn't "it's me, your brother" but "it's me, the one you should not have killed"
That's how I've looked at it too
Holy guacamole I never thought about it like that before. That's pretty good
the narrative you put together at the end made me really emotional,, CC being lost and alone then clinging to a spirit that reminds him of his fredbear plush T^T
One of the reasons I think golden Freddy is the v.s is because he isn’t like the others, he glitches, he twitches, and he appears on screen, manipulating your vision.. does that not seem like someone brutally murdered and seeking revenge, I mean Michael does look like his father, plus why would c.c make Michael see the mci poster, he isn’t apart of them. Why would c.c hate William? And how would he mistaken his own brother as his father, he can’t, what he uses to communicate with faded text is the logbook, which is given to Mike and signed by him, the stichwraith mentions 2 souls… ONE BRUTALLY MURDERED, AND THE OTHER DYING IN THE HOSPITAL.. that’s exactly how “Cassidy” and “c.c” died, although c.c’s death wasn’t caused in the hospital, he died there just like Jake, and Andrew is a clear parallel to Cassidy, both were brutally murdered and are trying to get back at the one who killed them, isn’t that a clear reference to ucn? Who else was killed (by dear willy) other than the 5 missing kids (that we rlly know of?) gab, fritz and jeremy, there is not a whole lot about them, Susie is Crystal clear and does not seem to be holding any anger, so who could it be? The 5th missing child, the only one put into an already used and broken animatronic.. it makes sense why Cassidy is more vengeful, not only did he kill her, he also put her into a broken animatronic while the rest got ones that get special treatment.
17:05 oh my god undeniably canon WAS CORRECT
They always are
This is a really good video, but if I'm being honest I had a hard time paying attention to anything you were saying. I was too distracted by how happy your cat looked getting its hair brushed.
Fair enough, simply watch it again and give me another view LOL
@@RyeToast Will do.
But golden Freddy is probably in suit mode when we see it no?
It explains why he can't move and only appears in our office as he does
Edit: when Fazbear disposed of the bodies they probably put golden freddy back into suit mode and out of animatronic mode, explaining why he can no longer move.
I always preferred the april fools "John Conner" theory:
That the nightguard and golden freddie are the same person. . . but golden freddie is from the future and is lost and confused. When he sees his past self before he dies "IT'S ME! OMG IT'S ME!!!!" Thank you ballpit, very cool.
It's the best joke-theory out there.
The problem i have with cassisy bwing faded text is: cc is altered text. What is the point in making a puzzle about learning someones name involving the most unnamed character in the franchise only to have the solution to the puzzle be the mame of a new character entirely. Yes, cc does seem intrested in faded name. But mike provides the final clue to cassidys name. Why would he know random kids name when his brother is right there. If you are right and tge conversation is to help both faded and cc recall their name you would have to prove that there is a second name. Or else the most reasonable assumption is that cassidy is cc.
By god that thumbnail… you have an amazing artist
This has literally been my interpritation for so long and im so glad a creator is on the same wavelength.
Also there is no world anyone can convince me the FNAF 3 Bad Ending light in Golden Freddy's head isn't just one light and a creator like MatPat said he saw two and its become a common misconseption
This sound too complicated to be the truth so I am not bough. the main thing about cassidy being a random kid and the one torturing afton just feels so.... idk... cheap?, unrewarding?. It feels worng idk... like following a detective story for the end of the story be said "oh, you remember all this time we have spent with this characters? none of them is the killer, is this random dude that one day appeared and that we have not known much about until now), so yeah, the its me not being connected and its just "no, its the crying child that feels better when golden freedy is around" loses me so quick, but nice theory.
Crazy idea. So in Sister Location Mike says the funtimes thought he was William, so what if “it’s me” is Cassidy taunting what they think is William (but it’s actually) Mike . And maybe after being ignored so much that’s why in UCN instead of “me” it’s “the one you should not have killed”
Why Gators?
