Salām from a brother whose both countries start with a B... like Bosnia and who has so much love you brothers, your country and your unique History. May Allāh bless you and guide us all until the end of Time 🤲🏿🤲🏿🤲🏿
My home is 350 km from Viena and 450 km from Rome…region was literally a boarder area between muslim and Cristian world for centuries…. Price bosniaks paid for being muslims in mid europe after turks had to withdrew is enormous - 10 genocides in less then 200 years, most people are aware of just one from the war in 1990ties…
Yeah, my mom told me that Bosnia experienced a war roughly every 50 years for about 500 years.. 10 major wars in 5 centuries, plus even more before that.. it's crazy.. and very few know that in WWII Croats and Serbs (former Yugoslavs) were allied with N@z1 Germany, were killing Bosnians because Bosnians didn't side with them and were also protecting Jews from the Yugoslavs who were rounding them up for concentration camps.. And not only that, they also killed Croats who refused to side with them.. anywho my paternal grandma was orphaned by them at the age of three, she witnessed her parents being slaughtered like sheep on the living room doorstep by those terrorists.
@@spartanbeast3575 You know my friend, the fall of the Ottoman empire meant the bastion and protector of our people was no more. I come from Lebanon and my religious teachers taught us how the Ottoman empire had protected us in secret from the radical beliefs that led to the emergence of so-called IS*S that destroyed many mosques and shrines built during the Ottoman era or before that, in much of Syria and Iraq (and their presence in Lebanon was only recently combatted by our army). Now look at us, just existing and trying our bare minimum of withholding our beliefs by being God-fearing in this short life. May God protect Bosnia and lead it to prosperity. The communism did a number on any muslim community whether in Bosnia or Kazakhstan. This reminds me of a story my religious teacher told us about from the land of Kazakhstan/Uzbekistan, when a commissar came to a middle school for boys trying to dispel the belief in God and Islam away. The commissar said: "Can you see God?" The boys replied: "No." The commissar then tried to claim: "Then God does not exist." in order inject poison into the muslim boys. A quick witted boy, mind you his age similar to that of a grade 5 student, stood up and said: "Do you see his mind?", "NO" they replied, "then he has no mind." A basic logical approach with critical thinking can directly reveal that there has to be One who created us and chose for us to be in this body and soul that feels life, and that the Creator is not the created. The Creator is God, and that is the message of prophet Mohammed and all his fellow prophets that preceded him.
If you have suffered injuries ˹at Uḥud˺, they suffered similarly ˹at Badr˺. We alternate these days ˹of victory and defeat˺ among people so that Allah may reveal the ˹true˺ believers, choose martyrs from among you-and Allah does not like the wrongdoers-Al Imraan 140. Time never stays the same Inshallah time will change again.
@@vegetaftw1Yes, this is accurate. I have two Bosniak predecessors in my family that served in the first multi ethnic Nazi SS division (13th Waffen Mountain Nazi SS division) during World War 2. However, the division resulted in a 95% desertion rate. (Poor villagers were conscripted, looking for financial incentives during the war, being promised that the division would be stationed in Bosnia. This promise was not kept and plans to send the troops across Europe was discovered by the troops. This resulted in the nearly 100% desertion rate.) However, it is likely that the majority of Muslims of Bosnia in World War 2 joined with the Yugoslav Partisans (Communist faction) led by Josip Broz "Tito." The Yugoslav Partisans are known to have been the strongest resistance against the Nazi's during World War Two. Selam alejk, brate.
This is just a story full of lies . Please don't believe this bullshit . We have a document called "Povelja Kulina Bana" from 10th Century ( Kulin is name and Ban is Croatian version for King ) and it starts with Holly Trinity "In the Name of Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit I Kulin Ban etc. We have two copies of this document and it is located in St. Petersburg and other in Dubrovnik. Look up on the Internet and you will find it so everything is trasparent . All people of Bosnia know this and they know history . So please don't spread lies about my Country .
As a Bosniak, thank you so much for speaking about Bosnia's history to the muslim world. Sometimes we feel forgotten by other muslims and on our own. Edit: the background photo goes hard
As a Turk, never feel lonely my brother. The Bosniaks are the serhad beyleri (front mujahids) of Islam and always our heart-brothers. You showed the dignity of Islam to the hypocritic west. May Allah grant rahmet to all those shehids at that time and grant strength to all of us Muslims against crusaders. Because they have been intending to heat things up again and start a global crusade against all sincere Muslims around the world simultanously.
You guys are never forgotten brother. As a Bangladeshi, both of our countries lie in the frontiers. The biggest enemies of Islam are plotting against both of us only hundreds of kilometers away. But deep inside we all Muslim are united. And inshallah, if they ever try to eradicate us, we will put fierce resistance against that 🇧🇦🇧🇩☪
@@ashokathegreat8731 yeah, we can see it right now in Gaza. I as a Christian am appalled by your inaction. You sit a watch your brothers and sisters being slaughtered daily for over 8 months
@@h3w45 in a way yes but also our leaders have put us in the mess that we're in today 😅 sadly the soul of the faith in our country is dying out. Corruption is taking place left and right.
*what a mistake in the Qur'an!* Allah himself testifies that he has a son and he is the son as Christians understand it! Only the Koran writer was too ignorant to know what Son of God means! Allah's word which created everything is Allah himself too! *The Word Allahs which created everything is the Son of God according to Christianity!*
@@Hannestv4607Learn English before you utter such rubbish. How can God beget a Son? Is that not anthropomorphic? Google what this means because you probably don’t even know what that means, don’t ever try disrespecting Islam, you will be proven wrong and humiliated.
as A Malaysian, i always heard stories about land of Bosniak and its people..how beautiful its land and its people..hope one day in the future i got to visit Bosnia
@mrjugurtha4077 Berbers (Amazighs) were mostly Pagans at the time of Muslim expansion in North Africa. Christians were minority and mainly were African Latin-speakers located on coastal urban areas.
Some say that Islam reached Bosnia even before the Ottomans came. They say there was a traveller from Bosnia who was in Saudi Arabia in the early Kalifats. Perhaps this is the reason why Bogumili prayed 5 times a day and why their belief in Allah and Isa a.s. was different from those who've only heard from churches. This story is not verifyable as far as i know but it wouldn't surprise me if smth similar to this was true.
I heard that there was also a masjid built in Bosnia by Syrian travelers who used it for prayer on their trade travels, before the Ottoman empire, and some people accepted Islam from them
@@kulrul9180 from Bible of course jesus prayed three times and sometimes in the night two more prayers or even more he did this by putting his forehead on the ground as muslim do and as early Christians did.
سلام فلسطین، غزہ، کشمیری، انڑیا، یگور، روھنگیا، فلپائن بلکان، روسی، لاطینی امریکہ کے مسلمانوں کو آزادی نصیب فرمائے حضرت محمد صل اللہ علیہ والہ اصحاب وسلم کے صدقے میں
This is the greatest evidence that the great Bosnian people were of a sound and unchanged nature. They were previously Muslims according to the law of the Prophet Jesus, and they became Muslims according to the law of the Prophet Muhammad, the Seal of the Prophets, a people worthy of respect.
nah they were bogomil christians, not believing in the Trinity/3 gods like the catholics/orthodox and they prayed 5 Times a day both of these things make u muslim especially believing in 1 God like the bogomil ☝️
One small correction dear friend. During the time of Bosnian kingdom (more then 700 years) official religion was NOT Bogomils. Bosnian "church" was Manichaeism system of belief. That religion was considered heresy by Chaotic and Orthodox church. All Bosnian kings(dynasty) at that time were Manichaeism except the last king who accepted Chatolicisam and authority from the Pope.
...wrong, according to the official history, all Bosnians, including all Bosnian kings, were following Arius teaching which is "there is only One God"...and, he considered "Jesus to be just a prophet "...regarding Vatican, we don't care about them,... they considered everyone heretic who opposed them,...
...regarding "manichaean", it was never present in Bosnia,...it's just Vaticans propaganda,... if you believe in Vatican, ...I feel sorry for you,...and, I can just tell you,...WAKE UP,...
@@Stalker950-l3x nop, read Noel Malcom's book on Bosnian history, even though, he disagrees that Bosnia had it's own church and describes these differences as a hereticism that was later corrected, which is his pro catholic narrative bias, he completely disagrees that Bosnian chuurch had anything to do with Bogomilism aside from being descirbed as heretics by catholicas and orthodox.
@@Mr.Jasaw13 I know his book but I can’t rely on one journalist man’s book while other historians, especially balkan ones, disagree with him. Bogomilism appeared in Bulgaria in mid 12th century and spread to the west over Rashka to Bosnia. Serbs and Bulgarians already fought them before they even reached Bosnia. Although the so called bosnian church has been a slightly different form of bogomilism it had it’s origins among the Bogomils of Bulgaria. Bosniaks just try make something unique out of it to support their own identity.
One of the beautiful thing in Islam is the brotherhood. no matter where you came from or what language you speak, or you skin color. even if you were my enemy, but the moment you become a Muslim you become my brother. Bosnian, Indonesia, America... All does not matter cause what units us is Islam, submitting our self to the only true God that sent us prophet from Adam, Noah, Abraham, Mouses, Jesus, and Mohamed peace be upon all of them.
@@z3nithhhwhere did you hear that bs Somali capital is the fastest growing city in Africa and has fastest internet in whole of Africa Somalis don’t have lack of food since they have largest livestock in whole of africa and asia somalis are flourishing in everywhere do your research properly
@@z3nithhhthats when you speak out of hatred and ignorance. I am also Somalia and you cant believe the beauty of my house in which i live and 5G internet . I bet the main stream media told you , you are the only one who have good life. Brainwashed
I have always been interested in knowing about Bosnia, about our Bosnian brothers and sisters and the history of Islam in Bosnia. Thank you for making this video. Love and prayers for our Bosnian brothers and sisters from Pakistan.
Omar, at age 70+ I learn the details of historical context of so many remote lands like Vietnam, Malaysia and now Bosnian Christian Monotheism, from you. Jazaak Allah.
