COMPARISON - The 1984 - 1987 Honda ATC 125M - The Rarest, Most Hard To Find Honda Three Wheeler?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Here we go again lining up all the model years of one of Hondas three wheelers models. This time it's the ATC125M. Made from 1984 up until Honda had to stop selling them in the US in 1987, these little three wheelers have become endeared to many as "their first three wheeler". Unique because they were Honda's first "kid size", electric start machine.
The 2nd gen 1986/1987 Model was even more advanced as it offered reverse; the only chain drive ATC to do so!
There's more info where that came from. Check this vide out and let me know what I missed! I'm sure I missed something!
#honda #comparison #rare
Trump would've been reelected if he would've legalized 3 wheelers.
I think the results were already predetermined... as they normally are...
Stolen election has Communist country consequences..Trump 2024
I just acquired a 1985 125m cleaned the carb changed oil and spark plug cracked right up front fender has a crease purchased new air filter and rear lens no trunk lid was wondering your opinion on what there worth more or less have some offers for 1,500 sound reasonable
$1500 on an 85 125M that has a cracked front fender, no trunk lid... and not know it's exact appearance... that's a pretty good price man.
How is it that I just learned about this channel??? Great vid buddy, thanks for putting in the time it takes to make these - Its an awesome resource for the rest of us.... and a far as I'm concerned, much more entertaining than wasting time on tic toc .... although I bet if you danced a little somewhere in your video your viewer numbers would likely skyrocket, just a thought ;)
Ha! That is a great question! I'm definitely not shy once I post them... I pimp the link out to about any group that applies, so I think it must be that you're spending too much time with your face not buried in your device. And that is probably a great thing. Anyway, thank you VERY much for the kind words man. That means a lot coming from you. I figured it would be neat to do comparisons and also document the life and times of a trike addicted middle aged guy going through possibly a mid life crisis. Whatever it is, I'm just having fun. And I will take your dance suggestion under consideration... That would be outside my comfort zone... but I'm kinda there anyways... so why not! Hope you're feeling better and hope to see you at Trike Fest!
Best
Lol
What seat would interchange with a 1st gen 125m 84 model any seats from other models?
And rear fenders are they 125 specific? Thanks
1983 - 1985 110 would work, as well as the 85 125M. Those fenders are all interchangeable too, but the 110 mud flaps say 110.
This old Trike, I have an 86, 125 m, in my garage, the front tire is spent, any advice on getting the seizes front wheel hub/bolt out?
I know a couple other guys who have fought that same battle. I'm not sure what they did to resolve it. Have you tried penetrating oil like PB Blaster and/or Kroil or something like that?
haa hard to find because them things got outlawed to ride they stopped making them went to the 4 wheeler instead ! 🤷♂️🤔👍
Yeah, not to mention they're 35+ years old. What I'm talking about here though is how common they are versus the other 3 wheeler models Honda made.
86 and 87 are way better built than the 84 and 85 !! I've seen a couple 85 model transmissions take a crap but the newer engines are so good!! I have 3 trx 125 's with the vertical cylinder and they all run great !
Yes sir! I didn't really mention how the 1st gen have a stamped frame and that the 2nd gen are tubular. I never even pulled the stinking fenders! One of these days I'll get better at these videos! Lol.
Yup. I had an 85 and my buddy has an 85, both had bad transmissions
@@hank1556 mine is the same....broken boss
I had a 74 90, a 78 90 and a 80 110 that I did a full build on the engine to 125cc. You had to ''roll your own'' back then. It got a bore, high comp piston, big mikuni and manifold, Uni filter, cam and a killer port and polish and it would light the tires! Then came the 250R in 82 and another in 85 along with a 84 200X.......I HATED Quads!
Man, those were the days back then! Love it! Any idea where they ended up??
@@ThisOldTrike 3 OF THEM ARE IN BAJA AT A BEACH HOUSE!
As always, great to learn about these old machines. Also nice that you have the visuals to show the differences as opposed to just talking about them. Thanks preston!