Old man Consequences looks like a gator
We had the child in the gator mask 8-bit games
And for all the characters that Afton could have included alongside the established species of the foundational characters...a Gator.
My theory is Fallfest is Afton's most uninformed, unskilled, kill. And when he couldn't dispose of them, and panicked, he fed them to the Gator in the lake. Lost spirits will often wander...maybe through this kill, and the body was buried in the woods.
It's why I think he feels more HAUNTED than he is STALKED
These events didn't change him, but they live in his mind and he sees it through golden freddy because it was his first project after fallfest.
I've been telling for a year about William's first victim and I concur, he unalived someone way before of the events FNAF (Not sure if this goes way before of Fallfest)
But Utah doesn’t have any gators? And the games take place in Utah, right?
@@keelyrey64 my thoughts being the gator being a feature of the festival, much in the way some would have petting zoos or lizard exhibits. The gator william fed his victim to being something he experienced in the context of the fall fest environment, bringing the character to mind when building fazbear entertainment and the branching cast of characters?
@@Friendowo that doesn’t make any sense though. With Utah fall weather, the Gator wouldn’t be eating while it brumates.
Even in Texas, reptile brumation begins around mid-October, depending on temps that year, but typically lasts until February-March, again depending on temps.
@@24Ippo "unalived" is not a grammatically correct word. Just say he killed someone in the context of these fictional stories and it's gonna be fine.
A theory that I’m not sure is my own but one that’s come to mind is that CC never went to the hospital, instead going down below the fnaf 4 house where Afton can try to “put him back together” himself, he fails, and buries the body in the woods because he is attempting to cover the incident up, to try to save Mike or his business?
To me this explains the woods burial, the med equipment in a normal bedroom, maybe even fredbear plush saying “I will put you back together” being Aftons voice as he finally fails and CC dies under his care, and after doing whatever he does to CC, he disguards the body in the woods leaving it lost and leaving his son “missing” It goes along with Ryes theory of him wandering in and near his home
(1:06) Hot take: YellowBear is a better than than Golden Freddy. It sounds more cryptic.
i’m sorry but no
@@ZetaHVH
Why not? I think it’s a better name than Golden Freddy, cause he’s yellow, not gold.
I've always kinda thought the name "Golden Freddy" sounded like an extra skin character you could get in one of those gambling mobile games. Made it funnier when those Freddy variations in AR became a thing, bro fits right in. 😂
@@mylam658
Never thought of that. You reminded me of that official Roblox that had a Gold Freddy skin with red eyes. There was an old fan animation in a style inspired by South Park, where YellowBear had red eyes. A little off-topic, but it was a topic that lead into another topic, that lead into another topic. Lost? don’t blame you.
Before the video. That thumbnail slaps, great job to the artist!
I wonder if people forget that all of this shit is sort of speculation we still dont even know if freddy IS golden or just yellow
He yellow but the nick name is Golden Freddy bc he look like Freddy
13:57 I’m pretty sure it is said in the first novel that *all* the children ”died in the suits”, meaning that they were killed by the process of being stuffed like Phone Guy and the other implied security guards were
Plot twist: Golden Freddy is just a dude named Fred who just died by gamer rage in an arcade and blamed William for losing.
i just noticed how many "its me" texts are in the cross word on the survival book
Teehee yellow bear
True
My biggest problem, as always, with FNAF theories, is that people try to fit together clues that are years apart, sometimes even media apart, erasing the probable original meaning of those clues back in the day.