Ah Bosnia! Everlasting bastion of freedom. Here are few extra facts: - Bosnian bogumils - Bogu mili in translation from bosnian language, essentialy all other south slav languages, means "Those dear to God", they were a part of bosnian church and Bosnians had their own culture. There is a unique culture of burial grounds that you will find only on teritory ruled by this authentic bosnian religion. These toombstones are called "Stećak". If You've seen Dune 1, burial grounds, thats pretty much how it looks like, only even more authentic. - Bosnians spoke their own language and had their own script called bosančica. One of the oldest written document, of all slav people, and when I say all I mean all from Russia to Poland, Belarus to Montenegro, is Povelja Kulina Bana, Charter of Ban Kulin. Rated in one of top 20 oldest documents in slavic history. - Average Bosnian folk were literate, and quite poetic. This is something proven by the scribes written on almost every Stećak. - Rome made 5 atempts of Crusades on Bosnian lands, and it ended by Ban Kulin resigning his Bosnian religion and accepting Pope as his spiritual leader, but in the background, bosnian church continiued to prosper. Additional 3 crusades were made by Hungarians, supported by Pope. - Grudge of Rome against Bosnia was so strong, they deneid to send aid to Bosnian army against Otoman Empire. However, Otoman Empire took 75 Years to take over whole of Bosnian teritory. - Bosnia was one of the richest Kingdoms in Europe, princeses of Bosnia would often mary Germans, Hungarians, Italians, Austrians, Bulgarian Bans and Dukes. - Paralel to prosperity, Ottomans also brought suffering for Bosnian folk, often giving Serbian politicians authorites over Bosnian Lands, wich led to many uprisings. - Bosnian people helped a lot of Jewish families that were prosicuted from Europe, century after century. One of the oldes Hagada is still in Sarajevo and you can visit it in the states museum. - Rebelius nature of Bosnian folk gave us the start of first world war, when Gavrilo Princip shot dead Arch duke Franz Ferdinand. uh, can you put a thousand year old history in few sentances? I gues a documentary sieries would not be enough. You've done a fair job I have to say, thank you for making this video. Bosnians hold dear many traditions, we are proud people, stuborn, not that easily offended and always give our best to stand for the truth. War in 1990s was epiphony of opression against our land, our fathers barehandedly fought against fourth largest army in the world and won our freedom. Brothers in arms were all religions, some of the best generals were not even muslim, they were orthodox and catholics. Sadest part is that this war brought upon us ethnic cleansing, but we will presevier.
u'll disappear, rest assured. In between other lie u wrote: nazovi turad did so many great things, denying all those claims from all over this Planet to poor idiots which ran to Jugoslavia to butcher.
Adevarat ,dar multe monumente steci sînt ale valahilor balcanici,ultimul sat dispărut în razboiul civil distrus de mercenarii musulmani din Afganistan și Caucaz
Много лажеш! Назив "богумили" је настао по бугарском пашчињеном попу Богумилу који је преузео идеологију из Византије од неких јерменских павликијана. Богумил је окупио своје следбенике у брдима који се зову Босна, налазе се данас у југоисточном делу Бугарске (погледај карту Бугарске). Босна је назив трачког порекла са непознатим значењем. Та заједница је протерана из Бугарске од византијске царске војске и распршила се по Македонији (центар на планини Бабуни) и Србији (центар Скопска Црна Гора и Проклетије). Пошто су придобили један део следбеника у Србији, српски жупан Стефан Немања Завидовић их протерује у Босну и Далмацију, одакле неки прелазе у Италију и називају се катари (чисти), и даље у Француску где се називају патарени, Бугари и касније албигенези. У Босни се окупља један део следбеника попа Богумила и по успомени на своју заједницу на планини Босна у Југоисточној Бугарској дају име "црква босанска". По имену своје цркве дали су име реци Босни и касније се читав крај назвао Босна. Босном се првобитно звало подручје од планине Игман до Врандука. То је била Босна. Касније су разни владари ширили територију на Усору и Соли, на Доње Краје, на Неретву, Подриње и тако даље... Босанчица није постојала као писмо. Био је то упрошћен облик ћирилице прилагођен трговачком послу за ког је ћирилица била сложена за употребу и њу су писали учени људи по манастирима и дворовима. Назив Босанчица је дао аустроугарски научник Чех Ћиро Трухелка да би оспорио српске аргументе да је Босна српска земља, а за рачун аустроугарске царске власти.
Your claims are not only false and unsupported by historical evidence, but they also seem to be influenced by a national bias, which compromises their credibility. -First lie: Bogumil, also known as Theophylact Bogomil, was a 10th-century Bulgarian priest and the founder of the Bogomil heresy, a dualist religious sect. The Bogomils believed in the existence of two gods: a good god, who created the spiritual world, and an evil god, who created the material world. Their teachings opposed the established Orthodox Church and feudal authorities, advocating for a return to what they saw as the purity and simplicity of early Christianity. The movement, although never large in numbers, spread throughout the Balkans and beyond, influencing various other heretical movements in medieval Europe. Despite some influence in the region, Bogomilism was never the official religion in Bosnia. Historical records, including those from Byzantine chroniclers like Euthymius Zigabenus and Western sources such as the papal bull of Pope John XXII in 1325, confirm that Bogomilism remained a minority belief and was often persecuted by both Orthodox and Catholic authorities. Additionally, the Bosnian Church, sometimes confused with Bogomilism, had distinct beliefs and practices, as evidenced by documents like the Charter of Ban Kulin from 1189. Second lie - The term "Bosančica" is often misrepresented or misunderstood in historical discussions, leading to misconceptions about its origins and usage. The notion of "Bosančica" as a distinct and unique alphabet used solely in medieval Bosnia is a misleading interpretation of historical facts. The so-called "Bosančica" was not a separate alphabet but a regional variant of the Cyrillic script. This script was widespread among South Slavic peoples, including Serbs, Croats, and Bosnians, during the medieval period. Its use was influenced by the cultural and religious practices of the time, which were heavily intertwined across these regions. The people of medieval Bosnia were ethnically and culturally linked to the Serbs. Historical documents, such as those by Byzantine Emperor Constantine VII and the charters of Bosnian rulers like King Tvrtko I, illustrate the strong presence of Serbian people and influence in Bosnia. This close relationship meant that the Cyrillic script used in Bosnia was fundamentally the same as the Serbian Cyrillic alphabet. Documents from the medieval Bosnian state, including the charters of Ban Kulin and King Tvrtko I, were written in the Cyrillic script commonly used by Serbs. These texts do not support the idea of a unique "Bosančica" script but rather confirm the use of the standard Cyrillic alphabet of the time. The Bosnian Church, though distinct in some practices, shared many similarities with the Serbian Orthodox Church. The liturgical texts and religious manuscripts found in Bosnia were often written in Cyrillic, aligning with the Serbian tradition rather than representing a separate script. The term "Bosančica" itself is a relatively modern invention, not a medieval concept. It was created to emphasize regional variations within the Cyrillic script but has been inaccurately promoted as an entirely distinct alphabet. This has led to confusion and the propagation of myths about its uniqueness. The idea of "Bosančica" as a separate alphabet is a historical misrepresentation. The Cyrillic script used in medieval Bosnia was identical to the Serbian Cyrillic alphabet, reflecting the shared cultural and ethnic heritage of the South Slavic peoples in the region. Correcting this misconception is essential for an accurate understanding of the region's history and linguistic development. Third lie - It is clear that the claim about the average Bosnians being literate is a blatant lie. In medieval Bosnia, literacy was predominantly confined to the clergy and nobility. The clergy and monks used Cyrillic and Latin scripts for religious and official purposes, while the nobility had education and could read and write for governance and diplomacy. However, most ordinary people were not literate and relied on oral traditions. The assertion that common people were generally literate contradicts historical evidence and is simply false. Fourth lie - Your claim that there were crusades specifically initiated by the Roman Catholic Church or the Kingdom of Hungary targeting Bosnia is a blatant lie. Historical evidence shows that while the broader Crusading movements and regional conflicts did impact the Balkans, including Bosnia, there were no major crusades specifically launched from Rome or Hungary directly against Bosnia. Hungary's military actions in the region were part of broader political and military conflicts rather than formal crusades, and the Catholic Church's efforts in Bosnia were more about exerting religious influence than conducting dedicated crusades. Where did you get that number and why you falsify history? Fifth lie - The claim of yours that there was significant animosity between Bosnia and Rome during the Ottoman conquests is false. While the Roman Catholic Church did seek to influence and support Christian states in the Balkans, its primary concern was preventing the expansion of the Ottoman Empire, which was viewed as a threat to Christian Europe. There was no notable grudge between Bosnia and Rome; rather, the Church's involvement was focused on broader diplomatic and religious efforts to resist Ottoman expansion rather than on direct conflict or significant tension with Bosnia.... More of your lies I'll write on another occasion. I have more historical evidence to support my claims than you do. To help you better understand this topic, especially since discussions about Bosnia are often influenced by bias, I suggest you review this evidence. This will provide a clearer, more accurate view of the subject.
Bosna nije Evropa od trenutka turskog osvajanja postala je kulturno i civilizacijski drugačija! Glupa priča jer i sada je granica EU sa BiH kao što je bilo u Otomansko doba
@@prcbukvu2293Bosna je EVROPA. Ona prava. Ne nasilna i cista. Sve je drugo djelo sejtana i njegove djece na na svinjetini odgojene i za zlom zadojene. Ratujemo mi svama od smrti Hrista naseg
Bosnia is not a Muslim country but a country where some citizen are Muslims. Half of the country is Serbian Orthodoxy, some parts populated with Croatians Catholics and there are some Muslims too.
Croatia is not a Christian country. There are some Muslims who live in Croatia. Serbia is not a Christian country either. One third of Serbia is also Muslim (in Sanjak region)...
Fun fact, in the 19th century there were some Bosnians who migrated to Palestine (and from there to other lands), and they collectively named themselves Bushnak, and nowadays anyone with that family name, whether they live in the Hijaz or in Shaam (Levant), they're Bosnian descendants. Another fun fact, in Turkey there is a place called Little Bosnia, which is a place made by Bosnian migrants in the 19th century, and to this day their descendants speak Bosnian (alongside Turkish), and the interesting thing is they speak a certain dialect of Bosnian (I forgot which one). It would be nice if you could do videos about these topics as well.
😊Moja domovina, moja voljena Bosna i Hercegovina..🇧🇦 🇧🇦 🇧🇦 🇧🇦 Selam svima od ponosne Bosanke, nove y0utuberke.. Bujrum i na m0j kanaI... Bosna je svašta pretrpljela ali i dalje stoji, hrabro prkoseći onima koji su željeli da je unište. 🇧🇦 🇧🇦 😊
❤ from Muslim in Indonesia "And when those who disbelieve plot against thee, to wound thee fatally, or to kill thee or to drive thee forth; they plot, but Allah (also) plotteth; and Allah is the best of plotters. (QS 8:30) May Allah make easy for you to develop your Channel. Aamiin
My past ancestor's were Catholics who converted to Islam when the Ottomans came to Europe few centuries ago. I love every religon and i respekt anyone who believes in God.
Ti se tribaš vratiti na kršćanstvo, a ne što ti je praprapradedo prešao na islam radi lakšeg života pa tebe tokom generacija uvjerili da je islam prava stvar. Jedini je spas u Isusu Kristu!