As always, thank you very much for watching! I know I'm not the most animated guy on TH-cam, so a lot of people may find my stuff boring. After I run out of boring content, maybe then I'll start blowing them up.
Preston, One fine detail for comparison since you have em all. I think the fenders on the 110’s had a dip/cutout on the side where the mud guards(?) start that the 125m did not have. It may also be a year model thing….I put 84 125m fenders on my 83 110 and ran across this difference when swapping the 125m mud guards over to 110 mud guards. I had to trim the little extra tab off the 110 guards to fit the 125m fenders. They also don’t seem to fit the corner contour 100% but very close. Like I said, some fine details I noticed when trying to interchange parts and pieces.
Well you almost made it I was about to congratulate you on not letting anything out.... but the keyed helmet holder lock was absent otherwise very good informative and I love the old commercials... hondas marketing department was on top until Coca-Cola put names on the soda bottles.... any who, don't tell anybody I don't want them knowing i have junk.. great video as always
Yup, not the first time I dropped the ball on that tid bit! Maybe I'll remember that for my 200S video!
@@ThisOldTrike ill send you some literature and accessories pics and streamline your overlay process
Need advice… i just got a 125M for my grandkids (the women arent happy lol) i was looking at the airbox and i dont see how it gets enough air with that sealed air box… i was thinking of drilling some air holes in the lid so it can breath… thoughts? Thanks in advance…
It's drawing air in from the frame. Does it sound like it's choking when it's running?
@@ThisOldTrike no sir… i need to look closer i could not see where it was able to draw air… thank you for the info!!
Is it possible on the first gens to swap over a 185 suspended front onto the 125? I’m thinking if it’s possible add racks and it’s like a mini early big red lol
I have the 1986 125m. Missing the trunk lid. Can’t find one anywhere. Can anyone tell me the dimensions to possibly have one 3D printed?
Awesome I have a 1985 with a front and back rack awesome machines for hunting
it is neat how the second gen 125s had reverse with chain drive. but Suzuki's alts did aswell
Looking at a running/driving 85' 125M for $1k.....should I?
I've been looking for a 200 or 250es here in the UK for a while, but stumbled upon a 125m locally for the right price
It's a non-runner and I have zero mechanical knowledge, but this will be my learning tool and introduction to how these things work, from what I've read and seen, these seem like a good intro to learn
The inside of my tank is slightly surface rusted, so I'm going to clean that and the carb out and see what happens!
For some reason the thumb throttle is also backwards, it moves lots if you pull it towards you, but not if you push it with your thumb - strange
The 4 down gearing caught me off-guard too. Took me a good half hour wondering why it wouldn't roll. Had to put a battery on it to figure it out when the light turned green haha
Your videos were big influence in me committing and grabbing one of these :)
That's awesome! I'm sure you can figure it out and the more you try the more you will learn. My buddy @mrc_builds has a terrific how to oriented channel and does a lot of will it run style videos. I'm sure that his videos would be a great resource.
@@ThisOldTrike oh awesome thanks for the suggestion, I'll definitely check that channel out!
I managed to completely clean the carb and have made a start on the tank
Just curious too, do aftermarket rear racks exist for the 125m or are any others interchangeable or compatible to fit the 125m?
Do you know of a hitch to pull a trailer with these? I have an 84 125m I’m looking for one. Thanks.
I have one in Brasil to restore! Where I ned more information about this???
I agree it is hard to find the 125m
Specifically the 87... extremely hard to come by.
how can I get in touch with you? I found something you may be interested in!
Do the 84 atc110 and 84 125m share the same transmission?
One of the best atvs ever built. I need to get my 84 spiffed up.
Yes sir!!
Sooooo. I should buy the very nice running one that needs rear fenders advertised locally here? I've passed by it for 2 weeks! Lol. Had no idea it was rare.
How bad are the fenders? Those fenders are literally EXTREMELY hard to find...
@@ThisOldTrike pretty big piece missing out of the right side. It's above runner though. Everything else is correct and in nice shape...