Looking at FNAF 1, for example. We know Scott didn't intent to make another game after this one. What do we learn here ? That there was a bit in 1987 back when the animatronics could walk during day time. So we play a couple of years after the incident. We learn that the animatronics are at least 20 years old and they never get washed. We learn that a missing person report will be filled in the 90 days after the discovery od death or hurt, probably after the evidence were covered to protect the business. We learn that the animatronics will see us as endoskeletons and try to put us into a suit. We learn that the best way to escape that fate is by playing dead, getting all limp where we stand. But that could also mean we're missing our endo so back to the original problem. In his last call, phone guy is asking us to check the check the costumes in the back room, just in case, because he's being attacked. We learn about kids being lured by a person dressed as an animatronic, caught on cameras and arrested, but the bodies were never found. We learn that the pizzeria is closing years after the incident, and of the mascotts leaking blood and mucus, getting the attention of health service. We also know that safety rules aske kids not to get close to Freddy, to stay close to mom. And it seems a handprint can be seen on Freddy's head if you're looking for it.
So, we learned about 2 types of incidents : one being 5 kids getting missing, lured in the back room of the restaurant before being hidden in the suits, only being discovered some time after thanks to people eating at the pizzeria. That part explain why the animatronics the way they do and why they want to stuff us into those suits. And, since they are only 4 active at night, it's easy to assume someone was stuffed inside Golden Freddy as well. His position could lined up with the "play dead" part, to not be seen. But on the other hand, Golden Freddy is trying to get our attention by spaming "it's me" in our face. This happened years before we look out for the place. And it's implied the company will cover its back by not noticing the problem right away or planning back up cover like the animatronics being smelly because they're old and never washed.
And then, there is the bite of 87, implied to have happened during the day, probably to a kid, years before. And Freddy was probably the one responsible, or even Golden Freddy. It would explain the "it's me", the fact that he doesn't appear normally as part of the gang, being a spare to Freddy.
The interesting point is phone guy mentioning the bite of 87, like it's something everybody know, but the missing child incident is hidden away, despite the company ready to be closed off. Like, someone getting hurt by an animatronic is plane light, only changes the animatronics setting, but kids being killed by someone using a suit, the whole place closed off ? By that point, it's easy to assume the murderer was one of the employee, that was covered at first before being thrown under the bus. It's difficult to know which even happened first, since only the bite is dated. Maybe it happened during the missing child incident, since i took years to put an end to the pizzeria, and it only added to the problem. Like, the bite is what make the boss help the police sinc it couldn't be hidden so easily.
Overall, the "it's me" could mean a lot of things : the victim of the bite, the culprit of the bite, the murderer, the person watching the place... All we can deduce from later game, up to FNAF 4, is that the spirit inside the golden suit doesn't need to taken apart to scare purple guy into hiding into the golden bonnie suit, that there was a kid injured by a golden bear during the day, even if the date don't add up, that we're looking to make a golden freddy masked child to move on at some point, surrounded by animatronics masked kids that could be the missing child incident kids, along with the puppet, absent from FNAF 1.
The way I see it, the bite became the focus of FNAF 2, 3 and 4 more than the missing children incident. We play in 1987 in FNAF 2, we're helping the spirits move on in FNAF 3 and we litterally saw the bite happening in FNAF 4 (the dream theory being irrelevant here). So, to me, as the games went on, the Crying Child was intended to be the victim of the 87 bite, the one we must focused on the most, because, in a sense, he suffered the most. And I'll stand by the fact that the missing children were supposed to be the bullies responsible for his death. Then, the Silver Eyes trilogy decided to focus on the missing children incident at first, then on how you could trick people to make them see what you want with the Twisted Ones, before shifting to making robots that can pass as human with the Fourth Closet. As for Sister Location, it went in yet another direction with the Fun Times animatronics, that are completely the Twisted Ones from the novel, focusing more on William Afton and his daughter we never knew about before, making Baby a central point of the story as we saw in the Fourth Closet. And so on fro the game that followed, and the books as well.