The Ottoman Turks introduced the "Devshirme" practice in Bosnia also known as child levy or blood tax. The taking of small Christian children from their families with the aim of converting them.
The Ottomans used to go into villages in Macedonia and the like and round up all the prettiest girls. Your insights were great. I think this fact though not fun for most should be pointed out.
I am reading one book that we got informed about Islam also bcs of trade. When Arabs conquered Sicily and were selling to nowadays Croatian part of Dalmatia. Very interesting and informative book, bcs it shows us that also Croats were the one of the first who embraced Islam as well.
@@NUTella_enjoyer It's essential to recognize that history is complex and cannot be reduced to simplistic explanations. Dismissing the early Croats' conversion to Islam as mere economic opportunism overlooks the profound cultural exchanges that occur through trade. Many societies have adopted new religions through similar processes. For example, the Kingdom of Axum in Africa embraced Christianity largely due to interactions with Christian merchants. Croats encountering Islam might have found genuine spiritual and cultural value, not just profit. Reducing their experience to mere economic gain is both simplistic and disrespectful.
Yeah, we are border country for thousands of years, between east and west, christianity and islam, catholics and orthodox. In my town we have catholic church, orthodox church, jew synagogue, and many moques. We hate noone, but we are awake for those who hate us. Selam from Zenica, Bosnia :)
Best explanation of our history on TH-cam which many of our Christian neighbours try to rewrite to fit their own narratives. Thank you and May Allah bring you a lot of Barakah🤲
General Serbian point of view: Modern Bosnian Muslims are Islamized Slavic Christians of Serbian origin*. There were several types if Islamization: By force, where you either become a Muslim, or you can get starved or get killed. By interest, in order to keep the land you had and pay lower taxes. Used by nobles mostly. By belief, where you truly believed in Islam. There were many *Muslim families which still celebrated Christmas, Slava and Đurđevdan, but these traditions have Slavic paganism routes. I wrote *Serbian as general term for central south Slavs (there is no general term), which to this day share the similar tradition, culture and language, which is very similar/same to Croatian and Montenegrin, but different from Slovenian or Bulgarian. There are Bulgarian Muslims which have nothing in common with Bosnian Muslims, and no Slovenian Muslims.
Yes, but listen to this. We like it, we accept it. We accept both Islam and Rakija and kolo. But we are Bosnians, with Orthodox, Catholic and Muslim faith. But for some reason, other people don't accept that.
It is interesting that Bosnians are the oldest nation in the Balkans and that they originally came from Bogumils who accepted Islam, while Croats and Serbs were serfs and tribes who tried to exterminate Bosnian Muslims in the 90s and who committed genocide in Srebrenica and central Bosnia. yet such a "small" nation defeated the Serbs and Croats, which shows how much stronger they are than other nations in the Balkans!
1. Laws that made life more simple is converted to Muslim 2. No taxes for Muslims 3. No need to go to army and die but a right to be on high level ranks Btw, the whole schisma story is not correct, the Bogumil construct etc.
I think that the Bosnian Bogomils, like Islam, have their roots in Zealot-Essene insurgent, ascetic Judaism, which disappeared with the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD. The Bogumils saw in Islam a religion similar to their own.
Bogomils were actually dualists meaning that they believed that there are two gods, a good one and an evil one. They believed that the good god (the Father) created all spiritual things while the evil one (Satan) created all materialistic things. That is the reason why Bogomils rejected the cross because it was a material thing, they also did not build any churches or any other type of structures.
Because today's ISLAM was originally a Non Trinitarian Eastern Christianity that was practiced outside the territory of the Roman empire. The fact that the the Patriarch of Jerusalem knew the time of pray for 'muslims' in 630s AD when the Arab conquered Jerusalem the first time, indicates that there was connection between the Eastern Christianity and the belief system of the Arab conquerors. The premise of the existence of the religion of Islam is based on the narrative that says 'the prophet who lived in the 7th century started and spread the religion of Islam.' However, the problem is that there was no such concept as the religion of Islam in the 7th century. Religion was practiced but not conceptualized. Religion is a modern concept. The word "religion" was introduced into the English language around 1200 AD. Initially, it referred to various ways of worship among Christian denominations. The meaning of the word has evolved over time. Religion is a modern concept. No ancient language had a term or word that corresponded to the meaning of what modern people call 'religion.' Religion is a modern concept. Neither Abraham, Moses, nor Jesus talked about religion. None of them started their own religions because the concept of religion didn't exist. Religion is a modern concept. According to the Encyclopedia of the Qur'an, the Arabic word "din" (دين) was never translated into English as 'religion' before the 20th century. Religion is a modern concept. The original meaning of the Arabic "din" is law, judgment, or way of life, similar to how the Hebrew "din" means law or judgment. Religion is a modern concept. The original meaning of the word "Islam" is submission. In the 7th century, "Islam" simply meant submission, not the name or the brand of a religion, a modern concept. Religion is a modern concept. The original meaning of the phrase "DIN (AL-)ISLAM” is not the religion of Islam but rather ‘submission as a way of life’. This is evident from the fact that the Arabic "din" was never translated into English as religion before the 20th century. Thus, the famous Qur'anic phrase (3:19) "the religion (din) in the sight of Allah is Islam" is a modern interpretation and can be rephrased as "the way of life (din) that is acceptable to or that is from Allah is submission (Islam)." Hence, The Qur'an doesn't talk about the religion of Islam. This means the prophet who lived in the 7th century didn't know anything about the religion of Islam because the concept of religion didn't exist. It means that what scholars have been saying for decades-that the Qur'an is a Christian text-is true because there was no concept of religion in the 7th century. What was "din" before it became a religion? What was Islam before it became the name or the brand of a religion? When did Islam (meaning submission) become the name of a religion, a modern concept? If the religion of Islam didn't exist in the 7th century, who were the people called 'Muslims' in the Qur'an? "Muslims" simply means submitters (those who submit to God). The word 'Muslims' in the Qur'an has nothing to do with the religion of Islam. If the religion of Islam didn't exist in the 7th century, who was the prophet who lived in the 7th century? The fact that the Qur'an confirms that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah suggests that the prophet must have been a non-Trinitarian Christian, and the author of the Qur'an must have been non-Trinitarian Christians (as proposed by scholars like Angelika Neuwirth in "The Qur'an as a Late Antique Text" or Christoph Luxenberg in "The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran"). Muslims do not understand what the Qur'an is trying to say because they have been separated from the sources (the Bible and the theological disputes in the Early Church) that many verses of the Qur'an refer to, such as the nature of Christ, the Theotokos, the Nicene Creed, etc. For those who think that the Qur'an has nothing to do with the Bible and the theological disputes in the Early Church, such as the majority of Christians and modern Muslims, many esoteric verses in the Qur'an are misunderstood because they cannot grasp that these verses are actually discussing the theological disputes among Christians in the early Church. Is Jesus divine in the Quran? And who or what is MHMD in the Quran? #### Case 1 The Qur'an confirms that Jesus is divine (Jesus had two natures, human and divine) because it confirms the virgin birth of Jesus, a divine birth. The Qur'an renders the name of Jesus as "Isa," the Redeemer, a title used by Christians in Jordan before Islam as a divine title for Jesus. The Qur'an confirms that Jesus is the "Rasulullah" (Messenger of God). The concept of "rasul" (messenger) in the Qur'an is similar to the concept of the messenger in the Old Testament. There are two types of messengers in the Old Testament: human messengers (prophets) and divine messengers (Malak Elohim, the Angel of the LORD, malakh = messenger = angel). In the Qur'an, the human messenger is called "rasul" (rasul = messenger = malakh). And what is the Quranic rasulullah? The problem is that Muslims do not understand the difference between "rasul" and "Rasulullah." The only possible answer is that "Rasulullah" = the Malak Elohim = the Angel of the LORD. Thus, the Qur'an confirms that Jesus was the Angel of the LORD who appeared several times in the Old Testament (some Chrisitans also believed that Jesus was the Angel of the Lord). How about the MHMD? Therefore, the Qur'an and the hadith are not talking about the same "Muhammad." The Qur'an is talking about a divine "Muhammad" (MHMD = the Praised One), not the person of Muhammad proposed in the hadith (the word "Muhammad" is mentioned only four times in the Qur'an, and one of those mentions, QS 33:40, rejects the Muhammad of the hadith). The two-nature of Jesus in the Quran? Did the author of the Quran believe that Jesus was fully human? #### Case 2 Muslims don't understand what the Qur'an is trying to say in some of its verses because they are esoteric. For example, the crucifixion verses (QS 4:157-158): There are two Jesuses in these verses. The first Jesus was on the cross, while the second one was raised by Allah unto Himself. Muslims misunderstand these verses, and some say that Allah replaced Jesus with someone else, which is incorrect according to the Qur'an. In these verses, the author of the Qur'an was trying to say that: - The DIVINE Jesus was raised by Allah unto Himself. If Jesus were not divine, how could He live for more than 2,000 years with Allah? Does Jesus eat with Allah? - While the divine Jesus was raised by Allah, the HUMAN Jesus was still on the cross. The difference between mainstream Christians, who believe that Jesus is fully human and fully divine, and the author of the Qur'an is that: the author of the Quran believed that the HUMAN Jesus was only an ILLUSION or APPARITION of His divine nature. Thus, according to the author of the Qur'an, Jesus didn't actually suffer on the cross because the one on the cross was just an illusion or apparition of His divine nature (Docetism). These verses were intended to be recited to the Jewish audience of the Qur'an because some Jews couldn't accept Jesus as their Messiah, since the Old Testament says that a person hanging on a tree is cursed by God. Thus, this verse solved that problem.
That's simply not true. Since the people who converted to islam in the balkans were mostly orthodox christians. By the time when the Otomans invaded balkans, bogomilism was mostly gone from Bosnia and other parts of balkans. And bogomilism wasn't exclusive to Bosnia, it was common in all of the balkans. Actually it spread to Serbia and Bosnia from the first Bulgarian empire. Bogomilism doesn't have any connections or similarities with islam. There is no proof whatsoever that bogomils or any other gnostic/dualist sect prayed five times a day like muslims do. And the reason why todays most muslims from the balkans live in Bosnia is because they moved there from Serbia and parts of Austria Hungary ( mostly Slavonia and Dalmatia ) after the failed siege of Vienna by the Otoman empire and after the first Serb uprising in the 19th century. This is pure Otoman pan islamic propaganda where you try to say that your ancestors converted to islam because their fate was correct even back then and the fate of others was incorrect even back then. People converted to islam because they wanted to keep or improve their social status under the Otoman rule not because the Otomans introduced them to the ''correct'' religion like you subtly try to say it here. You said it yourself.Those who didn't convert to islam were second grade citizens with no political and social rights. While I do agree with you that the Catholic church was much more brutal towards the members of other religions than the Otomans were.