There’s a set of plastics on eBay. $8500. That’s not a joke, or a typo.
A good runner*
@@PHart3 seriously?? I haven't looked. Kids is asking $1500 CDN. Guess I better go look.
I have an '85 125m
Nice. Awesome machines!
Always been a fan of the 125M. Something about them...
I'm definitely fixing mine up this spring.
Good video as always! Your 90 non balloon tire video came in handy two weeks ago, got two 90's. One with a rebuilt engine! Had to break it in tonight. Runs like a champ. Hope you and your family are doing well.
Awesome man! Thank you for letting me know. I put all these out there hoping they'll be useful! Always great to hear the feedback saying they are!! Family is great and I hope yours is too!
I found a 86, I will look at it this weekend
Awesome! I hope it's a nice one for you!
I will send you pics@@ThisOldTrike
Wow, just found your channel. This is the first vid of yours I've seen, and enjoyed the information quite a bit. I've just started looking into 3 wheelers for something to play around with in the neighborhood. My needs are 4stroke, elec start, reverse and small in size as space in my garage is tight. I've found a couple 125s in my area but thinking a 200 might be a little more accommodating as I'm 6'2 and would probably look absolutely ridiculous on a 125. Thanks for putting out the content. Now to go watch more of your content.
Hey man! Thanks for finding me!! I'm glad you liked what you saw. Yeah, 6'2" on a 125M is probably a little small. Electric start 200cc is going to push you to a 200E, 200M, 200ES... but to get reverse you're only left with the 200ES. And at that point a 250SX isn't much bigger and will give you rear suspension. Anyway, lots of possibilities. Just watch a few more videos and you'll get everything figured out!
Another great video. Just a quick question. I have the 87 125 quad and the transmission is super low, and then 1-4. Are the 86 and 87 trikes the same?
Yes sir. Same motors. And thank you!!
Hmmmm, I'd of never guessed the 125M was that scarce of the ATCs.... Love watching these old ATCs.... Had a couple 84 200x's and 86 250r back in the 80s. Both daughters started on a 82 ATC 70...
Surprised to see they never threw the forks off the other similiar models with actual suspension travel on the later gens of the 125M...
The 87 is the rare one. The 86's are uncommon, but they're out there. The 84's are pretty common and there's many around. 85's, I believe, are a still common, but are less numerous than the 84's.
@@ThisOldTrike I always thought it weird on those 1st gen 125s they went with white and orange on decals. As far as I remember all the models were white and blue decals those years. Also weird they added a M.... Youd think it'd be 125 E, since the only big deal was electric start.
Cool videos, ATCs were a great part of my life and wish I kept em. 👍
I got an 87 I'm looking to restore it runs pretty good needs a carb.i need rear fenders because they are cracked up and I need a front fender.i was really hoping to find some fenders..great content by the way
Thanks man! I hate to break it to you, but those fenders are some of the hardest fenders to find... Stay diligent in looking. You may have to find a donor machine to find good fenders though.
I have one in storage(1985) that has been in storage. It has less than 25 hours on it and other than the tires still looks like new. Plan to try a sell as my boy is now near 50.
Nice! Where abouts are you located?
What do you think the value of your 85 is worth?
Hmm... $1,600 to $1,750 ish...
@ThisOldTrike thanks for the reply. Just bought one myself in very good condition. Got it for dirt cheap at an estate sale. Seams, I got a good deal.
Awesome!! Congratulations man!
@@ThisOldTrike thank you!
I must of been mistaken but I thought there was a lay down engine. Like a 110. 125 with reverse but no low high range?
@@rabbithomesteading3797 The lay down motor was the 84/85. Had high/low but no reverse. The 86/87 was an upright motor with reverse, no high/low.
@@ThisOldTrike I love the lay down engines us90 atc110. They would just go anywhere the 200s 185s would get stuck. I thought (and you just corrected my thinking) that there was a 125 with no high low but reverse with lay down engine I could swap out. I dont know why I thought that. Anyways love the lay down engines and really reverse not needed. lol TY for video and response!