To me, Golden Freddy isn't an important part of the lore anymore, that story has ended almost 10 years ago. Is it perfect ? No, there are a lot of stuff that don't add up, but it's been like this since FNAF 2 that makes strong argurments for Mangle being responsible for the Bite of 87, or the bite itself being moved to 83. The important thing is what make sense as a whole, what the clues leads to. FNAF 4 was supposed to be the last one, or at least the "Final Chapter" quote implies the 4 first games have a connected story. If you only look at the games, it's difficult to even make sense of Dream Theory, Scott had to steped in. So yeah, I'm not a fan of the outside clues coming from other medium like the Security Log Book, because we shouldn't need it to make sense of the games. That's how people get confused, when you when to invest your time and energy to 50 different pieces to make a believable guess. And let's be honnest, I hate that "the one you shouldn't have killed" quote, for what it's implying. And assuming Cassidy died in a spring lock suit, she should be the most happy William died the same way, especially if she's the one to push him to hide in there. And the whole thing about happiest day and the picture showing the spirits having moved on, no lights in their eyes alltogether.
Anyway, I don't disagree with your theory, it makes a lot of sense, but I don't like because I don't think everything can be tied together with this franchise ^^ Have a nice day !
Very Good. I will believe this theory until you come up with a totally new one next month
Thank you 🙏
Also something worth pointing out, in the New Kid, while Kelsey is getting Springlocked in Golden Freddy, the text literally describes his blood as pooling into a red lake that begins to move towards Devon as he watches in horror and numb shock.
I personally disagree. Crying Child WOULD have seen his body,he died right there out in the open. Why would his soul be lost? Also,his head was crushed,I guarantee his blood was inside that suit which gives him the perfect connection to possess the suit. Also,I assume his fear,sadness and pain likely were infused into the Fredbear suit as he got bit. Also,they’re just ghosts,like,they can possess whatever they want. I trust Occam and his razor on this one,we were showed him being killed by Fredbear because he possesses it.
2:10 and *I* argue it’s one of the Freddy Fazbear springlock suits that phone guy mentions.
2:43 and I theorise that it’s Mike Afton being tortured by CC’s spirit which William fused into the nightmares using sadness and fear (all emotions CAN work like agony,agony is just the strongest)
Let’s also not forget that Fredbear could ONLY have been possessed by CC,by the time One He Shouldn’t Have Killed came along,it had most likely already decayed into Golden Freddy. So death coin Fredbear could mean CC is part of UCN (which could link to CC being Glitchtrap but that’s another can of worms)
While it’s a good theory,I personally prefer the theory that LEFTY was built out of Golden Freddy. I mean,LEFTY was literally built to hold something humanoid and fuse with it. Springlock suits hold humanoid things and springlock failures fuse the Endoskeleton with the body. Plus,they’re both secret fifth more lore important second bear members of an animatronic band. You could even throw in the whole golden left eye thing Dual Process Theory pointed out
I still think Faded is CC and Altered is TOYSHK. Which is funny because it’s the opposite reasoning of the Dual Process theory but it comes to the same conclusion. CC is Cassidy Afton. I don’t see how else faded would know things from the fnaf 4 house or personal things about Michael like his favourite ride or toy as a kid. I think that proves how open this series is to theorising.
As someone that lowkey is using Dual Process' video as personal headcanon now (because I crave nothing more than Narrative Satisfaction™), I love this take as well. Finally frames the close connection of Cassidy and Crying Child (as two separte kids) in a way that makes sense in a satisfying and story appropriate way.
This makes the most sense- besides people have been always settled on Cassidy and C.C being to separate kids, or maybe it can be the other way around where CC is Cassidy and the 5th missing kids name is unknown
"It's Me, The One You Shouldn't Have Killed, Come Find Me
CC: "hey that's my line"
Golden freddy having "rainy day" in fnaf world makes me think about those foot prints in midnight motorist and how golden freddy visits abby in the movie. The Alone together story also touches on how there are some ppl that have a special ability to see ghosts... idk seems connected
Rye cooked with this one
Honestly I'm surprised how little people have thought about a springlock failure being how Afton killed the vengeful spirit considering all this evidence. That being said, I certainly never thought of it myself, and it definitely makes a lot of sense why that would separate him from the others and cause him to become so vengeful and vindictive.