The orthodox church was no better in how they treated the Bogomils, furthermore both east and western church were notorious for enslaving and selling pagans who probably did that to someone else and so on and so on but you not ready for that convo
A to sto ti pises je srpsko hrvatska propaganda al dzaba vam u vase lazi vise niko ne vjeruje pa ni ti sam kralja bosne nazivate srpskim il hrvatskim kraljem nemozete se dogovoriti a cijeli svijet zna da je bosanski zasto prisvajate tudju historiju kad je Bosna pala pod tursku hrvatske vec dugo nije bilo a srbija vec 100 godina turska bila bosna je imala svoju crkvu neovisna o rimu i carigradu bogumili su vidjeli turke kao spasitelje zbog krstaskih ratova koje rim pokreto sa ugarima zato su u Bosni islam najvise prigrlili i bosna i dalje opstaje i opstat ce od vas i vasih falsifikata historije i jos znas li sta je stecak na stecku pise bosnjanin i nista drugo ni kurvati ni servi
Based on historical census data from both the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the Kingdom of Yugoslavia, it is evident that Muslims were never the overwhelming majority in Bosnia and Herzegovina. According to the 1879 census under Austro-Hungarian rule: - Muslims: 496,485 (38.7%) - Orthodox Christians: 496,485 (42.9%) - Catholics: 209,391 (18.1%) - Others: 3,749 (0.3%) According to the 1931 census in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia: - Muslims (later known as Bosniaks): 718,079 (30.9%) - Orthodox Christians (mainly Serbs): 1,028,139 (44.3%) - Catholics (mainly Croats): 547,949 (23.6%) - Others: 30,398 (1.3%) These figures clearly demonstrate that Muslims were not the majority population in Bosnia and Herzegovina during these periods. Claims that Muslims were the overwhelming majority in Bosnia during the 1600s are historically inaccurate. The data from both the Austro-Hungarian era and the Kingdom of Yugoslavia refute such assertions, showcasing a diverse and balanced ethnic composition in the region over time.l
da je laz sto ti pises,je cinjenica da na prostoru Turske danas zivi oko 6 miliona Bosnjaka koji su dolaskom Austrougara odselili u Tursku,pa za vrijeme prve Juge ima i o tome je pisao Ivo Andric kako se pravio drzavni ugovor za preseljenje svih muslimana u Tursku,pa onda TIto i isto tako preseljavanje da je zaustavljeno krajem 60 godina zabog zapada jer se pocelo pricat o etnickom ciscenju
The vlah thing that mirsad is using is taken so out of context is not even funny.... Most serbs do not have vlah heritage.. But simple are serbs anyway medivel bosnia was a serbian state and it realy does not matter if they were orthodox or not.... And medivel bosnia had a orthodox population... Especially on the border with Serbia. Most parts of bosnia were catholic.
You missed one important fact half of Bosnia is Orthodox and Catholic because they didnt want to take Islam as their religion so you cant just say Bosnians are Muslim.... Fact
My Family during Ottoman Empire didn't want to convert to Islam ( Bosnian Christians where forced to convert to Islam) My ancestors had Christian tattoos all over their body and thanks to God we are proud Christian still and Bosnian
Half of Bosnia...because after Ottomans empire was defeated..most of Bosniaks had to flee..U were maybe 2-5 procent..Belgrade named white city because of 1000 white minaret was Muslim city
Zapisali su u Istanbulu davno da im je za jednog našeg trebalo najmanje 10otomana .. kazu veliki široki ljudi izlijecu iz brda .. zato su nam krali djecu i žene. I moje bake su bile tetovirane obe. Kad opet dodu treba ce im bar 50. Kad ove njihove lazi čovjek gleda žao mu bude sto ih je nas narod spasio. Bilo bi mozda bolje da je bilo jos 5x8000...
But they dont call them Bosnians,Catolics call them Croats ,And Orthodox call them Serbs.Before Otomans Bosnia was ruled by Croats and Serbian kings ,even during Austria Hungary rule in Bosnia before WWI official langue was called Serbo-Croatian and it was illegal to call it Bosnian langue
@@dzonikg First of all there is no serbocro language..that invented and overwritten from Bosnian in 1840s..second BOSNIAN BOGUMILS who converted by Sword by Pope into christianity we call croats(italian side of balkan/ west roman empir..east roman empire(Bosnian Bogumils who converted to orthodox)Even after crusades REST of BOSNIAN BOGUMILS STAYED making it the first country in the world
Amongs Bosnian heresy there are a lot of hidden stories of monotheism and Islam in Europe before Ottomans to cover like: - Germanic Arians and Julian, Count of Ceuta who joined Umayyad conquest of Hispania - Two Hungarian muslim groupation (western Böszörmény and eastern Khwarezmians) who lived and served during the rule of king Geza II - Croatian Domald Kačić (Snačić) / Domald of Sidraga (1160 - 1243), son of prince Saracen (muslim?) who managed to briefly free Zadar from Venetian rule in 1204, which had previously been destroyed by the Crusaders in 1202. He fell out of favor with Andrija II Arpadović and Pope Honorius III (1221), who took his possessions (parts of Hum, Split, Šibenik and Zadar) and bring them to Grgur and Stjepan Šubić, due to alleged "piracy and heresy".
So proud to be muslim for centuries in the middle of the Europe! Salam from Bosnia
Salām from a brother whose both countries start with a B... like Bosnia and who has so much love you brothers, your country and your unique History. May Allāh bless you and guide us all until the end of Time 🤲🏿🤲🏿🤲🏿
Assalamualaikum,my brothers.
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Greetings 🇧🇦 Muslim ☪️ ❤️ brothers and sisters FROM CANADA 🇨🇦
We love you from Asia, Pakistan.
Walikoom a Salam brother
Love Bosnia from Indonesia...
Sama dari Indonesia ❤
Love for Indonesian brothers from Bosnia.
@@hecimbecir8482 Assalamualaikum brother!
@@suaramuslim-v1k Alaikumu Salam!
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My home is 350 km from Viena and 450 km from Rome…region was literally a boarder area between muslim and Cristian world for centuries…. Price bosniaks paid for being muslims in mid europe after turks had to withdrew is enormous - 10 genocides in less then 200 years, most people are aware of just one from the war in 1990ties…
Yeah, my mom told me that Bosnia experienced a war roughly every 50 years for about 500 years.. 10 major wars in 5 centuries, plus even more before that.. it's crazy.. and very few know that in WWII Croats and Serbs (former Yugoslavs) were allied with N@z1 Germany, were killing Bosnians because Bosnians didn't side with them and were also protecting Jews from the Yugoslavs who were rounding them up for concentration camps.. And not only that, they also killed Croats who refused to side with them.. anywho my paternal grandma was orphaned by them at the age of three, she witnessed her parents being slaughtered like sheep on the living room doorstep by those terrorists.
@@spartanbeast3575 You know my friend, the fall of the Ottoman empire meant the bastion and protector of our people was no more. I come from Lebanon and my religious teachers taught us how the Ottoman empire had protected us in secret from the radical beliefs that led to the emergence of so-called IS*S that destroyed many mosques and shrines built during the Ottoman era or before that, in much of Syria and Iraq (and their presence in Lebanon was only recently combatted by our army). Now look at us, just existing and trying our bare minimum of withholding our beliefs by being God-fearing in this short life.
May God protect Bosnia and lead it to prosperity. The communism did a number on any muslim community whether in Bosnia or Kazakhstan. This reminds me of a story my religious teacher told us about from the land of Kazakhstan/Uzbekistan, when a commissar came to a middle school for boys trying to dispel the belief in God and Islam away. The commissar said: "Can you see God?" The boys replied: "No." The commissar then tried to claim: "Then God does not exist." in order inject poison into the muslim boys. A quick witted boy, mind you his age similar to that of a grade 5 student, stood up and said: "Do you see his mind?", "NO" they replied, "then he has no mind." A basic logical approach with critical thinking can directly reveal that there has to be One who created us and chose for us to be in this body and soul that feels life, and that the Creator is not the created. The Creator is God, and that is the message of prophet Mohammed and all his fellow prophets that preceded him.
If you have suffered injuries ˹at Uḥud˺, they suffered similarly ˹at Badr˺. We alternate these days ˹of victory and defeat˺ among people so that Allah may reveal the ˹true˺ believers, choose martyrs from among you-and Allah does not like the wrongdoers-Al Imraan 140.
Time never stays the same Inshallah time will change again.
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Stop bullshiting, we Bosnians worked with Croats and Germans during ww2 and it's just straight up lie to say otherwise
@@vegetaftw1Yes, this is accurate.
I have two Bosniak predecessors in my family that served in the first multi ethnic Nazi SS division (13th Waffen Mountain Nazi SS division) during World War 2. However, the division resulted in a 95% desertion rate.
(Poor villagers were conscripted, looking for financial incentives during the war, being promised that the division would be stationed in Bosnia. This promise was not kept and plans to send the troops across Europe was discovered by the troops. This resulted in the nearly 100% desertion rate.)
However, it is likely that the majority of Muslims of Bosnia in World War 2 joined with the Yugoslav Partisans (Communist faction) led by Josip Broz "Tito."
The Yugoslav Partisans are known to have been the strongest resistance against the Nazi's during World War Two.
Selam alejk, brate.
Hello from Bosnia 🇧🇦☪️
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Assalamu alaykum warahmatullahi wabarakaatuh from Somalia
Allah bless you brother/ sister
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Beautiful people of the Muslim world
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What a fascinating story! Keep up the great work.
Thanks brother :)
This is just a story full of lies . Please don't believe this bullshit . We have a document called "Povelja Kulina Bana" from 10th Century ( Kulin is name and Ban is Croatian version for King ) and it starts with Holly Trinity "In the Name of Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit I Kulin Ban etc. We have two copies of this document and it is located in St. Petersburg and other in Dubrovnik. Look up on the Internet and you will find it so everything is trasparent . All people of Bosnia know this and they know history . So please don't spread lies about my Country .
As a Bosniak, thank you so much for speaking about Bosnia's history to the muslim world. Sometimes we feel forgotten by other muslims and on our own. Edit: the background photo goes hard
As a Turk, never feel lonely my brother. The Bosniaks are the serhad beyleri (front mujahids) of Islam and always our heart-brothers. You showed the dignity of Islam to the hypocritic west. May Allah grant rahmet to all those shehids at that time and grant strength to all of us Muslims against crusaders. Because they have been intending to heat things up again and start a global crusade against all sincere Muslims around the world simultanously.
7th Muslim Brigade?