@rabbithomesteading3797 The 85/86 TRX 125 was a lay down motor with reverse. Maybe you're thinking of that?
@@ThisOldTrike ohhh you may be right! TY!😀
you are right! My son just bought a few 110s and getting into them. It was first thing he drove at like 5 ish years old. I had so many us90 atc90 atc 110s then. Like over 20 years ago. He is kinda getting me back into it. I love those little guys! Anyways love the videos and thanks for creating them! Much appreciated!
All these comparison videos, yet… Still no love for the 200S. 🤦♂
The love is coming!!!
Where or who does the wheels for you? I can’t find the cloud silver metallic anywhere! I love these videos and learning the history on all the old trikes, I try so hard to get original or NOS parts for my two little 70s I have lol I hate putting aftermarket stuff on them
I have a local powder guy named Mike Wood who is my go-to guy. I believe he is using Cardinal powder "Silver Metallic" is the color. That's what those rims are.
I just found your channel... I absolutely love it... it’s takes me back to my childhood... me and my buddies all had trikes... I had a 1979 Tri-moto 125... 1st year they made it... my buddy had a 1982 110 w/the high/low I believe that was the 1st year for that option... and my other buddy had a 1983 or 1984 70 w/4speed... I know whatever year it was it was the 1st year it had the 4spd instead of 3spd... any way awesome channel... keep up the great work 👍👍👍
Man, I love everything you just said. I'm glad you found the channel and I'm ecstatic that you're enjoying the content. I'll keep going for you!!
Seeing your '84 125M just warms my heart. I'm so disappointed I didn't keep mine as a boy. I actually have a 1986, currently, that is in mint condition, and I'm very thankful to have come across it. However, I'd still like to acquire a 1984 125M someday. Thanks for your videos. Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays.
whats the difference from 84 to 86 ??
I just picked up a nice 84 yesterday, I dont know much about these machines
@@joelcr2501986 was a complete new design from bottom up. Updated engine with a vertical head as opposed to pre ‘86 where the head sits kinda horizontal, a full frame, as opposed to the engine being apart of the frame, an extra gear to make it a 5 spd transmission and the big part…REVERSE. Discontinued high-low though. Updated plastics, graphics and seat…incorporating blue into the color combo.
@@EDBZ28 oh wow, big changes, thanks.... Id hate to do without the hi/lo range... but having 5 speed and reverse sounds great !
@@joelcr250yes it surprised me when I learned it too. I hated not having reverse as a kid with my ‘84
I have a 1984 125 M for sale
Very informal.
I never here much or can find much info on the 200s maybe that could be an up coming video!
It's on the list!
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Love the videos but come on man three wheelers were never "banned". Maybe that was sarcasm and I missed it.It just gets to me. "Ain't those illegal" "When the government banned those" 🤦🏼♂️😑
My apologies. I meant to say the 10 year long consent decree that was championed in large part by Senator Al Gore.
@@ThisOldTrike 😂😂😂
Listen again. He said “band”
Are you with the band?
@@ThisOldTrike I need to get my fleet out and make a video soon. I gotta whole band of em.
Great little machines.. I remember a neighbor having one.. The electric start was a spoiler.. Lol.. 👍👍👍
#makeatcsgreatagain
They really are... I like to be cool and tough and kick start my stuff like a man... but sometimes I really would appreciate to be spoiled by an electric starter!
Do you have any quads from this generation. I had a 200 quad an I had the 4x4 one I think that one was a 300 or 350. killer collection. The classics are the best.
I have an 84 TRX 200 that I'll be featuring in an upcoming video. That was Honda's first fourwheeler. My dad had one new and it was what I grew up on. So it's kind of a sentimental thing for me with regard to that one. I had an 87 TRX 250 about 5 years ago. Nice machines. And I had 3 Blue TRX 350D's at one point... they're tanks.... but not nimble enough for me. I was made an offer I couldn't refuse and they all went to a new home in Alabama.