What does the crying child do after golden Freddy get dismantled?
Amazing theory btw
Goes back to being lost until Charlotte and the others help him with FNAF world
Ok thanks
Cassidy overcomplicates everything for no reason. They were introduced too late to really fit in to the MCI. Instead, they feel like they were crammed in so that the story could keep going after Happiest Day.
I love the idea that William was trapped in an eternal hell by one of his victims, but an entirely new character who retroactively "existed the whole time?" Why?
I feel like other characters could have played the role of tormentor. Michael was strung along, witnessing his father's every crime and bearing the consequences for crimes he didn't commit. Henry feels immense guilt for his role in everything, continuing his revenge-fueled justice after death. Charlie, arguably another "one who [he] should not have killed." She presumably witnessed the murders as the Puppet as well, so I can see her tormenting him to near-death.
I really really wish the crying child ends up being the vengeful spirit
I agree.
His death started everything and him being forgotten till Happiest Day in FNAF 3 and of course his backstory in FNAF 4 (from the lore timeline) is just extremely sad.
Yes I agree that the chance of him possessing Golden Freddy is low in comparison to Cassidy but in my opinion he deserves to be the Vengeful Spirit.
Williams creation ended his life and his promise to CC to put him back together never got real.
I think that's a good reason to be a vengeful spirit.
@@GermanMapping it would just make sense since he is the only afton that actually appears but ends up being useless and it seems like all aftons that were shown ended up being antagonists (except michael because there needed to be a protagonist). William being William, springtrap and scraptrap. Elizabeth being circus baby, ennard and scrap baby. Michael is one of the antagonists of fnaf 4 but then became the protagonist. And then crying child being yellow bear, golden freddy (i call fnaf one golden freddy yellow bear) and the vengeful spirit would've made a lot more sense. Although some might say that the vengeful spirit isn't really an antagonist since he's giving karma to William and that's good, but in UCN we play as William so the vengeful spirit could be considered an antagonist. In my humble opinion, i really don't like cassidy being the vengeful spirit
its been established that contact with the bots can cause possession. Charlie wasn't stuffed into the puppet for example, or jake possessing Simon despite being carted away after passing from his tumor. Golden Freddy doesn't have the crying child just the 5th vicitm but my counter argument to the word search is when it says "it's me" and "cassidy" it also says "what is your name" so altered text could be introducing themselves and asking them that question. also faded text early in the book asks the question too. so i am on the cassidy is crying child side of the camp. they're more important to the story and having a name for all the aftons would be logical.
I forgot to talk about this with you, but I really love the theory/idea of Andrew being springlocked. Since springlocking is agonizing as hell, it would make sense on why Andrew make so vengeful.
I agree that Golden Freddy is just the 5th missing child & that's it. We've just been overcomplicating things with our headcanons & such.
To add a few extra notes:
Andrew is almost certainly NOT Golden Freddy. He wears an alligator mask, not a yellow bear mask. The New Kid has a kid with curly black hair in the Golden Freddy suit, but I don't think that really means much. Devon is also described as having messy black hair, so I think it's just a projection of HIS body as a trap Kelsey or Eleanor set up.
As for why Andrew is so vengeful, the epilogues actually spell it out to us. Andrew is described as having never known love, so it's safe to assume that he's so vengeful because he genuinely doesn't know how to be positive. Not necessarily because he was killed brutally. So if Cassidy is the Vengeful Spirit in the games, she's probably in a similar situation.
Here's something that pi$$es me off. Whenever some one refer's to the MCI & that CC is the only soul in Golden Freddy, they say "William said his son went missing aswell" ... *B*TCH HE DIED INFRONT OF MULTIPLE PEOPLE & THERE'S ALSO CHARLIE WHO WENT MISSING*
The crying child was comatose though. So it's possible that William did sneak his son out and try to put him into the Fredbear suit only for it to springlock on him. So William could have claimed that his son went missing.