We know you well bro
You guys are never forgotten brother. As a Bangladeshi, both of our countries lie in the frontiers. The biggest enemies of Islam are plotting against both of us only hundreds of kilometers away. But deep inside we all Muslim are united. And inshallah, if they ever try to eradicate us, we will put fierce resistance against that 🇧🇦🇧🇩☪
@@ashokathegreat8731 yeah, we can see it right now in Gaza.
I as a Christian am appalled by your inaction. You sit a watch your brothers and sisters being slaughtered daily for over 8 months
Bosnians must be very proud of their steadfastness
Converts really
@@miloshp7399 Converts? Didn't you watch the video?
@@h3w45 in a way yes but also our leaders have put us in the mess that we're in today 😅 sadly the soul of the faith in our country is dying out. Corruption is taking place left and right.
@@miloshp7399 At list in the right and true faith ... Pure Monotheism
Indeed we are, elhamdulillah
So proud of Bosnia
From Kuwait 🇰🇼
*what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
Allah himself testifies that he has a son and he is the son as Christians understand it! Only the Koran writer was too ignorant to know what Son of God means! Allah's word which created everything is Allah himself too! *The Word Allahs which created everything is the Son of God according to Christianity!*
Take off the aluminum hat
Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity!
*what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
@@Hannestv4607Learn English before you utter such rubbish. How can God beget a Son? Is that not anthropomorphic? Google what this means because you probably don’t even know what that means, don’t ever try disrespecting Islam, you will be proven wrong and humiliated.
@@Hannestv4607Then what does son of god mean? Maybe you might be able to correct the Christian world.
Thanks bro. Love to our brothers and sisters in Kuwait.
as A Malaysian, i always heard stories about land of Bosniak and its people..how beautiful its land and its people..hope one day in the future i got to visit Bosnia
Alway welcome for our brothers sisters Malaysians
May Allah bless you for your channel, honestly.
Amin and may Allah bless your efforts too
Another fantastic video.
Thanks brother!
Love you Bosnian brother
Is he Bosnian himself?
@@Caiser-e-Rum He looks european, so yeah there's a huge chance of him being a Bosnian.
@@itz__yamipretty sure he’s Egyptian & Turkish , I think the commenter was referring to himself as Bosnian
@@maryam9996 oh brother I am indian 🤲🤲 muslim
They Very strong Muslim in Europe not like Albanians they not give up their Religion my Allah protect them 🇧🇩♥️
It’s same as the Berbers in North Africa they became Muslim because they were Unitarian Christians ,which means basically Muslims
@mrjugurtha4077 Berbers (Amazighs) were mostly Pagans at the time of Muslim expansion in North Africa. Christians were minority and mainly were African Latin-speakers located on coastal urban areas.
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Crypto ❌ Christo-Muslim
Our ancestors are followers of "Arian" teaching which separates "Jesus" from Creator(Allah)
@@Dru517 Who cares ... I still love Santa Claus
Love bosnian muslims from indian muslims 🇮🇳❤️🇧🇦
Thank you brothers and sisters in India we love you back🇮🇳♥️🇧🇦
@@balkanikking160 🤝🤝🤝.
Selam from Bosnia
@@ensarzahirovic4137 Walekum Assalam Brother 🇮🇳❤️🇧🇦
Love you me brothers and sisters from Albania 🇦🇱
Salam brother from Bangladesh
MashaAllah Bosnia and Hercegovina love Albania.
@@balkanikking160 how are you brother
@@balkanikking160 🇦🇱🏴♥️🇧🇦🏴
Respect 🇧🇦 🇦🇱
Love Bosnia from Evergreen Bangladesh 🇧🇩🇧🇦
@@MegalodonDolphin বাংলাদেশে শীতকালে রাশিয়ার মতো সাদা হয়ে যায়? নাকি গরমে আরবের মতো হলুদ হয়ে যায়? সবসময়েই তো সবুজ থাকে।
Am Bosnian and love my bangladeshi homies, brother country
Some say that Islam reached Bosnia even before the Ottomans came. They say there was a traveller from Bosnia who was in Saudi Arabia in the early Kalifats. Perhaps this is the reason why Bogumili prayed 5 times a day and why their belief in Allah and Isa a.s. was different from those who've only heard from churches. This story is not verifyable as far as i know but it wouldn't surprise me if smth similar to this was true.
It's entirely possible.
I heard that there was also a masjid built in Bosnia by Syrian travelers who used it for prayer on their trade travels, before the Ottoman empire, and some people accepted Islam from them
There is no such information that Bosnians prayed 5 times a day. I dont know where he got it.
@@kulrul9180 from Bible of course jesus prayed three times and sometimes in the night two more prayers or even more he did this by putting his forehead on the ground as muslim do and as early Christians did.
Oh please, stop these lies.
I love you my beautiful country, Bosnia and Herzegovina
Muslims never lose hope
Assalam walaiokom Bosnian brothers and sisters ❤
wa alaykumussalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh
Selam from Bosnia!
The undisputed masters of Europe
@@Nawaf12377 who
Salam brother from Bangladesh
i like salami too, can you make me a kebab?
@@z3nithhh will you come to Bangladesh? Brother I can make kabab
Saalam from Bosnia! Bobby, in his video, send me to Your Chanel. Thank You for talking about my coutry! ❤
Proud to be bosnian 🇧🇦⚜️ proud to be muslim 💪☝️ Proud to be choosen by Allah to be in the midle of Europe and carrry shahadah !
سلام فلسطین، غزہ، کشمیری، انڑیا، یگور، روھنگیا، فلپائن بلکان، روسی، لاطینی امریکہ کے مسلمانوں کو آزادی نصیب فرمائے حضرت محمد صل اللہ علیہ والہ اصحاب وسلم کے صدقے میں
Aameen
This is the greatest evidence that the great Bosnian people were of a sound and unchanged nature. They were previously Muslims according to the law of the Prophet Jesus, and they became Muslims according to the law of the Prophet Muhammad, the Seal of the Prophets, a people worthy of respect.
😂😂😂 stop yapping your a yapper and a dumbbell
What a nonsense. They were Christians and big population still is
nah they were bogomil christians, not believing in the Trinity/3 gods
like the catholics/orthodox
and they prayed 5 Times a day
both of these things make u muslim
especially believing in 1 God like the bogomil ☝️
@@jovandjuric8340 cry little poor vlah cry more hahahah
@@senadneslan1563 why would I cry?
I am just commenting here.
Proud Christian here from Bosnia
Peace from Muslim
@@alfasultana9042he doesn’t fill the same way.
@@halidaticic6348 fill or feel, the q is now.
@@halidaticic6348we do bro we are all brothers🙏
Of course that is all brothers ❤
love bosnia from Bangladesh✨✨✨✨
Love all Muslim brothers and sisters from Sri Lanka ❤🇱🇰
Proud Bosnian Muslim here 👋. Europe wanted the get rid of us, but we proved to be too strong.
Salam from Philippines 🇵🇭
So glad that Bosnias history is finally getting attention from the outside world. May Allah bless you brother
One small correction dear friend. During the time of Bosnian kingdom (more then 700 years) official religion was NOT Bogomils. Bosnian "church" was Manichaeism system of belief. That religion was considered heresy by Chaotic and Orthodox church.
All Bosnian kings(dynasty) at that time were Manichaeism except the last king who accepted Chatolicisam and authority from the Pope.
...wrong, according to the official history, all Bosnians, including all Bosnian kings, were following Arius teaching which is "there is only One God"...and, he considered "Jesus to be just a prophet "...regarding Vatican, we don't care about them,... they considered everyone heretic who opposed them,...
...regarding "manichaean", it was never present in Bosnia,...it's just Vaticans propaganda,... if you believe in Vatican, ...I feel sorry for you,...and, I can just tell you,...WAKE UP,...
Bosnian church = Bogomilism. Originated in Bulgaria, spread to Rashka and manifestes on Bosnia. It´s not a big deal.
@@Stalker950-l3x nop, read Noel Malcom's book on Bosnian history, even though, he disagrees that Bosnia had it's own church and describes these differences as a hereticism that was later corrected, which is his pro catholic narrative bias, he completely disagrees that Bosnian chuurch had anything to do with Bogomilism aside from being descirbed as heretics by catholicas and orthodox.
@@Mr.Jasaw13 I know his book but I can’t rely on one journalist man’s book while other historians, especially balkan ones, disagree with him. Bogomilism appeared in Bulgaria in mid 12th century and spread to the west over Rashka to Bosnia. Serbs and Bulgarians already fought them before they even reached Bosnia.
Although the so called bosnian church has been a slightly different form of bogomilism it had it’s origins among the Bogomils of Bulgaria. Bosniaks just try make something unique out of it to support their own identity.
bobby from bobby’s perspective sent me to your channel - new subscriber here
One of the beautiful thing in Islam is the brotherhood. no matter where you came from or what language you speak, or you skin color. even if you were my enemy, but the moment you become a Muslim you become my brother. Bosnian, Indonesia, America... All does not matter cause what units us is Islam, submitting our self to the only true God that sent us prophet from Adam, Noah, Abraham, Mouses, Jesus, and Mohamed peace be upon all of them.
Alhumdulillah ❤️❤️❤️
Great info, thank you
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Love great people of Bosnia
MASHA ALLAH brother. Bosnian muslims are quite interesting. They started modern day crusades from bosnia as well in 1992 !
Alhamdulillah, the Muslims persevered then and now.
@@sippity-ft6siand will preserve any future ones insallah.
@@muamercormehic4843 Indeed! The future of Europe is Muslim, Bi-idnillah!
Allah bless you❤
@@sippity-ft6si Kurac ce te bit.. eto sta..
Super episode brother. Hello from a Bosnian! 🖐
Love Bosnian brothers from Somalia
wow you've got internet but not food and water, truly a blessing by alalah dude gg
@@z3nithhhwhere did you hear that bs Somali capital is the fastest growing city in Africa and has fastest internet in whole of Africa Somalis don’t have lack of food since they have largest livestock in whole of africa and asia somalis are flourishing in everywhere do your research properly
😂 that is comedy.
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@@z3nithhhthats when you speak out of hatred and ignorance. I am also Somalia and you cant believe the beauty of my house in which i live and 5G internet . I bet the main stream media told you , you are the only one who have good life. Brainwashed
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I have always been interested in knowing about Bosnia, about our Bosnian brothers and sisters and the history of Islam in Bosnia. Thank you for making this video. Love and prayers for our Bosnian brothers and sisters from Pakistan.
Great video. I love Bosnia 🇧🇦❤️
May ALLAH reward you.
Coming from Bobby's perspective
New subscriber, here from Bobbys prospectives page. Great video allahumma barik
Omar, at age 70+ I learn the details of historical context of so many remote lands like Vietnam, Malaysia and now Bosnian Christian Monotheism, from you. Jazaak Allah.