@@ThisOldTrike Dang if the price is right it's right lol. Gonna be looking out for that vid loved them bikes. I did like the reverse selector tho but when they brought it up the the handle bars that was convenient tho too. The 4x4 I had intended up putting a snorkel on it mudded it for awhile wish I knew what I had back then lol. Good times tho. We didn't have one but the neighbor down the road had one we had three wheelers. Then the four tracks line up cam out an was great too.
Great vid!! I have some parts for 1986 125m
Thank you!! And regarding the parts... anything sexy??
I think the '85 200ES Big Reds are the creme de la creme of the rarest Hondas. Or the '87 Kawasaki KLT185, T3 models. Suzuki made a 1 year only ALT185, I bet those are rare. I awesome collection. I had an '85 125M back in high-school in the late '00s. It was in excellent condition and I rode the hell out of it
Oh and I'm not sure, but Bruce borrowed an 87 tank I have for the decals.... sooo, your welcome
I pay you a much overdue thank you! Loan him your 1985 ATC 200ES decals so he can make me some repops!!
@@ThisOldTrike hahahah ill get right on that hahah
I have only driven an ATV quad 2 or 3 times and the last time I had done it was in 2012 when I was 15, so a little over 11 years ago. Finally 11years later, I got back into the game. My friend had just gotten his 125m running after SO many years of just sitting the woods in Maine. Maaan, they are FUN. I'm like 210-215lbs, 5'10 and it gets up and goes.
That's awesome!! If you're impressed with a 125M, wait until you try something with a little more power!! You're going to absolutely LOVE it!!
Mine has had the same scenario. Haven't had it run in 15+ years. Sat under tarps in bush here in Ontario, Canada. About to wrench on it with my 2 boys☺️👍🍻 cheers
@@SmugMrSmitty There ya go! Good luck! Hope she fires up!
Great vid Preston, really enjoyed the 125m’s
Thanks brother! I appreciate you watching, mate!
We have a 1984 Honda 200s and 125m that's all original where the second owners and really great shape they're great bikes even still has the original tires that's in good shape
1985 atc125m. My first off road machine I ever had. They were hard enough to find in good shape back in the late 80's early 90's let alone now. People just don't take care of things.
I have a pair of the 1985s, they were both bought brand new together. They have been together their whole lives and they are 2 vin numbers apart from one another! Starting to part them out as the years of sitting outside has taken its toll.
Man, I was really enjoying this comment until the end! Sorry to hear the elements have had their way with the 125M's! That stinks!
@@ThisOldTrike I know! Would they be worth more as a pair if they were restored and sold together given that they are basically sister trikes? As soon as I looked at the vins I instantly got super hesitant to part them out being that they were right next to each other during assembly and their whole lives. Just curious how that would maybe affect the value if at all.
I just bought an 86 yesterday. Real nice survivor. Low hour bike.
Great collection. Thanks for the breakdown
Thank you and thanks for watching!
Do you think that it would be possible to put a 125m motor and transmission into a 1984 atc110? I blew my 110 up and found a 125m on craigslist that i wanted to use as a parts bike and thought it would be cool to have electric start
An 84/85 125M motor should bolt up. The battery, if you're setting up the electric start, will be an issue because the exhaust for the M stays outside the frame to allow for the battery to sit inside the frame. The 110 exhaust goes out the center of the frame.
@@ThisOldTrike Thank you! I plan on making my own exhaust pipe anyways so that wont be a problem. So the transmission is the same size and will mount into my 110, along with the motor? I dont want to buy it an find out it doesnt fit. Haha
I believe so, but I've never done it!
First to point out 86 rear fenders on your 87
Imma get my heat gun out and erase that right now...
Also, The trunk decal on 87 is just a miniature tank decal. But other than that, great video!
Great video bro , and those viewing numbers just keep climbing , well done 👍👍
They are! Thank you for noticing! It's starting to get a little exciting!! I appreciate your continued support! Be on the lookout for a 1984 200E for me!!