This is first video ive seen by you. And as much as i like to think that crying child is in golden freddy, it makes so much more sense for him to be a lost spirit. It still doesnt explain the 2 glowing eyes in the bad ending of fnaf 3 though. Great Theory, ill absolutely keep watching them
Michael had agony. We keep overlooking his pain of losing family members and the lack of love for him from his father which lead him being jealous and even vengeful to the lack meaning he had thought he lost in his family.
But once he put Cassidy into Fredbear came a manifesting agony inside of Fredbear that Michael was running away from, which made him grow to despise that he couldn’t do anything with little strength that he had to keep his family safe and so he decided to trust in the process of being scooped.
He get’s scooped looked more like his father, purple and dead looking, but with a soul too strong to just give out.
Especially when he had the will to follow his own father’s every step leading up to SB Ruin.
Another good point i saw some other people pointing out about the log book is that the altered text didnt alter the text to spell out cassidy, altered text spelt out "its me" and some other sentences in the book while cassidy was scatered around the crossword
You didn't really go into happiest day at all, which happens to be the only reason I would disagree with this theory
Ah my b. Imo happiest day happens at the end of FNAF world, letting CC move on
My main disagreement is that CC wouldn’t forget who he is. I mean,his body was right there. He’d have no reason to forget himself. I also just kinda don’t trust Alone Together. I mean,wouldn’t William forget who is by that book’s logic?
@@RyeToastbut then why would CC have the GF mask? Honestly,I think happiest day is just the missing kids.Shouldn’t Have Killed came back after FNAF 6 to sucker punch Afton repeatedly (also,if I remember correctly, Scott’s a Christian so it could literally just be hell)
@@WilliamAaronTheYapmaster simple it’s kinda the same reason why micheal had a foxy mask as despite never possessing him, CC is linked to Freafbear/goldeb Freddy even if CC doesn’t possess a animatronic
@@foxythe9402 Yeah but Mike was physically wearing in the real world,these are souls.
Cool concept, but i feel like the theory boils down to "no no cc isn't possessing golden freddy with Cassidy, cc is just hanging out with Cassidy (and by extension Golden Freddy)" like this isn't Golden duo it's Golden buddies if that makes sense.
Regardless it's a cool theory and concept and I want to reiterate that in case anyone finds this, and gets angry at me
11:51 liar liar pants on fire
OOP thanks for the catch. Fixing it now
This is probably my favorite interpretation of golden Freddy, and it makes the most sense to me, the others always feel just a little off
Golden Freddy himself is not Vengeful Spirit. That's why Fredbear's voice sounds nothing lie Vengeful Spirit. Cassidy is also shown being told to leave Afton to his demons (UCN), implying she was not on board with UCN. That's why she drowns/rests. She did not like the idea of keeping Afton alive, but knew she would not be able to convince Vengeful Spirit to stop, so she just rests.
UCN's ending actually shows Cassidy following OMC's advise, and resting her soul as Afton is left to his demons in UCN. We know this because it's the exact opposite of the FNAF 3 trailer shot showing Afton's refusal to move on. Instead of zooming in as the music intensifies, Golden Freddy slowly fades away to dull music. Because Cassidy is resting.
Fredbear in UCN, like the other characters in UCN's roster, is just a reflection of the past. Which is why the music for the roster is "Eisoptrophobia", the fear of mirrors. The death coin effects him differently due to the Fredbear suits importance to Afton's past, which is what UCN is punishing him for.
Before UCN, Afton is told the gates of Hell have opened to swallow him whole, and to not keep the Devil waiting, obviously foreshadowing Afton being confused by UCN, Afton's personal Hell.