Please make one on Albania aswell ❤️🇦🇱 Salam
Salam from Türkiye to our Ottoman bros.
Why don't you bring them to turkey then if you like them. Better to make a new Kurdistan in muslim part of bosnia. Lets swap
@@tablespoon116 haha you would regret 🤣
Proud to be Muslim
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Ah Bosnia! Everlasting bastion of freedom. Here are few extra facts:
- Bosnian bogumils - Bogu mili in translation from bosnian language, essentialy all other south slav languages, means "Those dear to God", they were a part of bosnian church and Bosnians had their own culture. There is a unique culture of burial grounds that you will find only on teritory ruled by this authentic bosnian religion. These toombstones are called "Stećak". If You've seen Dune 1, burial grounds, thats pretty much how it looks like, only even more authentic.
- Bosnians spoke their own language and had their own script called bosančica. One of the oldest written document, of all slav people, and when I say all I mean all from Russia to Poland, Belarus to Montenegro, is Povelja Kulina Bana, Charter of Ban Kulin. Rated in one of top 20 oldest documents in slavic history.
- Average Bosnian folk were literate, and quite poetic. This is something proven by the scribes written on almost every Stećak.
- Rome made 5 atempts of Crusades on Bosnian lands, and it ended by Ban Kulin resigning his Bosnian religion and accepting Pope as his spiritual leader, but in the background, bosnian church continiued to prosper. Additional 3 crusades were made by Hungarians, supported by Pope.
- Grudge of Rome against Bosnia was so strong, they deneid to send aid to Bosnian army against Otoman Empire. However, Otoman Empire took 75 Years to take over whole of Bosnian teritory.
- Bosnia was one of the richest Kingdoms in Europe, princeses of Bosnia would often mary Germans, Hungarians, Italians, Austrians, Bulgarian Bans and Dukes.
- Paralel to prosperity, Ottomans also brought suffering for Bosnian folk, often giving Serbian politicians authorites over Bosnian Lands, wich led to many uprisings.
- Bosnian people helped a lot of Jewish families that were prosicuted from Europe, century after century. One of the oldes Hagada is still in Sarajevo and you can visit it in the states museum.
- Rebelius nature of Bosnian folk gave us the start of first world war, when Gavrilo Princip shot dead Arch duke Franz Ferdinand.
uh, can you put a thousand year old history in few sentances? I gues a documentary sieries would not be enough. You've done a fair job I have to say, thank you for making this video.
Bosnians hold dear many traditions, we are proud people, stuborn, not that easily offended and always give our best to stand for the truth. War in 1990s was epiphony of opression against our land, our fathers barehandedly fought against fourth largest army in the world and won our freedom. Brothers in arms were all religions, some of the best generals were not even muslim, they were orthodox and catholics. Sadest part is that this war brought upon us ethnic cleansing, but we will presevier.
u'll disappear, rest assured. In between other lie u wrote: nazovi turad did so many great things, denying all those claims from all over this Planet to poor idiots which ran to Jugoslavia to butcher.
Adevarat ,dar multe monumente steci sînt ale valahilor balcanici,ultimul sat dispărut în razboiul civil distrus de mercenarii musulmani din Afganistan și Caucaz
Aferim kako ti to fino sroci na engleskom.❤
Много лажеш! Назив "богумили" је настао по бугарском пашчињеном попу Богумилу који је преузео идеологију из Византије од неких јерменских павликијана. Богумил је окупио своје следбенике у брдима који се зову Босна, налазе се данас у југоисточном делу Бугарске (погледај карту Бугарске). Босна је назив трачког порекла са непознатим значењем. Та заједница је протерана из Бугарске од византијске царске војске и распршила се по Македонији (центар на планини Бабуни) и Србији (центар Скопска Црна Гора и Проклетије). Пошто су придобили један део следбеника у Србији, српски жупан Стефан Немања Завидовић их протерује у Босну и Далмацију, одакле неки прелазе у Италију и називају се катари (чисти), и даље у Француску где се називају патарени, Бугари и касније албигенези. У Босни се окупља један део следбеника попа Богумила и по успомени на своју заједницу на планини Босна у Југоисточној Бугарској дају име "црква босанска". По имену своје цркве дали су име реци Босни и касније се читав крај назвао Босна. Босном се првобитно звало подручје од планине Игман до Врандука. То је била Босна. Касније су разни владари ширили територију на Усору и Соли, на Доње Краје, на Неретву, Подриње и тако даље... Босанчица није постојала као писмо. Био је то упрошћен облик ћирилице прилагођен трговачком послу за ког је ћирилица била сложена за употребу и њу су писали учени људи по манастирима и дворовима. Назив Босанчица је дао аустроугарски научник Чех Ћиро Трухелка да би оспорио српске аргументе да је Босна српска земља, а за рачун аустроугарске царске власти.
Your claims are not only false and unsupported by historical evidence, but they also seem to be influenced by a national bias, which compromises their credibility.
-First lie: Bogumil, also known as Theophylact Bogomil, was a 10th-century Bulgarian priest and the founder of the Bogomil heresy, a dualist religious sect. The Bogomils believed in the existence of two gods: a good god, who created the spiritual world, and an evil god, who created the material world. Their teachings opposed the established Orthodox Church and feudal authorities, advocating for a return to what they saw as the purity and simplicity of early Christianity.
The movement, although never large in numbers, spread throughout the Balkans and beyond, influencing various other heretical movements in medieval Europe. Despite some influence in the region, Bogomilism was never the official religion in Bosnia. Historical records, including those from Byzantine chroniclers like Euthymius Zigabenus and Western sources such as the papal bull of Pope John XXII in 1325, confirm that Bogomilism remained a minority belief and was often persecuted by both Orthodox and Catholic authorities. Additionally, the Bosnian Church, sometimes confused with Bogomilism, had distinct beliefs and practices, as evidenced by documents like the Charter of Ban Kulin from 1189.
Second lie - The term "Bosančica" is often misrepresented or misunderstood in historical discussions, leading to misconceptions about its origins and usage. The notion of "Bosančica" as a distinct and unique alphabet used solely in medieval Bosnia is a misleading interpretation of historical facts. The so-called "Bosančica" was not a separate alphabet but a regional variant of the Cyrillic script. This script was widespread among South Slavic peoples, including Serbs, Croats, and Bosnians, during the medieval period. Its use was influenced by the cultural and religious practices of the time, which were heavily intertwined across these regions. The people of medieval Bosnia were ethnically and culturally linked to the Serbs. Historical documents, such as those by Byzantine Emperor Constantine VII and the charters of Bosnian rulers like King Tvrtko I, illustrate the strong presence of Serbian people and influence in Bosnia. This close relationship meant that the Cyrillic script used in Bosnia was fundamentally the same as the Serbian Cyrillic alphabet. Documents from the medieval Bosnian state, including the charters of Ban Kulin and King Tvrtko I, were written in the Cyrillic script commonly used by Serbs. These texts do not support the idea of a unique "Bosančica" script but rather confirm the use of the standard Cyrillic alphabet of the time. The Bosnian Church, though distinct in some practices, shared many similarities with the Serbian Orthodox Church. The liturgical texts and religious manuscripts found in Bosnia were often written in Cyrillic, aligning with the Serbian tradition rather than representing a separate script. The term "Bosančica" itself is a relatively modern invention, not a medieval concept. It was created to emphasize regional variations within the Cyrillic script but has been inaccurately promoted as an entirely distinct alphabet. This has led to confusion and the propagation of myths about its uniqueness. The idea of "Bosančica" as a separate alphabet is a historical misrepresentation. The Cyrillic script used in medieval Bosnia was identical to the Serbian Cyrillic alphabet, reflecting the shared cultural and ethnic heritage of the South Slavic peoples in the region. Correcting this misconception is essential for an accurate understanding of the region's history and linguistic development.
Third lie - It is clear that the claim about the average Bosnians being literate is a blatant lie. In medieval Bosnia, literacy was predominantly confined to the clergy and nobility. The clergy and monks used Cyrillic and Latin scripts for religious and official purposes, while the nobility had education and could read and write for governance and diplomacy. However, most ordinary people were not literate and relied on oral traditions. The assertion that common people were generally literate contradicts historical evidence and is simply false.
Fourth lie - Your claim that there were crusades specifically initiated by the Roman Catholic Church or the Kingdom of Hungary targeting Bosnia is a blatant lie. Historical evidence shows that while the broader Crusading movements and regional conflicts did impact the Balkans, including Bosnia, there were no major crusades specifically launched from Rome or Hungary directly against Bosnia. Hungary's military actions in the region were part of broader political and military conflicts rather than formal crusades, and the Catholic Church's efforts in Bosnia were more about exerting religious influence than conducting dedicated crusades. Where did you get that number and why you falsify history?
Fifth lie - The claim of yours that there was significant animosity between Bosnia and Rome during the Ottoman conquests is false. While the Roman Catholic Church did seek to influence and support Christian states in the Balkans, its primary concern was preventing the expansion of the Ottoman Empire, which was viewed as a threat to Christian Europe. There was no notable grudge between Bosnia and Rome; rather, the Church's involvement was focused on broader diplomatic and religious efforts to resist Ottoman expansion rather than on direct conflict or significant tension with Bosnia....
More of your lies I'll write on another occasion. I have more historical evidence to support my claims than you do. To help you better understand this topic, especially since discussions about Bosnia are often influenced by bias, I suggest you review this evidence. This will provide a clearer, more accurate view of the subject.
Thank you for this important video about Bosnia and Bosnian Muslims. Selam from Bosnia ❤🇧🇦
Bosniaks and Albanians holding down the balkans ☪️
Albanian peoples religion is Albania. They don’t care too much about who is Christian who is Muslim. Albania comes first.
@@TrooperDan_262That’s why I have zero respect for them
@@Odoxon7522 Right bro. We love Bosnian more than communist Albenian
@@tanveer3384 thanks. I am Bosnian myself and I am sad that they are so atheist
@@tanveer3384 Where are you from?
Bosnia the heart of Europe with rich history and good people❤️
Thank you for the vid brother 👍💪🇧🇦🤲
Bosna nije Evropa od trenutka turskog osvajanja postala je kulturno i civilizacijski drugačija! Glupa priča jer i sada je granica EU sa BiH kao što je bilo u Otomansko doba
@@prcbukvu2293Bosna je EVROPA. Ona prava. Ne nasilna i cista. Sve je drugo djelo sejtana i njegove djece na na svinjetini odgojene i za zlom zadojene. Ratujemo mi svama od smrti Hrista naseg
@prcbukvu2293 cry,ruski serv😮
Wow this is interesting Subahaana'Allah. Jazak Allahu Khayran
May Allah bless and remove hardships of our Bosnian brothers and sisters. Salam from Pakistan🇵🇰
And Bosnia is blocked by mountains from Adriatic coast (Western Roman influence) and Pannonian Plain (Eastern Roman influence).