@@ThisOldTrike sure thing bro
Just pick up an 84 125m today. 98% complete and sitting in a barn since the mid 90s. Excited to get it up and going.
Thanks for this video. I did most of my early learning on a 1984 125M. Unfortunately, I was around 20. It's the only one that I want that's smaller than a 185/200S just for sentimental reasons. Last fall, I got to buy a beat up one for $150. The rust free gas tank is worth that so I didn't get hurt. Now on to making it rideable again some day.
That's awesome!! Yeah, I'd say for $150, you did fantastic!!
Love the gulf sign and pumps
Thanks! I can't take credit for those. My father was a gas and oil nut and he was the one who tracked all that down. I'm just the care taker now.
A guy near me has 2 for sale he has only nice stuff
Nice. What years?
Pending already
86/87. I listwd a link but it seems to disapear
I think I may know the listing you're talking about. I think I saw it. In NY??
Arcade ny.
Great video! Really cool to hear the differences in the years.
Thank you!!! I appreciate that!
Is it really that hard to find an 86 rear fender? I found one that needs restored. But it needs a new tank, rear fender and seat repaired.
Great info. Thanks for the video!
You bet Tanner! Thanks for watching!
@11:52 love it! Great video Preston.
Ha! Should have checked my tire pressure before that! I was heading towards our island, but I was running out of kitchen anyway, so, it was going to end one way or another!
How much for your whole collection?
My whole collection of 125M's or my whole collection of Hondas?
I'm new to the channel I'm 40 so I remember all these from a kid and I've had a 200x and 86 250r in the past. I race dirtbikes but still love trikes and just grabbed a nice 84 200s with uncracked orm plastic I'm pumped about
Thanks for finding my channel man! Welcome! 200S's are very cool machines. It's interesting how they put electric start on the 125M, but didn't on the 200S. We're pretty close in age, so I bet we share a lot of the same memories. Do you still race dirtbikes??
@@ThisOldTrike sure do, I race a 2019 KTM 300xc in a local harescramble series (ct etc). Few months ago a good friend had a 86 trx200sx in his garage u acquired for free in good shape that fired up my love for 80s Honda 3 wheelers again so now I'm looking for those deals like yall are 😆
I grabbed my 200s with good oem plastic for 300 bucks from a father and son I became friends with at the races btw amd I'm happy with he deal
That was a hell of a deal!! Love the story too!
Thanks for sharing brother. I’m learning.
Hey preston I know you already did a 250 big red comparison but I think you should do another! Talk about the helmet holder placement, kill switch are different colour and swingarm are different, seat it would be nice if you made another video talking about that
Thank you man. I've got plans to do that. Because now I have the 85 200ES and the 88 250ES to add, so the plan is, when the 85 200ES is back together, I'll get that video put together and posted!!
@@ThisOldTrike Awesome keep up the good work
THERES NO SUCH THING AS AN 85 200ES OR AN 88 250ES
@@PHart3 Yes there is lmao have you been under a rock
Pj Hart is an instigator!
Do you know anyone who wants a Collection with 84,85,86?
Sure! You selling?
Yes the 86 has been work on in Vegas the same shop that Steve Abbott. Had his quads work on back in the 90s. If you have a link. I can send the history on them.
You can PM me on Facebook (Preston Frasier), DM me on Instagram (@this_old_trike) or text me 518-332-3040
I forgot about that one . Lol
It's my favorite.
Lol
Don’t forget about the helmet lock on second gen
YES! Totally forgot about that!
Amen I didn't scan comments before I wrote mine
I had a 1986 trx 250.. had a helmet lock, steering lock and removeable headlight with a 20ft cord.. 3 features I wish were standard on today's machines
@@GYPSY400 did the 85 trx 250 have the helmet lock? I'll have to look at mine
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FUCK YES!!! CONGRATS!!
@@ThisOldTrike yes very much, the soothing tones of TOT ease me back into my failure of a life