You know another place from FNAF meant to symbolize Hell? The realm of Old Man Consequences, where, coincidentally, we hear William Afton screaming in Agony. As OMC tells Cassidy to leave Afton to his demons. OMC, being an entity based around consequences, would represent the Devil, meaning OMC is most likely behind UCN. OMC is even in the roster, implying he is from Afton's past.
In the same Game, Deedee, who is associated with fishing and FNAF World like OMC, is seen having control over UCN, and taunting Afton.
Then, TMIR1280, which is shown to be a direct continuation of FFPS and UCN, shows Vengeful Spirit being a male (like in UCN), a kid we didn't know about (like UCN revealers with the 7th victim of Chica) wearing a Gator mask (like OMC), and a shadow form (like Deedee's Xor form).
As for why Andrew is associated with what might be a Montgomery Gator mask (The Steel Wool Games thematically tying Monty to Fredbear and Springbonnie), it might be the same reason Andrew speaks through the MMs, who we see as masks at Fredbear's in FNAF 3. Even if Andrew was stuffed into a Fredbear suit, he himself is not Golden Freddy, Cassidy is.
So instead, Andrew, Afton's forgotten victim, is associated with Fredbear's forgotten characters.
Even the name Old Man Consequences could be a double meaning for the character being the consequences of an old man, Afton.
As for why Andrew is the most angry, both UCN and Frights eludes to the reason. UCN's story has many thematic parallels to FNAF 4, Bear Of vengeance supporting this. It's about a kid tied to Fredbear in some way tormenting an Afton who killed them with Nightmares.
Nightmare, who is is tied to the Nightmare Facility, states "the Shadow fears me", the Shadow being what Andrew is referred to in TMIR1280 due to his shadow form. That means the Shadow is in UCN, that most likely being Xor/Deedee. This implies the one behind UCN is scared of specifically Nightmare.
UCN potentially canonizes most of the FNAF 4 DLC Characters. Nightmaronne himself seemingly having importance to the story.
The realm of OMC, who I have already establish is connected to Andrew, and where Afton is seemingly being tormented, is very reminiscent of the FNAF 4 menu, is shown to be tied to Garrett's memories, and is in the basement of FNAF World, like the Nightmare Facility was under Afton's home.
Andrew while speaking through Nedd Bear says "this is how it feels, and you get to experience it over, and over, and over again". This implies Andrew has been put through something similar to UCN, and FNAF 4.
In Frights, Andrew states that UCN was Andrew wanting to make Afton suffer like he suffered, further-more implying Andrew went through something like UCN because of Afton.
And then, in "Dittophobia", the name of Rory, a Nightmare Facility Kid, means "Red King". While I do think King OMC from the SW Games is the Mimic, it still does further-more tie OMC and Andrew to the Nightmare Facility.
Andrew hates Afton the most because while the others were killed right away, Andrew was tormented over a longer period of time, until finally being murdered.
Also, the point of TMIR1280 was to directly explain UCN. It being a parallel just doe snot make sense. Especially when itls just Afton in TMIR1280, and when TFTP, which ties into Stitchline, confirms FFPS did happen.
Wouldn't the Word Search be Altered Text (possibly Bite victim) be saying Cassidy with the Word Search as itis literally text in the actual book? I mean "it's me" is there as well so either Bite Victim knows their name, Altered Text isn't just BV, BV is the VS or the Puppet is Faded Text.
Think of it this way,
1.rather then VS using Faded text to help BV but rather solely talking to Michael showing they know about Michael's torture in the test rooms with the toys.
2.Michael responding to many of Faded Text's messages like "do you have nightmares" with Michael drawing Nightmare and vise versa with Michael drawing a grave and Faded writing "my name".
3. If indeed both BV and VS are in Golden Freddy and like the Stitchrafe one spirit can see and move the body freely while the other can only guide, watch and cause agony to infect/kill others but they can still communicate with eachother. Wouldn't it make sense for one spirit in Golden Freddy to effect the log book with the other guiding the one in control and messing up/infecting the contents of the books altering them.