Bosnia is not a Muslim country but a country where some citizen are Muslims. Half of the country is Serbian Orthodoxy, some parts populated with Croatians Catholics and there are some Muslims too.
Dude Muslims are over 65% of Bosnia, the rest are just croatians and serbs
Croatia is not a Christian country. There are some Muslims who live in Croatia. Serbia is not a Christian country either. One third of Serbia is also Muslim (in Sanjak region)...
Bosnian serbs and people from herzegowina*
Yes it is muslim countrie coz more then 52 % are muslims so ,whose is the country of those who are the majority in it ;)
Fun fact, in the 19th century there were some Bosnians who migrated to Palestine (and from there to other lands), and they collectively named themselves Bushnak, and nowadays anyone with that family name, whether they live in the Hijaz or in Shaam (Levant), they're Bosnian descendants.
Another fun fact, in Turkey there is a place called Little Bosnia, which is a place made by Bosnian migrants in the 19th century, and to this day their descendants speak Bosnian (alongside Turkish), and the interesting thing is they speak a certain dialect of Bosnian (I forgot which one).
It would be nice if you could do videos about these topics as well.
Interesting, there is a town in Serbia called "Malo Bosna" that I passed by recently but I believe everyone is Orthodox there.
Do you mean 'yeni Bosna' neighbourhood in Istanbul?
@@Sa7biUK It's not Istanbul, it's in Turanköy
there is also some people with "Bushnak" surname in North African countries like Tunisia.
@@georgeghazaryan oh that's interesting, knowing they went as far as Africa
May Allah reward you for your efforts🤲
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Amin my Allah reward us all with jannah ♥️
😊Moja domovina, moja voljena Bosna i Hercegovina..🇧🇦 🇧🇦 🇧🇦 🇧🇦 Selam svima od ponosne Bosanke, nove y0utuberke.. Bujrum i na m0j kanaI... Bosna je svašta pretrpljela ali i dalje stoji, hrabro prkoseći onima koji su željeli da je unište. 🇧🇦 🇧🇦 😊
Ajde Hanuma, odmori
Assalamu Alaikum,
JazakAllahu Khayran for sharing your knowledge... 'Bobby sent me'😊❤
❤ from Muslim in Indonesia "And when those who disbelieve plot against thee, to wound thee fatally, or to kill thee or to drive thee forth; they plot, but Allah (also) plotteth; and Allah is the best of plotters. (QS 8:30) May Allah make easy for you to develop your Channel. Aamiin
My past ancestor's were Catholics who converted to Islam when the Ottomans came to Europe few centuries ago. I love every religon and i respekt anyone who believes in God.
Love to Muslims of Bosnia from Pakistan 🇵🇰💖🇧🇦
Salam bosnia brother
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Ja sam Bosanac i moja je vjera Islam i tako treba da ostane .
@@CocaColaZeroSugar-j2t ponovilo ti se ali u kuci i zavrsili svi kao oni jadnici 95 -te amin
@@bobimurbobimur3927 jadni, besomucni, ganocidasi...
Ti se tribaš vratiti na kršćanstvo, a ne što ti je praprapradedo prešao na islam radi lakšeg života pa tebe tokom generacija uvjerili da je islam prava stvar. Jedini je spas u Isusu Kristu!
MashaAllah may God protect your people from enemies which seek to annihilate you
Long live Europe and Bosnian muslims
Bosniaks the oldest and purest European DNA
Long live Europe and Bosnian christians.
@@Hrvoje876 Bosnian christian we call them croats
The Ottoman Turks introduced the "Devshirme" practice in Bosnia also known as child levy or blood tax. The taking of small Christian children from their families with the aim of converting them.
The tax was so small its not a big factor
@@kenanjusic7041 Taking your children is a small tax? What?
@@TheSouth-j7ftaking away children and converting them to another religion doesnt sound that bad as Serbs raping innocent childrend and women i'd say
@@mememeister959that happened only in your mind.
@@Greensanctuary-c4w my comment got deleted because truth hurts
The Ottomans used to go into villages in Macedonia and the like and round up all the prettiest girls. Your insights were great. I think this fact though not fun for most should be pointed out.
Bosne je bilo i biće! Neko je krv svoju lio da bi ja Bosanac bio! SLAVA BOSNI! ALLAHU AKBAR! ☪️☝️🇧🇦⚜️
I am reading one book that we got informed about Islam also bcs of trade. When Arabs conquered Sicily and were selling to nowadays Croatian part of Dalmatia. Very interesting and informative book, bcs it shows us that also Croats were the one of the first who embraced Islam as well.
There's a difference between fully embracing a religion and tolerating it for profit.
@@NUTella_enjoyer It's essential to recognize that history is complex and cannot be reduced to simplistic explanations. Dismissing the early Croats' conversion to Islam as mere economic opportunism overlooks the profound cultural exchanges that occur through trade. Many societies have adopted new religions through similar processes. For example, the Kingdom of Axum in Africa embraced Christianity largely due to interactions with Christian merchants. Croats encountering Islam might have found genuine spiritual and cultural value, not just profit. Reducing their experience to mere economic gain is both simplistic and disrespectful.
7th muslim brigade in the background goes hard.
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Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
Yeah, we are border country for thousands of years, between east and west, christianity and islam, catholics and orthodox. In my town we have catholic church, orthodox church, jew synagogue, and many moques. We hate noone, but we are awake for those who hate us. Selam from Zenica, Bosnia :)
Best explanation of our history on TH-cam which many of our Christian neighbours try to rewrite to fit their own narratives. Thank you and May Allah bring you a lot of Barakah🤲
Amazing explanation, thank you Omar so much for sharing knowledge.
umar has no brain, hence; no knowledge can come from deceased creature.
General Serbian point of view:
Modern Bosnian Muslims are Islamized Slavic Christians of Serbian origin*.
There were several types if Islamization:
By force, where you either become a Muslim, or you can get starved or get killed.
By interest, in order to keep the land you had and pay lower taxes. Used by nobles mostly.
By belief, where you truly believed in Islam.
There were many *Muslim families which still celebrated Christmas, Slava and Đurđevdan, but these traditions have Slavic paganism routes.
I wrote *Serbian as general term for central south Slavs (there is no general term), which to this day share the similar tradition, culture and language, which is very similar/same to Croatian and Montenegrin, but different from Slovenian or Bulgarian. There are Bulgarian Muslims which have nothing in common with Bosnian Muslims, and no Slovenian Muslims.
Yes, but listen to this. We like it, we accept it. We accept both Islam and Rakija and kolo. But we are Bosnians, with Orthodox, Catholic and Muslim faith. But for some reason, other people don't accept that.
It is interesting that Bosnians are the oldest nation in the Balkans and that they originally came from Bogumils who accepted Islam, while Croats and Serbs were serfs and tribes who tried to exterminate Bosnian Muslims in the 90s and who committed genocide in Srebrenica and central Bosnia. yet such a "small" nation defeated the Serbs and Croats, which shows how much stronger they are than other nations in the Balkans!
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Love these brave people. From Africa ❤❤❤
Love Bosnia from Pakistan.
Proud to be Bosnian, small but big heart nation :)
And brave 🇲🇷❤️🇧🇦
1. Laws that made life more simple is converted to Muslim
2. No taxes for Muslims
3. No need to go to army and die but a right to be on high level ranks
Btw, the whole schisma story is not correct, the Bogumil construct etc.
It is actually astonishing to hear the ammount of made up facts that once you start dig into primary sources understand why i say it.
@@morskisrle
Vojska za muslimane u Bosni je bila obaveza.
Hello from Bosnia ❤
I think that the Bosnian Bogomils, like Islam, have their roots in Zealot-Essene insurgent, ascetic Judaism, which disappeared with the fall of Jerusalem in 70 AD. The Bogumils saw in Islam a religion similar to their own.
Bogomils were actually dualists meaning that they believed that there are two gods, a good one and an evil one. They believed that the good god (the Father) created all spiritual things while the evil one (Satan) created all materialistic things. That is the reason why Bogomils rejected the cross because it was a material thing, they also did not build any churches or any other type of structures.
Very proud muslim from Bosnia.
Wow, I did not know that Bosnians were the last true Christians. Proud to be a Muslim, Salam from Texas.
Bosnian where never christians
@@rokiikor9270 In the name of Father , Son and Holy Spirit I Kulin Ban
Ma nevole oni istinu a napisana na povelji Kulina Bana - # najgore je lagat sebe .
Great and maybe best video about Bosniaks...New subscriber
Because today's ISLAM was originally a Non Trinitarian Eastern Christianity that was practiced outside the territory of the Roman empire. The fact that the the Patriarch of Jerusalem knew the time of pray for 'muslims' in 630s AD when the Arab conquered Jerusalem the first time, indicates that there was connection between the Eastern Christianity and the belief system of the Arab conquerors.
The premise of the existence of the religion of Islam is based on the narrative that says 'the prophet who lived in the 7th century started and spread the religion of Islam.' However, the problem is that there was no such concept as the religion of Islam in the 7th century. Religion was practiced but not conceptualized.
Religion is a modern concept. The word "religion" was introduced into the English language around 1200 AD. Initially, it referred to various ways of worship among Christian denominations. The meaning of the word has evolved over time.
Religion is a modern concept. No ancient language had a term or word that corresponded to the meaning of what modern people call 'religion.'
Religion is a modern concept. Neither Abraham, Moses, nor Jesus talked about religion. None of them started their own religions because the concept of religion didn't exist.
Religion is a modern concept. According to the Encyclopedia of the Qur'an, the Arabic word "din" (دين) was never translated into English as 'religion' before the 20th century.
Religion is a modern concept. The original meaning of the Arabic "din" is law, judgment, or way of life, similar to how the Hebrew "din" means law or judgment.
Religion is a modern concept. The original meaning of the word "Islam" is submission. In the 7th century, "Islam" simply meant submission, not the name or the brand of a religion, a modern concept.
Religion is a modern concept. The original meaning of the phrase "DIN (AL-)ISLAM” is not the religion of Islam but rather ‘submission as a way of life’. This is evident from the fact that the Arabic "din" was never translated into English as religion before the 20th century.
Thus, the famous Qur'anic phrase (3:19) "the religion (din) in the sight of Allah is Islam" is a modern interpretation and can be rephrased as "the way of life (din) that is acceptable to or that is from Allah is submission (Islam)." Hence, The Qur'an doesn't talk about the religion of Islam. This means the prophet who lived in the 7th century didn't know anything about the religion of Islam because the concept of religion didn't exist.