My opinion is that the Puppet is indeed Faded Text as it makes narrative sense, is aware or everything that has happened as well as what's happening around them and the Puppet is in fact fully there in FNAF 3 with Michael.
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True!!
My big question with this theory would be that, if CC isn’t golden Freddy, then why would he wear a Golden Freddy mask in happiest day? If he were just a wandering spirit, then why would he be represented wearing an animatronic mask at all?
ask that question, no wonder dual process theory made the video, because that shit
Another reason for Cassidy to be more vengeful than the others:
William presumably used the Fredbear suit during the DCI, which was already possessed by Cassidy.
"oh God, bro, what tf you doing to my body, bring it back. Stop killing kids!"
Arrr I'm so angry you're using golden Freddy as a suit now I'm going to torture you forever aaaaahhhhh
Something I should mention: In Fnaf 4, in one of the end-of-night minigames, in the parts and service room in there’s a body with curly hair inside a Fredbear suit. Take what you want with it y’all
First
Fourth but almost?
Crazy how its been 10 years and we STILL have not figured out Golden Freddy entirely. Just shows how crazy Scott's mind was when he was coming up with the lore.
The drowning could also mean, that after aftons son dies in fredbear. The crying child Starts to move the suit and William was afraid and Put the suit in chains and drowns it in a nearby Lake. Maybe he forced Michael to Help him with that. This could be the Case for the "he Runs to that place again" in midnight motorist. Golden Freddy appears in the Front of Michaels window and Michael Breaks IT and Runs the the Lake where His little Brother or the Monster He become is now. This could be plausible. Aftons drowns His death son, and creates the vengeful Spirit. The one afton should Not killed. The Monster He or Michael created.
14:08 That's it my boy, finally someone said it
OK so we know Golden Freddy Dies last of the 5 MCI, what if what makes that kid different if he wasn't dead when put in the suit, but since Golden Freddy is a springlock, the springlocks kill him and that caused to AGONY. Now lets look at Cassidy as the Crying child.
CC is biten by Golden freddy at his birthday, and in now in a coma. William kidnaps Suzy (remember this is the MIssing Child incident, not the Murdered Child Incident), and puts her in Chica, nothing happens, and so on until he takes Cassidy's living body and puts it in Golden Freddy, the springlocks kill him in Agony. That would make CC "the one you should not have killed" his own son. It explains Golden Freddy's agony and extra powers the others do not have, hell it even explains a timeline of events, EVERYTHING
If Cassidy, the Vengeful Spirit, is the sole possessor of Golden Freddy, why can't it move? The Crying Child being "lost" is really the only piece of soft evidence we have to support Golden Freddy being immobile, so I'm curious what your explanation for that is.
Maybe the crying child is stuck to grey brain matter that didn't get flossed out of Fredbear's teeth after the bite.
Not an entire body, but enough to mess up all of the afterlife rules.
Baseless hypothesis, i would need to think more about it: Crying child is cassidy, his soul is split when the bite of 83' happens (I will put you back together). Security logbook, faded and altered are 2 parts of the same soul trying to understand each other. How would a random soul or even charlie know what CC toys looked like, why would they even involve mike just for this instance and not the rest of the kids? The mirror too: Look in the mirror, what do you see? It's me. It's me, being repeated multiple times. Faded and altered, its me. Im Cassidy. Cassidy Afton
I just want to point out that if the crying child died as a result of the coma/the bite, which happened in public and he went to the hospital for, he would not be buried in an unmarked grave in the woods. Like you can't bury your kid in the woods, even in the 80s. They give you choices when a loved one dies and one of the choices isn't "just let me take em," you know?
Somebody actually convincing solved the Foxy Puzzle and got Dave after "reflecting" the answer.
The Crying Child is apparently called Dave if that is true.
No it's not, his name actually doesn't matter to the story, along with Michael crying child is a pretty fleshed out character so we know who he is