It means that what scholars have been saying for decades-that the Qur'an is a Christian text-is true because there was no concept of religion in the 7th century. What was "din" before it became a religion? What was Islam before it became the name or the brand of a religion? When did Islam (meaning submission) become the name of a religion, a modern concept?
If the religion of Islam didn't exist in the 7th century, who were the people called 'Muslims' in the Qur'an? "Muslims" simply means submitters (those who submit to God). The word 'Muslims' in the Qur'an has nothing to do with the religion of Islam.
If the religion of Islam didn't exist in the 7th century, who was the prophet who lived in the 7th century? The fact that the Qur'an confirms that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah suggests that the prophet must have been a non-Trinitarian Christian, and the author of the Qur'an must have been non-Trinitarian Christians (as proposed by scholars like Angelika Neuwirth in "The Qur'an as a Late Antique Text" or Christoph Luxenberg in "The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran").
Muslims do not understand what the Qur'an is trying to say because they have been separated from the sources (the Bible and the theological disputes in the Early Church) that many verses of the Qur'an refer to, such as the nature of Christ, the Theotokos, the Nicene Creed, etc.
For those who think that the Qur'an has nothing to do with the Bible and the theological disputes in the Early Church, such as the majority of Christians and modern Muslims, many esoteric verses in the Qur'an are misunderstood because they cannot grasp that these verses are actually discussing the theological disputes among Christians in the early Church.
Is Jesus divine in the Quran? And who or what is MHMD in the Quran?
#### Case 1
The Qur'an confirms that Jesus is divine (Jesus had two natures, human and divine) because it confirms the virgin birth of Jesus, a divine birth. The Qur'an renders the name of Jesus as "Isa," the Redeemer, a title used by Christians in Jordan before Islam as a divine title for Jesus.
The Qur'an confirms that Jesus is the "Rasulullah" (Messenger of God). The concept of "rasul" (messenger) in the Qur'an is similar to the concept of the messenger in the Old Testament. There are two types of messengers in the Old Testament: human messengers (prophets) and divine messengers (Malak Elohim, the Angel of the LORD, malakh = messenger = angel). In the Qur'an, the human messenger is called "rasul" (rasul = messenger = malakh). And what is the Quranic rasulullah?
The problem is that Muslims do not understand the difference between "rasul" and "Rasulullah." The only possible answer is that "Rasulullah" = the Malak Elohim = the Angel of the LORD.
Thus, the Qur'an confirms that Jesus was the Angel of the LORD who appeared several times in the Old Testament (some Chrisitans also believed that Jesus was the Angel of the Lord).
How about the MHMD?
Therefore, the Qur'an and the hadith are not talking about the same "Muhammad." The Qur'an is talking about a divine "Muhammad" (MHMD = the Praised One), not the person of Muhammad proposed in the hadith (the word "Muhammad" is mentioned only four times in the Qur'an, and one of those mentions, QS 33:40, rejects the Muhammad of the hadith).
The two-nature of Jesus in the Quran? Did the author of the Quran believe that Jesus was fully human?
#### Case 2
Muslims don't understand what the Qur'an is trying to say in some of its verses because they are esoteric. For example, the crucifixion verses (QS 4:157-158):
There are two Jesuses in these verses. The first Jesus was on the cross, while the second one was raised by Allah unto Himself. Muslims misunderstand these verses, and some say that Allah replaced Jesus with someone else, which is incorrect according to the Qur'an.
In these verses, the author of the Qur'an was trying to say that:
- The DIVINE Jesus was raised by Allah unto Himself.
If Jesus were not divine, how could He live for more than 2,000 years with Allah? Does Jesus eat with Allah?
- While the divine Jesus was raised by Allah, the HUMAN Jesus was still on the cross.
The difference between mainstream Christians, who believe that Jesus is fully human and fully divine, and the author of the Qur'an is that: the author of the Quran believed that the HUMAN Jesus was only an ILLUSION or APPARITION of His divine nature.
Thus, according to the author of the Qur'an, Jesus didn't actually suffer on the cross because the one on the cross was just an illusion or apparition of His divine nature (Docetism). These verses were intended to be recited to the Jewish audience of the Qur'an because some Jews couldn't accept Jesus as their Messiah, since the Old Testament says that a person hanging on a tree is cursed by God. Thus, this verse solved that problem.
That's simply not true. Since the people who converted to islam in the balkans were mostly orthodox christians. By the time when the Otomans invaded balkans, bogomilism was mostly gone from Bosnia and other parts of balkans. And bogomilism wasn't exclusive to Bosnia, it was common in all of the balkans. Actually it spread to Serbia and Bosnia from the first Bulgarian empire. Bogomilism doesn't have any connections or similarities with islam. There is no proof whatsoever that bogomils or any other gnostic/dualist sect prayed five times a day like muslims do. And the reason why todays most muslims from the balkans live in Bosnia is because they moved there from Serbia and parts of Austria Hungary ( mostly Slavonia and Dalmatia ) after the failed siege of Vienna by the Otoman empire and after the first Serb uprising in the 19th century.
This is pure Otoman pan islamic propaganda where you try to say that your ancestors converted to islam because their fate was correct even back then and the fate of others was incorrect even back then. People converted to islam because they wanted to keep or improve their social status under the Otoman rule not because the Otomans introduced them to the ''correct'' religion like you subtly try to say it here. You said it yourself.Those who didn't convert to islam were second grade citizens with no political and social rights. While I do agree with you that the Catholic church was much more brutal towards the members of other religions than the Otomans were.
Serbian fake history
The orthodox church was no better in how they treated the Bogomils, furthermore both east and western church were notorious for enslaving and selling pagans who probably did that to someone else and so on and so on but you not ready for that convo
A to sto ti pises je srpsko hrvatska propaganda al dzaba vam u vase lazi vise niko ne vjeruje pa ni ti sam kralja bosne nazivate srpskim il hrvatskim kraljem nemozete se dogovoriti a cijeli svijet zna da je bosanski zasto prisvajate tudju historiju kad je Bosna pala pod tursku hrvatske vec dugo nije bilo a srbija vec 100 godina turska bila bosna je imala svoju crkvu neovisna o rimu i carigradu bogumili su vidjeli turke kao spasitelje zbog krstaskih ratova koje rim pokreto sa ugarima zato su u Bosni islam najvise prigrlili i bosna i dalje opstaje i opstat ce od vas i vasih falsifikata historije i jos znas li sta je stecak na stecku pise bosnjanin i nista drugo ni kurvati ni servi
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Based on historical census data from both the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the Kingdom of Yugoslavia, it is evident that Muslims were never the overwhelming majority in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
According to the 1879 census under Austro-Hungarian rule:
- Muslims: 496,485 (38.7%)
- Orthodox Christians: 496,485 (42.9%)
- Catholics: 209,391 (18.1%)
- Others: 3,749 (0.3%)
According to the 1931 census in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia:
- Muslims (later known as Bosniaks): 718,079 (30.9%)
- Orthodox Christians (mainly Serbs): 1,028,139 (44.3%)
- Catholics (mainly Croats): 547,949 (23.6%)
- Others: 30,398 (1.3%)
These figures clearly demonstrate that Muslims were not the majority population in Bosnia and Herzegovina during these periods. Claims that Muslims were the overwhelming majority in Bosnia during the 1600s are historically inaccurate. The data from both the Austro-Hungarian era and the Kingdom of Yugoslavia refute such assertions, showcasing a diverse and balanced ethnic composition in the region over time.l
da je laz sto ti pises,je cinjenica da na prostoru Turske danas zivi oko 6 miliona Bosnjaka koji su dolaskom Austrougara odselili u Tursku,pa za vrijeme prve Juge ima i o tome je pisao Ivo Andric kako se pravio drzavni ugovor za preseljenje svih muslimana u Tursku,pa onda TIto i isto tako preseljavanje da je zaustavljeno krajem 60 godina zabog zapada jer se pocelo pricat o etnickom ciscenju
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The vlah thing that mirsad is using is taken so out of context is not even funny.... Most serbs do not have vlah heritage.. But simple are serbs anyway medivel bosnia was a serbian state and it realy does not matter if they were orthodox or not.... And medivel bosnia had a orthodox population... Especially on the border with Serbia. Most parts of bosnia were catholic.
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You missed one important fact half of Bosnia is Orthodox and Catholic because they didnt want to take Islam as their religion so you cant just say Bosnians are Muslim.... Fact
My Family during Ottoman Empire didn't want to convert to Islam ( Bosnian Christians where forced to convert to Islam) My ancestors had Christian tattoos all over their body and thanks to God we are proud Christian still and Bosnian
Half of Bosnia...because after Ottomans empire was defeated..most of Bosniaks had to flee..U were maybe 2-5 procent..Belgrade named white city because of 1000 white minaret was Muslim city
Zapisali su u Istanbulu davno da im je za jednog našeg trebalo najmanje 10otomana .. kazu veliki široki ljudi izlijecu iz brda .. zato su nam krali djecu i žene. I moje bake su bile tetovirane obe. Kad opet dodu treba ce im bar 50.
Kad ove njihove lazi čovjek gleda žao mu bude sto ih je nas narod spasio. Bilo bi mozda bolje da je bilo jos 5x8000...
But they dont call them Bosnians,Catolics call them Croats ,And Orthodox call them Serbs.Before Otomans Bosnia was ruled by Croats and Serbian kings ,even during Austria Hungary rule in Bosnia before WWI official langue was called Serbo-Croatian and it was illegal to call it Bosnian langue
@@dzonikg First of all there is no serbocro language..that invented and overwritten from Bosnian in 1840s..second BOSNIAN BOGUMILS who converted by Sword by Pope into christianity we call croats(italian side of balkan/ west roman empir..east roman empire(Bosnian Bogumils who converted to orthodox)Even after crusades REST of BOSNIAN BOGUMILS STAYED making it the first country in the world
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Amongs Bosnian heresy there are a lot of hidden stories of monotheism and Islam in Europe before Ottomans to cover like:
- Germanic Arians and Julian, Count of Ceuta who joined Umayyad conquest of Hispania
- Two Hungarian muslim groupation (western Böszörmény and eastern Khwarezmians) who lived and served during the rule of king Geza II
- Croatian Domald Kačić (Snačić) / Domald of Sidraga (1160 - 1243), son of prince Saracen (muslim?) who managed to briefly free Zadar from Venetian rule in 1204, which had previously been destroyed by the Crusaders in 1202. He fell out of favor with Andrija II Arpadović and Pope Honorius III (1221), who took his possessions (parts of Hum, Split, Šibenik and Zadar) and bring them to Grgur and Stjepan Šubić, due to alleged "piracy and heresy".